Deep Dives: Sweden: Multiculturalism in flames?

[@dunizetti]

The naivety of the Swedish society and Europeans, in general, is staggering.

[@Microbex]

The more you dig into Islamic culture you begin to see what it is all about. Islamists are not naive and innocent as they might look.

[@The.world.has.gone.crazy...]

European politicians.

[@erinloo8921]

Yes naive people everywhere

[@erinloo8921]

Japan puts all their rules up everywhere. They only give citizenship to people who can speak Japanese at an extremely high level. They just give temporary residency to workers from other countries.

[@noelogara1]

Sweden was an open house for all comers. No visas needed. That's why it filled up with scumbags.

[@larrydugan1441]

Sweden formerly was a high trust society. That has been lost and will never be back. Demographics will only make it worse.

[@terencefield3204]

And the same in England from the misery exhibited there it would serm

[@TheWhitehiker]

I fear you're right.

[@Beez-k7v]

That's why they targeted Sweden. And Minnesota.

[@Ramy-mt8ho]

Sweden is not high trust society but society based on myth based propaganda, yes population trust the myth and do as told by state without rational thinking, that does not apply to immigrants that is true and there is a push back. the problem is the state interests in contrast with multiculturalism as it is harder to impose myth based propaganda on diverse society, so from the start the attempt was to have multi skin colored society but not multicultural one by using soft power tools either by isolate them or erase what they are, not interact with them effect them and get effected by them because for a narcissist difference is scary. And that failed, what would not fail is accepting real word facts of divers thoughts and way of living and its harder and harder to impose homogeneous obedient society by playing on thier ego and challenges to stupid ideas would always happened in addition to many many narcissistic injury you would suffer to actually grow, learn to live with it or destroy the airplanes, shut down satellites, internet and live in your own happy narcissistic bubble in which you are happy with the myth that you are gods and goddesses.

[@terencefield3204]

@@Ramy-mt8ho Islam in Sweden has done this

[@nmeau]

As an expat Swede I agree with Goran 100%. Watching it from the outside helps - most Swedes are fully brainwashed by mainstream media, public service tv/radio etc. I used to mourn for Sweden but no more. Ultimately the population has voted for this outcome. For decades.

[@pereinarolsson3928]

In which country are people not brainwashed???

[@jackdeniston6150]

Stop listening to women. That will Solve. Everything.

[@tsopuaifa]

We are quite some few who do not listen to Public Service anymore. We are fed up with the lies.

[@andersdahlqvist2662]

Inget politiskt parti har hittills sagt 'Rösta på oss - under vår mandatperiod kommer vi att importera minst 500 000 människor från världens skithålsländer.'

[@elle1383]

Sadley, you are right. Every single authority has employees with hijab, even within the Swedish defense. You can see women in hijab under the military cap, it shows who and what matters in Sweden today.

[@AmitRay47]

I have been travelling to Sweden since 1980. After staying for 5 years, I left Sweden in 1992 to Switzerland, taking a lot of things from Sweden that enriched my life. I can speak reasonable Swedish, can read and write Swedish well. The first thing I noticed in Sweden was placards by the side of the main roads saying, "TA HÄNSYN TILL ALLA" (Consider everybody) and it says a lot about a country. During my stay in Sweden, I met a lot of people from different sections of society. I also met people who didn't want immigrants in Sweden. As far as my life is concerned, it was enriched by the Swedish values, and I am now 77 years old and still happy that I had an opportunity to know Sweden. What the Jordanian couple said to Göran is very true. Also the muslim part of the immigrants in Malmö in the discussions. I don't know any Muslim country that can understand Western culture. I have spent 12 years travelling from Iran, Turkiye, to Yemen, including Egypt, Sudan, and Kenya. I came to learn the hypocrisy that exists in the muslim world. Till July 1992, Sweden was still in a good state. I am now sorry to see the condition there caused by the muslim immigrants. Not only Sweden, but many Western countries, have exceeded the limits of democracy and humanism and pthe governments have made wrong policy decisions.

[@DonaldDuck-n3w]

thank u for sharing, i find it intresting reading stories about peoples experiences in comments 🙏🏻

[@owendavis249]

Amen

[@johnryman-f3c]

What are you really saying?? Last time in Sweden. walked out of my hotel and was held up at knife point by two Africans..The police said that "I" could go to a police station and make a " written statement".

[@DonaldDuck-n3w]

@@johnryman-f3c he said sweden was good up until 1992

[@Joakim-j7h]

The Sweden that you know and learned to Love doesent exist anymore.

[@marionreynolds7080]

Multiculturalism creates a low trust society - Robert Putnam

[@nasseringles6553]

This is why countries in Africa doest work.Majorities country in african have 30 to 100 diferente etnic groups that dont trust each others

[@KillingItForYears]

Because different cultures have different ethical values 👍

[@PeterRyan-nr9fx]

Depends on the types involved...

[@Joakim-j7h]

@@PeterRyan-nr9fx Nope, it doesnt. And High Trust soceities have other issues, still doesnt make life any better in a Low trust soceity than in a High trust soceity. Multi cultarlism is only possible to certain extent under a strong rule of law, much stronger than any Democrasy can provide! You want absolute Mutliculturalism that works then youd better be prepared advocate for dictatorship as well. Human history has proved that.

[@kevsimmo11]

Unfortunately Sweden has had their values used against them

[@Anton-wv9nt]

With the birth rate of 1.4-1.6 per a woman, you have no choice. In Finland, we tried to avoid a mass migration, but now we are desperate to find young nurses from abroad and most of them come from Afrika and India together with their families.

[@Dionelodanote]

fortune has nothing to do with this. Wrong values have!

[@thebestlayahead7331]

That is what Islam does everywhere especially in America. Islam exploits our laws to the fullest to achieve their end goal.

[@thebestlayahead7331]

I agree, Multiculturalism does not work. I also agree that we need to "Save Sweden".

[@tabletalk33]

Pathological Altruism: A concept popularized by a recent book that demonstrates a maladaptive tendency in certain people to help others at the cost of harming themselves. For instance, one might sacrifice his own inclusive fitness to redirect resources to strangers (who are not kin or co-ethnics); e.g. foreign aid, or celebrities and religious fundamentalists adopting babies from around the globe at the expense of their own genetic continuity.

[@KatySei]

Islamic immigrants are same in all countries.Thats is why other islamic countries won't have them.

[@modestmouse2889]

I will NEVER bow to Islam. MOTTO OF NEW HAMPSHIRE.

[@सामान्यजन123]

Here the interviewer is proposing an argument that as there is no plan for integration these people become desperate economically and they turn to crime. This is a flawed argument because Muslim societies instill a binary of Muslim vs Kaffir and Dhimmis right from childhood. A muslim criminal thinks himself/ herself morally superior than his victim if the victim is a non muslim. It is not a crime in his second layer conscious consciousness to cheat, kill, rob, rape a non muslim , because the latter is a different species altogether which his / her religion permits to be used or slaughtered. There is zero sense of gratitude in the long run among such madarsa taught students for non islamic countries or their non islamic population,.

[@Nichole-wd5ce]

those immigrants were brought to you by jewish politicians and interest groups.

[@DIABOLICAL-6]

Failed cultures fail functioning societies. 🗑️ In 🗑️ out.

[@trevordaviesable]

You are totally wrong so any decision that you make will be incorrect.

[@LucienCanon]

Honestly, I'm tired of hearing people complain about being attacked or labelled for speaking about matters of immigration/race/demographics. This is why we are getting nowehere; constantly obsessing over how we are perceived by people who don't like us and who we don't like either.

[@markwild2398]

So correct. "Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far." Theodore Roosevelt

[@TTFN55]

@@markwild2398 - You won't go far wrong following the lead of TR!

[@lisettem1009]

@@TTFN55 That's what Republicans did and they played along to get along, and turn the other check love your enemy and let them run amok. Dirt=clean and slavery=freedom.

[@michaels4255]

And what about people in an earlier generation who were attacked or labelled for dissenting from equal rights for women or other groups, or for other matters dear to the hearts of egalitarians? Once a society starts suppressing dissidents rather than debating them on the merits of the question in public forums, it is probably unavoidable that other questions will be dealt with in the same heavy handed manner.

[@cine9nine]

Racist! Sexist! Communist! Capitalist! Counter-revolutionary! Unbeliever! Heretic! Witch! It is all the same.

[@TPT6148]

Name one country where multiculturalism has succeeded!

[@timcase3271]

Neverland

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

Objectively, America. The problem is Sweden isn't America, and the problem is just letting swarms of random people flood your country without any integration is not how American Immigration worked up until the last few years.

[@jaykay415]

America's identity is pluralistic, unlike Europe, where each country pretty much has a strong national monocultural identity. But we do have laws separating government from religion, and we haven't let in a super large group of Muslims like many countries in Europe.

[@Humanaut.]

@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat no, not america. There is no multiculturalism in america. It's called a MELTING POT - out of many ONE! Not out of many - many.

[@Humanaut.]

@@jaykay415 america is essentially neo-european. The black and hispanic subgroups both have their own problems and are expected to adapt to the dominant neo-european culture.

[@siblej1]

You go to other countries to experience the culture of that country. If I go to Sweden I want to experience Swedish culture, not Somalia or Afghanistan.

[@kenaltrell7623]

Common sense eh!

[@LindaSleczka-jh7mc]

The globalist plan can only succeed when we all lose our sovereignty.

[@flyingsnake3737]

This comment is utterly idiotic. Have you been to Sweden at all ? Tell me where is it that you ONLY see Afghani culture in Sweden or any other minority?

[@Starfish2145]

Me too!

[@omaomd]

You're looking at this purely from the naïve, shallow perspective of a holiday-maker; take into account the Swedish perspective. Right now, the islamic cultural domination you're insinuating is far from the American cultural influence you find there. Or for instance, would you be outraged to find Italian restaurants in Gothenburg? The problem isn't the concept of multiculturalism -- it consists in the cultures that are being imported.

[@timcase3271]

I am half Swedish (uk) and its scary. Both countries with their heads very far up their own arses. This man is spot on. The discussion does not start because offence is taken immediately and nothing further can happen. Unfortunately most of my swedish family is like this. My one cousin was a cop in Stockholm but he left them because of the gang chaos unfolding in the suburbs and he felt like staying alive for longer. HE knows.

[@beecat9951]

Many people only wake up to reality when it impacts them directly

[@typetwo]

I live in Malmo (after being a social worker in the UK before). When I was in the UK I dealt with all sorts of social problems that were migrant culture related including modern slavery and trafficking. After I moved to my girlfriend in Sweden, we described the 3 bombs that went off near our Malmo apartment (ie all within 500m of it) as 'being linked with the Arab gangs and migration', during a discussion with my sister-in-law. She called us 'racists'. This is the problem. Middle class virtue signallers prioritise their egos / politics over addressing reality. They would even destroy a family relationship to maintain their illusion.

[@RRR.MET27]

Britain needs lot's of muslim men migrants. Lots of

[@kingkrubb8880]

@@typetwo If you cant even admit that the bombin in Sweden is done my immigrant gangs then you are so beyond lost and brainwashed, youre a walking mindless drone, no independent thinking going on, AT ALL. Stay as far away from these people as possible, they are toxic as fuck and cant be saved.

[@tabletalk33]

Victims of......Universalism (& Liberal Creationism): Terms used to capture dominant zeitgeist in the Western World where most people seem to believe on blind faith that there are no meaningful differences between racial groups. This creed seems to be be based more in a (secular?) religious desire rather than in reality; Nick Land writes that this view is "entirely lacking in critical self-reflection, is asserted not as a credible social-scientific thesis, or even as a spontaneous popular aspiration, but rather as a religious creed...." Gregory Cochran and others have quipped that many people today seem to think that evolutionary differences between racial groups only occurred from the neck down.

[@dongewala]

Islam doesn't accept anyone else. No way.

[@trevordaviesable]

You are a lier because most Muslim countries accept refugees.

[@S_1962]

Islam does not accept the Muslims themselves.there is almost a civil war inside all Islamic countries.

[@gitanapalestina]

Please educate yourself and read more before writing about something you obviously lack real knowledge

[@S_1962]

@ The killing and taking women as a sex slaves started at the early days of Islam (The war between Ali bin abi talib and Moawiya) &the war between Yazzid and Alhusain. And this continued until now. Now there is a civil war inside tenths of Islamic states & another one started yesterday in north Syria.

[@dongewala]

@@S_1962 evil begets evil. The devil cult will not spare its following too. Like a serpent it will keep eating its own.

[@daniellamarche689]

Excessive diversity = division. We often hear " Diversity is our strength " when in truth Unity = strength.

[@DouglasJones-wg6xh]

Homogeneity*

[@mjh5437]

Diversity is Disastrous

[@Nichole-wd5ce]

and who is forcing diversity on only white countries? jews.

[@kenaltrell7623]

It's called Universities not Diversities for a reason.

[@JoniSacroug]

A house divided against itself cannot stand

[@OlegoHC]

Denmark realized this problem 25 years ago and was mocked by Sweden for changing course

[@Sancto58]

99% of all the invaders to Sweden have come VIA DENMARK (SWEDENS ARCH ENEMY) AND THE BRIDGE OVER ÖRESUND!!!

[@Tyrant369]

That’s a compliment btw. How’s Denmark’s immigration these days?

[@ninab.3725]

I’m Danish, living in Copenhagen. The vast majority of Danes supports a strict immigration policy and it works. The problem of Islamism is addressed and schools that promote extremism loose their state funding, and if the imam is foreign, he must leave. Gangs are reigned in. There’s real effort to combat Muslim threats to our Jewish citizens. Lots of foreigners come to Denmark for work and contribute, one fifth of the population in Copenhagen, we’re not a closed society. We also have groups of privileged magic thinkers that never come near having to deal with the effects of their viewpoints, some are politicians running the big cities which is a concern. But they are not supported by most parties in national government or the majority of people. There’s hope. But still Jewish schools must have police protection, my cousin lives near one of them, it’s been like that for decades.

[@davidhoang2527]

@@ninab.3725can you tell all of danish people Oversea pls come home. If you don’t like others. Pls accept that others don’t like you.

[@stephfoxwell4620]

Failed. And failed badly. What a ruddy disaster.

[@typetwo]

The Japanese knew. 100 years after Korean migration to Japan started they still live separately.

[@Nichole-wd5ce]

shouldn't have allowed jews to control your politicians...

[@DIABOLICAL-6]

​@@typetwoyet now they have allowed a steady flow of hundreds of thousands of immigrants. They have already had their first cancer incidents.

[@karo2090]

There is no such thing as multiculturalism! This term is logically contradictory! Culture is a set of laws and rules of a particular group so it cannot be that there are different rules in one group! We cannot in one society both eat dogs and claim that they are our best friends. We cannot in one society claim that marriages with 9 year old girls are normal and at the same time condemn them etc.

[@EllaGreenn]

It seems to be possible if you watch what Starmer is doing in the UK. It requires multiple tiers of citizens and rules. It reminds me of a toxic family, where blame and punishment are totally random and different for each child. Some are always forgiven for the most heinous behavior, others are harshly punished for just looking at a parent 'wrong'. Multiple sets of rules within 1 family or within 1 society is possible... But it's not healthy. Nobody develops their true potential, everybody is unhappy and hypervigilant. I agree with your comment, there's no such thing and working against that logic harms everybody involved.

[@tsopuaifa]

It seems like we can. Feminists defend Hamas and at the same time condemn male oppression against women.

[@parrotshootist3004]

The world is multicultural, that works for different groups and laws.

[@Humanaut.]

@@EllaGreenn thing is - islam rejects everything non-islamic. So the only way to "integrate" islam into any society is to let them have their own rules/laws/courts and create a parallel society - essentially annexing part of the country they are "fleeing" to. (invading)

[@Humanaut.]

@@parrotshootist3004 exactly - with borders between the countries (and cultures).

[@andymkay]

Swede here. The absolute head-in-the-sand wishful/magical thinking of Swedes the last several decades is astounding. The rhetoric has literally been (from "right wing" liberals, social democrat leftists a like) that when someone crosses the border or seeks asylum they are Swedish. I have personally lived several years in parts of Sweden where I could not spend a single day outdoors and only hear my own language. Always arabic or other foreign languages heard. A truly depressing experience. I have had neighbors that wouldn't engage in the most basic conversation in Swedish. They simply say some words in a foreign language to me. It is incredibly intrusive and offensive to have ones culture, language and people invaded like this.

[@tabletalk33]

Well said. Among other things, Sweden, like other WHITE COUNTRIES, must stop this: Chain migration: The endless and often-snowballing chains of foreign nationals who are allowed to immigrate because the law allows citizens and lawful permanent residents to bring in their extended, non-nuclear family members.

[@Александр-х2б1ц]

From Moscow. May be it sounds strange for Westerners, but here we start to have the same problem. Russia is not a welfare state, but it provides a good opportunity to earn money in low-skilled sectors, so we have a great influx of people from Tajikistan, Uzbekistan etc. Every day I see women in hijabs, every year their kids make bigger and bigger share of schoolchildren. Here this issue is aggravated by domestically muslim regions and stupid policy of the authority. Chechnya is a literally medieval state inside Russia where Russian legislation doesn’t work. And it’s chieftain has the exterritorial power when it comes to Chechens and position himself like a “defender of muslims and their rights”, promotes mosques construction in Moscow etc. Btw, Sweden is a beautiful country, I visited it with my wife and kids a few years ago and sincerely hope that all these issues with muslims will be solved.

[@dave_sic1365]

its funny that russia and putin are displayed as european ethnostate/saviour of the european peole from massmigration. i couldnt believe how quick russia is changing from an european orthodox country into an islamic ( islamist ) state.

[@antevenio8303]

Yours seem a bit different (face-wise) coming from a slightly different part of the world

[@yfk1989]

You were not complaining when they were part of the Soviets and stripped of their own culture and language and Russianized at the time. When they were under your full control, everything shone like a bright diamond. France complains about African migrants just like you, but everything was ok when she colonized and sucked those people’s countries before. Don’t forget: You harvest what you sow. Obviously, everything is about merit for you guys. And you just lost this and now crying over the spilt milk. Sorry but this is hypocrisy at its finest.

[@tsopuaifa]

So true. In Malmö 37% of the population is born abroad and it is like coming to another country going there, and I don't mean just the suburbs. I see hijab everywhere and also burqa/niqab which I find an insult to Swedish equality. I have women friends who cannot go shopping clothes at Triangeln shopping mall in the center of Malmö because all the clothes are for muslim women. I also have heard for years from women friends in Malmö who have been spit at by muslim men bacause they are behaving in a none muslim way. I believe the integration in Malmö is soon to be Swedish people being integrating into muslim values. It is never the majority that integrates. I tell my friends that i think there are too many arabs/muslims in Malmö and they ask me if I've become a racist? That is the end of the discussion. I went to the north of Sweden this summer and came to Strömsund where I saw some muslim women hanging about outside a local foreign supermarket and I also saw a salafist walking down the road with his red beard and too short trousers. That was weird and I didn't expect that up there. I wonder how he copes wit ramadan in june/july? Or in december/january for that matter. I will present 4 reasons why Islam does not apply for Sweden. 1. We don't mix religion with politics. That is the norm in Islam and we simply do not do that in Sweden. 2. As long as I don't see men wear hijab or burqa it is a symbol of female oppression. Women are emancipated in Sweden. 3. Ramadan is a joke in the northern hemisphere, in June/July as well as in December/January. 4. We do not have religious calls waking us up at 5 am screaming in a foreign language that God is great. We have church bells ringing on Sundays at 11 am calling for mass.

[@AbuHamza-k7v]

Swedes once were vikings now they are slaving

[@maddie1446-c6w]

@@tsopuaifa Islam hör inte hemma I Skandinavien. Punkt

[@20chocsaday]

The Muslim widow who came from Pakistan at least 40 years ago celebrates Ramadan. But she also says there are exceptions and her age and fitness is one of them. But she also celebrates Christmas and Easter.

[@PaulieWalnuts-k5w]

To your last point: this is already happening in Germany. More and more working class kids and non-muslim immigrants are converting to islam, simply because 80-90 % of their friends are muslim. When kids grow up in this milieu, they are just constantly being confronted with how immoral and soulless western culture allegedly is. They also see how muslims stick together and just naturally want to become a part of the dominating group. Since 2015, we are also seeing more cases of kids being pushed towards the faith more aggressively, simply because certain areas turned majority muslim. Especially muslim kids from moderate families are being guilt-shamed into practicing a more orthodox version of islam. German parents, who can afford it, don't even send their kids to those schools anymore, which shows the class component of the whole issue.

[@michaels4255]

Have you and your friends been voting for anti - immigration parties for the last forty years? If the answer is no, then you all have no moral right to complain about the perfectly predictable consequences of what you were voting for. In all western societies, there seem to be too many people who want contradictory things.

[@qwertyx333]

From London, thank you for an excellent conversation - one of the most precise and sane takes on the matter. Europe has been in a slow crisis for a long time, and growing up in the 90s, Europe and England are nothing like the world I thought and hoped to be living in. I’m sad for us all, but also reassured that so so many people see what I see and feel how I feel. Brothers and sisters, we walk together.

[@SAW777777]

You have to act! Not walk!

[@MarkoRipChamp]

Same in Italy !! Leftist always in immigrants criminals defense , cities like Rome-Milan-Venice.. are full of beggars - pickpockets - violent gangs..New generation a big problem , this is a accurate plan.

[@alexandervanlohen4229]

From Germany - I agree.

[@dvosburg1966]

It fails everywhere. However certain political parties and their fellow travelers refuse to admit it or really allow anything to be done. The amount of effort that is going to be required to clean their crap up is going to be enormous.

[@maryrose4712]

To fix the problem you first have to admit there is a problem, pretending that it does not exist will only make matters worse. The Immigrants can see what is going on and they take Swedes for fools.

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

It works in America when it's done correctly. Some of the most ardent defenders of American traditional values are genuinely first generation immigrants. Elon Musk is a first generation American Immigrant. Fareed Zakaria, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, even Andrew Carnegie was an immigrant. But you have to integrate people. You have to vet for people who ACTUALLY WANT TO BE AMERICANS. Not people who want America to be Syria.

[@polybian_bicycle]

​@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat That's not actually multiculturalism, but assimilation into americanism.

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

@@polybian_bicycle Fair enough if that's how you want to define it.

[@getlost3346]

America had influx of immigrants from 1880 to 1920 Only. Prior to that, immigrants were from Northern Europe. Southern Europeans went to South America. The borders were closed after 1920. The best decades for the USA were when no immigrants entered the USA..1920-1970. Only more recent 1995-2005 did you start seeing unfettered immigration just like in UK and US thanks to Blair and Clinton. Cities have turned into slums, free handouts, crime has skyrocket. There is no benefit in immigrantion from what I see. I myself am an immigrant 1970. The differences are sharp over time. The West has destroyed itself.

[@bradnelson4778]

You come to my country, you live my ways, do not reject your own heritage, but embrace what my country provides. If you don’t like it, leave. Simple.

[@markhamburger5587]

Same coming in Germany. --- being boring and all the same might have advantages over having to defend yourself in a civil war.

[@DouglasJones-wg6xh]

Dude the idea that immigration to Europe makes Europeans “more interesting” pisses me off so incredibly bad please don’t fucking say it again

[@JackDavidsen]

Letting Extremist Islamists take over your country will not lead to peace. Please do more research before you decide to do this because fact largely suggests that you are likely to never see peace again if you do.

[@kylebeaton5604]

Civil war doesn't happen they infiltrate the institutions and you just lose your voting power.

[@elioxman8496]

In this stupid and totally dishonest game of words, what's wrong to answer: "Yes, I am a racist and love my own national language and culture the most." Would the heavens fall down? Swedes , please be brave for your own sake, after all you are such a tiny and unique nation.

[@typetwo]

You would think they would manage 'I am anti-racist and I am aware it is part of my culture I don't want to be diluted by diversity'. (Because of course the Swedes and British are the least prejudiced in polling.)

[@rarebird_82]

Because proud nationalist does not equal racist. Its a redundant word used to shut down sane debate, it's so overused it no longer holds any weight.

[@derekwagstaff3044]

@@rarebird_82 🎯

[@JackDavidsen]

They spoke about things the way they could under the circumstances, and that is not bad, it's a beginning. That said, more change better begin soon and happen fast because we're running out of time, guys... Not only in Sweden, but everywhere! (And if Putin and Xi Ji-Ping think they can control what's going on, they're in for an unpleasant awakening. I really hope they will wake up too.)

[@robban61]

Swedes and those who were grown up in Sweden are basically cowards. They do not dare to argue and say what They really thinks. They love identify themselves to a certain group of people and stay in the do called Confort zone.

[@martinlitorell3834]

Today i heard a politican stepped down because of being threatend by criminal gangs. Swedish people, grow up! You need to take the actions needed independently of what we did before.

[@gdavis2020]

Swedish people don’t beed to grow up, they new to grow a pair!!

[@e.t.1088]

Swedens are soyboys, imagine if the residents voted for a "Sweden First" minded, alpha male president.

[@AnotherMartinez]

I remember 8 years ago meeting my Swedish colleague in Copenhagen- one of the most beautiful character I’ve come across in the World…learning about Sweden through her, made me dream of living there … Once Merkel open the gates to the millions of Islamic men … everything has changed … the Swedish refusal to expel the bad apples from those and other countries is ruining this beautiful land

[@contentsdiffer5958]

Dude. Sweden was putting out the same welcomes as Merkel at the exact same time.

[@davidhoang2527]

Nothing is ruined. Only thing ruined is your distorted ideology of how Sweden is. FFS you generalize the whole Swedish society from one girl’s perspective ,

[@russelleads2145]

This guy is absolutely right. Just because you wish to maintain your society, your traditions, your heritage doesn't make one a bad person, or a racist!!

[@dallasweaver4061]

In the US we get immigrants from different cultures such as all the boat people from Vietnam. They came from a hard work culture with good fundamental ethics and fit in very well with diversity that benefited all. In the first few years when they started to drive in California, we had a term DWO (driving while oriental) which noted very low-quality driving skills, but they adapted to our side of the road and driving. However, their stress on education upgraded our school systems as actually learning something in school became the norm. Our children had real competition. All their children learned English at a high rate as we saw young children effectively working as translators for their grandparents. Now they have become a high educated and skilled minority with great additions to our society beyond the excellent food. Our latino, Indian, Chinese, etc. immigrants are also hard work with strong family cultural values that are net additions to our regions. This is the desired diversity and has helped make California one of the sources of innovation in the world. However, immigrants from cultures that are intolerant of "others" can't help enrich the society and can destroy a society. The behavior of Islamic immigrants around the world appears problematic as their culture views non-belivers as "them". Several cultures with predatory and parasitic beliefs that "others" don't count are toxic to the society and make "diversity" appears as an insane objective. You just have to be selective about "cultural compatibility" when creating diversity, and the liberal/Woke beliefs that all cultures are equal is nonsense.

[@ellenharold5191]

I agree. I00 %. I am thrilled with the immigrants in my diverse neighborhood, i think the hijabs are lovely. I love that the stores are open at night. There are families with well cared for and watched over children. The people are friendly pleasant and courteous. Unlike the fearful and bigoted often drunk en Northern Europeans (some Scandinavian) - that were here previously.

[@michaels4255]

Even our Islamic immigrants in the US are ON AVERAGE very good. Either the racial background or social class of your immigrants can make a HUGE difference. (Having said that, you are viewing our Latino immigrants through rose colored glasses; they are very much a mixed bag, and also the second generation seems to have less desirable behavior than the first gen acc. to stats I have seen, and ALL immigrant groups mostly want higher taxes to pay for more govt. services, whereas the long established white population, esp. those like me who are of colonial descent, prefer the opposite. They are NOT assimilating on this core political value!) Also, groups that try to avoid assimilation and are intolerant of outsiders can be, and sometimes are, just as smart, hard working, and family oriented as anyone else, or even more so sometimes. That does not change the fact that we are changing our society in profound and irreversible ways. Furthermore, the younger generation of white Americans is experiencing an identity crisis as their identity and heritage are deliberately downgraded and shunned so that the newcomers can feel more welcome. This is morally wrong. People increasingly feel there is nothing more to being an American than the legal fiction of government citizenship. This is not a recipe for either social harmony or political stability.

[@PoppinPsinceAD33]

@@michaels4255well our immigrants are largely Catholics also from Hispanic nations, and America is a culturally Christian nation so that helps ease tension.

[@dallasweaver4061]

@@michaels4255 Many of the Islamic immigrants in my area are very good, but they are the more secular people who got out of Iran back in 1979. The failure of our education system, run by the Teachers' Unions, has contributed to much of the second-generation Latino problem. If you can't read and write English or do math, you don't do well in our high-tech society.

[@michaels4255]

​@@dallasweaver4061 For Islam, I am only aware of the aggregated statistics, not how it may break down by ethnic group. However, I would be surprised if a majority of our Muslim immigrant population was from pre revolutionary Iran. I think we are just getting the better educated (read: higher IQ) Muslims in general. ​As for the Latinos, although the numbers were not as big back then, the second generation problem already existed in the 1990s when PISA scores for US whites were neck and neck with Finland's (IOW, the highest in Europe, and Finland was also the only country in the world to spend as much per student as the US), AND our Latinos did better than the Latinos in any Latin American country, and our Asians did better than the Asians in any Asian country. Africa was not participating, but if it had there is no doubt that US blacks would have outscored blacks from any African country. Yet people were wringing their hands over how bad our schools were in the 1990s, but it was only a reflection of our changing racial composition. Adjusted for that, our schools were doing as well as anyone's. Now, has our school quality (as opposed to student quality, which is a different issue entirely) gotten dramatically worse during the last 24 years? While I won't rule it out, I haven't seen any objective evidence to support it. There are anecdotal stories, but there were plenty of those in the 1990s too when objectively the schools were doing as good a job as anywhere in the world - yet even then we already had a second generation Latino problem. If you look at Latin America, it is not a roaring success story, and never has been, in spite of conscious attempts to mimic US policies over the last 200 years. If you look at fifth generation Mexican Americans in New Mexico, they are still underperformers compared to the Anglo population. If you look at the Ellis Island immigrants who came over more than a century ago, although a rising tide of technology and the energy that fuels it has lifted all boats, the relative social position of the average immigrant lineage is the same as it was among their ancestors in Europe. There was no upsurge in class mobility. So basically, if you import the third world, you will become the third world. Nobody knows how to socially engineer either an ethnic group or a larger society out of mediocrity, and the quality of the schools reflects the quality of the students who enroll in them, not the other way around. This is the uncomfortable reality that few people want to face in the post - WW2 era. Most people, esp. in the West, still want to believe the Enlightenment intellectuals who taught us that all human beings are basically interchangeable parts and that therefore mankind is perfectible through education and other environmental interventions. The evidence just does not support it.

[@mickeyh1961]

Terrible it had to reach this stage before the public realised it was not such a good idea , I fear its too late unfortunately

[@brahand]

”The Public realised” Yes. But the polititians have not yet realised anything. 20-30% of one (1) out of the 8 parties in our parlament has realised. Thats it.

[@peterwulff469]

- it is much too late. It was too late already in the 1980s. The vast majority of Swedes still haven't figured it out, and they never will.

[@michaels4255]

Judging from the way voters cast their ballots, I would say that the public STILL has not realized it. At some point, a new generation will grow up feeling that the new multiculti order is the normal state of affairs, and the struggle will be over, like a patient who has resigned himself to his expiration.

[@mimszanadunstedt441]

What made the nordic countries wealthy was the privilege of not having to deal with 3rd world people at their borders. The heart was in the right place, but the brain was not.

[@mimszanadunstedt441]

Their heart should have extended to their neighbor countries instead.

[@johnl5316]

It has begun to have that effect in Finland, but there is still push back there

[@borderlord]

"Nations,they emerge for a reason" That is the forever quote to take away from this discussion!

[@d.marques4700]

"What could go wrong? Literally everything!!!"... (John O'Brien)

[@alexdavis1541]

Liberalism opened the gates to Sweden's problems. In essence this discussion defends liberalism.

[@lisettem1009]

It depends on the definition of Liberalism. In America Liberalism is communist, socialist, progressive....

[@rokasdobrovolskis]

It was Barbara Spectre & co

[@alexdavis1541]

@@lisettem1009 It doesn't matter that much. The point is, what they are complaining about is brought about by what they are praising

[@herrbonk3635]

@@alexdavis1541 So what's your alternative? In concrete terms.

[@alexdavis1541]

@@herrbonk3635 1. Reacceptance that the individual has obligations to his society, as well as rights to be drawn from it. The former being typically ignored, even rejected, by modern liberalism. 2. Devolution of the vast powers and functions that have been assumed by the managerial state (in which I include the less recognised aspects of it such as the "private" corporations, NGOs and extra national organisations). This would of course involve no quick-fix, and be no easy feat; since we have become as children in our dependency on these virtual parents. The alternative to working in these directions though is to accept our own destruction.

[@Alisha-hs8xj]

As an immigrant in Sweden from United States, I can say there is definitely a double standard regarding immigration. Because I’m white and from a Western country, then I don’t deserve to get any education here in society because I “know better.” I was told by the kommun when trying to learn Swedish via SFI course that “do you really need this? Can’t you get by in English?” So I am now basically the lowest class of migrant to them and effectively ignored, while expected to 100% assimilate into society or get out. It’s clear these policies are not working for anyone.

[@Dds123-l3z]

That is so stupid of them, we speak swedish in Sweden, ofcourse you should learn the language and especially of you asked them

[@franciscafigueiredo6533]

Same experience. I'm an immigrant from Southern Europe living in Sweden and the kommun politely told me that I wouldn't get a chance to enter a course because "it's for other kind of immigrants". If I was living on social benefits or unemployed maybe they could consider me as candidate. There's a double standard and I don't think that's even fair. If I was a parasite to society all doors would be open.

[@petermach8635]

Just ask the artists, musicians, writers, academics, intellectuals and mothers what their lives and the lives of their children would be like if the other team wins. Ordinary people can give them the answer but nobody wants to listen to the plebeians who have to live next to the outsiders.

[@michaels4255]

Who is really the ordinary person? Probably not the small minority that votes for anti immigration parties. The ordinary person tells himself that these are just the growing pains of the new Sweden, and that once the newcomers have been assimilated through the educational system and other influences, then they will be just like the indigenous Swedes. They will go to their graves believing this will eventually happen, but it never will. "Just give it more time, bro!" They always say this, but time never erases the differences. I would abandon my faith in the intuitive wisdom of most "ordinary people" if I were you. Even most of those who understand it still vote for immigration - friendly parties. I am sorry I cannot offer any hope in this regard. Our nations are finished in the West.

[@RecruiterAbbas]

I am Dutch🇳🇱 (from the Netherlands). Sweden is amazing, but it all starts with pride. Are you proud of your country, your cities, your culture, your values, your language, and your people? As a Swede, there are so many things to be incredibly proud of! Your openness, your welfare state, your tolerance, your companies, your way of life, your history, and everything that makes you unique. Show it, speak it, be proud! However, pride also needs to be protected. That, too, must be "safeguarded", and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. In fact, it’s fantastic! And don’t forget, pride is highly contagious! If you are proud of your country, you inspire others to feel the same. Yes, everything must be done to ensure that people can integrate well. This requires clarity, decisiveness, and strictness. However, if people are given the chance to become part of a proud nation, they will be willing to go to great lengths and genuinely strive to succeed (to integrate). Without visible and outspoken pride in who you are and what you represent, there is no incentive for outsiders to want to become a part of it. Swedes are amazing people. Swedes, don't be shy and be proud! 🇸🇪

[@mht5875]

@RecruiterAbbas Safeguarded is right and if Sweden needs any help in that area, I suggest they get in touch with their inner Viking for that. 'Nuff said.

[@thenorthstar311]

Goran is great. Save Sweden. Sweden is worth saving ❤

[@davidhoang2527]

Start with asking all swedish foreigners abroad to go back home pls . If you don’t like the world the world don’t need you. 😂. But wait. Even Swedish people left Sweden because the weather and tax just sucks. 😂

[@jxpat]

Excellent episode!

[@marieparker3822]

What this Swedish sociologist describes in Sweden is EXACTLY the same as in Britain.😖

[@S.Morgenstern]

Britain is different because of its colonial past imo 🥴

[@carolinekofahl8867]

If only the Swedish people liked their past 😊 I recently worked with a Swedish guy and one day at lunch somebody mentioned the Vikings. One thing was that he didn't know that Swedish Vikings sailed to now Russia and founded what are now cities - another thing was that he seemed embarrassed that (technically) his ancestors did such things. They were not just tradesmen running around - they created something very lasting of huge value - and he seemed embarrassed. Weird 🙃🤭

[@dohdoh2430]

Years of self hating indoctrination does that. Its really sad.

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

To be fair, when they founded cities like Kiev, they were trading posts for **human cargo**, Slavs who the Vikings kidnapped in their raids and would sail down the Dnieper into the Black Sea to sell the Slavs to the Ottomans.

[@20chocsaday]

Just a way out possibility, he knows what really happened and we don't.

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

I just replied explaining for you some of the history of what the Vikings were actually doing while founding cities like Kiev and the reply was removed. Google doesn't want us talking about real history.

[@davidotness6199]

@@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat I'm lucky if any comment of mine gets published on this platform anymore. It's become a joke! And a travesty to speak your mind honestly.

[@ImrightImright-y2v]

Same in the Netherlands vote far right don't compromise

[@lisettem1009]

It is not about voting far right, it is about using common sense, and ending the 'minority group' tyranny, intellectual dishonesty and hypocrisy. Multiculturalism is apartheid and it is the modus operandi to maintain and underclass in society. When Pim Fortuyn challenged the agenda he was labeled, racist, Nazi and Hitler.

[@jennymisteqq5399]

This was a great interview, but the guest is far too forgiving of migrants and all the crime and problems they cause.

[@TTFN55]

I've been following Geert Wilders for about a year now. It would seem he has made an accurate assessment of the situation and is taking steps to remedy the immigrant overload to restore the Netherlands. Is this correct?

[@ImrightImright-y2v]

@TTFN55 he is working with a collation government with 2 partys who are cucks so I and a lot of guys are gonna switch votes to the FvD and hopefully we will have a Nexit

[@Sancto58]

Yes do that if you are a traitor.

[@pattisonpattison3639]

It’s not just Sweden.

[@istvantoth7431]

It's essentially failing in most Western European countries really, not just in Sweden. At scale. Of course certain professions with migrants with certain knowledge/qualifications are good and working, but 'en masse', it's a disaster. Yet, certain people in power will do everything to mute this issue. The correct and appropriate question to ask is: Why?

[@theodorearaujo971]

Cults are irrational.

[@fjashfcsahds]

Yes absolutely.

[@opqrst7]

I live in a European country with a work permit. I am aware of the fact, if policies change I might lose it. Nevertheless, I still agree on the failure of the multiculturalism and the woke ideology. It's time we stepped back with what we have learned and reckoned to find a new solution-but this time without delusional ideas, totalitarian sanctions, and harming ourselves (especially children). Sometimes things look nice on a piece of paper, but in practicality they simply do not work. No need to force a cube to fit into a circular whole.

[@talloolahmoon]

Look at the mess that South Africa is now

[@editfazekas3854]

What do you mean? Pls, elaborate.

[@talloolahmoon]

@ plenty information available

[@JeanetteWentzel]

There is meant to be a moderate view to manage multiculturalism not this extreme left or extreme right and you have to make it work for everyone’s benefit without sacrificing a country’s values. Sweden like all countries is dealing with economic challenges with or without migrants and crimes like domestic violence existed before migrants arrived perhaps mainly among poor Swedes or those with social problems. Sweden like the rest of the world is having to deal with the impact of wars that Europe has benefited from like the oil and minerals so there is a cost to bear. The so called pampering of migrants is in fact one way that is sometimes to used to keep migrants down not really helping them and migrants did not ask for pampering. Blaming migrants for a return to conservative values is strange because there has always been a small conservative group of people in the community even prior to migration. Everyone in the country including migrants want to improve the country without talking about wokeness or right wing extremism after all many Swedes migrate to other countries and those countries have to find a way to deal with those Swedes too.

[@nancyrobertson8661]

@@editfazekas3854 It's self evident.

[@dennykeaton9701]

​@@editfazekas3854 Everything is falling apart over the last decade.

[@philliprobertlawman2232]

To late, damage is done and continues to be done!

[@hgmalmo4585]

😊Göran, normala Svenskar födda 50-60 talet, delar dina iakttagelser och så bra formulerat i text! Tack för ditt arbete från HG 67 år och Malmö.

[@patriknordin2274]

svenskar födda på 50 & 60 talet har röstat för landsförräderiet så nej du har fel 😊

[@DonaldDuck-n3w]

85a här, född i Sverige med föräldrar från Europa, och jag håller helt med 🙏🏻

[@valentintomberg4276]

I travel a lot for work in Central Europe. For example, I was in Berlin for a few days yesterday. My contribution to this discussion is: too late, too late, too late, the train has already left.

[@markbrowne1967]

USA citizenship does not require the tests you mention, not any longer and it is causing all kinds of parallel migrant cultures and problems.

[@20chocsaday]

Not so surprising.

[@pagnas]

15 million just walking over the border. They must speak English 😂😂😂

[@dnstone1127]

Dr Goran speaks excellent English.

[@Searchio]

Multiculturalism in Sweden didn't failed. Not at all. That's how it really looks like.

[@hanhquyenpham7971]

What an underrated comment 👏

[@fjashfcsahds]

Stop putting your ideology upon others. Get in touch with reallity.

[@physiocrat7143]

Sweden gave up its Christianity and there is no way back unless it is recovered.

[@KenFullman]

Charles wanted to change his coronation speech to avoid becoming "defender of the faith". I think he should have deleted it completely because he's certainly not defending the faith now. Even as an atheist I can see how bad this is.

[@Sancto58]

Christianity is the root of the massinvasion, with its Turn the other cheek (or three other cheeks) and Love your enemies.

[@MonaLisa-lu8zi]

Suppressing your religious heritage for what reasons? To accept an alternative. Surely not. History is relevant. There is a need for the teaching of history, and religion to be re-integrated into the curriculum particularly that which has relevance, historically and presently, to the national interests. Sweden needs to reclaim its national identity.

[@physiocrat7143]

@MonaLisa-lu8zi The problem for Swedish Christianity is that Lutheranism as the state religion ran its course a long time ago.

[@mimszanadunstedt441]

The final destination of christianity is atheism. But I think the story of Jesus is what enabled humility in christianity. Their god, getting cucked out of physicality, then, coping about it. Actually this might be why rape culture is so prevalent, like in Hollywood or the Catholic church for example. Secretly philosophy is greek culture and running the show, a parasite within christianity. I can see why some like the old testament, it has some wisdoms. But so does the 36 Strategies of Ancient China. You want to know why modern China likes Mao? Well, aside from propaganda, it likes Mao because they got out of their perpetual civil wars. Unification. And China is leading with green energy. I'm not really going anywhere else with this thoughtstream unfortunately. The world is a complex thing, I recommend playing Factorio to boost logic.

[@marieparker3822]

Some cultures are better than others.

[@vira1340]

It was feminism original tactic to shut people up by calling them sexist. This tactic was adopted by DEI and extended to all aspects including multi culturalism.

[@shanratnam6973]

There are two things you guys are missing 1. Do they have a religion that says theirs are the only true religion. 2. Do they come from a society which has a family oriented structure and more importantly they have a drive to uplift themself with the opportunities. That is why the Indians and Chinese do well in fact the the Indian community in USA are the highest earning community with the 2% population paying 6% of tax. It all comes down to who you let in. It is sad to see that European politician's are destroying their country.

[@miraladak2314]

@@shanratnam6973 they've destroyed other people's countries even more

[@pincermovement72]

But Indians and Chinese may do well but are very insular and always hark back to their motherland, if there was a war with China or India like there was against Japan what would you do with these fifth colonists who would always serve their homeland first ?

[@SwedenNeedsHelp]

Make Sweden Swedish again!

[@davidhoang2527]

More like make it stupid again. I have to say sweden getting smarter day by day and not as naive as before thanks to the immigrants. Before swedish are pretty naive 😅

[@andreas2949]

Dr. Göran Adamson for next prime minister.

[@evelynmccabe3855]

Whats happening in the Republic of Ireland is now the same as what happened to Sweden. If anyone questions the huge numbers of migrants mainly muslim arriving in Ireland are called - far right and racist. There are very few politicians both in parties or non who will discuss this problem. Mainstream media is shooting down any discussion on this subject. I am pessimistic for the future of our small state..

[@alanaadams7440]

Sweden fell hook line and sinker for wokeness.

[@danx1216]

exactly

[@sosammathomas1525]

Multiculturism will be stable if all, like, do the way UAE and saudi .Only work visa .Citizenship giving to migrant will try to change culture and the way of ruling..The truth.

[@DouglasJones-wg6xh]

BRO STFU WE DO NOT NEED MULTICULTURALISM IN SWEDEN OR ANY EUROPEAN COUNTRY WE ARE NOT GLOBALIST ARE YOU INSANE SWEDEN HAS A POPULATION OF 11 million NOT EVERYWHERE NEEDS TO BE A FUCKING MELTING POT

[@AndersWahlberg]

As strange as this might sound to people who used to know Sweden, this guy is actually rather understating the extent and gravity of the problem. The question is if this demographic "mass extinction event" of the ethnic Swedes and our society is even fixable anymore. The swedish story of state sponsored wokeism and the results is very sad and should serve as a stark cautionary tale to other peoples of the West.

[@julmor07]

Det var allt avsikligt av politikerna

[@DouglasJones-wg6xh]

Get outside this is ridiculous in any other fucking time period where we aren’t so constitutionally pussifufied there would have already been a revolution against the tyrannical treasoners

[@wiseonwords]

"There is something sinister going on here."

[@helentyrer3298]

You have to ask who is responsible for all that’s taking place . Time someone stood up and brought that into the room so everyone can see the direction we are all sinking into !

[@tedmom3029]

Thank you for the frank and honest presentation and conversation.

[@RossKempOnYourMum01]

Always blows my mind how well Scandinavians speak English

[@Sancto58]

My answer to "Denmark realized this problem 25 years ago and was mocked by Sweden for changing course" is shadow banned for writing, 99% of all the more than TWO MILLION "immigrants" to Sweden have come VIA our "dear" neighbor country Denmark and over the Öresund Bridge!!!

[@Microbex]

Sweden opened their doors for multiculturalism, just like the Christian Lebanon did in the 70's...

[@Sancto58]

@@Microbex Not Sweden, the Swedish POLITICIANS who are in the hands of the Khazar mafia.

[@erebus79]

Why should they be friendly to the most arrogant country in the world, Sweden?

[@Labyrinthen]

I am myself born in sweden of albanian makedonian immigrants. Can't agree more with him. Although in my parents time the immigrants learned the language and worked and did something for them selves. Today too many of them live on social funding from tax payers or do crime.

[@goa9034]

Yes In Flames

[@carlingrosso6630]

I'm swedish - thanks for spreading this! 👍

[@rarebird_82]

Import the 3W Become the 3W

[@margaretatorssell8957]

This has been going on for years and years. Impossible to discuss immigration openly but in the kitchen of ordinary people the discussion is quite different...

[@dennykeaton9701]

I can't believe they're actually admitting it. 🤔

[@SF_D]

Dr. Göran Adamsson’s analysis, despite his extensive authorship on the subject, unfortunately lacks depth and nuance in addressing multiculturalism in Sweden. It is regrettable that his perspective does not incorporate more comprehensive factors, such as the implications of Sweden’s declining population and its role in shaping migration policies and demographic strategies. A broader interdisciplinary approach, integrating demographic trends, labor market demands, and the socio-economic context, would provide a more meaningful and balanced discussion on this complex issue.

[@avagrego3195]

Thank you for this informative video.

[@suprlite]

It has failed everywhere.

[@pinkharrier47]

The failure of multiculturalism anywhere is predicated on the notion that its real purpose was to make a better society. That's not the case. The whole idea was to create a more divided environment, and it has succeeded everywhere that it has been implemented. Ask yourself what sort of world wide pressure group would wish to ignore the wishes of any incumbent majority to maintain a homogenous stability? Japan has a demographic and ageing issue. What would be best for the next 50 to 100 years? More pointedly, what would be worst?

[@typetwo]

They don't allow immigration because of there history with Korean migrant segregation. They know integration doesn't really work.

[@alexandervanlohen4229]

I agree on everything mentioned in this discussion. Thanks for sharing. Cheers from Germany

[@NicholaWallace]

In Australia we have migrants from all over the world so we are very multicultural. It has been relatively successful until we accepted those with Islamic backgrounds. Our governments have been reluctant to deport those who break the law or don't want to integrate.

[@Mysteriousman-b3y]

Hindus paid heavy price for islamic invasion. It was terrible. Post partition of India,minority Muslims population went up. Where as minorities in Pakistan and bangaldesh went to single digit,reduced. Muslims don't accept non Muslims. They only accept non Muslims women because women can produce more kids. This is truth. Australians should be careful,once their population grow significant. Slowly they gonna get into key political position and dedicate rules without considering others.

[@udz39]

Thanks a 1000 times 👏

[@bearowen5480]

"The Strange Death Of Europe". Douglas Murray

[@88ramblinman]

"Last year, the birth rate per woman in Sweden was the lowest ever recorded: 1.45. To maintain a stable population, around 2.1 children per woman are needed. In the long run, the current birth rate will result in a population of zero"....this was never discussed in this important and relevant discussion. But when you have one of the wealthiest countries per capita on the planet and you have to maintain a pension system that expects this level of security and wealth, then you need a young and working demographic to pay the bill. No babies, no pension. Japan has the same problem. Sweden cannot economically sustain it's standard of living without it's immigrants nor can they fulfil undesirable jobs. If Swedes produced children then they wouldn't allow mass immigration in their country.....my assessment as a (western) immigrant of 35 years living i Stockholm.

[@parcomolo256]

Multiculturalism didn't fail. Sweden got all of the added culture, that the Swedes tirelessly voted for over decades. They got what they wanted. That's not failure; that's success!

[@timcase3271]

Sad but true

[@20chocsaday]

Be careful what you ask for. Could this have anything to do with a senior politician being shot?

[@peterwulff469]

- exactly, the Swedes got exactly what they voted for, and what a few of us warned them against.

[@dukeofvoid6483]

​@@20chocsadayAnna Lindh, who approved the forced deportation of two Islamists to Egypt?

[@eurasia57]

@@20chocsaday The rotations in his grave dug a tunnel system that undermined and swallllowed the whole country.

[@StefanRixö]

We has the biggest problem in Europe beacuse swedish politician razorbacks. 🇸🇪

[@MsVesperado]

And the justice system, terrible corrupt and hypocritical. Media also.

[@serene5986]

Mass migration accepts that some countries will remain crap and everybody there has to escape somewhere better. Why not improve these places so that they stay in their own countries? Of course the West made things worse collapsing Iraq, Syria, Libya etc.

[@michaelscales5996]

Immigration is fine IF you have sufficient housing,and your health care and education systems can cope.Unfortunately the UK has ignored these requirements and the result is a huge housing shortage and 7 million waiting for operations. Many can't get on the housing ladder and hence anger towards immigrants has grown.Putting them in 4 star hotels whilst many of our own are queuing in Food Banks annoys many Britons. To allow the extra millions into our tiny over crowded island just put two fingers up to the taxpaying citizens,hence the discontent.

[@irenapesula7772]

The same situation in Canada.

[@Diddy1970AD]

I would say even if we (the UK) had sufficient housing, health care and education system immigration for immigration sake is madness.

[@Alex.af.Nordheim]

America never had multiculturalism. Multiculturalism means instead of a dominant culture, there are multiple different cultures coexisting in the country. Integration is what America has been practicing, where immigrants were integrated into the general American culture while still keeping some aspects of their own identities.

[@mimr5280]

This is a very mature and sensible conversation.

[@tedmom3029]

It was a mistake to believe somehow you are a better culture if you have diversity. One of the biggest issues is not the cultural differences but the religious differences that often drives those cultural divides and you can’t just sweep those away with co-existence; that simply doesn’t work.

[@agatastaniak7459]

The biggest mistake, not only Sweden has made, was the preference for immigrants from non-European countries over those better educated ones from Europe. Of course it was based on desire to increase the amount of cheapest labour force for lowest paying physical jobs but it did backfire badly. Not only in Sweden. Plus the fact that grassroot gettho-like settlement movement was not prevented bt even promoted, like in France it allowed to create immigrants only dominated areas. In Sweden situation is very fragilenow due to the fact that those areas inhabited almost exclusively by immigrants imported Palestine-Isreali conflict and as a result now witnesses mutual hostilities from organized crime groups on both sides, so now wonder nobody wants an open and rational academic dicussion about problems with immigration and multiculturalism right now in state media or on state universities. Even without such discussion the tensions between these groups of immigrants can get out of hand at any time. Overspill of this problem is already being visible in Finland and despite it's decisive response it is likely to grow in intensity in incoming years.

[@hansistein6325]

A lot of multiculturalists pride themselves on their "superior" morality, humbling themselves and their own culture's achievements, belittling their success or criminalizing it so as to appear VIRTUOUS. Be proud of your nation and you are a "fascist." Be humble to the point of disappearing and you are among the holy. It's all hypocritical. A sham morality.

[@juliettailor1616]

Really sad to see Sweden's demise for it was an outstanding example of the Scandinavian model but that model is viable only with people who are compatible. In spite of appearances multiculturalism has failed in the US (and the UK) as well. The.US was at it's greatest when it had immigrants of similar cultures and religions, i.e. the English, Scottish, the Germans, Swedes. Problems came with the Catholic immigration of Italians and Irish but they were also integrated eventually successful. It's when the nation quotas (largest for Europeans) were eliminated when the problems began. And of course with the US shameful history of importing slaves The US no longer has any cultural identity. The government, unlike Sweden's, is inefficient and wasteful. Lots of other problems. The US empire is imploding.

[@FJBFJT]

It is beyond repair sadly

[@triggerhappy3034]

So refreshing to hear someone still making use of logic. Thank you for this video. On a side note, I really wouldn’t blame it on naïveté - the entire MSM throughout Europe all suddenly gone naive? No. There’s menacing financial and political interests dictating content from the top. Who doesn’t align loses their jobs, hence the pathetic self-censorship.

[@szmiabg]

Everywhere.

[@FUToob]

He's somewhat afraid to face reality. With all that egalitarianism in Sweden since the 1940s, including a significant amount of money and rabid feministic education, why is it that approx. 90% of females go into social work, teaching, nursing, and 90% of the engineers and mathematicians are men in Sweden? The entire issue of genetics is overlooked because if you want to you can still craft a narrative that it is all culture.

[@contribution741]

Genetics is so very important. Not only in terms of gender but in terms of temperament and IQ. Are we ready for such a discussion? I hope so!

[@debrakelly4505]

I feel bad for Sweden, and I’m very thankful that Trump was elected in my country.

[@mammaherbst9703]

Sweden played a significant role in transforming South Africa. Thank you for that. It is only fair that Sweden is now being transformed too.

[@elioxman8496]

But the real challenge and totally honest one for Swedes is to have children, Swedish ones. If Muslim names are the most popular names for boys in Sweden today what do you expect to happen in another 20 years? Convert to Islam or move to Canada?

[@irenapesula7772]

Canada is not far behind.

[@elioxman8496]

@@irenapesula7772 true, but there is much more living space here....I'm Canadian btw

[@elioxman8496]

@@irenapesula7772 in fact my suggestion was a three prong one: canada is a large and cold country, canada is a country that nations try not to fight each other (true so far), canada is a country of immigrants who do not care about their own homeland enough to stay there and fight for it.

[@JJJ111JJJ]

The first Muslim name I can find among most popular names during 2023 is Josef at #45.

[@contribution741]

@@elioxman8496 all Crown land

[@godoug]

When i heard the tone of this video I was intrigued to find out who mcc Brussels were, and found they are funded by the Hungarian government. If 30% of Swedens birth rate comes from migrant mothers, one wonders how bad the demographic crisis for Sweden would be without them. Western economies have aging populations with declining birth rates reliant upon growth economies for pensions and health care, I wonder how this would be achieved without migration? I think most rational people would accept that migration should also involve integration, and that this has been lacking in most European countries. But it seems that suggesting that a high tax regime and good prisons attract a certain type of migrant, implying that if we take these things away then Swedens problem would be reduced, misses that these were the same conditions that the population thrived in with the lowest crime rates and most equal society in the world. The USA has a very harsh prison system and a higher imprisonment rate than China, but that doesn't seem to have solved their crime problems. The UK taxes are much lower , and yet they still have high migration (ironically higher after leaving the EU). There is definitely a discussion and debate to be had about migration and integration, but this isn't it, this is Viktor Orban's propaganda. As a British immigrant in Sweden i hope that Swedes realise before it's too late that the path away from their high tax welfare state with high levels of state ownership and trust that we are on ends badly- i know because I've experienced it in the uk, it's sewage in rivers, terrible public services, insecure jobs, poor workers rights and an asset owning elite who pay no social taxes, own the political system, and have rigged the entire country for their own benefit and convinced the population it's what they want. Sweden, don't be a dumb sucker like many of the British population are, fight for the things that actually made your country great. Kom igen Sverige!

[@lucilaalmiranez7351]

Many European countries are losing their identity. So very sad...!

[@christianefurnkranz9957]

What exactly do you mean? Do you think that these European countries are becoming too much like the USA?

@@christianefurnkranz9957no they becoming the shithole where this emigrants coming from😂😂😂😂

[@bonita2011]

if I knocked on a door and was invited in, upon accepting that invitation I would be appreciative of the hospitality. I would abide by the "laws of house" and if I didn't like that, i would politely leave. If I decided to stay, I would do my best to add value to my host, during my time as a guest. At the very least this is common courtesy.

[@contribution741]

some cultures are predatory