Deep Water Kokanee Without Downriggers

[@jordanhancock5947]

Every Kokanee video of yours That I have watched, you always limit out. That is incredible to someone like myself who considers 2 Kokes to the yak a great day lol. Your videos are very informative and helpful. Thank you for sharing your expertise.

[@cdro670]

Very informative! I learned a lot from your videos! Thanks! ive been watching every video since your very first one, now I'm here. I will continue on to watch every single one! Tight Lines! ✌

[@arturoerickson1799]

Thank you for the encouragement. We use a canoe and I am very shy about trying to use a down rigger. Your example may just work out for us.

[@timreha]

Epic production value and content, easy to follow and super informative. Hope companies want to sponsor you and your show.

[@DeanKreger-xc9hf]

Great video, I have question if the vibration of the downrigger line causes the fish to swim away. I will try this method on Strawberry after ice off.

[@spiltmilt]

I find that it does not influence my catch rate that much

[@DeanKreger-xc9hf]

@@spiltmilt Thank you.

[@BC-ue3ku]

After watching this video I started using this sliding weight system. Very easy to rig up and it’s a great way to change the weight quickly.

[@GreedeeVids]

Awesome info sir! I just got a Colorado XT patoon boat and I love it. I got the set up you were talking from Hooked on Toys guy. Fantastic people to get help from there. Only problem I had last weekend I went out was I didn't know how far down my line was. Your formula will help a ton thank you!

[@addictedtofishing7080]

Great video partner and great tips for trolling

[@SalmonKing52]

I don’t have line counter reels. What would be the best way to mark my mono lines at the 50, 75, and 100’ marks?

[@spiltmilt]

You can just sharpie a 1 or 2' section every 25'

[@joshanderson924]

what reels you using here?

[@fishing132006]

Can you use the eagle claw feather light 7 ft 6 in rod on a downrigger or is that too much stress? How about also can you use a 4 oz weight with the eagle claw featherlight if you have it in a rod holder? Just wondering if that rod is better trolling with a sliding weight or a downrigger rod?

[@spiltmilt]

It's perfectly fine on the downrigger however I wouldnt go any heavier than 3 oz on the slider rig

[@fishing132006]

@@spiltmilt ok thanks so much. Love your videos. You've taught me a lot. Wish I could fish with you one day that would be awesome.

[@stevenderusha6421]

Great video.. always good information. Thanks

[@gordonmcds]

Love your videos! Any insight on some kokanee lakes near the Auburn area? I've tried American, had a couple bites. Using a Colorado pontoon boat with trolling motor. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

[@daveyork973]

I have tried using the slider but had problems with the weight tangling with my flasher. Now I know what to correct! I've also been running my lures (hoochie, wedding ring, old goat) about 18 - 24 inches back from the flasher. Will moving them closer work for other trout as well? Great video Tyler!

[@gljewel]

I have a question, I like to use braid on my kokanee reels for a couple reasons, I don't have to respool it as often and I can get deeper with braid than I can with mono. With all of your comparison videos I wonder if you've considered braid vs mono or if you have a view on this? With braid I have to use a snubber or I lose fish. Mono I don't add a snubber. Just curious!

[@mb1475]

Very green at this. What are you using to determine what depth the fish are at? A fishfinder? If so, how do you determine they are Kokanee and not trout or crappie or what ever? Also, what do you use to determine your speed? Thank you.

[@spiltmilt]

1.) How you determine depth here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJPPmqFul7uIpNE 2.) Can't really differentiate to the species but in general I can use location, depth, and behavior to determine species 3.) I use the GPS built into my fishfinder to determine speed

[@darenlobben4707]

Hi I really enjoyed this video. Do you happen to have the link for the sliding trolling weights??

[@spiltmilt]

You buy these slides amzn.to/300cgqG and then get a hold any cannonball weights.

[@MrAcuta73]

Grew up fishing with in-line kidney weights, no electronics, and gang flashers....we caught a ton of them. That said? Not fighting the weight or the drag of flashers by using a DR and dodgers makes catching them a TON more fun. They taste the same either way....GOOD!! (especially for breakfast with eggs and fried potatoes) Edit: The best of both worlds, in lakes where it works well, is jigging. Allows you to get deep without DR, relatively little weight, not even the drag of a dodger between you and the fish. I even caught a limit once casting and retrieving a Crippled Herring from the bank. They'd take it on the fall.

[@spiltmilt]

I wish we could use jigging more here but except for a few months out of the year the fish spread out instead of schooling up. It is fun though!

[@jonyoung4331]

@@spiltmilt Awesome videos you share on here. I see you tagged what rods you use, could you tell me what reels and line you use as well? Thanks.

[@Icemoose48]

My dad and I have tried using sliding weights but we end up having the dodger getting tangled with the weight. Have you had similar problems and how did you mitigate it?

[@josephkamphaus6625]

I find if I let my line out more slowly it keeps it from getting tangled.

[@spiltmilt]

You need to slow the rate which you drop your gear down. If you have clickers on your reels turn those on or alternatively you can strip out by hand. With practice you can do it fairly fast without getting tangles. You can also bump your speed up when dropping gear too and that will help prevent tangles....sometimes it trigger a bite as well.

[@Icemoose48]

Thanks, we use clickers but we'll try speeding up

[@mountainmatthew]

IM READY TO RAVE

[@WhatUpDoe1000]

Great tutorial. Sorry if I missed it but did you put any bait on the hoochie? Corn? Or any scent?

[@spiltmilt]

corn

[@Handberrydea]

Sweet yak rig brother!!

[@thestalkarcheryarrows]

Why only 6 inches from hooch? It doesn’t really matter how much leader you have I guess?

[@travisfoster242]

I believe you said with 3oz and 100' of line, you will get ~30' deep, does that mean you could get ~35' deep if you let our 150' of line, or would you have to add more weight to get any deeper? If so I'm wondering what rod you would recommend as mine max out at 3oz.

[@spiltmilt]

I think the relationship really starts to change as you get more line out and increased drag on the line. I would guess you would getting 38-45' deep at those lengths. That is just a guess

[@Matt-jg8bl]

How do you like those lamiglas kokanee rods? I troll topline for nice size trout and wanted to use a Kokanee rod but I don’t know if they are too flimsy for top lining.

[@spiltmilt]

First they are really fun but best for toplining or downrigger. They can't handle more than 1 or 2 oz lead and then they are maxed out.

[@kurzhaarguy]

And there's the answer to my earlier question.

[@TREADELSEWHERE]

Curious as to what rod holders those are.

[@TREADELSEWHERE]

Pretty cool video man happen to pop up in the recommend feed

[@spiltmilt]

Here is the video that goes over the rod holders kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3vMmaWubL10kLs

[@HighRangeHunting]

Love lake Chelan! Sucks Washington shut us down. I'll be targeting Kokanee in Idaho until thee open again!

[@eyesopen2694]

We in Idaho have a very hard time with sharing our fish and wildlife...be careful where you park the truck...although you do have a better chance than cali licence plates in our woods...

[@captainron9136]

What are the specs on the plug rods you are using?

[@spiltmilt]

7'6", medium action, 1/4 oz to 1.5 oz, composite blend

[@captainron9136]

Spilt Milt Productions What brand do you like?

[@ernieflynn5124]

How do you feel about bottom bouncers for kokane?

[@spiltmilt]

Not why you would need a bottom bouncer

[@willis1519]

Just curious if the colored, weighted line will work for Kokanee instead of weights. Ever try it? Pros? Cons?

[@spiltmilt]

I have used lead core line but I favor droppers for a couple reason. 1.) Lead core max depth is about 40' 2.) Lead core line requires an oversized reel and heavier rod 3.) With droppers I can change the weight rapidly making it easier to adapt the conditions

[@willis1519]

Spilt Milt Productions Thank you! Good points.

[@johng337]

Nice video...thanks man

[@macsmith2092]

What line do you run? Love your videos!

[@roytiller4537]

6" to the hoochie? I run em about 8" from the leading tip of the swivel to the nose of the hoochie. Seems to work for me. lol

[@spiltmilt]

Everybody has their own formula

[@markiseri6565]

What time of the year can you fish at Chelan using your method?

[@spiltmilt]

Year round

[@bf594f4]

Good info , thanks....

[@wanderingaquatics5888]

What time of year what this

[@spiltmilt]

Early winter November

[@davidkakish]

What reel and test are you using?

[@spiltmilt]

Okuma Convector 20D or the Shimano Bantam Linecounter (no longer in production).

[@FougereFamilyAdventures]

Great video!

[@oscarmendoza5278]

Is that lake Chelan????

[@troypattillo4100]

Nice vid. Thanks for sharing again! Off topic but I'm looking to employ jet divers this year and am curious what rod would handle the extra drag. Currently I have the Okuma SST 7'6" light. Will this rod be underpowered for jets and or your dropper technique? Thanks for any insight you can provide. TIGHT LINES!

[@spiltmilt]

You want a much heaver rod to handle jet divers. Will be fishing moving waters (e.g. rivers) or lakes/bays?

[@troypattillo4100]

Strictly reservoirs and natural lakes. I hate to re-gear as I intend to outfit my boat with DRs in the foreseeable future but as the ice recedes I want to start chasing trout and kokes. Typically I target bass but I'm switching gears this year as my kids get older and these fish seem perfect to immerse them in the sport of angling. Thanks again, you've inspired me!

[@jopaul93]

How much weight is your cannon ball

[@spiltmilt]

4 to 6 oz depending on the depth I desire.

[@stvsanders]

Where is this? Beautiful lake!

[@briandickey1353]

Lake Chelan, north of Wenatchee in central Washington State.

[@mgrube6123]

What speed do you troll?

[@spiltmilt]

1 to 1.5 mph

[@mgrube6123]

Thanks

[@inmotion81]

Your talking about lakes with more kokanee then water goto a lake with not so many kokanee in them bet this will never work we dont have so many koks in our lakes in nor cal and it's much harder to even get to fish all day .

[@spiltmilt]

Sounds like u are doing something wrong to me

[@billgo4th]

Great video!