DeepCool's CH160 is SFF Air Cooling at its... Deepest.

[@hanyh2]

Glad you got this review squared away.

[@MachinesMore]

Touché!

[@tomlavelle8340]

L 7

[@sig3ldunc4nI]

You could say, he has it handled

[@matteo4413]

Love that ITX cases are starting to support huge air coolers. Would be nice if Deepcool offered one for ~$10 more that included a vented side pannel.

[@impruv522]

it's coming later this year, google CH160 Digital

[@MrBecas22]

You mean 10$ less :D

[@nootonian4149]

ueyyyy now there is

[@Netherspark0_0]

You can actually remove the entire IO panel to make fitting the graphics card a lot easier.

[@ferdinandbardamu3945]

That top exhaust fan robs the CPU cooler of intake air. It should either be a top intake or a solid piece that prevents front intake air from exiting too soon.

[@ewertbellingan7450]

Can probably turn psu around to extract air from inside and have both top and front fans as intakes? This should also solve the issue of having the psu suck in unfiltered air through the side panel and blowing it onto the inside of the top filter. Not adding a filter for the side panel is for me a bigger issue...

[@mikeelek9713]

I bought this case to build a small PC for my daughter (waiting for it to be delivered). Although most reviewers like the large DeepCool CPU cooler, I'm loathe to spend as much on the cooler as I spent on the case. Great job on the video, as always.

[@chewdawg]

I'd like to see this case with the rear fan intake and front+front/top fans exhaust (and of course the CPU fan going the other way as well). It would have both the CPU and GPU getting fresh air from outside the case and all the airflow going in one direction.

[@oRicardoHetfield]

i don't know why no one is doing that! I hoped that M&m would do it... so obvious, then even the top front fan would actually make sense, and even you could get rid of the front fan...

[@SoundFisher]

Flip the rear fan into intake (add a magnetic dust filter behind), flip the fan of the air cooler, flip the front fan into exhaust. That may have more better cpu thermals.

[@cortlong]

i feel like deepcool was like "alright, lets get out shit together" and just started dropping absolute bangers lately. their AIO is a monster despite being loud af. this case has my attention now too.

[@Quivver77]

Can you please test the Noctua nh-d15 in the CH-160 case and compare it with the deepcool Assassin? I would love to see if a noctua cooler performs better or not.

[@boss350z5]

the front IO panel is removable to make the card installation easier.

[@chrisrussellca]

So weird that they didn’t provide the decorative squares in the retail package

[@ah-ys8gs]

Hi. Will i have clearance problems if my nvme requires heatsink?🤔 Other parts that will go with build is 4080super, peerless asasin 120se for cooling, sfx psu, asrock a620i mobo. Thx!

[@davidi1629]

Your mobo will be fine, the mobo used in the video actually has 2 nvme bays at that slot, it is massive, taller than the VRM heatsink !

[@obeliskt1024]

Man, I would've loved to see this case back in 2020 when I was first delving into SFF. I wouldn't have gone to buy an Inwin A1. This is the perfect case for me back then, big enough to accommodate beefy air coolers, good PSU support (atx and sff), good airflow direction (front to back), enough ventilation all around and oh god that build process, being able to disassemble the top would would have been a godsend. Maybe on my next sff build, but for now I'm stuck with this inwin a1 hotbox which is a pain to build/update my build on.

[@rovertyenrab]

Nothing stopping you from doing a transplant into this case 🍷

[@yanni-duff]

It's cheap enough that you can always case swap if your current one is not to your liking. And you can also do some pixel art on the front so win win I guess?

[@obeliskt1024]

@@yanni-duff yeah maybe ill try to swap once I get my 4070FE. Not sure how the fitment will go because i have an atx psu

[@sparkplugbarrens]

Does the top exhaust fan do anything? It seems like it would direct the air intake directly out the top before entering the cpu cooler.

[@MachinesMore]

If you run the fans at the same speed, then that could happen. The front and rear fans need to sync with the cooler fan, the top exhaust is just a slow speed case fan.

[@attilaruzsa6692]

did the cable plugged into the PSU came with the case at 7:56 or you bought it?

[@yokoboy7440]

Yes

[@krazyfrog]

16:41 The top exhaust position doesn't make much sense to me in a front to back airflow pattern. Wouldn't it just immediately exhaust the fresh air coming in from the front fan before it reaches the CPU cooler?

[@bodasactra]

My top fan feeds a dual 120 twin tower air cooler. I get 5-7c better temps than exhaust.

[@DanteSlims]

Is it possible to flip this case upside down? I noticed the feet is just screw mounted on the bottom panel. I'm planning on putting that on the top panel instead and ditching the handle, then flip everything upside down so i have my front panel on top, then my rear ports on the right side of my desk.

[@roadrash999]

Can you remove the top handle or does that always stay there.

[@MachinesMore]

Removable and looks fine without it.

[@chrisnotyourbusines7739]

Wow finally someone did from the start up what I'm doing for years to fit my big noctua in a small case

[@robiecalong2]

You said doesn’t have an option for a vented side panel (metal), do you know if we can buy from Deepcool; because i will be traveling with it. Glass panel and bumpy travel conditions will potentially break the glass some time or another. It would be cool to do LAN party, considering they are coming with some good IPS portable monitors… hahaha on 15 inches of monitor 😅

[@random-zr5km]

Great Video! Best SFF case reviews on YT! I love the size comparison b-roll, it's so helpful! How about displaying the case names in the upper part of the screen as beginners might struggle to know which case is which? Maybe using yellow for the case you're reviewing and a darker blue or green for the names of the other cases might look well... Video length 25min was def nice and the amount of helpful details you mention really help a lot in figuring out if I want to buy that case. Only point I missed more details of was airflow direction. Is bottom to top realistically viable or front to back only? Can you show a b-roll of how a smaller rtx 4070/4060 and rx 7600/6700 would look inside the case in the next video about this case, please? Also, I'm in the market for an SFX PSU when a good deal shows up. But there's no corsair SF 450/600 in the shops/marketplaces I looked through. Corsair SF 750 for 190€ was the smallest I found. Can you make a video to help budget oriented builders find a great value SFX PSU?

[@gojiplusone]

I'm planning to build with the same motherboard and case but with 7900 non-X CPU. Will the AK400 be enough to cool it and are there any compatibility issues with the Strix X670E-I??? (Namely the stacked nvme)

[@trousersnake1486]

They could of put a couple of cable routing clips on the outside of the case on the back for a power cord. It's not a deal breaker for me but would've helped.

[@clarkkent999]

Have you figure out why there's extra screw holes on the bar where the front IO is located?

[@julfy_god]

sad that it doesn't support matx motherboards, could have been really nice case

[@rubyvolt]

I have a DeepCool sic pipe dual tower that I bought for my 4790K that is now on my 9900KF. Three 120's and Cinebench gets the CPU to just 76C. Great stuff.

[@superstaples]

Any word on when the tower style digital version of this case launches??

[@tomasnovak4824]

jsut have a question if you could fit a 240mm aio and a atx psu or no i checked that it is possible with the atmos 240 and i have the ls520 which is really similar nice vids tho

[@czdot]

I've just got this case. Works ok with a modular ATX PSU, you just have to bend the cables well enough so they interfere with a graphics card as much. I even managed to attach 2 slim fans under the GPU inside the case. My result will most likely vary in the future if I get a different GPU. I am really happy with case. :-)

[@candymangames5022]

The T-30's used on the rad look thick , perhaps more pump clearance if the fans were noctua slims ?

[@davidi1629]

I got this case, sfx psu is preferred for better airflow with the extra two fans (top and front) but an atx non modular psu will allow full gpu lenght.

[@Quaddragon]

I agree with you on the front panel IO. It needs shorter cables. It would have been cool to allow for a plug in the top of the case so it could be removeable. I also would have liked to see a mesh side panel for people wanting to run front facing coolers instead of the side mounted one.

[@marksulloway5669]

Nice review. Lots of screws. I would prefer a vented metal side panel instead of glass. Would like to see a build with a smaller air cooler.

[@Xxlionxx5150]

can you try the noctua slim fit fans in with the radiator to see if that would be a better fit for the fans? i feel like thats an option on this case thats being overlooked as an option

[@Scarlet_Soul]

If this had an option for a vented side panel it would be perfect

[@TheTastefulThickness]

That option is coming but maybe not even much better for cooling.

[@Scarlet_Soul]

@@TheTastefulThickness I prefer the look over a glass panel anyway

[@realkencab]

Are you testing other air coolers in this case in the future? I'm curious if the Fuma 2/3 or the PA/PS120 would fit if you wanted to mount two fans on top of the case. With 140mm coolers like the Assassin IV, it doesn't seem like it, so I'm curious if it's possible with 120mm air coolers

[@garrek99]

In the all air setup, isn't the top exhaust fighting the overall airflow? The front intake fan supplies the top exhaust and the CPU intake fan. But the top exhaust is also taking away from the CPU intake fan, no? In my opinion, you are diverting air that would have been consumed by the CPU intake fan by adding the top exhaust fan.

[@keibohow69]

As you done water cooling you don't need the rear fan or set it to exhaust.

[@LORENSSIOK]

Is there a way to ad a hard drive and also keep a front 120mm/80mm fan?

[@The11devans]

The ability to invert this case would be pretty interesting. Looks like the feet can come off, so modding might be an option?

[@brianlove3369]

i was able to get a 4090FE installed have remove the front mount fan attachment. would recommend install the mother board nothing else then the card

[@foxfennec2940]

And what if you try to replace the fans on the radiator. To put not 120x120x25, but 120x120x15, so to speak, thin models. For example, from Thermalright TL-C12015S. Will this help, not interfere with the water block and radiator. Do not bend the motherboard, thereby reducing the likelihood of failure. There are also models with a low water block. This; ASUS ROG Strix LC 240 RGB White Edition ASUS ROG STRIX LC II 240 ARGB Jonsbo SHADOW TW4-240 ARGB Ver 2.0 It is a pity that they are without displays.)))

[@krazyfrog]

Also, what about a 120mm AIO the back? It looks like one could fit even though Deepcool doesn't mention it.

[@slizzle.280]

The top exhaust fan is damaging the results, since it's just gonna take most of the air provided by the front intake fan. The same goes for the AIO config where the rear fun is an exhaust, as it's just gonna compete for the AIO's fans for air.

[@VoltusYTPremiiiiiiiii]

sorry can i ask, which better build for airflow? can u share menitues of video, i want to see the build

[@stevenSantiago-h7w]

do you think ill be able to fit G.Skill Trident Z5 Royal Neo memory with this cooler

[@shooby02]

Probably my future case, in full white and the Deepcool Air Panel 100 in accessory because I'm not a big fan of glasses panel.

[@MNFBMS]

hello bro i wanna ask is there a place for ssd sata for this case?

[@chrisrussellca]

You could just remove the Acrylic pump cover on the ATMOS to remove 10mm from the overall height. Bringing the reduced height to 43mm. I made a video about this recently on my page.

[@cakeisalie]

I'm sure you dismantled this build already, how hard was it to pull out the 24-pin cable without scratching the case and PSU while fishing for the clip?

[@dallincabaliza1341]

Do you think an MSI Ventus 3060 and CM MWE 850 watts PSU will fit in that case?

[@anouarkafi7039]

I have question if deepcool ch160 can fit mini dtx motherboards

[@MaiLive-j1f]

Do you happen to know if the rog strix z690-i gaming wifi's tall m.2 heatsink not compatible with the aircoolers u used?

[@MachinesMore]

Gosh, probably my least favorite ITX board in terms of compatibility. If I had trouble with the X670E-I then I am almost certain the Asus Z690-I is a no-go.

[@MaiLive-j1f]

@@MachinesMore :( i made an inquiry request from deepcool and asked if any of their coolers can clear the m.2 heatsink of my motherboard.... Even they dont know...

[@jmssun]

Can it rotate 90’ and have the air blow upwards instead?

[@soumyavadey5611]

Can I use 120mm slim fans in this case?

[@karma.2781]

its looking impossible to fit a 280mm gpu aio with a cpu air cooler, can you confirm?

[@chronicvader]

I love everything but the way the power cord is. Having that cable just dangle like that out the back just doesn't do it for me

[@adpt_music]

another top tier review from Machines & More

[@ayuchanayuko]

A these sizes, its now a matx SFF case. The size reminds me of my Focus Nemesis and its 901 clone cube cases.

[@Weezedog]

Seems to be very similar to the KXRORS G200, right down to the handle, but slightly bigger and with tempered glass instead of a vented panel.

[@ariefnugraha243]

Amazing budget case, yeah I like deepcool's design language too, I wish they made mainstream consumer gpu with their design language too

[@mada5423]

does it comes with the cooler? I have not seen a single video where someone using other cooler

[@MachinesMore]

It doesn’t. The two do match up well, although you can pick any big cooler.

[@roadrash999]

Is the digital version not out yet? couldn't find it on google

[@Unhomiee]

Seems like a good alternative to the NR200 (at first glance). I'm only about a minute into the video.

[@Unhomiee]

Okay. Seems odd that it performed worse than the NR200 (thermally).

[@mattscomp]

​@@Unhomieewith support for giant air coolers like DeepCool's Assasin 4. It really should outperform the NR200.. It's possibly a bit wacky using an air cooler that costs more than twice what the CH160 does. Swapping for the newly released mesh side panel would maybe help at least a little too? I also wonder about the vertical base too. Personally I don't like the I/O getting shoved to the bottom. There is lots to think about here and expiriment with in this case. I won't knock the CoolerMaster NR200. What a great and classic chassis it's been. Definitely is still one to consider. I like that you can be rather sneaky and creative and just squeeze some Micro ATX boards in that one. Something that the DeepCool misses out on.

[@crunz91]

Great content and channel 👍🏻

[@illuminada4583]

what is that square thing for design

[@willn8664]

If I didn't already have the NR200, I would probably check this case out.

[@ICmikeyP]

Please try the rear intake with front/top as exhaust with the same air cooler, also make sure you flip the fan inside the CPU cooler around. That seems like it would be the optimum setup and interested to know the temps. It seems like a common sense setup that every reviewer didn't seem to think about. M&M get ahead of that and release a updated video please!

[@realbillgross]

Why would a newly released case not be able to fit 4080/4090 not even FE?

[@ItsTonyHere]

It can fit a 4080 fe, 4080 super fe, and a 4090 fe. Even tho deepcool says it dosent. If you remove the rear panel under installation and nudge it in it fits perfectly. Deepcool says max clearance is 305, but its 310:) "4080 super fe is 310, 4090 fe is 304" also smaller / slimmer 4080s like proart 4080 fits perfectly at 310mm

[@ItsTonyHere]

Apologies i meant the cpu cooler not the rear panel. You can install a 310mm card by nudging it in before installing a cpu cooler😅

[@ItsTonyHere]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKamga2jobOHjdEsi=HUcIQE0uv8ghMbDM 7.56 to 8.22

[@realbillgross]

@@ItsTonyHere right, but why would anybody use this case if they can fit 3-slot GPUs comfortably in a sandwich case, in some cases under 10L.

[@oakleytrue2414]

how much was this build?

[@mattscomp]

There is something intensely satisfying about packing so much in a small case isn't there? I'm sure that's a huge part of the appeal of SFF PC's in general. I do like the CH160 lunchbox and I'm looking forward to building in one. Mobo manufacturers please give us more cost effective mini itx boards 🙏 $400+ board in a $50 chassis is a bit nutso?! At least DeepCool is helping builders save some of their hard earned $ I guess. But talking about space again. Most larger ATX and many MICRO ATX chassis really feel so stupidly inefficient in terms of how much free space or air there is. It's plain for anyone to see exactly that. That's some nice air you're packing in that giant case..

[@buboybutoy1704]

if you install the sfx psu at the front, will an matx board fit?

[@LeonOwO]

Probably not, everything currently barely fits as is it would probably be too tall

[@22MaanMaan]

Hey can you check if a 310mm card would fit init?

[@ItsTonyHere]

As a matter a fact it does, you just have to remove the rear panel to nudge it in. You cant drop it straight in because of the panel would be in the way. But with nudging it in you have 1mm or maybe a lil more of clearnce👍

[@ItsTonyHere]

4080 super founders editon is 310mm exactly, ive seen it been used in multiple builds with this case

[@ItsTonyHere]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKamga2jobOHjdEsi=HUcIQE0uv8ghMbDM 7.56 to 8.22

[@rahul875]

Can we install 4s in Nr200p

[@ThrasherEscapes]

rectangle after intro: 😢😭

[@cmoney6190]

are the lengths of the cable able to be shortened?

[@MachinesMore]

The only reasonable way is if you replaced the cables entirely.

[@Jeff_Jaguar]

Rear intake the move for this case just like the NR200?

[@MachinesMore]

It can be, definitely on my radar to test.

[@Scarlet_Soul]

With the aio as well, intake front and back with exhaust out the radiator

[@The11devans]

@@MachinesMore looking forward to that one

[@rahul875]

Itx build are now getting more popular . Manufacturer make budget parts for it

[@aarakmorales]

Has anyone tried a longer GPU? I have a 308mm 4070 Vetus 3X in a A4-H20 and im really interested in switching to this case but i dont want to buy a new GPU lol

[@rovertyenrab]

The front I/O bothers me. Getting the GPU in pained me to watch Ways to fix it: 1) Reduce wire length for cleaner run to motherboard. 2) Reduced it to just a power button and 1 USB (skip the audio no one* use it) 3) replace the solid steel with a mech panel that folds down on a hinge like the Q58, but keeps the I/O PCB in place when opened. In general I find it unacceptable for a case like this to not support active GPU cooling.

[@chrisbullock6477]

Perfect for an air cooled 7800XT/4080 build

[@Aodan]

Can this fit in a NR200?

[@doddyary2184]

matx mobo cant fit ?

[@Savadrox]

i want that type of case but for 4090 suprim X

[@rasmusvedel]

Lost interest when you said there was no option for mesh side panel. I don't want glass. Stop forcing glass on us, case-manufacturers!

[@chic-fil-ashouldopenonsund3623]

I like glass

[@jellofruit1673]

duality of man

[@wendingo1]

I saw on reddit someone actually bought a mesh air filter panel on amazon. you have to cut it to fit this case but will look pretty dope

[@CAL1MBO]

Agreed but I like glass on this case

[@nootonian4149]

there is now! and a vertical stand for vertical case!

[@LCJammer]

needs vented side panel and the pigtail power cord is a let down. you can't tell me there isn't enough room to mount it to the case lol. was interested but thats a no for me oh well

[@carlo8108]

Who sells these now? :_(

[@Hardly_Party]

i wonder how much gpu space is lost by recessing the rear i/o. i like the design alot minus the handle, but that clearance isnt even enough for my 6950xt nitro +

[@GrainGrown]

*a lot "alot" isn't a word *isn't

[@RoyalTeaLegion]

How much is this?

[@type45tomcat21]

Looks like this is the actual successor of NR200P, instead of NR200P V2

[@the_defaultguy]

feels like the AK400 digital would fit nicely on this aesthetically idk, im poor af

[@kotztotz3530]

NR200 killer?

[@MyICONIC]

I want this with ALL Mesh, no window....

[@JeffryRusli]

dimension (mentioned) 331x200x250=16.55L dimension (online) 336x200x283=19.02L

[@Kokinkun]

Online dimension accounts for the feet and handle, the mentioned dimensions are just for the case itself.

[@dabidflor9563]

gear seekers was able to fit 4090 fe without any issue, i watched his full review that front panel IO can be taken off for easier gpu install, but he also said a 240mm rad was not possible and you showed it is which is a huge plus for me definitely will be getting one.

[@MachinesMore]

Yup, fits on spec. The IO cables are needlessly a burden in the gpu section but as long as you can manage them well it’ll be OK. 240 is fine but something like the PL240 flux with a low profile pump is best.

[@dabidflor9563]

Thanks for the reply! and noted will definitely keep that in mind@@MachinesMore

[@Hoonbernator1590]

That is one squarely monster

[@chrisbullock6477]

305MM length so 99% of cards wont fit you have a 4090. Most AMD cards even 7900XTX and anything 4080 and under will fit.

[@FrodeBergetonNilsen]

It is too wide. For that width, it should be an mATX case. It also have no cable mangement, as everything is stuffed in the open. I don't get the glass, as you only reveal ugly. Also, they are this close to get to a place of pure mesh, and thus to get rid of them case fans, but somehow, they even miss that. That psu needs to go behind the mb, for this design language to work. This is just a stuffed turkey, that do not work for extreme mesh or glass. It does how ever make my job easier. This is a working case that sort of shows what can be done by sheet metal production techniques using my designs. There is just such a lack of vision and innovation, but for once, they actually made a case with a cooler, that actually gives a somewhat meaningful artistic expression, not the best, but hey, they actually do. Sadly, they don't make parts based on it, they just iterate on what is already there. For this design, why is it not desktop oriented? That would improve GPU cooling, and there is no zag. I just don't get what these people are thinking?

[@lawlsaucemgee7849]

"Aktually the case is rectangular" 🤓🤓🤓. lol but anyway shits fresh!

[@thebritishviking]

Mate... i'm so sorry to say this but that's actually a rectangle