DEF CON 22 - Jayson E. Street - Around the world in 80 cons

"Around the world in 80 cons” - A Perspective
Jayson E. Street Senior Partner of Krypton Security
After spending 15 years in the hacker / InfoSec community, I thought it was time to pause and look back upon all I have seen, everywhere I have been, all the people I met and everything I have learned. And then share some of that knowledge with people to hopefully help them have a leg up moving forward. More importantly, compare and contrast my experiences and perspectives with statistics we commonly see based on attacks and the countries of origin. Statistics tell one story, perspective tells the other. This is a talk on perspectives.
Hackers, and hacking, are perceived differently around the world and, in turn, some view our community and what we do with different eyes than ours. I believe most reports/papers we (Americans) see about that topic are skewed and never give an accurate global image. Taking a very small dose of reality and comparing it to what we're subjected to, is interesting. Being a foreign hacker attending a con, or delivering an engagement, in an alien land often led to unexpected situations that I will also share.
I will also share while searching for diversity in our global hacking culture I found things that united us more than you would expect. I show how no matter what region of the planet you come from we face a threat we all need to face and overcome.
Jayson E. Street is an author of “Dissecting the hack: The F0rb1dd3n Network” from Syngress. Also creator of dissectingtheha... He has also spoken at DEFCON, DerbyCon, UCON and at several other ‘CONs and colleges on a variety of Information Security subjects. His life story can be found on Google under “Jayson E. Street” *He is a highly carbonated speaker who has partaken of Pizza from Beijing to Brazil. He does not expect anybody to still be reading this far but if they are please note he was chosen as one of Time’s persons of the year for 2006. ;-)
Twitter: @jaysonstreet

[@TradieTrev]

This dude is passionate!

[@svenhoek]

Tradie Trev yep - until he looks death in the eye. Then I'd bet his tune changes real fast.

[@CGoody564]

death is a part of life. stop your anecdotal nonsense

[@leberkassemmel]

But i love him. He is so right!

[@William.Shakespeare]

search his name . he is always awesome even when he is more low keyed.

[@elcidbob]

Because he's a salesman selling the shit out of what he does.

[@kuro5hin420]

This is one of the best talks I have ever seen Jayson give, and I am a huge Jayson E Street fanboy so I have seen everything of his that is available. He is passionate about what he is talking about in a way that not many people are. Fantastic points made. As a great man once said, "Fool me once, shame on you...........Fooler can't get fooled again." It is our fault now. We need to be more engaged and open and drop this bullshit image of the "cool kids" hackers, because the real deal is so much better and more interesting than any one sided character the movies or the media can come up with.

[@William.Shakespeare]

nice

[@artissilinevics1483]

Im not an American but still as a part of the so called western world if you can stand on a big stage talking bad about your country and not be thrown in a jail afterwards it allready means that the country is going in the right direction in the sence of freedom of the word. Cheers

[@DrFumesta]

Sure, but at some point, it's just seditious treason and should not be tolerated anymore.

[@tigr8787]

He is basically the angry doctor who of hackers

[@Q5Grafx]

hes Robert Redford in Sneakers

[@Brandiwell]

Penalties for hacking are not more severe than the ones for physical violence because the concept of the former is "newer". It's because it involves a financial threat. Compare penalties for financial crimes with those for violent ones. Same disparity, really. In the end, money is what motivates the strength of the punishment.

[@Q5Grafx]

dont you get it the courts are a business themselves. the punishments are more severe because they dont want anyone thinking about subverting their power. just imagine the information that could be gained by hacking just one courthouse and they know their only protection is that they can throw you under the prison. im sorry but im an eye for an eye kinda guy and to me for murder, rape or pedophelia there should only be one sentence and that would be take the motherfucker out behind the court charge the bullet to his families estate and blow the motherfucker away, whereas i touch your data you get to touch mine, no harm no foul. but if this were the norm all that slave labor the courts and jails get out of those rapists and murderers would be cut to 0.

[@ShroudedWolf51]

Yes, I'm sure that Aaron Swartz committed such a hideous crime by downloading articles from a place he had a subscription to to warrant millions of dollars in fines and severe jail time. You know, the crime that is effectively the equivalent of checking out too many books from the library. How does that pose a "financial threat"?

[@joelalain]

when he showed the sentences of hacker vs killers and rapers, that was shocking

[@elcidbob]

Hackers can affect money. Murderers and rapists don't.

[@lancenorthey1282]

2 year old postvid but had the idea. Since its an issue of public awareness and informing, A common solution you see is ratings on products and snippets of info on packaging on issues. Maybe there could be a defcon rating for businesses or products like food safe rating stickers or sustainably grown coffee beans etc...

[@thandobooi8168]

awsome talk jayson but still feel like u should visit South Africa

[@joeyfroey7627]

Great speech.

[@yohaha]

Jayson, you have to remember governments would punish those they fear the most. So yes, the punishments to hackers would only be more and more harsh as time goes on.

[@Solid_Fuel]

BUT! dathat dosent mean that they should be allowed to do that!

[@deanvangreunen6457]

No!

[@JayElloso]

Definitely one of the best talks! This guy is my hero.

[@lancenorthey1282]

I’m bad, and that’s good. I will never be good, and that’s not bad. There’s no one I’d rather be than me.

[@hellokutty54]

He said he went to the coptic area of Cairo. I am Coptic ❤

[@eendikschaap7547]

As a biological entity our body likes to conserve resources. One way of doing that is using patterns instead of actively thinking. If a ball is heading for your face, you will by instinct evade, because that's much more energy efficient than thinking about trajectories and calculating an appropriate move. These days we're working at least 8 hours a day + travel to and from the job, we're getting paid shit ... ... ... most people can't afford "to think" and just like any propaganda, this is on purpose. Instead of waking people up, they are spreading BS so we can all sleep well. I'm not running if everything burns down, I'm the guy bringing the marshmallows.

[@bigun89]

Fantastic talk

[@MeowMeowDeathRay]

You need to give short pauses for messages to sink in in speeches, not necessarily waiting for claps. Though there are a couple of those moments i agree.

[@leberkassemmel]

Not expecting people to clap. You need pauses in your speeches for your words to sink into the listeners mind.

[@rootbar8277]

great talk - beginning is boring but gets better by the minute.

[@kylemccarter4211]

Could someone tell me or show me what there taking about at the end with Cisco and blackhat?

[@kylemccarter4211]

Thanks, I'm still a little lost and I think im missing some of the context, any chance you can explain?

[@kylemccarter4211]

Thanks, finally had the epiphany. I was missing the fact that they were selling used equipment. If I had been there Id of probably burned the booth down.

[@CGoody564]

unless everyone is a virgn, there is nothing offensive about it. this community needs to get a thicker skin and grow up. "Waaaaah a hot girl in an ad that's gotten laid before? my feelings hurt." she got paid for the ad and chose to be on it. fuck your feelings. rights don't end where your feelings begin. sex sells, and if you don't like the ad, don't purchase their shit. having it removed is the same censorship that this community claims to fight. fucking pathetic.

[@CGoody564]

Rex2k10 agreed as i stated above

[@Crushonius]

feminism ruins everything including hackers

[@William.Shakespeare]

romance of the 3 kingdoms IX still have it XD awesome game.

[@Anvilshock]

As usual, the mic tech is utter shite at those conferences. No HPF, no compressor, no pop filter that actually does something … can't even call those people amateurs because that would be an insult to amateurs.

[@spacepirateivynova]

but... but... ghandi was a bit of a racist. Maybe more than a bit... ok, i get the message. Just had to be a jackwagon :)

[@TRMI221]

55:32 is my new code of life

[@andrewstoker3439]

Nice Rant.

[@PacificNW326]

starts at 11:55

[@mistercrimesb]

Croatia sponsoring the attack? LUL they only sponsor Thompsons concerts and their own asses.

[@WadeWoodring]

Come be my friend, Mr. Ninja. Please

[@bboollll]

used to be a admin on the good old irc chats here in sweden and yep that part at 51min is damn true. tho not fbi agents but admins on the 14yo. xD

[@nilshalvorsen9541]

Lonley Gaming lär mig 😝

[@CodeCorruptor]

This dude is annoying as hell

[@svenhoek]

Liberal poster child right here

[@clankplusm]

ngl i did get some left leaning vibes but this dude is ok imo. at least he understands the first amendment lmao

[@LuckyImExil]

Like #69... I feel kinda dirty right now. I like it.

[@samiraperi467]

Third degree burns on 50% of the body, from one cup of coffee? Bullshit. Lost my interest at that point.

[@finfan7]

The 50% thing was a silly exaggeration but the rest of it was pretty much right. She did have 3rd degree burns and did require skin grafts. (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants#Burn_incident)

[@CKNDE]

Samira Peri he said 15

[@Brakvash]

What else would you expect from someone with paper-thin skin other than 3rd degree burns?

[@jezykwkosmosie]

Yeah, but since he said "fifteen" you lost the interest because you made something up.