Defence called in as cracks start to show in Labor's border security

[@WalJames]

Having to ask the same question 8 times is ridiculous for people employed at this level. These people know exactly what the Senator wants to know & are deliberately refusing to answer. The contempt displayed by these bureaucrats for the Senator is well on display.

[@Nathan-ry3yu]

It's good the senator ask in different ways for the same question. I find it strange the ADF required more ships for border force though Shouldn't it be Border force requiring the vessels then? The ADF is supposed to be for our strategic maritime defence not for people smugglers.That's boarder force job. It seems the government don't want to recruit more boarder force staff. And they filling the position with ADF staff. It isn't good strategy for ADF. It takes the focus of the environment they need to be focused on. China had long range hypersonic missiles for over a decade now. And has every single military base city and town in Australia in range all the way from the spartly Islands in the south China sea. When the defence review don't make any sense as it don't give Australia greater capability. No extra platforms to deliver the longer strike missiles type the government has ordered. It's an improvement but not a capability as we don't have the additional eqwipment to bring enough of the new weaponry in range to defend and strike back except a very few platforms that's undergunned AWDs . And haven to Wait a whole decade away for the other Nuclear powerd submarines. The Hunter class frigates is also a decade away and still undergunned. Not enough VLS cells to carry enough defensive weaponry to bring a capability. No aircraft carrier either and no long range bomber. And ADF is taken on boarder force roles? Australia must be a laughing stock to the world.

[@dazaspc]

@@Nathan-ry3yu Australia is suffering from the affects of a long term Liberal and National party government. All of these complaints are about practice and structure set up under the direction of the Liberal/National party government. Dam shame they didn't care enough to do it properly when they set it up. This BS half assed useless bureaucracy is a direct result of their own guidelines and is spread throughout government. This sort of mess takes a while to be fixed correctly, unplanned reaction policy and actions have short comings this is a classic display of such.

[@nuggetella]

​@@Nathan-ry3yu Agh, since well before Jesus Christ was nailed to a cross, war's have brought prosperity to tyrants, choose your children's destiny wisely... 🤙 👉😷💉

[@shutthegate8232]

They should be given 2 chances to answer the question. If they fail on the 3rd time, it should be instant arrest, charges and tried for failing in their duty to the people of Australia. All are serving the people, the people must be served, else jail them all. Don't like it, get out of the frying pan. Pathetic these people squirming around questions all the time. Lock them all up. The same has happened with questions to the bankers, all the questions re: covid attack on the people of Australia & more. It's disgusting.

[@chaffcutter58.]

​@@shutthegate8232yep

[@userllt55]

This is a matter for Australian taxes payers to know were our money is going.... thank you for questions Mr Patterson

[@onewiselady6412]

Hmmm 🤔 Don’t think your going to like this very much then lol The I.T.R. (Institute of Taxation Research) has now received irrefutable proof (through an exhaustive Freedom of Information Act search), that the Australian Taxation Office was never officially gazetted in 1973 at its formation. Legally, therefore, the A.T.O. does not exist! A barrister in Sydney presented this information to a Judicial Registrar who was hearing a liquidation proceeding. The Registrar adjourned the case immediately, after appearing "visibly shaken". Only a matter of hours later, an airline pilot who is in the Federal Court in Melbourne, against the A.T.O., was contacted by solicitors representing that august body, and informed that they were not proceeding with the case. I wonder why? I quote from an earlier F.O.I. Act request asking for "certified copies of the documents that establish the Australian Taxation Office". In response, Mr. R. J. Tomkins, (A.T.O. Solicitor), reports: "With regards the creation of the Australian Taxation Office (A.T.O.), I was able to ascertain that the A.T.O was created as a branch of the Commonwealth Public Service by an executive instrument in 1973. Officers of the Commonwealth Public Service are assigned to the A.T.O and the Commissioner of Taxation is put in charge of those Officers by section 25(4) of the Public Service Act 1922. "An extensive search of the A.T.O. library and records management system failed to identify any document relevant to this part of your request. Similarly, enquiries to the Commissioner's Office, People and Structures Branch, The Delegations and Authorisations Officer and the Parliamentary Business Unit did not identify any document. "On the advice of the Australian Government Solicitor's Office, I contacted the Office of the Official Secretary to the Governor-General in an attempt to identify, and obtain a copy of the executive instrument. This office referred me to the Federal Executive Council who then suggested I contact Australian Archives. A detailed search by all offices failed to locate the relevant document. "Accordingly, I am obliged in terms of section 24A of the Act to deny access to this part of your application on the grounds that I was not able to locate the requested document". It was from this original F.O.I. Act request, that the I.T.R. was eventually able to identify that the A.T.O. was never legally formed, and therefore, has been illegally illiciting taxes since its formation! The I.T.R. takes the view that all the tax laws in the country are illegal anyway, (under an illegal Constitution), and that therefore, taxes are voluntary." www.righttoknow.org.au/request/information_to_assist_my_request Whoopsie 🥴

[@nuggetella]

​@@onewiselady6412 Taxes are not enforceable, unless the individual accepts responsibility for a debt generated by false authority... It's extortion of biblical proportions... 🤙 👉😷💉

[@lesleyosborne9319]

Thankyou Senator. KEEP them ACCOUNTABLE. You are Doing a GREAT JOB.!

[@grabbag3307]

You know that you have hit the mark when the Labor party member steps in to shut down the questioning!

[@nuggetella]

Liberal or Labor, both are the same beast in body... 🤙

[@emilykalafatis3107]

​@@nuggetella Agree 💯

[@dirkdiggler9174]

Don’t you just love the arrogant look on all the people who come to answer questions as if to say I don’t answer to You… and you can get stuffed . Like why are we even bothering with this nonsense if answers aren’t given swift and prompt and with respect as like they’re answering to the Australian public . It just disgusting

[@ronmurray4191]

CDF to be clear, you are the head of the Defence Force. If you can't answer these questions, I suggest you retire and let someone who is capable of answering the questions!

[@wyattfamily8997]

They rae so busy holding the REAL soldiers "accountabel" they can't do the jobs they are supposed to do.

[@lancelot0007]

And strip him of his medals too. Happy to take $1million + per year of taxpayers money and then to through his subordinates too the wolves. That alone is discussing.

[@Nathan-ry3yu]

He's only a Muppet for Canberra. He has to watch his tongue. Or they will sack him. Angus wouldn't know a dam thing about serving he shot at trees in his early years and he's been pushing pens since till he become chief of defence. Angus got the job because he's Canberra bum boy. Angus wouldn't know what the Chinese even have till some US admiral gave him a reality check. His response we will buy some extra long range missile. It don’t matter about the platforms for it. No long range bomber no aircraft carrier no more destroyers. Just a few new subs taking up a 3rd of defence budget and rearrange eqwipment so Army has less capability she be right? Albo I like Angus he saved us money. Can we defend though. Angus No we will lose them all. Albo but has the little illusion worked. Yes. Many people think we invincible for a few extra few hundred km range missile. Albo why won't it work though. Angus you will have to ask a real soldier for that information. I only strip medals and follow your orders sir. Albo. That's a good Muppet.

[@S.M.E.A.C]

When you get past Brigadier you are no longer a soldier,you are a hand picked beaurocrat. There's only so many positions available in the upper echelons and if you don't tow the Government line then you'll hit your ceiling rank pretty quick,never to go further. If you really want to know what's going on in the ADF you ask a Sergeant or Warrant Officer,not these plebs.

[@a-b-c123]

CDF lacking indeed...also to receive a dsc don't you have to be on the field of battle?

[@ashley2108]

Wow! Notice how uncomfortable they were about these questions. Even to the extent of crossing arms (self Soothing). Definitely something going on here that made them extremely uncomfortable. Further investigation is definitely required. Who is this Senator that is actually doing his job?????

[@paddlesmcbean2366]

Senator Patterson. He does this a lot and is very good.

[@leeyoung4283]

someone that we need to let know we appreciate him changeling these twitter

[@nuggetella]

One day, sheople will open their eyes... 👉😷💉

[@a-b-c123]

unless I'm mistaken angus campbell was awarded a dsc despite NOT being on the actual field of battle...

[@tonganqueenb5517]

Classified information is privy to only certain members of government such as the Cabinet. It's the Senators job to understand that.

[@Andrew-dc2xj]

Thank you to Senator Paterson for delving into important matters. Please keep it up.

[@brucejohnston3521]

every time you get a ridiculous response you should be able to put a dunce hat on them and stand facing the wall FFS

[@stevenkorezelidis804]

Mr Paterson you are a breath of fresh air thankyou.

[@Peter_Thorpe]

Shame on Labor for letting Terrorists in our country

[@leopoldpoppenberger8692]

they are learning from the ice cream liker.

[@Ambrolite]

Thank you for your work Senator James Paterson. Very nice questioning.

[@crikey6981]

Good line of questions. Well followed through.

[@russellcullen9913]

Ask stuip questions you get stupid answers.

[@maniacalmoz]

When it became clear the jokers weren't going to answer his original question, I can't understand why the senator didn’t just ask, "how many boats have entered Australia's border last year?" And then "How many boats entered Australia's border this year?" and then "how many boats were turned around both years?" And then "how many illegal immigrants have been detained each year?" If you ask direct questions that they should know the answer to, but refuse to answer, the Senator should then petition the parliament to remove them from their position due to loss of confidence in their ability to perform.

[@leopoldpoppenberger8692]

no wonder no one wants to enlist in that farce

[@gavan4138]

Legit

[@nuggetella]

Don't send bombs or troops into foreign conflicts, than those foreign populations have less desire to flee... 🤙

[@em_d]

Just like the U.S. deliberate dishonesty and blatant obfuscation of information in a bid to hide the truth from the people. Open borders to create cheaper labor and a stronger voting base. We are being lied to. Next comes a digital currency, a centralised bank, a vax passport and a carbon footprint.

[@woodrow60]

I thinks he is continuing to gather information through questions on notice arising from this process.

[@juliamclachlan1836]

Thank you Senator Paterson for diligently trying to keep these grifters honest.

[@shutthegate8232]

They should be given 2 chances to answer the question. If they fail on the 3rd time, it should be instant arrest, charges and tried for failing in their duty to the people of Australia. All are serving the people, the people must be served, else jail them all. Don't like it, get out of the frying pan. Pathetic these people squirming around questions all the time. Lock them all up. The same has happened with questions to the bankers, all the questions re: covid attack on the people of Australia & more. It's disgusting.

[@spartan5921]

I commend Senator J Paterson for his diligence, patience and common sense whilst dealing with the likes of these types of trained liars. The fact that the question is so simple and yet these so called Officers of our Australian Armed Forces treat him with contempt, disdain and childish like rhetoric by referring to somebody who is not there. When a budget is blown out by ten million in just a few months, Defence thinks it can get away with it, because they are a law unto themselves. Someone mentioned using the defence personnel on border protection, this is not new and has been going on for over a decade or more. Our Patrol boats are just that, they patrol our northern waters. There is no threat from anyone but the USA, as Henry Kissinger said, "To be the Enemy of the USA is dangerous, To be an Ally of the USA is FATAL". Think carefully about this and look at what is going on in the world, look who requires a violent response to everything...Then look at the dumb asses that always follow. I thought like the diggers of 1915, years of training and now I can try out my skills, a great adventure. Thanks to our PM at the time Howard, we followed the USA and Invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, I did some rotations in both in the early days. Was I wrong...I learned the truth, the lies we were told, and I paid the price. I don't sleep properly, I have damaged internal organs, parts of my lag replaced, and worst of all, I live with it every day. I see what the USA did to the people there. We do not need anything from them, Australia will do fine if we work with our regional neighbours. FTUSA.

[@jeffreystorer4966]

Any yet for 80 million a year we can't even save Australian fish from Indonesian fishing pirates,,but Aussie boats we inspect at every boat ramp onshore

[@svensshed1564]

CDF is asking the Air Vice Marshall to comment on a Navy matter. Our defence force is in so much trouble

[@gregcooks-qr9wk]

It’s always been Labor to stuff up our military 80 billion on submarines that don’t work.

[@Anniegrace3]

Thank you Senator.

[@vernonwhite4660]

Dodgy service personel Evasion their stratagy to answering questions

[@jayrecard2742]

These People are entrenched. The questions, no matter how succinct simply fall on deaf ears

[@lynxau]

Thankyou Senator Paterson

[@sandybottom6623]

They are not answering the question. They are not on top of their jobs. Very concerning.

[@WannabeDough]

At least the chief of defence can read from the website word for word.

[@peterk2455]

He likely has the medal for that.

[@mrgillagorilla]

Stop all money going to them. Until they answer all questions. To the Australian people. All we see is corruption.

[@birtlee2078]

CDF - shocking performance! Not across his brief!😊

[@TheAussieOutdoorBlokes]

How is this man in control of our defence force?

[@jamesplummer356]

This bloke is in charge of defence? WTF

[@leopoldpoppenberger8692]

I'll call my great grand mother to take over of this pig sty. Oh my god they suppose to defend us? I say fire the lot.

[@Nathan-ry3yu]

Why many people won't join. He's a Muppet. Cartoons has more reality than his defence posture review.

[@scorp2011hd]

Doesn’t seem to be a bloke🤔👩

[@martinwhatley6512]

This is the reason the CDF needs to be sacked. Continues to pass the buck and refuses to act like a real leader and answer questions honestly.

[@greghunter5703]

They don’t like answering questions Because they just don’t know

[@stevenkorezelidis804]

yep right clear as MUD good one General thanks got it.

[@downrightdisturbed]

I must admit though, yes these ships are multi-purpose vessels, it would be difficult to breakdown the operational cost for specific objectives when they perform many at once. That being said, i would have thought that the increase in ships demand could have been attributed to the increase in regional tension or specifically, China's influence being projected more aggressively into our theatre. The only other question i have is: Given the size of Australia, and the vast amount of ocean surrounding, why is there so few ships patrolling/protecting our borders?

[@Nathan-ry3yu]

Australia government and ADF continue to deny growth of platforms needed to defend. Not enough ships such as destroyers. No aircraft carrier to give our fighter jets long strike capability. No long range bombers. Till they fix these issues ADF would not be able to defend itself. The long range missile they have ordered has given ADF a few hundred km strike capability. For the type of ships Australia has and so far required to replace don't have enough missile cells to give the ships enough protection missiles and offensive missiles to sustain any major conflict in our region if it was to happen.

[@Janna773]

Good question. 🚢

[@peterleversha9651]

Radar and satellite surveillance. It's not necessary to patrol areas unless there's a direct threat. You can also sink a ship from land pretty easily.

[@Heisthelightoftheworld]

A lack of finance, planning and white papers written to presumably overcome this lack of resources being shelved until another party asks for another white paper.

[@ladymanners618]

"How do I answer this without telling Sentor Paterson anything, or answering to the ALP minister later if I do". Senator Paterson you have the patience of Job. Thank you. For all of our sakes I'm glad that it was eventually agreed that "8" is a larger number than "5".

[@jasonfranich5601]

These clowns are just like NASA Never a straight answer Thank you for your Questioning Senator

[@lezley888]

Excellent question. Dribble dribble we dont know answer, or care.

[@johnlloyd5337]

Any wonder defence is a basket case at the moment. Under this current leadership team, it is quite clear why seasoned soldiers are leaving defence in unsustainable numbers. CDF needs seek opportunities elsewhere outside of defence.

[@mrgillagorilla]

Do they work for us Australian's or government ? If it's government SHOP them now this is tresion to the people of Australia.

[@ritaloitz719]

Senator, once again, I admire your work. And I will not post what I really think about those you have in front of you. Please continue !👍

[@billogle4776]

Does Capbell get another medal for his appearance here

[@bigman23DOTS]

Nah they just take medal off them ,…. These days

[@jefftysoutube]

Just a charade when air arrivals are now the main problem. Much of the costs would be eliminated if we were able to return any unwanted arrival but this is prevented by all the UN Conventions that we wrongly signed and our courts willingness to uphold them. Up to date statistics on illegal arrivals are not available?

[@marylou3995]

Labor solution to broader problems,is let them all come in as migrants- only 6000 of them. And I think it’s time for Angus Campbell to go.

[@geob8172]

Australian Border Farce.

[@mickboyce386]

Rule #1 don't dob in the boss for their bad decisions.

[@birtlee2078]

CDF is clueless - get rid of Campbell!

[@wayneappleby5763]

Campbell should have been gone long ago, he is a woke waste of space

[@scorp2011hd]

Woke clowns 🤡

[@susanzhang5634]

ADF is not honest😮. They refused to answer questions.

[@gardenwaster]

Just be done with it and say you can't recall

[@woodrow60]

The CDF doesn’t want to say that people smugglers are trying it on heavily following the election of a Labor government. Senator Paterson will keep probing.

[@tadeuszmichaelwlodarczyk3120]

Paterson your the man give them Hell

[@geoffballe8766]

A complete disgrace, typical bureaucratic failure of overpaid bureaucracy

[@turningpointaustralia9531]

Agenda is to destroy Australian race & culture..... Where I live we had more than 30000 none English speaking new immigrants in the past 9 years, none attended English courses or try to learn to speak English yet all are on welfare

[@robb0178]

So a few years ago a young IO from one of the RFSU’s asked border force what the contingency plane was for any boats coming south of Christmas Island’s he was told that that will NEVER happen, two weeks later there’s two boats in Perth.

[@maniacalmoz]

This defence guy should be a politician with all the obfuscation and circumlocution rhetoric he's employing in "answering" this question!

[@olivegrove2615]

He is, I bet the ALP have lined up a cushy seat for him when he finally retires from the ADF.

[@M77982]

The CDF makes me sick

[@dfor50]

With the immigration doors thrown wide open there's no need for people smugglers anymore.

[@Birch37]

Where is the Navy representative?

[@harrycopeland8322]

I have watched a number of these budget grillings by Sen Paterson and he is getting the same response. People have no idea what their budgets are required for. They obviously prepare estimates for their budgets, so they should be able to enunciate why they asked for the funds in the first place and why they requested extra funding. It should be in writing somewhere and these are experienced people who should know this information. Astounding!!!

[@birtlee2078]

Campbell is becoming a Labour patsy!

[@ichibot-app]

Why are we wasting money on boats when we have such a large area to monitor, and should be pouring money into drones?

[@LA-fb6pw]

I love it these are your people but you can't talk to what your people are doing. That is afgan right their. His people but absolutely no accountability. This here shows you why Campbell should be charged for neglecting duty of care to the troops under him.

[@nigelmorgan3449]

I see you’ve still wearing your medals weren’t you the man sending them into battle and who are the bureaucrats what’s there job besides lying to the taxpayer and lying to the public

[@mrgillagorilla]

Jail him for misleading the people who pay him.

[@struanmcgrath1619]

Smugglers know when labors in, surfs up.

[@Mister_Holdsworth]

Never known Angus to be some war hero so what are all those medals on his chest for?

[@rhyssanders9122]

he was a squadron commander in the SAS and went to Timor with 2rar and was in charge of all australian forces in the middle east at one point, so

[@Mister_Holdsworth]

@@rhyssanders9122 But never a war hero. Bootlicker for sure but certainly no hero.

[@rhyssanders9122]

@@Mister_Holdsworth alright man

[@axle.australian.patriot]

Labor has to make up immigration numbers from somewhere lol

[@iakg1777]

as usual we are being robbed blind by the filth that rules us.

[@mrgillagorilla]

Does this man have any idea.

[@gondwanatravels8834]

Sack the traitor in uniform .

[@davemanning6424]

No need to worry folk's , Angus Campbell's on the job ! 😂😂😂

[@lizjohnston3446]

Thanks Mr Patterson for keeping us safe. Cause these jokers are too busy..

[@pacomacaw2456]

Loving these direct questions and non-answers.

[@UbuteyAustralia]

Campbells a laughing stock and needs to be sacked 👎👎👎

[@RobertLewis-el9ub]

The officials are 'apolitical' - the government MP sitting at the bench should have clarified government intentions far earlier in the questioning process.

[@Mark-vd4gg]

I suspect the deliberate obfuscation by the defence people was at the behest of the Minister seeking to hide the facts. Its a charade. Many thanks to our Senator for Queensland for his dogged pursuit of the truth.

[@ashleyshipp8340]

Yes and James was involved in terrible spending choices for 9 years and it seems hypocritical he asks questions relating to expenditure.

[@Justin-iu9ih]

Sir the popution system u dont now it do you,,,wheres the extra coils on civilion pump whats this sir the govgot it of franch 24 other wise wheres booster on pump navy didnt steal it as they would have booster magnetics

[@ronaldparker6726]

Incompadance at its best. ffs!

[@garthphillips1]

The sooner Campbell is sacked the better off the ADF will be!!!(((

[@johnmitchell2094]

CODSWALLOP, NOTHING MORE & NOTHING LESS!

[@shanecoble1325]

James ask them about the patrol boat fleet !

[@mrgillagorilla]

Not very smart, are they.

[@deanhunter1753]

Ask Bossi about this adf chief

[@gerrardstones4246]

It takes time to get demons in to the light.....iam a stack holder

[@billhanna8838]

We dont know what we are spending millions on but we got it last year so we want it this year ?????

[@desbell7431]

They are not very forthcoming or just simple 🤷‍♂️

[@rickkinsman7400]

So, to find the solutions to the problems they call in the idiots who caused the problems. Smart move!

[@LA-fb6pw]

What a joke he just reads off the mission statement. The question is what data was used in the analysis for building the 23-24 budget. Lead lag indicators what are they.

[@Nathan-ry3yu]

He's only a Canberra Muppet.

[@garage3119]

The men in his platoon in 1987 in 3 RAR couldnt stand this peanut. As a jnr officer he was a clown. Good to see he hasnt changed.

[@AJ-fe8om]

Contrary to the Senator’s suspicions the increase is actually due to the polis fleeing lockdowns.

[@forreal76]

Australia has 25,000km of beaches/perimeter surrounding Australia 15,000 Nvy...15,000 Air force... We need to increase our Navy x 20 to ensure we cover our waters and detour illegal immagration and drug smuggling. The Air force needs to be increased x 10 to assist the Navy and keep our land assets safe. We have muppets running the Defence force and the Government.

[@tonyscrimshaw869]

The Labor should be sacked by the GG for what they have done to our National Security

[@ronaldparker6726]

whenCHINA INVADES i already have a Chinees flag and the. RAINBOW FLAG .

[@jameswright2974]

NeXT military Stores will have lipstick high heels Earrings in the sore rooms to appease the Trans soldiers or sailors😱🤮🇺🇸🇬🇧👑🤮💄💋when they go on furlough

[@Nathan-ry3yu]

They will shoot you for the rainbow flag. It the ADF and Australian government that loves the rainbow flag

[@juliamclachlan1836]

What an absolute run around full of evasion . This is a disgrace .

[@celluskh6009]

I was wondering whether Campbell was just stonewalling at the start, when he was saying he didn't know what or why the officers under his command were doing, but by the end I started to wonder whether he even knew where he was. I think it's time he went out to pasture, rather than hold one of the most important posts in the country.

[@desbell7431]

They don't like answering do they 😂

[@crouchingwombathiddenquoll5641]

Wonder how much it costs to cruise up and down the Taiwan straight as directed by uncle Sam ?

[@aggressivecalm]

Significantly less than having our country, and Australian democracy ‘moderated’ by the in perpetuum equitable, honest, humane, and rational People Liberation Army.

[@maniacalmoz]

🤣lol! You think we live in a democracy! 🤣😂 rofl! You think Australia is sovereign, and not controlled by the largest terrorist organisation in the world...the U.S.A!

[@jonfoxtrot5135]

His wife is the gender equality ambassador, which results in people gaining employment and positions based on gender not merit.

[@IDraganM]

And yet, with all the efforts I do believe some sand is missing. Sad to see that so much effort and money is invested and ispite of fierce fighting against the evil enemy (insert one if you find it here) we lost some sand, rumors are even some leaves floated away. interesting to see that terrorism still exists, most of us forget about it due to the lack of news about it. I do admit the other day whan I looked at map of Australia, the border lines on the sea were not there. Clearly enemy is activly erasing them. I wonder, when they talk about 77.5 or 82....is it cents or dollars? Surely it is not cents when they measure decimal points? Do not tell me it is millions or billions? It is definitely good to have army and navy, it might be even better if we knew what they are doing, where and for who's benefit.

[@tonyscrimshaw869]

The GG should also be sacked because she was appointed by a incompetent PM of this nation. They have made jobs for themselves without any thought to the security of forward vision of this nation

[@glenh1369]

Get ready for the boats people. Labor is at it again...never fail to let it happen, even though Australian voters continuously let the politicians knows we dont want it!