DEFEND THE THRONE but my friend tries to seize it! Fire Emblem PVP #4 w/ OfficialJugg

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Mekkah

Mekkah

Күн бұрын

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@OfficialJugg
@OfficialJugg 3 жыл бұрын
Was a blast to be on! Although I haven't uploaded fe content in a while, I still love the community and hope this video brings a smile to your face!
@syruscoy1244
@syruscoy1244 7 ай бұрын
You big dumdum giving up the steelbow from the boss
@littleduck3686
@littleduck3686 3 жыл бұрын
This mod really goes to show how borderline invincible Marcus, Hector and Oswin are.
@JoeEmber776
@JoeEmber776 3 жыл бұрын
& also how gods awful the enemy units in fe7 are
@hazelv.a.7976
@hazelv.a.7976 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoeEmber776 wasn't everyone killed last chapter? By said enemies
@JoeEmber776
@JoeEmber776 3 жыл бұрын
@@hazelv.a.7976 because of the way that they were used. It still took well over 50 units just to kill a few bad units
@hawkeye611
@hawkeye611 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoeEmber776 There's not even close to 50 enemies on that map.
@Delby5
@Delby5 3 жыл бұрын
My last fe7 play through oswin capped every stat but res and magic dude was basically a god.
@windmage0168
@windmage0168 3 жыл бұрын
It's like a seize map for the enemy.
@posthistoricdino422
@posthistoricdino422 3 жыл бұрын
imagine being bartre and having a tent be faster than you
@jollykirby2138
@jollykirby2138 3 жыл бұрын
bahahahahah. i chuckled at this comment.
@holycannoli0
@holycannoli0 3 жыл бұрын
Just raise the point per win to something like 5 and each kill is worth 1 point for the enemy. Cause a 5-character death win would basically be a pyrrhic victory for the player.
@johnathanera5863
@johnathanera5863 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm. Probably a better and more elegant solution than mine.
@FrostCrispz
@FrostCrispz 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe 3 points for wins, and 1 for each kill.
@visualnovelvillage1781
@visualnovelvillage1781 3 жыл бұрын
Have you considered a permadeath rule with stocks? Say, once a character dies 3 times, they are gone for good. This could pull up the tension and make each kill more meaningful for the enemy team player.
@lanceareadbhar
@lanceareadbhar 3 жыл бұрын
I like this idea going forward.
@cornesalvo9366
@cornesalvo9366 3 жыл бұрын
I suggest 2 stocks, because killing a very important tanky unit like a paladin would be quite difficult to do 3 times.
@CaptainCFalcon
@CaptainCFalcon 3 жыл бұрын
@@cornesalvo9366 well the stocks can be equivalent to their worth. Marcus only gets 1 or 2, & the more useless units (like lowen) get 2, 3, or maybe even 4 (because he's already died 3 times lmao)
@Xeconis
@Xeconis 3 жыл бұрын
The Bismix "I've been defeated!" LMAO
@PGerman.
@PGerman. 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to implement the "Kills give points system" then maybe make every kill 1 point, and retroactively change the points you get from winning a chapter to 3 or 5 points
@lanceareadbhar
@lanceareadbhar 3 жыл бұрын
A kill would be worth 0.2 points then. 0.1 points per kill sounds fairer assuming the opponent still gets a point when they win in addition to the 0.1 points per kill.
@moshmosh26
@moshmosh26 3 жыл бұрын
great series! Mekkah should explain at the end of each chapter what his strategy would have been as red player
@marcelogaldino5181
@marcelogaldino5181 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Mekkkah
@Mekkkah 3 жыл бұрын
My strategy for this one would've been to try and bring as many red units to the open bottom as possible. Kill everyone but the three unkillables + Eliwood, and then hopefully kill Eliwood who I assume goes on the throne. But it'd be really difficult since there's only 7 turns to do it.
@BeastFormal
@BeastFormal 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mekkkah I thought the same thing, Jugg played too much like an ai and didn’t use his massive numbers to his advantage.
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 3 жыл бұрын
@@BeastFormal What do you expect from the enemy AI anyways?
@crobatman4448
@crobatman4448 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that this hector is so bad is arguably one of the funniest parts of the series so far,i can't wait for eliwood with higher str.
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 3 жыл бұрын
Higher Str? His Eliwood didn't even get to kill anything.
@TaismoFanBoy
@TaismoFanBoy 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that this hector is so bad and is still LITERALLY UNKILLABLE is definitely hilarious.
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 3 жыл бұрын
@@TaismoFanBoy THIS Hector is actually the best incarnation for this PvP Fire Emblem rin. High Def to guard Eliwood/Lyn and Low Str to feed kills and choke points.
@MarceloKatayama
@MarceloKatayama 3 жыл бұрын
@@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx He doesn't need to feed kills though. It's better to just snowball with Oswin, Hector, Marcus and MAYBE Lowen.
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarceloKatayama Lowen's dying a lot but he's good always good as an expendable.
@anonanon6764
@anonanon6764 3 жыл бұрын
Come on Red Team, you can do it! Marcus is like Darth Vader to them, whispered in terror around their campfires
@spirix2067
@spirix2067 3 жыл бұрын
"He's called Sealen but he's not on a boat" is probably one of the best quotes I've ever heard today
@duwangduwang4153
@duwangduwang4153 3 жыл бұрын
Ever heard today
@spirix2067
@spirix2067 3 жыл бұрын
@@duwangduwang4153 tbf I'm still watching the video as of writing this comment (and have found equally good quotes along the way)
@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa
@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa 2 жыл бұрын
"This quote is the best one I've heard in 3 minutes" Hahaha!
@TheMadRedHatter
@TheMadRedHatter 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why I thought this was either 0% growths or negative % growths. Maybe I was looking at Hector’s strength.
@Veryslightlymad
@Veryslightlymad 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, someone in the comments mentioned instead of permadeath like FE, maybe an injury system like Fell Seal---meaning, if you lose a unit on the map, you can use them in the future, just not the -very next map-. That might make things a bit more fair. As it stands, the "CPU" team is hoping that it'll snowball at the end of the game, which, if it does, then that's no fun. If Mekkah "wins" a late game map badly enough, then he's screwed for the rest of the game.
@myzelf99
@myzelf99 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite series I've seen in a while. I get so excited when I see another one uploaded.
@sonicthehedge
@sonicthehedge 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait until this goes to that "chapter" You know, the chapter where it's to defend a single unit and dies in one round of combat to the boss of the level that has a bolting
@Insulted25
@Insulted25 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that one and the Pent chapter are auto-win for red team
@P3ndaAd3m
@P3ndaAd3m 3 жыл бұрын
The final chapter could be cool :D a Dragon who always do 37 damage :D
@BlueWokou
@BlueWokou 3 жыл бұрын
For doing points based on kills, what if every map was worth 3 points total? That way you could do a system like this: Blue Army fails: 3 points to Red Army Over 50% of Blue Army dies, but Blue Army wins: 2 points to Red Army, 1 point to Blue Army At least 1 member of Blue Army, but less than 50% of Blue Army, dies: 2 points to Blue Army, 1 point to Red Army Blue Army succeeds with 0 casualties: 3 points to Blue Army So like for this map, I think it was Erk, Bartre, and Lowen who died? So that's under 50%, so this would be 2 Blue, 1 Red. But last map I think it was, where like everybody except Marcus, Oswin, Hector, and Eliwood died, it would be 2 Red, 1 Blue. Maybe also change the threshold once Blue Army gets a higher density of really good units, too.
@cocomunga
@cocomunga 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe if someone dies the next chapter they can’t be used? They have to mend their broken bones.
@michaeldavis9807
@michaeldavis9807 3 жыл бұрын
This
@randomderp8457
@randomderp8457 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like giving points for kills is funny but not really in the spirit of things - in later chapters, I'm sure Lyn will be more of a liability and having actually strong enemies with good AI will balance things out. Early game is meant to be easy, after all.
@NovusIgnis
@NovusIgnis 3 жыл бұрын
If Lyn is a liability, then that's your problem as a player. After all, you're supposed to be working with each unit you bring with you, not just handicapping some of them because they're slightly less efficient than you like. After all, I'm not going to get mad at the AI for killing my underleveled florina before she got to recruit her sister. That was my fault for deciding to save that earlier xp for my other units.
@1stCallipostle
@1stCallipostle 3 жыл бұрын
@@NovusIgnis wait People actually allow casualties?
@NovusIgnis
@NovusIgnis 3 жыл бұрын
@@1stCallipostle What do you mean?
@1stCallipostle
@1stCallipostle 3 жыл бұрын
@@NovusIgnis I always have and will be a member of reset gang To me you're not actually meant to accept permadeath (save for in 11), it's meant to be a deterrent to make you play better
@NovusIgnis
@NovusIgnis 3 жыл бұрын
@@1stCallipostle Ohh, I gotcha. Yeah no, for me if a character dies then they die. The only exceptions would be personal favorites. Like, I'll never let Nephenee die cause that's my girl. Then again, I don't think many people are opposed to resetting the chapter and trying again.
@BilliamShagsbere
@BilliamShagsbere 3 жыл бұрын
was losing my mind every time Jugg traded weapons without leaving a weapon in each enemy's inventory felt vindicated at 35:34 where it finally bit him xd cool video, this chapter seems super hard for the enemy player.
@ploppman7524
@ploppman7524 3 жыл бұрын
I think when you replay chapters you should try to make things roughly as they ended up in the vs part. For instance not using/recruiting Guy or Priscilla because they weren't recruited in their respective chapters. Another example is discarding the dragonshield because you didn't get it in this video. Let the people controlling the enemy units make some sort of lasting impact.
@dustinjones7458
@dustinjones7458 3 жыл бұрын
We just need some FE modders to hammer out a real balanced multiplayer campaign, God knows there used to be enough of them.
@rileywm07
@rileywm07 3 жыл бұрын
Then the enemy player could stop the player from getting any item or recruitable character. In a few maps Marcus, Hector, and Oswin won't be invincible anymore.
@EkkieEkk
@EkkieEkk 3 жыл бұрын
Issue with that is that it would be way too easy for the other player to intentionally target a new character or just throw away items for fun
@angrybisharp373
@angrybisharp373 3 жыл бұрын
Aight Subbed just for this series Shits real good
@fall9724
@fall9724 3 жыл бұрын
You get a point for every unit that lives and they get a point for every unit they kill is a fun idea
@worldofstories7159
@worldofstories7159 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, could you have seized the throne on the first turn? If he had the strength and weapon rank as well as a traded Javelin, the top left most soldier probably could have hit that wall with a 6 movement. While he would be unlikely to break the wall, the Nomad would have been able to either break the wall or march through it and instantly take the throne with his 7 movement. Even if that didn't work, it would probably scare the heck out of Mekkah unless he was planning for it and baiting you. Also considering he has some 7 combat units and not all of them can 1 round. If OfficialJugg bum rushed the throne with 8 units without attacking and nobody was on it, then Mekkah would have to waste one unit on the throne, either Marcus or Hector, and the rest on the closest enemies. Though while such a strategy or lack of one sounds good on paper, Mekkah would likely recover fast and you would lose out on later turn offense without reinforcements to replace your Green Units. This is just at a glance though, I haven't played this chapter enough to know.
@nx47
@nx47 3 жыл бұрын
Thought the same thing, the people vsing mekkah aren’t very good at fire emblem 😕
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 Жыл бұрын
​@@nx47either that or its scripted
@Erniee00
@Erniee00 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's right that he can steal XP with Marcus during these and then go back and feed XP to Eliwood.
@seveinmada6927
@seveinmada6927 3 жыл бұрын
15:14 is such a moving scene.
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 3 жыл бұрын
Press F to pay respects.
@alecciarosewater7438
@alecciarosewater7438 3 жыл бұрын
I look forward to this series, please continue~ Just count the number of char deaths so far rather then trying to make it a competitive score
@KilledbyRapid
@KilledbyRapid 3 жыл бұрын
I think both is good
@KilledbyRapid
@KilledbyRapid 3 жыл бұрын
Oh and maybe a stats overview of the characters at the beginning as well that’s edited over the first 30 seconds
@MartinZhouProfile
@MartinZhouProfile 3 жыл бұрын
I think the new rule change is good, but I think it would make the competition more interesting if the rule was changed to "none of the lords can end the turn in a rescued status" instead
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Eliwood should not be rescued. It would be too unfair.
@tehphones
@tehphones 3 жыл бұрын
I thought of a pretty fair rule, you have to deploy the units you use in the 1v1 in the actual maps. I/e you didnt deploy matthew here, no using him to rob chests.
@CaptainCFalcon
@CaptainCFalcon 3 жыл бұрын
Well that's versus actual AI so he doesn't get cheesed out of resources.
@tehphones
@tehphones 3 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainCFalcon you didn't understand. Mekkah chose not to deploy Matthew here, I'm positing that he sticks with the same choice on his replay.
@CaptainCFalcon
@CaptainCFalcon 3 жыл бұрын
@@tehphones I know, & I'm saying it shouldn't matter anyways because the AI are stupid and pose zero challenge, so why would he not get resources offscreen if he's allowed to train up units offscreen?
@Viech54
@Viech54 3 жыл бұрын
I think this map was winnable for the reds. It might've worked if they swarmed the throne room from the top left with the bandits and from the bottom right with all reinforcements before Hector blocked the path. For the units from the top left: They should've ignored the wall and walked to the stairs to the throne room right from the start. Still an interesting battle.
@Mekkkah
@Mekkkah 3 жыл бұрын
I think what it would've come down to is "can red kill Eliwood while he's chilling on the throne".
@Viech54
@Viech54 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mekkkah That and "Can blue surround Eliwood with Hector, Marcus, and Oswin and kill the bow users/mages before they kill Eliwood". I'm sure Hector watched your Radiant Dawn Let's Play and liked Nolan a lot. Nolan is his favorite character. In honor of Nolan, he's determined to be the next noodle arm.
@Viech54
@Viech54 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mekkkah Also, I really like your commentary in the series so far. You and your guests do a great job at making it more interesting and entertaining. Comments like "He's called Sealen but he's not on a boat" make my day.
@Mark-nn2ce
@Mark-nn2ce 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see how Lyn "liability" of Caelin plays in this.
@davidsalinas2918
@davidsalinas2918 3 жыл бұрын
A rule that seems easy and hard to break would be to limit Marcus to 1 range weapons
@elinagel-bennett344
@elinagel-bennett344 3 жыл бұрын
If I’m gonna be honest, the points for kills isn’t the best idea The series isn’t about how hard FE7 Hector Mode is (moderately), it’s about which maps are *possible* when playing against an actual human with a brain. Even if you lose everyone besides the Lords and Tanks, it’s still possible.
@papersonic9941
@papersonic9941 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's also about Mekkah comoeting with his friends. I think it's fair since the maps are designed so that losing units are as much of a lose condition as losing a lord
@charlest3m443
@charlest3m443 3 жыл бұрын
As a possible rule you could make it so that every X number of combats or kills (maybe 5?) Marcus has, the following turn red player can control his move or he just waits in place. Kind of like how there is a cooldown after you use hyper beam in pokemon. That way there is counterplay for such a powerful unit.
@fkchina8574
@fkchina8574 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these fire emblem pvp videos. It’s an awesome idea.
@kimberlyshirley7823
@kimberlyshirley7823 3 жыл бұрын
A points per kill system for the enemy would certainly make each side think more strategically. Moments like the "trade offer" meme are funny, but ultimately feel inconsequential knowing that the unit will be back next map anyway. I'd also find it more interesting than just "who won the map" alone as a statistic. Especially since I, like a lot of players, tend to reset if a character in my army gets killed. Now if you weren't bringing back the characters each map... it'd be cool to see you do a run with one other person controlling the AI, characters permadie, and you swap places when you hit a lose condition or beat the game. Iron Man PvP mode, basically.
@BowandSvent
@BowandSvent 3 жыл бұрын
Hector's over there drooling on the floor while Oswin and Eliwood do all the work. Never thought I would see the day.
@Ariovisti
@Ariovisti 3 жыл бұрын
I would keep track of the number of characters lost. If all characters but the unkillable/plot essential ones died, I'd feel like I'd lost.
@SuperZez
@SuperZez 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely NEED to see you do this for Conquest Chapter 10.
@spoicymetbol8154
@spoicymetbol8154 3 жыл бұрын
Im really waiting for the day mekkah gets into a map where siege weapons/staffs are available to the enemy
@possummindmurder7532
@possummindmurder7532 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this series really highlights how weak FE7 enemies are, to the point where Bartre, a pretty mediocre unit, is able to tank and dish out some good damage before going down.
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, FE7 is so easy you can actually not lose everyone except for when confronting the Black Fang and Nergal.
@ketsuban_jpg
@ketsuban_jpg 3 жыл бұрын
0:58 Jugg and Mekkah's laughs are so contagious Less than a minute in and I'm already having a good time 😂
@JoeEmber776
@JoeEmber776 3 жыл бұрын
"everytime you check someones stats they lower a bit so you have to play as blindly as you can" basically just a normal fe1 & 2 playthrough then
@syrelian
@syrelian 3 жыл бұрын
*checks the enemy stats fifty times* Problem solved, army ruined
@dustin202
@dustin202 3 жыл бұрын
@@syrelian “every time you check stats you lower all of your own units stats by 1” FIXED
@mutedknght
@mutedknght 3 жыл бұрын
I have a hot take for these videos for if you do this for another game: AI players can't seize cities or activate objectives/toss green items that let the Human player recruit but the human player HAS to play on Ironman. I feel like the main difficulty of Fire Emblem games, and every trpg in fact, comes from the negative feedback loop a mistake can put you in over the course of a campaign, but the player also has positive feedback loops that can make them an absolute force later on if they avoid these mistakes.
@syrelian
@syrelian 3 жыл бұрын
The problem is that this early on, your units CAN just die to being hit with the deathball, with little counterplay unless they're Marcus, its offset normally by standard FE AI being slow to anger, and stupid on approach, and thus rarely ever forming those kinds of death balls
@eircal6990
@eircal6990 3 жыл бұрын
34:26 The DS can play GBA games natively, though only OG and Lite have a GBA port; DSi can be hacked to load GBA roms from an SD card.
@monkeman8759
@monkeman8759 3 жыл бұрын
Oh boy here we go again
@thatotherhippy4785
@thatotherhippy4785 3 жыл бұрын
You should mod the character stats to be what they are in the player controlled run. Sacrificing units and having a marcus/oswin carry, then replaying the level to spread exp is pretty busted. Tl;dr Have stats & items carry over but turn permadeath off (casual rules)
@thecomputer4212
@thecomputer4212 3 жыл бұрын
This would be really good since he is feeding kills to eliwood off screen
@techinalmachine
@techinalmachine 3 жыл бұрын
That hector reminds me of my level 13 base strength Seth
@mumentheorist8340
@mumentheorist8340 3 жыл бұрын
My suggestion for the point system would be to not give the red player a number of points per kill, but rather a points for killing a percentage of the blue units, like .25 for killing 25-50% of the blue units, .5 for killing 50-75%, and .75 for killing +75% of the blue units. For example, in Chapter 14 CyanYoh managed to kill 8 out of the 12 deployed units, or 66%, so he would get .5 points. The number of units that would count to this could just be deployed units, Merliniuss and any auto recruited characters like Dart or Isadora. The math might be a bit hard for some starting numbers, but deciding to round up or down should help, and you probably don’t even need to strictly follow the math. I would definitely consider Cyan’s performance worthy of .75, and if both players agree then it should be able to be flexible. Unlike making the number of point per kill be small like .1 or .05, this will be much easier to track without getting weird scores like 3.85. And unlike changing the number of points per blue player win to be higher and make the point per kill 1 like other people have suggested this scales better to how much each kill is worth. If Mekkah gets 3 points per win, I don’t think that the red player did better than them if they got four kills, when consider that could be only a fourth of their army, and in the context of the next chapter should be really easy given that the Lyndis Legion joins. You could bump it up to 5 or any other number, but there could be a chapter where that could be unfair to the blue player. Another suggestion I have would be to give the red player some amount of points, maybe .25 or .5, if the blue player fails to achieve any side objective. If you’re going to do this you should definitely either make it so that either the red player can only visit villages/steal chests with brigands and thieves or make it so that if the red player uses a cav or archer to steal/visit, it no longer counts to towards the bonus. Also, recruiting red units shouldn’t count to this side objective as it would be really easy to avoid recruitment as seen with Guy. So a good list of objectives would be: visiting villages, getting chests/hidden treasure, getting gaiden chapters, and recruiting green units. So as an example, in this chapter Mekkah didn’t get any of the chests, so the red player would get either .25 or .5 points. But in Chapter 13 Mekkah got both the top left village and the gaiden chapter, so the red player wouldn’t get any points. Funnily enough, in chapter 14 Mekkah failed to get any village, ignoring the cav who got Priscilla’s on turn 1, and you didn’t recruit Erk before he died, so the red player would get the points for that chapter. This incentive would make it so that both players would have an objective other than wait until they can make a decisive strike, so this should help the slow grinds that some maps are.
@yamievius
@yamievius 3 жыл бұрын
14:43 The dracoshield lmao
@johnathanera5863
@johnathanera5863 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe each kill the red player get is 1/7th of a point. That should mean about every 2 chapters they can get a point. I think 10 is a bit high, then they'd likely get a point every 3 to 4 chapters( assuming they arent actually able to win through objectives) and that wont make it any more interesting. Maybe an optional rule where if they win the map they dont get the points for kills? To avoid someone just completely destroying your entire army and getting 3 points in a single level, but maybe that's fair, I mean a complete sweep would be pretty hard to do no? Although this is the early game, in the later chapters where the enemies actually start to get dangerous it might not be so difficult to sweep. I dunno, But that's kinda what I'm thinking.
@AdjustedDisparity
@AdjustedDisparity 3 жыл бұрын
I played through fe7 for the first time over the last few days. Good luck on some of those later maps, where it will be completely impossible to keep units alive
@ryanprjgamingchannel9437
@ryanprjgamingchannel9437 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Seize (X) is the most overused chapter type for all Fire Emblem games prior to Awakening, but this was a nice reversal for the player and enemy things
@OrigamiAhsoka
@OrigamiAhsoka 2 жыл бұрын
Jugg’s laughter is genuinely contagious
@jackwhite6565
@jackwhite6565 3 жыл бұрын
Gee I wonder who is going to win. Is it the the man who dodges 75% of the time, and has units that can take down entire armies themselves, or is it going to be the man playing with a tipped over wastebasket?
@frozenwrath1352
@frozenwrath1352 3 жыл бұрын
when will the game spike up in difficulty? because it looks so helpless for the red units right now.
@Mekkkah
@Mekkkah 3 жыл бұрын
The next chapter will be really hard for blue with Lyn force deployed in a corner, with a lot of enemies between her and Hector. The next few will be a bit easier, maybe, although Lyn being there is going to make it tougher on blue since she's so frail, and permadeath will (prolly!) be on. Then mid and lategame have a couple of really tough maps where Marcus, Oswin and Hector are much more mortal than they currently seem to be.
@oh-no-its-clara7574
@oh-no-its-clara7574 3 жыл бұрын
battle before dawn.
@noukan42
@noukan42 3 жыл бұрын
@@oh-no-its-clara7574 that is straight up unwinnable unless the blue player is allowed to move Zephiel, Jaffar and Nini, and even then it's likely almost impossible anyway.
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 3 жыл бұрын
@@noukan42 Just skip that Chapter even if Ursula is kinda fun to watch.
@noukan42
@noukan42 3 жыл бұрын
@@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx skipping would be boring, i guess the red player would just mercifully ignore the obvious sure win strats.
@brutusthebear9050
@brutusthebear9050 3 жыл бұрын
Points should be determined by the unit killed. If the unit has a promotion, they're two points. If the unit isn't promoted, only one point. If the enemy wins by killing Eliwood, they get 3 points. You get 1 point from beating the enemy. If you do it without losing any units, maybe 2 points.
@Dennis_Ryan_Lynch
@Dennis_Ryan_Lynch 3 жыл бұрын
That 5 points reference was nice
@vigbjornblaskeeg5813
@vigbjornblaskeeg5813 3 жыл бұрын
Havent seen it. Let me guess. Marcus just sits on the throne.
@loudradialem5233
@loudradialem5233 3 жыл бұрын
Mekkah's characters are too powerful now. The next challenging map is when Lyn joins, the guest's strategy will be to rush her.
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 3 жыл бұрын
And also no one must end the turn with the Lord rescued. Its kinda unfair.
@roxsjim3295
@roxsjim3295 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm, maybe keeping the lost items (like the chests/dracoshield)/ keeping exp levels of characters as they are (from the multiplayer game instead of replaying anyway) might balance out the red v blue difference.
@TheWanderingLPer
@TheWanderingLPer 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for Eliwood to have a higher strength than Hector
@RuneTacticss
@RuneTacticss 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm maybe you should increase the enemy's stats by a small percentage, and maybe give them a very small percentage chance to have a better weapon?
@benblem147
@benblem147 3 жыл бұрын
39:53 Is this the bit where I point out TearRing Saga actually does have a multiplayer mode with maps (competition mode)? In true kaga style some of the maps are about 3 times larger than they need to be and looking at footage I don't know how one is supposed to tell player and enemy units apart (now I know how one of the awakening devs felt first playing FE on a black a white TV).
@meowistforlife
@meowistforlife 3 жыл бұрын
Man, that chapter 30X will be really tough for Mekkkah
@tristansallin5002
@tristansallin5002 3 жыл бұрын
There could be something like player units that die can't be deployed in the next chapter
@aaronclark7645
@aaronclark7645 3 жыл бұрын
This would be really neat with randomizer; or maybe even randomized recruitment, to make things more difficult for potentially both sides, and maybe show off some wacky strats
@TheFlameSlayer
@TheFlameSlayer 3 жыл бұрын
i feel it should be based on the unit and situation/map. killing a marcus early on should be worth more than say the lord kill considering marcus is a pre promote and pretty much can destroy most of the early game enemies. where are units like marcus or the clerics are easy pickings and should be worth less . they should get a point regardless for killing a recruitible green unit though at the same time i feel player should get a point for killing bosses on maps which they are optional (seize or defense) to encourage enemy to play more effectively with their bosses as well as to encourage player to go after the boss and kill them and prehaps a point if they recruit a red recruitible unit from the enemy
@tehphones
@tehphones 3 жыл бұрын
10th of a point per base class units. Two tenths for promoted units maybe? Maybe more points for units that join in that chapter/if they dont allow you to recruit someone.
@FEfan56
@FEfan56 3 жыл бұрын
A kill on Marcus should be just GG the whole series
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 3 жыл бұрын
Marcus and Oswin are the best epitome of a Chapter Bosses for the Enemy player.
@spacedoyster7686
@spacedoyster7686 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm...I'm curious; are you planning on making Lyn and Eliwood force deployed on every map?
@maxusheracross9928
@maxusheracross9928 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine this but with Conquest Chapter 10
@Imboredlol
@Imboredlol 3 жыл бұрын
Personally Love this series
@EternalHappElements
@EternalHappElements 2 жыл бұрын
There's no way to breakthrough choke points with axe vs sword and healing+heavy armor. Losing those sword men to knight really reduced the fighting capacity. There was still an decent match around 30min but I feel your friend just mentally can't take all those misses anymore. Your friend should have just rushed toward the main entrance and only left one or two passing units to keep the tension. Once your superior numbers are in the throne room soon Archer and healer will fall and force the player side to occupy the throne with whoever is available. Then you slow grind with throwing weapons and hope to see victory.
@jacobsullivan5660
@jacobsullivan5660 3 жыл бұрын
If i was to make a rule reccomendation what about limiting the nills+ninian bard train? Basically means that that the bards can traverse the entire map in a single turn otherwise.
@Mekkkah
@Mekkkah 3 жыл бұрын
Ninian and Nils are never on the same map.
@jacobsullivan5660
@jacobsullivan5660 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mekkkah Fair enough then. I must be misremembering. But I thought they were this game.
@IosLocarth
@IosLocarth 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobsullivan5660 they both are in this game they're just never available at the same time
@joshuabonesteel2303
@joshuabonesteel2303 3 жыл бұрын
1 point for killing troops would have led to red getting 3 and if wins get you 3 would have at least been a tie.
@MoiraticaHeretica
@MoiraticaHeretica 3 жыл бұрын
I really hate how much he seems to take a weapon from another unit and then just sit there hoarding both weapons uselessly, even though he could very easily take a weapon back and do something with it. Does he think having several units charge in without weapons is useful or something?
@brubie7584
@brubie7584 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a guide to setting this up yet? I want to experience true 2 player fire emblem 7 for myself.
@bladecommando
@bladecommando 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to call it the "Hot Claire" from now on thanks. Lol
@hikaritsumi2123
@hikaritsumi2123 3 жыл бұрын
ah crap forgot to watch last episode, I'll be back
@Shmooper_Dooper
@Shmooper_Dooper 3 жыл бұрын
You gotta try this with Sacred Stones! :D
@II-pu9is
@II-pu9is 3 жыл бұрын
anyways so i started bowing
@stevengu1253
@stevengu1253 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think it might've been better to just attempt a frontal attack. You got the numbers for it. Trying the sides is silly since you only have a couple of units to group up on 1 strong unit.
@NieOrginalny
@NieOrginalny 3 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: use hacks to replace Marcus with Isadora
@kooger888
@kooger888 3 жыл бұрын
New rule no marcus, its not really help if there's little risk.
@beakychugger1109
@beakychugger1109 3 жыл бұрын
nice Bartrait
@greyshadow9848
@greyshadow9848 3 жыл бұрын
You’ve gotta do one of these with bismix I NEED to see just how chaotic this can really get
@latioshunter
@latioshunter Жыл бұрын
One day, Marcus will fall....hopefully soon.
@goateeguy11221122
@goateeguy11221122 3 жыл бұрын
I thought y'all would be doing a permadeath run through all the levels so you can't necessarily count on saccing units as the player character
@syrelian
@syrelian 3 жыл бұрын
They're planning to play with permadeath later, early on its a sure snowball to always losing, between the loss of weapons, and the fact that your dudes not named Marcus die in like four hits, and an actual player can make a deathball to make it happen, the AI is slow to anger, and stupid on approach so you rarely see them naturally gather into such a state
@MrObscureinsanity
@MrObscureinsanity 3 жыл бұрын
How about if a unit dies they lose stats? Like a level and 3 stat points. And you are forced to take the lowest level units.
@bayzul7405
@bayzul7405 2 жыл бұрын
Dat Hector 1 HP dink, and he missed
@andresfgp13
@andresfgp13 3 жыл бұрын
hi mekkah, is there a link for this mod? it looks like a lot of fun.
@dominquedoty458
@dominquedoty458 3 жыл бұрын
Hector is Sheda. Why? Well that strength is PATHETIC!. But everything else? is amazing!
@Just_a_Dragon69
@Just_a_Dragon69 3 жыл бұрын
Something i notice, mages are hella powerfull and having them atack 2 times? Damn
@mcmillanjustin903
@mcmillanjustin903 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t seem like the Opponent know what there doing I would have bum rush Elwood
@mauigonz
@mauigonz 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion he never got either Erk or Priscilla so It is kinda unfair that he gets them.
@crystalarm0r
@crystalarm0r 3 жыл бұрын
i think i saw this video on another channel a couple months ago
@sagelordkami
@sagelordkami 3 жыл бұрын
Fe7 is actually a player phase game?
@rewrose2838
@rewrose2838 3 жыл бұрын
😂 the enemy player won't let Mekkah have any enemy phase plays.
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx 3 жыл бұрын
@@rewrose2838 Just like Shadow Dragon.
@DiploRaptor
@DiploRaptor 3 жыл бұрын
Also i need the PVP thing for me and a friend
@flint8291
@flint8291 3 жыл бұрын
What happened to Dorcas?
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