Defenders LIVE! // The Names of Satan | The Doctrine of Creation pt 21

[@arstd196]

that outfit straight magma🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@DavidRosario69]

Thank you for pointing out John 14:30-31, 5:19, and 2 Corinthians 4:4. I have friends which are Jehovah's Witnesses and they point out Luke 4:6 ... and said to him, "To you I will give all this authority and their glory, for it has been delivered to me, and I give it to whom I will. They point out that Jesus did not call out Satan on a lie when Satan claimed to have authority. My problem is reconciling this with Psalms 24:1 ... The earth is the LORD's and the fullness thereof, the world and those who dwell therein, Should we interpret this to mean that at some point authority was given to Satan or is there another way to explain this?

[@brando3342]

Honestly, when I hear “lord of the flies” I don’t imagine “belittlement”. What I imagine is a name which describes the lord of “that which signifies death”. For a fleshly object that is dead is soon inhabited by this rotting flesh scavenger. This would mean the “the lord of the flies” is not only lord of death, but lord of that which warns death has arrived. The flies are the messengers of death, and their lord is he who brings it. Beelzebub.

[@DorisThe]

Yes the whole world is under the control of evil but Job was a strongest beleiver for whom heaven gives testimony the he is strong beleiver and satan had to take the permission to do some evil things in his life but in limit cuz we are beleivers and we are not now in satan's control.

[@seanpierce9386]

This story has a twist: Yahweh and Baal were one and the same. We have archaeological records of how the Israelites were once Canaanites who culturally split, and so did their communal storm gods. Originally, the Canaanites were polytheists, with El as the high God, Yahweh as the communal storm God who brought rain and food, his wife, and many other gods besides. The Leviathan is an archaic reference to the monster of the sea that Yahweh fought. The serpent in the garden came much later, and its relationship is unknown. When the two tribes split, El was fused with Yahweh, whose wife was also erased from later tradition. The other gods were replaced by angels and demons. As God’s rival, Baal transformed into Beelzebub. Lucifer, the fallen angel, may refer to Beelzebub, but it’s unclear. Meanwhile, the satan appears as a completely separate concept: A member of God’s council to challenge humans and put them in their place. However, Christian tradition has fused the two characters to simplify the spiritual narrative and replace the Jewish tradition of reason and challenge with black and white thinking. In particular, Revelation is a strange reinterpretation of previous concepts to fit into a revenge narrative against the Romans. It’s not a great source for what people actually believed.

[@midimusicforever]

Satan likes to call himself Allah and pretend to be God the Creator, among other.

[@seanpierce9386]

So how do you determine which is the pretender and which is the original? Let’s say my friend Alice claims to have received truth directly from God, invalidating all other religions. Then her friends Bob, Charlie, and Denise and chime in, claiming to also have direct revelation. They’re eyewitnesses to God, which is far better than the gospel accounts. How do you determine that you are right and they are wrong?

[@ivancavar3037]

No other god and no other religion claims that "the adversary" has control over this world. Only the Bible teaches this. Not sure why this fact is not used more in apologetics as the dominion of evil over this reality and all of history is easily observed.