Defending Kung Fu Panda 2 - A Response to RSG 2

[@joeiorio9654]

The genius of “Set the soothsayer free” is that Shen is in denial of how wicked he truly is. Him sparing the Soothsayer is his way of coping with the last reminder of his parents. He wants to believe so badly that they’d forgive him, so he spares their friend, as if that would excuse what he did. But he’s just that far gone

[@OGsubway]

Let’s hope RSG doesn’t copyright strike this video

[@Novanimator]

😂

[@jacklove503]

I hope so too but something tells me he's going to do that anyway he wouldn't be the first one that abused the copyright thing

[@hybridvenom9]

He will probably do that regardless, that would be terrible

[@elephantpowerproductions]

“A shitty reflection of the original” EXCUSE ME!?

[@SkyLord1846]

That honestly shocked me. I never thought anyone would said that.

[@hybridvenom9]

WHAT?!? KUNG FU PANDA 2 IS NOT A SHITTY ORIGINAL MOVIE, IT JUST BUILDS UP EVERYTHING IN THE FIRST MOVIE AND GIVES IT ENOUGH TO RIVAL THE FIRST MOVIE OR BE BETTER THAN IT LIKE WHAT PEOPLE SAY

[@JBMReaseBurner]

Never would expect a kung fu panda disagreement

[@spider-manunknown9193]

RSG2 has some of the worst takes I’ve ever seen. Also he’s a coward for copyright striking Collins video and refusing to join the stream.

[@s.k.4289]

He actually struck another channel and conceded it was wrong but still it sucks he did that

[@spider-manunknown9193]

@@s.k.4289 so he’s being hypocritical in some way?

[@javelin-4442]

He didn't copyright strike Colin I think.

[@s.k.4289]

No he realized he was wrong but regardless the reason he gave for why he did it was still stupid

[@vulcanrampage4015]

Remember folks RSG2 ain't critiquing KFP2, he just reviewing it lmao

[@lordraiden7397]

Kung fu panda 2 having gravity is a plothole. So it justifies its 5/10 rating

[@kingkronos7862]

"You need to elaborate" mf YOU need to elaborate that sentence describes literally all of his videos and every point he makes in them how am I supposed to know which one you're talking about?

[@This-is-a-commentt]

Never thought I’d ever see a video with this title but here we are

[@mpguy24]

About Shifu saying it was his worst day being out of character, on that day, Po, someone with no prior fighting experience was chosen to be a dragon warrior, and after what happened with Tai Lung, Shifu got mad and looked at it as a bad day, of course like you said he was mostly just joking that it was the worst (his worst was the day Tai Lung attacked) but even then the context was over inner peace, and in the first movie Shifu started meditating to try to avhieve it not long after Po was chosen, how does RSG conclude its out of character. I also want to add to Tigress, the reason she was softer with Po is because she saw that because of trauma, he was endangered multiple times because he stood still out of shock(for example in the begining he was first doing well against the wolves, but once he saw the symbol the boss wolf managed to knock him) and she concluded that for Po its too dangerous, but the reason she went back to being hard with the others is because they have no trauma relating to Shen, so with them they could form a plan where they defeat Shen, and they all survive and plus they are all experienced fighters, who have fought dangerous enemies before. "The only thing really different is Shen" first of all, having a Main Antagonist different from the previous is a rather big difference, especially since he has a different plan, different fighting style, he is a threat mostly psychologically and through intelligence, so because of him the consequences result in a much different narrative, this time the story is about learning about his traumatic past, and coming to terms that its still the rest of his story is important, and achieving greatness is about what he does in the present, the previous movie was a chosen one story where he has to push forward while not many believe in him, and finds out that the Dragon Warrior is just a label and there is no secret ingredient, its about how he works for it. Amazing Lucas would actually be able to prove this movie is not innovative enough. But jesus RSG's video is hilariously bad (this is definitely his worst video so far, yes its worse than his Invincible Review), the only compliments I can give to this video is the mic quality is good and what it didnt do (for example at least there is no racism in it) but otherwise there is nothing redeeming about it, the points are complete garbage, he comes off as smug (for example his tone at alot of parts can be condescending or showing the image of the director) , he does not elaborate on a lot of points well (and like mentioned earlier all his elaborations he does say are frankly not good), how some of his fans defend his video is beyond me (although even most of his fans said this video is bad, most of the top comments do not like his review. I wish I was able to see the dislike ratio)

[@StoryTeller796]

Oh, so RSG is a scumbag. Good to know, I'm staying away from him.

[@mikumika3819]

this kinda has the same energy as cosmonaut's video on the spiderman trilogy with the whole "oh yeah this movie is so focused on being a comedy"

[@indolentlard8612]

RSG 2 is not smarter than a Penguin goon.

[@EliasValadez-pu1iq]

13:34 I like how he tried to use Megamind as an example for why it’s bad to make your bad guy’s look incompetent when the point of Megamind is that deep down he isn’t truly a villain. He was just mistreated because of the way he looked and was convinced the only way he could be accepted in anyway by society would be if he became a villain they could root against. However the movie shows he treats being a villain more as a game he and Metroman played and that he never took it 100% seriously. In the scene he mentions Roxxane is very cool headed cause she has been through this enough times to know he isn’t actually going to harm her and that his plan to defeat Metroman will fail as usual and while the movie does make you think he did succeed in defeating Metroman we learn that he did indeed fail and Metroman just faked his death. After he supposedly succeeds in killing Metroman Megamind tried to create another superhero cause he realized being the city’s boogeyman was pointless and full without someone to try and challenge him. When the person her grants those powers to turns evil and makes it clear he intends to actually kill Megamind, Megamind is legit startled by this because Metroman never actually threatened him in that way further establishing that he didn’t take this thing very seriously. All this causes Megamind to question the role he has been playing this whole leading to his redemption arc where he ironically is able to defeat someone with the powers of Metroman because now as a hero because his intentions is no longer to try and fit into what society told him he was, but rather to actually tackle a legitimate threat to the city.

[@captainbeastwinger4940]

13:18 i guess joker isn't an intimidating villain

[@StormSlayer69]

This dude already seems to view superhero stuff as a lesser form of art, why am I not surprised he failed entirely at criticizing this movie🗿

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

One thing I like about Shen is that compared to Tai Lung, Kai, the Chameleon, and all the villains from the TV Shows, is that Shen’s death was not because of Po, but rather himself. Po didn’t banish him to the Spirit Realm with the Wushi Finger Hold, or gave him too much chi, or just let the spirits of dead warriors take him away to the Spirit Realm with them after defeating him thanks to the help of his apprentice… what caused him to die was his own weapon falling onto him, with Shen himself even accepting his fate. There’s a comment I found when I was watching Schaffrilas Productions’ video on Kung Fu Panda 2, that analyzes Shen’s character. It reads as follows… “Shen himself could be considered a warrior of black and white, since his color scheme is primarily white with some black accents. Everything Shen did, from weaponizing gunpowder, killing the pandas, and trying to conquer China led him inexorably to his own death. It’s almost a Greek tragedy in that he is his own undoing. Po is the primary opposing force to Shen, but only because of the consequences of Shen’s actions.” That being said… Lord Shen was a really compelling bad guy. While I now prefer Tai Lung & Kai, and some of the villains from the shows, I still admired Lord Shen for being one of the best animated villains, and one of the best roles Gary Oldman has ever played. But he’ll never top Gary Oldman’s best role… Lord Vortech.

[@javelin-4442]

Guys.... He isn't reviewing Kung Fu Panda, he's critiquing it.

[@jacklove503]

I'm not watching the video I'm just spectating it 🤣🤣

[@Biggydiggly]

This is one of the worst critiques I've ever seen.

[@georgearch8917]

I love seeing non-cbm videos like this from you, super cool to see stuff like this

[@cybersamurai2049]

"a shitty reflection of the original" What is bro talking about

[@SkyLord1846]

I never thought this would happen. Kung Fu Panda 2 is a 10/10 masterpiece and is the peak of the KFP franchise. While I personally think the other three movies were great, I don’t think they’re on the same level as this movie.

[@_juju_jojo_]

I thought this was Colin’s video like a dumbass lmao. Really good video. My only issue is that it’ll start up another drama with RSG where he’ll take shit out of context, use logical fallacies, make 50 points he does not explain at all, and keep saying Man babies Man babies Man babies That shit was aids to much ngl

[@Kaijuenjoyer-nv7qn]

Rsg's video screams of misunderstandings and or pure bad taste. Starting with his stance on Po. Po, as a character, has only gotten better from the first. His growth from learning of his own past and trying to move on from said past is a natural evolution of his arc from the first film. He's still the funny Jack Black Panda we knew but he has more layers and goes through more struggles. The way he just downplays the direction and story of the film just feels knitpicky most times or is just blatantly wrong. The clip where he shows the destruction of Shen's fleet and slowly fades in to Shen defeated, with the slow rising shot revealing the cannon is the most moot fucking point. This, people, is what we call an establishing shot. It shows us the cannon so that it doesnt come out of nowhere in the end. Also, "The story doesnt set up innerpeace well" is such bullshit man. Shifu telling Po about innerpeace at the beging and him balancing the water drop is just blatant foreshadowing to Po finding innerpeace. To add on to the steller direction of the film, the same editing techniques are brought back in the climax where he deflects the cannon shots. How was this not built up in Rsg's mind? Idfk. He did have one, ONE soild point being Shifu doesnt really interfere that much till the end, which is a valid criticism, until you relealize Oogway did the same thing in 1. By his logic, Oogway is a piss poor teacher for ditching Shifu when Tai Lung, a dangerous warror who can solo the five low diff, escapes. See what I mean by him not understanding his own critics and this film at large? His take on Shen is the most braindead one in his video. Shen is much more than some bloodthirsty maniac that whats to rule China. He is a broken, psychotic, tragic character terrified of fate. Once he found out about his 'destiny', which mind you he didnt have to even believe, he goes and wipes out entire Panda villages. He thought he did the right thing, which is why he "came to his parents full of Pride". It is also why he became furious and jaded about his parents which caused him to delude himself into beliving they always hated him. Shen is the living embodiment of Oogway's line: "One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it" which is just a perfect way to summarize his character instead of just some random bloodthirsty warlord. He just doesn't understand the media he covers and honestly sounds like he's being negative to be unique. He is basically a worse Under the Mayo, who at least gives infinitely more reasons and backs up said reason even if they arent that good. Thats why his Invincible videos suck so bad. Thats why his KFP2 video sucks. He is media illiterate.

[@DHGxMcFlurry]

He's also a terrible friend. I was his friend for a while on discord when he still had like 200 subs. His aggressive, stubborn and ego filled attitude in his videos is just how he really is. Very obnoxious and full of himself.

[@khiemtran9390]

So a little story with me and my relationship with this sequel. Back then, I remembered watching this once as a child back then and thinking "Eh, it was alright". As a child, I was more exposed to the original KFP and the movie that made this franchise a trilogy. -I refuse to mention the 4th one since I saw that as an adult and the fact that my older brother forgot about it says something.- While I didn't hate KFP2, I was rather bewildered that it is seen as the golden child of the trilogy. So around... '22 I decided to give it a rewatch being a lot older and developed when I first originally saw it. And uh... honestly, from beginning to end, it really tugs my heartstrings whenever Po tells Mr. Ping that despite knowing his origins, Po still regards him as a father. Honestly, this movie does an excellent transition of Po's development from his perception of his self image from the previous movie to finding peace with his past and in a sense, finding peace with his own identity. I love this movie to bits, and it appals me to know that there are those that are completely ignorant to what it sets up and I'm glad to know that there are others that won't back down from clarifying against it. Great video BTW.

[@spiderghost765]

No SK, if you just ignore the genocide, deep adult message, good story, and good and deep characters, its just a stupid kids movie Like seriously, a movie with a peacock genocidal maniac AT THE BEGINNING is a stupid kids movie?? I may prefer the first movie personally but this is still definitely a worthy sequel

[@malikpierre-louis3343]

fair take.

[@AStoryteller-for-fun]

A peacock Hitler if you will

[@Chaosedits_CH02]

I am absolutely loving the beat downs that you and colin are giving to RSG 2.

[@dykor3531]

I never thought a masterpiece like kung fu panda 2 would need defending

[@GOODYGOODGOOD789]

S.K. what's your opinion on Sheev Talks' video "How Across the Spider-Verse Ruined Peter B Parker"

[@OGsubway]

I just saw that video and it was painful to watch.

[@lukescrew1981]

I was wondering this too

[@joeiorio9654]

@@OGsubwayBro probably stole it from someone else Btw this isn’t me yapping to yap he’s just a genuine POS who steals content

[@OGsubway]

@@joeiorio9654 wait, does he actually steal other people’s content?

[@joeiorio9654]

@@OGsubway Yes. In his clone wars video, I gave him ideas for the segment discussing Echo. He admitted to getting them from me in DM’s and promised to credit me…because they were my ideas. But we had a falling out and left on not very good terms, so sheev did the responsible thing and still used my ideas word for word, but just removed any mention of me. And he’s admitted that it was a conscious decision because he wasn’t “comfortable” talking about me. So plagiarism was the only outcome for him to take. Because of this, my video on Echo that I uploaded a week before his is basically identical to his segment…because he took my ideas

[@JDMaverick6714]

I’d at least respect his opinion if he gave good reasons and points, but all of them are garbage 🤦🏻‍♂️. Same with Invincible. Great video 🎉

[@LeonardoShellhead]

I didn't think anyone would dislike this movie

[@DigimontamerB]

This guy, this freakin' guy.

[@Menace_1129]

I actually like some of RSG's content, unlike some people in this comment section but I always felt like his KFP2 review was just in bad faith and too harsh

[@Number-1-ball-blast-player]

I find his videos fun and entertaining but he’s a horrible reviewer

[@malikpierre-louis3343]

His speedster videos were decent.

[@Number-1-ball-blast-player]

@@malikpierre-louis3343 yeah,he was completely right about speedsters tho

[@malikpierre-louis3343]

@@Number-1-ball-blast-player Why are you responding to me exactly ?

[@Number-1-ball-blast-player]

@@malikpierre-louis3343 my bad I meant to put a “yeah”at the beginning of the sentence lol.have a good day

[@comicbookking3446]

I only saw a little bit of RSG2’s review on Kung Fu Panda 2 and that was about it when comes to seeing his content. That being said, I love the Kung Fu Panda franchise.

[@Splinter-dt9oe]

You see SK, Kung Fu Panda 2 is a bad movie.. because it has gravity and gravity is a plot hole....................

[@toxin1552]

RSG sounds like one of those TLOU2 haters where they think they can write a better story, but can’t. This video definitely got my sub ‼️💯

[@mpguy24]

RSG actually likes TLOU2, well at least last time I heard when he talked about it

[@kwayneboy1524]

​@@mpguy24no foolin? What flipped his view?

[@mpguy24]

@@kwayneboy1524 I meant Im not sure he could have changed his opinion whether he likes tlou2 or not since I dont keep up with his videos that much, but last time I heard him mention the game he said he likes it

[@argkitsune]

Mfw the nuanced and complex villain is nuanced and complex and not generically evil

[@nomansland1494]

RSG sounds like Jschlatt if he was even more of an asshole

[@s.k.4289]

Damn 💀

[@CrocsFortress]

I’m curious, what are your top 5 animated films?

[@s.k.4289]

Kung Fu Panda 2, Across the Spider-Verse, How to Train Your Dragon 3, Kung Fu Panda, and Into the Spider-Verse. This is in no particular order.

[@drstorm44]

He's right about Kung Fu Panda 2 being a fraud check...just not in the way he imagines it being, sadly.

[@arctic_andy_infinity5708]

Kids deserve better than just obnoxious jokes and lowbrow humor. Him saying it's "more geared for kids" undermines the intelligence of children and makes it out that children are stupid.

[@mpguy24]

RSG's video is bad, the actual reason KFP 2 is a 5/10 is because it has no Amazing Lucas in it.

[@glamtthefrozenmonke144]

I think the part with Schaffrillas Productions was ironic because he also made a video praising kung fu panda 2

[@Tony2n]

Exactly my thoughts i wonder what rsg2 must think of that XD i would pay to see this face it would be priceless

[@Kingbeat1]

I know this guy he can't understand powerscaling

[@amongdrip8073]

I actually like this guy's take on power scaling, for the most part it's a landscape of childish pedantry full of made up nonsense that expects to be taken seriously. I honestly don't blame him for calling its proponents man-children they really deserve it.

[@Gibs491]

​@amongdrip8073 That sounds more like a problem With some people in the community rather than powers scaling its self Despite people who use that stan lee quote tell you having consistent/good power scaling/power system Is a good thing Because if you don't all tension In a story is pretty much removed Because the writer can just choose for The heroes to win at any point with not much of an explanation

[@amongdrip8073]

@@Gibs491 Yes and Lee was right, Power scaling is not a good substitute for good/consistent writing because it relies on essential fanon assumptions to justify its conclusions, regardless of what pedantic nerds on the Internet say, at the end of the day the writers decide, I don't watch the stuff but look at the original power scaling material, Dragon Ball Z, I've seen analysis where certain characters would repeatedly fumble easy fights because the writer demanded it, the same reason why the same show has had characters repeatedly die and the world be destroyed on more than one occasion, for the sake of the plot. Power scaling is just an attempt at trying to give fans input/some kind of authority in this stuff which is a terrible idea, because fanboys are consistently misguided children that don't know what they want.

[@Gibs491]

@amongdrip8073 I never said power scaling Is a good substitute for a story I said having a consistent power scaling system helps a story like The flash is a perfect example of this 1 minute he can move faster than time The other he gets beaten by street level thugs It just creates plot holes and confusions And on the subject of dragon ball Is imagine of roshi beat jiren in the Tournament of power It would make no sense And feel unearned It's not. The most important thing about a story But if you don't consider it can lead plot holes And make the story worse

[@amongdrip8073]

@@Gibs491 How does any of this justify power scaling In place of consistent writing? Power scaling is a terminally online past-time that values pointless debate and pedantry over real consistency. We already have a method of fixing the problems you brought up, it's called consistency, an aspect of good writing, power scaling has no place in this, precisely why it only exists in Internet spaces and should remain so.

[@scarlet2847]

Cinema sin has been devastating for the media literally of people who eat glue

[@batnick10]

Goated ending🙏🏻

[@jacklove503]

So are we just going to look over that RSG called Tigris a he then after a few seconds said she? I'm not really sure he corrected himself on purpose or just to make sure to assume about everything and the only way that I can understand that RSG didn't understand the difference is if he was still a child which is very contradicting to this video

[@Gameing-and-otherstuff]

I was really not happy when it called it a flawed sequel 😤 but then I remember that even good ones but kung fu panda is not as flawed as he makes out be and this video definitely outlines his point

[@transgoose]

13:56 i will spare you now spread my word

[@The_eternal_virgin_1]

Get ready for that strike

[@dylanhudec979]

Just remember if you think dumbVile is annoying just remember RSG Exist

[@ferociousrazordino3581]

Thx for making this video

[@cdrago08]

Inner peace wasnt set up and he realizes it too quickly

[@NiohArcadia]

You're not W S.K. Definitely not winning this reddit war.

[@davidrooker5141]

you tell him off

[@LincolnAKAVenox]

Kung fu panda 2 is one of my favorite animated movies ever I'm pleasantly surprised you like the movie. I would've thought you would've had a problem with characters stopping to talk or something.

[@s.k.4289]

Always context dependent 👍

[@LincolnAKAVenox]

@s.k.4289 a part I thought you have a problem is a scene when Master Shifu comes back to help in the final battle and he just kind of stands on his stick for a few seconds and the wolves just look at him instead of attacking him. Idk it seems like the kind of thing you would point out.

[@blueblade6174]

Better than How to Train your Dragon 2?

[@s.k.4289]

Yes

[@flowerboi16]

@@s.k.4289 How do you feel about the HTTYD movies? How would you rate each of them out of 10?

[@s.k.4289]

Basically all 9/10 at minimum.

[@paperlionkid1787]

Kung Fu Panda is awesome!!!

[@katieoneill2002]

skadoosh

[@BlueBlur2003]

That video was seriously the worst movie take I've ever seen on the internet. It's like RSG2 doesn't even understand the characters at all, even though he praises the first movie so much and thinks he gets the characters. Anyways I love Kung Fu Panda 2, so much so that personally, it is my favorite movie of all time.

[@t.i.5528]

You should do a video about HTTYD