Defending The Fort Against All Odds | Rome 2 | DEI

Rome 2 Total War : Divide et Impera

[@Y_ooKang]

Rule 1 when commanding any army- always fucking scout ahead, if not 1? Then 2. - varus in the massacre of the tuetoburg forest

[@hetmanRTS]

Always scout first!

[@JensPetter95]

Weren't the cav/scouts varus had germanic and was a part of the ambush? so make sure the scouts are atleast trustworthy

[@burgersx2]

Always travel in packs of 2

[@hetmanRTS]

Good one.

[@barcotics1880]

classic luring the enemy into a trap and then surrounding them

[@metalltitan]

Pike camping is always a valid strategy when defending a fort or town with no walls. That wipe-out was nice to see though. Setup kinda reminds of Caesar's account of his battle against the Helvetii in Bello Gallico. He had his legions build a palisade wall with earthworks to stand on and then defended against the onslaught of the desperate Helvetii. Slaughtered them to a man and then went after the baggage train with all the women and children after they refused to surrender.

[@something4179]

With walls too...just block the staircases and gate with hoplites/phallangites. And then the meatgrinder begin. No need to fight for the wall just let them have them. And then missile fire into their massive blob. 4-6 solid phallangites with some cavalry for any possible sally out to flank them into the gates ideally. Or a lot of generic bowmen for being your main fast killing weapon. Any spendable militia can be used just to fill gaps if needed or as last ditch effort, all and all on average 5 phallangites can easily sway the battle to your favour to defend a walled city easily. Or a simple settlement. Your only concerns would be enemy missiles in the open settlements. Which you better deal with. 5 Phallanx MUST Defending Army 2-4? Militia (Garrison) 2-6? Archers (Garrison) 1-2? Cavalry (Garrison) No stack can defeat you with just those. Except Rome, yet even then just make sure get maybe few more units into the defending army and you will make it. As long as you know what you are doing by following the principles mentioned. Cavalry is barely an issue in sieges. Just have a few if you are bored and want to sally out from a second gate and go all the way around to pick a few easy kills. Unless they got a lot of cav then do not even bother. You do not have to. Their cavalry, be it missile or not will have to engage at some point in melee and they will never win a head to head against hoplites or phallangites even if exhausted. As far as wall city goes. For open just get a decent half stack or 15 units army at max. No full stack is meant to be defending unless heavily damaged hoping to replenish.

[@fjordhusky9023]

Great video! I never tried to set barricades in between the pallisade walls and put pikes straight behind them! I always made the classic ''L-shape'' with the pikes and barricades facing inwards into the fort opening and then Pin the enemy either from 2 or 3 sides, depending on how many units I had. This setup seems to require even less units so thanks for sharing! Important with a proper hammer though, that COmpanion cavalry is so good!

[@hetmanRTS]

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[@agagqbq]

funny to see spears glitching through walls was still not fixed in rome 2. i remember in the original rome you could just place these behind pallisades and they would kill any battering rams before they could hit your walls, incredibly broken

[@martinbryaskov7709]

I had such a similar moment in the same mod while playing as Makedon against Thrace, before the encamped battle I fought another battle against Thrace, I had 4,000 soldiers and they had 9,100 (it was an open field), and at the end of the struggle I was left with just 1.7k troops but managed to kill all 9k of theirs. next, when I ended the turn (before I made a camp), I was attacked by THREE Thracian armies coming from Phillipopolis, some 14,000 soldiers compared to my 1.7k. it took me 1 hour to finish the battle and I had less than 200 surviving soldiers, alexander himself and his hiera ile bodyguard unit got 3,000 kills themselves, the pikemen did sort of good I guess, but they are much much more nerfed than the ones in vanilla

[@bigbossns]

What mod were you playing?

[@martinbryaskov7709]

@@bigbossns literally the same mod, Diveda et Impera

[@warlord1198]

that is crazy bro good job i also had like similar battle in dei mod but it was capital defence i was playing as egypt and fighting selukia with litterly all armies in the east fighting selukids when out of a sudden some tribal faction in libyan deserts west of egypt attacked me directly sieging and assualting alexandria with 2 armies around 8k or 7k soliders i only had the garrison army and small army of 7 units 2 cavlary 4 phalanx pikemen unit and 1 archers i litterly fought at 2 sides at same battle one side fighting one of their 2 armies on the walls of the capital fort with the garrison army and another side where i had to fight their 2nd army with 20 units with only my 7 units and i had no walls advantage since this fight was out of the city i focused on fleeing them rather than killing them fighting their morale cuz they were tribes non organzied units so i knew it was impossible to kill them with my small and weak garrison army so i just scared them forcing them to retreat only killing 2k wih remaining soliders of them around 6k soliders fleeing from my remaining 900 garrison army haha

[@Panos_Sa]

First of all nice battle! Second: you dont get friendly fire from your watch towers like Attila total war

[@hetmanRTS]

That's interesting. I was sure I lost some men today(not the same battle) to friendly tower fire.

[@DominatorGarage]

@@hetmanRTS you do get friendly fire, not sure what he is on about. zoom in and watch your guys get shot and die!

[@RigobertosTacoShop]

Good ol sarrisa phalanx. Can hold off entire armies in a chokehold.. I’ve won many a defense sieges with just 1 or 2 holding an entry

[@hetmanRTS]

They are the best!

[@vikingsdawn1301]

My strategy was always to take as many as I could with me If I knew it was a losing scenario.

[@hetmanRTS]

You can't win them all.

[@fatrat600284]

Total war AI being as dumb as ever, lol.

[@jarreauetcobanez3447]

i miss this game

[@hetmanRTS]

it's great!

[@Glazgo-po8ph]

Awesome, but enemy AI just bruh

[@hetmanRTS]

That's your Total War AI right there.

[@adamgross1157]

200 man cav unit whaaaat?

[@hetmanRTS]

Hell yeah, baby!

[@teranbickler7454]

So the AI is just dumb as hell. Sweet.

[@muhammadgydaaulia8662]

Do you use any mod in this campaign?

[@hetmanRTS]

Divide Et Impera

[@SaxonBlade]

What is this mod??!!

[@SaxonBlade]

Oh it’s DEI, are the units like that in DEI? Haven’t bought

[@hetmanRTS]

Yeah, Divide et Impera is overhaul mod for Rome 2. It's fantastic! I recommend you to check it out.

[@MattZaharias]

⁠@@SaxonBladeRome 2 is 100% worth buying in 2024. DEI and the submods to customize it are awesome. Huge recommend. My dad and I are playing a Wrath of Sparta co-op campaign and I’ve got my own Rome Julii campaign.

[@SaxonBlade]

@@MattZaharias I have 1600 hours😅

[@SaxonBlade]

@@MattZaharias let’s coop, i love the Caesar in Gaul campaign in addition to Rome grand campaign (go Cornelia, -50% auxiliary upkeep)

[@MarcinWilk-td3jg]

DEI in my video game? 😡

[@hetmanRTS]

What?

[@Mitchel_The_Catalan]

@@hetmanRTS he's referring to the woke DEI (Diversity, equity and inclusion).

[@KeithR2002]

Im for DEI in othr fields , even if in historical fiction. But i would literally stop playing the day they do it in historical total wr imagine they made the Egyptians black in pharoah dynasties​@@Mitchel_The_Catalan

[@martinbryaskov7709]

@@Mitchel_The_Catalan no lmao he is reffering to the mod the youtube is using named Diveda Et Impera (DEI)

[@rizzo9748]

Hi. Why are your unit size is over 200? I thought 160 is maximum 😮

[@something4179]

It is a mod. If you are playing vanilla you are losing a lot of experiences...such as this one.

[@rizzo9748]

@@something4179 damn

[@hetmanRTS]

Mod's name is Divide Et Impera.

[@zackg6216]

This is why I cant play DEI it makes the Phalanx and Roman legion op. No fun to play as.

[@ReZw7a]

i agree with you on roman legions but pike phalanx are not that hard to deffeat they are really vunrebale to missiles and flanking if you flank them a little bit you can decicevely defeat them or a single charge in the rear will rout them because their strength is in their formation but hoplite are bit overpowered but still great mod to play with.

[@hetmanRTS]

It's not a mod problem, it's the barricades. They just prevent enemy units from getting to yours.

[@hereandnow3156]

Philangites lead Alexander the Great to the door step of India. Of course they're strong units, it wouldn't make sense to make them weak lol.

[@martinbryaskov7709]

You are extremely wrong, the pikes in this mod are nerfed than the ones in vanilla and get much much less kills, I mean after 20 minutes of fighting with one of my 1.3k pikemen units, they only had 300 kills and were down by 110 soldiers from original size, in comparison to the vanilla game I would probably have like 1000 kills if I had the same conditions

[@RigobertosTacoShop]

Bro you just gotta use different tactics