Defending The Fort Against All Odds | Rome 2 | DEI

[@Y_ooKang]

Rule 1 when commanding any army- always fucking scout ahead, if not 1? Then 2. - varus in the massacre of the tuetoburg forest

[@hetmanRTS]

Always scout first!

[@JensPetter95]

Weren't the cav/scouts varus had germanic and was a part of the ambush? so make sure the scouts are atleast trustworthy

[@AwkwardMaster]

Quinctilius Varus, give me back my legions !!

[@gosulanre6669]

Bro used forced march without scouting 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@VioletMilks]

3. Germanic Wars and the Romans Strike Back!

[@fl3669]

Losing a fort battle in DEI is virtually impossible. All you need to do is block the entrance with 2-3 units and have the rest of the army flank the blob (which the AI always does). Once the blob is flanked, mass rout ensues and the battle is won.

[@coloradoing9172]

it's really fun to have a few heavy phalanx units just for this purpose.

[@burgersx2]

Always travel in packs of 2

[@hetmanRTS]

Good one.

[@Barrystue]

For the most part Funny story, a few days ago I was playing the last Roman DLC for atilla when I sent a single army in africa to deal with the eastern separatists, hoping the main Byzantines could help (I should’ve known better) Who else but the moors show up, having done absolutely nothing since they spawned in So, they corner my single army and put me in a battle where I’m outnumbered by a good 2 or 3 times what I have. Luckily The area where I spawned in the battle was near high ground, making it easier for my skutatoi to hold. Still, they were falling apart. As a last ditch effort I sent my general and his tagmata cavalry to flank around them. They were all only really half strength from previous engagements with their cavalry, but tagmata are just built like that and so they were able to break the enemies. It was still very much a Pyrrhic victory, and I had to take a few turns to recover, but me not losing my army there led to many more victories in africa and allowed me to have that one army basically take all of Mauritania alone

[@Albadorata333]

What is yhis mod?

[@firmmannet4481]

I miss totalwar era of youtube

[@hetmanRTS]

Me too :(

[@martinbryaskov7709]

I had such a similar moment in the same mod while playing as Makedon against Thrace, before the encamped battle I fought another battle against Thrace, I had 4,000 soldiers and they had 9,100 (it was an open field), and at the end of the struggle I was left with just 1.7k troops but managed to kill all 9k of theirs. next, when I ended the turn (before I made a camp), I was attacked by THREE Thracian armies coming from Phillipopolis, some 14,000 soldiers compared to my 1.7k. it took me 1 hour to finish the battle and I had less than 200 surviving soldiers, alexander himself and his hiera ile bodyguard unit got 3,000 kills themselves, the pikemen did sort of good I guess, but they are much much more nerfed than the ones in vanilla

[@bigbossns]

What mod were you playing?

[@martinbryaskov7709]

@@bigbossns literally the same mod, Diveda et Impera

[@warlord1198]

that is crazy bro good job i also had like similar battle in dei mod but it was capital defence i was playing as egypt and fighting selukia with litterly all armies in the east fighting selukids when out of a sudden some tribal faction in libyan deserts west of egypt attacked me directly sieging and assualting alexandria with 2 armies around 8k or 7k soliders i only had the garrison army and small army of 7 units 2 cavlary 4 phalanx pikemen unit and 1 archers i litterly fought at 2 sides at same battle one side fighting one of their 2 armies on the walls of the capital fort with the garrison army and another side where i had to fight their 2nd army with 20 units with only my 7 units and i had no walls advantage since this fight was out of the city i focused on fleeing them rather than killing them fighting their morale cuz they were tribes non organzied units so i knew it was impossible to kill them with my small and weak garrison army so i just scared them forcing them to retreat only killing 2k wih remaining soliders of them around 6k soliders fleeing from my remaining 900 garrison army haha

[@fatrat92]

Total war AI being as dumb as ever, lol.

[@metalltitan]

Pike camping is always a valid strategy when defending a fort or town with no walls. That wipe-out was nice to see though. Setup kinda reminds of Caesar's account of his battle against the Helvetii in Bello Gallico. He had his legions build a palisade wall with earthworks to stand on and then defended against the onslaught of the desperate Helvetii. Slaughtered them to a man and then went after the baggage train with all the women and children after they refused to surrender.

[@something4179]

With walls too...just block the staircases and gate with hoplites/phallangites. And then the meatgrinder begin. No need to fight for the wall just let them have them. And then missile fire into their massive blob. 4-6 solid phallangites with some cavalry for any possible sally out to flank them into the gates ideally. Or a lot of generic bowmen for being your main fast killing weapon. Any spendable militia can be used just to fill gaps if needed or as last ditch effort, all and all on average 5 phallangites can easily sway the battle to your favour to defend a walled city easily. Or a simple settlement. Your only concerns would be enemy missiles in the open settlements. Which you better deal with. 5 Phallanx MUST Defending Army 2-4? Militia (Garrison) 2-6? Archers (Garrison) 1-2? Cavalry (Garrison) No stack can defeat you with just those. Except Rome, yet even then just make sure get maybe few more units into the defending army and you will make it. As long as you know what you are doing by following the principles mentioned. Cavalry is barely an issue in sieges. Just have a few if you are bored and want to sally out from a second gate and go all the way around to pick a few easy kills. Unless they got a lot of cav then do not even bother. You do not have to. Their cavalry, be it missile or not will have to engage at some point in melee and they will never win a head to head against hoplites or phallangites even if exhausted. As far as wall city goes. For open just get a decent half stack or 15 units army at max. No full stack is meant to be defending unless heavily damaged hoping to replenish.

[@RigobertosTacoShop]

Good ol sarrisa phalanx. Can hold off entire armies in a chokehold.. I’ve won many a defense sieges with just 1 or 2 holding an entry

[@hetmanRTS]

They are the best!

[@mercurianrepublic5943]

i was playing with radious unit mod list once as suebi and i had some suebi pikes in my army during an offensive siege,they lost half their unit but got 1450 kills!I love those pike chokepoint moments.

[@fjordhusky9023]

Great video! I never tried to set barricades in between the pallisade walls and put pikes straight behind them! I always made the classic ''L-shape'' with the pikes and barricades facing inwards into the fort opening and then Pin the enemy either from 2 or 3 sides, depending on how many units I had. This setup seems to require even less units so thanks for sharing! Important with a proper hammer though, that COmpanion cavalry is so good!

[@hetmanRTS]

Glad you liked it! Consider joining my discord channel. We play games every weekend. discord.gg/WbA7hDTT

[@barcotics1880]

classic luring the enemy into a trap and then surrounding them

[@vikingsdawn1301]

My strategy was always to take as many as I could with me If I knew it was a losing scenario.

[@hetmanRTS]

You can't win them all.

[@Panos_Sa]

First of all nice battle! Second: you dont get friendly fire from your watch towers like Attila total war

[@hetmanRTS]

That's interesting. I was sure I lost some men today(not the same battle) to friendly tower fire.

[@DominatorGarage]

@@hetmanRTS you do get friendly fire, not sure what he is on about. zoom in and watch your guys get shot and die!

[@agagqbq]

funny to see spears glitching through walls was still not fixed in rome 2. i remember in the original rome you could just place these behind pallisades and they would kill any battering rams before they could hit your walls, incredibly broken

[@purplebull013]

Nice epic battle

[@hetmanRTS]

Glad you enjoyed it 😀

[@jarreauetcobanez3447]

i miss this game

[@hetmanRTS]

it's great!

[@Joel-xl2nt]

Awesome

[@hetmanRTS]

I'm glad you liked it :)

[@HectorNavarro-uh1mh]

Which mod do you have for the units to look like that ?

[@hetmanRTS]

Hi, Hector Mod is called Divide et Impera.

[@surinam911]

Did this a hundred times

[@adamgross1157]

200 man cav unit whaaaat?

[@hetmanRTS]

Hell yeah, baby!

[@slang15able]

What pc specs??

[@hetmanRTS]

r5 5600x RX 7800xt 16gb Vram 48gb ddr4 ram 2k monitor at 170mhz

[@Glazgo-po8ph]

Awesome, but enemy AI just bruh

[@hetmanRTS]

That's your Total War AI right there.

[@Br4Ker]

it is one pilum and two or more pila. :) Pilas is not correct.

[@hetmanRTS]

Damn you grammar Nazis!

[@ЗангарАскар-б1х]

What.? Why is the cavalry 200 pieces

[@hetmanRTS]

I'm using a mod for Rome 2 called Divide Et Impera. 200 men cav unit is available only to Macedonian generals, while normal cav units go from 100-120 men.

[@winja374]

Wait you know many kills they get in battle..... how😢

[@spainweddingphotography]

Sadly very stupid AI. They should have programmed them burning up the barricades of the fort and attack from all angles. Wish someone would fix AI.

[@SaxonBlade]

What is this mod??!!

[@SaxonBlade]

Oh it’s DEI, are the units like that in DEI? Haven’t bought

[@hetmanRTS]

Yeah, Divide et Impera is overhaul mod for Rome 2. It's fantastic! I recommend you to check it out.

[@MattZaharias]

⁠@@SaxonBladeRome 2 is 100% worth buying in 2024. DEI and the submods to customize it are awesome. Huge recommend. My dad and I are playing a Wrath of Sparta co-op campaign and I’ve got my own Rome Julii campaign.

[@SaxonBlade]

@@MattZaharias I have 1600 hours😅

[@SaxonBlade]

@@MattZaharias let’s coop, i love the Caesar in Gaul campaign in addition to Rome grand campaign (go Cornelia, -50% auxiliary upkeep)

[@muhammadgydaaulia8662]

Do you use any mod in this campaign?

[@hetmanRTS]

Divide Et Impera

[@teranbickler7454]

So the AI is just dumb as hell. Sweet.

[@MarcinWilk-td3jg]

DEI in my video game? 😡

[@hetmanRTS]

What?

[@Mitchel_The_Catalan]

@@hetmanRTS he's referring to the woke DEI (Diversity, equity and inclusion).

[@KeithR2002]

Im for DEI in othr fields , even if in historical fiction. But i would literally stop playing the day they do it in historical total wr imagine they made the Egyptians black in pharoah dynasties​@@Mitchel_The_Catalan

[@martinbryaskov7709]

@@Mitchel_The_Catalan no lmao he is reffering to the mod the youtube is using named Diveda Et Impera (DEI)

[@Logan0o]

man tw ai is so dumb rly wish they would fix it and make the game actually hard

[@Зигвальд]

Вау,форт,Македония.пики. Хардкон ,не иначе..

[@rizzo9748]

Hi. Why are your unit size is over 200? I thought 160 is maximum 😮

[@something4179]

It is a mod. If you are playing vanilla you are losing a lot of experiences...such as this one.

[@rizzo9748]

@@something4179 damn

[@hetmanRTS]

Mod's name is Divide Et Impera.

[@zackg6216]

This is why I cant play DEI it makes the Phalanx and Roman legion op. No fun to play as.

[@ReZw7a]

i agree with you on roman legions but pike phalanx are not that hard to deffeat they are really vunrebale to missiles and flanking if you flank them a little bit you can decicevely defeat them or a single charge in the rear will rout them because their strength is in their formation but hoplite are bit overpowered but still great mod to play with.

[@hetmanRTS]

It's not a mod problem, it's the barricades. They just prevent enemy units from getting to yours.

[@hereandnow3156]

Philangites lead Alexander the Great to the door step of India. Of course they're strong units, it wouldn't make sense to make them weak lol.

[@martinbryaskov7709]

You are extremely wrong, the pikes in this mod are nerfed than the ones in vanilla and get much much less kills, I mean after 20 minutes of fighting with one of my 1.3k pikemen units, they only had 300 kills and were down by 110 soldiers from original size, in comparison to the vanilla game I would probably have like 1000 kills if I had the same conditions

[@RigobertosTacoShop]

Bro you just gotta use different tactics