AGATHA All Along Ending Explained | Episode 8 & 9 Breakdown Every Marvel Easter Egg, Theory & Review

[@heavyspoilers]

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[@BuckyBarnesNC]

Where you been Paul? We miss ya man! MT is great but we also need the spoiler man!

[@dm7561]

Need Paul back. MT is NOT great. A lot of us watch Heavy Spoilers and Screen Crush and avoid New Rockstars. Totally jarring and unentertaining to have them pop up here and be so cringe

[@KatR264]

The ‘truth is far more awful’ because of the sheer number of witches’ souls that Agatha traded to Death in order to buy that time with her son - she didn’t trade 1 soul for the power of the darkhold, she traded a vast number of souls to buy more time with the 1 she cared about. Who knows how many witches like the 3 who died one the road, each with their own hopes and dreams, were deliberately murdered by Agatha during those 6 years (and afterwards during her rampage)?

[@lt.langle]

M.t. do you have s channel of you working here? I'd watch your content then new Rockstars or this channel hoping you show up.

[@TristanHathaway]

I think the truth that's more awful is that Agatha used a loving song between her and her son as a way of tricking and killing witches despite knowing her son didnt want her doing so

[@ghoststomper]

yeah, like did Agatha kill Alice's mother, she went "missing on the road" ?

[@ultrawolf4155]

@@ghoststomperAlice’s mother died in a fire on tour

[@riaglitta]

@@ghoststomper No, "on the road" in this case meant "while on tour," it's an idiom. But it helped add to the legend of the Road.

[@melissalafleur2986]

I think she meant how she wasn't able to save him.

[@prettycyber8332]

🎯

[@Sunstar808]

I like that Agatha began a villain and essentially stayed as a villain throughout the series. Not the normal redemption arcs used to water down villains in other projects. Agatha might have some affection for Billy but that’s it.

[@allisonpozzo]

Yup. Pretty sure the only reason that Billy survived is because he reminded her of her son. And because, like her son, he saw the potential for good in her.

[@moxypirate]

But Agatha really isn't a villain and she definitely isn't a hero. Her motivations are honestly pretty complicated and follow an ethic informed by her circumstance and history. I hope they explore this more in the next series.

[@Tizjiz]

Yep. I want to say sympathetic villain but she has shown selfishness throughout the entire show. She’s murdered her own coven multiple times and only spares Billy because he reminds her of Her dead son.

[@Sunstar808]

@moxypirate Tell that to all the innocent witches she tricked with the “witches road” in order to drain their powers and unalive them. 😳😬

[@Sung0d504]

@@moxypirateshe’s a serial murderer dude, after her kid died she never stopped.

[@briankirk9477]

It’s funny how they write the show so well that we feel empathy for Agatha as a mother, meanwhile she’s using her son for murder schemes the whole time he’s alive lmao

[@jakeroy8285]

I think she was trying to absorb as much power as possible in a desperate attempt to save his life when the time came

[@KatR264]

Death literally told her that she would have limited time with her son, she was killing all of those witches to keep Death happy and buy more time with her son: at least while he was alive.

[@chaunguyen5157]

SPOILERS: When Agatha was going from town to town and killing witches, was that to appease death? The one day Nicholas didn't do it, was when death took him. Were they related?

[@alexp601]

Everything in this video and this thread is a spoiler. And I'm guessing she just had to kill enough to keep Death away, not necessarily every day. That would be A LOT of witches and a lot of deaths over 6 years if it was every single day.

[@robpyoung]

I understood it as Agatha’s choice that brought Death. Agatha was okay with not killing any witches because Nicky wanted her to stop. It wasn’t the missed day. It was Agatha’s potential to change if Nicky wanted her to change. That caused Death to collect Nicky and spur Agatha into creating more bodies.

[@acm0045]

I thought this too, when she asked for more time and I thought Death would agree if she kept bringing bodies, but Nick was already looking sickly and randomly coughing towards his end. I think it was just coincidence. They would have made some sort of blatant reference, if that were true.

[@jamesbong42007]

Bingo

[@danielhenderson3753]

That's what I personally thought. Death waited until Agatha let her son's personal wish for peace overridde her own thirst for murder, then took him. Pretty low. But then again Death had been waiting and maybe also decided that enough was enough.

[@cadaverouspawn]

One thing I haven't seen anyone mention yet is that Nicolas was crying in hunger before Agatha entered the witches circle and fed on their magic. He stopped immediately after. And he died the same night he and Agatha didn't kill witches. She was using the lives of these witches to prolong his life, at least in part(maybe death left him alone as long as she got her bodies), and after he died she started doing it purely selfishly.

[@KeeKeeSoto]

This is interesting

[@danielhenderson3753]

Ah, that totally makes sense.

[@ThePlayTyperGuy]

Interesting. I originally thought it was part of a con, but a baby isn't that great an actor.

[@cadaverouspawn]

@ThePlayTyperGuy my personal theory is that she was originally acting out if a mother desperation to keep her son. After he died she started taking life selfishly to avoid Rio. She said she let people believe she traded her son for the Darkhold because the truth was too awful. The truth was she traded hundreds of lives for her son and he was the one to choose to end it. Even if he didn't understand the consequences of his actions he still chose to go with death in the end.

[@robpyoung]

I read the real tragedies as 1.) Death gave Nicky more time as long as he helped Agatha give Death bodies. As soon as that stopped, Death collected Nicky. Then 2.) Agatha kept giving Death bodies to delay her own death, so she wouldn’t have to be confronted with the shame of all that killing. So the truth that was more terrible than the Darkhold trade was that, knowingly or not, Agatha had killed hundreds (thousands?) of witches to give her son a few more years and delay her shame for centuries.

[@claytongriffith8323]

Thank you why is no one else catching on to that

[@RonAbernathy27]

That doesn’t make since because Lilia and Jen are also hundreds of years old without the need for murdering their sisters. Jen went 100+ years with no powers and still looks 30 something

[@wxywawjy626]

For point 2, Agatha kept killing because that was her way to deal with the d€ath of her child: anger. It wasn't to prolong her life imo. She never trusted other witches especially after her first coven betrayal.

[@darnell9806]

I don't think that was the deal with Nicky. I think he was supposed to die at birth and Death gave him a specific amount of more time because her and Agatha had a relationship. Agatha's power of killing witches and taking their power had nothing to do with it. She would have been doing that regardless.

[@ThePlayTyperGuy]

@@RonAbernathy27 Yes, the implication is that witches are inherently long lived, even without their magic. Agatha stealing witches' power isn't directly related to her longevity. (Also, worth noting that she's at least 80 or so when Nicky is born)

[@Sawyer0205]

Ilove that when Agatha was fighting Rio she did everything she learned from the road (and her coven) protecting with salt, using water to sure, absorbing power but not killing billy, predicting when río yelled coward, and the finally sacrificing her life

[@matteomatwallace]

“Why is that more awful” has been rolling around in my head all night. I think it’s because she was powerless to save him. For Agatha, feeling powerless is the worst thing she can possibly imagine. She is so afraid of being powerless that she would rather be evil.

[@Jay-xl4du]

That may have something to do with it, but I think that her truth is more awful because she used an innocent song that she created with her son who didn’t want to kill any more witches to continue to trick and kill witches after his death

[@mr.awesome6360]

Agatha would rather have people think she was evil and trade her son for power than she didn't have enough power to save him. Especially as power is her whole thing. Also, her son dying naturally would have limited the power of the road being able to give you the thing you want the most and she wouldn't have been able to fool as many witches a lot of whom I assume wanted back a loved one.

[@kellyflanagan3537]

What was so awful- she used her son to lure witches to her to steal their power.

[@lexruptor]

​@@kellyflanagan3537She loved Death and yet couldn't save her son from dying. She got time, but not enough time. The truth that's so terrible is that she turned his death into a con to get more power.

[@mr.awesome6360]

@@kellyflanagan3537 yea i think that's why she is not ready to face him

[@nickymo]

I’m always wrapped up in the internet discussions of my favorite shows as they air, I didn’t see anyone call the twist w the ballad, that Agatha and her son wrote it to lure unsuspecting witches etc. That was so wild and clever

[@wyattangle]

On those same boards, did anyone predict that Billy created this road? Not just the fact that the road had a lot of things from his bedroom, but the fact that there was no witches' road ever before him? That was a neat twist. The fact that he created it while running away from the cicada witch monster in the same way Wanda did while dealing with her grief? Chef's kiss.

[@Rmcrace2319]

@@wyattangle funnily enough, I saw a random TikTok video predicted and I instantly subscribed to the theory

[@cloudysunsets]

Only Exquisite Echidna predicted that billy created the road and that agatha made it up, genius. Even tho I was still surprised, I wish I didnt know before (Video title: PROOF agatha CREATED the witches road legend)

[@keithwoodcrest]

​@@wyattangleyeah, there were theories for weeks that Billy created the road

[@mythanita4292]

​@@Rmcrace2319 was it by the creator empress.solos/mythanita? If so that was me!

[@gatomon2002]

Loved Agatah's sacrifice, so beautiful, her finally doing something good and save billy when she couldn't save Nicky. Dunno if anyone else thought this, but the flowers, fungi, pants Rio creates for Agatha's grave was so touching, shows how much love Rio has for Agatha still.

[@TheoRae8289]

noticed a lot of them were succulents

[@goldmembxr]

Her body was just decaying quickly

[@joshmargolis1424]

Death threw everything at Agatha. Even the Kitchen Sink 😂

[@ivonnegallegos58]

I think the 'truth is too awful' was as I understood that Agatha had started to kill witches for Nick to stay alive so Rio would have 'her bodies' because the only day they didn't do it, was the day Nick died

[@DatKidJBB]

Wow

[@error_4004]

Such a good point!!! Love this take

[@alexp601]

that is A LOT of witches to kill if she had to kill some every single day for 6 years

[@ThePlayTyperGuy]

Also, Agatha might not have wanted to appear vulnerable and powerless. She preferred the narrative that she was callous but fully in control. She's not like Wanda, who always felt the need to justify the harm she inflicted.

[@Influx27]

Something to keep in mind: Mrs. Davis/Hart mentioned Westview's failed attempt at making a subway in episode 2. Likewise, the subway we see beneath the road in episode 7. It looks like Billy didn't so much as create the Road as he twisted what was already there into the Road.

[@1972EJ]

Given that mention of the subway and the later sight of the subway station, I would agree that Billy likely used the framework of the defunct subway system to create his road, all unconsciously. So it was "Billy All Along" in the making of the places that the trials were set in and the costumes.

[@alexp601]

Who?

[@GreekAl]

​@@alexp601 Garden Lady

[@mjslack3073]

9:23 Hear me out. Agatha is a liar, she’s almost always putting on a performance so she can get what she wants. I don’t think she did bound Jen, I think she was taunting her. Because she had realized that Jen bound herself (which is why the spell felt like it went on for a little long) and on that last “You hold nothing” Jen realized it too. She was too busy revealing in her powers and was gone before this could be resolved.

[@erickarnell]

Good call.

[@jaidenchaos9770]

I came to the comments to make this connection, but you did it much more concisely than I could 💙

[@Nion8six]

I didn’t think the implication was that they’re sharing a body, it seemed as though his brother was a wandering spirit, lost and alone. With Agatha guiding Billy through that purgatory, to locating his spirit, guiding him into a new vessel.. But I like your version better lol. Edit : damn, I missed my opportunity to say WANDA’ring.. 😢

[@blacmanish]

This was a fantastic series! The acting, writing, cinematography, special effects, all on point. Hell, episode 7 should be nominated for an Emmy. And Agatha was so damn cool, she had Lady Death simping lol 💔

[@yoda8963]

I don't think Nicholas' story is over. I still think there's much more there that may be uncovered in a future MCU project. I'm thinking maybe she acquired the darkhold to get her son back from death, but that plan backfired Pet Cemetery style. She tells Nicholas she had to kill witches for them to stay alive, and the first day Nicholas didn't, he died, so I'm thinking there's something more to that, too.

[@kevinz3905]

I think Agatha obtained the Darkhold by promising her firstborn child to Death. Remember, she had her purple dark magic a long time before she became pregnant, when her mother's coven tried to punish her in a flashback in WandaVision. Also in the finale of this series Death arrives as Agatha is about to give birth...and Agatha already knows she has come for the child, and not her. Also, it explains why she says that what actually happened to Nicholas was worse than what everyone assumed, and the meaning behind the hallucination she had in episode three of the Darkhold in the baby carriage.

[@wheeledjustice7381]

There are two ways to look at the more awful truth that Agatha mentioned. The more obvious interpretation is that she twisted an innocent song that her son wrote to con witches and steal their power. She's only ever loved one person and she betrayed even him. The more character study interpretation is that death comes for us all. She didn't lose him for any real reason and that's terrifying to her. His death was meaningless and that, to Agatha, is worse than him being a sacrifice. EDIT: I also need to mention how cool I thought Rio's rip was. It wasn't some fake looking CGI portal, it was just cutting straight through a green screen or matte painting.

[@Paintimenti]

This finale killed me in a way so good that I'll never forget it. Thank you for all the crazy good work you put into these breakdowns MT & Paul!

[@deatherbradley]

Death by a thousand cuts actually literally just cut people on different parts of body, missing all main arteries. So they literally get cut a thousand times. It’s brutal. 😂

[@damientom]

Theory: at the end of episode 5, Billy didn't try to kill the 3 remaining witche. He was subconsciously sending them off the road back to Westview, because the exit (the subway) was undergound. This was just have he after he argued that he wouldn't sacrifice others to achieve his witchy goals. He was probably subconsciously feeling guilty for Allison's death too, with some lowly awareness he created the road, in that moment.

[@ThePlayTyperGuy]

Great point.

[@giraffe4u93]

Was counting down for this vid!! Great work MT. You're a gem to the Marvel world!

[@MusicLover-my6fo]

Am I the only one who noticed the unanswered question that the finale opened up? If Rio took Nicholas Scratch in the night while Agatha slept, that means that she didn't trade him for more power as she led others to believe because the reality of Nicholas' time being too short was too painful for Agatha. That being said, since Agatha never traded Nicholas, how did she come into contact with the Darkhold in the first place? We saw that throughout the 20th century that Agatha conned witches using the mystique of the road to give up their powers unto her, so when and how did Agatha get the Darkhold to show it to Wanda at the end of WandaVision?

[@michelle-eu8er]

Wondered this too

[@keithwoodcrest]

Could've taken it from one of the witches she killed?

[@eden20111]

She had the darkhold way before with her first coven, that's why her mom wanted to kill her. Later, she used the darkholds magic to literally create Nicholas from scratch. She used no incantation, no spell. That's the power of the darkhold. So basically Nicholas is in essence a part of Chthon. So when Rio came to collect Nick, she was collecting him back for Chthon.

[@robsolf]

Let this series be a lesson to the Acolyte people in layering twists. I've started rewatching the show from the point where they do the ritual in the basement. Agatha's reactions to everything going on are PERFECTLY directed and acted. It's like a whole new scene.

[@watchwithmeellebee]

I just want to know who Nicholas Scratch’s dad is. 😂

[@TristanHathaway]

I wonder if he was created by magic. I might be wrong, but I thought Agatha said she created him from "scratch". I could be hearing things

[@kenko7735]

@@TristanHathaway “I spoke no incantation, I cast no spell”

[@kevz2474]

he was created by scratch...aka no man lol

[@dmoody4628]

God is the daddy

[@nameless695]

*insert 'Vergence in the Force' quip here*

[@CamsCorner_]

I have a friend who worked on the show and they said that the sink thrown at agatha was ACTUALLY PRACTICAL and NOT GCI! Loved this show and LOVED the MT breakdowns!

[@MusicLover-my6fo]

I wouldn't be surprised if Billy and Agatha make a cameo at the end of the VisionQuest series because I'm really hoping that Tommy's soul in his new body will be a strong B-plot in that series. It would be a great way for Marvel to tell two different stories moving the agenda of the Young Avengers forward before the Secret Wars.

[@eden20111]

But what is Visionquest going to be about? White Vision?

[@janetgraham-russell4476]

It would have been disappointing if they'd brought everyone back. It wouldn't have suited the drama.

[@ChrisLT]

Great show. The ending was just a long cliffhanger, but I'm surprised how excited I was to watch it each week.

[@ethanwood2934]

A big part that frustrates me about this finale is we never get explanations or expounding on the maiden aspect of Agatha. Why is she this powerful witch who can drain everybody but nobody can drain her? Why does she and rio have a relationship seemingly before Nicky is born? What does the dark hold have to do with this story at all (why does she need to kill witches if she has the dark hold)? Why is she running from nicky? Idk man it was a good show but I was definitely slightly disappointed by the ending. I was also frustrated that Lilia and Alice ultimately were just plot devices and didn’t cause a change in Agatha’s character. The twist that Billy created the road was good and I enjoyed the connections to previous episodes, it felt like they planned that from the beginning which I liked, it just felt in the end that spectacle was chosen over a fully cohesive plot and character growth. The show was a solid 8/10 for me, I loved the weekly watching and theorizing. The final episode just kinda took it down from a 9 to an 8 for me.

[@ethanwood2934]

Honestly I have been talking with my gf and actually we think it was the 8th episode that dropped the story down a point. There were the aforementioned plot holes, inconsistent character motivations, and a lack of a true underlying theme about reality/humanity. It doesn’t feel like Agatha or Billy learned anything that made them better or more capable as decision makers. Agatha getting force ghost treatment also does not sit well with me. The first episode was more or less irrelevant to the plot. I’m a stickler for character decisions impacting plot progression which in turn reveals a theme. It feels like they were stuck between deciding if Agatha was an antagonist or a protagonist, she doesn’t really do well as a grey character given her actions are so extreme and not realistically motivated (again where is the dark hold why is it not used to progress the audiences’ understanding of past Agatha’s decisions). What caused her first coven to try her? What makes Billy so special that he is the only one she doesn’t fully drain (ie I don’t find comparing Billy’s convictions to nicky’s to be strong enough given she murders covens seemingly for no reason after his death)? Why does Jen survive Agatha’s binding when nobody else does? Episode 9 would have been perfect if Agatha experienced a change in episode 8, but I don’t think she did. It is once again not helped by Agatha flip flopping on acting good or evil. To me it feels like ultimately the creatives were told by the executives how the characters of the show had to end and they were forced to make choices about the plot and characters that ultimately did a disservice to the underlying main message of the story. Again the show before last night was easily a 9/10 for me, it was solely the not sticking the landing that caused me to knock it down a point or two. Lastly, the Aubrey and Kathrine kiss was hot, 10/10 would watch again

[@danielhenderson3753]

Lilia taught her to rely on others (when she recalled to hit to deck). Alice and the fallout after her death taught her to consider not completely draining witches, or at least learn to control it.

[@brandonwong5751]

Great Breakdown MT! Thanks for your hard work explaining on the easter eggs and comic references.

[@robpyoung]

Whatever happened in their past, the only way Death would permit Agatha to stay alive was if Agatha didn’t change from the kind of person who would keep giving Death her dead witches. When Agatha told Nicky it was okay that they didn’t kill witches that day, Death came for Nicky as a way to control Agatha. Billy WAS able to get Agatha to change, and so Death took Agatha. So in the end, Agatha DID grow a bit, she was just able to pull one more fast one on Death with the ghost transformation.

[@beyond_the_tequila_rift3194]

These final two episodes were such an emotional roller coaster and chef's kiss!!!! The themes were mature, Agatha's motherhood moment struck deep and tragic 🔥💯 Billy's room universe realization reminds me of Franklin Richard's creating universe's under his bed sheets!!!

[@OhCarlJr]

If they are gonna bring Tommy back I don’t think it’ll be in a Young Avengers movie or show. If Vision Quest is happening, I’m predicting it’ll be there where we’ll see him again. With that show ending with all 3 of them reuniting and with Wanda returning as well..

[@theandrogynousmisogynist]

Wanda will be doomsday.

[@KK-yn2xb]

I love this story. Love it. But if Billy isn’t meant to be… why hasn’t the TVA come to prune him?

[@merrytunes8697]

Very insightful review! Agatha’s backstory and Billy’s reveal were mind blowing!

[@jamesismyfave]

My FAVORITE breakdowns! Thank you!!

[@ShadowMagick1979]

Just a theory here but Reo / Death said in the past that she could only offer Agatha / Nicholas time. I would assume from that statement that means that Agatha had to provide sufficient collateral damage / body count to hold death at bay. So when she is saying that the truth is so much worse the truth she is referring to is that she had to sacrifice countless witches just to give her son another day. And the last scene he was in was singing the witches road song but instead of tempting the witches to follow him he decided to spare their lives. And because there were that close to the payment to death being due he was essentially tired of killing countless innocent witches so that he could live a little longer

[@MrHelicx]

bro, how did you miss it? The reason why Agatha had to kill all those witches was to buy time for her son that last night. When nikki didn't want to kill, anybody was basically the same night, death came to take him.

[@TheV00d00D011]

Truly when Agatha said "because I can't face him!" - she's talking about Mephisto.

[@matproductionsgr]

I agree, I think He is the father

[@misst1078]

Watching the scene where the boy drowning by his friends was a tough scene to watch. That was sad.

[@roberts_archive]

So we still don’t know how Agatha got the Darkhold? We assume she acquired it in an attempt to bring her son back? But it doesn’t seem to fit in with her Mother’s coven issue with her practicing “magic above her station. “ because that occurred before Nicholas was born? Agatha’s past has some loose ends which is unfortunate in a show about her.

[@Nicole-zr1me]

MT has gotta be staying up all night for us… wow! The speed!

[@petersaysthings]

The part about trying to find a body for Tommy (“am I killing this boy so my brother can live?”) that’s ended with Agatha’s quiet, sad utterance “No, Billy. Sometimes… boys die” had so many layers. Agatha has clear motherly instincts toward Billy because of the loss of Nicholas, whom she couldn’t save from Death despite taking the power of so many witches over the centuries. So she hides an aura of sympathy for Billy, knowing he has powers he doesn’t fully understand yet and that he wants to be a good person who doesn’t kill anyone. But ultimate power can easily corrupt him as it did her, and deep down, she doesn’t want that for him because she knows the loneliness of what it’s like to have ultimate power, yet be alone and powerless to save someone you love. The illusion of The Road is a quest to the core of who Billy and Agatha are. Both walk away fundamentally changed by it. I love how it starts off with him admiring her and wanting to learn from her as a familiar, yet ends with Agatha having a greater respect and learning from him, so much so that she sacrifices herself so that he can live-something she was unable to do for her own son. Now she's his ghost familiar. I LOVE that. The way she challenges him in taking her under her wing with subtle comments suggesting "you don't want to end up like me, do you?" shows how much she respects him as the son of her former rival too. She knows she's the only one who can help him sort out the riddle of his own power, so she plays up her evil, conspiratorial personality as a way to string him along until he gets it. I just loved Agatha and Billy's dynamic so much. 💙

[@GirLCoOp3]

I took the "more awful" line to mean that she knew that Death would come for him and instead of valuing the time she would have with him, she used him to kill witches. She admitted that she was helpless to save him so she wouldn't become more powerful or save him by giving Rio more bodie, but who knows 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@TheDigitalFunk]

I literally eeped when Billy flew in wearing full costume!

[@veearce3384]

Yes absolutely, I gasped and clapped 😂😂

[@Catfullofwok]

It looked kinda cringe

[@tamarajohnson6299]

I was watching it at work and started screeching

[@1972EJ]

@@Catfullofwok Not as cool in live action as in the comic books, I thought, and him flying in on wires was a bit awkward, too. I liked how they combined the ragged cape of the Wiccan costume with Billy's civilian wear of a red hoodie. I was happy enough to see that Billy had acquired his comic book costume. I was also happy to see that he'd gotten more control over his powers.

[@flavsdepadua8516]

why didn't the road let alice go the moment she broke the curse?

[@dorianh3986]

Because what she wanted was to find her mother.

[@matproductionsgr]

What "special treatment" did Death give to Thanos in the comics excactly? She manipulated him, made him fall in love with her and chase her giving her SO MANY GIFTS (souls), made him mad (he didn't even know if she excisted), made him her bitch and in the end she dumbed him (this could also have happened in the MCU but was just not shown to us). She treated him like crap, nothing special about that. She hated him and just used him. She even made him kill his parents! She gave Agatha six years of life with her son who wasn't supposed to live even a minute.

[@imanimoonchild]

These last two episodes left me with questions and plot holes in the story. I would like to hear more about Jen , why and how Agatha bound her? Did Agatha kill all those witches to keep Rio away from her son? And the BIG QUESTION IS what's up with Agatha and Rio relationship? How did they meet? This wasn't a satisfying ending to rhis show but an interesting one. I still enjoyed watched it 😊

[@jedipsy]

What plot holes?

[@voiceinject]

thanks for covering this T, it's criminal that paul didn't want to cover this

[@alisachamoy225]

This was the most comprehensive and clear explanation of what happened. Thanks for the video!

[@kevz2474]

i like how they went to a more comic agatha at the end...not a bad show at all.

[@ALEX.TV.Joshandjosh]

MT we love it when you are here! Give this man a raise

[@TheoRae8289]

Interesting thing about that Buffy episode: There's a line in a song where Buffy sings about how she had moved on when she died (after sacrificing herself to save Dawn--who was a magical item given a body) and was at peace, but she was forced to come back to life against her will by Willow IIRC. 🤔Interesting choice of episode to use as a poster. They could have thumbed their noses and used the film poster, or literally any generic promo poster. But they chose Once More with Feeling.

[@briannaamos7572]

Thank you Mt for the breakdowns❤.

[@TheHi-NoteFunClub-BeatsByMike]

Apologies for the nitpick and/or if this has already been mentioned in a previous comment, but at the beginning talking about afterlives... I'm assuming you meant Valhalla instead of Asgard when referring to the Norse afterlife. P.S. just to be sure I am not misconstrued, MT - I am an absolute fan of your videos, and think your theories are some of the most insightful on KZbin. (In A lizardy voice...) Love your suit.

[@calb9261]

I can't wait to see how they introduce Hulkling!!!

[@charlesd9949]

GO DISNEY GO!!! What MARVEL is doing with the MCU is AWESOME, I can't wait for Daredevil Born Again it will be the best show on DISNEY+ and any other streaming service hands-down! Agatha All Along set the bar high!

[@ericacolon263]

Thank you! Happy Halloween 🎃

[@swrpggm]

Best damn breakdown online as always.

[@nickymo]

Doing great work out there MT! Thanks for the coverage

[@vbmorris81]

I've got the sadness you get after finishing a good show or movie....😢❤love this show

[@TheBlappOfUs]

Great work as always mt!!

[@hectormedina2205]

Tommy’s shoes that he drowns in is Saucony… so comfortable… just sayen.

[@TheoRae8289]

My last pair were Saucony, can second the comfort

[@colliszador9785]

"Where in the world is Tommy San Diego!?" ... MT! 😂😂😂

[@kevz2474]

its so hilarious to me that agatha was playing witches with the same trick for centuries 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@BP_on_ice]

My theory is that Agatha kept Rio busy/distracted by killing witches! and sucking up their power is just a nice bonus! when Death didn't have bodies to take, she took Nicholas. Agatha is a villain, and I really like that they kept her as a villain!

[@VilikesaTuragakula]

Like Wiccan, I love how we got comic-accurate Agatha, but I realized something cooler: Agatha acted as Wanda's babysitter and therapy guide in WandaVision; and Billy's now- spirit guide in this show, which is also comic-accurate about her. So Agatha was accurate all along!!!!❤😊😊

[@tk_wanderlust]

I think the truth that was 'more awful' was more the story of how she lost him was so Human, but also him, his creation of the Song, and what followed after his death (her using their song to drain all those covens and witches over the years), when he didn't want that for them/her

[@dreamsofink2780]

@@tk_wanderlust this. I think she welcomed that story to help her put up a facade that she was evil and villainous. Don't get me wrong she was but at her core she just wanted now time with her baby. People wouldn't fear that description vs she gave her son up to access unimaginable power and that also kept people from getting too close. Losing a child leaves a scar you NEVER truly heal from. It wasn't until Billy came through and reminded her so much of Nicholas that she let him in. Telepathically, emotionally and all.

[@wisemoon40]

Another interesting Easter egg in the “Once More With Feeling” poster: the heart of this musical episode was… SPOILERS …Buffy’s friends thought she had been trapped in a Hell dimension, when in reality Buffy had sacrificed herself to save the world. They couldn’t accept her death so they performed a dark ritual to resurrect Buffy. In this episode Buffy reveals that actually, she had been in Heaven and coming back to Earth was literally Hell for her. This theme of life, death, sacrifice and resurrection resonates with the overall themes of this entire show.

[@Chelseadram]

YES!!! ❤❤ thank you for this lol I’m so glad you wrote this out so I didn’t have to 😎

[@DarianStone11]

Did he say AgaThots?😂😂😭😭😭

[@ThePlayTyperGuy]

So, Billy leaves for Westview at night. It's early morning when Agatha is fully released from her spell and presuming it's early evening when they enter the Road, it's probably the next morning when Agatha dies. (Time can move at its own pace within the Road.) I presume "you've been gone for 24 hours" just means that his parents only noticed he was missing until the morning after he left.

[@JordiVanderwaal]

I loved that Billy had a Buffy episode in his room.

[@davidchism6081]

12:56. The effort that went into making her face partially skeletal.

[@Yaddel-mk3md]

Love the little nufc clip in here, last thing I expected to see haha

[@1972EJ]

I've enjoyed your breakdowns of the show. :) When you went deep into predictions about future Disney+ shows and movies, I thought you would mention that in the comic books, Billy is named William after Simon Williams -- Wonder Man. The timing in the MCU was such that it didn't work for WandaVision. I'm rather looking forward to Eric Williams, the Grim Reaper, coming into the MCU. Wonder Man stories in the comics were often a mixture of super-heroics and horror. I'm interested in seeing how they strike that balance.

[@matmanofficial2000]

4:08 Norse afterlife is Valhalla not Asgard

[@cosmicfire5010]

Valhalla is only for warriors

[@matmanofficial2000]

@cosmicfire5010 and Asgard isn't an afterlife at all

[@cosmicfire5010]

@ ok?

[@ultramagchen1]

You are the best at this

[@MercedesDiane]

I think the truth that Agatha see’s as more awful is that she wasn’t able to save him. As a powerful witch who’s feared, it must be painful to know and worse to admit to others that no matter how much power she took she still couldn’t save him from death.

[@scottdostie3239]

I absolutely love your breakdowns.

[@WatchMilesTV]

I’m shocked you guys didn’t draw a parallel in the Billy realizing it was him all along scene to Usual Suspects. Both Billy and Verbal/Kaiser used the elements in the room to create the scenes of the entire movie/show.

[@joshuasullivan9501]

The part when they drowned the other boy gave me chills because never thought marvel would do something like that

[@L-trx]

Thanks for the breakdown, good stuff, tons I missed. Did catch the "Häxan" poster tho (16:05), it's for the movie "Häxan" from 1922 by Benjamin Christensen.

[@NoKumbaya88]

Love the fact that Agatha had always been evil even in death. But her son and Billy was her only soft spot!!!!! Even in Wandavision, her relationship with Billy and Tommy was mutual. They've embraced Agatha's decisions!!!!!

[@TYMMSTER]

The way Billy and eventually Tommy came back, is also a way they could bring Quicksilver back actually as well, especially if Wanda is still around.

[@mortonpegues1756]

I think the reason Nicky lived for the amount of time he did was because Agatha made a deal with Death to give her souls. Cuz soon as he stopped or skipped helping his mom get souls he died that night

[@carter358]

@16:04 HAXAN is a 1922 documentary (yes, it's silent and yes, they made documentaries back then) about witchcraft in Europe. I can attest to it's awesomeness.

[@andrewbell4897]

Bro.. watching your review of the episode on an edible, totally explained the entire dark side of the marvel … like taking an 11th grade high school class in American history 🤝🏾

[@ZaMorant1733]

MT FOR THE Breakdown WAKE & BAKE 🔥💪🏾

[@MsBroadway209]

I’m right there with you! I was wondering why the truth was more awful when he just died in his sleep. Until I saw someone on a separate video bring up a good point. They theorized that in order to buy Nicholas time, Agatha had to continually kill witches to give to death in exchange for more time for her son. Whether that’s true or not, I have no idea. But that could be the awful truth she’s referring to.

[@KieranBrooklyn]

9:00 - When I watched it I assumed that Agatha was lying to Jennifer about binding her, as she knew that Billy was controlling the road and could give Jen her powers back. The story that Jennifer told seems real as she claims to have had them before the meeting and then lost them after

[@dhruveparoda9498]

I loved being a bad witch and an agathot Thanks for the coverage MT!

[@feraligaytr1576]

37:14 I like how this started as a breakdown of Agatha and ended in a Mephisto rant lol

[@terrorsnom_5614]

Thank you so much, i need to understand whats going on in order to talk to my friend about it

[@Endgame_01]

Rio saying that Billy's existence messed up the balance reminded me of the Elder God telling Raziel that vampirism trapped the essence of life, throwing the wheel of fate out of balance

[@tera_xoxo]

Thank you for breaking down this series!

[@Virgo.goddess]

MT I was waitin on you! We're at the end and I still cant decide if i wanna be a bad witch or AgaTHOT