Defunctland: The Downfall of Disney's Official Airline, Eastern Airlines

[@Defunctland]

Hey everyone! Thank you so much for watching the episode. Also, thank you to Jake Williams of Bright Sun Films for helping me with my first (and probably last) airline history video. Go check out his channel as if you haven't already! kzbin.info/door/5k3Kc0avyDJ2nG9Kxm9JmQ

[@skylon01]

You and Jake together is completely and utterly amazing. You two are some of my favorite youtubers.

[@adventuresblissconnection4198]

Defunctland Jake is dope as well!

[@adventuresblissconnection4198]

What skylon bellows said

[@thespian302]

Yea probably best that this is the last airline vid. Didn’t really fit in the channel.

[@liviniarose5]

A quick thing: I actually have some interesting marketing pictures of an in-development Disney World (It was a marketing thing between Disney and Eastern Airlines), promoting both Disney World and the airline. I got them with my dad in an auction, I could send you the pictures if you're interested? Just thought they would be cool, considering the video!

[@hasfeelingstoo]

-decides to make a video about Disney's Airline -starts with the invention of the airplane This is why we love you, Kevin.

[@overlookers]

Kevin: **starts episode on Kingdom of The Dinosaurs** Kevin: _Over 65 Million Years ago..._

[@Titleknown]

>:Start of video: "So, the airplane was invented in 1903..." >:End of video: "And that's why capital will always destroy everything good it creates for the sake of capital's profit motive, and we must as a society make the ultimate choice between the interests of capital and the interests of labor in our organizational methods!" ...I mean this as a compliment of course.

[@Micbro]

If you watch SkillUp, this is exaclty what he did (but with coke vs. pepsi) at the beginning of his Destiny 2 Forsaken review

[@SirBlackReeds]

@@Titleknown A response of his to another user seems to contradict that "End of video" part.

[@Titleknown]

@@SirBlackReeds Looking at what I'm presuming you're speaking of, tru, and it's a bit of hyperbole on my part. It's certainly unlikely it's directly endorsing an ideology like; say; a lot of the leftist KZbinrs I like. And, of course, you gotta make money even if your ideology is anticapitalist in this hellscape. But, I've always been a proponent of the idea that a creator's views tend to leak out into their work in terms of themes, and I'll say that the project of Defunctland as a whole seems more leftist than it isn't. If only because of how by its very nature it treats those things discarded by capital as art, and looks at the roles the battles between capital and labor and capital's role in ultimately destroying these works of art. I hold no love for Adorno's role in media critique, and part of that is because I think anticapitalism is much better sold by virtue of capitalism destroying/burying what good the laborers under it create. IE, less "Capitalism creates garbage I hate like jazz and Donald Duck" and more "Capitalism killed practical creature effects in film" and, more relevantly, "Capitalism killed beautiful works of rideable art and replaced them with SCREENS!"

[@stonebutch]

shout out to that dog who saved all those passengers tho what a good boy

[@TeruteruBozusama]

I saw once a documentary about a hotel that started to burn, so the cat living there meowed at every door until everyone got out. When they rebuilt the hotel they put cat doors in every door so the cat has easier access :D. So humans had been long gone for sure if not for other animals..!

[@Οδοιπόρος]

Yes he is. Ohh yes he is.

[@paolomacatangay9664]

Haha

[@gabzisntgabz]

That was my favorite part of the video.

[@mfitzburger5137]

@@TeruteruBozusama can we get a name of the documentary, maybe the hotel it was? I love cats more than anything, so it'd be a great watch.

[@claystripe6514]

Rickenbacker telling his fellow crash survivors to Be Cool About Fire Safety while pinned under wreckage with every bone in his body broken is the most badass thing I've heard in a long time

[@casacara]

Legend has it that the karmic boon he incurred spared a descendant of his who foolishly tried to throw out a burning pan of fry oil

[@superspacehero]

@@casacara Are you talking about that guy in the gif with him and a droid?

[@moffittmusic]

@@casacara if only the plane had been equipped with the Bearbags™ that his descendent ended up creating, he may not have had to be cool about fire safety to begin with... IT'S ALL CONNECTED

[@thedeserthawk2093]

HE BROKE NEW GROUND!!!

[@dillonwarcup6426]

TBF if I was pinned under a plane wreck I probably wouldn't want the other survivors setting it on fire either

[@arkjag2991]

"Dislocated eye" That hurts just thinking about it.

[@rickbakker6589]

it does.

[@rickbakker6589]

@@xww6849 I don't think you are informed well mate, just look up the symptomes on google... It has litterly nothing to do with your eye popping out of its socket.

[@jstyxx4110]

So, did it pop out of the socket? Was he supposed to mean “Dislodged”?

[@jasj122]

matt whoa-

[@BenLA5]

@matt how the hell do u dislocate your eyes???

[@Dexieboi2013]

"It only costed 60 dollars" Hey, that's pretty chea~ "Which is 800 dollars today" Oh...

[@jmason2838]

........ c. o. s. t.......

[@gostigoo6706]

@@jmason2838 yeah what they said

[@pilothaha]

That is literally me every time I watch these kind of videos.

[@pilothaha]

@Nature Taco that is what they saideded

[@Jose04537]

I wish I can travel back in time with my current salary.

[@tyrannostoragerex3637]

6:04 *salutes heroic dog, whose name is lost to history but lives on in our hearts*

[@QuiGonJohn1999]

I’m naming them Hero

[@Mxmusicaddict]

The goodest of doggos

[@abbycollins]

@@QuiGonJohn1999 no matter his name, he is still the "goodest boy".

[@nathanbessman261]

there's probably as many dog heroes as humans

[@yellowflowerorangeflower5706]

Lol

[@carolin2544]

Eddie was a true badass. Stuck under a wreck, tons of injuries, but still warns the others about the danger of accidentally setting the whole thing on fire.

[@timothymclean]

I mean, he's probably the one who would be affected most by that. Most of the other passengers could at least run away...

[@seasnaill2589]

@@timothymclean I know right? Passenger: "Lets break out the flares!" Rickenbacker, in pain and pinned under a mountain of metal and jet fuel: "PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD NO!"

[@amoureux6502]

@@timothymclean it's just impressive that he was the most clear-headed about it. The others wouldn't be able to run from a gasoline fire very well, the fumes ignite and you'd be engulfed before you could get anywhere

[@mothiiee]

@@amoureux6502 yea also like. Since ppl would have had to crawl out of the wreckage so they would have probably gotten covered in jet fuel

[@chaseosborn9323]

Based on the title, I thought this video was going to be about another one of Eisner's ridiculous ideas.

[@lukeob1981]

Everyone did

[@oakpineranch]

Yep. Classic clickbait

[@garchomplord5081]

Would you blame anyone for thinking that?

[@caroline4145]

i literally had to delete my "who the fuck thought a disney airline would be a good idea? oh, eisner probably" comment

[@pisces2569]

I thought Disney actually started their own airline

[@SAVikingSA]

"His audacity baffled many" I feel like that line is uniquely prevalent in American history

[@Ellron23]

Eh that line is applicable to many points in ancient history.

[@circleinforthecube5170]

@@zerobullets6935 humans have a lot of audacity

[@stevenschnepp576]

@@Ellron23 Yes, typically appearing every century or three. Contrast that with America, where it appears every other week.

[@Ellron23]

@@stevenschnepp576 nah

[@FSEThompson]

Somehow it's the expression on the dog's face that is killing me out of all this. Like this animal just has absolutely no idea what the fuck is going on but it's saved so many peoples lives. And its just looking at its owner wondering when dinner is

[@kattriella1331]

You've gotta love dogs. They have no idea what's going on at any given time, they're just happy to be there.

[@HandmadeGoose97]

Its funny how he starts these videos with stories that aren't connected, but turns out everything is connected at the end. Keeps me motivated on how all of these are connected and another example why this channel is great

[@hlaskjhfklsdhflsakdk]

All the pieces matter

[@virgenfj]

I know. I thought I had clicked on a wrong video.

[@AznPandaFTW]

It's like Kingdom Hearts and the side games

[@pleasedontwatchthese9593]

It's like a movie where everyone they show you will be used later

[@PocketCrab]

I wish it talked more about the Disney side of things rather than that subject only adding up to around 3-4 minutes of a 21 minute video. Otherwise the video did deliver on the title that it was pretty much the entire history of an airline.

[@SonofMrPeanut]

"Cereal-Box Caliber Items" I love this categorization.

[@iscander_s]

*caliber

[@SonofMrPeanut]

@@iscander_s Thanks. I've edited the word above.

[@garchomplord5081]

I believe “Cereal-Box Caliber items” is the scientific term

[@kvltizt]

Kellog's Tier Bullshit

[@trollcop4504]

Do a defunctland on my parents marriage

[@hardcoremagicalgirl]

Oof

[@bjorntheviking6039]

Oh god the feels.

[@jimjob28]

"It all started about 4.5 billion years ago..."

[@shawnjavery]

It all started with alchohol...

[@jennamcfly]

I’m crying at this 😂

[@gianrivera2293]

My grandpa worked as a plane engineer for Eastern Airlines during the 80's in Miami and he loved it. He still has a bunch of uniforms, patches, pictures, tools and even forks, spoons, and knives with the company's branding on it. He was in the union as well and told me the owner sold the company as a middle finger to all the unions.

[@dominantwolf4593]

Large unions hurt everyone. The short gains the employee get are well short lived and often lead to hostility which creates bad quarters and layoffs to prevent bankruptcy Edit: WHEN I SAY LARGE UNIONS I AM TALKING ABOUT GOVERNMENT SECTOR LIKE TEACHERS UNIONS AND NURSING UNIONS. POINT AND CASE, THE PANDEMIC HAS EXPOSED THEM AS DETRIMENTAL TO INSTITUTIONS AND THE PEOPLE THEY CLAIM TO SERVE.

[@drewgehringer7813]

@@dominantwolf4593 ah yes the employees should just shut up and take whatever management gives them

[@dostayer3369]

@@drewgehringer7813 there's a difference between "shut up and take what the management gave them" to not accepting an concession even if the company goes belly up...

[@cardemis7637]

@@dostayer3369 Ah, but notice how the ceo was so quick to cut corners in everyone else's paychecks... except his own. Consistently.

[@TheGryfonclaw]

@@dostayer3369 Except a concession was made, and the CEO agreed to it - it was the board that gave the middle finger to both the union and the CEO.

[@NorthernContrarian]

-"Quiet like a library" Damn they had loud libraries back then....

[@EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo]

I love how comfortable the man looks and is happy knowing that

[@FoXenthusiast42]

@Sebas7710 have you contracted emojiizim

[@FoXenthusiast42]

@Sebas7710 and let me guess was that when you posted that comment?

[@FoXenthusiast42]

@Sebas7710 oof. So are you over it or do you still have it? I am going to guess you are over it since you haven't spammed emojis yet

[@FoXenthusiast42]

@Sebas7710 Good to hear! I hope you don't catch it again!

[@Jess-tg1yg]

The production values of this series are incredible. I feel more satisfied as a viewer watching one episode of Defunctland than I do watching several episodes of most "real" television/history shows. And I didn't even think I was interested in airline history! Brilliant, brilliant work, thank you.

[@weeman1357]

I couldn't agree more, well said.

[@sillygoose635]

oh stop it. those history tv shows ARE real.

[@ariiblink]

Stevie wdym real ? This is real too it’s just as informative

[@ladycavalier]

This 👏👏👏

[@nacitalatincirli793]

@@sillygoose635 than what are doing here? go watch REAL content

[@TheLegend1800]

-Turns on a video about shut down theme park attractions "On December 17th, 1903..." OH BOY HERE WE GO

[@otaking3582]

And then somehow Trump gets involved. Because why wouldn't he?

[@ohitsstar1241]

Gamerfrommars 2.0

[@ck-1649]

AH SHIT, HERE WE GO AGAIN

[@jackthorton10]

All it takes is a single spark, for the biggest of infernos.... the rise of the airplane ✈️

[@judibickford5306]

I remember flying to Orlando on Eastern. I kept telling EVERYONE on the plane that I was going to see Mickey. Just to (probably) shut me up a flight attendant, then of course called a stewardess, took me to see the cockpit. I was AMAZED. The pilot asked me if I wanted to be a stewardess and I told him, "No sir! I want to be a pilot!"

[@Ambipie]

They probably liked kids and realized you were pestering kid haters and wanted you to squeak in an audience of moms

[@GrayD_Fox]

Did they laugh and say “sure kid sure”

[@emilyofjane]

I’m so mad they don’t do that anymore. I would’ve geeked out SO HARD

[@GiroKuluBOWSER]

​@@emilyofjane Blame 9/11 for that 🙄

[@zhuyu9268]

Did everybody clap?

[@ShakeItLittleTina]

This is one of the most frustrating episodes of Defunctland, every executive was just like “I know what to do. I’ll just do nothing! I know it didn’t work before, but that’s just because they didn’t do enough of nothing. This makes sense, I can’t wait to get a pay raise for my genius handling of this situation.”

[@timothymclean]

Which is more important: Solving problems, or personal profit? Yeah, there's a reason neither of us are corporate executives.

[@troykv96]

It's wild to think that Lorenzo could so open about his way of doing stuff, that is asking to be hated by everyone, like, his actions were even problematics for his investors, considering how he pretty much killed a company in an attempt to make maximum profit from it... And it could have worked if he wasn't so loud about it.

[@DaSilverJoker]

Killing the company isn't a problem for people like Lorenzo because they just take assets for themselves before filling for bankruptcy. They just proceed to buy or fund new companies and repeat the process, sometimes with some cool government handouts.

[@troykv96]

@@DaSilverJoker Oh yeah, some people just want to take assets from themselves regardless of how many lives they ruin in the process.

[@AEMoreira81]

That is why he would end up banned from the industry in a few years. Today, JetBlue has largely replicated the legacy Eastern Airlines network.

[@toastehh09]

US citizens don't have rights

[@craigj.7035]

This is easily the most effort I have ever seen into a KZbin channel. I though at first they were Tv documentaries that were all transported to KZbin! Absolutely incredible

[@craigj.7035]

terry_r3d what kind of videos do they make?

[@craigj.7035]

terry_r3d interesting I’ll check it out👍

[@rogerthepeanut8547]

If you're into video games, you should also check out Gaming Historian. Similar documentary style videos but about video games instead of amusement parks.

[@drdewott9154]

If you're looking into high quality mini documentaries then check out Mustard. He makes very high quality video's on technological wonders and flops and everything in between. Here, I'll link you 2 of them, on the Never built Boeing 2707 Supersonic and the Shinkansen Bullet train kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2qUi6VqbZWHpJY kzbin.info/www/bejne/imSvfZqwhMSDqKs

[@craigj.7035]

DrDewott thanks m8 I’ll check them out

[@ledah494]

ceo: "i tell you with all my, uh..." *checks writing on hand* "honesty"

[@lakrids-pibe]

I'm not going to say I told you so, but I TOLD YOU SO I TOLD YOU SO!!!!

[@JacklynBurn]

The way he smirks when he says that, like he can barely hold back laughing....

[@davidlewis5312]

@@JacklynBurn hey, when this goes to shit, he's getting a severence package, they aren't.

[@twyckoff87]

That was so fucking evil

[@ThatLaloBoy]

@@twyckoff87 he was a jerk, but he also wasn’t wrong. They refused to negotiate. Eastern got bought by Lorenzo, who didn’t even give them the time of day, and thousands were laid off.

[@TheSameYellowToy]

My late grandma used to work for Eastern Airlines in the 1940's and loved it. Wish I could've shown her this.

[@ONInonymous]

My dad used to work for Eastern. Back then our family was doing well, we were saving up to move out of a rather uncomfortable living situation, he'd even started putting a small bit aside to help pay for my college...and I wasn't even out of elementary school! Then Eastern went down and our lives were changed forever. We barely kept our financial heads above water. My mom, who had up to that point been a stay-at-home mom, took on a job to help make ends me. When Eastern was running, we received discounts on air fair that allowed us to fly down to Florida and visit my grandparents often...when they went down, we had to drive, which took longer and cost more. It took us decades to get back to the level of financial stability that Eastern had given us, and by the time it did...well, that's more of a personal story.

[@oooh19]

Wow! Yea people don't realize how companies effect other people

[@felinefatale9336]

@@oooh19 Makes me feel bad with disney and google's record of picking up and dropping projects

[@OldmanJables]

It is truly impressive how great Eastern was to their employees even despite all of their labor disputes. My grandfather worked for Eastern for 40 years as an Air Traffic control guy and was able to retire in the 80's somehow dodging all of the layoffs of the time. His pension and accrued savings were so incredible they lasted my grandparents 30+ years with ample savings left after he passed, even despite his gambling addiction. That's sort of financial prosperity is simply not possible in our modern economy and it's a god damned shame.

[@gsxerwhite]

Same thing happened to me when TWA went under

[@wasd____]

Same situation happened to my uncle when TWA was floundering. He started working there right out of high school, never went to college. But they paid well enough that he was able to afford a house, and set about for the next decade or so working on paying it off using the comfortable salary he was making... then, surprise, TWA is over. He had to struggle for a long time working HVAC maintenance service calls, electrical work, odd stuff like that. He was able to keep the house, fortunately, and eventually find worthwhile pay at a good, steady job, but man, it could have been close. People on top don't realize how their petty fuckery over dollars and cents translates to the real-life struggle of people on the bottom. :(

[@ironwoodnf]

Peter Pan: Can you fly?? Oddly convenient airline: you can

[@arigon648]

Beginning of video: Why do I feel like Eisner is involved? End of video: Wow, Eisner isn't involved at all

[@gladitsnotme]

Just Trump lmfao

[@thronezwei4412]

@@gladitsnotme Who, as is often the case, was one of the touches of death. Though in all fairness, it sounds like it would've died with or without him here.

[@overlookers]

Doing the equivalent of pissing on a terminaly ill paitent before skedaddling :/

[@TooCooFoYou]

@@thronezwei4412 Trump was there to smother the dying company or pull the plug for its life-support.

[@SirBlackReeds]

@@thronezwei4412 One could argue that it was a mercy killing.

[@kolonarulez5222]

7:13 What a total natural conversation between two kids. It's like they had a hidden camera

[@lanceturley7745]

Honestly, I have a cousin who could talk about trains for hours when he was that age, so it's not too hard for me to believe that a boy from that time would be so interested in airplanes. Some kids have a habit of obsessively learning everything they can about things they like.

[@marleine]

Just some kids... Hanging by an airport runway...

[@DarkOmegaMK2]

@@marleine skipping school.

[@PandaXs1]

I was there, filming them, everyone applauded

[@SubSonicGorilla]

“. . in the tail assembly! That’s why the ride is so quiet.”

[@ShootingStarNeo]

"A dog led the plane crash survivors to a nearby house." THAT'S A GOOD BOY

[@rballenny]

My father worked for eastern in Miami in the 80s. I sat on his shoulders picketing downtown against Lorenzo’s war on unions. He deeply loved that company and still has heart for it. Lorenzo destroyed it.

[@anthonybanchero3072]

I believe Lorenzo indirectly affected Pan Am with the bidding war for National Airlines.

[@cwill2127]

Jesus he was a sadistic fck. Like no morals

[@tremorsfan]

That joke from The Simpsons finally makes sense: Because at Eastern Airlines world domination is our goal.

[@Dabednego]

I CAN'T SEE ME LOVIN NOBODY BUT YOU

[@WorldTravelA320]

Pan Am said "sit down silver boy" we already own the world.

[@ghosthunter858]

If you made just straight history videos I’d watch them endlessly. “Defunct land: civil war” Sign me up.

[@SenisPucker]

You could almost justify it by classifying the Confederacy as 'defunct'.

[@satagaming9144]

@hi there *atlanta burns in the distance*

[@EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo]

Followed by surviving clips of the Cival War

[@aidanlindell2260]

Matthew Chatmon "Defunctland: The Iranian Hostage Crisis"

[@cyrex686]

Too many history videos around anyway, he has a good nitche

[@medes5597]

I love how these videos have developed and evolved from being about closed theme park rides, to becoming a detailed documentary series on the cultural impact of various theme parks upon the world around them, using defunct rides and closed theme parks as the starting point. The quality, research and structure is honestly among the absolute best on KZbin and shows how devoted Kevin is to the subject Lorenzo really was part of those 70s and 80s CEOs who turned out to be the harbingers of late stage capitalism. Soulless, ruthless and without any mercy for the workforce. Really an absolute reaganist poster child with his union busting and absolute devotion to the all mighty dollar.

[@ellie8272]

Sadly, CEOs like that are to be expected under a system that fundamentally rewards their behavior The will of the worker is not represented in either corporations or government, therefore we have no way to defend ourselves. Things need to change, and I'm done asking

[@TheCaliforniaHP]

@@ellie8272 I'm still down for the revolution

[@cefb8923]

@@ellie8272 There needs to be a happy median, a culture change. The only people who complain about the system are people who are generally just trash to be honest. They think they deserve so much yet they only complain about the system and are too unmotivated and scared to not take use of it's obvious benefits. This is coming from someone who fixes your airplane for $35 an hour while people go to college get generic degrees (outside of STEM) and make six figures from home. Yes I have a bachelors and yes I'm switching careers.

[@fawfulfan]

The 70s was a rough time to be in business, especially in a business that needed lots of fuel as an energy crisis defined that whole era's economy. Those who survived had to be willing to take some of the pain themselves, not just put it all on their workers.

[@Dionaea_floridensis]

Lobotomized socialist spotted

[@RicoGalassi]

your episodes are good enough to be played on the history, discovery or science channels. too bad those channels are filled with reality tv...10/10 video

[@tehkill3r]

then you know what that means!, a reality show on disneyland employees.

[@amandalynnlucarini9517]

I echo Rico’s observation. Defunctland is presented at a level of both quality and creativity that far exceeds all other theme park KZbin channels. I especially love how you approach the main subject of each video from an unexpected starting point, and the diverse theming for each video’s intro credits and format. Keep up the excellence, good sir!

[@Spider_Mike023]

I remember watching something on discovery channel when I was like 11 all about the Disney cruises. It was real interesting and made me wanna go one even though I'm afraid of the ocean. But, they dont do these kinda videos there really anymore it seems. This channel really hits that early discovery channel feel, I love it!

[@mildredpierce4506]

RicoGalassi, I hate that all those once worth watching channels have gone the fake reality TV route. Kevin's videos are definitely TV quality.

[@Spider_Mike023]

@Thefirst Decade I like yesterworld content too. Covers theme park stuff also just as good. I alternate between these two.

[@morelihernandez7456]

I used to work for Westjet at the Orlando Airport and my favorite part was always announcing when the Disney Themed planes had landed and were approaching the gate. The guests, especially kids, would always get so excited and line up at the window to see it!

[@lakrids-pibe]

Walt Disney's relationship with unions is also worth looking into. Edit: And since I wrote that I've heard the episode "The Craziest Party Walt Disney Ever Threw"

[@giannaalbanese6180]

My grandfather used to work for Eastern and he still has fond memories of going to Disney all the time because of their relationship. It’s amazing to see what truly happened to this airline. Thank you Defunctland for bringing back the memories for my family

[@rootfish2671]

A powerful aeriel rat, named Charles Entertainment Cheese

[@Defunctland]

My legacy

[@hexyoutubeaccount]

This was an trip on it's own but then when you pulled up to the gate and said "Thank you for flying Defunct Air. Remember that worker's rights are always under attack in this country in an effort to create profit for few at the expense of the many." That was my favourite part. 5/5 stars, would fly again

[@mfitzburger5137]

The last sentence should be stamped on whenever an Amazon package is delivered.

[@RavenBethancourt]

This is your daily reminder that without workers unions we wouldnt have bathroom breaks, lunch breaks or any safety regulations

[@jackthorton10]

Sacrifices have to be made somehow

[@abraveastronaut]

Let's sacrifice CEOs' salaries then.

[@KaloTheGolem]

Nigel Cam how does that boot taste?

[@trainguy1792]

"That's one reason its so quiet" Have you heard a 727 taking off?

[@Dexter037S4]

Ottawa Lad, had Cargojet 727s flying over daily, every morning, waking me up at 6:50 on weekends. Can Confirm.

[@angrytigermpc]

A bit late, but also wanted to point out that the reasoning ("the sound's always behind you!') isn't how it works at all. Most of the noise from the engines experienced by passengers are the vibrations transmitted through the metal of the fuselage.

[@planescaped]

-have you heard a 727 taking off- *RRRRRRRRRRRHWWWWHWWRRRWHWH* What I can't hear you!?

[@ironwoodnf]

Have you seen where they put the Jets????? The pasangers sit AHEAD of the sound

[@Cyanidedan]

@@ironwoodnf "A bit late, but also wanted to point out that the reasoning ("the sound's always behind you!') isn't how it works at all. Most of the noise from the engines experienced by passengers are the vibrations transmitted through the metal of the fuselage." The comment's just one above you lol

[@ladyreverie7027]

"The Wings of Man" is a Don Draper worthy tagline. I love it.

[@Sasuhinagirl1]

Kind of reminds me of that Twilight zone episode with the book called "How to Serve Man"

[@generalzt2886]

Cant wait to fly to defunctland

[@stuartlee6622]

Demicratzland

[@EWOODJ]

Republicanzland

[@DangerDiego14]

How can a video about an airline be interesting, when I hate the whole notion of flying in crowded airplane, and just have 1/3 of the video dedicated to Disney's sponsorship? Only Defunctland can do that. They can make a video of the paint they use on the purple wall be amusing. Only nitpick is that I wanted to know more about the attraction "If you had wings"

[@yeemcgee8149]

Part two for “if you had wings”?

[@LUVBOTZ]

My family flew on Eastern to Disney World in 1985. The first ride we went on in the Magic Kingdom was If You Had Wings because it was the first ride we saw. The ride kept breaking down; at one point I got stuck in front of a film strip of a street vendor saying "Would you like to buy a hat?" over and over for about 10 minutes.

[@realuity3075]

well? did you buy one?

[@sml2k186]

@@realuity3075they had to

[@maymaymanufacturer1351]

Video title : downfall of Disney airlines Actual purpose of video : history of airplanes

[@haileymccurry3756]

dont forget the dangers of deregulation

[@ccubsfan94]

Sounds like a Wendover video

[@Writer10389]

I wonder how much money Lorenzo was making while he fought to bust all those unions 🤔 imagine hating your employees so much you'd destroy a company just to spite them specifically

[@Shrumt]

He’s the slimiest piece of shit to ever be in the airline sphere

[@stevenschnepp576]

Imagine watching your employees trying to collectively sink your company with insane demands.

[@fingerprince3737]

@@stevenschnepp576 🥾👅

[@stevenschnepp576]

@@fingerprince3737 You really ought to take a proper gander at the union in question, rather than just absorb uncritically what your teachers told you.

[@3000marco1]

@@stevenschnepp576the workers don’t want to destroy the company. They just better working conditions, job security, and better pay. I don’t know much about Eastern Airlines’ finances or bureaucracy at the time so I can only guess the workers demands were more easier said than done.

[@jacketry833]

Lorenzo: *snaps* 20% of airlines: I don’t feel so good

[@comettamer]

Pretty much?

[@madelinegarber7860]

Accurate.

[@Dilb3rtext]

Ol’ daddy Kevin dishing out the highlight of my day

[@alb5338]

Kevin, your documentary style is an inspiration to many including myself. Keep up the great work with all that you do and give yourself a pat on the back. You really deserve it.

[@delhaney11]

This was very wholesome (:

[@maxordman4100]

Wow truly a dramatic and dark but also quite fascinating story. The part about the dog who saved the people from the plane crash was my favorite part of the story. Salute to that dog and I hope he got plenty of bones, food and squeaky toys as a reward!

[@SaenWyrWulf]

7:31 The director said, "Have this kid eat an apple so he seems even more like a little know-it-all." *DING*

[@threehead99]

I see you subscribe to "KZbin Sins" lol

[@paraptorkeetcreations434]

You notice American CEOs never cut their own pay to keep a company afloat.

[@ForeverLaxx]

They often start increasing their pay instead and try to sell the problem to someone else once it's clear that it's going to fail.

[@isaacargesmith8217]

@@ForeverLaxx they basiclly go "well this dumpster fire's flaming out of control, better take as much water as I can instead of using the surplus I have to try and extinguish it"

[@mjbull5156]

"Never" is too absolute a word, but unless the CEO is a company founder, they can tend to be mercenary.

[@Pookie2112]

Because greed is crazy in america

Our Bankruptcy laws are very friendly to companies and the arbiters of them, but they destroy the labor force involved and the overall health of the company. This is what needs to switch where the people and larger company are protected but not the shareholders and CEOs who funnel cash into their pockets and evade pensions. We also need to restructure the corporate and investing process in this country that is the sole creator of inequity that creates less than 1% controlling all the wealth!

[@brendav8973]

What a good dog, 20/10

[@willhudson7141]

Agreed

[@lisachiappetti6092]

No. Are you crazy? He deserves at LEAST a million out of 10!

[@mfitzburger5137]

The finest of bois.

[@unknown-dq6df]

100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000/10 would pet again

[@jschoonj]

Awesome video. Loved how much you touched on labor relations and didn't shy away from the subject at all. Good stuff, Kevin!

[@jennifergriel861]

“If you had wings” sounds like the backing for a movie about a scientist turning person into birds.

[@Ara_Arasaka]

Rickenbacher is a hardass. Dude lived through so much pain and trauma. Including the First World War and even came out a career famous soldier? And so much more. I hope he’s resting easy. He deserves it. Legend.

[@azyrsharp8602]

I'm a pilot in training - very passionate about aircrafts - so this video really screamed for my attention. It's well read, well edited, and full of info that Im happy to now possess. Thanks, Kevin.

[@davidjames666]

Azyr Sharp i am an airline mechanic in training. I learn everything from youtube.

[@jackthorton10]

Good luck to you both in the sky’s and the ground... best wishes.. Thorton

[@uwu-if4jx]

Did ya managed to become a pilot :D?

[@azyrsharp8602]

@@uwu-if4jx still working on it! Covid cut into my flight hours that I need to be certified lol

[@uwu-if4jx]

@@azyrsharp8602 Oh not cool D: well good luck then :D

[@posthumorously]

Something I never wanted to hear: dislocated eye.

[@alexm566]

urethra paper cut

[@tyshco2969]

Anal injection.

[@nyotamwuaji6484]

I'd say you'd not want to see it either...

[@Joe_Potts]

"Downfall" is probably the most accurate word to describe the failure of an airline....

[@culturelove]

Another great episode. Rickenbacker's life story is a film in itself. It's an honour to see the quality of your work grow leaps and bounds over the last few years! Truly inspirational.

[@emilyshmelimy]

2:01 I thought I heard "toothless immigrants". That seemed like an odd detail to give so I rewatched it and heard "two Swiss immigrants". Moral of the story is maybe don't eat potato chips while watching videos.

[@SeanFlaharty]

Wow! I have to hand it to you. While I enjoy the vids that focus mainly on the amusement side of things, this video might be my favorite so far. Being born, raised and still live in Columbus, I am very familiar with the Rickenbacker name. I live about twenty minutes from the Rickenbacker Airport so Eddie's history is well known in these parts. To make this video even more personal, my first time flying was on Eastern (probably around '78) to Orlando for my very first visit to WDW. Due to my work schedule, I fly many times a year for work. There isn't a time on any of the number of flights I have taken over the years where I don't think about that first flight I took on Eastern when I was a kid. Thanks for the memories!

[@jackycook64]

Your comment got me remembering a flight when I was 7. It wasn't my first but it was my first traveling alone. There was a delay due to some maintenance so the captain, who had seen me looking into the cockpit when I boarded, found me and invited me to come see the cockpit. I was blown away by the sheer magnitude of gages, switchs, and buttons there were and that anyone could remember all of them. He pointed out several systems, naming them and explaining what they were for. He even let me sit in his seat with his hat and headset on my head. It was one of the most amazing experiences of my life. Then it got better. When we landed we were delayed again. The captain brought me back to the cockpit and said "let's see what kind of student you are". He pointed to different systems and I had to name each and explain the function. Happy to say I passed. Lol lol.... I earned 2 pairs of wings and high praise from the flight crew. Even today, 40 yrs later, whenever I board a plane I still look at the cockpit and remember that Captain.

[@SeanFlaharty]

@@jackycook64 Thank you for sharing your story. I can understand why that moment was one you haven't forgotten. Some of the most memorable moments in my life involve aviation in some way. It could be a long trip to Japan, or flying over incredible scenery, or even jumping out of planes for fun. Life would be a lot less interesting if it wasn't for the incredible pilots who get us to places quickly and are willing to go the extra mile to make people like yourself happy.

[@jackycook64]

@@SeanFlaharty That day gave me a ton of respect for the flight crew, both the pilots and cabin crew. Respect I still feel to this day. I have had so many memorable experiences during flights and also layovers. Those experiences definitely add an extra special quality to the trips my mom and I have taken.

[@jackycook64]

I made a slideshow for my mom of different pics taken from flights. I hadn't planned on sharing but decided to upload it to KZbin. Here is the link if you are interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2HVfqZrqN17h80 You are spot on about life being much less interesting without these types of experiences.

[@darklessian]

Griffin McElroy shouted you out on a recent episode of his podcast Wonderful! (Like one or two episodes ago?) I'm glad to know you have such a media luminary as an avid visitor to Defunctland!

[@swordswaltzing]

when i heard him mention defuntland i got so excited ! cause man i love Both of those things (griffin mcelroy and defunctland, that is)

[@wildboargaming1858]

both things (griffin and defunctland) are great but I just have to shout out the fact that griffin used to vore amiibos

[@1happypiranha]

You are the type of person who could talk about grass growing or paint drying and we would all be enthralled. 🙂 You’re videos are so good and the narration is A-MAZING! Good humour too! Thank you so much! Keep up the awesome work!

[@Anonarchist]

"we predicted what was going to happen with deregulation and we're living it now"

[@BlUsKrEEm]

I am always impressed with the quality of these documentaries. I really hope you make a living doing this. They are better than anything cable or Prime has to offer.

[@kylep007]

Defunctland should do an episode on the abandoned Six Flags in New Orleans.

[@suburbanlegend1997]

Six Flags New Orleans closed due to damages caused by Katrina, not business faliures, right?

[@kylep007]

@@suburbanlegend1997 That's true, but I'm sure there is a lot to why the company did not repair and reopen and they just leave it abandoned. I'm sure if a hurricane did a lot of damage to Disney World in Orlando the company would repair most of it pretty quickly. It must not have been a huge success then. It has also become a hot spot for urban exploration.

[@suburbanlegend1997]

@@kylep007 that's true! I didn't think of that, it'd be cool to see Kevin do a video looking further into the circumstances.

[@otaking3582]

Expedition Theme Park just did an episode on it. I suggest you check it out.

[@Mulerider4Life]

@@kylep007 the difference is Disney World is designed for high winds.

[@sunny-qv6mi]

I love these videos, production quality is through the roof my dude

[@DeathSithe92]

Grim Reaper: Alright Eddie time to g-...d-did you just spit in my eye?! Eddie throwing up fisty cuffs: Your gonna have to work for it old man!

[@jimlubinski4731]

One thing left out here is that American Airlines offered more to purchase Eastern than Frank Lorenzo, an offer that Borman refused because of his hatred of the unions. He sold us all out, whether we were unionized or not.

[@NathanGatten]

Lorenzo is a true Disney villain.

[@andyjay729]

So is Trump

[@bebecranney8740]

"planet captain"

[@sonicdudeatdawn2]

@@andyjay729 how? He bought planes and then put in his own company. Edit: oops that was dumb of me, i wasn't listening to the video as much as i thought

[@tankart150]

Yakupup You’re missing something...

[@jorge46404]

Yeah, both he and Trump used the “bankruptcy” tactics to evade taxes and firing labor force.

[@noahbundonis]

You’re content has always kept me engaged watching every second all the way through. Appreciate all the hard work and dedication that you, along with the assistance of Jake from Bright Sun Flims every now and then, put into these videos. Continue to keep up the great work Kevin! 😄👍🏻

[@Cosmicaura887]

I watch these videos every morning and it’s so interesting to learn about all this stuff! Keeps me more entertained than any history show!! Also production value is incredible! It’s clear you put a lot of hard work into your videos! Thanks for sharing this stuff with us!

[@jenniferh9612]

so crazy, i work at a retirement home and a resident told me they worked as a stewardess for eastern airlines. she said she loved it and that once a guy flashed her when she asked him to buckle up.

[@kyaban5192]

17:14 Yes, I KNEW IT! I heard the instrumental on my trip to Magical Kingdom last year! Blew my mind the moment I heard it!

[@ethanhatcher5533]

Rickenbacker is one of my personal heroes. A great pilot in the cockpit, a great man out of it, decorated veteran, savvy CEO, survivor, loving husband, man has it all And he’s from my city so, you know, bias

[@noncreativearts5360]

HOW DO YOU ONLY HAVE 461K SUBS!?!?!?!? YOU DESERVE sooooo MUCH MORE!!!!! Thanks for being the best channel on KZbin and adding something to the internet that has meaning and passion and not just a crap ton of stale memes. This channel gives me hope that the internet is more than just a place for scams and arguments. Thank you and I hope the best for you and your channel.

[@Hehawmon]

Please do a Defunctland episode on Club Penguin.

[@SEGASister]

He’d probably have to do a second spin-off series, like with DefunctTV. Hmm… Defunct.Com?

[@LeDoupFilms]

Defunct Web?

[@connerrobles-emery3672]

VMK would be fitting, too.

[@aslanfrench]

@@SEGASister Oh shit. Seriously a website defunctland style docu series would be so good.

[@md_vandenberg]

That's what the Internet Historian is for.

[@TheTygre]

Oh boy! I can’t wait to relax and escape from current events by watching some Defunctland and 17:38 ohhhhhh...

[@MC-nq8dg]

Alvin Feldman’s suicide was so tragic and heartbreaking to hear about.

[@lachenzz.3859]

completely forgot about eastern airlines... thanks for the video! talk about memory lane.

[@grenbaygrl1]

Wonderful video as always Kevin! Thanks for producing great content :D

[@CyberStockholmSyndrome]

As a major history nerd AND lover of all things Disney, this is truly my favorite channel. I’m so thankful for all the hard work you put in, what with all of the research and editing and writing. I know it’s not easy.

[@hannhenson9294]

Always impressed by your production skills, man. I'm not even that into disney park stuff before I started to watch your vids. Entertaining, informative, and well done.

[@spacedragon1453]

I like how they ran it to the ground. Just to avoid a pay raise.

[@Spiderific]

I remember going on Eastern Airlines out of Newark airport to go to Disney as a young kid. Those little toy packs they gave us got us so excited for the trip! I had totally forgotten this memory until seeing this video and seeing the Eastern Airlines logo. Thanks so much for this!

[@ImmaURq]

Your into edits are so extra and well done i love it

[@instinctivelychelsea2905]

Don't be afraid to slap a few more ads on your videos, the content is well worth it and I've seen people slap 10 ads in an 11 min video and people deal with it and watch it and it's not half as good as your content so don't under rate yourself. :)

[@allyward753]

Instinctively Chelsea agreed! i’d watch through every ad.

[@BuFFoTheArtClown]

You notice he didn't like your comment. Very telling of him. He wants to make money but is afraid to publicly say so. Which is a shame.

[@americanv8ss]

Fuck off Chelsea

[@SirBlackReeds]

He does have a Patreon though and a merch shop.

[@BuFFoTheArtClown]

@@chloephilgreen7443 unfortunately Kevin is anti-capitalist an anti Prophet because in many of his videos he places the blame squarely on business when the actual blame is squarely on government intervention. Such as this video. The Fall of the airline was 100% due to government intervention and meddling. But he Paints the unions as the good guys and the business as the bad guy. This is a conflict a lot of KZbinrs face eventually. They're taught a hatred for Success, business and personal development until they realize they need to pursue the same Avenue to grow as an adult and to be happy. So if he wishes to make more money, he needs to slap ads on this video and since his product is top-tier I guarantee you the majority of us, including me, we'll watch the ads to support him This was done through voice to text so I apologize for any grammatical errors etc etc

[@kata1261]

Not gonna lie, that 727 commercial already sounded like something out of Disney, especially the music cue at the end.

[@FabulousKilljoy917]

I love how Kevin & co. go back so far these videos it could be like “animal kingdom walking tour goes defunct; Defunctland be like ‘one million years ago the first human took its first steps on two legs’” 😂Love ya Kevin

[@WraptorRangler]

Now this is interesting. I could understand Disney Cruise and Disney Quest, but an airline?

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

Doesn't sound too far-fetched.

[@yeahim4110]

It's almost as crazy as building a European disneypark

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

@@yeahim4110 And yet, here we are!

[@yeahim4110]

@@ChristopherSobieniak at least there isn't one in hong kong right?

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

@@yeahim4110 www.hongkongdisneyland.com/

[@brandelynnefreleng7597]

Kevin your videos feed my soul

[@disneybrandisneyman2713]

Yeah, same lol.

[@aaronsarchive82]

I was surprised you did an episode on Club Disney as it's not very well known or talked about. I'm just as surprised you're doing one on Eastern, something that's familiar to older fans of WDW and If You Had Wings, but is foreign to your average guest or CM. Kevin, your whole team continues to impress me with what you come up with. Can't wait to see what you do with some of the Walt-era attractions!

[@Nick-rg2rb]

I think Lorenzo made the airline just worse.

[@SuperNuclearUnicorn]

That tends to happen when you're a piece of shit who hates their workers and sabotages their own product

[@gestaposantaclaus]

Watching as an aircraft technician for a major airline this episode surely hits close to home.

[@DeviDoesNothing]

I've barely started and I'm already being hit hard; my dad used to work for Eastern.

[@2kdegenerate708]

This was interesting, especially since im about to start pilot training in a couple of months. Also, i see you are at 460k subs, its cool because I was one of your first 2k subs. Cool to see the growth.

[@ccubsfan94]

Good luck on the flying endeavor. Currently building hours to get to regional airlines myself.

[@2kdegenerate708]

@@ccubsfan94 That's awesome! Thanks for the encouragement!

[@mfitzburger5137]

The fact that the higher ups even shafted the PILOTS mad me so mad... best wishes, hope you never have to deal with such bullshit.

[@2kdegenerate708]

@@mfitzburger5137 Thank you

[@happyhobbit1261]

The videos are continually better and better. Love this channel! Keep up the good work!

[@danielvandersall6756]

I actually remember flying to Disney World on Eastern Airlines, getting the special Eastern Pins, and riding the "If You Had Wings" ride.

[@1976P]

Best dark ride ever, with Mr. Toad a close second.

[@fizzys26]

The 727, quiet as a library...? That is most definitely not how I remember it, lol!