New Missiles Are Great But... - F-104J

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Plane that can support but kinda dies without support itself.
Cracked 10.3 though when down tiered.
0:00 - 10.7 5 kills
5:43 - 9.3 4 kills
9:23 - 10.7 4 kills
10:55 - 10.7 4 kills
12:11 - 10.7 4 kills
Fuel: 20/30 minutes
Ammo: Ground Targets
Load out: 4x AIM-9P Sidewinders
Convergence: 600 meters
Vertical Targeting: No
Crew: maxed (lvl 75) + expert
Outro: A.N.O. - Vanish
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[@OddBawZ]

Look at this mans. Best planes content on YT imo!

[@LilKingTigerstar]

True for my plane content I come here and for tanks I watch you. But anyone is better then Phly....

[@Grummpy_1]

He odd love the vids you and defyn are my favorite KZbinrs. You guys inspire me because I never play with ppl everyone hates but watching your guys vids are inspirational

[@somegui720]

you defyn and spitflyer are the great WT youtuber trio

[@m1a1abrams3]

cringedaily is better. he is the only one who says “firing two foxes”

[@tylnozcn27]

Love the vids man keep it up

[@threemountainsgaming7560]

Every time Rasor is in a defyn video: "So, Rasor right there is dogfighting an a6m5 ko in his B-17E/L and he just crit the zero"

[@aratay3117]

I could totally see him dogfighting while in the gunner position and still destroying zeros

[@argxz4200]

Needing an exit before you enter is probably the smartest thing I've never thought about

[@dsdy1205]

Can we get this higher; I don't know how many times I flew in with a well thought out plan of attack that ended with "and then I miss my shot and get clowned on by the enemy team whom I considerately placed on my tail"

[@kingghidorah8106]

Players against F104: Damn that thing's op it out runs my missiles and it's hard to aim at them! F104 players: Damn this thing can't turn, has no MER and can only run n gun, it's challenging!

[@dsdy1205]

In other words it's not really involved in the match lol

[@agravemisunderstanding9668]

@@dsdy1205 it provides a valuable role in the game It makes really cool noises

[@Edgazx]

It’s not challenging it’s a pain having no flares and shitty msls

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@Edgazx when it was 10.0 it was pain to fly but now that's 9.3 it is just too overpowered. I might get 2-3 kills per game in it because I don't want to bully subsonics. I remove the missile buses or other supersonic aircraft and then let them have a good dose of ol' MiG valley top tier experience

[@Edgazx]

@@kingghidorah8106 huh?? its 10.7 rn, you get bullied by phantom every match and you NEVER get a downtier. japan tier VI is dogshit, AND you dont even got flares until VII + F-5C, Su 25k, F-4S, a-10a( aim-9L without flares XD) spam

[@LeAoZiM024]

Do the Yak-38M, I wanna see your take on that diesel locomotive they call a plane

[@Liverpool2102MHB]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@smigoltime]

He won't like that one for sure xd

[@Asghaad]

@@smigoltime still better than its worse premium cousin, the 38M at least gets gunpods and bit better performance

[@smigoltime]

@@Asghaad premium also gets gunpods

[@jeek3452]

The flying cucumber

[@goldenx86]

The Eiko skin makes this plane turn 4 extra Gs.

[@stepmonkey3082]

The F-104's can be soooo damn annoying to fight against, like before you can read the name of the plane it's already sent 2 missiles against you and flew 7 km away.

[@Sandycheeks6699]

Those are the smart pilots, then you've got the pilots who are too busy trying to dogfight a draken or mirage

[@matheusdelimarodrigues4410]

0:25 Wtf it has MEC???

[@mp7_acog]

"it's kinda funny" my experience with my f104g agrees xD

[@wiredjarl1556]

Yes German F104G is a joke compared to, say, a su7 (9.3 and 9.7 compared to F104G’s 10.0)

[@CommentDweller]

your content is timeless

[@yuvimoi3065]

I was about to comment on the f104A last vid ...defyn be reading minds

[@Doomspain]

That reverse man... I rely too much on missiles to kill I wish I was better with guns, feels nice xD

[@autumnrah]

My method if you want to be better with guns is to remove the missles or play a jet that only has guns.

[@brannonmeador1792]

Or just play props, unless you paid your way to it you should have a lot of experience with guns

[@italo195]

@@brannonmeador1792 Welp, maybe I'm the only idiot who thinks this but, aiming and firing guns in top tier feels different (not a looooot ) from doing it in props or early jets

[@_GODSFIGHTER]

Good gameplay 😊 flying like an arrow lol. It doesn't sound too interesting but I'll do it anyways cause the f104 looks sick

[@Xeemix]

Hmm, in the F-104G(China) I've been chased by over four phantoms out of a furball, and dodged over 8 missiles with simple zigzagging before a bis came out from my flank while I was occupied with the phantoms, as long as you maintain energy and speed you can easy boom and zoom any aircraft and repeatedly force headons when you get a 3 mile lead on phantoms and bis's, you can dodge missiles by doing simple 2-3g zigzags you may have more difficulty with radar missiles, this is much easier in the S, i've had a couple of matches where I was the last aircraft left vs 2 or 3 enemy planes and could clean up nicely though again this is referring to the F-104G/S models.

[@sird4vy501]

Damn, KZbin notifications working?

[@spencer6331]

Yea fr. I didn’t get anything on his uploads lmao.

[@doublenikesocks]

Love that this thing is 10.3 while the identical Chinese F104G is 10.7

[@sathyarajesh7787]

i've had alot of fun ion the f104s for some reason, dodging missles is the best feeling ever

[@user-hl7bc4zy9k]

beautiful, pls write some advice for me to ganjin, when we can have f14 or better. thank you

[@MrPanggs]

Can you make another video on the F5 Tiger? I'm unlocking it shortly

[@french_co]

I hope Italian tech tree will get f104 Asa and av8b

[@whiskersthecatboi]

The future is now old man

[@dezurniblejac3863]

good video !

[@nuka.]

MEC for 104J?

[@Johanz1998]

Hoi defyn, could you fly out the Sea Fury at some point? I love the plane but it is difficult to adapt to sometimes

[@_GODSFIGHTER]

Nice color on that f104

[@SwissCowboy87]

at least one match stock would be interesting :)

[@timothylu1349]

TWO videis in one day???? Jengar is the best

[@lukefrombk]

Defyn can you please do a video on the Yak9M or Yak1B they're very similar and both such sweet planes. Or on the P51D10 that beauty is 4.3 now! I'm loving it : )

[@DEFYN]

Yak9m and p-51d10 are already in the making Give me some time though :b

[@lukefrombk]

@@DEFYN Thank you! : )

[@NookyAvenger]

Just free Aced my chinese F104G, I love that plane.

[@jovanni_orb5116]

I am very close to unlocking my first jet in US tree. Which jet should I get first? Or which jet is best to use in the US tree?

[@lukefrombk]

In my opinion you should get the F80 or P80 it's name was changed a little while ago but you'll find it in the US tech tree at 7.0. It decently fast has decent climb, great at defensive flying if you can get a 262 to commit to a turn fight with while he's on your 6 you can easily reverse them and at 7.0 there'll be many 262s. Also Defyn has a very recent from a couple days ago excellent guide for it that you can watch to learn how to be good in it!

[@lukefrombk]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYiuZn-sfMqcfaM Defyns Guide for the 7.0 P80

[@jovanni_orb5116]

@@lukefrombk thank you for the help.

[@jovanni_orb5116]

@@lukefrombk thank you

[@thomasvertommen9526]

This thing has seriously suffered. it's at 10.7 now with no countermeasures and gets eaten by about every missiles in game...

[@Edgazx]

True

[@agustinyavar525]

Wait they nerfed the baloon flaps? I loved wining dogfights in the F104 just cause no one expected it to randomly turn well lol

[@rsummers319]

its also to bad they wouldnt add the f104 g or s for the americans when they purchased 300 new s variants in 65

[@michaeltrujillo4457]

Could you imagine an F-104 with SRAAMs

[@calebcantrell9115]

Could you do a video on the MiG-21bis?

[@sohaibattalla7174]

pls play the re 2005 SL-bankruptcy machine

[@Mannen2000]

@Master boy1205 Re. 2005 has high repcost, and in the hands of inexperienced pilot, this aircraft will be the cause of their SL demise

[@lukefrombk]

@Master boy1205 same I'd like to see that as well, such a sweet sweet plane amazing performance. Only thing I wish was different was that It has one 20 and one Berezin instead of 2 20s then it would perfect.

[@dsdy1205]

12:11 The rare reverse DEFYN cut

[@josephdeans7298]

Could you do an Phantom FGR.2/FG.1, if you get a chance

[@tunaconsuma]

@Ryan S. Salvatore, Esq not at all lol just stay low stay fast. Nothin catching yoy

[@alexmj1401]

Love how those aims never lose track but an R-60 couldn't hold tracking on the sun RN

[@Jacob-vg2hh]

alternative title: Dart with turny missiles and brrt

[@adityabora9131]

Do a guide on how to win when half your team is F4Fs ))

[@UrMumSaysHiWT]

1: check what teammates are flying. 2: If half the team is F4Fs go to point 3. 3: Return to hangar

[@brt94]

defyn is spoiling us

[@EL4Mdesu]

I just researched this plane yesterday. Played 3 games while stock. 0 kills and 0 wins, and then I got bored and played my early jets. Any tips on grinding this plane stock?

[@LeAoZiM024]

Go kill light pillboxes or medium tanks, the stock gun belt can kill them and they give you a good amount of RP. And rush the Aim-9P, the rest will come easily when you have them.

[@EL4Mdesu]

@@LeAoZiM024 Ah thanks man. 6 Pillboxes, 2000 score, and then I ran out of fuel because I only brought 20 min. but 6k rp.

[@LeAoZiM024]

@@EL4Mdesuforgot to mention, after you get a good score killing ground targets, go land, when you land you receive a boost in your RP earnings, I don't remember the exact amount but it helps.

[@chagandomrodnoi]

Было бы интересно посмотреть нарезку игры в смешанных боях, в танковых реалистичных. Всё таки там совсем другая специфика.

[@tomppeli.]

What about the German top tiers? (Namely the F-104G) Are they competetive at all?

[@Wienerslinky]

only competative ones imo are the mig21mf and new phantom... the 104g sucks, aim9b missiles dont really help at top tier

[@mp7_acog]

i have 104g and mig 21 mf, it's basically a choice between countermeasures and speed vs usable missiles and ability to turn. i prefer the 104g these days because i tend to go fast and take a few pot shots then leave, so the vulcan is nice for that and the countermeasures means you can survive for a very long time if you play smart. i have about 600 games in my 21 and 300 in my 104g.

[@tomppeli.]

@@mp7_acog, I must say that I agree with your analysis between the two aircraft and it sounds accurate. All that and the fact that the 104 is 10.0 compared to the MF being 10.7, so seeing those downtier games is more frequent

[@drivinmiatas5068]

i’m rlly close to getting it

[@Mini1124]

German F-104 buff when :( the flares and RWR are nice but almost never work

[@ddmmouton855]

What american plans are good because i am new to the game so if you can tell me that whoud help me alot

[@flavortown3781]

Don't start with america, it's hard to play literally none of the planes are bad however, learning curve is steep. I recommend britian, the typhoon line will likely teach you to play most american planes in a way that is a bit more forgiving, they can sort of turn, they have good retention. Otherwise once you are playing america it's all about boom and zoom, dive from 400-600meters above someone take it up in a slight climb and run out throw them into a chicane

[@ddmmouton855]

@@flavortown3781 thanks

[@ddmmouton855]

@@flavortown3781 somting eles i shoud now about the american plans

[@reeeanonymous8399]

Japan is a good starting nation as well better than britain in my opinion

[@ddmmouton855]

@@reeeanonymous8399 what plan is good in japan

[@sampanyofella5832]

Yeah the gameplay is epic and all, but daaamn that skin is beautiful.

[@feraltrafficcone4483]

Man, I wanna play 9.0 now, but American teams have been made of AV-8’s and A-4E’s, so they’re very usually super useless and die very quickly

[@thetaxikab604]

What happened to this things flaps? I still find them very effective

[@DEFYN]

They produce about half the lift they used to

[@Turkishgamer-zm5cm]

What country is the best for new players ?

[@yakovendelman7659]

Murica

[@nolanarcher9996]

German F-104 G makes me want to cry

[@Ham_CheeseSandwich]

Why?

[@drae2173]

I thought that thing is the missile, hmm

[@mjjisbest3449]

This is best rocket in war thunder

[@rsummers319]

i love how they add su 17 for top teir but wouldnt add the f14

[@ares7522]

🤦🏻

[@M65V19]

Arcade air RB in nutshell

[@davidryanlawrencd]

La-200?

[@ibanana1871]

❤

[@moxie_ST]

How to find a team Like that ? I have a oprostite situation , by the time I position my self for pass my Moronica team is mostly on a whey to hangar and all I can do is play Dodge the misle (until it hit me) becuse 2/3 of enemy team is on my asss , not to mention that I em not spaded becuse games last for 5-10 min and you get a peace of šhit RP for that game time in a win game not to mention zero if you lose.

[@6old_YT]

Hey DEFYN can you please play the Yak-9UT because no one does. Day 6

[@samyt681]

Don't increase the repair cost lmao ))))

[@liquidcatt]

Whats the best way to grind rp far Japanese

[@ChildrenoftheDamned6]

a6m5 ko

[@lukefrombk]

I can't speak from knowledge of rp modifiers but I can for fun factor. If you have good aim the Ki84 ko is really fun at 5.3, considering the highest you'd face is 6.3 and sometimes you'll be in 4.3 and 5.3 matches. Same thing for J2M2/M3 they're very competitive at their brs and in a full uptier.

[@ChildrenoftheDamned6]

@@lukefrombk i wish the 5.3 ki-84 had navy guns over the army ones.

[@lukefrombk]

@@ChildrenoftheDamned6 same it would be awesome if it had 2 Type 99 mod 2 cannons

[@lukefrombk]

@@ChildrenoftheDamned6 With good positioning and shooting as if It was a Soviet plane with very low ammo I've gotten aces in the Ki84 ko before. If you don't have good results with the armament I'd suggest uni for the 20s, steath on the 12.7s and a 400m convergence. The Ho5s are best at closer ranges anyway. From my experience with this setup short bursts up to 700m destroy planes surprisingly fast

[@wulfyweasel]

wasnt even cannon fodder for an ace smh ♥

[@TugengHan]

Me looking for guide because I got bullied in a stock plane... Guide: fully upgraded plane with 4 AIM 9P is good

[@VoTi12]

I can see on comments everyone likes jets but man I miss prop fights :(

[@DEFYN]

Props soon :)

[@bkp1988]

25’s!

[@TonnyH21]

Play F 104 A i'm grinding it rn i want some tips

[@nero9974]

american f104 sucks

[@Serkay64]

I prefer using my german F104G as a Gunfighter

[@benjaminwandl5877]

All i Wanna say is hi

[@ravengar9504]

míssil thunder

[@jacklennox2358]

I wanted to get the P’s on this thing but it’s so fucking bad, I feel like everything catches me

[@thebirbestbirb]

it doesn't matter on the american star fighter the same country that created it and the sparrow missiles we only get fucking 2 AIM-9B'S!!!! what the fuck gaijin seriously America suffers

[@rasmusuhrskov2795]

4:04 Look at chat

[@jovanni_orb5116]

Hi

[@Generic_Name_1-1]

Play the F104C ;)

[@bubblesofthecoast6393]

Naw try the German F-104G; least the C can fly with the Americans

[@andre232323]

I would rather play pacman or tetris than late jets.

[@mrcllean8239]

Great vid but man it is dated FAST

[@wiredjarl1556]

German F104G...The worst of the bunch

[@boguskowalik7528]

No flares at 10.7 … neither the chinese one has it at 10.7. It has nice missiles but with current matches with mirage 2000 and f14 your gonna be killing bots and dying

[@sealclub13a79]

Pencil content

[@alexey_burkov]

I just tried this plane... And what a shit is it? Im not trying to say that i am good, but damn, this thing can nothing. Especially in stock. Absolutely nothing. I have to side climb or i die. I have to stick to my team, or i die. Every single try to do something lead to die....

[@yakovendelman7659]

I saw a video on KZbin called "How To Quit That Lisp" might want to have a look, maybe more people would be able to endure your content. When I was still lisping I noticed people didn't enjoy listening to me speak.

[@DEFYN]

Dick of the year award for my channel, congratulations you earned it.

[@bizabaja2]

Lisp? Bro what, where lmao Also yeah, you kinda are being an ass. Same reason people didn't enjoy listening to you speak. But you could always keep believing it was because of the way you sounded and not what you said to them 😂

[@yakovendelman7659]

@@DEFYN I mean lisping is not something physical (unless you have a harelip) that can't be overcome. I used to lisp really bad and now it just annoys me when I hear someone do it, since it's actually really easy to not do at all! Just constructive criticism bro give the vid a watch and you'll see. I bet a lot of people get annoyed by it too and only watch your vids because its great content.

[@yakovendelman7659]

@@bizabaja2 Honestly I totally get why they were so annoyed now, I have just as bad of an accent or dialect like Defyn here plus the lisp it's just not that pleasant to listen to.

[@DEFYN]

I had a bad lisp too and got actual therapy for it I am quite officially declared lisp free, idk what you're hearing but it ain't a lisp I've never heard anyone say i had it since then and I asked quite frequently since I hate it too

[@looke3392]

Religiously rewatching this video over and over trying to learn how to use this stupid aircraft because the grind is butchering me

[@DEFYN]

Man, i can give this thing to the best player in the game today and hes gonna suck with it Japanese tier 6 grind is some of the worst

[@looke3392]

@@DEFYN Oh god what have I gotten myself into lmao, I take it you won't ever do another vid on it?

[@DEFYN]

if i would make a video it would be me covering the games where I dont get missiled from 5km away. Theres not much you can do in this

[@looke3392]

@@DEFYN ahh shit, I understand, at least I have an excuse to suck at it, lmao. Take care dude

[@jtoddjb]

I hate these short ass games

[@josippetkovic389]

First?

[@joeboe1194]

Why play this when u can play f104a, aim9b is miles better than this crap

[@finn_mcmissile]

Nice bait