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@djcam7187 ай бұрын
You can see and hear the sincerity in his eyes and voice, definitely reminds me of myself in past situations where I looked out for certain people and they was good only because of me and me putting my life on the line but God don’t make no mistakes. God allowed those same people to expose themselves in their own dishonor. I forgive but don’t forget 🫡💯💯💯 #Brooklyn #Harlem
@scottgreenII-xn9dh9 ай бұрын
these guys gotta heal, deal and move on. Conversations cant continue to be about Jay and what did or didnt happen. Jay isnt talking about this stuff. Lets have conversations without addressing whats been mentioned in EVERY INTERVIEW. Whats new?
@TimHarris-jl8oy7 ай бұрын
I understand why Dehaven do it, bc its his story & its making him money. What I don't understand is why these interviewers never man enough to be like, bruh, "Tupac declared WAR on Biggie & Puffy over not warning him on the QUAD STUDIOS shooting, when he had no proof but felt betrayed. Nobody said PAC was a sucka for that, when it was technically Jimmy Henchman ppls. They respected his gangsta. Now HOV just cut ties from dude, ain't even pressed him--and its a sucka move all of a sudden." These dudes goofy
@BornJustAllah9 ай бұрын
How you miss Queensbridge as the most famous projects
@uwenzenjenkins56019 ай бұрын
Exactly! Queensbridge is the most famous and biggest in America, duh!
@Thebeat1399 ай бұрын
You right it’s well known
@Thebeat1399 ай бұрын
Only them 4 known worldwide
@QB-ul5lq9 ай бұрын
Facts
@lembk9 ай бұрын
Was thinking the same
@lembk9 ай бұрын
Marcy standup for the Big homie Gil aka headache aka Dehaven. Salute bro peace 139
@brickflipper52739 ай бұрын
Marcy stand-up for Jigga, bleek, TyTy, Sauce Money 💯
@abzda17009 ай бұрын
He’s making hall Marcy niggas look bad
@lembk8 ай бұрын
@@abzda1700you sound crazy. People who know know he is super official
@week-endclassbfbm96003 ай бұрын
@@lembkthank u. Jigga sold us out years n years ago
@tiwanatkinson60668 ай бұрын
lT'S GREAT TO SEE BLACK MEN SUPPORTERS.......💪
@davidcoombs92829 ай бұрын
Met the brother in Brownsville not too long ago. The hood showed him love
@dwightjames48748 ай бұрын
New York all day Richmond Virginia love that energy
@socialpublisher1238 ай бұрын
Excellent content 👍👏! You brothers keep up the good work 👍💪!
@Dalis8567 ай бұрын
Frfr
@powerovergrimyenergy9 ай бұрын
Dope interview 💪🏾✌🏾⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@m2nyce4u9 ай бұрын
BRUH GIVE THAT SHIT A REST 25 YEARS LATER SHIT HASNT CHANGE. Whats the end goal
@dwightjames48748 ай бұрын
Real is real keep it real to real gones wrong thank you for this one
@roddaniels34993 ай бұрын
Some time in life we feel close to somebody like family but they don’t feel the same way about you
@rashodlewis29189 ай бұрын
Dope interview! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@EffDinero89 ай бұрын
Dame speaks about how DeHaven helped out in the beginning...
@abzda17009 ай бұрын
Dame ain’t ever mentioned this clown
@derricksmalls22933 ай бұрын
Which interview? Thanks in advance.
@hviii74529 ай бұрын
Salute…
@chefclt7049 ай бұрын
I like the improvements to the channel fellas👏🏾
@lavanwoodson47849 ай бұрын
This was a great interview
@robsauls53028 ай бұрын
Jay cant respond to alot of the stories..because he cant confirm the stories involving drug dealings...even tho he referenced alot in his music but he cant actually confirm the timelines...he dont wonna know Rico.....lol
@vim.kingmansa68592 ай бұрын
7 years statue of limitations…he can speak on it
@cee58988 ай бұрын
🔥🔥
@YoursTrulyJGraham7 ай бұрын
I like how my man started the show by saying they neutral or whatever but as time goes on he starts taken DeHavens side. Callen Jay jealous and so on… Is you neutral or nah?!?? DeHaven I hope you and Jay can have a conversation one day!
@esseen1008 ай бұрын
Hmmm... Dehaven says Jaz-O wasn't around in 88-89, but Jaz clearly was around Jay and 85-86 when they made their first track together with "HP Gets Busy".. 🤔
@letsatsiraphoto98058 ай бұрын
Respect.
@geechiejoe50659 ай бұрын
QB in Queens and Jordan Downs (the projects where Cane lived at on Menace 2 Society, The Calliope in New Orleans and The magnolia in new orleans pretty famous too.
@Alkada379 ай бұрын
The Acorn project West Oakland CA
@rashodlewis29189 ай бұрын
Fight Village Apartments Rochester, NY
@geechiejoe50659 ай бұрын
@@Alkada37 that was in set it off?
@geechiejoe50659 ай бұрын
@@rashodlewis2918 what is that famous for? Not tryna be funny just put me up on game
@Alkada379 ай бұрын
@@geechiejoe5065 no that was a name that was maid up for the movie it’s real projects in west Oakland named Acorn projects
@polo_da_don71909 ай бұрын
Don’t forget Queens Bridge and Soundview Projects 💯
@Thebeat1399 ай бұрын
Yes to Queens Bridge. Not soundview. It’s not nowhere near big like others. I’m talking world wide
@StevenEskridge60039 ай бұрын
We respect violence anything else we playing 🎻 😂😂🤷🏾♂️hov, still got ta-ta, beehive, o.g. wuan, most of the day ones and he has been admitted to his fuck-ups all in the music so people love plie on the top dog..he did support at the library tho🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
@elahosun21019 ай бұрын
Run ya head into something solid og juan wife is a federal informant and if u cosign that u a sucka
@dwightjames48748 ай бұрын
Haven't tha shirt is I'll old school va Richmond
@BelovedBrotha8 ай бұрын
Yo I try to leave this street/entertainment shit alone. But this interview was golden 🫡
@rcvolts12838 ай бұрын
If Jay didn’t rise to monumental success and STILL climbing, Not one of y’all would be talking about him today. He would be just another dude from way back. 💯So who’s jealous and can’t grow up, can’t move forward, stuck in the past struggling to heal?
@tiwanatkinson60668 ай бұрын
🤣😂😅
@TimHarris-jl8oy7 ай бұрын
Exactly. Same dudes think 2PAC was gangsta for separating from BIG & PUFF after the QUAD Studios shooting, when he didn't even see who shot him, when it was Jimmy Henchman ppls. Yet, HOV wrong for not hanging wit a dude whose DeHavens man to this day, who he SAW shoot at him & try to kill him. These dudes goofy
@cholitobxny6 ай бұрын
Y'all don't get it
@serenabushrod94923 ай бұрын
It’s about principles. This speaks about J’s character.
@vim.kingmansa68592 ай бұрын
jay been talking about the same story to get the acclaim that he has today…let’s be real…called deaven a rat…now he’s jealous for telling his side of the story… y’all have never been through shit clearly
@williamgriffen10249 ай бұрын
When that Anthony Jones movie coming out! East-Baltimore Stand Up!!!
@doggman97959 ай бұрын
Oliver st i Herd of son when I was locked up in hickey 99-00
@bosscitytv8 ай бұрын
Great interview got mega respect for Dehaven solid dude Shawny d not so much
@TimHarris-jl8oy7 ай бұрын
You & these dudes have no backbone if you'd chill wit a dude who tried to kill you. If these dudes got a HOV interview, they'd be like, "Yo, that dude tried to kill you, son??? Oh word. He violated." Dudes always practice situational principles for CLOUT lol -- no real man hanging wit a dude like its cool that his right hand man tried to kill him and they stil bros.
@charlesjohnson5369 ай бұрын
'I CAME INTO DIS MOPHUCKA 100 GRAND STRONG .. NINE TO BE EXACT .. FROM GRINDIN G PACKS .. PUT DIS SHIIIT IN MOTION .. AIN'T NO REWINDIN ME BACK .. COULD MAKE FORTY OFF A BRICK .. BUT 1 RHYME COULD BEAT DAT' ..
@vonarnold36129 ай бұрын
Rel Mack from 142nd Lennox Ave definitely held Dame down in Harlem and Doc definitely kno that’s a Fact!!
@rcvolts12838 ай бұрын
…A old man when people ask you what you did with your life, you’ll say I hated Jay Z, and I carried a big knife. …Inspired by LL Cool J😮
@KNOWtheLEDGE79 ай бұрын
beat 139 thing taking this thing over
@WildBunchLiLD9 ай бұрын
Keep Doing Your Kings🎬🎥💪🏾🙏🏿
@mansamusa94659 ай бұрын
Dope interview
@user-dt4wz2fu5j6 ай бұрын
Peace ✌🏿 I think y’all need Black knowledge from Brooklyn Sumner pj on your show
@yungearl50419 ай бұрын
Shouts out to Brooklyn ,but the show was mad unorganized !
@Chris-ki4pp9 ай бұрын
Magnolia projects, Calliope Projects, The jungle projects
@TimHarris-jl8oy7 ай бұрын
I always watch DeHaven content. The only dude who kept it real with him was CHOKE when he broke down why HOV don't rock wit him bc he still standing next to the dude who tried to murder him. This isn't complicated. These dudes d ridin' to act like this. No man would do that. Dehaven woulda done the same thing to Jay if that happened to him. Just look what he did when he had to ride out with a public defender lmao he HOV would be gone if the roles were reversed. Cut it out. 😂
@Darealny6 ай бұрын
BINGO
@Darealny6 ай бұрын
He try to act like he don't know.
@vim.kingmansa68592 ай бұрын
nahhh jay got caught with his hands in deheavens cookie jar…jay was too jealous to stick to the rules & too soft to let the situation go even tho he was wrong.
@greglouch8 ай бұрын
I seen a Klein interview and he said when he came home Jay got intouch wit em and offered him opportunities, but Klien declined it because he wanted to get it out the mud on his own. But that was at that time...
@MrTruefacts1016 ай бұрын
Naw Klein was ego trippen and he regrets it dearly
@greglouch3 ай бұрын
@@MrTruefacts101you could be right. No telling what's really going on behind the scenes.
@StreetTalkTV99 ай бұрын
Dehaven is not being totally honest about the shooting situation and he was not the one who squashed that beef. "You are still friends with the guy who tried to kill me".
@MrTruefacts1016 ай бұрын
That could be true
@Laylow_1839 ай бұрын
U guys pic n choose like every platform those
@gerwonnedavis32279 ай бұрын
They need to space that out a lil bit. Ijs
@nasirjones-bey65658 ай бұрын
6ft apart covid??
@tiwanatkinson60668 ай бұрын
HEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO.... I CAN'T 👂👂👂👂👂👂👂👂YOUUUUU!..JAY Z, DAME DASH, TY TY, CALVIN KLEIN BACOTE ,EMORY JONES , JAZ-O, SAUCE MONEY
@undercovernewsnetwork8 ай бұрын
Dehaven is humble and real with his delivery. Jay z banned you D because your NOT with that snitch stuff. Perez + Wire + Cartel + Snitch Jay must have been shook over the other dude and couldn't get over it 😅 that's not G
@gar7839 ай бұрын
For the brother with the blue hat I would love to listen to this interview but it's hard to listen to a grown man that sound like he's talkin with marbles in his mouth and the vernacular of a teenager
@danzinithadon16869 ай бұрын
Definitly gotta mention Queens Bridge
@counterpunch5598 ай бұрын
If Jay wasn't the person he become would he still be telling this damn story every year for the past 25 years
@perrygirl75528 ай бұрын
I was thinking that exact thing...probably NOT!
@counterpunch5598 ай бұрын
@@perrygirl7552 Dehaven and this story is pitiful, it's 25 yrs old yall are different people now
@DBOMJP838 ай бұрын
This a dumb ass comment when u out if in front of a sentence the answers are endless. We dealing with fact jay is who he is so dehaven is able to tell his story as much as he want
@brianlarkins42508 ай бұрын
So he can’t tell his story how dumb y’all niggas sound. He can’t talk about man he know and built but it’s cool for you to defend a nigga you don’t even know y’all niggas weird
@dawud_the_general7 ай бұрын
You gotta health headaches.......its okay...everybody had got played..I've got played...you gotta heal big bro
@roddaniels34993 ай бұрын
The answer is he wanted the top spot and he knew he couldn’t control defacement he would never be under Jayz plus tai tai n Emory said don’t he it even dame dash hostility.
@dwightjames48748 ай бұрын
I'm dealing with family so fuck shit real is real
@user-tp7xd6bw7y9 ай бұрын
De haven is the black version of Cuban link 😂. All they do is talk about fat joe and gay z get a life brother.
@onlythingigotforyouisadisl70709 ай бұрын
Bull with the green green hat stay on the porch rs
@amgwon28109 ай бұрын
Whether it's true or not, bla bla bla the fact that Dehaven keeps talking about other dudes is pathetic. Dude, let it go... just let it go. Move on with your life man.
@bbkingme88318 ай бұрын
I was feelin dehaven on marcy made until The end , last 2 minutes made me understand why jay z dont and shouldn't fuk wit him. He cool wit the guys who robbed jay . And the reason they robbed jay was because he said when he was locked down jay was sellin to his clientele. U got ya friend robbed. And they tried to shoot him. Worse. U still cool wit the guys and admit it. Theres no way he should ever talk to u again and he should never help u in any way. How u dnt get that.
@tottTownbiz9 ай бұрын
Basically jayz wasn’t the I’m down for you right or wrong street type of dude
@williewebster45809 ай бұрын
Back in 1994 if you was getting it wasn’t driving no Lexus you’re going to drive doctors BMW with the phone inside I hate liars 😂😂
@johnkovich88747 ай бұрын
I forgot where, and it's been a while, but I did see proof that he was working with $200k or $400k in the late 80s or early 90s
@ky45169 ай бұрын
Queens bridge is more popular then Marcy projects!!!!!!
@jeffjones77989 ай бұрын
So what goofy 😂😂
@nasirjones-bey65658 ай бұрын
That's a fact!!!
@Bignay958 ай бұрын
The magnolia new Orleans is famous
@JigziPep9 ай бұрын
“The one that got away” story. Makes me say okay so make another Hov
@greglouch8 ай бұрын
DeHaven sound solid..all of Jay's friends was DeHavens friends..(TyTy, Emory, Bacote,etc..).but what exactly went wrong in the situation with them All not dealing with DeHaven?? Something ain't right about the situation. Dame spoke on DeHaven, and dealt with him..but what wtf went wrong lol that storyline ain't being told in whole.
@roddaniels34993 ай бұрын
Jay knew deafen wouldn’t submit to him.
@greglouch3 ай бұрын
@roddaniels3499, how is that when DeHaven is asking for a friendship?? Or asking what happened with their friendship..Like I said, the whole story can't be getting told. There is always 3 sides to every story.
@flipmoney821god69 ай бұрын
I fuck with his story 💯💪🏾
@terrenceperkins52829 ай бұрын
Get over it bro nicca get famous of they man name . A man not suppose talk bout another man for this long move on & grow . U can't no girl be ur girl or make some be your friend
@faceoff21848 ай бұрын
How you forget about queens bridge
@Mone_20868 ай бұрын
I WOULDN'T GIVE A FUCK IF YOU TOLD YOUR STORY FOR FIFTY YEARS LET IT BE KNOWN OG. REAL TALK 💯💯💯
@FinessedAnalyzer9 ай бұрын
47:32
@Abundance1729 ай бұрын
I believe dehaven but I’m wondering when did the shit happened Between the friend and jay because it seems like the story continues after that
@ephraimweekes69697 ай бұрын
DEHAVEN GOT LOCKED UP IN 1998 CALLED JAY WHEN JAY PULLED UP DEHAVEN SAID YO AM IN TROUBLE JAY SAID DONT WORRY I GOT YOU OK SOME PEOPLE CANT READ BETWEEN THE LINES HEY PUFFY YOU STILL SPYING HIDING FROM ME WELL AM RIGHT HERE IN THE BUSH FLATBUSH THAT IS THEN AGAIN I COULD BE IN THE STUY NO NO AM IN EAST NEW YORK CHILLING YOU STUPID IDIOT RIP BIGGIE SMALLS
@truzzulino9 ай бұрын
Jay has narcissistic personality disorder. He turned on dehaven because he got exposed for being slimy from the other dude. He was ashamed that dehaven could now really see him for who he really is so he had to turn on him and create the narrative of dehaven being the enemy. That’s what narcissists do. Also look at all the people he’s left in the past. All those people he exploited their loyalty to get what he needed from them and discarded them. He portrayed himself as their brother only to gain what he could from them and moved on. Even with Beyoncé, he groomed her from a teenager only to cheat on her to make her feel ordinary like a regular chick because she was too big of a star. He secretly envied her too. Jay is a real insecure person on the inside with no real identity. He uses other people’s identities as his own.
@jhonathanreed14659 ай бұрын
Is that why he’s trying to look like Jean-Michel Basquiat?
@franklynmcgradycalderon9779 ай бұрын
Look what he did to DMX, even Kanye says that Jay is “very selfish”
@abzda17009 ай бұрын
@@franklynmcgradycalderon977 wdym what he did to dmx ain’t no one fault expect dmx that he was a cracker
@abzda17009 ай бұрын
If you listen to dehaven talk you realise why jay don’t mess with him bro goes on the he was some sort of boss but didn’t even have lawyer money
@NatHenrickClarke9 ай бұрын
@@abzda1700he was out the game when he got knocked, y'all don't listen
@trubeleiverz47239 ай бұрын
him human ,just like the rest of us,build your own of course but him hurt
@james4898 ай бұрын
Dam. I seen an interview with Dehaven years ago. Dude still talking about Jay Z from 20 to 25 years ago. Dam
@roddaniels34993 ай бұрын
He miss his little brother
@elahosun21019 ай бұрын
1:50:20 translation if dehaven was in the room wit Jay dehaven will try to rip his head off wit his bare hands in so many words lol I don't think he want nothing from jay but to let out all his anger and frustration he once had
@abzda17009 ай бұрын
Bro ain’t ripping nothing he need to get his bum ass back on the construction site 🏗️ he be working on
@general5ive9509 ай бұрын
Sucka🤡🤡🤡🤡
@804bo79 ай бұрын
Man you just mad you missed the money train, I bet a million if jay z called bro p and said come on the team that man would stop all this marcy made stuff quick smh
@Nintendo999 ай бұрын
I would’ve asked puff for a job
@peoplehistoricallyovercomi13009 ай бұрын
So basically Jay-Z a buster ?
@niggaznowmy1239 ай бұрын
yes
@abzda17009 ай бұрын
According to real life busters this shit is funny
@tiwanatkinson60668 ай бұрын
PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERIOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDD....
@gramfishburnetv9 ай бұрын
Me and Jay traded a few words in passing,based on Jays energy,i can believe Dehaven's side of the story. We'll have to wait for Jay to give the Public his side,but Don't hold your Breath Waiting on that😂. What I do know is that many of the Top Celebrities Cut Off the people they no longer need or who Might expose their Secrets when they finally it! Most people who have no Rich & Famous Relatives or Friend's ,will never understand Dehaven's pain,because they Can't Relate. People should stop putting Rich Celebrities on a Pedestal, just because they have money or Fame. They Eat Sleep and Poop everyday just like you. They ain't GOD,give God the Praise Not these Celebrities.
@donking64279 ай бұрын
Right or wrong a man doesn't owe an explanation for something that long ago...I couldn't imagine a old friend of mines asking me for explanations...but see I'm not a billionaire.i feel like if Jay worked at McDonald's nobody would be asking for a explanation about anything...I don't worship any celebrity but I do try to put myself in other peoples shoes...I don't say oh he famous or rich...I be like what would I do....I'm not giving explanations unless u my child
@amgwon28109 ай бұрын
So you believe Dehaven without knowing the facts. Maybe he's right, or maybe Jay-z, Ty Ty, and whoever else know something we don't, who knows.
@Magneto41918 ай бұрын
At first jay z said dehaven snitched then the world found out it was a lie you can look the case up then he tried to say he tried to have him killed smh Jay a Fraud
@Thebeat1398 ай бұрын
True statement
@poohwecampbell77998 ай бұрын
Facts here don’t care he riding with Trump & the other party
@mybnetwork33469 ай бұрын
He can do a blood test with any relative it doesn’t have to be j
@user-kx5lp2ns8n8 ай бұрын
near 6:17 #1stAmendment... De, you're allowed to speak to your story, just like everyone else is! I'd never get the point of someone wanting you to be quiet, when no one is forced to listen to you if they don't want to.
@Dalis8567 ай бұрын
Nah, niggas really gotta stop playing and REALLY listen and analyze this interview. Much Gold in it. 💯
@factts_celebritylive9 ай бұрын
Salute The Beat 139..Jay using that situation for a excuse..the real reason is Jay wanted to be Dehaven so if he brings him around it makes Jay look soft to his industry Homies
@abzda17009 ай бұрын
No jay just don’t respect niggas who run they mouth on the internet that’s why you don’t see tyty or og Juan doing interviews. This the type of guy to sink the ship if he can’t be captain
@Thebeat1399 ай бұрын
@@abzda1700 He wasn’t on the internet he came out years later coming at Jay Z
@ybklyn879 ай бұрын
@@Thebeat139DEHAVEN HIT THE INTERNET AS SOON AS HE CAME HOME…HE STILL HAD THE CLEAR PLASTIC JAIL BAG IN HIS HAND…
@factts_celebritylive9 ай бұрын
@@abzda1700 I definitely can see that also👍
@Bignay958 ай бұрын
That's the dumbest ish because regardless of why they aren't talking dehaven isn't as big a Jay-Z in the rap game..
@staceywilliams1048 ай бұрын
Just came here to confirm Dehaven is still talking about Jay... 🤦🏾♂️
@ybklyn873 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@lll4442699 ай бұрын
These dudes goofy
@preppywilliams82129 ай бұрын
it have to be something more that because if jay cut dehavens off like that thats crazy side note bmore fucs with ny niggas but da jail was crazy back thn
@TheEnvironment-hd7kg8 ай бұрын
Jay not being in the trenches and knowing what a crack house smells like is the reason why he is where he is today. It's called being smart🙄
@funnymoneytv938 ай бұрын
30 years later, still talking bout Jay-Z smh
@sphinx41016 ай бұрын
bro no projects in the world are more famous then mines we got more rapers then then any body and we are the biggest in the US QUEENSBRIDGE
@counterpunch5598 ай бұрын
This is almost humiliation, it's certainly embarrassing, if yall haven't been speaking for over 25 years, you don't know this man anymore....25 years is a lifetime. Where's your story the 25 years after jay, speak on that
@TimHarris-jl8oy7 ай бұрын
Dehaven looking at these dudes like, he don't wanna be associated with them for real, especially when they started caping for the so called love child and baby mama. Dehaven a real hustler. He don't agree with none of that sht for real.
@lll4442699 ай бұрын
🤡🤡🤡 Time
@Seanljohnsonsr6098 ай бұрын
Drama
@jaybrown34158 ай бұрын
So reasonable doubt is about dehaven drug dealing career??
@cashcofreshco54088 ай бұрын
😂 exactly
@SHARPEYE19 ай бұрын
We gotta hear Jay side of the story
@roddaniels34993 ай бұрын
Jay getting ready to get karma
@BAWynn22019 ай бұрын
Young Dolph went to Coach Prime & his team donated at the HBCU & put Deion son in a music video
@AnthonyDRLopez8 ай бұрын
POWERFUL is GOD BODY. 7 is HEAVEN HARLEM aka MECCA 2122 7th
@truth678u8 ай бұрын
Dude in the Green hat is on Dehaven nuts Jesus Christ
@antronlynch67178 ай бұрын
You all need to realize that Jay is not the same person anymore he is the body but the soul is back seat. He is in there but for us that knows the truth it's not him.
@terrenceperkins52829 ай бұрын
Like Dehaven u expose jay but u to move on yea it some hurtful shit ur a billionaire . Jaz o Dame r really hurt by jay
@brianlarkins42508 ай бұрын
I wish someone ask Dehaven about Ether and that’s battle where he was and why it affected jay
@doggman97959 ай бұрын
JAYZ WAS SLEEPING WITH UNDERAGE WOMEN BEYONCÉ 11 YEARS YOUNGER THE HIM THEN TALKED TO HER ON THE PHONE FOR A YEAR THATS PREDATOR BEHAVIOR
@nasirjones-bey65658 ай бұрын
Facts 🎯
@roddaniels34993 ай бұрын
Dame is too hostile to work with but with decadent jay thinks in his mind he could never get decadent to sit underneath him and be submissive. But he could of helped him.