Delboy's Garage, Pennyville Farkles, Pt #2

Ignition Lock Relocation using Genuine British made Billet parts from ;- www.motone.co.uk/
Give 'em a look and see what they have for your bike.!

[@maffp]

Seriously man, your videos are by far the best... you make me go from not daring to touch a thing to feeling confident enough to take the Bonny to bits if I need to!

[@Moonfleet41]

+MJ P Cool! , that's great to hear mate... confidence comes from within you, all you need is a little inspiration, am glad we could help ! Take care, D&P!

[@TheSpencerBarnes]

This is SO true. I never really understood anything about how my bike worked, and last weekend I installed a tail tidy. Granted, it was a simple process, but it was my first time and I get such a huge sense of pride every time I see my bike. I'm hooked and can't wait to keep working on my beloved Bonnie!

[@classiccycleconnection9334]

FYI, long term the ignition switch in that position catches water . Either thrown up by the tire or sitting on the sidestand in the rain . Had the owners bike of the shop i worked in, a Thruxton with this kit and in time the bike would die going down the road , not start after being parked , yes , replaced the Hall sensor ended up taking the back off the ign switch it was as green as grass with corrosion . This was a California bike, not too much rain. Replaced switch but applied silicon sealer to black cover sealed up and a wipe of silicon to the seam as well .

[@Moonfleet41]

Silicone also around the point the wiring goes in to the switch block.

[@jamesapedaile6543]

Thank you very much for your very interesting and informative videos, watching them gives me absolute confidence to carry out some of the modifications on my Bonny that you advocate. Thanks again.

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi James, glad you like the videos and its good that they can help you... thanks for your kind support, take care and keep safe.. Del.

[@nickmason279]

You are costing me a fortune! I bought a T100 in October and have been steadily transforming it into the bike that I want. I started with some ideas and came to KZbin for tricks and tips for the various mods. Your videos are by far the best, keep up the great work. Ignition relocation bracket on order!

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Nick, thanks buddy, im glad the videos have been of help to you.. and yeah, they can get a bit addictive to modify aye... when ever you look online, there's always something else that would look great on your bike...lol Good luck with it buddy.. and thanks for watching.. Del.

[@PanozGTR95]

Such an unbelievably simple mod that makes a whole lot of difference. Having the ignition lock there looks far cooler and makes it a lot more user friendly. Nice one Delboy. Also lovely bike, Penny!

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Tobias, it's taken a little thought and a little work, which hasn't cost a lot, to turn it (I hope) from a 'grandad' looking bike to something a bit cooler and being right hand will make my life a little easier lol! Thanks for your kind comments, Pennyx

[@MrEdsster]

On another subject, thanks, as I was watching your video, I was pondering a problem I had with a bold that the head was too short to get a spammer on. I remembered a video you did and enlarger the flat sides by grinding them. I got my trusty dreamed out with a cutoff wheel and proceeded to cut the lip off to make the bolt a bit easier to grip.. It worked just like you showed us. I wouldn't have thought about that hadn't I been watching you on the KZbin. Thanks buddy, it worked great and saved me cash... Rsmf

[@Moonfleet41]

That's what we like to hear... saving money through the wonders of YT! Glad you got it sorted buddy, rsmf, Del

[@ianfranco7134]

Love your videos been learning a lot about maintenance for my Bonnie and also how to upgrade her when I can.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Ian, im glad the videos can help you out... good luck with your own projects buddy..

[@erikwood1305]

Just used your video to relocate ignition. So easy with the help of your great video!

[@Moonfleet41]

That's great to hear Erik, it makes a big change to the bike and is a lot easier to hold the choke on and balance the revs and not have to do all of it with your left hand lol ...

[@Butterfly07949]

Been thinking about this for my bike this morning funnily enough then this everything this video of yours popped up Delboy. Just received my top notch 60cm speedo yesterday which will eliminate the factory clocks and idiot lights. The relocation of the ignition switch will give it that nice clean look to my GS 500E scrambler 😀 Pity there isn't a purpose made bracket out there so will have to fashion something up, hopfuly it will look the biz. Great video Del x

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Marc, a chance to make a bracket? Perfect! Get your best fabrication skills on and have fun... all starts with cardboard and scissors as you know, and you'll end up with something bespoke, not just another catalogue part... have a great weekend Sir and god bless.

[@Butterfly07949]

@@Moonfleet41 yes great thanks for reminding Del so there's no mistakes. Ps I think it's such a great idea of Harley that one can use a padlock for the steering lock as to other brands of motorcycle.

[@martijnwho6476]

That looks fantastic, good job mr moonfleet!!

[@Moonfleet41]

Thank you kindly Sir!

[@northeee]

Very tidy and what a great simple mod that works !

[@dukedsinned5709]

Thanks for the "how to" for such a useful accessory.

[@pmayh3m]

@Delboy's Garage another great video. Thanks for all the info and walk us through. For anyone wanting to save a bit of $$$. A copy can be found on Ebay. Just do a search for: Triumph Ignition. The copy is near identical to the name brand, and as you may have guessed, about half the price. Be sure to message seller if you want a left or right bracket. I kept mine on the left. Also all the hardware is provided as well. No need to cut the bolts down for the back of the bracket. I was also able to find a LSL headlight bracket for under $60.

[@davidhodgson2832]

Yes I moved all the cables and the plug is hard against the headlight inside. I'm guessing the earlier bikes just had a shorter cable span here. I will look at rewinding the loom back and moving this plug and socket from inside the headlight to under the tank as someone mentioned earlier on here or I'll get a bracket to move it up 2 inches or so there's plenty of room above the current position. Anyway thanks for speedy reply!

[@Flashdan100]

I’ve just bought one of these and makes a world of difference, being predominantly right handed I dropped my keys several times trying to put them in the ignition ! Also rather than having an ugly grommet in the hole fit a waterproof 12v socket, you can then use it for accessories usb etc or it makes a handy battery trickle charger point.

[@GTsGarage]

Another excellent vid Sir.. ride safe.

[@Moonfleet41]

Cheers Grumps..always good to hear from you buddy...

[@gremmann]

Been watching your vids from time to time. I have an 08' America that I bought new, with now a tad over 50,000 miles on the clock. I have made some video of simple maintenance, such as replacing brake pads and such. I would love to post them to show people you don't have to be a rocket scientist to work on these bikes. You do a great job of editing, and that's where I have a problem. When I figure out how to edit, I'll post. You and Lunmad explain things very well, and I thank you. BTW, I'm in the states, and your quid, pounds, etc. with the exchange rate......I have to do math. :-) Thanks again, keep them coming.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks buddy, love the sound of the videos, as you can see there's a lot to it, and a video can be made or broken by the editing... so get stuck in mate... I only learned by experimenting! Just like riding mate, it's practice, practice, practice...!

[@SkeggyCruiser]

Nice little Farckle that buddy, I agree it does look like it's always been there, RSM8.

[@Moonfleet41]

Cheers Skeggs....good to hear form you buddy... and yeah, looks like it should have a Triumph stamp...(only its better quality lol)

[@deathanimate]

That only looks 10000% better. Very clean.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks buddy, nothing like a bit of billet in yer life eh?!

[@alcohol_soft_middle_aged]

You'll be glad to know that Squaredeals have included the 5M bolts now, so no shopping or messing around now

[@petergoddard1960]

Great mod and a lovely bit of kit too, well thought through as the wiring sits perfectly. Three keys on the Enfield. Ignition, steering lock and toolbox lock. So now if I want to get the bike out and access the toolbox I have a total of 8 locks to undo! Tool shopping is imminent, making lists and pricing up. Machine Mart ought to be rubbing their hands in anticipation. Any personal suggestions/recommendations for reliable 'house of sticks' tools would be gratefully received! All the best you two! :-)

[@souljacker4570]

im a professional motorcycle tech honestly sealey make great tools also check out halfords professional depending on your budget perhaps teng i use teng professionally and check out a company online called folkestone fixings i buy from them constantly there a great company and on some tools there unbeatable

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Peter, meant to chat with you at some point reference security after talking with a buddy of mine at work who has used a mini container as a shed... and disguised it with shiplap... but maybe we'll chat on the phone on that one??? Souljacker is right on tools, Halfords Professional are great and for the high use stuff that you reach for every day then the American equipment is brilliant, not Snap-On, but makes like BluePoint & ViceGrips, I've been beating on my BluePoint stuff for years and can't break them for trying... not only that, they cost half of Snap-On.... it's important cos things like 10mm open-enders invariably stretch wider with time and then you're rounding stuff off. Sealy as well are very good, but it's all about the budget my friend, better to have a cheap tool and improve it later, than not to have it at all.... so comprehensiveness rules! All the best, Del & Pennyx

[@arielgb5991]

I'm working my way through ALL your videos (ocd). It looks good, would like it tighter to the frame though (slightly shorter spacers?)

[@Moonfleet41]

+Ariel GB The back of the bracket is 3mm from the frame...

[@DeauvilleBob]

Very nice. Wish you could relocate the steering lock. I bent two keys manoeuvring with the tiddly key still in the lock before my lesson was learned!

[@Moonfleet41]

To be honest, Bob, that's one of the reasons I never use mine as we don't leave the bikes anywhere , but if we have to, a proper external lock, or chain, is best.... rsmf

[@99idm]

Del - did you decide to keep the bonnie then? I thought you were flogging it a while back...

[@kevinsnowshoedaddy6281]

This is a great video. Cannot wait to do this! Ever upgrade a factory headlight to a Jeep Wrangler LED 7" lamp before? May try to do this mod at the same time!

[@kevinsnowshoedaddy6281]

Update: Did the combo upgrade of 7" LED Jeep headlight upgrade with the Motone ignition relocation. Your video was SPOT ON! Only issue was with the factory wiring...IT WAS TOO SHORT TO REACH THE FRAME BOLT HOLES. Had to scrap the relocator and just did the headlight upgrade. Your video was a great tutorial! Thank you!

[@bluzbanjo]

I had the same issue. I disconnected the plug and pulled both sides out of the headlight and rerouted the plug under the rhs of the tank. I think it looks even better, as all the wires are concealed under the tank.

[@jhscloutier]

You are doing some great video, i've watch a lots of them! I'm pretty sure you mention in one of them that you have included a sheet with all of the torque setting but i can seem to fine it anywhere? Again great videos!!

[@Moonfleet41]

I haven't made any video covering torque settings, but that kind of thing is fully available openly on things like Triumph Rat Forum... or in your service manual specific to your bike !

[@Cueballproductions1149]

nice job del looks much better

[@GentlemanBikerVlog]

Muuuuuch better! Why didn't they incorporate the lock into the ignition? Even if they did want it in a daft place? I can't believe they thought it would be better to keep it like the old style rather than update that.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thats classic style bikes for you mate, they have to embrace a lot of the old charming style in order to attract the buyers who want to feel they are on a 40 year old bike......Enfields are even worse... but hey, thats what farkles are for aye..? lol

[@hdfatboy329]

Very nice mod brother. Looks good... Why they have 2 keys has always been a puzzle to me. Bike is looking good !!! Ride Safe...

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks buddy, I guess like Harleys they mount their frame lock directly in to the headstock, just a traditional way to go ...rsmf

[@sait33]

Thanks 👍❤️🙏

[@akasa231]

Thought of another subject while watching this (good fix by the way)...L.E.D, replacement bulbs! are they any good as a headlamp? or even legal? I have fitted a pair in the aux lights on the Harley, they only draw a few hundred mA's so no need for a relay but I have kept the Halogen headlamp for now until I know that the led's are o.k.

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi mate, an LED for your headlight is called a 'HID Kit'... they need no relays or extra wiring as they plug straight into your existing H4 plug... loads brighter and burn no more current.. !

[@WaveAction777]

I like this mod, its all about convenience to me. Now one doesn't have to reach and reposition the bars to start the bike. I don't think I've ever locked my steering come to think of it.

[@Moonfleet41]

You're right mate, not only is it the easiest way to batter the paint so having to carry two keys separately, but also it's quite a long reach forward... and if you've got zips on your jacket a small person like Penny, ends up almost laying on the tank to get to it! So it's win win all the way round!

[@bobtastik]

Thanks for the video !

[@panman7615]

Another cool mod :)

[@TheBazza2556]

just looks so much better and more practical, Triumph need to take note!!!

[@Moonfleet41]

Deaf Dumb and Blind mate, like all manufacturers.....unless they can market it as "Their Idea" like when Harley noticed that all their newbie sportser owners where dropping the bling and painting things black....and they suddenly "Invented" the new "Dark Side" bikes.. ha ha...blatant customer guidance and typical denial....

[@frankstormfield7646]

Just got home and i'm far too may pints in to make a sensible comment i'll be back tomorrow :P but i'll enjoy the vid right now!

[@GeneralLack]

Hello. Are these shocks hagon? can you please send me the model so i can order them from the internet? i have the same bike. Sorry for that but it is really hard to find any bike parts in Greece.

[@Moonfleet41]

Konstadinos Xenos HI mate, No, they are not Hagon, they are from TEC Bike Parts... link here.. www.tecbikeparts.com/ They are very good quality and a great price.. hope that helps.. Del.

[@pmayh3m]

@Delboy's Garage what would you do if the ignition wire is short or barely long enough?

[@Moonfleet41]

You do need to rearrange the wiring in the headlight dowl to pull out as much ignition harness as you can, and it reaches the new location, just. !

[@pmayh3m]

@@Moonfleet41 the wire slack is pushed out all the way to the back of the bucket where the connector wires are showing. It reaches but when I turn to the right the wire is taught.

[@jenny666barnish]

Farkles are brilliant such a better design x

[@Moonfleet41]

Sure thing Jen, it's less far for little arms to reach... bless X

[@dickdick999]

Erm I thought the Bonnie was going. did I miss something? Has Penny made a fortune and decided to keep it? Nice kit keep it up.

[@Moonfleet41]

NO, not made a fortune...but yes, decided to keep it as there are too many almost new bikes for sale in dealers and they can offer P/X and finance....not too many street buyers out there with 'year-old-bike' money to spend..!

[@andrewnash4394]

hi off topic a bit. the head light on pennies bon, do yon think it would look ok on a bandit. reson i ask someone fitted a cheap head light and i can see nothing at night and no one can see me.

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi buddy, it will certainy be a better light than you describe, and it's a regular style, side mounted, headlight - so it should do the job just as well as a Bandit single headlight... will run a full size halogen bulb too !

[@andrewnash4394]

+Moonfleet41 I'm worried about the HID lights. my nc31 keeps blowing regulator rectifier wired from solenoid as told. can you recommend a better light for the bandit.

[@Moonfleet41]

You don't need a HID light, just a regular halogen bulb in a standard headlight, like the Bonnie one you asked about... if you live in the pitch black countryside, and need more light, you are better off sticking a couple of cree lights low down on the front of the bike connected to the main beam feed for the country lanes...

[@andrewnash4394]

Thanks

[@johansharp2446]

cheers del, triumph designed by chindogu lol

[@PsychoticBovine]

I would assume that the procedure is the same for my 2013 Scrambler.

[@Moonfleet41]

Yep, exactly the same...

[@antikarlo1212]

I did also,its great, but now I cant instal crash bars :)

[@kdlofty]

"Comon sense solutions to stupid arsed designs" Love it lol.

[@oaklane42]

Doesn't work on a

[@Flashdan100]

Mine is a 2008 and the cable was just long enough, but I know the length of the cable can vary !

[@neilcole4844]

Why the hell cant triumph do that? Nice shirt too Dell lol!!

[@Moonfleet41]

Cheers mate.... everyone should have a Ben Sherman in their life...!

[@cowdudeable]

Del, I ask you this as I have come to have great respect for your opinion in these matters...I bought my 2006 Harley XL1200C Sportster 5 months ago when it had 1600 original miles. I am quite convinced that the woman who sold it to my was completely honest in dealing with me, she had done the 1000 mile service at the dealer and had the paperwork . Anyway after putting another 1600 miles on it, the clutch burned out. No kidding...3200 miles and the clutch crapped out. Turns out, after I towed it to the dealer, the clutch cable was way too tight. The dealer is putting in Screaming Eagle clutch which is supposedly slightly better and cheaper. Still the bill is over $800. Presumably, the clutch adjustment was correct at the 1000 mile service. Any idea how it could have come so far out of adjustment in 2200 miles? Would a too tight clutch cable burn out the clutch plates? By the way, I am a pretty darn conservative rider, if that matters. Any suggestions you make would be greatly appreciated. David Lehrer

[@Moonfleet41]

+David Lehrer Hi David, so sorry to hear that mate, what a ball ache... and what a horrible financial kick in the nuts too ! Sadly, I have to tell you that it is entirely possible to burn out a clutch pack if your cable is too tight... it goes a little like this: You have two things to adjust on a clutch... The free play in the clutch pack itself, set by the centre nut at each service and then the Cable that actuates it... And it's completely possible for the clutch pack to be perfectly well adjusted, but if the cable is pulling on it too tight, and you don't have that all important 3mm of free play in the lever, then it's like you are riding down the road with the lever pulled in slightly... This means the clutch plates are not fully pressed together and there's less friction to make them grip each other, and with the huge and legendary torque in a Harley motor, the clutch plates will slip over each other on extreme load.... you may not feel, or detect, this when riding, but it will be a constant slight slipp-age and then it's all downhill from there.... slipping plates then overheat, that causes them to buckle and then they are only touches at various points, not all over... those points become 'hot spots' and it gets even hotter, which will start to break lumps of the soft material .. those lumps become debris, that eventually grinds away between the plates and just destroys the lot...! What does surprise me is the bill - a set of plates, even some upgraded barnett plates, are only about £200 (UK) with a full gasket set, so those guys must have some serious labour charge...! Sorry this has happened for you my friend, all you can do is grit your teeth , get past it, and make sure you ALWAYS have freeplay in the lever... and don't beat yourself up either mate, as it's entirely possible that she could have ridden the clutch whilst using the bike and done ALL the damage before you got the bike... Little used bikes 'one lady owner' lol --- can be more trouble than a heavily used daily commuter sometimes... good luck with it buddy, let us know how you get on, all the best, Del

[@cowdudeable]

+Moonfleet41 Del, Thank you so much for your input. I just got the bike back from the dealer. The clutch is as smooth as silk. I am beginning to think that the clutch may have been slipping for some time. I believe that your explanation is spot on. Anyway, I am putting this whole thing behind me and moving on. My best to you and Penny. David Lehrer

[@EastLondonKiwi]

Nice mod Del... This bike is getting prettier with every change you make.

[@Moonfleet41]

Cheers mate, fun little mods and make all the difference...as long as they improve the practicality of the bike im fine...i don't like bling for bling's sake...pointless posing it shite...!

[@Vanrocco66]

Looking good!!! Each change has been a major improvement!! ... Check out the video I posted. I'm curious as to what your guess is!

[@Moonfleet41]

Cossack 650 with a box on the seat... and you're saving up for the sidecar...

[@Vanrocco66]

Holy SHIT!!! How in the world did you guess that?

[@davidhodgson2832]

This is great BUT I didn't have the same amount of slack on the ignition to headlight on my 03 Bonneville so I could only fit using only one bolt (see i.imgur.com/ZlIqj5H.jpg) I've contacted Motone to see if they have any suggestion but if you have an early Bonneville maybe think carefully (or at least check how much cable you have available)

[@Moonfleet41]

***** Thats odd...i cant see why they would have had less harness in 2003....i guess you've reroutes the plug socket in the light to get all the slack.?

[@JohnBorgen]

Motone...no Suzuki love?

[@Moonfleet41]

Aye..?

[@JohnBorgen]

It's all good! After watching your vid's on the Bonnie I've started to look for them around town. They're crazy customization and look like a really solid ride...may be just what my wife settles on. Plus, with you and Penny on them and all the video's you do, I like the idea of owning a Bonnie and a Bandit...you're channel's got me completely covered in maintenance video's and cool ideas!

[@Moonfleet41]

John Borgen Thanks John.. glad the videos can help you mate... irs a fun hobbym and a bonus that it can heklp a few people too.... take care mate.. all the best.. Del.

[@baccas66]

And people wonder why so many bikers buy Japanese. Each to their own, but Jeez; why do Triumph have to take the difficult route? Have they not learnt the lessons from the past that caused their previous carnation Triumph Engineering to go bankrupt?

[@Moonfleet41]

Its was militant unions, disloyal and unpatriotic buyers, greedy dealers and dissentful journalists that lead to their downfall....not a few old fashioned designs...

[@slipryeel]

Good stuff brother my triumph thruxton great bike, but over priced cheap crappy factory head light which melted around the back of bulb, and when washing her the glass shattered so down to auto parts store and got a 15 dollar car head light fits like a dream and well made a lot of the triumph electrics are cheap over priced and rubbish thats my rave seeya.

[@Moonfleet41]

Good and wise words.. its a shame they fall down on such a small issue aye... you'd think with what they charge for them, they could source their ancillaries from a better supplier than Fisher Price aye..!