Dell OptiPlex Cheap Gaming PC Buyers Guide

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@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
Using one of these older Dell's to build a gaming PC might surprise you. You can check out the entire build process where I turn one of this into a gaming PC that beats out a console for the same money. Also, I've made an updated video talking about the current prices. Check it out for some alternatives to an xx20 with an i5, since they're selling for absurd prices currently, as of (Aug. 2020). Part 1: Adding A Larger GPU: tinyurl.com/uj82olm Part 2: Adding A Little Airflow: tinyurl.com/r4zubgk Part 3: 4th Gen i5 GPU Selection Guide: tinyurl.com/sal243q Part 4: The Build: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZ-4h2OtfLWhhs0 Part 5: Windows 10 For Free: tinyurl.com/roazlrv
@wilsonbatuyong1147
@wilsonbatuyong1147 5 жыл бұрын
I so excited for this upcoming video.i have optiplex 9020 i7 pc.thanks in advance.
@Ivory805
@Ivory805 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been wondering do I need a monitor with a VGA cable to use this pc
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
@@wilsonbatuyong1147 Well, the next video is up about removing the HDD cage to install a bigger graphics card and I'm filming the next video on installing a front fan for better airflow.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ivory805 If you're not going to add a dedicated graphics card you will need a VGA or DisplayPort cable. There are adapters that will go from VGA to DVI or DisplayPort to HDMI, which would be my recommendation. If you're going to add a dedicated GPU, most have HDMI and DisplayPorts. Lower end cards still have DVI. However, I'm not seeing any that have VGA on them anymore.
@djditty8012
@djditty8012 5 жыл бұрын
Great timing finding this video. I’m going to pick up a couple 9020s tomorrow! 👍
@linuxlol3609
@linuxlol3609 2 жыл бұрын
After two years and price jumps, this video and screw it, this whole channel is still extremely useful on this topic, mainly with the hardware itself since prices have changed, but also what prices to look out for. It even helped me to understand that older generations aren't worth it. Thanks a lot, earned a new subscriber.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you found it helpful.
@elmarko9051
@elmarko9051 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, only 3 minutes in and you've provided more and better information than most other videos on this exact topic. Good Work!
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I really appreciate that and I'm glad you found it useful.
@frankimaserati1395
@frankimaserati1395 4 жыл бұрын
Fr I’m ignorant to these desktop.. super informative for a big dummy like me 👍👍 I just pick up 7020 sff
@galvestonco.rcenthusiast1890
@galvestonco.rcenthusiast1890 4 жыл бұрын
@@frankimaserati1395 me too!!!
@Wimmle
@Wimmle 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@onairtechnologies6529
@onairtechnologies6529 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, thank you.
@harveydarvey4585
@harveydarvey4585 5 жыл бұрын
I got a 7010 DT with an i7 and 8GB of RAM that was only $140. Even included all the cables, keyboard, and mouse.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
That pretty good. I really wanted to elaborate on the xx10's with the 3770. For a little more money, the 3770 will blow away the Haswell i5's. It does have a few compromises still, but I bought one and I plan to go over how to get around the SATA and USB3 slots blocking the GPU.
@urmomsahoe1
@urmomsahoe1 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench Looking forward to that video.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
@@urmomsahoe1 I think I'm going to tackle that one just after the new year.
@rockrecordreport7136
@rockrecordreport7136 Жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench This relates to the comment I just left about the 7010 being still a desirable box over any that are limited to 16Gs of ram. Please go into the 7010 towers (not SFF of course) details, and let us know if this is just not up to the 7020 in too many other ways. My investment into new PSUs and GPUs is worth it to me if I can move them to other Dells as I see a deal on a better new used Optiplex.
@wimpiepieterse1228
@wimpiepieterse1228 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for you video. I have a 7020 that was hit by lightning. I had it tested, and it's said only the motherboard. I have to choose between a 7020 with I5 and 9020 with I7 and $75 difference in price (I already have the I7 CPU). Your video makes it clear there's not much the 9020 does more so my choice is made. Thank you for clearing up the muddy waters. Incidentally you were also my coach to mod the original 7020 to fit the Nvidia 1080 and your instruction was my masterpiece. Thank you kindly.
@chasbader
@chasbader 5 жыл бұрын
I just picked up 4 different optiplex units for $50 each. Lots of businesses get rid of them because they are out of warranty, but that's not a problem for us, is it?
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
*looks up from cracking open a brand new GPU... Damn right!
@jammygiinger625
@jammygiinger625 4 жыл бұрын
Did you find them on a website or go around to local business asking?
@chasbader
@chasbader 4 жыл бұрын
@@jammygiinger625 looked for keyboards on craigslist. Saw the computers when I showed up. Asked him how much...
@datnoob9095
@datnoob9095 4 жыл бұрын
WHERE DO YOU BIY THEM FROM 😥
@chasbader
@chasbader 4 жыл бұрын
@@datnoob9095 I picked them up on a very touristy island. Go someplace with lots of hotels and start asking around the local E-cycle shops. All these PCs are now out of warranty so the hotels ditch them ASAP. It's all a business write-off for them so it's our gain. They work great.
@ΑντώνηςΖαντερίου
@ΑντώνηςΖαντερίου 4 жыл бұрын
My gaming pc is an optiplex 7020 with an i5 16gb of ram an msi 960 gt 4gb a 650 watt lepa psu and a 250 gb samsung evo ssd. until now zero problems and runs very fast. its worth every penny i put on it.
@21April853BC
@21April853BC 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a new subscriber. I just saw the title of the video, and I knew I had to watch. I haven’t purchased a PC in over 15 years. I just purchased a Dell Optiplex 780 minus of the power cord and the HDD for $20. I added an old legal copy of Windows 7 Pro, a 240gb SDD, added 8 more gd of DDRAM up from 4gb to a total of 12gb and now I’m upgrading the current dual CPU to 2 Quad Q9650 3.0 Intel Core GHz 12M 1333MHz 4-Core Processor for $23. The MOBO also have four slots for ram. It surprisingly has a fast boot up speed. I due plan to build a really sweet rig but this old Dell is just for fun and for general surfing and school even though I have a few laptops. This is my learning PC because I’m study for a COMPTIA A+ cert and other skill sets. I also upgraded my video card to a none exciting 2gb Radeon RX550 too. Overall I’m happy but I realize this is not a gaming rig but it can do emulation of course. Once I workout a few bugs this old Dell will be gtg and even better!
@Diastro
@Diastro 5 жыл бұрын
How many watts does your power supply carry?
@WellBeSerious12
@WellBeSerious12 4 жыл бұрын
Too long before upgrades, you missed out alot (properly used English contraction).
@ZacharyNoah
@ZacharyNoah 3 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a Dell OptiPlex 7020 SFF PC from eBay for approximately $200.00, and it initially came with the following specs listed below. CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 Quad-Core Processor at 3.60 GHz RAM: 8GB DDR3-1600 HDD/SSD: 500GB 7200RPM hard drive GPU: Intel HD Graphics 4600 OS: Windows 10 Pro (64-bit) I later spent some additional money on upgrades. First, I upgraded the RAM to 16GB, with future plans to further upgrade the RAM to a maximum of 32GB. I also salvaged a 1TB solid state hybrid drive from one of my older non-functional systems, but then I bought a 1TB solid state drive, and with my trusty SATA to USB 3.0 adapter, I cloned my Windows 10 partition from my hybrid drive to my new SSD. The last thing I upgraded was the graphics card, and the particular card that I chose was the ZOTAC GeForce GT 730 Zone Edition with 4GB DDR3 VRAM, as it's the most affordable 4GB graphics card that I could find. With the upgrades in place, my Dell OptiPlex 7020 performs very well with general tasks (Web browsing, watching videos, listening to music) and resource-intensive tasks (video editing, photo editing, animation). As for gaming, I'm more likely to play older PC games from the 1990's via DOSBox and ScummVM.
@erichkohl9317
@erichkohl9317 4 жыл бұрын
The first adventure I ever took into these OptiPlex machines was a couple years ago when I bought a 780 for about $100, added an additional 4 GB of RAM and threw in a GT 730 graphics card. Put Linux on it and it's still running. (I know a GT 730 isn't all that great, but it plays old compatible Steam games decently enough.)
@dennisdales7504
@dennisdales7504 4 жыл бұрын
Ordered an Optiplex 7020 from Newegg and got shipped a 9020 with a 128 gig SSD instead. Only 4 gigs of RAM but I'm waiting on 8 gigs of DDR3 1600 in transit. I put in a GTX 1650 OC from Palit. Even with the limited RAM I do have I'm running Fallout: New Vegas at ultra detail settings at well over 100 fps in 1080p. I'm using a legacy 42" Toshiba Regza as my display and it works incredibly well. The entire cost? 475 bucks CDN which is less than the price of a PS4 Pro in Canada. I'm adding more storage next week as soon as I can get some extra SATA cables shipped. Thanks for getting me back into PC gaming my friend. Stay safe and all love from Canada.
@jameswarner7435
@jameswarner7435 4 жыл бұрын
Subscribed! Every question and concern I've had about these affordable computers was addressed in this one video, and that is something that dozens of others here on youtube don't even attempt to do! I am beyond impressed by the amount of incredibly useful information included in this video. This no nonsense, practical and intelligent approach to modern computing is exactly what i've been looking for. Thank you so much for sharing this valuable knowledge with us and please keep up the excellent work! I appreciate the effort you're putting into these videos far more than i'm able to express in this comment. BRAVO!
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I really appreciate that. That's exactly what I started making these videos. Seemed to be so much misinformation, and left out information.
@jade007z
@jade007z Жыл бұрын
Finally one video with All my questions answered! instead of seeing like 20 videos You are Awesome! Thank you for this! 👏👏👏
@phiksit
@phiksit 4 жыл бұрын
One point you missed about the 7010/9010's is that it's one of the last systems to support XP drivers. So if you want to run older games you could configure a dual boot to run XP and a newer OS as well.
@nodak81
@nodak81 2 жыл бұрын
It's 2022 and I'm still gaming on my two 11-year-old 790 towers. I'm using i7-2600 CPUs, and GTX-1660 GPUs. I know they're old but they play everything I want them to on high settings. 400+ Steam games plus a bunch of MMO games. The SATA port issue is easily overcome by using special cables. They'll let you use all the ports while also having a long GPU card. In the case of the 1660 it only covers two of the ports so the other two can just use normal cables.
@MIDNIGHTCRAFT355
@MIDNIGHTCRAFT355 4 жыл бұрын
Recently bought a 7020 with an i5 for $10
@IPlayKindred
@IPlayKindred 4 жыл бұрын
U lucky son of a human
@AnthonyFuxUp
@AnthonyFuxUp 5 ай бұрын
I got a 3020 for 20 😔
@GreySkullification
@GreySkullification 3 жыл бұрын
I was able to score a 9020 i7 tower with 16gb dual channel ddr3 1600 with a newer solid state drive. $170 out the door. Newer 500 watt Power supply and dell compatible 24 pin adaptor cost me $40 with amazon prime. Have a 560ti and gt 1030. Amazed with the performace and what it is capable of. I got mine at a pc parts and repair shopbin Studio City, check ebay, offer up, good will etc. You will find a deal if you're in a large metropolitan area. Just be persistent and patient and watch his video so you know what to look out for.
@zellar1
@zellar1 4 жыл бұрын
I have been doing Dell Refurbs for a while now and I have done 5 now and this video is the most comprehensive I have seen....good job!! Thanks
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I really appreciate the positive feedback.
@todderbert
@todderbert 5 жыл бұрын
Got a 9020 with an I5-4590 with 4GB and a 2TB Drive for $130 shipped. Upgraded the Ram to 16GB with some sticks I had and plan to run some distributive computing and possibly some low end GPU gaming with a 1050Ti. The only issue I had is that the fans run way too slow. I took a simple six channel NZXT fan controller I had lying around and put it in the 5 1/4" bay. Wired the fans so that the RPM could still be read on the MB. Now I have full control on the case and CPU fan. These Haswell chips are great. I would suggest applying new thermal compound for the CPU. Mine was dried up and brittle.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
I found it's hit or miss on the thermal paste. Some I've gotten have been super dried out and some were still soft enough to be usable. I always replace it regardless and I'll definitely be pointing that out in the build video.
@secondsystems3479
@secondsystems3479 5 жыл бұрын
Niq here. Pretty detailed and in depth. As a budget conscious guy, I love these kinds of videos. Keep em coming!
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man! Thanks! I should have the build video put together in the next few weeks.
@stronghamster1560
@stronghamster1560 4 жыл бұрын
ayy we have the same name lmao
@fuloran1
@fuloran1 4 жыл бұрын
I put a half height card in a Dell Optiplex I got for free, and it works great. Plays Minecraft, PUBG, and tone of other games. It's a low profile card that only needs the power from the slot.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've got an LP 1050 Ti in my workbench system and my nieces and nephews never complain when they play games on it.
@skootles1
@skootles1 4 жыл бұрын
This incredibly informative video helped cement my choice of a 9020 I7-4770 for my first build- a video editing machine without spending the big bucks. I wanted something I could use to eventually make a new system out of, minus the motherboard, ram and chipset. The opti appears to have the most user friendly case and most upgradeable system of all the older computers. Thanks game bench guy!
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@RetroPiero
@RetroPiero 4 жыл бұрын
So going to Thrift Stores has really paid off for me this last week. I got that SAME Dell Optiplex 9020 shown in his video at a thrift store for $20, even took a pic of the price tag before removing it. Came with, -16gb of ddr3 -i7 4770 -dvd rw drive No type of Hard drive but I didn't care. Next I went on offerup and found a nice 600w EVGA PSU for $30 And I couldn't believe this one. On offerup too, a Radeon RX 580 8GB for $90 + shipping The 580 made me go drill off the HDD bay to make it actually fit inside. Now I have this sweet budget gaming pc for less than $130 The hunt is long but worth it in the end no less.
@ChristopherR96
@ChristopherR96 4 жыл бұрын
Hello! Thank you for providing this incredibly informative video. Last night I won a bid on eBay for an Optiplex 7020 for approximately $108 including shipping. The machine does not have neither an HDD or caddy in its case, nor a power cable, and I did not want to begin regretting the purchase at that point. Personally I did not want to interpret these missing components as serious issues, as the machine-according to the seller-had been tested beforehand, and is in virtually mint condition. As for the seller, they are reputable and the auction or purchase is supported with buyer protection. Fortunately I have a spare power cable laying around, but I had been searching on eBay for Optiplex 7010 HDD caddies since this one is missing, although I do hope that I can find a cheap one. The machine is equipped with a proprietary 3.30GHz Intel Core i5-4590 and 8GBs of RAM. It has no dedicated graphics card, and the machine instead uses its integrated graphical hardware. I just wanted to ask you, though, whether or not you personally thought that this purchase at its price point was worth it at all, and whether you thought that any further maintenance would be necessary before operating this machine.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
I've spent as much as $120 on these with a HDD and 8GB of RAM with i5's. I would say you didn't get a bad deal. Adding a HDD is cheap. You could find a 1 to 2TB drive for $20 to $30. I also highly suggest adding a 250GB SSD for about $30 as it really will make it feel like a newer computer. As for the HDD tray, I remove the HDD cage so I can put whatever GPU I want in these, but you can find the trays for pretty cheap on eBay. Also, if you want to add more RAM, another 8GB is about $15. I think it's totally worth it. If you're gaming, you can toss a dedicated card in there and with all these upgrades, have spent under $300 for a decent gaming computer. You can run up to a 1060 off the factory power supply with a SATA to PCIe adapter. I feel like that's wroth it and to get a similar system with new parts, you'd be looking at a Ryzen 3 1200 and the cheapest it would come in, is almost $600.
@Marcus_Cordeiro
@Marcus_Cordeiro 4 жыл бұрын
Made a great purchase ... Here in Brazil I found an HP ProDesk for 104 dollars without HD and ram, but I had SSD and 16GB ram Here spare. HPs are also good ... But of course there is a lack of a graphics card and a decent font, but still, it's worth it!
@leocorfield
@leocorfield 7 ай бұрын
I have the Dell Optiplex 9020, and I got it for just €85 on eBay. The price to performance is incredible. I average about 80-90 FPS in fortnite on performance mode. It came with an i5 4570, an AMD Radeon HD 8570, 4 GB of RAM and 2x 230 GB SATA SSD. But I do plan to putting an i7 4790k and an RX 6500 XT in it soon. So far I only upgraded the power supply to a 500W with the help from a 24 pin to 8 pin adaptor
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 7 ай бұрын
Any particular reason you're leaning towards the 6500 XT? Also, 4GB or 8GB model?
@leocorfield
@leocorfield 7 ай бұрын
​@TheGameBench because according to PC bottleneck calculator, the RX 6500 XT has a 0% bottleneck with the i7 4790k, which is the best CPU I could put in my PC
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 7 ай бұрын
@@leocorfield Well, the first piece of advice I can give you is to never look at those bottleneck calculators. Their information is dubious at best, and is very misleading. They're trying to boil something that's rather complex into a single percentage figure, and it doesn't work. Also, there are videos on KZbin that show how their figures don't make any sense. It's best to just ignore them. As for the 6500 XT, it's not a good idea to pair one with a 4th Gen CPU, and not because of any bottlenecking concerns. The 6500 XT is problematic in a Gen3 slot due to so many corners being cut. It only has four PCIe lanes, a 64-bit bus and 4GB of memory. So, if assets need to be swapped from the video memory to system memory, you end up with stuttery game play. There is an 8GB model now that helps a lot with these issues, but at it's price, you can buy an RX 6600 and not have any of those issues. People try too hard to avoid CPU bottlenecks and they overthink things, which can cause them to look at things like the bottleneck calculators, and buy a GPU that's just not a good idea. As long as the CPU isn't always at 100%, which can cause stuttering as well, you're simply not getting all of the performance of the GPU. Depending on the game and setting, it not avoidable. In highly optimized games, CPU bottlenecks are a norm. With bottlenecks, you just want to avoid spending too much on a GPU that's going to give the same performance as something cheaper, and this is going to matter with what games you play and at what settings. You might have a heavy bottleneck in one game you play, and next to no bottleneck in another with the same GPU. Anyhow, I wouldn't even consider the 6500 XT. It's a bad value and a bad pairing for the 4th gen CPU. Since you're upgrading to the i7, I would suggest the GTX 1070 or 1080 as being very good pairings at 1080p. Though, I think the RX 6600 is the best deal at around $120 on the used market and isn't a terrible pairing with the 4th Gen i7, while costing about the same as the 1080.
@rossgarner58
@rossgarner58 4 жыл бұрын
I got a 9020 with a i7 4790 in it and added 8gb more ddr3 1600mhz memory and a gtx 950 and works a dream.
@dnix4
@dnix4 4 жыл бұрын
Your literal my favorite person on earth after watching this
@encycl07pedia-
@encycl07pedia- 4 жыл бұрын
You're* literally* Earth* this.*
@ovjee_1534
@ovjee_1534 4 жыл бұрын
@@encycl07pedia- this isn't a spelling bee
@encycl07pedia-
@encycl07pedia- 4 жыл бұрын
@@ovjee_1534 It's not the Idiot Bee, either.
@ovjee_1534
@ovjee_1534 4 жыл бұрын
@@encycl07pedia- bro I could hear that in a kindergarten
@emilemeyer5547
@emilemeyer5547 3 жыл бұрын
Proper Information, LOVE IT . Thanks bro this was super helpful 👍🏽
@fooferbob9230
@fooferbob9230 5 жыл бұрын
I have always ignored the other videos for just the reason you cited. Thanks for this guide. It is just what I needed to advise my broke ass friends who want a entry-level game pc.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
Haha! That's awesome! I'm glad it was useful.
@thatguyontheright1
@thatguyontheright1 4 жыл бұрын
Picked up a 3020 for use as an emulation box. PSU was trashed. Upgraded it to an i7 and have a 1050 TI installed. I have two SSDs and a 2TB storage drive. came out like a bandit.
@SikhDestroyer
@SikhDestroyer 4 жыл бұрын
Only just come across your videos, but enjoying how 'to the point' you are
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I really appreciate it.
@TomBabula
@TomBabula Жыл бұрын
Some videos on KZbin suggest to use Sata to 8 pin adapter instead of replacing PSU. I myself got 7040MT but needed to minor case modifications, replace PSU and loose access to mounting sata drives in bottom bays due to all space taken by cables preventing closing the case. I already had old SFF system elitedesk 800G2 with i7-6700. Just got barebone optiplex 7040MT for $50, transfered ram, ssd, installed NVME, cpu, installed new cpu fan and gpu used rx6600 for $165. Can even run some older games at 1440p while still staying above 60fps.
@codybroken
@codybroken 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great comprehensive video! You said the 7020 & 9020 use the Q81 chipset, didn't you mean Q87? BEST EBAY BUYER ADVICE EVER: "...patience...you're going to have to wade through alot of crap to find a good deal..." Soooo true, but with patience, persistence and diligence you can find some epic deals.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
Holy crap! I can't believe I did that. That's a huge typo. Yes, the Q87 chipset. Thanks for pointing that out. And that's so true with eBay. Patience and persistence is the key to getting good deals in eBay.
@Okla_Soft
@Okla_Soft 3 жыл бұрын
I just got 4 9020s with i7 3.4 and 3.6 ghz for free the other day. Turning them into gaming rigs!
@heyrellic
@heyrellic 5 жыл бұрын
tried this experiment a couple of months ago, i went to a local news paper business that were throwing away Optiplex 990 machines with an i7 2600. I bought a 430W PSU and an RX480 from Craigslist for $70, bought a new 256GB SSD for like $25, and 2 additional 4GB sticks of DDR3 ram for 16GB total, and bam; gaming PC. It was a fun project. I gave it to my nephew as he'll get much more use out of it than I ever will though.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, I will say that the 2600 and the 3770 are the exceptions to the older systems. Especially when they're throwing them away. When I first started doing this, I was doing it with the intention to flip them, but I've been having a lot of fun doing it. It also keep me from building new builds that I don't need. Almost every one of them I've sold were to kids as their first gaming computers. It's pretty fun.
@MrSecondchancebro
@MrSecondchancebro 5 жыл бұрын
Playing BL3 on an i7 2600 1050ti no need to buy a psu, plug and play baby.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, I have an HP G1 600 SFF under my workbench. I put a 4690 in it with a 1050 Ti. Thing doesn't pull more than 180 watts at max load.
@heyrellic
@heyrellic 5 жыл бұрын
I was inspired once more. Got myself a 1050Ti today for $40 which require no power cable, lets see where this will take me
@williamkeltner5119
@williamkeltner5119 5 жыл бұрын
After almost giving up on my 9020 conversion I just wish someone could have mentioned that Netframe with several additions must be installed on Windows to properly install chipset and audio drivers with the 'entry point error'. Damn.
@josevalacanikaibau7094
@josevalacanikaibau7094 3 жыл бұрын
I've been looking around for someone to provide detailed info on low-budget Dell PC. I've just picked up a Dell 7020 with i7 and 8GB ram with 1TB HDD for $90fj. I've just installed a GT 430 with 2GB ram as that is the only CPU that I could afford as PC parts in Fiji are just daylight robberies and online shopping is not an option here. All I can do is watch these kinds of videos and dream of what parts can help my build "it's free". Thank you for all the info you have provided. Just earned a new subscriber
@nathannewman8254
@nathannewman8254 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, helped me buy my first entry level gaming pc.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@robertdaone
@robertdaone 4 жыл бұрын
The 7010s are my go PCs to upgrade. No issues with PSU compatibilities or needing special adapters. Everything I install works fine.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Sure, but that adapter is $12. With the xx10 you have the SATA and USB3 header in the way of any GPU longer than 8.5 inches. So, you'd have to buy cables, totaling to more than $12, to remedy that. Also, you have a loss of about 10% performance going from Haswell to Ivy. My point was that such a compromise over a $12 cable doesn't make sense at the same price. If you're finding 7010's for like $80, by all means, that's a great deal. However, at close to the same price as a 7020 or 9020, it's a bad buy IMO.
@robertdaone
@robertdaone 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench yah ran into issue with full length graphics card but installed a gtx 1660 which fit perfectly but takes up 3 slots unfortunately. Have been throwing every game at it with great frame rates. Wasn't bashing on your build just putting it out there the 7010 is a good platform also.
@TOSStarTrek
@TOSStarTrek 5 жыл бұрын
Looking to make a DVR for my TV and this looks like a perfect option.
@WellBeSerious12
@WellBeSerious12 4 жыл бұрын
An ITX PC, 'Android box', HTPC, or 'Smart TV device' (Amazon Fire TV Stick, others) are better options. Or 'Mini PC'.
@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe
@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe 4 жыл бұрын
@@WellBeSerious12 full windows is always a better option.
@TofuInc
@TofuInc 4 жыл бұрын
Got a 7020 SFF Optiplex off eBay for $49 shipped. Added 32Gb of ram, an i7-4785T, a LiteOn 256 M2 Sata drive (via an adapter), along with a Quadro P1000 AND a Quadro NVS 510. Using it to drive 9 23in Monitors. Extremely compact, low power and crazy cheap for what it will do.
@noneyabizz8337
@noneyabizz8337 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. I like the realistic prices, unlike some others.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@AFAnthony
@AFAnthony 10 ай бұрын
I remember watching this vid 4 years ago it was my entry to building pcs I remember everyone seeing it thinking it just was a office pc it was so underrated.
@sameershah-ye9qc
@sameershah-ye9qc 5 жыл бұрын
This guy is legit awesome 👌😍. He does the explanation way better than others. This is a hard working man..
@jar3avgamer864
@jar3avgamer864 8 ай бұрын
16gigs of ram and 500 gb hdd i7 4790 and he gave me a monitor the w2072a all for 97 bucks sweet deal
@vinniecorleone62
@vinniecorleone62 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize you changed your channel name until I happened to spot you in the thumbnail or beginning. Good to see you back making content.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. This one took quite a bit of work to get done. Far more than the type of videos I was making. I should be able to streamline things and hopefully get them up more often. I saw your update and I hope things are starting to get better for you.
@vinniecorleone62
@vinniecorleone62 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench Thanks, major life changing things on my end, my back is really bad waiting for surgery & I've lost the use of both legs from it. My wife's younger brother just died who she was very close with & his wife is in very poor health, so we may be raising his kids in Idaho down the road if things don't get better. Because of this I've taken some time away from YT. I love your subtle production values on your video, the various bullet points neatly lined up on the left side of the screen look top notch, terrific job editing & arranging your main points, quite impressive bud.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much man. I used to stress out way too much and now I feel like I'm doing much better even without focusing on trying to be perfect. And man, that kills me to read that. I'm so sorry and I want you to know I'm really pulling for ya'. Sucks that it's come to surgery, but hopefully it can give you back your mobility and quality of life.
@Thealgorithm-k4x
@Thealgorithm-k4x 2 жыл бұрын
This video is awesome! I'm buying a 7020 locally and wanted more info. Thanks!
@glenncurtis6037
@glenncurtis6037 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this vid. I learned a lot.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Thanks for watching it.
@newangelpark4551
@newangelpark4551 4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful for me, as a novice PC user . Not a gamer.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad I could help.
@peterharband326
@peterharband326 5 жыл бұрын
Nice overview. One of the best I've seen. Thanks bro.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I really appreciate it.
@SirenaWF1
@SirenaWF1 3 жыл бұрын
I got a great deal. My university was giving away old lab 9020s. 8Gb ram and an i5. So I'm upgrading mine.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's one hell of a deal. That's awesome!
@infinity2z3r07
@infinity2z3r07 5 жыл бұрын
I know it's not really the scope of this video, but older optiplex i3 sffs paired w those wimpy (by modern standards) oem radeon 7570/8570s are actually awesome retro xp machines! $50 out the door and your maxing out Doom 3, Half Life 2, F.E.A.R. etc.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
And I have thought about that as a possible video idea. Hell, the micro could even make a pretty cool DOS gaming/emulation system.
@TheTalonts
@TheTalonts 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench - I'd love to see that. I have 2 uSFF 790s that I'd love to experiment with. I just can't make myself get rid of them, they were too cheap and take up so little room, so I'm waiting to figure out what to do with them. I might grab some dirt cheap mSATA and mSATA to 2.5" adapters to toss in them (less than half the cost of a 2.5" SSD) and go from there.
@eglootler6407
@eglootler6407 3 жыл бұрын
Intel Pentium Gold G5400 3.7GHz 16gb ram gtx 960 4 gb runs league of legends and abominable world of warcraft card was 100E 2 years ago second handed they only new thing i got was ram 75E
@ishe570
@ishe570 5 жыл бұрын
I just want to give a big THANK YOU for this series. This was my first time building a PC. My job gave me an old 3020 with a i5-4590. Mostly everything was easy to install except the GPU. I bought the MSI Radeon RX 570 8 GB after I read a comment on the comments, which led me to remove the HD bracket. This couldn't have been possible without your help. You earned yourself a new subscriber. Thanks again.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I'm glad you found it helpful.
@ishe570
@ishe570 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench you're welcome. I'm looking forward to the build episode. I want to pop in an extra HDD at some point and I'm curious to see where I could put it.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
@@ishe570 Well, I put it in the 5.25" bay right below the optical drive and I mount the SSD to the side next to the front fan. I just need to film A-roll and edit and it'll be ready to upload.
@dustin2867
@dustin2867 4 жыл бұрын
hey! how’s ur pc doing? i’m planning on getting a 3020 too, what fps did u get? and was the rx 570 a good gpu?
@ishe570
@ishe570 4 жыл бұрын
Donut hey, my PC was running well but I ended up selling it for another pc. FPS was a mixed bag depending on the titles. I was able to play Fallen Order at 60 FPS in medium settings but it ran really hot (55C CPU - 62C GPU). It’s capable but you want to make sure to open the lid to allow air to escape.
@Kidowastaken
@Kidowastaken 2 жыл бұрын
Bought an optiplex 3020 with a i3 4160, 750ti 2gb, and 16 gigs of ram. Upgraded the cpu to an i5 4690k and and waiting to buy a gtx 1060 right now. Best part was was that i got it for $110 instead of $130
@TimRoseOfficial
@TimRoseOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
Great channel and video my friend! Way to go hitting almost 850! Keep it up! 👊
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I really appreciate it.
@hjpinternet1244
@hjpinternet1244 Жыл бұрын
Thank You ! This info was exactly what i needed 4 years later ! 😊
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench Жыл бұрын
Though... if I were to make a new video with recommendations... I'd suggest looking at the HP Z240.
@hjpinternet1244
@hjpinternet1244 Жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench Thanks for reaching. will have a look
@Tech215Studios
@Tech215Studios 5 жыл бұрын
Bro youre the optiplex Guru!!! Jesus!!
@ThomasTheTankEngine22
@ThomasTheTankEngine22 4 жыл бұрын
FINALLY SOMEBODY WHO GOES IN-DEPTH AND EXPLAINS EACH SYSTEM NOT JUST THE CARD
@nathanmilnthorpe11
@nathanmilnthorpe11 5 жыл бұрын
Subscribed for the Sheer Research you Put into your Information :-) Absolutely Fantastic informative Guide right here!
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I really appreciate it. Glad it all really paid off.
@SonofaFritzFilms
@SonofaFritzFilms 4 жыл бұрын
I've spent hours researching this subject, and yours explained more than any of that time and other videos. Thanks so much!
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Glad I could help.
@SonofaFritzFilms
@SonofaFritzFilms 4 жыл бұрын
The Game Bench and I appreciate your more recent videos on the subject! Watching em now, thanks again for all the info. Got a new sub!
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
@@SonofaFritzFilms Thanks! I really appreciate it!
@WTBMrGrey
@WTBMrGrey 4 жыл бұрын
I just ordered a 9020 since I have watched all your vids now. Thanks for all your advice.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@tomass6432
@tomass6432 2 жыл бұрын
Got refurbished 9092 SFF with i3 8GB 128GB SSD with 2 year warranty. I purchased it for my mother just for basic internet browsing, printing... and it works great! I love these machines
@awildumbreon8638
@awildumbreon8638 5 жыл бұрын
a bit late, but since i just recently bought a 7020 without ever knowing this video existed. i got mine off of a auction, well 2 from a auction since i payed a bit much for 1 of them, this came with 1 keyboard, 1 mouse and 2 screens. without a HDD or SSD, it costed me 56$, i already had a old pc with LGA 775 so this was a well needed upgrade, the i5 4590 is a decent powerhouse, but i decided to spend 114$ on a used i7 4790, could have gone for a K for a bit more, but got stuck with this thing since i bid a bit high. Anyways, i was using a 1650 OC around 2000mhz core clock on my old pc which was bottlenecking my cpu, Even now this 1650 bottle necks my cpu on forza horizon 4 max everything. but either way i run max on any game i play with 0 fps drops. TLDR dont bother replacing your PSU, just get a 1650 with the money you would save on buying a PSU, its cheaper in the long end and 1080p is all you would be able to play anyways
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
Still seems like a decent deal. $170 for a 7020 with a 4790. Best I've gotten those for is about $200. Toss in a 2TB HDD and and 16GB of RAM and you'd be at about that price. Also, I've found that the PSU can even run a GTX 1060.
@droningandgoing9286
@droningandgoing9286 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah same thing I did, just I bought a 9020 and then watched the video.
@nahpets2345
@nahpets2345 4 жыл бұрын
I've got the Dell Optiplex 3020 with i7 4790, 8GB RAM and 500GB HDD with Windows 10 Pro for 210€ in my local PC store. I think it's a decent deal since 3020s are harder to find with i7, but less USB 3.0 ports doesn't matter to me despite the fact I never use them. I'm planning to upgrade to the max supported amount of 16GB, 1TB HDD, 120GB SSD, 500W PSU and GTX 960 2GB or 4GB from AliExpress. I can't wait to upgrade my rig!
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the USB3 and RAM slots are somewhat nitpicking. The SATA power on the mobo is my biggest complaint, but a non issue if you're replacing the power supply. Sounds like it's going to be nice setup.
@nahpets2345
@nahpets2345 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench I agree, but usb3, 2 ram slots and sata power don't matter to me
@andromeda6431
@andromeda6431 4 жыл бұрын
Nice, i don’t like your gpu’choice , please get a 570-580 since it would perform way better with the i7 compared to the 960 2gb.
@nahpets2345
@nahpets2345 4 жыл бұрын
@@andromeda6431 I don't like AMD, I had a laptop with AMD GPU and it fried and I'm not trusting AMD again.
@thatguywithemail1431
@thatguywithemail1431 5 жыл бұрын
Dude... I bought an Optiplex 3010 with an i5-3470 and 8 GB DDR3 ram for $60. I added a 240Gb SSD($25), a PCIE extender($5), GTX 770 Windforce ($50), and an EVGA 600w PSU ($40) I have a now have a very capable Gaming PC with almost no effort or money spent. A used XB1 is $200 my new PC performs better and cost me less.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
Nice work. By all means, at $60 I feel like one of the xx10 series are worth it. You certainly can find good deals locally, depending on where you are.
@RivaldoAldoduapuluhlimajuli
@RivaldoAldoduapuluhlimajuli 5 жыл бұрын
God dammit man! Here in Indonesia, with i5/i7 3rd Gen, it can go way up to $250 or even $350 due to the processor branding, while the companion components (HDD, PSU, etc) is still working but very trash & low level shit! I wish I can buy these things with that kind of price over there! Because of that, i finally took lower level by catching used G41 LGA775 Motherboard , Core 2 Quad Q9400, 2x4GB DDR3, a 120GB SSD + 1TB used HDD, 450 Watt 80+ PSU, Armageddon Infineon 1000 Case, and used Radeon R7 240 GPU for backup computer & little "casual" gaming rig. Still kickin though, CSGO & Dota still get 60FPS at 720P lowest settings.
@tomcraftdonkey2285
@tomcraftdonkey2285 5 жыл бұрын
A few reasons to also consider an optiplex 9010 is because it has a 24 pin motherboard connector insted of an 8 pin one. I know you can get adapters, but this stuff adds up. If you are going to upgrade it to an i7(third gen) , it is a good amount cheaper than an i7 for the 9020, which won't perform much better for the price. The power supply doesn't matter because anyone who is going to upgrade will be getting a new one. The sata ports getting in the way of the Gpu is no big deal because you can get right angle connectors. I'm sorry for being rude earlier. I'm just saying that you shouldn't necessarily just avoid the 9010.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
No worries, and those are fair points, but I should say that the 7010/9010 are worth it if you can get them at a better price than a 7020/9020 with an i7, so 3770 vs 4770/4790. Yes, the difference is rather marginal, but when they're about the same price, why not go with the xx20 and save some hassle. I would totally consider a 9010 for the right price... around $170 as you can get around the SATA ports USB port with adapters, but that's going to cost you more than the 8-pin to 24-pin converter. I will say that I am looking for a 7020/9020 with a 3770 to do a video to talk about this, where I'm going to point all this out. I still would flat out avoid Ivy Bridge i5's however.
@dennisdales7504
@dennisdales7504 4 жыл бұрын
I ditched PC gaming years ago in favour of consoles once HD TVs came out (X-Box360). Too much trouble. Maybe it's time I took a second look...
@dskillz32
@dskillz32 4 жыл бұрын
Way too much trouble but I’ve been trying to get into it here lately using one of these routes
@cpa2mba1
@cpa2mba1 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the guidance. I just bought a Dell Optiplex 7020 MT Intel Core i5-4590 3.30GHz 12GB RAM 2 TB HDD Win 10 Pro for $100 plus $28 shipping. They said it has 1600Mhz RAM - but it did not. eBay Seller is shipping 1600Mhz RAM now. Great job.
@WellHellRaquél
@WellHellRaquél 4 жыл бұрын
Just picked up a 3010 for 71 bucks. (eBay shipping prices!!!) within my budget though and I plan to upgrade the ram and throw a gpu in it. It will mostly be used for designing t shirts. But may play a game or two sometimes
@Ziyoblader
@Ziyoblader Жыл бұрын
I think the best deals I found for these types of the computers are surplus sales like you said that these computers were used for like sheriff's department librarian county etc especially the small form-factors I was able to pick up them for like $75 that would slap at 1030 in years ago I wouldn't recommend it LOL nowadays you can find something a lot better like the RX 6400 which is around the same performance as a 1650 but for today way cheaper
@dellstudio10
@dellstudio10 4 жыл бұрын
I got myself a HP elite with the i7 from eBay about a year ago to use as a spare gaming PC. Then Threw in a refurbished 1050TI that I also got from eBay. It’s been flawless so far and I couldn’t be happier with it. It’s extremely quiet and plays everything fine on high settings so far. I’d definitely buy another old office PC, they are impressive for the price.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
They really are. You can have a system that costs the same as the X Box 1 X, used for used, and the PC outperforms it. I started playing with the OptiPlex to keep me from building more expensive builds, and over 20 on and I'm still enjoying modding these suckers and flipping them.
@santospoland
@santospoland 2 жыл бұрын
You are the Optiplex king. Excellent videos! Just terrific.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you found it helpful.
@gamepad3173
@gamepad3173 3 жыл бұрын
I mostly chose the 9020 on a good deal (300 dollars on ebay,but I'm replacing the keyboard and mouse with the razer Cynosa Chroma and the Death Adder Chroma).
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 3 жыл бұрын
At $300, you might consider looking at the HP Z240 workstations. You can sometimes find them with an i7 6700 for around that price.
@gamepad3173
@gamepad3173 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench interesting idea,and those workstations could serve as Firewalls or a DIY router.
@looeegee
@looeegee Жыл бұрын
This is amazing, you really did your research, here's a new subscriber, thank you good sir! :)
@ryantorpea6960
@ryantorpea6960 4 жыл бұрын
Man this is incredible. So much fat to trim here, you’ve made it sooo much easier and more clear. It’s a convoluted market for these now that there is so much content about it being a “gaming computer”
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I really appreciate it.
@GreaseLightning02
@GreaseLightning02 3 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful. Thank you!
@twangyyy18888
@twangyyy18888 4 жыл бұрын
I bought an optiplex 7010 and put a 1060 3gb and a new hard drive and I added an ssd and more ram and a new power supply. It is a very good idea to do this. It's cheap and not bad
@kyles8524
@kyles8524 5 жыл бұрын
you can get these motherboards and Im mainly talking about the optiplex 790( which are surprisingly not proprietary with the power connections or mounting holes, so they fit in a custom atx case) with a cooler and an i5 2400 for 30 on ebay, 12 dollars for some plain x2gb x 4 sticks( 8gb total) of ram and get a diypc case which is like 30 with a good branded 80+ plus 500 watt power supply and you can put almost any mid range video card in it all for about 150 dollars.I just built my friend this set up for christmas with an rx 480 cause he wanted to play fortnite and some others and this setup smashes 1080p maxed out....ish.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
The xx20 mobos are standard mATX and the mounting for the HSF is standard 115x. If you're talking about any system with this chassis, that is the case. As I already said, the power connector is easily solved with a $12 adapter... it's a moot point. The 2nd gen i5's have worse 1% and .1% lows over the 4th gen. It's an over all worse gaming experience. I wouldn't suggest a 2nd gen i5 anymore, not the 1333MHz DDR3 you'd have to run with it. You're tripping over so many other compromises to avoid one with the xx20 series.
@kyles8524
@kyles8524 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench Im talking about price vs performance mainly. Ive seen the builds with the other series as well worked with them from finding so many at local electronic dumps thats Ive ran into way more compatibility issues you have to waste on adapters cause even at 12 dollars your dropping price to performance.Also as Ive benched tons of these machines from 2nd gen all the way up to fth gen the 1% and .1% lowers are negligible at best on a spare gtx 1070.The only real difference is pci-e 3.0 compared to pci-e 2.0 on the 2nd gen which doesnt matter with these machines as being cpu bound anyways and almost the same cpu architecture.As for memory Ive also tested low frequency ram with higher latency to higher speeds with lower latency and once again performance is negligible at best.Unless you consider a 3-5 fps difference a worse gaming experience at the price difference from 2nd gen to a 4th gen of 50 dollars more is up to you to decide I guess but in 1080p your pushing well over 100 fps.But considering I have close to 20 of these machines sitting in my shed from 2nd gen to 5th gen I have done extensive testing with the ram modules and that gtx 1070.Thats the only reason I suggested the 790, no proprietary connections, no adapters, lower price for virtually the same performance.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
@@kyles8524 Well, my testing doesn't match up with yours. There's a clear difference between the 2nd gen and the 4th gen. There's a clear difference between 1333MHz and 1600MHz. You also can't complain about price to performance when you have to buy SATA cables to be able to install a GPU over 8.5 inches. You've just spent the same amount of money. Besides, in the xx20 series, you can run a 1060 on the stock PSU. You don't even have to replace it, so... And a 1070? Hell, the 4th gen is a pretty decent bottleneck for a 1070. It's 1% and .1% lows are on par or even worse than a 1060. The frame rate is sometimes even as low. The 2nd gen is going to be even worse. It's a waste of money to pair a 1070 with one of these i5's. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, but I've seen my testing and there's a clear difference. I have a system with a 2500 to test against. The only way I feel someone should consider any i5 older than a 4th gen, considering the rest of the compromises, is if it were a lot cheaper than an xx20. Especially the 2nd gen. It better be really cheap or what they already have.
@kyles8524
@kyles8524 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBench Yeah but that 1070 wasn't an actual card I was going to use lol it was just for testing purposes cause it was just lying around and I wanted to make sure I hit a cpu bottle neck before I hit a gpu bottle neck which surprisingly in games that were centered around 4 core optimization I was getting about 60% utilization with all the quad cores I tested 2nd-5th gen..But with games obviously made to utilize more than 4 I almost instantly hit 100% cpu utilization.With the sata cables they fit just fine, just slide then under the bottom of the card in front of the pci-e bus not over or around the card, Ive ran into problems like that on other office machines but not any optiplexes.The real bottle neck of these old i5 cpu's is there IPC.I tested that 1070 on my ryzen 3700x with all but four cores disabled and I was getting close to 40 more fps clocked at the same speed with my ryzen processor.But in general I think anyone on a really low budget these i5 office pc's make a good substitute.My buddy wanted to play fortnite and pubg and a few other games so I threw him together a optiplex 790 and some parts I had lying around with that i5 2400, 16 gigs of plain ram and an 8gb rx 480 blower style stock cooler and an some older antec 80+ 500w psu with red and yellow spaghetti colored cables, and out of curiosity tallied up what it would have cost him to build the same thing and it was around 200 dollars.So price wise like you were talking about is pretty good for what you can do.To me thats kind of a crappy computer but to a light gamer I think its worth the price for the performance.Because I dont care if its intel,AMD,nvidia. Doesnt matter whatever is the best price to performance.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
@@kyles8524 Oh, I won't argue that if you can get a x90 with an i5 for super cheap, they'll game. I'm just saying that I don't see them going for that much in my area, and especially not on eBay. The 990 I bought for testing was $90. For that much it makes zero sense to buy over the xx20, or even the xx10 series. That's what I'm getting at here. I'm not saying they're trash or that you should, under not circumstances, buy one. I'm just saying that for close to the same price as the xx10 and xx20 series they don't make sense as the price to performance, as you say, is worse as you paying pretty much the same money to get less features and less performance. If you're getting these for $50 or less, then that's a different story. As for the SATA ports, I guess it depends on the GPU. Most of the GPU's I tested would slot in, but put a lot of pressure on the SATA cables. Not something I would suggest doing, and IMO, I wouldn't sell one without using some LP cables. It's cutting corners and I wouldn't give someone a product like that, because I wouldn't run my own equipment like that... but that's just my opinion.
@cptwhite
@cptwhite 5 жыл бұрын
The 3010, 7010 and 9010 are recommended BECAUSE you can upgrade the PSU. It has a standard 24 pin power cable. The 3020, 7020 and 9020 have a non-standard connector and become more propriatory, as can be seen at 2:55 So they're actually more limited and harder to work with. Get a Dell 7010 fitted with an i5 3570 ideally, it has 4 DIMM modules to allow upto 32Gb RAM (or 16Gb RAM for a £24 in the UK if you buy from CEX 4x 4Gb modules), upgrade the PSU to a CX500 or similar, and get a short length GTX1060 3Gb for around £100, and a 500Gb SSD for around £40 All in the system should cost around £100 for the base unit, £100 for the GPU, £25 for the RAM, £40 for the SSD, £45 for the PSU.... £310 total spend for an i5 quad core boosting to 3.6Ghz, 16Gb DDR3 1600, 500Gb SSD and GTX 1060 GPU. Or upgrade to a 2nd hand GTX1070 for around £380 total. (£170 budget for GTX1070)
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
Okay... here we go.You have one compromise going with the 7020/9020 vs. like four with the 7010/9010. With the xx10 series, as I already clearly pointed out, the SATA ports and USB 3 port will block the installation of any GPU over 8.5 inches. There are ways around this such as low profile SATA cables or 90° SATA cables, and with the 90° SATA cables you're only going to get to use two of those SATA ports. To keep use of the front panel USB you will need a low profile USB 3 connector/cable. The next compromise is the power supply, as I already pointed out, is a lower wattage PSU. I know it's only a 15 watt difference. However, that 15 watts is the difference in being comfortable running an RX 480 and having to replace the power supply. Last is the Ivy Bridge CPU. Now, I can only speak to my area, the U.S. for prices, but the xx10 series cost about the same as the xx20 series, and the Ivy Bridge i5 is too long in the tooth for me to recommend, especially at a similar cost, along with all the other compromises. All that being said, the 7020 and 9020 have one, the 8-pin ATX main power connection. Well, you buy a single adapter to go from the 8-pin to the 24-pin for $12 and problem solved. It's honestly a moot point and you'll spend more on all the cables to make the xx10 series work, and potentially replacing the power supply when you wouldn't have had to with the xx20 series, and you'd have a "marginally" faster CPU. The only way I would recommend the xx10 series is of someone finds a good deal on one with the 3770. If we're talking budget system, I pay $100 for these 9020's with 4590's all the time with 8GB of RAM and a 500GB HDD. Then I get an 250GB Evo 840/850/860 for about $20-$30. Ex-miner RX480 for $55. SATA to PCIe cable for $3.50. Toss in a fan for $9 and I've spent just under $190 to build one of these systems. I can add another 8GB for about $12.50. All this being said, my point still stands. The xx10 series is more of a compromise than the 7020/9020.
@sagiriizumi8079
@sagiriizumi8079 4 жыл бұрын
Found a 790 SFF for $19. I cut the slots in the back (easy), got a SATA to 6pin adapter for $3 and crammed a GTX 750 TI in it. Works GREAT. It came with an SSD, The small form factor is THE BEST. Sure the card is tall for the case, but I LOVE the form factor and it destroys my old PC in power and size.
@MohseenLala
@MohseenLala 4 жыл бұрын
I got a optiplex 7010 with a core i5, planning to add a gt 730 and 16 gigs of ram and n ssd.
@213theninja6
@213theninja6 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like 16 gigs of ram is a bit overkill compared to the gt 730. If you're gaming, consider investing more money into the GPU.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
I would agree. I would allocate more money to the GPU. You're going to have problems with that GPU long before 8GB of RAM. Especially at the settings you'd have to play at with the GT 730.
@iEatSnow
@iEatSnow 4 жыл бұрын
I went a step up, looking for workstations and ended up with a Dell T3610 w/ xeon 1620 v2, K5000 & 685W PSU and HP Z420 w/ 1650 v2, RX480 & 600W PSU. These were bought for around 225/ea shipped after tax but I was able to sell the K5000 and RX480 cards that came with them, to get each computer about 100$ cheaper net. The Xeons shred and there is no concern about powering a real gaming card from the workstation builds. Each system has cables available for ~15$ to get proper 8+8 power, plus the dirt cheap ECC ram is an upgrade path. The HPs even have a chance of coming with a stock watercooler on the CPU, ram cooling fan+shroud, etc. These game very comparably to a modern build using an R5 2600 w/ matching GPU but for a little more than cost of the newer processor. If youre patient with your purchasing, you can find an RTX 2060 for ~250 or less on ebay and get a workstation for ~150-200. If youre timing is great, the workstation may have a Quadro card installed to sell to lower the cost further. Either way, youll be gaming very nicely for console money.
@rrrrr0_
@rrrrr0_ 4 жыл бұрын
just had to pause the video right in the middle to comment what has been said countless of times already but idc :D it's easy to follow for the most part while not being oversimplified (or literally leaving out crucial information like other youtubers do) and for once i'm actually understanding a bit of what is said even as someone who is COMPLETELY clueless about PCs and never has built one before lmao. great content
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
That's really my drive... to make these video digestible for people of all experience levels. I'm glad you found it helpful.
@gioescamilla5187
@gioescamilla5187 4 жыл бұрын
I picked up a 9020 about a year ago with an i7 4790, 16gb ram, 128 SSD, 1TB HHD, and a Radeon R7 250 all for the extraordinary price of $50. I'm going to put a GTX 1650 in it to see what results it gives me.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Should perform as well as the 1650 can. It will certainly be your limiting factor there.
@noboost9447
@noboost9447 4 жыл бұрын
i've got the optiplex 7020 with an i5 running 16GB of RAM and a RTX1060. its Dell pc's are sooooo underrated
@noboost9447
@noboost9447 4 жыл бұрын
GTX1060*
@stupedstuff7757
@stupedstuff7757 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man you saved me from buying the wrong tower, thank you!
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 2 жыл бұрын
No problem... glad I could help.
@FalconWing1813
@FalconWing1813 2 жыл бұрын
VERY WELL DONE. Huge thanks man!
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you found it useful.
@one2toomany
@one2toomany 5 жыл бұрын
Sff: replace the PSU with smaller higher watt unit. More power, more space for GPU, board sata power no longer an issue, use the PSU sata power. Also, use a 5.25 bay adapter that includes a slim DVD and two 2.5 drives. Worked great for me.
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 5 жыл бұрын
Are you talking about adding an SFX PSU in place of the propietary PSU in the SSF units? I had planned to mess with this by mounting it on the side of the chassis as I didn't think it would fit in the case. However, unless you're cutting out the side panel, any LP GPU isn't going to have a problem running off the stock PSU.
@daniellabouef6914
@daniellabouef6914 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a 3010 for $100, with a 1050gtx mini for $100. It came with i5, 8gb of ram and windows 10 pro. I am planning to do some modifications as well running some games through a projector
@Mburu_FX
@Mburu_FX 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarification. It was on point
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad it was useful.
@paulwestphal7336
@paulwestphal7336 Ай бұрын
Very useful video. I have done a 3770 with a 970gt, 4770 with a 5500XT and now a 4790 with a RX580(2048sp).
@yourdailybread8611
@yourdailybread8611 3 жыл бұрын
You did great I learned a lot thanks I decided to go with a 9020 thanks so much. Subbed your channel
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@Kapplerartbloomingdale
@Kapplerartbloomingdale 4 жыл бұрын
I am running a terabyte and a half of hd, msi graphics cared, and 16gig ram. Perfect for music on windows10
@jabencalas2174
@jabencalas2174 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched almost all of your videos on the Optiplexes multiple times, and they gave me the confidence to make my own budget gaming build. Thank you very much for the hard work you put into your videos!
@TheGameBench
@TheGameBench 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! And there are more on the way.
@Bluekbizzel_gaming
@Bluekbizzel_gaming 2 жыл бұрын
I just recently bought a i7-6700 7040 sff optiplex and see I'm limited on what I can do. I'm just gonna upgrade the ram, NVMe m.2, it has a 500gb hdd which I might do a sata sdd and gonna probably go with the gt 1030 low profile because of the limited power supply. I plan on getting a z1 or z2 motherboard and another case and PSU and swap everything over. I picked mine up locally off of ebay for $70 bucks.
@mancman-bu4kz
@mancman-bu4kz 5 жыл бұрын
I am new to pc gaming been a console guy all my life however for £120 and an extra £50 quid I purchased an optiplex with i3 and 8gb ram and a nvidea 710 graphics card and as extras bought a gaming keyboard and mouse from company called scan, it currently plays all my fps games flawlessly and games within a 5 year time frame eg/batman arkham series witcher 3 and so forth aswel as old faves like doom duke nukem red alert etc. I think was bargain but as say I'm a newbie to all this lol
@HonestLettuce
@HonestLettuce 4 жыл бұрын
I do agree with not bothering with small desktops if your gaming, I have a CIT case that is quite slim but when I'm gaming I need to manually set my CPU fan to 85%, my GPU fan to 95% and my front intake to 100% with the side panel off. It is annoyingly loud even through headphones. But I will say it is fairly quiet while web surfing and just general stuff.
@ryanrohauer5940
@ryanrohauer5940 4 жыл бұрын
doing a 3020 with an i5 build right now. doing a 1200w coolmax psu and a msi gtx 970 gaming gpu and 500gbssd. got a good deal on the psu
@IHadToMakeThisAccount
@IHadToMakeThisAccount 4 жыл бұрын
You are a GOAT! I'm a super noob with PC's and all the other videos they go over things where you need to know some things off the cuff, you sir did a great job. I'm excited to get my first Windows-based computer since Windows 98 lol
@valde4
@valde4 4 жыл бұрын
Just got a 9020 with a 500gb samsung ssd, 16gb of 1600mhz ram, and a i5 4570 cpu for 100 euros! Planning to put a 1060 6 gig in it, and later upgrade the cpu to i7 4790 when i get the money for it. Perfect rig for 144hz 1080p e-sport gaming, and the whole thing will cost under 300 euros!
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