Dell OptiPlex GPU Upgrade Guide

[@TheGameBench]

I did want to add that I initially wanted to have a 580 in here, but considering the results, it wouldn't have really mattered and I know that there's no way you can run one on the 290 power supply anyways. So, what GPU are you planning to run in your OptiPlex build? Speaking of which, we've picked out the GPU so it time to get to the build.

[@seriksson9721]

Good question, as development is progressing all the time and I think gpu will be better in terms of performance and energy efficiency. I remember the performance of gpu from earlier that required almost 1000 watts psu. Personally, I think something slightly better than 1050 ti is enough, and if you get a little more performance for a little more money then .... I am happy to listen to your recommendations.

[@krimnullz3166]

Do you think it would work with a undervolt

[@triniking1234]

I wonder how the GTX 1650 Super would've done.

[@TheGameBench]

@@seriksson9721 For sure. I have a 760 here and it made the 1060 6GB look like it was sipping power by comparison and it was on the level of something like a 1050.

[@TheGameBench]

@@krimnullz3166 Sure. The question is how far are you willing to under volt, keeping in mind you'll have to drop clocks as well and at what point are you just going to be at the level of the 570/1060? I mean, if you have one already or can get one for super cheap, it wouldn't really make sense to go that route rather than just getting a 1060.

[@boodycf4467]

I can't believe how underrated this channel is... High Quality videos, Smooth voice that I can listen to everyday, Guides for upgrading the Optiplexs... Surely you earned my sub

[@TheGameBench]

I really do appreciate that.

[@Fizzoid]

Ditto! Came across these videos after looking to upgrade a Vostro 3900 (i5-4460 with a 300W 80 Bronze PSU) and I can't believe how underrated these videos are!

[@hassana8373]

Here before this channel inevitably takes off. Love the quality and level of detail!

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks. Now if I could only get these out quicker.

[@greasemonkeymechanic1]

Killer timing as I just purchased a 9020 and was just shopping for the GPU for it. Thank you for the videos, I look forward to more from you as I build my first gaming PC. Your optiplex buyers guide is what got me started, you answered a lot of questions I was having while looking for a way to start building a cheap, but good starter PC.

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! I'm happy I could help.

[@mrepicbruh2839]

Damn man recently the content is 🔥

[@_4zad]

Your channel is completely underrated. This is a very "real" video giving you realistic info and tips. Awesome work man!

[@tyresetaylor1754]

this guy is the ultimate OptiPlex guide on KZbin

[@cellularmitosis2]

Just wanted to say thank you so much for putting this together. Just pit together a system following your advice. It is insane how good of a deal used PC’s represent today.

[@TheGameBench]

It really is. Spend console levels of money for much higher performance.

[@leredflame286]

Your guide was perfect for what I needed I actually ended up going with a 1060 6gb in my 7020 build. Thanks for the video!

[@Marius0189]

Great videos ! I've just installed today on the very same unit, 9020 , a AMD Rx 480 sapphire nitro+ 8 Gb and a EVGA 500w GD psu.The GPU fitted just about perfect ,and I didn't have to remove the HDD cage(as seen on others).Wanted the Rx 580 nitro+,but as I've checked the dimensions it turned out that the 580 what a little bit longer so I just went for the 480. The psu ,5 min install,simple.Tested few games ,NFS Payback ,Metro 2033 Redux, Apex Legends,some Dirt Rally (nothing fancy,more to come),all on ultra ,60 fps or even more .I got the i7 4790 non K ,with 12 Gb ddr 1600 .The whole system with the upgrades cost me about 285 £.I got the tower unit (CPU,MB,RAM,250 gb SSD ,500 Gb HDD,Wi-fi card) for 130£ ,the PSU 50£,and the rx 480 from amazon 99£ (refurbished though).Overall ,as a casual gamer I think it will be enough.I'll be changing the CPU cooler as well in the future.

[@Wheel333]

I got the same gpu it was a tight fit, but had to saw a little tab of plastic off the pcie retaining clip.

[@johno9163]

I stumbled onto your channel and am so glad I did. This is the definitive source for anything Optiplex!

[@myamaha62]

Can you do a show that explains what CPU options we have with 4th gen i5? Thank you. I am using these cheap optiplex pc. To learn how to work on and later build a pc. This way if I make a mistake and break stuff. I am not out of a lot of money.

[@TheLinkhawkins]

Just picked up an Optiplex 9020 i5-4590 8gb RAM and a 1050Ti for just over $200. Should be here soon and I'm glad you tested the same 1050Ti I got.

[@samvin7206]

Just bought 8 optiplex MT desktops so pretty happy to see this!

[@38entamitc98]

from where?

[@sahilsarwari7398]

Probably bought them at a bulk price from a school who are replacing these with new pcs

[@samvin7206]

Oh sorry I never saw any response to my comment! I purchased them to build gaming desktops for some of my friends who want to PC game. I built each of them a PC with i5-4590 or the i7-4790k it was purely luck of the draw. I also installed 16gbs of ddr3 and MSI GTX 1070 8gb. I also upgraded the power supply to 600 Watt PSU.

[@southboundtp2067]

@@samvin7206 I found a GREAT bulk deal and currently doing the same thing, the content here is everything. . .

[@DerekRobinsonTech]

I just upgraded from a 7010 DT (which I have for sale) to a 7020 MT, this channel is great for what I'm using this for, my setup is a PULSE RX 570 ITX 4G G5, and a ARESGAME Power Supply 650W 80+ Bronze Certified PSU (AGV650) with the i5 CPU. I got the machine off of ebay from a local seller so the cost was low. I plan on upgrading the 16GB of ram to 1600 MHz as I currently have 1333 MHz in the system, thanks for the advice and for having such an informative channel! SUBSCRIBED!

[@AlohaBiatch]

I really like the details you go over and the reasoning for picking certain optiplexes. I got a hp elitedesk with i7 6700 recently but it's a complete crapshoot with completely non standard PSU connectors and only one available sata power that's too short for PCIE to SATA cables. The standard parts that the optiplexes use seem much more interesting for upgrading!

[@TheGameBench]

Yeah, that's what I've found with HP. You leave a lot more to chance. I've seen some that won't even supply 75 watts to the PCIe connector so you can't even add a decent GPU. Though, I thought it might be fun to do a comparison between these OptiPlex's and the ProDesk 600/800 systems.

[@seriksson9721]

@@TheGameBench It sounds like a good idea, and or content from an HP SFF to a larger case. I have some thoughts about it myself, but you are much better.

[@F_e_l_i_x_]

Very nice work on showing Watt's consumption vs people just guessing and trying to make others "believe" they need 400 - 500 watt PSU's, adapters and more lies than just a Sata to 6 / 8 pin adapter and you are good with a stock 290 watt PSU. Thanks! Great video! Professionally done!

[@VirmanaMarketing]

Watched 2 of your videos. This is absolutely fantastic. The level of detail you are providing is outstanding. Keep grinding and this is going to be a very well-known channel very very soon.

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! I appreciate it.

[@vergz_oner]

Thank you just got me a Dell Optiplex 3020 i5 4570 this week for 100.Didnt know what GPU to use

[@TheGameBench]

Just keep in mind that the SATA power connector on the 3020 will keep you from installing certain GPU's. Look for a more flexible card or a shorter card. Anything with a backplate that's long enough won't work with the SATA power cable plugged in.

[@iceyberq]

@@TheGameBench do you know any rx 570s that work with it?

[@TheGameBench]

@@iceyberq If anything has a shot, it's going to be something that has closer to the reference clock speeds of 1244MHz on the core and 1750MHz on the memory. I've been trying to get the Asus Srix 570 or 470 for a decent price to do some power testing to see how much they consume, but there aren't a lot of them for sale.

[@iceyberq]

@@TheGameBench I see I'll prob just go with a 1650 since I found one on b&h for 110

[@edgar01111980]

I just got a used optiplex 390 Stripped out the guts and installed my current pc parts. And Im so glad my rx580 fits perfectly without removing the drive cage Its beautiful! Thanks man!

[@TheGameBench]

Nice! And, no problem.

[@lalonghorn01]

Great video! I've been watching your videos on modding these Optiplex systems. I have done the same thing (adding better power supply and graphics cards) with the Dell Workstation T1650 and T1700 which are in a very similar case. The only major difference is the front panel design.

[@TheGameBench]

Yeah, the Precision is essentially the same. However, they can be found with a 360 watt PSU with a 6-pin PCIe connector. However, the OptiPlex XE2 has that PSU as well.

[@MrRaheninm]

I just finish my first game pc and this series off videos are top tier, first i buy a 790 small form factor for normal use, later i get a 9020 case mid tower when my work was updating their work pcs (i am from Latin America and in here is too expensive to buy new parts) and i did a case swap to have the space to a good gpu (i needed to take the hd cage and adapt the front usb), with some money i could get a new power suply and a cool zaphire rx 580, a ssd and now for the first time in my life a can play current games. Been a gamer in a third world country is hard my last means of gaming where a 360 and a laptop of 2012, you can imagine a have a loong wish list of game s i want to play I am grateful for all the guidence i get from this channel

[@TixTakChannel]

I'm so happy i found this channel keep up the good work man, i almost 99% never sub or write a comment but you deserve it !

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks, I really appreciate it!

[@wp-wisdom]

You're not that special @Anas Benhayoun

[@sprockylock391]

Just found you bloody brilliant ime 56years old from redditch just took early retirement looking to get into pc gameing watched many build bids over the past couple of weeks but found yours solid and truffle ime going down the route of doing a pre built and upgrade as ime hands on and do my research. ime going to look again in my local cash converters as ime 100% sure they have some of these recomend optiplex in for around a £100. My local C.E.X ALWAYS has GPU's and ssd hdd in abundance at good prices Many thanks for sharing with us love deffo got my sub respect

[@TheGameBench]

Awesome! I'm glad you found it useful and appreciate the support.

[@seriksson9721]

Very interesting video about an always current detail. Everything is a compromise and I think you mention important and good things. The Optiplex series is good and affordable should be a very good choice. Thanks so much.

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks!

[@seriksson9721]

@@TheGameBench In fact, we viewers are or should be eternally grateful that you want to share your knowledge. I usually look at Yes tech city as well and especially his pursuit of used parts, but it is often the case to find the harmony in the building as well. It should preferably be both affordable, perform well and not burn up.

[@TheGameBench]

@@seriksson9721 Yep, I watch his videos too. I've been building since the late 90's and I had never thought to mess with pre-builts since owning my first, and only, one in the mid 90's. His videos are actually what inspired me to start messing with these OptiPlex's.

[@aaaproduction9437]

i5-3470 rx570 (the bottleneck is 7%) vs gtx 1050ti (the bottleneck is 0.7%), I am getting the same price for both (Sapphire nitro+ Rx 570 8gb and gtx 1050ti 4gb), and we all are waiting for your next video as well, Thank you so much for making videos for midrange budget pc gamers

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! I really appreciate it.

[@stevenwilliams6638]

Fantastic video. I was looking forward to this video for awhile , and you didn't disappoint. I am still currently clearing out all of my Sandy/ivy bridge Dell Optiplex's. I have picked up a few 4th gen systems. This video saved me a TON of time. Keep up the great work. -Cheers

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks man! I'm really happy that it helped you out.

[@chrome1560]

You Know what!!! job is done none can do better respect!!! respect!!! respect!!! standing ovation Fantastic video. I was waitting to this video for awhile , and you didn't disappoint

[@TheGameBench]

Wow! That's some high praise. Thank you so much!

[@elchivo3770]

Dropping a comment for the algorithm .

[@neutrino9689]

Good for you!!! Show that algorithm who's the boss :)

[@FWTG]

@@neutrino9689 That Algorithm needs all the love it can get!

[@magicstick5811]

Great video, very in-depth. I purchased a 790 i5 2400 a few years back and would've definitely appreciated this knowledge (by going with a haswell model). Anyways, I've fitted an RX 570, 16gb of ram, SSD, and I'm looking into fitting a xeon e3 1280/90. Anyways, great detail and information. I've watched your other optiplex build guide videos and they're quite amazing, since you're the only channel that covers the SATA port blockage on certain models along with the case mod by removing the HDD cage.

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! I really do appreciate the feedback. That Xeon will be an even better option that the 2600. Higher boost clocks and more cache.

[@mattparker9726]

you should do a follow up video with a haswell i7. id like to see the 1070 performance with the cpu upgrade.

[@TheGameBench]

You read my mind. I'm already doing testing for that. I just picked up the last CPU I need and I'm going to do a similar video using i5's and i7's from the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gen as a comparison. And I'll be using a 460 all the way up to a 1080 Ti.

[@mehulmathur7699]

This is by far the most detailed video I have seen . Looks like you are somebody who knows his stuff. Thank god for youtube recommendations. Quick question: why are you not putting new videos, the last one was a long time ago :-)?

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! I really appreciate that. I've been taking a break, selling systems since demand has been so high, but I recorded a new video yesterday and I'm planing on focusing more on the channel.

[@josedeleon1923]

I have a 9020 i7. Guess i will keep saving money to buy a 1070 or 1660

[@TheGameBench]

Yep, you could even go with a 1080 or 1080 Ti. Seeing the 1080's go for around $280 these days.

[@josedeleon1923]

The Game Bench Would you also recommend an RTX 2060?

[@TheGameBench]

@@josedeleon1923 Depends on what you can get it for. It's use for ray tracing is pretty limited and you'd be looking at about an extra 10 FPS over the 1070 for about $100 more. If you want to go new, it's not a bad way to go, but for the same price, you could get a 1080 which is 2060 Super territory.

[@xtinctt2723]

Is the optiplex 7010MT better or the 9200

[@videogamephenomhd]

Depending on how strong the GPU is, the power supply may need to be replaced, because the default one cannot take all the force the GPU brings in it. A gold certified power supply would be recommended if any GPU were to take cover for the upgrade.

[@TheGameBench]

Absolutely. There are a lot of GPU's the stock power supply shouldn't really be paired with. That being said, power consumption is rather simple, yet one of the most misunderstood concepts in gaming PC's. Also, saying that people should just get an 80+ gold rated power supply is terrible advice as it has nothing to do with the quality of a power supply, it's ability to handle the amount of power it is advertised for, if it has any protections built in... if they even work, etc. There are plenty of garbage 80+ gold rated power supplies on the market. The 80+ rating should be rather low on your priority list when buying a power supply and there are FAR more important aspects to focus on.

[@aubah]

Thanks for the great video! I will install a gtx 1650 super in a few days using the stock PSU. I will let you know if it worked or if everything exploded :D

[@TheGameBench]

Yeah, you'll be fine. The 1650S pulls less power than the 1060 6GB, so you won't have any problems with the stock PSU.

[@aubah]

@@TheGameBench Yep all went just fine :)

[@aubah]

Guys, do you think that the 8 pin gtx 1660 super will be fine too? www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N166SOC-6GD/sp#sp

[@aubah]

Or maybe the 125wat max consumption of the card might be too much for a 75wat pcie + 25wat sata cable and adapter?

[@Tom-cx6vh]

What kind of performance did you see I really want to do this!

[@kurtphair1446]

You make awesome in depth videos that aren't the same conventional semi science that lots of hardware guys spew. Would love to see a video about power supplies and the problems with 80+ as a measure of quality!

[@TheGameBench]

Oh yeah! I would love to do that video. That's one of my pet peeves.

[@edgar01111980]

But mah drives? 😅

[@FWTG]

Edgar this needs a T shirt.

[@harveydarvey4585]

Got really lucky finding an Optiplex 7010 DT with an i7-3770, 16 GB of RAM, 500 GB HDD, keyboard, and mouse for only $110+$30 shipping. Only issue was the 240W PSU and the fact that the case was too small to fit the new 600W EVGA PSU ($38.01) and MSI GTX 760 (friend gave it to me for only $7 shipping) that I got for it. So I ordered a new mid ATX case ($37.91) that'll becoming in soon to fit in all the new upgrades. All in all the total cost came up to $222.92 then with the Dell monitor ($16.99) and Dell speakers ($24.52) I found it goes to $264.43. Having lots of fun building this and I can't wait for the case to come in so I can finally finish the build which I feel overall was low cost for what I got. After the end of the year I'll probably be GPU searching though I'm not sure what will fit the i7-3770.

[@Pengouin007Quebec]

Ty very much, yes, very helpfull to me and family 👪 I'm the family tech so your videos are cool 😎

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! I'm glad you found it useful.

[@antysoxial2336]

Amazing video bro keep it up

[@nunyabusiness896]

FINALLY someone filming the screen during benchmarks instead of wasting performance on screen capture. So tired of “it gets another 10 fps without screen capture”, there’s no point in showing a bench if it’s not accurate to the real experience.

[@TheGameBench]

My thought's exactly. Though I am considering getting and external capture device and use another system to capture the footage. Would save me a lot of time.

[@nunyabusiness896]

@@TheGameBench Fair enough. As long as you aren't robbing frames from the computer running the game, I'm good with it.

[@babyfrass13]

You gained a sub from you current, but mostly you old videos. Solid work

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! You're talking about my older console vids? If so, I plan on making more of those.

[@Fatmasters11]

I'm glad I stumbled upon this channel. I use to have an I5 2400 paired with the Zotac 1060 6gb mini, and in Battlefield 5 I use to get constant stuttering and frame drops. After I upgraded to an i5 8400 with the same 1060, the stutterings are completely gone with a higher average fps. I think games are starting to use 6 or more cores in order to run buttery smooth. The prebuilt desktop I purchased was the Refurbished Acer Aspire TC-865 along with a 500-watt Evga PSU and an additional 8gb of Ram which totaled up to 430 USD + my $150 gtx 1060 6gb= 580 USD. My question to someone is "Did I overpay"?

[@TheGameBench]

Yeah, it's crazy how many people have gotten upset about my comments about the 2ng gen i5 in my buyers guide video. Like it was a personal attack or something. Quite a few people have even argued with me about it in the comments section. I actually bought a 990 with an i5 2500 that I'm going to do a video on and I found that which thew average frame rate wasn't all that different, the 1% and .1% lows were. I think most people still don't get why they're more important and your comment about six cores is spot on. Newer games are just using more and more cores which is why the i7's, even the 2nd gen, are still relevant while the older i5's are really not aging as well. You've got a pretty solid system there and with 16GB of DDR4 and a decent PSU, I'd say that $430 wasn't a bad price at all.

[@Fatmasters11]

@@TheGameBench Thanks for the reply

[@xxboostedxx871]

I recently replaced the motherboard in my optiplex 390 it works great!!

[@thepopeofkeke]

I just finished my first halo build but videos like this is what helped scrape your way to the top

[@TheGameBench]

Should probably make a new one for the i7.

[@ProLaps69]

I just stumbled upon a 9020 i7 4790 MT for $169 at Goodwill and bought on a whim. I am going to build my father a hot rod media computer. Thanks for the great content! Can't wait for more!

[@TheGameBench]

That's awesome, and thanks! I'm glad you found it useful.

[@randallsmith2521]

I found this at the perfect time. I do think that now (9 months later) it would have been nice to have seen power figures for a 4x4GB RAM setup just in case that makes a big difference. In any event, you've given me the data I need to select GPUs for some flips.

[@TheGameBench]

Yeah, the difference between, say... a 4x4GB vs 2x8GB setup is going to be pretty negligible. Glad I could help out. Though I don't think I would push the 1060 anymore unless people listened to updated buyers guide.

[@peterharband326]

Very good analysis bro. Have a 17 2600 paired with a 1060 3gb and 17-3770 with the rx 580 8gb. Both run well although a 1070 or a 1660 super would seem a better match in my opinion. Although the 580 is factory overclocked to 1430 mhz, I run it at 1290 to conserve power and doesn't seem to make a fps difference at 1080p

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! And yeah, even with the 2600 you still have a lot more headroom on the GPU. I picked up a 9010 with a 3770 and it make s a good alternative to the 9020 with the i5 since you can get them with for about $160. Something I really wasted to elaborate on in the buyers guide, but didn't have time.

[@jameswubbolt7787]

Your explanations are clear and detailed. GOOD JOB. Thx.

[@skootles1]

I love your channel! Your how to videos on opti are through and precise, thank you for sharing. They helped alot, from deciding which model opti to buy and reasonable upgrades like the case fan, power supply, graphics cards and hdd cage removal. I am not a gamer. I am building a 2014 opti 9020 gen4 i7 haswell for video editing, hoping to use it for adobe suite and blender. Sort of like a v8 engine stuffed under the hood of an old volkswagon, I would love to see a modern motherboard utilizing PCIe NVMe hard drive and intel cpu build inside the optiplex case. Thanks for all you go, gamer bench guy!

[@martkolokoy3089]

Best videos i ever watch about optiplex.. Explained perfectly

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks!

[@Lightning0614]

These videos are so informative, and don't make me go to sleep unlike hardwarecanucks.

[@PrettyboyPa]

Wow great guide! Becoming a fan of the channel with how descriptive and informative it is.

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! I really appreciate it.

[@afmggamez8193]

The Optiplex video you did is the reason why i got my Dell Optiplex 9020. These are my specs: CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590 CPU @ 3.30GHz Memory: 16.0 GB DDR3 SSD: BTO-240 GB HDD: 2TB GPU: Intel(R) HD GRAPHICS 4600 (So obviously I do not have a graphics card) Based on your video and some research I did, I will need to upgrade my PSU. I am still confused on what graphics card I should purchase. Thanks for the information, I appreciate it. ALSO I SUBBED TO YOUR CHANNEL!

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! I appreciate it. You don't need to upgrade the power supply depending on the GPU you're going to go with. On the nVidia side, you can go with the 1050, 1050 Ti, 1650, 1650 Super, 1060 3GB/6GB, 1660, 1660 Super and the 1660 Ti. The AMD side is a bit more limiting as Polaris is pretty power hungry. So, you're really looking at the 460/560. There are some 470s and 570s that will work that are closer to the reference clocks, but the only one I've tested that I can absolutely suggest, is the Asus Strix RX 470 non-OC. The 5500XT might be an option as well, but I've not been able to get one in for power testing. You'll just need a SATA to PCIe 8-pin adapter for the RX460/560 and all the nVidia cards up to the 1060 3GB, which I've linked in the description. If you want to go with the RX470 Strix or 1060 6GB and up, on the nVidia side, you'll want to use a dual SATA to PCIe 8-pin adapter as those cards will potentially use more than the 54 watt limit from a single SATA power connection. If you really want to, you can replace the power supply, but I really only suggest it if you're going with a higher end 470/570 or an RX 480/580. If you're gaming at 1080p, the 580, 1060 6GB, 5500XT and 1660 are pretty much the best cards I'd pair with the 4th gen i5. If you're gaming at 1440p, the 1070 and the 1080 makes sense, but I would suggest the 1660 Super or 1660 Ti over the 1070 as you're getting similar, or better, performance, but it can run on the stock power supply. Sorry for the long response... but as you can tell, I need to make an updated video.

[@afmggamez8193]

@@TheGameBench thank you for that valuable information I truly do appreciate it. Ill continue to do research on what I should do.

[@TheGameBench]

@@afmggamez8193 Happy to help.

[@afmggamez8193]

@@TheGameBench could you narrow it down on what's the best options? I want to upgrade my power supply too.

[@TheGameBench]

@@afmggamez8193 What's your budget?

[@WellHellRaquél]

I got a 3010 with an i3 for 70 bucks with shipping. Plan to upgrade the psu and add a video card. I also have a compatible i7 from an old optiplex I tore apart. Already checked and it’s all compatible. Also gonna flag the bios to the latest version so I can have 16gb of ram

[@robertravena]

Nice video and informative except I had to repeatedly pause the video to catch what GPU's you were talking about as they are not listed below in the info panel

[@Stephen1873]

I have a Optiplex 9020 with i5 4570 16gb of ram 240gb ssd evga 600w psu rx 570 armour 8gb. Im happy with it.

[@TheGameBench]

Trust me, the 570 would have been my choice if not for power consumption.

[@afmggamez8193]

I have an optiplex as well but dont know what i should put in it

[@mayanking213]

Thank you for this video, you did a lot of footwork for us budget Bums, I don't know why some folks would even want to criticize you in a negative way, but I AM NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE! LOL thanks again!

[@TheGameBench]

You're welcome! Honestly, I'm not. You just have to look at dislikes on videos. People will hate on anything. But I appreciate the support, like this, and that keeps me wanting to make videos. Besides, I want to help people... I don't care if people who don't have any idea what they're talking about come out of the woodwork.

[@goodlookinghonkey8382]

People will go to strange lengths to find something wrong. Lol, It's life to some people.

[@gregscrap]

Very good video hope to see more.

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! Next video will be up in a few days.

[@NajaetheGamer]

After watching your channel for weeks I thought u had like 500k subs lol🤣by how professional your video’s are

[@AchiAhisar]

I just want to thank you for all this work you've done to teach and help us! I'm in the process of collecting the parts to build a revamped Optiplex (or similar), and your videos have been the most helpful so far on KZbin! You've got yourself a subscriber... Thanks!

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! I'm glad I could be of some help.

[@dennisdales7504]

I bought a GTX 1650 OC along with an Optiplex 7020 with the i5-4590 thanks in no small part to your videos and advice. I wanted to build a low cost PC for 1080p/60 fps gaming. It's been years since I've done PC gaming since I use a PS4 Pro. I'm just waiting on Newegg to ship. Should be an interesting experience!

[@bobsontheturtal9179]

Did you ever get your system to work I tried the exact same thing and couldn’t get it recognise my gpu in bios

[@imec00]

Great content. It looks like you are testing these graphic cards on the system you removed the hard drive cage. If that is the case you may want to make it clear at the beginning of the video and/or description in case people jump to this video without seeing your previous ones. They may think any video card would fit. I know I had a hard time finding out what length card would fit on a base model Optiplex. Which card would you recommend for a case that has not been modded? Apologies if I am wrong.

[@TheGameBench]

Nope, that wasn't the system I used in the video to remove the HDD cage. That system is still in parts in my workroom for the build video. I do have a card right at the beginning to the GPU modification video, but that's a fair point. I probably should have mentioned that this is provided you did the mod.

[@CharlesDParker]

I'd like to have you demonstrate the setup for showing the power measurement. I have a watt meter and have measured the entire systems I use. CPU, GPU and have looked at the meter idling and gaming with video streaming so the wifi also stepped up. I'd still like to see your setup.

[@rafaeljerez6260]

I just found this channel and Whoa! is amazing! I want to dive a little bit into the pc gaming world, i have a HP Prodesk that has an i5 4th gen and this is perfect for me to start comparing and looking; I am not so smart guy, but DUDE The info, and the quality, you make things look like very clear and kinda easy, man keep it up with the content is just amazing. Thabk you. By the way, are you the same guy of Nick930 channel? 🤔 the voice... 🤔

[@TheGameBench]

Hmmm... similar, but nope. Not me.

[@Patrick-dx2hx]

Hey sorry for bothering you @The Game Bench but would my dell optiplex 3020 work with a gtx 1650 super? I just wanted to know because you didn't put the card in your video. Love the video tho

[@TheGameBench]

You're not bothering me. I'm happy to help. I didn't have a 1650 Super for this video, but it consumes less power than the 1060 6GB, so it's completely fine on the stock power supply, and you could get away with up to a 1660 Ti on the stock power supply. If you're curious how it performs, I tested the 1650 Super in my 2nd, 3rd and 4th comparison video.

[@TheGameBench]

But in terms of bottlenecking, as long as you have an i5, or better, you should be fine. You'll only run into problems with games that have trouble with quad cores, but they would be a problem regardless of what GPU would used. Assassin's Creed Odyssey would be an example.

[@Durkhead]

Any way u could do a comparison between optiplex build or low budget ryzen build like 2200g

[@TheGameBench]

I could. I can't say that it would be soon, but I'll see if I can grab one.

[@CarkBurningMoo]

Sorry for commenting on an old video.. hope your channel is still going strong. I'm hoping to use a SATA to PCIe 6-Pin to power a 1060 6GB on an optiplex 9010 which has a 275W gold PSU. The SATA cable can take 54W apparently, and it's also attached to my Boot SSD which i've read don't draw more than 4W. The only other choices to share a SATA chain with was the optical drive or the hard drive, which i've read can both draw 10W+, so i went with the high-risk high reward option (i hope) of the boot SSD. The thing that worries me is that the two +12V rails draw 10A and 17A respectively, but only output 240W combined.. a i7-3770, 4x 8GB DDR3, 1060 6GB, optical drive, hard drive, SSD, CPU cooler, exhaust fan, motherboard... what chances do you think the PSU and adapter cable have? Thanks in advance!

[@anassharif1081]

love your channel u really deserve a sub

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! Also, I saw you left a comment about your 4770k... but it's gone for some reason. Anyways, I'm actually working on the video now, but I'll tell you that I would recommend a 1070 or 1080. But you'll have to change out the power supply. The 1660 Super is close to the 1070, but will run off the stock 290 watt PSU, but if you have a 4770K, that might be more power draw than I would recommend.

[@php4u]

Mentioning Dunn-Kruger, nice!

[@welleducatedman1388]

I have optiplex 7040 I7 6700 8 gb of ddr4 ram 1 TB hdd 240 psu What graphics card should I use Without upgrading the psu

[@TheGameBench]

Being a 240 watt PSU, I'd stick a 1650. Go for one with GDDR6. You might be able to get away with a 1650 Super.

[@rdooski]

Thanks for the great in depth video on the exact subject I needed. Is the serial ata to pci express adapter needed for all the cards? Or the 1050ti and 1060's in particular? I will be going with one of those.

[@TheGameBench]

You're welcome, and thanks! There are 1050 Ti's that don't require external power and some that do. The cable I have linked in the description will work for both 6-pin and 8-pin connectors. However, all 1060's will either be a 6-pin or 8-pin and will need the adapter.

[@rdooski]

@@TheGameBench Awesome thanks for the reply! When looking at adapters I noticed one that had 2 sata's bridged into one 6+2pin. Does the power supply in one of these opti's have 2 sata's available. If so I think using one of these adapters would help distribute the amperage. Here is a pic of one i.ebayimg.com/images/g/UFgAAOSwjGpZ209P/s-l1600.jpg

[@TheGameBench]

@@rdooski Sorry. I thought I had responded to you. You're on the right track that it would help distribute the amperage. I would say that really only will matter if you're dealing with really thin conductors on the adapter. Stock you have four SATA connectors in these, so you'd have to add one, or not connect the optical drive. Really though, as long as you have a decent one, you should need that much amperage. If you're GPU is pulling enough current to worry about that, you probably want to considering just moving up to a PSU.

[@rdooski]

@@TheGameBench No problem. Ive had everything running for a couple weeks and it turned out to be a great setup. I did the 7020 with a 1050ti, 14gb ram, and a ssd. Im using it as a htpc and needed something to play high bandwidth 4k movies and it does it without breaking a sweat. Thanks for all the videos, they really helped out with the build.

[@TheGameBench]

@@rdooski Awesome! Thanks, I really appreciate that. Glad it all worked out for you.

[@mikemurley8656]

Great channel and a great guide. I am curious as to where you put the drives after you cut-out the 3.5" cage?

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! I just put the HDD in the bay right under the optical drive. There are brackets that will adapt a 3.5" drive to a 5 1/4" bay, and there should be extra screws in the front panel that you can use so it will work with the latch. For the SSD, I just use some 3M Command strips to hold it to the side panel right next to the fan. If you want more specifics, that video should be up on Thursday.

[@flashesbuck]

I have been going back and forth as to what to order, This video has been alot of help, but it looks like prices have shifted. I would really like to cap the cost of a card to $120 and right now the GTX 1060 all look like they are north of $150. I believe I read at one point (from a comment here, made by you) I could run the RX 480 on the stock power supply, But in the video you state its really a bad idea. Buying a new power supply isn't out of the question either, but would rather allocate that additional funds to a new monitor.

[@TheGameBench]

If I said 480, then it was a typo. You definitely shouldn't off the stock PSU. The 570 might be fine, but it's really cutting it close. I've been seeing that with the 1060 as well. It's been that way for a while and you really have to be patient to get one closer to $120. People are nuts to spend $150 on one. At that price, a brand new 1650 Super makes more sense. If you can find an ex-miner 480 or 570 for around $60, that will give $60, give or take, for a good PSU and the adapter.

[@abdaimegaming2679]

i totaly enjoyed your video, thank you for the good content

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks, I appreciate that.

[@IqbalAhmadNazrawi321]

can u suggest whether I can go with 1070 in 2020......as I have an i7-4770....would it bottleneck the 1070....and also can you suggest as to where I can buy used GPUs...like 1070 or 1060 6gb variant online........also I have a 320-watt power supply..........honestly your video is amazing...hope u make it to the top......i really love your work Will be waiting for your reply😊😊👍😁

[@TheGameBench]

I just built a system for someone with a 4770 and a 1070. Works great. If you really want to see this in video form, I have a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gen CPU comparison video and I go over bottlenecking and performance with a 4790, which will be pretty close.

[@IqbalAhmadNazrawi321]

Thanks mate for the reply....teally appreciate your help But will 320 watts be enough for 1070....and also where can i buy used graphics cards in todays situation?

[@TheGameBench]

@@IqbalAhmadNazrawi321 Ah, I guess I missed that. No, a 320 watt isn't enough for a 1070. If you want to go with the 1070, I'd consider going with around 400 watt minimum. It'd be fine for a 1060 6GB... if that is a continuous rating and depending on how much wattage it provides on the 12v rails. Either way, I don't know if you're in the U.S. but I get them off eBay and I'm paying around $220 for a 1070. 1060 6GB models are all over the place. Sometimes you can get them for a reasonable price, around $120, but those are few and far between. I don't suggest paying more than about $140 for one.

[@drizz9567]

been following your advice so far and its been going great with my dell optiplex 7020.i wanted to ask if you still recommend the 1060 6gb till today? thanks for all the help so far

[@dragos-alexandrusofronie1482]

So, you were right this system does impede the 1070 a bit. By the way what glorious card a 1070 is. It appears we are moving towards needing more than 4 cores/ 4 threads for gaming. I think a 4-th gen i7 would still hold. Cant wait to see more videos on this channell.

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! Yeah. I thought the Far Cry 5 results were especially interesting, how they just... plateaued like that. I very surprised that it even started to effect Doom.

[@gedkealmen]

Great video! Thanks! Question regarding the SATA to PCI-E 6 pin power adapter: On the Optiplex 9020, all peripheral power cables come from the motherboard, the PSU only has cables powering the CPU 4 pin and the motherboard 8 pin power connectors. When you power the card with the SATA connections using the adapter, you are effectively pulling all the system power usage through the mainboard, not directly from the PSU. Shouldn't that be a concern due to overheating or reduced motherboard lifespan expectancy?

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! All the power comes from the power supply. The SATA power is merely being re-directed through the motherboard. A single SATA power connection is rated for 54 watts. So, as long as you're not asking too much of the adapter, it will be fine. There's no risk of over heating the motherboard or damaging it. With the 1060 6GB you'll consume 75 watts from the PCIe slot and about 45 watts from the single SATA power connection. The entire circuit... even more. I even measured temps in the adapter, as well as the SATA cable from the motherboard. Other cards besides the 1060 6GB that will work are the RX 470, 5500 XT, 1060 3GB, 1650 Super, 1660, and 1660 Super. Anything more than these should not be used with the adapter.

[@lsrtz1108]

Hi, am I able to pair this 9020 with a rx 560? Will I need a new PSU+24 to 8 pin adapter? If so, will I need any other component so I can run this card? Thank u, your videos has helped me a lot :)

[@TheGameBench]

Yeah, no need to upgrade the PSU for an RX 560. You will need the SATA ot PCIe adapter, but it will run fine on the stock power supply.

[@davidkennedy832]

I tried an AMD xfx Radeon rx 580 after I went from a 450 wt Insignia power supply to an EVGA 550 B5 modular power supply. When I first fired up the system it was beautiful. Then I got the gift of no pointer and Everything in the taskbar just left of the time and date disappeared. The cursor came back but it had a little blue blinking wait circle tagging along with it. If I clicked to open anything it appeared on the taskbar but never ran. I finally ran it past support and they pronounced it DOA. I returned it today. MEH ! Now I have to start GPU shopping again. I just thought this would sort of complete your GPU comparison. Thanks again for all of your great tips.

[@my-yt-inputs2580]

Love your Optiplex vids. Just wanted to point out my experience with upgrading the GPU. I too was using a 9020. Upgraded power supply and an i7 instead. Great so far. I was going to install a spare RX580(Red Devil version). Unfortunately the fan shroud on the Red Devil version is so large it interferes with the rear slot quick release locking tab. Crap....it wouldn't close all the way so couldn't use it. Luckily I had a spare RX570 that worked fine. So it seems that locking tab might get in the way of "some" GPUs depending on brand and how they're designed.

[@TheGameBench]

Yep, I had completely forgotten about this when I made this video. I'll be doing an updated video to cover more CPU's and more GPU's and I'll make sure to include that tip in there.

[@tonymartinez4552]

i absolutely love this channel

[@javilokox]

Also you have to take into consideration the size of the gpu, wich in most cases if you really want something powerful you will have to mod the case removing the hdd cage

[@TheGameBench]

Absolutely, and I do talk about this in other videos going over the systems. I fully suggest removing the drive cage as the first thing an Opti owner should do.

[@Ehliax]

this is a really good video. congrats

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! Appreciate it.

[@guybergman3702]

Hi there loving the videos and all the great tips and information thank you. I have an Optiplex 9020 and Im curently using an old GTX 960 4GB, do you think a GTX 970 would draw too much power or would this still be within the safe limits of the 290W PSU? I realise the GTX 980 would draw too much power. At the moment here in the UK the1060 6GB is still very expensive used but the 970 is significantly cheaper. Thank you.

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! I'm actually kind of surprised you're running the 960 on the stock power supply. They can consume up to about 250 watts on their own. The 900 series consumed a lot of power. That being said, the 970 can pull as much as 290+ watts. So, definitely don't try to run the 970 on it.

[@guybergman3702]

@@TheGameBench thank you very much for that much appreciated. I will avoid a 970. It's a Zotac GTX 960 Mini. According to The Nvidia Experience Benchmark overlay it's drawing 140W at load but I've no idea how accurate that is. Would be interested if others have tried similar. Also holds up suprisingly well in light 1080p gaming still!

[@moleyboy9650]

Great video man!! very useful indeed. Keep it up :)

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! Will do.

[@threeballedtomcat9380]

I am using a Dell Optiplex 9010 with the Win 10 OS, an SSD and 2 Tb HDD , I7 3770 , 16 Gb DDDR3 ram , the BIOS is changed from Legacy to UEFI and has a RX 560 4gb Video card. Other than optimization for gaming there is nothing "special" about it and it has no other hardware changes. I do intend to upgrade the PSU to a 500 watt unit so I can install a RX 580 8Gb card, but for now this PC does just great for the games I want to use it for. I have a total of less than $200.00 in this PC. My last build (died last October with 26,000 hours on it over 8 years) cost well over $1400.00, so this PC is the ultimate bargain.

[@Genuflect84]

Very solid advice, thank you for your thorough testing and price to performance graphs. 1060 6gb is a solid choice.

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks for watching. I appreciate it.

[@ig33ku]

Alt R allows you to bring up the AMD Metrics Meter and see the watts used by their cards.

[@TheGameBench]

Yep, I know. You can see that in GPU-Z as well.

[@pccoldwar9160]

main issu is that via the software you only see on amd power draw gpu silicon and that drr5 bank are not display can how ever give nice indication if your underclock is effective ;) normally you can shave about 10 watts whit any significant lost in performance annd clock that drr5 that alone wooping 3-5 in some case scenario quite fun to play around whit those.;)

[@TheGameBench]

@@pccoldwar9160 Hmm... I'll have to look at GPU-Z again, I thought it gave you everything, just that it split it up. Anyways, that's exactly why I prefer the watt meter. The results are undeniable and accurate.

[@pccoldwar9160]

​@@TheGameBench i was taling about radeon software i should have mention it i do not know about gpu-z value if those show all sorry can't help you about that.i think over here at pcperspective did try to debunk a bit about power draw of rx 480 should be some what related whit strange home made test kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJuknaV9r610oas

[@Zentruth]

nice info on this. should i expect a bottleneck on the i7 4770 version of the optiplex 9020 with a gtx 1660 Super?

[@TheGameBench]

Nope. You can def run up to a 1080 without a problem. I'm going to have to run some tests with the 1080 Ti, but I don't see it being an issue either.

[@ThEuNbEaTeN1994]

Just got an 9020 with an i7 4790, 8gb of ram and a 1tb hdd for £170, added my gt 640 and it ran games pretty well compared to my old pc (amd athlon 4400+ or something) decided to look for a gpu and managed to find a gtx 1050 ti for only £75, hopefully it works with my stock psu

[@PaulLemars01]

Very nicely articulated. BTW what's the onscreen performance monitor software?

[@TheGameBench]

Thanks! For the overlay, I'm using Afterburner and Riva Tuner.

[@PaulLemars01]

@@TheGameBench Thanks for the information. Just an FYI and I don't know if I mentioned this before but I'm running an HP Z420 workstation that I bought off eBay for $194 inc shipping and tax. I know it's not part of the OptiPlex craze but it did come with a Xeon E5-1650V2 6 core, 16GB of memory, A 500GB SATA3 drive and a 600W power supply. All I had to do was slot in my 8GB RX580 and it works perfectly. You have to watch carefully on eBay but they can be found at this spec for $200 or less.

[@TheGameBench]

@@PaulLemars01 I have been keeping my eye on the Z's and I'm contemplating grabbing some. I know people are going crazy for these OptiPlex's now, but I think the Z will be their replacement as the next generation Opti's with 6th gen CPU's aren't worth the time. Something I'd like to go over in the future video. Even now I think they're a great alternative since there's no cutting needed to put in a bigger GPU, higher wattage power supplies with PCIe power. I've been looking at these and the Precision workstations for the same reason.

[@samwheatcroft7265]

Would a dell optiplex 7010 i5 3470, evga 500W and gtx 1650 super

[@gregoryberrycone]

crazy i didn't think anything more powerful than the 1650 would run off the stock psu. would you say that these more powerful cards running off the sata to pci power adapter would be safe for a 9020 with the stock 290w psu?

[@TheGameBench]

I found that the cards I tested with all ran fine of the SATA to PCIe adapter and the wire temps were perfectly reasonable... Even the 480. I don't think I would run a full fat 1070 off one, or a 580 for that matter. That being said, there are some garbage adapters out there that shouldn't be use at all. When I started doing this I had bought one that actually shorted out. I was lucky it didn't kill the GPU. Oh, and I should say that these aren't the best idea for slightly older cards like the 700 series from nVidia or 7000 series from AMD because they draw a TON of juice. The nVidia 10 series card are actually really efficient. That's why you see 1080's that are running off a single 8-pin.

[@gregoryberrycone]

@@TheGameBench good to know, ill probably end up throwing a 1060 6gb into a 9020. thank god gpu prices have fallen a bit since the bit coin mining boom

[@TheGameBench]

@@gregoryberrycone They really have. I usually get the 1060's for like $120 to $130. I hate to go over that, but I've seen a couple go for like $150. Here's a link to the adapter I've been using. Gone through a ton of these and they've been good so far. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075383P7T/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[@gregoryberrycone]

@@TheGameBench i actually ended up snagging a 1060 6gb and an optiplex with an i5 4570, 16gb of ram and a terabyte HDD for a really good price. i really can't express how helpful your vids were to me, i probably would have ended up with a really underpowered gpu otherwise. now i can play games like squad and rising storm 2 at max settings. thanks again

[@TheGameBench]

@@gregoryberrycone That's awesome! Glad it helped you out man!

[@Daniel.X.Nguyen]

Great video. May I ask what is the max length GPU that can fit into a 7010/9010 MT case? Would there be issues with hitting the SATA/ USB ports and/or wires near the end of the mobo? For instance, could a ASUS DUAL GTX 1660 EVO fit? Did you have to move any wires to fit any of the GPUs tested? Thanks.

[@TheGameBench]

Depends.... if you want to keep the HDD cage, it's possible to shoehorn cards up to 10 inches/254mm in length. Might have to go down to 9.5 inches/241mm to make it fit. If you remove the HDD cage, well, I can't think of a GPU too long to fit. I tested out a 1080 Ti FTW3 and it fit. So, the Asus Dual 1660 Evo is about 9.5 inches, so it will fit without removing the HDD cage. However, anything over about 8.5 inches will run into the SATA ports. At 9.5 inches, you might not have to worry about the USB3 port, but you will most likely block all of the SATA ports. I did a recent community post showing how to deal with that. It also has links to all the cables you'd need to deal with it.

[@Daniel.X.Nguyen]

@@TheGameBench Thanks - I don't see the community post showing the cables. Can you link it? I'd prefer not to remove the HDD cage, so I prefer to re-route all the cables/plugs around the SATA/USB ports, if possible.

[@TheGameBench]

@@Daniel.X.Nguyen Sorry for the slow response. Here's the post. kzbin.infoUgwYJptW7TCTUE7MY1x4AaABCQ

[@amroosama600]

Nice mix of computer and DIY knowledge👏. Thanks a lot. I may buy an optiplex 3060, i5 8500, would it be a good choice? And would the motherboard accept a 9th generation processor? Tried to search on any bios updates on Dell's website, but they mentioned nothing about that. Thanks again!

[@TheGameBench]

I wouldn't suggest the 3060. Sorry I'm late responding, but it's only got a 260 watt power supply, and it's not standard ATX. I wouldn't be nearly as simple to turn it into a gaming system.

[@amroosama600]

@@TheGameBench Thanks a lot for your responce. I was going to change the power supply anyway, Increase the ram, and add a graphics card. But it may in the end cost me more.

[@TheGameBench]

@@amroosama600 That's where I was at when I considered doing some similar work on them. If you do, you can use an SFX PSU in there. It will be kinda' jank, but it will fit. Also, look into flex ATX power supplies. They might drop right in, and might not, but the'll also fit.

[@amroosama600]

@@TheGameBench Thanks a lot for your help 👌

[@traphouseroomba1398]

I have a gtx 970 in mine, with a thermaltake 500w psu and 16gb of viper ram, works great.

[@mohamedgalal6533]

great video i need ask you some question why your optiplex front cover is black thx

[@mohamedgalal6533]

and from where can i get front black cover

[@TheGameBench]

I just removed it and painted it. Thought it makes them look a lot less dated.

[@DouglasThurston]

i have a 7020, and was going to purchase the gtx 1060 per your comments in the video. Can you provide the link for that graphics card and also a link for the cable to supply power? Thanks