Dell XPS 15 vs. Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme Comparison Smackdown

[@KentSpain85]

Lol, I just realized that I just watched the entire video.... I have no intention of buying either of them. But I love hearing Lisa talk tech and as always these videos are very informative. Thanks! :D

[@WitchVulgar]

@Salt & Pepper did it feel good tho?

[@scientist100]

😂😂😂

[@joeldiaz5857]

I totally agree. Not in the market to buy a laptop but I love hearing Lisa. She has a nice soothing voice. Additionally, her passion and dedication is evident and is inspiring. .

[@kriswillems217]

I always have to downsped the video to 0.75, otherwise I miss out on a lot of information. Is she really talking talk fast or are her videos sped up ?

[@Soupie62]

Yeah, they lost me when there was no Ethernet port - and no, a plugin adapter doesn't count. Of course, if the ethernet standard was updated to have a slimmer connector, an adapter dongle would be a reasonable option. But I don't see that happening.

[@deldarel]

My baby arrived today. I've been waiting for a month to get my X1E. Upgraded it with a 1tb sata ssd. It's an absolute monster and I already love it. I already tried some deep learning on it and it blazes trough them

[@sidharthmahotra]

I intend to do some deep learning on it too. How was your experience? Did fan make lot of noise during training models? And does it stay quiet otherwise or randomly keeps turning on as in thinkpad t470. And how was heat disdipation?

[@arr0gant1]

Awesome machine! Enjoy!!!

[@arr0gant1]

@@cnparlak f ya

[@ningmengvv]

Hey Deldarel, any issues so far? thanks

[@casperguo7177]

How has it hold up? I’m a data science junior looking for a new laptop and will definitely use it for some machine learning / NLP projects.

[@yakovbykov]

Thanks a lot. This is the test I've been waiting for a long time.

[@YR7A]

i wish my grandma was this tech savvy

[@gacha7968]

prival fang 😂😂🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿

[@stevebiju5628]

🤣

[@jonoborn5910]

Me tooo

[@akwaabab8504]

nevermind your grandmother. are you that tech savvy?

[@nullzero821]

thinkpad keyboard + xps 15 bezel = perfect laptop

[@woox200sx]

+ MacBook trackpad

[@harshbhasin4803]

@@woox200sx they should charge 3500+ usd for that lappy but should provide it

[@aight365]

Factss

[@atomicateeq8636]

Zenbook 15 is just that, also its 1100 for maxed upgrades

[@D0J0P]

Yeah, I don't know why other manufacturers aren't trying to copy Thinkpad keyboards.

[@mschwage]

Nice. Thanks for this review. I've been looking to replace my t430. Was going to go with Dell XPS but now that Lenovo has come out with this machine... Well I just can't give up the keyboard.

[@zes7215]

wrr

[@tamrix]

Pretty accurate and honest review. Honesty in reviews is underrated these days.

[@Portknocks]

I'm loving my X1E. Got the 4K i7 model with 8 gb of ram to bring it down to 1600 after tax (BF Sale) and then purchased 32 gb of ram and Samsung Pro 970 1tb and love this badboy. Use it for school and work. Keyboard has no competition.

[@agaskew]

Sweet

[@timothyandrewnielsen]

The keyboard's on Lenovo laptops are the best. Better than Apple. Better than everything I've ever used. Except against those old IBM keyboards but i digress.

[@raywei8472]

@@timothyandrewnielsen Lenovo came out a 25 year ThinkPad special edition with the IBM keyboards. Idk if they are still selling those

[@minhdoan3366]

Archie Ray bad back case, it is alu with black coasting, i have one and regret

[@Tigerex966]

do you still use the other ssd inside?

[@joshm8015]

I've had this XPS 9570 for about 6 months now and overall it has been very good. The biggest issue has been the thermals, as Lisa mentioned, but a repaste/undervolt takes care of this for the most part. The 4K screen is excellent with minimal back-light bleed, but the reds are indeed overblown - however you can tune them down via Intel Graphics Control Panel. Minimal/non-existent coil whine - Dell seems to have fixed this issue for the most part via BIOS updates. Battery life is surprisingly not bad - you can actually push 8-9 hrs or longer with a combination of the undervolt, Battery Saver mode, and even turning down the screen resolution to 1440p or 1080p in a pinch to squeeze out more battery life.

[@WilliamCarter489]

Lisa, absolutely love your reviews! Great straight-forward facts delivered in an entertaining manner. Your reviews are authoritative source for me - thanks!

[@zes7215]

wr

[@WanFahmyRedzuan]

Came back here after watching unboxing therapy... always come back to Lisa for more comprehensive technical stuff. Haha. Anyway you didn't compare about sound quality, did you?

[@ForeverCuteDog]

yeah me too!

[@m.showers1242]

Got the X1, 4K, 32GB, 1TB. Purchase selection based upon favorable experience with Lenovo Twist, keyboqrd, & I/O ports. Very pleased.

[@JitinMisra]

Do you have scaling issues on the 4K? People say windows doesn’t handle scaling well

[@AlecArmbruster]

Lisa is great at reviewing and speaking to you like you’re a friend, instead of an ad revenue customer. I’m getting my X1 Extreme today. Keep these coming, Lisa!

[@zeuszz8722]

hey lenovo just ran its 10% off make sure you get the discount! love mine so far. this keyboard is amazing!

[@sahilmukherjee7441]

Do share your experience, planning to buy it.

[@stevenbayig8045]

Hi Lisa, Great video here :) Can you make a review on the Thinkpad X1 2nd Gen that is to be released I guess July this year..??

[@davidm2364]

Outstanding no-BS review from someone who’s not afraid to get inside the machines. Thanks so much!

[@darbrown19]

I have Dell xps 9560 and there is no replacement battery. It is just over 2 years old and I can't get a replacement battery anywhere. If you want to buy a Dell laptop, keep this in mind. Dell has replacement parts for everything but the battery.

[@6re881]

just received my X1 I7 4k 512 ssd 16 gb, I absolutely love it. light and very powerful. The keyboard is great now i understand why so many people talk about the thinkpad keyboard. The 4k screen is fantastic, so glad i spent the extra cash on got it. The double ssd and ram slot is forward thinking when you get this laptop. It takes just 26 seconds to start up the pc, ligtroom photoshop traktor starts in just a seconds. The finsih of the laptop is really good. i would have like to have speakers with a little more bass but its ok. The trackpad is really soft so soft that you feel the dust on it sometime :-) overall it´s a good laptop not the cheapest but one of the highest standard.

[@MuhammadAhsan-hq2bc]

whats the battery life like on it?

[@suttongriffin8154]

Have tried moderate gaming on it?

[@6re881]

I don't play games, I use mostly Lightroom, Traktor and Photoshop. I must say Lightroom makes the fans spin frequently... @@suttongriffin8154

[@homes24]

How do you not have at least one mil subs yet. Your SmackDowns are always A+

[@hanli4977]

Seriously, people should go for the i5-8400H model. Companies earn extra profit through the i7 models. However consumers won't find out the difference in most applications. The i5 performs even better since the higher frequency.

[@jpcuve]

I did.... P1 is also a lot cheaper if you do not care about gaming

[@handquake]

Lenovo is showing that 64gig RAM (2x32) option as a 5-7 day shippable option. I remember You kina' mentioning it in the original review as possibly something that would never come to pass. Is interesting. :-)

[@davidetarozzo2564]

window central in one of his video his showing on his table 2x32GB card (i don`t remember the brand) upgradable for X1EX.. so i guess it`s finally on the market

[@zes7215]

wrr

[@OfferoC]

Great review thanks. This was my exact decision. I went with the X1 mostly because of the stupid dell nose cam. I think you forgot to talk about the X1’s face and fingerprint login capabilities. They are pretty cool.

[@porlando12]

Lisa is one of the most informed tech reviewers on KZbin!

[@tommasoascari2706]

this is the greatest tech reviewer I've ever seen, instant subscribe.

[@madeindra]

As a tech person, this is by far the most informative review video I have ever watched, I needed to know all these details, especially about the laptop if is upgradeable or not, thanks for sharing!

[@chronia13]

Sent my X1E back. Fantastic display, but the heat spiked often and opening anything caused the fans to whir like a jet engine. There has been some success with others via repasting and changing filter material. This trend of cramming top tier cpus and then throttling them is making us spend money on performance that never arrives in these thin laptops. If you’re going to get the X1E the i5 yields none of the aforementioned problems. The 8850 is what I had. Other than that, the keyboard is so good. Way better than these trash Mac keyboards

[@blackice214]

Yea I sent mine back too , the heat and battery were just abysmal

[@yuleihit]

i got 8850h too. I gave it a try for one week. In the first day the heat indeed made fans spinning a lot but after that unless gaming, it calmed down a lot during normal usage like watching youtube, browsing webpages and doing word editing.

[@justinbagdon5116]

That's good to know, I ended up with the 8750 and repasted with liquid metal, I think this configuration must be alot more stable as the fans do still spin up quite often but quickly cool the cpu or gpu and I haven't had concerning Temps. Generally around 80 c in intense tasks. (Edit: since my last post I also use throttlestop to undervolt my computer it now runs no hotter than 70c. )Also if you have the 8850 h I would recommend tp fan control and make a more aggressive fan profile at lower temps. These will completely solve any heat issues.

[@raywei8472]

Yeah, i7 in an ultrabook is a total waste and the fans will turn up to max even more often after a few more years. i5 is all you need

[@M3sutOzil]

will i5 slow the rendering process significantly?

[@darkmoon8683]

Please compair with xps 15 old 4k 2019 vs lenovo extreme x1 gen 2 2019

[@TimHPop776]

Excellent review! I am headed down the ThinkPad lane with this review over the XPS. Thank you.

[@agaskew]

Thank you Lisa (and whoever is pointing the camera - maybe show us one day). I've had the XPS 15 for several months and it's solid, following some tweaks I had to make. The X1 Extreme looks like a great option too.

[@alexc7789]

I have an xps in the mail. What tweaks did you make?

[@RedRyz3n]

Wait for the New XPS 15 with the camera on top whenever they release it.

[@gaia3912]

Now they did :)

[@keepingitkresky4412]

Great video!. I'm glad I got the 9570. After two months of using it I really enjoy it. Thankfully I haven't had any issues with quality. Plus I got it for an awesome price. $1622.00 after taxes. 4K display, 16gb ram, and a 512 SSD. So yeah, definitely no regrets over here.

[@grizius4123]

I would avoid dell tbh, qc/bsod issues and overheating too much

[@joellandy]

Thank you, Lisa. I like the way you wrapped up with comparisons at the end of the video. Now I have to decide and to also decide if I want these computers or their related mobile workstation choices. That would be a good video to contrast and compare.

[@arda_]

I needed to decide between them and as an old T480s owner I had my heart on the X1E but the small battery, horrible Full HD Display and worse price/performance pushed me to buy the XPS 15. Everyone compares 4K vs 4k on these displays but most people buy the Full HD Display so I would say comparing them is also really important.

[@pete3198]

Unfortunately the "base level" Lenovo displays tend to be absolutely horrifyingly bad. If you upgrade to the premium display options I've found they are quite nice, but the entry level ones are really, really bad. Often crappy TN panels, and even when they are IPS panels they are low res and often have poor contrast and terrible colour accuracy. I have definitely found Dell to be more consistent on the Display side. Their top tier displays are mindblowing good, but even their base displays tend to look decent.

[@arda_]

@@pete3198 I totally agree! My t480s had the 1440p display and I was quite pleased with it. As far as I know the Full HD panel on the xps 15 is a pretty expensive panel, Frank Azor(head of xps) mentioned it on twitter. It is a color accurate ,400 nit panel whereas the industry standard is still 300nits. It has worse performance when it comes to response times but no one is buying the xps to game on it.

[@andyhui4405]

Very detailed comparison. Like the data-visualisation very much! Really point out the spec comparison in a high level of readability. Good work!

[@kylecooper139]

Hey guys super excited tonight I’m installing the RAM and SSD kits to my X1 and finally unboxing it. My X1 Extreme Gen 2 (Total Price $2300 CAD, $1770 US) UHD Screen I7-9750H 256 SSD Stock 1 TB SSD 970 EVO Samsung $200 8gb Ram Stock 32gb Ram by Samsung $200 CAD Fingerprint Backlight Win Pro. 1 Year Warranty. I bought Black Friday

[@afoakuclinton7810]

How is the performance

[@FredrikLindee]

This is awesome! Can we have an updated version since they both have released upgrades, plz :) :) :)

[@hohohoitsme]

One major difference is that a Thinkpad simply works. And if something should happen, there'll be great support. And on top of that tens of thousands of Thinkpad lovers worldwide who like to help each other out in different forums. Dell computers are the exact opposite. You briefly touched upon this in your review, but it is THE MOST important issue for us professional users! Dell computers are unstable, they break, and when that happens there'll be ZERO help. Costumer support is abysmal. No help from the company, and you'll also have a hard time finding people online with any love towards their Dells. You're basically on your own with a deficient product. It's incredible if you can get a Thinkpad for the same price as a Dell, because the most important aspects of it (reliability and support) are SO MUCH better. It should be double the price if the specs are the same.

[@xXWillyxWonkaXx]

I was sooooo waiting for this comparison to happen!

[@PandaBearShenyu]

X1 Extreme is the way to go for me. I like how the thinkpad is built like a rugged tool, and the keyboard, man, I can't live without that keyboard. I have the 2018 X1 Carbon and thinkpads are those laptops where you feel like they start accumulating some scratches and dents. We're getting the X1 Extreme soon too, and the double nvme slot is big since it makes upgrading storage easy as opposed to needing to replace the whole thing with a more expensive ssd.

[@gigel99324]

How's the extreme going?

[@veipuniilana1842]

It feels nice to watch your video early

[@WitchVulgar]

Oh yeah yeah

[@ylchongs]

Great work with spec listed side by side for better comparison. Please put vital info on screen as this help too, sometimes Lisa talk too fast. Not in long sentences,just short point. Enjoy your videos. Thanks.

[@TheTurtale]

Really love the straight forward nature of your videos. It would really help me if I had a little bit of text on screen for pricing and specs to help remember what I'm working against. Just my 2 cents :)

[@7Write4This9Heart7]

There were specs up there, though? Toward the beginning, anyway.

[@TJPactronix]

My UHD X1 arrives today, really excited.

[@TJPactronix]

Day 3. This is an wonderful all rounder machine.

[@daauggy]

Does the fans get loud?

[@nightowl1654]

How was it?????

[@ts9971]

I have the Thinkpad P1, the build is insanely amazing. The keyboard and screen are fantastic.

[@hassanasudemade1659]

wow, I completed the review. Thanks it's really eye opening

[@TechLeatherCraft]

SWEET! Totally was deciding between these two.

[@JSGilbert]

The Lenovo has a second Thunderbolt port, which should not be looked at lightly. Also, in real world testing the Dell suffers a ton from thermal throttling. Although both companies seem to use really cheap thermal grease and significant speed/ heat improvement can be made by replacing the grease with Arctic Silver or some other quality thermal paste. Other than that, both machines are extremely capable and comparable. I tend to think that Dell May have better support, but I have actually heard of some issues with Dell as of late. And yes, these are the best reviews on the internet!

[@sp00008]

Will you be doing a review on ThinkPad X1 Extreme (2nd Gen) i9-9880H with vPro?

[@Herower]

XPSs are always having issues. At the company where I'm working at we have 5 XPSs - only the xps 15 didn't do any problem. all the smaller ones (i think 13? 14?) had to change hdd/motherboard / bad thermals, etc. X1 had issues of his own with really bad drivers, but now it's great. Go with the x1, believe me you'll have a better luck.

[@pete3198]

I've seen a ton of issues with Thinkpads in the past as well. Though I must admit that my experinces with the X1 models has been much better then with older and lower spec Thinkpad models.

[@suhailcouto1832]

As a student who likes to game sometimes I opted for the dell. Lenovo is very respected and the ThinkPad looks really cool, the only thing that turned be away was the fn and ctrl key switch (which you can switch in bios but I’m still picky), the lack of media keys, and the battery life. I need good battery life and get more than a day’s work on the dell. I got the 512gb ssd, 16gb ram fhd model for $1400 while the Lenovo (then) was around $2300 for same spec. However if you want the ThinkPad, I still believe it’s on discount for around $1600

[@cokamaksimovic]

Hey Lisa, thanks heaps for your videos. No bs, just pure tech talk. Cheers from straya :)

[@DaKussh]

"Business laptops" yes, I bought my X1 extreme with i7 with the sole purpose of installing Manjaro i3 and playing Dwarf Fortress

[@psglgdame6667]

How long battery life on i3 ( browsing and coding) ?

[@jamsandkookie8569]

Is it decent for gaming? I need a laptop solely for digital art and a little bit of gaming ( like first person shooter). So art is first priority, gaming second.

[@lilgrape]

i know you already did the xps 15 vs spectre x360 but how well does the gemcut version of the spectre do against the xps 15? Thanks

[@brents2500]

Would love to see an updated T14 ThinkPad vs XPS review.

[@TheReal_ist]

I never thought I'd say it but BATTERY Life and a Lenovo Keyboard are my big points for a laptop. I guess going to a mech keyboard on my desktop broke me. Cause I used to be fine with crappy keyboards but not anymore. Which honestly sucks cause so many options are now out the door because of that. But o well right.

[@suttongriffin8154]

TheReal_ist I guess that means your just like me! Can’t decide between the two! Haha

[@edgjj]

I’m looking for a MacBook Pro alternative for a work station. I have been facing major heating and fan issues with my MacBook Pro 13 (2017). I’m thinking of getting a windows laptop with better spec rather than pay premium for this generation of Macbook that is not as reliable as in the past. What would you recommend?

[@tasneemtabassumscrat]

Hey Lisa...Huge fan of your vids. informative and quirky each time!...Can you do one on X1 extreme and Razer Blade 15?

[@eduardomatias3011]

Dell should bring back the keyboard they used on the XPS 13 2013/2014 models.

[@Fastfwd01]

I knew that Lisa was one of the very few dissenters that the XPS 15 is the best choice of machine, but I didn't listen and I got one and it has been a major headache. It's beautiful, the 4k screen is amazing, etc. but it's been trouble the entire time I've had it. Critical thermal shutdowns started within one month and it ended up getting a refurbished motherboard replacement which I didn't see coming as the onsite fix. I knew about the repasting and undervolting, but I thought those guys must be gamers. Nope. Mine literally dried up and started shutting down withing one month and it made me believe something more serious must be wrong with it and I was timid about breaking it open and voiding the warranty. Anyway, it's still crashing and I see in her reviews that they found this to be common? Graphics related? I've been stressed that the motherboard they gave me was worn out or what IDK. I'm trying to give it the cleanest Windows reinstall possible to see if there is hope. A reinstall from inside Windows didn't fully do the trick. It passes most hardware tests though. It just isn't fully stable and it's embarrassing to be out in public and have the high dollar Dell blue screen. I was previously a desktop technician for several years and it makes me look like an idiot that deserved to lose my job (it was political to put it mildly) because this thing is so unstable. I worked on a video of a trip recently and it refused to encode it - crashing within minutes. So, this isn't working. I wanted something to edit in Lightroom with. I'm just a hobbyist photographer, but I shoot a full frame Nikon D750 in Adobe RGB (mostly just because why not) and it was silly to do more than perform backups on my old cheap laptop. As stated I want something with some power to edit video. Even cellphone video from my Samsung S8 is 4k and it takes some muscle to push it around even if only throwing clips on the timeline with simple cuts between them. I'm not much of a 'gamer' but I do play some Xbox Forza racing and I've frankly enjoyed just having the ability to whip out a Xbox controller and start playing some Forza wherever I am on the otherwise sexy little thin and light laptop. I considered jumping over to one of the 'gaming' laptops. Razor, Aero, etc. but there are compromises there with either build quality or shortfalls otherwise with the screens, no sd card reader, etc. I'm still considering it. The beefier video cards would be the advantage, but I'm not sure how much impact to Davinci Resolve they would actually have. Just playing higher frame rates of Forza wouldn't be a very good reason to choose one. I've even given thought to moving to Apple, but wow are they expensive and it frankly scares me that you can't replace any components. I'm still fairly new to SSD, but as I gather they do wear out just like a mechanical hard drive for example. It's not even as much the factor of being stuck with what you bought for capacity as the overall longevity of the machine seeming compromised (without whatever expense involved to have it serviced I presume) and for that kind of money? I would have to buy new copies of Lightroom and probably want Final Cut Pro too so there's another $500 at least. I might even consider and older model of Macbook Pro, but even those are as expensive as any cutting edge spec Windows machine and they weren't cutting edge when they were new. I, however, fully support the Apple company philosophy of protecting their customers privacy. I'm sure there is question how much they actually do so, but for me personally it almost makes the expense worth it to vote with my dollars to support them and move away from Microsoft, Google, etc. If I suffer a bit of performance loss to a more cutting edge Windows machine it's not like I'm doing this 40 hours a week anyway. It's not just about being one of the cool kids with a Mac at the cafe for me. I appreciate their stance on the privacy of their customers being important to them. I'm open to suggestions. Anything that I haven't considered that is a serious competitor on the Windows side? Like is this Levono the most serious competitor? Lightroom is probably #1 - so, a great screen and as close to Adobe RGB as possible would be nice, but if it's more color accurate maybe that outweighs ultimate coverage. Video editing #2 and it needs to push simple 4k edits - so, probably any 8th gen i7 can handle it, but it can't thermal shutdown over it. Gaming would be #3 and frankly it's not a deal breaker if it can't run Forza. That's just a super cool party trick imo.

[@icywinterwind3219]

AdobeRGB is a trashcan.

[@timthesheriff]

Great review! I’d love to see you compare the Lenovo X1 with an HP ZBook Studio (latest gen). It seems to be competing directly with the Dell XPS 15, Lenovo X1, and 15” MacBook Pro.

[@lashram32]

Thank you so much for such an articulate video. I watched this a bout a week ago and was able to make my choice which was hinging to one direction and ... well, your honesty and fair review actually pushed me to the other. Thank you I love your channel (and I'm typing this on my new laptop.)

[@afoakuclinton7810]

Which did u get

[@lashram32]

@@afoakuclinton7810 I ended up ordering an XPS 15, i5 8g of ram. I updated the wifi card myself. I was concerned only ordering 8g of ram but I can always upgrade, I don't think I will need to. when I game on it I use moonlight and stream games off of my main Pc from home. I used the Dell outlet and purchased it "as new" for about 1/3rd off the main website. I picked the 1080 screen for battery life (and I honestly don't know why you would need a higher resolution screen on a 15 inch monitor.) The battery easily doubles what my partners 2019 mac book pro gets. Not the absolute best but for a daily work machine it was a great purchase for us.

[@dogeofvenice5624]

Fantastic tech review. how could I just find out this channel?

[@SonusGenerator]

Interesting to see the evolution of those lines, while i am researching!

[@brahsumatra]

The ThinkPad T480 is my daily driver still DELL has definitely upped their game in the past couple of years.

[@nightowl1654]

Should i buy a T480p?

[@minhdoan3366]

Lisa do you know the thinkpad x1 base is coasting with paint? It will easily have scratch and looks terible, i will never buy thinkpad again, miss the magie case of the T550 so much!

[@Mamo878]

Definitely agree about Thinkpad vs. XPS stability. Dells are more troublesome for sure when it comes to driver/hardware stability.

[@pete3198]

That's a pretty big call - coming from somebody who has been in the IT suppport industry for about 10 years now. Lenovo have had some SERIOUS driver / firmware / BIOS stability issues since about as far back as I can remember. Not saying that Dell haven't, but they aren't alone in it.

[@pete3198]

@Kriti Shah Based on what? You owned one ThinkPad and it never have you trouble?

[@skepticalmechanic]

Think pad keyboards are indeed superb! 👍🏻 came to work one day and my laptop had been replaced... with a dell... used it for 3 days and told my boss I get my think pad back or I quit! He said no... we’re moving on... two weeks later I had a new job...

[@HeylMarketing]

I don't think I've ever been on a laptop for 7+ hours straight on battery. The wifi and build quality (and thermal) make the Thinkpad my choice frankly. Just heard too many issues with the XPS (even though my wife and Mum both have Dells: an Inspiron for my wife, Vostro for Mum). Thanks Lisa!

[@hercion]

The moment I saw the Dell keyboard with those stupid tiny cursor keys, the ThinkPad had won no matter what.

[@timothyandrewnielsen]

Yep. Companies trying to make keyboards so small and petite are killing me. You use the keyboard the most on every computer you will ever own. It needs to be good!

[@saunupe1911]

I would gladly take a donation of either one of them once you are done review😁

[@nateportney672]

You don't prefer longer battery life, brighter screen, and smaller bezels for lower price over thinkpad?

[@hercion]

@@nateportney672 all this is secondary to efficient typing and code navigation. If tiny cursor keys cause frequent miss-placements, a better screen or a longer lasting battery do not help to ease the frustration. The thing is: they have keyboards that are good ( e.g. on Dell precision M4800) . But for no rational reasons they instead choose to use crappy Apple style keyboards . I am afraid that this is a design driven decision because some marketing or management guys falsely believe rust you have to look like an Apple notebook to sell more..

[@nateportney672]

@@hercion may u explain why u need a high gpu gaming laptop to do coding? Ur 100% right thinkpad keyboard is superior, but xps 15 is fine.

[@mingyewu8848]

I had an XPS 15 9570 and returned it, now I am have an x1 extreme. X1 has much better quality.

[@clarencegui4402]

does your x1e have coil whine? Mine has a loud coil whine, seriously annoying me

[@mingyewu8848]

Yes, but not much, and it depends on your power setting.

[@nightowl1654]

@@mingyewu8848 whats your power setting?

[@mingyewu8848]

NightOwl16 I turned all the settings, such as speedstep, enabled.

[@GG-ou2qw]

thank you madam help me to choose which one is better

[@kaffeetscherl]

My Dell XPS 15 is arriving tomorrow and I'm really looking forward to it. Dell just had a sweet deal and I got it for ~1500€ (FHD, i7-8750H, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD) so it's at least 500€ cheaper then a X1E with similar specs. Although the Lenovo might be a bit higher quality, the price difference is just too big. I also use a company supplied Latitude 5580 and my partner has a XPS 13 9370 and both of them have zero issues. Subjectively speaking, the Dell seems to be the better choice. edit: It arrived! Unfortunately one fan is rattling a bit. I'm gonna contact support. I hope they send a service technician to fix it. Besides that, everything works great. Installing Ubuntu was a bit of a hassle, but that's hardly Dell's fault.

[@suttongriffin8154]

How is your dell?

[@AritraSarkar365]

YAY! been waiting for this for so long!

[@Kerrathul]

Hi Lisa. The BIOS on the ThinkPad is not really very good if you are a power user. Version 1.13 bricked if you adjusted the thunderbolt settings, version 1.15 bricked if you adjusted the dedicated graphics settings and 1.17 bricks if you turn the onboard sound off. Good review though. I have the P1 sibling to the X1 Extreme.

[@BSPBuilder]

Are you able to install Linux on your P1 without bricking it?

[@Kerrathul]

BSPBuilder yes. In running fedora 29 Workstation. Everything worked out of the box, including sleep, after installing nvidia drivers

[@BSPBuilder]

@@Kerrathul Thanks!

[@BaconSenpai]

do you even know what the word "bricked" means? all of these are solved by removing CMOS battery

[@Kerrathul]

Bacon nope. Lenovo laptops have a cmos reset button and I tried removing the battery as well. Just look at the sticky threads on /r/thinkpad

[@theNikijspictures]

Dell XPS unfortunately does not support 180 degree folding of display. No one actually talks about it, so was a bit disappointing after buying it. For such a price, this feature should be there. Otherwise, superb laptop and as mentioned - much more price options, so many people are able to afford this type of laptop. X1 is too pricey.

[@jonoborn5910]

Buy second thinkpad. Much cheaper.

[@zichaowang8617]

I bought both and returned xps15 in the end. Why? x1 has a way better keyboard, top camera, better thermal.

[@zichaowang8617]

@Tina Mathur thanks, especially i got it at 40% off

[@kimmy_sander]

I have to like for the Zbrush and Blender consideration. I do 3D work for a living so great to have that considered in your videos too!

[@AritraSarkar365]

Hey lisa! Next smack-down video: XPS 15 vs X1 extreme vs Razer Blade 15, please!

[@aight365]

Do you need the RBG lights or the sd card...

[@bobbyv3]

X1 Extreme vs the P1, and go! :D

[@jpage5303]

X1 if just doing gaming, photoshop, browsing, some cad work. P1 perfect for doing cad work and some light gaming.

[@alvarohernandezEVO]

Thank you for the fun and informative videos! Can you Review the ASUS Q536FD? there's no serious reviews of this machine in KZbin

[@nic_ccc3366]

Dell is probably the better bang for buck overall but I like the Thinkpad better

[@timothyandrewnielsen]

Can't go wrong with Thinkpad support and quality. They have tanked a bit since the T400 series but they're still well made laptops with great keyboards. That touch point is really nice. I prefer it over trackpad.

[@pete3198]

@@timothyandrewnielsen I'll have to agree to disagree with you on support. Lenovo support is typically horrendously bad. Up there with HP as some of the worst customer support I've ever dealt with in the industry. Far as products go, the X1 Carbons and X1 Yogas seem to have exceptionally good quality control. The other Thinkpad models in my experience have been a bit hit-and-miss.

[@timothyandrewnielsen]

@@pete3198You have a point about support. They used* to be very good however I have had a couple issues with getting them to replace faulty screens lately. I had to seriously complain to a manager to get them to do it. They tried hard not to do the repair. It wasn't always the case... Still... the keyboard positives outweigh the bad here. The trackpoint is a seriously wonderful little device that no other laptops have. I'd still buy lenovo (and do for my company) over HP/Dell. If lenovo keeps cutting corners, they could lose my business. Again, they're still #1 for me.

[@pete3198]

@@timothyandrewnielsen I've been dealing with them for about the past maybe 7 years, and I've had consistently poor service from them throughout. Their support technicians are generally pretty weak and often force you to run through trivial and pointless troubleshooting steps even after you've told them you have already done it... Trying to get any kind of quote for an out of warranty repair is a nightmare. I once had to chace Lenovo for TWO MONTHS for a quote for a motherboard replacement on an out of warranty model - and it's out of warranty, meaning they are actually making money from this. They still took forever. You often spend forever sitting on the phone on hold. The last ticket I raised with them was just before the Christmas holidays - I told them the customer was not in on the specific day, but would be back after the holidays. I even gave them an exact date that the customer would be returning and would be available to run through fruther troubleshooting steps. They closed the support ticket on me without my authority, without the issue being resolved, on the basis that they refused to wait two weeks for the customer to return from Chrismas holidays. I've never seen somebody do that in my 10+ years working in the IT support industry. One customer of mine had an on-site support agreement, and had a clause in their agreement stating that all repairs had to be done by Lenovo or warranty would be voided. Despite the agreement Lenovo still tried to avoid sending a tech out almost every time we called, instead trying to insist on sending out the part and having us replace it ourselves. When the technicians finally do agree to come out, they often take days. When it comes to Lenovo machines reliabliity is pretty much your last line of defense - because if you EVER get put in a situation where you have to actually call their support line, god help you.

[@allansh828]

which one has less coil whine? I am sure never gonna buy another XPS ever.

[@mrzazzaable]

Don't the keyboard is the absolute worst. They made is smaller than my xps 13 from 2016 and the fans grind all day.

[@clarencegui4402]

unfortunately, my Thinkpad x1e has coil whine and it's loud and annoying me sometimes. Looks like every powerful windows laptop has loud coil whine...

[@allansh828]

@@clarencegui4402 How's Alienware?

[@blackice214]

They have the same coil whine I had both

[@pete3198]

@@allansh828 They are fine if you never have to carry it around, or walk into a corporate environment.

[@tehsoul42]

I'll take the Thinkpad any day of the week. After using Thinkpads since I graduated, I got a Dell XPS 13 a few years ago. Build quality was subpar for the price, and it had a TERRIBLE case of coil whine that I couldn't get over. Had several months of back and forth with Dell's customer support where they promised a fix (yes yes there is a bios update coming, wait a few weeks!). Ended up returning it which they initially wouldn't allow (had to write a formal complaint letter to their HQ and call several times to follow up). Worst customer experience ever and of course YMMV, but I will never buy an XPS again... Currently interested in the X1E but might wait a bit for a refresh (not in a hurry)

[@tobiasf4782]

You guys please listen to me don't buy an XPS 15 9570. Just go on reddit or Google and search for - XPS 15 BSOD and Sound problems, Sound latency issues. Or search crackling sound issues. I've got an XPS 15 and had and still have a lot of problems with it. Dell support knows about the problems but nobody is doing something to fix it. It's all about the crappy software. It's a shame :(.

[@kerihilton5158]

i have those crackling sound issues too, but i love everything else about the laptop so im using a bluetooth speaker for now, until they decide to fix it i guess!

[@tobiasf4782]

@@kerihilton5158 I have a lot of problems with drivers and other Dell software unfortunately :/

[@toinesm]

@@kerihilton5158 I'm having the same issues with my XPS 15 and it even continues the crackling sound when using bluetooth speakers or headphones. Quite annoying I must say.

I've been suffering these almost half a year now and Dell hasn't even admitted that there's a problem. Maybe we should start making pressure on social media so tech KZbinrs and people in general become aware of how Dell treats its costumers and how they put little to no attention to quality control. You're paying a premium to get worse hardware and software than a cheap laptop. The price can only be justified by the specs, but when you actually own one you realise how overpriced it is...

[@ameft]

FYI I have the 9570 from a couple of months and I have no issues. I just doesn't update to Win10 1809, but I don't want to force it. There sure are problems with some devices but I got lucky or else..

[@BriefNerdOriginal]

Since when Dell's driver updates literally fried my XPS 15, I came back to my old love-hate relationship with Lenovo, that at least knows how not to screw up things too much. BTW, HIMO the new X1 series presented at CES seems fantastic.

[@RizwanAli-vl1zv]

i bought mine lenovo x1 extreme 4k i7 8850h 32gb 1050ti 1 tb pci nvme opal 2.0 m.2 for $2049 usd with tax during christmas. battery life is not great but its not a big deal it charges pretty fast.

[@jessejohnson5059]

pounds right?

[@RizwanAli-vl1zv]

usd

[@jpdrsn33]

good price. That's over $4k AUD.

[@OfferoC]

Damn that’s an amazing price. It must have gone up after Christmas.

[@RizwanAli-vl1zv]

Chris K yup it was only for few hours took advantage of it

[@GeonQuuin]

Killer card in my XPS 15 was dropping connection fairly often. Didn't like it at all. I changed it to an Intel card and it stopped having the issue.

[@kerihilton5158]

would you mind me asking exactly which card you bought? ive been thinking id like to replace my killer card as well

[@AusMaw]

I love your reviews! Great job. I did have one question... I have read that some of these ultra thins can actually take a USB-C plug into the USB-C port up to 100 watts should you not have your power supply with you or need some extra power handy through a USB wall adapter. I think I read you can definitely do this with the Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme. Can you do that with the Dell? Can you verify that with either laptop???

[@mdrahman6732]

I read an article saying that you can do that with the Dell as long as you have a 60w(or was it 75w?) power adapter for type c pd.

[@joellouisfire]

In the past month I had to send my XPS 15 to repair twice. I keep getting an issue with the display after I shut down the computer, it won't turn back on. Thankfully Dell's support is fantastic, although it's hurting my trust towards my laptop. This shouldn't be happening for the price you pay and as someone who uses it professionally, I need the computer working reliably 24/7. Makes me wonder if I should've gone with another laptop, although from what I see now a days, every laptop manufacturer has issues with quality control. With that said, I think it's important going with a brand that has great technical support, so you're not totally screwed. I'm coming from a Macbook Pro user for many years, so the transition hasn't been smooth at all unfortunately, but I'm not buying another Apple computer anytime soon. I can't justify paying so much for them, especially these days when their slower performance, lack of ports and expandability doesn't suit my needs. Giant rant aside, I do have my doubts. I actually have 5 days to exchange my laptop through Amazon. Should've I gone with another laptop in your opinion?

[@ImKevin]

Sincere question, do you regret buying the XPS 15? I hear so many negative reviews. . .

[@joellouisfire]

@@ImKevin In a way I do regret it, but I haven't spent enough time fully using it to know for sure. It broke on me the second week of me owning it and it broke down again only 2 days after I got it back from repair. Then again, I don't know any other laptop that truly compares to it for my needs (battery life, 4k color accurate screen, sd card, fast video rendering, build quality, etc) so I feel like I'm stuck with it until they can repair it 100%. I'm sure once it's working correctly, I will feel great with it. It's just not a good first impression and experience. Kinda ruined my "new gear" vibe really. My case could be rare bc it had to do with something faulty in the display, just sucks this is happening.

[@udofroelich12]

The spectre x360 15 with 1050ti / hexacore would have fitted great in this comparison. Any reason why no reviewer touches that machine?

[@СергейКараваев-ф3ы]

Thank you for your review! Excellent as always!

[@hfawki]

Hi Lisa, As an Expert and one of the professional reviewers, I would appreciate sharing your view with us on What do you think is the better option when it comes to reliability and performance. Is it Dell XPS New 15 2020 or Lenovo X1 Extreme G3. Thank you in advance

[@nerdiloo9863]

What about the weight of them? I can't compromise on keyboard comfort so it would be Thinkpad between the two.

[@yinuozhou1149]

I really do prefer a better and brighter screen compared to X1E’s 300 nits one. And I do need a larger battery to have longer outdoor time. I didn’t know much about dell’s advantage until now, kinda wanna switch to dell thb

[@peacefulman4594]

Thanks for the review mam. Gonna get the extreme

[@burnin8orable]

funny, I was just debating between these two laptops myself before watching this video.

[@agaskew]

Which did you choose?

[@brahsumatra]

David Chidester For Windows LapTops ThinkPads are the way to go, even refurbished models.

[@burnin8orable]

@@brahsumatra Well actually I was going to install Linux on it as that's my preferred OS.

[@pete3198]

@@brahsumatra It really depends on what you are looking for. These are both exceptional designs, you really can't go wrong with either. Personally I went with Lenovo for my convertibles (370 Yoga) because Lenovo have a better stylus and hinge designs, but went with an XPS 15 (i9 / 32GB ram / 1TB SSD) for my personal workhorse because I love the design, and the display and performance are both mindblowing. The biggest issue with Lenovo is tha their customer service is really poor. As somebody who has worked in IT support roles for around 10 years now, I've had consistently poor experiences dealing with Lenovo support regardless of whether it is for corporate or personal products. Dell support (both personal and corporate) on the other hand is without question the absolute best there is. As far as reliability goes, they are pretty roughly on par. As far as design I'd rate them pretty much equal, with the Lenovos having the edge in ergonimics / usability and the Dell generally having the advantage in appearance and style. Both are really great products/

[@SuperMelon2008]

The similarities between Lisa and the Minion on the t-shirt is remarkable. :P Love the video anyway :)

[@reganross3608]

The most dependable reviews on youtube

[@zes7215]

wrr

[@HomeAutomationX]

Dell is a great option for the price

[@MisterVonnels]

I'm looking at the XPS 15, specifically the i7, 16gb ram, 512gb SSD, 4k uhd version. It's $1799 on B&H (about £1360) and I assume customs and fees for international shipping would be a couple hundred dollars on top. ... This still works out cheaper than buying it locally here in Northern Ireland, here I find it for £1900 ($2400-/+) at the cheapest and I do not want to pay that much. Basically I'm wondering if it would be better to buy it from B&H or is there something obvious I'm missing, or something risky with this idea.

[@homoXhominiXlupus]

A dell xps look , with the thinkpad keyboard layout , with numberkeypad and removable battery would be the perfect laptop.