Delonghi Magnifica Start: Fully Automatic Coffee Machine - Quick Review and Test

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Check out the Magnifica Start on Amazon if you want: geni.us/MagnificaStart (affiliate link)

[@mansaasha1372]

Thank you, I just bought one of those coffee machines yesterday and your video really helped me to get started.

[@AverageJane222]

Just purchased this machine on Amazon's Black Friday Sale - YAY!!!!

[@LeahToma]

How much?

[@AverageJane222]

I really want to buy this machine because of your review. I was going to buy a dedica and Fellow Ode 2 grinder - but I would just rather spend less money on a machine that does a lovely job and is easy for the whole family to use. It's a no brainer really.

[@wildwood143]

I have the Magnifica and absolutely love it! It is the best investment I ever made with an appliance. We enjoy Latte’s made specifically to order and over time we have found it to yield saving money with no trips to the local coffee bar.

[@lentsoaneletjatji9680]

Dude after making this video 😳😳😳💪💪💪

[@DaporotiYat]

I have the magnifica evo at my very tiny cafe. It is great machine 😍. Honestly I need another since people are lining up for their coffee 😅. Anyway.. Thank You for your reviews.. Very helpful indeed.

[@nsdnight]

Thanks for nice review!

[@belizarius_997]

Lovely Sunday afternoon, a glass of affogato and a quick review of another great machine. Thanks, Tom!

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Glad you enjoyed it! Have a good Sunday!

[@ninoslavmarinkovic395]

Hi, what are the differences between magnifica evo and magnifica start, and which one would you choose?

[@irmetov]

How does it compare against Dinamica Plus in terms of espresso strength and frothing? Is Dinamica Plus worth 2x Magnifica Start?

[@aeonjoey3d]

Trying to figure out what the difference between the START and the EVO is, they seem identical minus some asthetic differences... the EVO has just two buttons more, an 'iced coffee' button and the 'My Latte' button. EVO owners know we can use the my latte button and the bypass setting to get a cup of frothed milk for hot cocoa, so without that button you might have to waste a puck to get the same from teh START, but Delonghi on their website show it capable of making an entire cup of foam by itself (in their marketing shots) so I'm confused. The iced drink setting on the EVO is basically the 'coffee' button, i don't know what it actually does differently, but it doesn't matter because you can't get any cup bigger than a mug under it.

[@thatScotland]

Great video

[@elepaniko]

Hi, thanks for the great video! Can you share your grind size?

[@LoganScottY]

I don't understand why these companies have yet to make a fully automatic machine that has the kind of automatic frothing you get on the barista touch impress. I find it a lot more convenient placing a jug of milk on a temp sensor and giving it a quick rinse than dealing with a large container of milk that has to be thoroughly cleaned.

[@Myspicyonion]

They make that kind it's just a different version

[@LoganScottY]

@@Myspicyonion whats it called?

[@stevo091]

De'Longhi Eletta

[@SamPattonMusic]

Bought my Touch Impress for that reason and the fact that it produces real espresso.

[@LoganScottY]

@@stevo091 That doesnt use a milk jug or a jug frothing sensor.

[@MySpaceHandle]

Does it have double boiler like other models? And what is the temperature of milk in latte☕?

[@tylernelson8094]

Great review! What is your favorite fully automatic machine in this price range?

[@markburns84]

Hi Tom, off subject, but could you potentially review the new Ninja Luxe espresso machine? The device seems at least to be very interesting in regards to all it's trying to achieve, and at a price that's lower than pretty much all its mainstream rivals. PID, inbuilt scale, auto frothing etc.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Soon, soon... :)

[@tomerktzv]

Hey! First, thanks for this amazing review. I was wondering, is there a way of making double espresso using this machine? Thank you!

[@thehelengoy]

Hi Tom! I’ve been watching your reviews and it’s helped me make a decision on which machine to buy. I ended up getting this one the Magnifica Start to make milk drinks. I wanted to get the Evo but it was sold out during Black Friday deals. My machine arrives tomorrow and I’m so excited. My only concern - is the Start comparable to Evo? I do not want to feel like I settled by getting the Start - I saw a comment here or there about it’s build not being as great as the Evo.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

They're really the same, just a slightly different look on the Start. Have fun!

[@OnthLvRoad]

Hi Tom, can you please tell me which one is better between this one and the magnifica evo please ? If you can tell some pro and con it would be very nice of you. Thanks

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

They are essentially the same. The Magnifica Plus on the other hand is better.

[@thegreatskywalker]

Since you mentioned about puck weight in the last video. I was wondering about the puck weight this machine produces and if it can make bigger pucks in the X2 mode.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Nope, the 2x button just doubles the water volume, not the puck size. I checked and double checked :(

[@thegreatskywalker]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner what is the puck weight?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

@@thegreatskywalker Max 12 grams.

[@thegreatskywalker]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner thank you 😊

[@vic4092]

​@@TomsCoffeeCorner Hi. I have the Magnifica Start 220.21B and on 3rd strength I measured 13g. Mine also has the doppio+ option and I'm getting 14g on that. I put the grinder on 3rd finest level and haven't changed the length of extraction, it does 38-40g out. I suppose I should make it shorter, maybe 35g out? The espresso is bitter and extraction time is around 10s each time, measured from the first drop, not sure if I should rather measure from when I hear the sound, after preinfusion. I'm not sure how to make the extraction time 20s, since it already does 40g out.

[@khijoo12]

Hi Tom, your videos have got me into manual Espressos. Got a Dedica, got a K6, got normcore accessories. What I'm struggling with now is how to clean up the basket/grounds after the shot... any video I can refer to for that haha

[@Larry]

Can you use pre-ground coffee at all?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Sure, you can drop it down a chute in the top of the machine. Cheers!

[@Larry]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner ah excellent, thank you for the info! :)

[@bittersweet6550]

Thank you for the video. It helps a lot. Can you explain how I get only the milk without coffee. I mean can I stop the Latte in the middle to get only the milk and not the Coffee? ❤❤

[@Car-guy307]

What does the long do?

[@danielecampanella77]

Hello Tom. We recently bought the white magnifica start because of your reviews. Thanks a lot. Very pleased with it. I just wonder what milk you use for frothing. Keep up the good work 🎉

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

@@danielecampanella77 Thanks! I use fresh milk, homogenized, and around 3.5% fat.

[@akramabdelnasser3391]

If you compare this with the EVO which one would you buy ? Is there really a difference other that the looks ?

[@TripleGems.]

W❤W IT COUNTERED THE NINJA THIS TIME GO GO GO,,, GIVE IT A GOOD SHOTS☕️V☕️💪💪🌟

[@chuckmoore1618]

Delonghi sent me this as a replacement for my True Brew, which I loved. I can’t get a good cup of coffee out of this machine. I’ve tried 3 different brands of beans and it doesn’t matter because no matter what I put in, it all comes out of this machine quite flavorless. Any recommendations??

[@4shehadeh]

How can we get a white one?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

I think they differ based on the market. I found this one used, so they must be around for a while already...

[@Irontodge]

Hi Tom, thank you for your review on this video, from what i see from this machine I am quite impressed. Im finding myself having less time to make my cappuccinos at home using the DELONGHI Dedica Arte EC885.M. One thing that worries me is seeing the way cappuccinos are made with automatic variants as they put the milk in before the coffee which would mean that the milk and the creama dont mix on the surface. In your experience with the Magnifica Automatic how have you found the quality of cappuccinos in comparison to frothing and pouring the milk yourself?

[@TerryBollea1]

This or a Gaggia Magenta??

[@pcrate20]

Hi Tom, good video which one you think have a better performance this one or the Ninja Luxe cafe?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Luxe Cafe, for sure.

[@kuidojogisalu]

What is the maximum amount of coffe that you can let thw machine to pour into Machiatto milk? Basically to make a coffe drink with light milk foam, just stop Machiatto milk in little time and fill cup with coffe.

[@yaseminozhan]

What about the noise? Is it more silent than the other ones out thee?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

No. I'd say the only ones that are quieter are the new KitchenAid models KF7, for example.

[@yaseminozhan]

@ oh okay thanks! I thought maybe the PHILIPS Espressomachine Series 3300 because it has a silentbrew technology. It could be just marketing :)

[@GGIS1]

is this machine worth buying?

[@MrApirlo21]

hi Tom, comparing with the Delonghi Specialista, which one will you recommand ? specially currently they are on the same price. Also have you tried the Doppio+ option, does it make a change ?

[@angi-steauaangi-steaua3248]

How to get the milk first ? We got the machine but for us the cofee comes first and then the milk

[@999flaviocosta]

Hi Tom, for expresso only, its better with delonghi ecp35.31 with pressurized portafilter and pre ground coffee or its better with superautomatic? Regards You are the best

[@SergioGonzalezMartin]

5:37 OK, the SA can make tasty coffee, but you cannot make an espresso and then a coffee with the same grinder adjustement. The coffee has x4 the amount of water, and the extraction goes deep into the realm of bitterness. You must change the grinder setting, and it takes at least two coffees to see the results.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

I find it's a matter of finding the sweet spot between the two. With fresh beans, I set the grinder to around 3 or 3.5, because any lower and I'd choke the brew group. Higher than that, and the shot comes out too fast. You also have to stop it in time if you want a shorter ratio. As for coffee, it might benefit from being set a little higher, but I am satisfied keeping it on the same setting as espresso. You will also see some european cafes make coffee cremas like that, keeping a fine grind size, but letting the shot run long to fill a cup. I quite like my coffee cremas in the morning, and I think that this is where these superautomatics shine.

[@SergioGonzalezMartin]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner I share your opinion when you say that super-automatic machines excel at making coffee cremas. When grinding coarsely, they are not penalized as much by having a mediocre grinder, and the extraction is more homogeneous. But as I was saying, if they do one thing well with one grind setting, they cannot do the other well.

[@edc1967]

Does it clean and descale itself?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

It has a descale program, yes.

[@angi-steauaangi-steaua3248]

How to get the milk 1st and then the cofeee??

[@elad7021]

what's better this or the evo? i want to buy i need your help

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

They are essentially the same machine, just look slightly different.

[@beach9952]

That's cool and all but when's the hibrew h7a dual boiler vid is coming 😢

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Well, I don't know where you're watching from, but I spoke to Hibrew, and they said they're not gonna offer the H7A on the North American market, because it draws too much current, so the fused circuits cannot handle it. I guess they will be coming up with a different option in the future though.

[@beach9952]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner its a great machine for me it has it all grinder dual boiler 58mm everything. My issue with it is that everyone is talking about the h10a as if thats hibrew's best machine while nobody even bats an eye on this one not even hibrew themselves talk about it if you go to thier channle you won't find a single video about it.oh and hi from bahrain 😊

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

@@beach9952 I'm guessing their target market is the USA first, then Europe, so they need to go back to the drawing board and make a machine compatible with American circuits. Hopefully soon. Cheers!

[@galaxycat7960]

Hi Tom what do you recommend, this one or the Phillips 3300? I'm from Canada but our 3300 looks just like the 3200 that you reviewed

[@kiddcisco]

if you want a stronger coffee the De'Longhi , I own a 5400, has been great and LatteGo is simplest for cleaning, 3300 is same as 3200 probably w an extra new feature

[@madmots981]

Hey Tom, how do I increase the water volume in my coffee cup. We had a magnifica s, so we pressed the two button. Now we have a magnifica start, and I'm only getting half a cup of coffee. Don't know how to use that ×2 button lol, thanks inadvance

[@thiagopiazzarollo]

Do a review of a new Ninja Luxe Café Premier ? And a difference from breville and ninja

[@rmdomainer9042]

How does this differ from the ECAM22.110.B, The Magnifica S? That oe seems to be the cheapest in my country.

[@mrdkr]

Have you noticed any differences between this model and Evo?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

They're exactly the same, except that this one no longer includes the milk carafe presence sensor.

[@h4kt4n]

Hi Tom, thank you for your valueable recordings. Can you compare a super automatic machine with a manuel? I am not sure about the quality of the espresso comes from the super automatic. on the other hand its time consuming to prepare an espresso via manuel machine. Does manuel machines always give better espresso with the same bean?

[@SergioGonzalezMartin]

A manual espresso machine with a decent grinder and the proper technique always gives you a better coffee.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Well, you have a lot more control over the Barista Pro, and it can make better espresso and silkier milk foam. But it requires developing the skill, which is why a lot of people go for the superautomatics. I did a quick and dirty comparison here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rX2WlYN-Z62li9k

[@voiceofreason314]

Do you NEED to put espresso beans into the machine or can regular medium roast beans work?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

@@voiceofreason314 Medium roast beans will work well, too.

[@kitcraft9516]

Which superauto would you suggest with a Panarello that we can remove for "advanced mode" steaming. Looking for something to go in a shared space that isn't espresso machine friendly, lol.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

I don't know...probably a Delonghi. Philips makes one too, but the rubber part is really stubby. Cheers!

[@kitcraft9516]

@TomsCoffeeCorner Thank you.

[@ravieprasaud4527]

How many ounces of coffee button produce

[@derickfermin8289]

Does the crema taste like it’s just imitation, Comparable to Breville manual espresso?

[@Ballardd21]

Tom we need a review of the Ninja luxe espresso machine pleaseee

[@pcrate20]

he already make a review check his channel..

[@gosman949]

But this one has the smaller puck size? You have to go up to the next level for the larger puck?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

@@gosman949 That’s right. This can do a respectable 12 gram puck, but you need a Dinamica or Eletta for the 15 gram Doppio+ option.

[@vic4092]

Magnifica start 220.21B has the doppio+ option as well and grinds 14g.

[@Myspicyonion]

Does it brew 16 oz at a time? Or fit a travel mug ?

[@kiddcisco]

none of these brew 16oz cause 16oz is NA, buy a drip coffee machine for that or you would have to brew second cup

[@afeld9075]

Hi Tom- do these delonghi automatics actually able to get to minimum 9 bar extraction for 'espresso'? I have a BBE now but want less work

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

If I'm honest, I don't think they get that high in pressure. Maybe 4-6 bars. I'd have to install a manometer and check though. It's an idea for a future video.

[@johannaschwiesow6378]

Hello. Can you give the dimensions of this machine? I'm finding varied measurements depending on the site and we have a very specific spot to fit it in. Thank you

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

@@johannaschwiesow6378 Sure, it’s 24cm wide, 44cm deep, and 35cm tall. Cheers!

[@johannaschwiesow6378]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thank you!

[@mercedes600brabus]

Hello, please tell me, I am choosing between these two models and as far as I understand, the Magnifica Start ECAM 220 30 model has an additional Long function, which is why it costs $120 more! Is it worth overpaying for one function if they are almost the same? or buy the regular Magnifica Start ECAM 220 22? what can you advise me?

[@kiddcisco]

sort yourself out, spend the extra 120

[@fplluke]

This or barista express in terms of end product for milk based coffee?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Barista Express is better, but this is easier. Cheers!

[@fplluke]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner thanks man. Love the content

[@wowwow1020]

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[@gbriank1]

Looks just like the Philips Saeco machines

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

@@gbriank1 It’s definitely not though. IMHO, Philips don’t hold a candle to Delonghi in super automatic territory.

[@gbriank1]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner Interesting you say that. Their prices are also a bit cheaper...and again, EU is cheaper than America. 😡

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

@@gbriank1 EU is somehow always cheaper. Which I don’t understand, because they have high import fees compared to the USA.

[@gbriank1]

@@TomsCoffeeCorner Yup. Totally agree. So you prefer the Magnifica Start to the Philips 5400?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

@@gbriank1 For espresso and milk quality, yes. At least as far as I can remember. It’s been a while since I’ve tried 5400, but I think it suffers from the same low dosage pucks as the 3200 and 2200.

[@johne7100]

Don't need all these duffers' cappuccino gadgets. If they would just produce a machine with a plain honest simple steam wand I would buy it, even without a no-burn jacket. (I tried your idea with the cable tie on the panarello core but it pulls off too easily. I guess that on 2017 machines the plastic they're made of is too stiff.)

[@yaserkazi6413]

How many max grams of beans can this take for a single shot of espresso?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

@@yaserkazi6413 12 grams. Or you can dump up to 15 g in the top, but make sure that it’s not ground too fine.

[@Ogikc]

Manual frother is where its at on this machine. These auto frothing gimmicks dont pass the test of time.

[@hasbeo]

I am Delonghi fan for 10 years but this mashine is very noisy.

[@airgunsandstuffyorkshire269]

Will this machine remember volume for drinks if you unplug it? Sometimes I need the plug socket that I'm going to use.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Yes, it remembers the settings, afaik. Cheers!