Delta Force: Hawk Ops vs Arena Breakout: Infinite - Which Should You Choose?

[@hellasketch6523]

I'm going to have to go with Delta Force after being fully addicted the last 3 weeks. The game takes the best parts from battlefield, call of duty, and Tarkov. I can see myself grinding all the content for a while

[@TheMustangStampede]

the best parts lol. People were playing delta force before any of those were main stream lol

[@Turican76]

so, you have no clue about BF

[@G-Loheem]

I just realized that The Division had this eons ago in the “Darkzone.”

[@ItzKamo]

Dark zone, my home infected by hackers since 2016 😂, toxic area as well, as good as COD. Then survival mode was good pve or pvp. Great sound track

[@iamsampeters]

To be fair, Runescape's original approach to PvP was it. Cross in to the Wilderness, kill other players and "get out" without dying haha. Dark Zone was soo good conceptually, shame the game itself wasn't great.

[@Tigliz12]

Thank You!

[@ItzKamo]

@@iamsampeters DZ was great till patch 1.8 with these damn 6 pieces classifield, jesus.. you had team running nomad with 3 free lives 😂, took them 2 other patch to disable it while in a team.

[@iamsampeters]

​@@ItzKamo Ah man, I think it had a heap of issues - I feel like combat in that game was generally a bit of an after thought. Bullet sponge bosses, excessive TTKs etc.

[@chriskni2821]

The learning curve for tarkov is what kept me from buying that game. Hawk Ops has done a great job of dumbing it down for us casuals. The havoc mode has been fun, the vehicles need a bit of work but very impressed what they’ve done so far. Thanks stone!

[@joshuag1795]

full of bots, bots with dogtags DOA

[@Prosthetics555]

There is no learning curve for tarkov

[@petrklicz6939]

@@Prosthetics555 what do you mean?

[@Prosthetics555]

@@petrklicz6939 What's to learn? Inventory/walking/camping simulator.

[@petrklicz6939]

@@Prosthetics555 ye, sure 😆😆

[@DonofDarkness18]

Great Video! As soon as I get access to Delta Force, I will sink my teeth into it. Until then I will ABI

[@brandongrotha7508]

My friends and I miss the cycle every day 😢

[@feardafish]

@@brandongrotha7508 same here

[@onelaststand1]

tcf was probably one of the most addicting games I've ever played. The team did so well from a creative standpoint, but technically speaking it was full of flaws so I can understand why they took it down completely. I think they'll bring TCF back, eventually but not in the same way, similar to how the game failed before it became TCF

[@PIG8STUIPID]

damn, forgot the name of the game as i was remembering how much fun i had. Solo Queue, nice loot/item System. Enjoyed it alot.

[@JesusSaves02]

AFI looks like a cloned yet more easy/updated EFT. Delta force is like a mixture of EFT (the extraction mode premise), DMZ(the gunplay, health, and movement), and Apex(with the team based operators)+ they have the battlefield style mode. As of now, I'm team delta force 100% as the majority are but we'll see as this year comes to a close. Delta force is looking like it will become a giant in the gaming industry going into next year

[@MansterBear]

I tried Tarkov... even with my second monitor showing the map, trying to orient myself/figure out where I actually am on the map was so annoying. Then, not knowing which items were the "must loot" items. Which items I looted were good for selling vs what I needed to keep for challenges, or what would skyrocket in value later in the wipe, etc. Then having to figure out which extraction point to go to, or getting there and it's not actually active, etc. Im a dad with a full time job. I don't have time for all that. Delta Force has been so fun. Great QoL features, everything is explained, rough prices on items as you loot them... favorited items so I know if it's something I need for base upgrades, etc... then it has the Battlefield type mode for when I just want to run and gun. Haven't played ABI. Downloaded it when it released to everyone, but then the news on the P2W stuff came out, and I was already loving DF so I just uninstalled it.

[@hollowfragment237]

@@MansterBear tbh I understand why you might not wanna play ABI but after giving it a try it definitely is a better game than Tarkov in the sense that it respects your time. I’m super busy with life rn but when I have an hour or two to spare I can get at least 1 mil in Koen. If you are a busy person it’s not a bad game I’d recommend not paying any money though so you don’t feel like you’re wasting money.

[@ballzsack1640]

ABI is fairly easy to get into. On the first map you can get like half a mil to a mil koen in one hour, players aren't extremely good rn, and no matter what ur loot is, 1 purple sniper bullet is gonna one to two shot you

[@camiloorellana3870]

Thiss

[@alxiong]

ABI is solo friendly. Delta is Team focused, especially with the abilities. Both good IMO, both fun, both free.

[@Edson-Ragas]

@@alxiong abi is kinda pay to win

[@alxiong]

@@Edson-Ragas oh it’s pay 2 win alright. But ABI takes no skill to kill a whale.

[@JERREX00X]

how is abi solo friendly you cant do shit solo when you ran into 4 man squad every time xD

[@ItsJustHenriHeck]

I really wish DMZ hadve kept going they had something special there. I remember playing it with a homie from the UK we were having a grand ol time and he said "I just know they're going to mess this up, it's too good" I laughed now here we are..

[@ThrobRoss]

Both of these new options are way better than DMZ.

[@ItsJustHenriHeck]

@@ThrobRoss I'm for sure going to check them out on PS5 if I can

[@ThrobRoss]

@@ItsJustHenriHeck definitely! They would both make great console games.

[@Plagues138]

Imo,. The only thing DMZ had going for it was map size/variety, vehicles and the cool extract mechanics. Delta force basicaly dunks it on everything else.

[@walker2006au]

@@ItsJustHenriHeck it became pay to win and the silly meta crap that requires you to grind for a few hrs with each gun in MP sucked. But without those it was great

[@AL8INOCARE8EAR]

I doubt there will be real money transactions with cheaters in Delta Force because you can't drop gear to other players in the game. If you bring any items in and drop them to your buddies, then extract, the items get mailed back to you. So there would be no possibility of hackers loading in, vacuuming up the best loot and then attempting to sell it to other players because it isnt possible. They could just sell the account though

[@Mk-qv9ie]

Yeah good thought I didn’t even think about that. Will definitely help with keeping cheaters out but not entirely cuz obviously people will just pay the cheaters to carry them through a raid and get all the loot for doing so. Definitely helps combat some of it either way.

[@envispojke]

It might still be feasible, but there would be a whole process for it. Like use a VPN in Oceania and queue with these parameters at this specific time, confirm that you are on the same server as the "seller", meet up, kill and loot them. Or abuse auction house in a similar way

[@bloodleshen1989]

DMZ was the only reason I played Warzone. I honestly lean more to Arena breakout. The graphics and atmosphere fits my appeal more. My problem is I'm a casual dad so Arena may be too hardcore for me lol. For me its going to come down to what I can run on my pc and how my ping will look like because ping is usually my main issue due to my location

[@luismachado4619]

Delta force all the way, got lucky last night and I’m hooked!

[@KeyJOSH8]

How cool would it be in extration shooters if every time a cheater was banned, they went through their match history and reimbursed every player they killed with the gear they lost to the cheater? Has this ever been done before?

[@krux7875]

@KeyJOSH8 Cycle Frontier actually did this but per raid, I would log back on each day and sometimes get upwards of 4 cheater reimbursements from yesterdays raids lol

[@mrmilkman9742]

RIP The Cycle 😭

[@real_rsaNoob13]

Arena Breakout only somewhat compensates you for reporting

[@LordCommanderVex]

Arena breakout refunds you some stuff if the person you report is found to be using third party software and gets permabanned

[@DonSpideyTheOne]

If u think about the fact that u can buy Koen with rl money it doesnt feel like ABI wants u to get a hold of ur gear. Feels more like they appreciate if u loose.

[@RunTheLoots]

I'd be happy to pay full retail for the campaign. Just keep the in game monetization in HO to battle pass and skins.

[@knolsey]

cod is severely dropping the bag with dmz.

[@nathandingy]

I think delta force really shows what changes DMZ needs. DMZ has a fun gameplay loop but no sense of progression. Take the gameplay of DMZ and the progression and armor system of delta force and COD can really make DMZ work but they probably dont give a shit

[@Deltatwo3]

Cod dropped the bag a year ago with DMZ and I'm glad because they don't deserve the success. Recently Activision has become a predatory crappy company in my opinion.

[@knolsey]

@@Deltatwo3 lmao please explain.

[@Deltatwo3]

@@knolsey I agreed with your comment... What do you want me to explain?

[@knolsey]

@@nathandingy nah it's not the armor system, it's the market place. You can stay with the 4 different types of vests, and 2 or 3 plate variants, and only medium or large bags. What you need is the ability to extract and sell things to vendors and a marketplace. Lootable attachments,that can also be bought/sold on the market place, allowing us to apply the blueprint variants on the fly. Insured slots just spitting out 0 attachment guns and having much longer cool downs. I do know that infinity Ward is currently fighting with Activision over mw4, so i am certainly worried about cod ever truly being as good as it was again.

[@Thaddeus49]

I've played them both I liked Arena Breakout it was literally Tarkov lite. But i liked Delta more because it was because it had the battlefield game modes and the extraction part. Delta just seems more fun and that's what I've been looking for in an extraction shooter. Just wish Delta had a solo Queue but still playable Solo.

[@oxzhy3341]

Delta Force all day long! I played ABI a lot, but this time is idk, the game is amazing i love it, but the biggest down point is for me, 1. Prices of stuff is soooooo HIGH man. 2. u need magazines, in Delta u Don't . Im glad that Delta is going different way then ABI. 3. The AI is way diff in ABI then in Delta, ABI AI is similar to DMZ AI, many times they can see u through trees, in a much longer distance than in Delta. I love both games, but Delta is winner for Me! ❤️

[@christopherpitts3941]

14:58 delta force had basically gotten rid of RMT by making it so tht any time u pick up a loot from a member of ur squad random or premade even if its off an enemy players body it gets sent back to them so there would be no way for cheaters or players to sell in game loot in delta force it would just disappear from the buys inventory upon extraction and get sent as a msg to the seller

[@MouldyCheez]

@@christopherpitts3941 ABI had it first

[@LifeOnEarthTogether]

I'm a fan of Arena Breakout. I'm afraid Delta will turn out to be taken over by the aim assist console kids. I will say after playing AB for over 100hrs, I havent noticed the p2w to be any factor at all. My advice is to stay off the Asian servers because they've been raised on p2w games. The North American servers are still a lot of fun and haven't been p2w at all in my experience. I've seen a couple players but they were both bad and donated their gear to my squad. If you're looking for a more user friendly Tarkov then play AB, if you're looking for a mix of Cod and BF then play Delta. Both are great games! I'm just happy we finally have something decent to play again.

[@PIG8STUIPID]

And the monetization for delta force isnt even out yet. However i dont feel any P2W in ABI. What you wrote sums it up.

[@WILMANGO681]

Arena breakout sadly has p2win but it’s not Tarkov level atleast

[@mattdattyy]

100 hours is nothing in the grand scheme and if u worried about console kids (which i agree with) just dont play delta force, im gonna play it for the battlefield gamemodes

[@densonjc]

@@LifeOnEarthTogether ill never understand the vendetta u pc players have with console players 😭 it’s such one sided beef

[@LifeOnEarthTogether]

@@densonjc I never understood it either until I spent my whole life on console and then went to pc. Now I understand why aim assist is a bad thing for games like this.

[@pigskinrode0]

Cheating needs to be handled. It's so out of hand nowadays. Sadly, it really ruins the experience for the masses.

[@ShoAVRmy]

Great side by side comparison, concise breakdowns and pros and cons. Thanks Stone. Delta Force looks like a solid game, I'm looking forward to the beta.

[@BHFBuDo]

I love arena, did not even buy anything and have stuff worth 7 mil. even got extended stash by just doing quests. so yeah this is my go to game dont think ill go back to tarkov.

[@JakeEatNow]

I just have zero desire to play tarkov ever again. Started playing in 2018 and doing the same quests over and over is just a chore at this point. It was better when the flea market was open and you could just buy whatever gear u wanted.

[@barbsuruncle]

I agree. The studio going back on promises before launch isn't a good look. I'll be looking forward to getting my hands-on Delta force. Is Delta force going to be on steam?

[@cj777dark]

@@barbsuruncle it’s even going to be on console by the end of this year. Or I might be thinking about arena, but one of them does have talks with a quick google search. But to answer your question, both will be on steam. Arena is technically on mobile right now, it just costs a lot of space. So to be honest, these games are taking over, and tarkov is still taking hundreds from people just for more space. Like, I already have cross play with lost light, I just come to tarkov for the cool new stuff they add, even though you have to be a try hard and be at least lvl 30 before you can see that stuff.

[@shadrachlane5555]

I spent 100 on abi for money havent spent a fraction of it yet and it will keep me going for probably 6 months maybe indefinitely if i can keep pulling good raids

[@oligoyoutube]

on the flipside; i have spent 0 dollars and have only used the elite coupons you get by playing the game. i have 3 million koen, and have been able to keep my starting AK i have modded. I am Lvl 23 and have been able to run absolutely gnarly kits to just HAVE FUN. Thats all this is about. Having fun at the end of the day. I don’t need to flex by playing the “harder game.” I am just having fun without spending any money. GGz

[@Pharaoh_The_Great]

It would be cool if the bodies stay on the ground (pause) in delta force. It tells a better story than them disappearing and seeing just a loot box. Seems a bit tacky but other than that still looking forward to delta force.

[@1S1KStealth]

regarding the DF safebox they did it the smart way by limiting what can be put into it. sure you can put in a large red/gold item but there are items that it wont accept so the risk of losing a lot of stuff is still there.

[@cainescobar9832]

So I have a question, when these 2 games came out the same week and both required you to watch a twitch streamer to get an early access to the game. So during that week both games were both published by Level Infinite, both games. And then a week went by and they changed owners. And both games at the time did look the same. So what happened during that time period? It seems sketchy during that week for both games and how it all changed after a few people noticed.

[@oleksandrkryvulko7336]

I play Arena and Delta Force. I think both games are incredibly good. It's a welcome change compared to the games we've been getting over the last few years. As an extraction shooter, Arena is simply unbeatable for me. I've never had such emotions, such a gaming experience as I had with Arena in my life. The game is really hard to master but it's worth it. The game has so many layers that you don't even understand the complexity of the game at first. In Delta Force, I mainly played the Battlefield mode and was totally thrilled. As a pre-orderer of Battlefield 2042, I expected little but got a lot. I only played the Extraction mode a little because it is much less realistic than Arena and in my opinion is more like Warzone than Tarkov. But I can imagine that it is also very good. Arena is much closer to Tarkov than Delta Force. I think it's good that Arena and Delta Force are different in Extraction mode, then we have two different games.

[@anthonythompkins9467]

Love the break down and the non bias opinions great job

[@FlakBait654]

i have been playing arena breakout from my mobile for about an year. this games gives the realistic gunfighting experience. way superior than cod, battlefield, etc. it had ingame currency from the start, its no surprise. but the same safe boxes that u buy using currency is also available for season credits for llimited time.

[@Soctom]

Cool a race to be the first billion dollar a year extraction shooter so fun...

[@colinroberts524]

I am just more excited about Hawk Ops because it has the 32v32 and I am more interested in that.

[@StoneMountain64]

seems many people are

[@colinroberts524]

@@StoneMountain64 It just feels similar to battlefeild 3/4 and after 2042 I think people want a new look at the genre.

[@MarvinBoydCo]

After playing both for hours here’s the easiest take away. If you wanted a Tarkov experience that is a slightly lighter version of it if things like a mini map or map in general along with being able to see teammates, roll up bags and other stuff then arena is the way to go. For a way more casual experience then Delta is the way to go especially with the fact you can make more meaningful money in delta than you can in arena. It’s easier to find items that have enough value to allow you to build out new setups and there are ways to get tickets to get free loadouts as well. Overall both are fun but are made for 2 different types of players

[@chipwitgaming]

very useful vid! Thank you for putting it out there!

[@deepert5771]

i go for delta force as i played all the delta force games from the past that where released by Novalogic like Delta force land warrior released in 2000 and so on :)

[@zero1487]

Paying for an advantage over other players in a pvp game is the definition of pay-to-win

[@mathiasschneider9113]

I've tried Blackout for nearly a week and just couldn't find the draw. Thanks for the layout of both cases. I can't wait for Delta Hawk Ops to come out.

[@nikawritescode]

Arena Breakout for sure, If you are COD fan kid that thinks soldiers slide and run like formula one cars and make cha Ching noises when kill people you go with Delta ))) otherwise if you want more realistic one Arena Breakout.

[@seppelson3856]

Interesting thoughts about and - at the same time - a great comparison of the two games I both like a lot.

[@skullowner3999]

100% go for Delta Force: Hawk Ops

[@ItsJayTeaYT]

20:25 perfect summary and agree 100%

[@MrLonwolfmq]

I totally agree with every point. Bad timed release for AB to release the same time as Delta Force, otherwise it would have has a chance. Excellent video!

[@reportimortal]

Man... I miss The Cycle so much. =( Is there anything close to what it was?

[@Deltatwo3]

Insane to me they sunset the game.

[@reportimortal]

@@Deltatwo3 they couldn't do anything about the cheaters and their budget ended, so nothing to do about it. =/

[@MrWEST1]

I'd honestly try both Hawk ops and ABI they feel sorta close to cycle in some ways. But Cycle was a masterpiece that hopefully one day will be revived. Without cheaters and scummy devs would be nice tho.

[@reportimortal]

@@MrWEST1 I'm playing ABI rn, but Cycle's thematic it's what gets me. Also, it was more arcade, which I find more fun. I'll try to check Delta Force. =/

[@MrWEST1]

@reportimortal Delta force and ABI are both good and I've been playing the both

[@NobodyKnows117]

Would be nice if Tarkov had a sub-server to cross platform PC and mobile like how arena breakout did and the new Beta WZ. (Unfortunately had my account hacked and a 2step Authentior placed on it....some people ruin good things but anyway I digress from my recent gaming pitfalls of experience) but yaa I agree with Stone on how a personal choice of sticking with Delta Force. Just watching you game I know the sunshine will come over thoughs mountains. Much respect and keep banging out thoughs heads hots! 💯

[@stealthymerc4156]

The Division did Dark Zone which was cool for the time.

[@StoneMountain64]

They were doing their own spinoff of just the dark zone extraction that just got cancelled too

[@emptyspaces87]

@@StoneMountain64 big sad about that, got to play a beta and it was super fun!

[@bigbagel1055]

Standard edition of eft is 50 you kept saying 70 thought I'd clarify.

[@Schniblogg]

Easy to say: Delta Force

[@JohnNorse]

The Cycle had a system that gave you back what you lost to a cheater, hope it is the same here.

[@BrickByBrickVets]

Stone 9:17 you have a 4 slot gold expensive item in your stash, and like a ballistic repair kit in your safe box. Drives me crazy 😂

[@giff74]

I agree with your summation, however I also enjoy going in solo with "value" gear and sneaking around taking out juiced players who have spent real money to buy their stuff. Nothing feels better in game than going with mid guns and meh gear and coming out loaded up!

[@hurcules216]

Not even a mention to Marauders lol. Though I think that is more if a niche extraction shooter.

[@wonderousboy]

A shame that game died out of nowhere

[@Mk-qv9ie]

@@wonderousboyout of nowhere???? It’s fundamental bad game. Gun play is awful, little gun customization, the ship system is awful, just spam a ship after you’ve destroyed it and you body players and the only counter is to jump ship before you get killed… The ads are horrible. You can point blank mag dump an ad and get one banged in the face by it. There’s no gear fear, your handed everything 2 hours into play. Very few maps, nothing to grind for. Just all round bad game. It definitely didn’t die outta no where it died on release because of how bad the game play was and still is. It needs a complete overhaul to its core game play if it wants to attempt to grab more then 400 players a month. 😂

[@nicholasreynolds6609]

Good game. Still playing it. It just wiped too!

[@nunomiranda3244]

love ABI for how hard the game is and the reality of the experience, no markers, no crosshairs, nothing, it´s just too hardore and that´s what makes it an amazing game. Not even going into ptw discussions.

[@Nokamigg]

14:10 No this is not an argument, this is just justifying P2W for literally no reason. A skilled whale will destroy you with the gear he has. Heck, with thermals he sees you before you can even react.

[@IAMTHEJUGGERNATE]

I couldn't care less about extraction shooters, but I am more interested in if Delta Force's other mode can be a legit Battlefield competitor. I find game modes are much more fun when you can make adjustments and change strategies to try to claw your way back into a match that's not going your way. That just doesn't exist in BRs/extraction shooters where your match is over once you die. You can't go "wow that guy's got a good setup for clearing rooms, so I'm going to swap to a long range weapon and see if I can shut him down from distance", you're just dead. If Delta Force can give DICE a kick in the pants with some legitimate competition, that'd be a win.

[@MansterBear]

I haven't played BF for a long time, but I like DF's version of it. Not as much destruction and stuff, but it's very fun. I've turned the tides a couple times by flanking and putting the spawn beacon deep in their line. You get some people spawning over there, create another front to fight on, then the fight for the point becomes easier, etc. I've spent more time in the extraction mode, but the BF mode seems fun enough too. Good thing is it's free, so you can try it pretty easily.

[@Tofik-89]

optimization, graphics, game mode, tanks and planes are not at all terrible, the balance in this game is at a high level. large companies should follow the example of this production, even in 2024 this game works great on my computer with gtx1060, The Best game in 2024 year

[@MyChiliIceCream]

I played DFHO solo and got hooked. I did find myself playing the game modes other than the extraction one more. I like the time to kill and the simplicity. None of those BS gadgets and weapons from bf2042.

[@aaronjameshorne]

I play all three! Tarkov and abi on my primary gaming desktop and other games on my laptop I carry around when visiting family and friends and all games are awesome to play why choose tbh

[@jesperjakobsen3775]

There is none of these that are a "tarkov killer" as they have very different takes on how the games are played... and both Delta force and ABI seems more like competitors to COD rather than a hardcore survival extraction as tarkov. Even Gray zone cant really be compaired to being a tarkov killer, even though it have the more "hardcore" take as tarkov have.

[@silversteele6624]

Unfortunately so far nothing has been a Tarkov killer. I cant wait for the day that something is cuz I hate to love that game given all the bullshit the devs have pulled and the amount of cheaters who play.

[@JackSteel1965]

Delta: Movement speed and adjustment blows. Its like walking in quick sand.

[@Kcriton]

People saying ABI isnt P2W are just coping because they have picked the wrong game and dont want to feel like that made a mistake.

[@KiroKirov-v1n]

And where is p2w? Come go buy all expensive stuff the best helmet the best armor i just brough sks with 20 bullets whre it cost me 30k and if headshot u you done and ur all p2w come to me so where is the P2W where is the adventage?

[@beemerplays]

Near the beginning, you were talking about similar games. I know it's not the greatest, but "Vigor" is a similar looter extractor. More console friendly.

[@backpackgg]

Unfortunately the movement and gunplay is so damn clunky that I just can’t play it, even though I’m looking for an extraction shooter for ages to play with friends on console

[@406yota]

you're forgetting to mention the division that's also another extractor shooting that's been out for a minute

[@brizu3639]

I played all the Arena betas, 2 weeks ago I stopped playing the game because it is dead with respect to content, add to that you can't play Forbidden Zone because it is full of chiters, the anticheat is useless, the bullets have no balance, or you play Mosin or you play FAL, and they don't want to release content until the final version. And they don't pay attention to pay to fast. The game needs at least 1 more year. I have been testing Delta Force this week, the game is incredible, a thousand times better than ABi, to see how it is now, it has some visual bugs but it could be officially released, it is a game at 80% now.

[@yarincool1237]

ABI is more my style and closer to tarkov which i like, delta force feels more like dmz/cod which is less my style, delta force is the objectively better made game but ABI is more my style as delta force just lacks that depth as ABI and EFT, the battlefield style mode is really fun but if it's an extraction game/mode I want it to be pretty hardcore.

[@AdrielAviles]

Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction to extraction shooter genre 01:34 - Free-to-play model and its challenges 03:57 - Anti-cheat measures in both games 05:14 - Delta Force: Hawk Ops gameplay and features 07:51 - Arena Breakout: Infinite gameplay and initial impressions 12:27 - Monetization controversy in Arena Breakout: Infinite 15:35 - Real money trading and its impact on game economies 18:07 - Personal preferences and final recommendations

[@FlyingMiniTacosYT]

I think a big problem with games that had always been a thing, but its so escalated now its insane is "this is the X(game) killer" when you say that sentance it puts such high expectations on a game that in reality is just another game. We need to stop calling games "CoD killers" or "tarkov killers" or "Battlefield killers" instead of that look at them more as competition. Competition is good for any game because it forces developers to make changes they normally wouldnt. No game is gonna "kill" CoD Tarkov or battlefield except for the developers of said game. Give the new games a chance of success by letting them be their own game

[@brandonpagraham]

Love the vids man!

[@douglascs101]

Awesome video!

[@TheJohnbarks12]

The rmt in delta force is impossible bc they made where if a teammate picks up something you brought in it goes back to you

[@is370]

They need to do away with the “renting” micro-transactions. Paying for the bigger safe containter in ABI would cost someone $120 for a year… rack it up again if you want to “rent” more storage space … that’s WILD

[@julianleft4662]

Delta Force has the same monetization as ABI. That being said, EFT is also p2w and has many issues with RMT and cheating.

[@DUDIDUAN]

Delta Force by far is the best quality fps game for me

[@CirclesGamingYT]

So far I can say delta force is dmz's replacement. Keeping in mind they do have to make money. I'll be interested to see how they actually execute that front.

[@alexfields6562]

After seeing this I think arena breakout now is gunna b the more slapper of the tarkov killer but im down to run delta tho it looks good

[@MarkoVuckovic32]

Well I just tried ABI and apparently my GPU is not strong enough and I can't even lauch the game. I have a GTX 1050 2GB and they said the game is optimized for GTX 960 so technically it should at least lauch but yeah. I hope I'll have more luck when Delta Force is available for everyone. Or ideally I might build a new PC by then. I'm definitely interested more in Battlefield and games that try to do the same formula compared to extraction shooters.

[@silversteele6624]

Dude your system is extremely outdated. When they give you minimum specs it doesnt mean its advised thats what you actually run to play the game. Unfortunately technology is moving at rapid speed these days and you have to some what keep up with it if you want to play the games theyre releasing nowadays. It is what it is. I have a 3080 and 32 gigs of ram and even my rig struggles to run some games at high fps consistently at high res.

[@MarkoVuckovic32]

@@silversteele6624 3080 is absolutely fine at 1440p no need to run anything at higher resolution than that

[@silversteele6624]

@@MarkoVuckovic32 I agree. Thats exactly what I run. I dont need or even care for 4K. I was just simply saying even the build I have struggles with running certain games at a consistent high fps. So its not shocking that a 1050 with 2gb isnt running some games. Definitely time for an upgrade if youre a PC gamer.

[@MarkoVuckovic32]

@@silversteele6624 yeah, I know I need to upgrade buy considering that this game started out as a mobile game, I thought it would run a little better even on weaker hardware.

[@nerfroop8307]

I wish some aspects of delta force were put into ABI. Reviving dead teamates, the fluidity of looting and moving. ABI is a bit too hardcore and weiner pinching for the casual bro at times.

[@cuppy666]

I’ll pass on ABI, I’d much rather play the more well rounded game with mode options and a slight casual lean. If I just want extraction I’m just gonna keep playing tarkov, the slight qoa paired with pay to win does not seem worth the investment

[@stephendippenaar9986]

Its time they make AI eliminate cheaters as i would say good luck to them once AI handles it as it will remember you from your play style and voice and many other factors as it will monitor players closely so once you play it knows you on a personal level

[@simonphoenix3789]

I didn't really try delta force's tactical turmoil too much, but I didn't like it all that much. ttk is too long, and movement speed is so fast. it feels too twitchy and fast paced for my liking. I like the deliberate pace of Arena breakout infinite much more. Its just a pity there are so few maps right now. I've never encountered a flagrant cheater on arena breakout infinite. There was one instance where the killcam seemed like the guy was cheating from how well he spotted me, but it could have just been that he saw me before the killcam activated.

[@8Tarkus8]

Great video by the way

[@jadetorr6360]

The fact that both games came from Chinese game company and we can't change the fact that they have the same marketing strategy to most of the free download games. I played both DF and AB and I'm getting used of it as f2p

[@R-C-ONE]

There is a lot of Aimbotters in Delta ops, there struggling with the ESP side of things ESP is getting people instantly banned but the aimbot is slipping through the anti cheat, i have had so many suspicious deaths on Delta Ops, where as on ABI I’ve played to level 10 and only died like three times each time I’ve watched the kill feed back and it’s been genuine. There anti cheat is ahead of the game.

[@ericchhakchhuak4154]

im just happy we have other option that did a good job

[@MiXue_Macha]

Arena Breakout : You get to play ABI "Heart Attack, Fear, Disappointed". Delta : Enjoy your game.

[@CSWolf141]

Past tarkov, Between ab and delta force delta force its more f2p friendly

[@Fracture-rq1vf]

I didn't think I'd like delta over arena cause I hated dmz. But delta is doing something right and I love it more than arena. Just please don't f it up like arena. I really like the content their offering.

[@floridabassedition9345]

I been waiting to play for months don’t understand why none streamers can’t get to play betas.

[@MrBrezzie20]

The mulch you have to deal with on console is a mess. At least you ain’t gotta worry about cheaters and modders

[@POP7QWIZ]

ABI is a good game, with this nagging feeling in the background that something is off, and it's the monetization, the prices are insane.

[@ericramey7599]

Thanks!

[@StoneMountain64]

MUCH LOVE

[@ramsesdelatorre996]

The vots in DMZ are better than most players who has ever played a video game

[@pwinceee1362]

Tbh I love arena breakout and even if u pay to win u can't win lol it's just a game I killed pay to win player with thermal while I'm using mosin. Arena is not hard if you just focus and play, JUST PLAY HAVE FUN, don't think too much

[@MatticusL]

If I had a Delta Force key I'd probably be playing that because my partner is a lot more casual than I am. We played arena break out and it's good and tarkov-esque but the fact that it's literally pay-to-win I uninstalled so fast. What's the point of playing if I can buy every end game armour, giga chad my guns and everything? Oh I died? Well not like I don't have $50 mill in the bank to buy it all again and go again. Just waiting patiently trying to get key for Delta tbh

[@ReconWafflez]

I mean, seems easy enough to solve. Just don’t buy things from the store. Oh you died? Don’t swipe your card and put together another kit. Gear still matters if you just don’t p2w

[@tadantandadan9107]

Delta Force might fail just like Stone said... they're too focus on putting out so many feature and options like Story Mode..might cause them to fail or not finish or maybe publish a game similar to Cyberpunk.

[@mnnice1497]

I haven't had the chance to play delta but Arena breakout doesn't have crafting?! I want any item I pick up to have some value outside of monetary. I love lost light crafting

[@Plagues138]

AIB instantly loses for me due to the monitization. Paying for in game currency kills the in game economy simple as that. So far DF is the clear winner.... But there's still time for tencent to F this one up too.

[@Gameup-tk7oo]

trust me it doesn't affect the economy on the mobile version at all i passed 80% of all player wealth by just playing FREE

[@jkzamien]

Delta force should do a version of the ARMA3 king of the hill mod. No one is doing it and it would be amazing.

[@hunter110299]

simple. abi = p2w df = not p2w. and extra game modes/campaign. also like the ammo/armor dynamic more in DF. Before level 30 in ABI i had 7 accounts banned that where blatantly cheating. have seen any cheaters yet in DF. Excited to see the other maps coming to both games, but DF definitely has my mind set as the “better” game.

[@GramKracker88]

Tarkov < ABI < Delta Force for sure - seems to be consistent sentiment

[@silversteele6624]

How? LOL makes no sense at all. Unfortunately Tarkov is still the best of these 3 games. Its not even close.

[@deltaowlfps7973]

The only cheat i know in AB either it is that monster auto head ai or a guy with thermal