Democrats are in deep trouble - even if Hillary Clinton wins

[@andrewtickel6804]

Unpopular opinion: end the political parties. George Washington said it would leave us divided and look what happened

[@BollocksUtwat]

Alternative and much more feasible solution -- rework the political system to make it possible for multiple parties to win.

[@BollocksUtwat]

***** I would think the love for the second amendment and the importance of the first amendment would indicate that Americans are far less puritanical in practice than you insist.

[@Mandragara]

I can see them adding, I can't see them changing

[@BollocksUtwat]

***** Amendments constitute a change, and most certainly a contradiction of the notion that the constitution is perfect.

[@Mandragara]

BollocksUtwat By change I mean swapping out something for something else. Like changing the voting system. Not adding "oh yeah people can own guns"

[@BroAnarchy]

Spoiler Alert: She didn't win

[@jas2800]

no way

[@BroAnarchy]

@@jas2800 yes way

[@herb3784]

reeeeee😂

[@BroAnarchy]

Okay josay

[@4ndressalva]

You don’t say!

[@hadipawar2539]

This video aged somewhat well.

[@czechmate5079]

this is true, I think the dems are actually better without clinton as trump as stained the Repub. party, now places like Virginia is fully in democratic control

[@plutoisaplanet6781]

Thy3Duck you are very intelligent

[@czechmate5079]

@@plutoisaplanet6781 I came to that conclusion mostly since I watched Virginia transform after the 2019 elections from a swing state sliding a bit Liberal to a full on blue state, I don't think, on the state and national stage, that democrats would be able to make these gains due to Clinton's unpopularity, as a democrat, I'm content with Virginia's new status

[@plutoisaplanet6781]

Thy3Duck ok

[@WheresTheWall]

Dems are now about to win a red state in 2020

[@clawmachinez26]

As a great man once said; "Well well well, how the turntables."

[@Jon-su5my]

Friggin Michael Scott

[@yourgoingtohellyoutoo1282]

Well well well how the turntables 😂 it went your way but then it didn’t go everyone’s way literally

[@DemonetisedZone]

How the turntables? who said that, a DJ?🤨

[@joshuaalfaro4781]

Mark Greg Sputnik said so many beautiful things

[@CodexTestsYT]

@@DemonetisedZone joke went over your head it's a sarcastic statement originated from "how the tables have turned" to make it sound funnier

[@billbob1149]

Scroll back up and watch the damn video

[@jensen333]

no!

[@billbob1149]

Yes and you will

[@billbob1149]

"well what if I finished it?" YOU CAN NEVER FINISH

[@guerillafresh]

damnit you caught me

[@Destort]

this needs more upboats

[@InkEyes]

It's time to officially add the air-quotes to our name. The "United" States of America.

[@mitchellalexander9162]

Anything that is long divided will surely unite. Anything that was long united will surely divide. -Romance of the Three Kingdoms

[@2nd3rd1st]

It's long overdue... but I'd rather make it The States of America

[@noahdenver7349]

How about "The Divided States of America"

[@Im0nJupiter]

+goheat Actually Republican states are over represented on average...

[@dubsideproductions2859]

This comment is everything

[@A_78939]

More like the entire country is in trouble whoever wins

[@skateerboy13]

pretty stupid Taylor, how about you read the constitution :)

[@socialism-rocks7430]

the founding fathers were white nationalists ...... anyone who goes against white nationalism loses long run

[@MichaelSmith-rn6pq]

you don't get it. Trouble is trouble, regardless of the degree. it's arbitrary to compare.

[@Huntracony]

Agreed. Hillary is like a toxic skittle, that will make the country fatally sick. Trump is like a nuclear bomb that'll destroy the country and make it unlivable for centuries to come.

[@sukainarizvi3110]

Well said!

[@DaesungMars]

"Richer, whiter, older" Was that necessary?

[@Thepoltergiest101]

It's Vox. They'll squeeze in leftist agenda, even in supposedly nonpartisan videos, by any means necessary.

[@DaesungMars]

Zach Ritchie I see. So much for not discriminating based on race.

[@EvanJamesGames]

If you know that why are you watching if you don't like it?

[@CalumPMSmith]

They’re the three main demographic differences between the parties. It's relevant, especially when talking about redrawing districts. A Republican senator(?) recently explicitly said that the reason they were pushing for voter ID laws is because black voters lean Democratic.

[@Thepoltergiest101]

james d The problem is that they implied that old, rich, white people are rigging the system without any evidence to back it up.

[@8ballsix27]

i voted for Bernie.

[@JM-us3fr]

Always Bernie

[@karantolani]

#feelthebern

[@Bishop134265]

Yes, but the point of the video is that Bernie and the people like him, who supported the ultra-liberal views are bad at a state level for the Party. We have gone too far to the left. We could stay this far to the left if Democrats voted in midterm elections, but we don't. I literally had a friend on Facebook, a 28 year old friend, just post a status of "Why didn't anyone tell me about these midterm elections before? When do they happen?" This is why we lose the state governments, and down ballot elections.

[@jhfridhem]

I care about the fact that bernie should have won

[@jhfridhem]

take a look into the DNCleak and then try to laugh

[@Nawaf95]

Politics today, are more exciting and have more drama, than most TV series.

[@skateerboy13]

true lol

[@OverLordthe1st]

You say that like it's a good thing?

[@ארדקרן]

But you have just TWO CANDIDATES! That's so boring!

[@hadardagan5426]

כל כך נכון ארד קרן

[@TheOneAndOnlySomething]

+ulvi gitaliyev Yet you weren't alive then.

[@JavierSanchez-mo2ef]

Damn the production in this video is freaking cool

[@abelzatyko1513]

An objective comment! PRAISE THE RATIONAL GODS!

[@dooplon5083]

*subjective I loved the editing too (it was great!) but it's still an opinion.

[@abelzatyko1513]

Atomic Robo Tesla​ I meant it is objective to the whole politics thing going on

[@JavierSanchez-mo2ef]

Atomic Robo Tesla yeah u might say is objective but only relatively speaking >. >

[@abelzatyko1513]

***** I think you should put this in a separate comment

[@nathanmock1824]

Sees 2020 polls: “How the turn tables” -Michael Scott

[@jacklewis3803]

Nathan Mock I reckon the Dems will be able to control all 3.

[@joemills346]

@@jacklewis3803 It seems fairly likely, that much I'll agree. The Trump Administration is beginning to crumble under its own weight as polarization is no longer a good tactic. America is tired, and just wants to come together again after this strange episode of its history. Polls reflect this, with numbers becoming tight for Trump in many states; even Texas.

[@yourlocalramen1660]

@@joemills346 If Texas votes for Biden, Trump is officially done.

[@jacklewis3803]

Joe Mills Trump’s gonna crumble and implode.

[@jacklewis3803]

Womp Womp yup 👍

[@stroads.]

If the Republican politicians could stop the immaturity and we could all work to better the country, this wouldn't be a problem.

[@vincentterraneo263]

You could flip that statement around and say the same about the Democrats

[@stroads.]

Vincent T. The Democrats don't have control of the Senate.

[@stroads.]

***** Grow up

[@superhond1733]

B-But my senile old man is NOT immature!

[@draconicepic4124]

I wish the United States had an option for electors to say abstain and request new candidates.

[@philipmcniel4908]

We do--voting for third-party candidates--but people are so afraid that the worse of two evils will win if they do that.

[@draconicepic4124]

Philip McNiel I rather risk a third party candidate than either Trump or Hilary winning.

[@philipmcniel4908]

You're free to vote 3rd party then--if enough people do and nobody takes an electoral majority, who knows?

[@draconicepic4124]

Philip McNiel I'm going to hope it comes to that because it will finally show that we need voting reform... The current policy sucks.

[@Huntracony]

Yes. The US should really switch off of the first past the post system. Literally any other voting system is better.

[@chopinbloc]

We're all in deep trouble. No matter who wins.

[@chopinbloc]

Maybe. He's a little more likely to instigate a war, though.

[@chopinbloc]

lol, sure. Trump has been for and against everything.

[@bcubed72]

Actually I think things can only get better. Both parties were monolithic and out of touch with their base. In both parties, a grassroots candidate arose and overthrew the orthodoxy...or came damn near doing so. In both cases, the party, going forward, will HAVE to change, and be more receptive to the base, or perish. SO, I think things are going to begin to get better, though I think the next 4 years may suck. (In fact a Machiavellian viewpoint might be to hope the opposing party wins this time, as it's likely they will be unpopular, have no support in congress, and be ineffectual.)

[@501stEliteClone]

That's true, Clinton won't get much done without over stretching her power if she wins. Gridlock is inevitable

[@Grubnar]

Your comment reminds me of the tag-line for the Aliens vs Predator PC game: No matter who wins ... we lose!

[@aarontschetter1743]

Watching this video in 2021 is like looking into a strange alternate reality

[@Lucy-ng7cw]

True. And I'd say having majorities in the lower and upper houses plus on the state level is more important then who is president in many ways.

[@Lucy-ng7cw]

But all you hear about is electing the president

[@parkerflop]

Who actually pays much attention to local elections?

[@Lucy-ng7cw]

Mike V Wait, what?

[@Mak-Daddy]

+Lucy Hunt Sorry somehow replied to the wrong comment. I feel like an ass.

[@MrGamelover23]

Mustafa M But we SHOULD pay attention to them. President doesn't really do much compared to them.

[@MrBruteSmasher]

i love you vox but i really wish you were less biased

[@annalancellotti128]

Against whom? Cuz they're pretty liberal, from what I've seen.

[@AMX-014S]

Pretty liberal? They are outright shills.

[@scottymeuk]

The exact same was said in the last video, of them praising Clinton... make your mind up.

[@computo2000]

No this is wrong... They usually seem to support the Democrats. But I will agree they keep contradicting themselves and some of their statements are only half trues, i.e lies. In the end they are too inconsistent and questionable for me to trust.

[@benttonwisard1313]

*Vox said something against republicans* "VOX IS BIASED" *Vox says something against democrats* "VOX IS BIASED" Hey buddy, when they say something against both the parties and continue to make videos about how they both need work and give real data points, they're not biased. That's as unbiased as you can get in today's age.

[@drumman22]

Wait people are actually thinking of picking Hillary Clinton??

[@fayguled900]

People who do not want a Trump presidency are picking Hillary

[@akinmytua4680]

why not Johnson?

[@TheMagicfan77]

Because Johnson can't win

[@djdrjmusic]

Because voting for a third party in a winner-take-all system splits the vote and doesn't get your first or your second favorite candidate elected.

[@DutchTDK]

Johnson is quite disconnected from the real world if you look at his interviews. Though he was the most moderate and reasonable candidate for the libertarian party, the party itself wouldn't have the right ideology in my opinion. Then again, if you realy want a third party candidate then he's probably the best choice since jill stein has no political experience

[@spikey_104]

This just makes me think losing in 2016 was the best thing that could've happened to the democratic party

[@sebastianaminoff9703]

You would be right, except for one thing. Republican Supreme Court...

[@HeadshotJack]

Yea like republicans have 1/3 house senate prez so the can stall forever and they overhauled the court for 40 years in 4 🤯🤯. It low key might have been the worst thing imaginable

[@ivanpb1983]

Thanks pal, you just ruined my weekend. :/

[@Keyz-pz5xy]

:)

[@dooplon5083]

ok.

[@kelhunter2212]

said by the supporter of a corrupt murderer

[@TheSupart91]

corrupt murderer?? wtf? so i guess Bush iraq war isn't considered murder.....since deaths of Iraqi civilians and American personnel doesnt count

[@kelhunter2212]

Arturo Hernandez She is in favor of those wars -_- trump is against them

[@nicholasxuu]

Half of the video is focused on a map, the exact map vox literally made a video explaining using this map for election is WRONG. ( Video is called: The bad map we see every presidential election )

[@ErickTG]

lol, you are right

[@saganmartin9823]

but this isn't about electoral votes, it's about states.

[@danielsmith7922]

The map is bad in an election context because of the electoral college, but fine in this context.

[@lereff1382]

+nicholasxuu No, they are TWO different maps. The map shown in the video is NOT % of voters. Pay more attention.

[@arisenspirit]

you seriously need to fact check first before making comments like this. the map you are talking about was about the party support while this one is for the control each party has.

[@Lapusso650]

Face it. American politics is unpredictable

[@BollocksUtwat]

American politics is actually really really predictable and that's whats wrong with it. The video is basically analyzing the crisis to come by observing the trend that's been ongoing since 1945 where power is traded based on public observation of who is in the white house. America's politics would be way better if it were actually unpredictable, like in those more progressive European countries where odd ball parties come to power when people get upset with the status quo, instead of just having some slightly odd candidate for the centrist parties like in America.

[@adrianlowenberg]

Just one comment. I am from Spain, and have a lot of contact with people from both Germany and the UK as well. For us western Europeans, the GOP is not near centre, it's more ultra liberal hardcore right. Not far-right in most cases, but far from any mainstream party here in Europe like the ones in the European Popular Party, which are the classic centre/right parties here. edit: sorry, liberal as we understand it, so liberal in the economic sense, you could simplify with 'small government'

[@Lapusso650]

No. It's not. 2008 was said to be the beginning of a progressive era

[@TC-st9nt]

I'd say that started with Clinton. Dubya was a Progressive too. Almost all of Obama's policies started with Dubya and he's done very little different. Even Obamacare isn't all that different from what McCain was going to do. In reality what we've had for the last 20+ years is Progressives on both sides of the aisle pushing Progressive ideals. Those on the Republican side pay lip service to non-Progressive ideals, but never actually try and stop them, just like Dems pay lip service against a lot of military interaction, but then still continue those policies. This election is the first time since Perot in the 90's that there's a real candidate who is not a Progressive. Whether Trump will win or not remains to be seen. If he does, it's the end of the 2nd Progressive Era, if he doesn't then it continues.

[@BollocksUtwat]

president camacho He defines it by ignoring the staunchly radical neo conservative economic policies that have dominated since the 80s and does what everyone else does which is look at social values because that's what many of the modern western democracies have done -- separated economic inequality issues from social inequality and as we've progressed one end we've regressed in the other. Never forget that half of Bernie's platform is middle 20th century Republicanism but is seen as socialism today.

[@MuhammadMoiz91]

And we're here in 2020....

[@Seththeprince]

That's why Canada's the best country in North America

[@nasser314]

Hey, dont forget about Mexic.... oh wait

[@MrQuickscopes34]

Wrong. Chile is.

[@MrQuickscopes34]

***** Chile is on the American continent.

[@hatebagel5982]

+Blastphamous H Dizzle the SOUTHERN continent

[@gilbertyew1033]

define best

[@joe961]

We are all in trouble if she wins!

[@blushpinkbunny]

True.... I'd still vote for her corrupt ass anyway...

[@kingswordisbodoubleS]

+Melon Soda Fizz nor her or Donald deserve your vote..

[@awesome395]

So you'll vote for someone that gets people killed and take funds from charity? Wow, that's messed up.

[@joe961]

Because she doesn't say mean words? Goes to show how brainwashed people are. Her little video asking the general public as to why she's 50 points behind was great! Smelt of desperation and the fact that she really doesn't understand the American people nor does she care. Wait, are you an employee for that company her foundation opened that employs people to speak highly of her and defend her on the Web?

[@2liveis2fly]

WOW, what a box you must live in. The woman has been in public service for more than 35 years, of course she's made some mistakes. But in all that time that she's been under a magnifying glass, and after all those accusations, how much actual evidence has your phoney B-S side been able to produce? ZERO, NONE. If you had any common-sense at all, you'd be able to figure out that somethings just not right. But instead, you're much more interested in having something to talk and agree about with the buddies, your fellow goof-balls.

[@animeballsdeep]

we all in trouble fam :|

[@JoseMartinez-gk2ke]

Ian Davis they will, don’t worry.

[@ryand2389]

Can we get a follow up on this topic please! :D

[@zebrastripe665]

It's really sad to see that so many people regard this as a competition/fight between two parties/ideologies rather than a spectrum focused around "what will help us most right now, and, if need be, how can we compromise to achieve that?"

[@Meyers1793]

Great analysis and beautifully produced. Well done Vox and Matt.

[@JasmineJu]

"We need to pander to the centre" Pollsters actually believe this.

[@kgbcommitteeforstatesecuri3315]

Just here to see how well these comments aged

[@farnorthskiing]

Trump being elected might have actually been a good thing for Democrats.

[@GhostieTheML]

yeah it was

[@Joe-sd2kx]

Now joe being elected was a good thing for republicans.

[@jimboonie9885]

@@Joe-sd2kx Who will be the next candidates in 2024

[@wosh253]

@@jimboonie9885 idk, trump might seek for another election but idk if he would be the nominee, biden already said like a year ago he will serve 1 term so for the democrats its not decided, kamala harris MIGHT run in 2024, but for now we dont know yet.

[@ImTitan16]

@@wosh253 the republican party for president was just announced and he wasn't there

[@harrylo8558]

Athenians in 430 BCE: Democracy is great Us now: Where did we go wrong???

[@Earthium]

Monarchy please, at least we know who to kill.

[@BollocksUtwat]

Back in Athens at one point the men who rowed the Triremes in battle gained massive political power and for a brief time Democracy was at the mercy of *_Big Oar_*

[@dmitchel0820]

The problem isn't that we need a dictator, its that we're no longer really a democracy.

[@matthewmartin7153]

the united states has never been a democracy nor plans on being a democracy... democracy always falls to mob rule which is why we are set up as a republic

[@Earthium]

It has aspects from democracy. Checks and balances.

[@prabhavvenkatesh9247]

good news: she didn't win bad news: her opponent won

[@mmdd1808]

why do ppl hate her?

[@wojosquad4680]

@@mmdd1808 she a bought out warmonger

[@jasonchen4807]

Watching this now in November 2017 is like feelsbadman

[@SergeantPsycho]

Watching this in 2019. ROFL

[@why_tho]

Spoiler alert: 2020.....

[@SergeantPsycho]

@@why_tho I read this comment in 2020.

[@edanjeanlouis3813]

You didn’t search this up

[@Flabulo]

Even though this video was technically unbiased. I could smell the writers democratic bias, in the descriptive words used for Republicans.

[@jackb9045]

because republicans are objectively bad

[@Flabulo]

J Cruz Could you not? I don't believe in the bipartisan system anymore because people like you refuse to listen to both sides. Nethether are evil, both have their good sides. I don't expect you to get this. I actually expect to get an almost angry response or one that dismisses what I say all together. Either way, just because you have been brainwashed by the left doesn't mean the right doesn't make some good points. Same goes for the brainwashed turds from the Right.

[@jackb9045]

Dude, I was kidding.

[@Flabulo]

J Cruz Where you? Sarcastic tone doesn't carry so well in text.

[@jackb9045]

Well I was semi kidding. I think Dems are better than republicans but I don't think one party is totally good while the other is totally bad. I probably should have done the '/s' to make the sarcasm apparent cause there are plenty of people out there that actually think like that.

[@BettyAlexandriaPride]

So true. Oh, so very true. Not enough people realize the magnitude of each branch in government, nor do we put enough emphasis on local and state elections.

[@Budmiren]

Who is here after the Georgia election in 2021? 🤩🤩🤩🤩

[@s4gr_n0s3y]

If your happy Georgia made Democrats take control of the government I just wanna give you a your welcome because I’m from Georgia and I’m glad we finally saved America

[@budomk9299]

@@s4gr_n0s3y thank you. You did

[@johnnyd8638]

@@budomk9299 y’all delusional 😂

[@derekadams5637]

@@s4gr_n0s3y tell me how, because trump is bad sorry not enough for me to vote for you

[@joshuajarrett7186]

@@johnnyd8638 You're delusional.

[@tapiture3720]

One thing he forgot to mention is that the republican's electorate is dying, while the democrat electorate simply isn't voting, which is a much easier problem to fix.

[@howtubeable]

You are making so many assumptions that are not based on reality.

[@cedricperaza8751]

Howard Wiggins you're right they aren't based on reality, they're based on history

[@giovanni848]

U guys do realize the people who are dying probably have children right

[@zbdmo4914]

@@giovanni848 The younger generation is statistically more left wing than older generations.

[@hijack69]

actually a lot of young people voted republican

[@ananthakrishnanma6650]

Him: Dems shouldn't move left Also him: Dems can't make their bese show up I wonder who their base is🤔🤔

[@budomk9299]

Yeah I've never understood this contradiction

[@fos1451]

Moderate african-american

[@jojoyayathereal]

@@fos1451 what

[@Nintendoof]

Coincidences are real. Forecasts are real. And watching this today is sobering.

[@douglasphillips5870]

This is why it's really important to vote for state assemblies! I can't stress that enough! State assemblies control redistricting, voting regulations, and presidential electors in most states. Make sure your state leaders know that you're paying attention to these issues, and they matter on how you will vote.

[@PabloRuizMega]

what did hilary clinton do or say to lose the elections?

[@antonross007]

hey Im a dude from Central Europe, who was wondering why the US are holding on to that two party system, although most people dont seem to be happy with Hillary or Trump. Woundn`t a change of voting laws be able to give US citizens the opportunity to choose between more than two canidates? Or are there even benifits in a two party system?

[@akinmytua4680]

I'm voting for Johnson, libertarian party. The problem is that the people in the 2 party system set it up so that no one outside of the two parties can win. But this year, they are going to have to rethink things.

[@ixjax5184]

A 3rd party candidate could be president, if we didn't have this bullshit 200 year old system called the electoral college.

[@akinmytua4680]

yeah. we are a republic, not a true democracy

[@ihatejasonfu]

Yes, a change of voting laws away from first past the post voting would be beneficial. To everyone but the two parties. Who control everything. Would need a large-scale effort from the people for a constitutional amendment.

[@nromk]

Two issues though, the two parties most US citizens complain about are the ones who make the election rules and decide what parties can run, what parties can get funding, and what party has no access to anything and the second issue is even if both parties were friendly towards third parties there's just no third party big enough or important enough to carry a wide platform for any government session in the US; and for the left until we get something better the Democratic party is the bes however even if something better does appear I have no doubt that bot parties will hold the door closed on it.

[@Nade100T]

Hillary supporters are triggered lol

[@skevoid]

What Hillary supporters? Look at the comments, almost all the people that will be voting Democrat are unhappy that Hillary is the candidate.

[@UsserError]

The reason you don't see a lot of Hillary supporters posting is that most of them are to old to use computers.

[@mathewhastings9485]

actually that is false, it was proven that the election was rigged in Hillary's favor. so no

[@mathewhastings9485]

it doesn't matter who wins this year, we're screwed either way because people would rather vote on there political ideologies than do what right for the country. also people like this guy doesn't make things better by trying to paint the Democrats as holier than though party.

[@skevoid]

***** That statistic is irrelevant, since the context is talking about the commenters on this video.

[@gabrielbizzlebop4702]

gotta love Vox's hate of white ppl

[@kingjamestres]

Are you one of the rich old white men?

[@Neil-qg9cw]

It's not hate when it's a fact dude. Statistically that group of humans is more likely to vote Republican so obviously the Republican party wants to skew districts in their favour using that knowledge... it's purely logical.

[@joellaz9836]

Rich old white man spotted

[@jonathanhernandez3292]

he's keeping those chromosomes in check inbreeding

[@edixonsoulmanoneedixon1635]

guess what! i dont know who to vote for help me please!

[@MikeGubisch]

let's see here. analyzing the the past 8 years shows clearly the united states isn't on a path for success. Its time to forget political correctness and bring back America values. Don't let us down, Trump.

[@cy5434]

- Kilo- Vote third party 2020!

[@jiemingou2010]

Who's here in 2020?

[@mouwersor]

What if the whole US turns more 'left' (AKA 'normal' for non-americans from first world countries)?

[@verfed]

No, that's what makes America great. We still have more freedom than other countries, especially in free speech & gun rights. Economically we have fallen behind, but turning farther left will only exasperate the situation.

[@justthecoolestdudeyo9446]

Unlikely. I wish it were so, but swathes of people are actually drifting right (Republican Party has famously gone from center-right to "radical/reactionary" stage, where a functioning gov't that attempts to address and solve problems is an inherently negative thing, and Democrats are only barely becoming more liberal) yet the Republican Party is actually more successful now, despite moving to the right fringe (or in that direction)

[@justthecoolestdudeyo9446]

Dennis Taaffe I agree! I don;t think it'll happen though :(

[@imacds]

I wish Americans could compromise. You leave my bathroom alone, I'll leave you your guns alone. Seems straightforward to me.

[@justthecoolestdudeyo9446]

***** It doesn't help that like-minded people have congregated in separate places, so many individual Senators or (especially) representatives don't need to appeal to people who are more moderate, since the people from their district or state are overwhelmingly Republican or Democrat

[@coltmartin152]

Saying that progressive policies are unpopular is simply untrue

[@analcommando1124]

Its Matty Yglesias. The guy is the biggest centrist/Hillary lover on the planet.

[@chaigreen8500]

It is unpopular on the National level. Are *some* progressive policies more popular than given credit for by Pundits? Absolutely. But as a whole, Progressive Candidates are very hard for this Country to get behind considering it's history as a centre Right leaning Nation. Even Presidents like FDR or Teddy Roosevelt who were titans of Progressive policy of their time, are still at least Centre right by Worldwide standards. At best.

[@coltmartin152]

@@chaigreen8500 during their times they were bit Center Right

[@DFaustJr]

Issue by issue this country is center-left. The Democratic party has been center right while the Republicans are far right. So the Democrat's strategy to move to the left with gain them more votes.

[@BollocksUtwat]

At least you get it. America's two parties don't actually represent a majority of its population's values.

[@doesitmatter94]

+Corey Messick Left = progressive, right = conservative

[@BollocksUtwat]

Ignorant Slut America doesn't have a left wing party, just a moderate wing of the business party.

[@doesitmatter94]

BollocksUtwat Yes, I absolutely agree with that. I was explaining the meaning of left vs right for the gentleman above.

[@BollocksUtwat]

Ignorant Slut Ah, well you should probably indicate that in America the traditional definitions acknowledged throughout most of the world are not the same in America. Everything from _Liberal_ to _Libertarian_ mean different things, and whats left in America is probably centre right in Germany.

[@mojavelinux]

Goodbye Democrats. You had your chance with Bernie and you blew it by taking him for granted (and worse). I'm looking forward to the rise of the third parties like the Greens.

[@jrrtolkien440]

Hopefully not the liberals, since Gary Johnson is the dumbest man I've ever heard on TV.

[@nunyabizness3866]

They are a bunch of disorganized twits. Get them educated first.

[@MichaelFay63]

You can vote for Jerry White & Niles Niemuth of the Socialist Equality Party running for President and vice President repectively. Read The World Socialist Website. Better than silly greens!

[@antoniojonathan2092]

I like the Reds and Blues way more than the Greens

[@saltyginger3481]

i cant believe people still bring up bernie lol

[@martontichi8611]

Just no Trump that's all I ask Dear American People. I want to study there in peace, not hatred.

[@Dios7518]

stupid trump wants to make america safe and peaceful

[@tixeright9120]

If you are not crossing the boarder illegally, or picking a fight with a cop, you've got nothing to worry about.

[@lambertlum1087]

Trump respects merit. In business, Trump promotes people who display merit. Make sure your papers are in order, and you will be welcome to the US. Good luck with your studies.

[@solatorobo]

did anyone tell you that you look like Jimmy Neutron?

[@lambertlum1087]

Stop and frisk might be useful in some places, like say inner city Chicago where crime is rife. Not every place needs it. Also policing is a local policy, not national. Trump can opine, but ultimately, it's the local city government that decides.

[@midgebarker4022]

Both Major Parties may look they oppose one another on the surface but both are in Deep with the Corporate Interest. The Little Guy is Unrepresented in Secret. They will never say that. It would be A bad idea if they publicly said that.

[@_lithp]

This is great news. LOL Trump 2016

[@TheErfds123321]

Disappointing.

[@chlo6997]

Make racism great again!

[@tgcc24]

TRUMP TRAIN 2016

[@noThankyou-g5c]

js they do mention gerrymandering in the video

[@lonestr1]

why do you think half the country think he's racist?

[@franziro1]

btw the background song, was like i can feel that metal sound around my head

[@atorres5367]

I wouldn't call New York and California "nothing". Being two of the most powerful states in the country.

[@verfed]

They are losing tax-payers by the hundreds of thousands, moving to states with more economic freedom. Even if their population isn't receding, they're just poorer immigrants or high birth rates among the poor.

[@TheMrRedSir]

+verfed Agreed. California's anti-business legislature is only going to drive the middle-class out.

[@titolovely8237]

pure nonsense.

[@titolovely8237]

total nonsense. california is booming.

[@tixeright9120]

Sociologist have been charting the California and New York exodus to other conservative states or else foreign states for years now. California and New York have huge public debts, very large structural deficits, and are finding it hard to find ways to increase their critical infrastructure's population capacity, workers in those states suffer huge commute times as a result that steals on average two or more hours of each day in transit (time that could be spent with family, friends, or at work, or something else) both States risk insolvency if the exodus continues, and due to climate-change over-population and over-industrialization of Californian agriculture, they continue to deal with a long-drought. A drought which they are probably never going to make up for. New York is mostly only a powerhouse due to NYC which routinely has republican leaders, LOL.

[@belmarfilms]

This is the most compelling case for a multi-party system that I have ever seen.

[@TheEvilCommenter]

I love how they act like this is a bad thing lolol

[@Unb3arablePain]

IMO the Republican party is in a worse position. Half of them are staunch right social conservative christians and the other half are mostly just fiscally conservative only. The Moral rights want a nice, Christian nation and the fiscal rights want a small, unintrusive government. Both those ideologies are bascially competing with each other and each one just has to accept the other's wants in order to stay in power.

[@TrevorVaubel]

Sure, but they vote for each other. They don't care until they're in power.

[@philipmcniel4908]

It's true that the Republican party is a combination of two groups who want some of the same things for two different reasons: Christians and hard-knocks/social-Darwinist conservatives. However, the reason why Christians want a small, unintrusive government is that they see a powerful government as tending toward regulating their ability to live in accordance with their believes (e.g. on the issue of being forced to attend and serve at same-sex weddings, e.g. in the case of Elaine Photography). The Christians really don't want an overbearing religious government; they just want the government not to enforce a society in which everyone is expected to set their faith aside when they enter the public square. All desired regulations to the contrary are seen as advancing a cause in which government has a legitimate interest, and which does not only flow from their faith (e.g. abortion--it's not just people of faith who believe government should regulate murder).

[@Pinksugarelephant]

Fiscally conservative see their "not very oppressive" government as super oppressive.

[@philipmcniel4908]

Pinksugarelephant Compared to the tax % that we used to pay 100 years ago, and how much lower the bureaucratic barriers were to doing business and whatever else you wanted, I can see where they'd get the idea. Basically, the system we have right now is this: The Democrats want to act as the European governments do, and take half the people's money in taxes and use it to buy them stuff so that everyone has the same access to it (after skimming a lot off the top for themselves first, of course). The Republicans want to drop taxes so low that most of us could buy anything we need and just about anything we want, and voluntarily help each other obtain what they need. For now, we've reached a compromise: We have the high taxes (well, not quite as high as some European countries, but we're getting close to that neighborhood) and none of the benefits that Europeans get. The surplus money goes toward supporting the behemoth of our federal bureaucracy, supporting the care and feeding of 2.6 million employees, not counting independent contractors. We debate whether our government can and should tax us out of 2/3 of our income like Norway's, or whether we should go without being given stuff by the government, and have lots of money. We've compromised--higher taxes without the services!

[@BeastinlosersHD]

The problem is, America needs more bureaucrats (not a more intrusive government, but we have lots of land, people, and resources that need to be managed). We have roughly reached a decent balance there, but some Americans don't want to participate in the work force. In my opinion the best social aid you could provide citizens, is the ability to find a job they want to do (for example the people who want to be NASA scientists, and truly are smart) should get money for college, in turn for a certain number of years working at NASA (like ROTC).

[@Someone-vj4gn]

2018 midterms. Oh, how the tables turned

[@vurcelum6424]

They called it.

[@eemmee414]

This video didn't age well........

[@thebanditgaming4884]

That's what I came to the comments for

[@somerandomasshole4561]

It aged really well, actually. The video points out how the Democratic Party, regardless of how the 2016 Election would go, would be in big trouble even after the election. It basically predicted the factors that would lead to Dem losses in the future, but those factors actually turned out to be even bigger than Vox predicted, so big that they got Trump elected.

[@lucasalvimpereiramotta9448]

Watching in 2020, they still didn't learn

[@marcusarelius]

You lost me at "and while Hillary is likely to win"...

[@pandaiscracked]

Charlie Baker in Massachusetts is definitely more Democrat than Republican he agreed to legalize weed.

[@lucasanderson3008]

1:01 so Virginia doesn’t exist anymore?

[@imbored2006]

Lol

[@andrewhey5720]

"Democrats should ignore the progressive" Sure, that'll help you win.

[@emperorpalpatine2531]

No, we should. Especially now. They can maybe win the presidency, but not on local levels People like you need to realize that the Democratic Party stretches from far left to somewhat conservative. Meaning that congressmen and women who represent New York should easily be the most liberal members of congress. But, someone who represents Louisiana, West Virginia, and Montana should be more conservative, if you want to see democrats at most have a 4 vote majority in either chamber.

[@lamaripiazza5226]

No we should be more progressive cuz the majority of America support progressive ideas like Medicare for all.

[@connor9568]

@@lamaripiazza5226 no

[@lamaripiazza5226]

@@connor9568 yes

[@budomk9299]

@@connor9568 yes, many progressive ideas are supported by a majority of both the left and the right. The right is just good at fear mongering with words like socialism, and people on the left are afraid of that.

[@ARP2wefightforyou]

2:40 Trump actually helped many Republican incumbents keep their seats.

[@jojoyayathereal]

Both candidates are bad

[@azzym8794]

*Very intelligent analysis. It was surprisingly prescient*

[@millennialfalcon8958]

Haunting to watch in 2020

[@jakedifatta]

That's what I like to hear

[@tynoguchi7450]

Less government less problems.

[@777DrFeelgood777]

Oh that’s cute, you think Republicans mean less government.

[@tynoguchi7450]

No, by eliminating the democrats, whose entire ideological basis is the increased government, there would have less government than there wuld be with the government. Unlike the democrats, the Republicans allow for more intellectual diversity, just look at the conflict between the neo cons and paleo cons.

[@777DrFeelgood777]

Ty Noguchi You’re just trading one form of big government for another. The Rand Paul types are vastly outnumbered by the moral policing types like Huckabee and Pence and the warmongering types like Lindsey Graham. The Republican party loves beating the drum of small government but they aren’t small government in practice. As far as "intellectual diversity" goes there’s inter-party conflict on both sides- I mean Sanders and Warren are very different Democrats than Obama and Hillary for example.

[@tynoguchi7450]

1) No entirely, sure there would be increase in spending in certain sections (military and business bail outs) of the government under a republican government, but with democrats i is completely across the broad (social programs, which combined is more than the entire military industrial complex). 2)You prove my point there, that there is more ideological diversity on the right, if you dislike them, well they have been elected by fellow Americans. 3) See point 1. 4) Sure there 'diversity' on the left but to the extent of the right in fact here are the 14 groups of the right: 1. The Alt Right 2. Paleo-cons 3. Neo-cons 4. Uptown Black cons 5. Downtown Black cons 6. Outcasts 7. Broadcast patriots 8. 'Islamaphobes' 9. Notional Review (monocle wearing elites) 10. Cruz cons/Never Trump 11. Trump cons 12. Factual Feminists 13. Free Speechers 14. Libertarians (right leaning)

[@Mauricio-lr9yd]

This video did not age well

[@aryan_kumar]

Why did I get this in my recommended today?

[@chknrsandTBBTROX73]

I think you messed up the title... It should be 'ESPECIALLY if Hillary wins'

[@jsheridan11]

This comment didn't age quite so well

[@chknrsandTBBTROX73]

@@jsheridan11 why not

[@HelloMyNamelsBanana]

I know democrats always say "I'm gonna move to Canada" in a not so serious way, but I am thinking that many I might REALLY consider it now ... :S

[@andyofzz]

Hi from Montreal, winter is coming, can you handle -30℃?

[@HelloMyNamelsBanana]

andyofzz LMAO that was what I was scared of because I'm from California XD

[@andyofzz]

HelloMyNamelsBanana lol I'd take Hillary or Trump over crazy winter

[@starwarsjk99]

Are you taking into account the exchange rate? Canadian Dollar does not equal USD

[@patriotictoast8539]

HelloMyNamelsBanana see ya

[@damianmartinez1296]

all the dislikes on this video are because you like hillary

[@zeroxfirestorm4822]

Ducky we need trump

[@sh1pme2themune9]

ecks dee, m80

[@JohnDoe-rw4hl]

No, it's because he said ". . . policies that are more left-wing aren't likely to help Democrats win the House or win in states," and blamed Democrats' peril on Bernie f-cking Sanders.

[@damianmartinez1296]

omg 1 lie????!!! wow thats so equal to how many hillary has told

[@fluffybeat7775]

Damian Martinez shut up are you like trump

[@RodrigoroRex]

Mr. Filch from Barry Potter "Oh Boy, are we in trouble..."

[@MgoRavenSama]

Hillary for prison

[@JRCody-ds3ec]

Something that might be controversial. . . Donald Trump is the best thing to happen to the Progressive movement. There have been individual progressive movements on the rise in the past decade or two-Occupy Wall Street, Black Lives Matter, Me Too-but these movements didn't really join together until after Trump was elected and now for the first time since the early 20th century, a genuine organized progressive movement is gaining traction nationwide.

[@elevenvolt1]

I actually agree. There's a graph that shows that America's political sentiment has never been more progressive, and Trump is likely to thank.

[@ilikecheese7348]

I won

[@knockoutfever4]

congrats on the next 8 years... or 12 years if Keith Ellison becomes the DNC chair.

[@azhiriviolet8710]

knockoutfever4 H became Chair....

[@tomlubbers4165]

this video definitely aged well

[@vincentcohen5543]

NOOOOOO DON'T GO RED GUYS!!!! TRUST ME IT HAPPENED TO WHERE I CAME FROM AND ITS NOT A PRETTY PLACE!!!!

[@daviddonker3387]

people will try to sugarcoat socialism to make it look good.

[@NoQuestions4sked]

David Donker For me, social issues are more important than economic ones simply because both sides of the economic spectrum have merit. One thing I cannot abide by is the growing sentiment of America-hating within the USA itself, pussification of the American man, and the subversion of the American identity/nationality.

[@garr123]

Yes, the surefire way to stop America from hating itself is to elect a former reality star who seems to be in love with the Kremlin.

[@NoQuestions4sked]

ITALIAN GUY It's worked thus far. Better the devil you know than the devil you don't. And don't give me that "NO IT DOESN'T WORK" bullshit. It does, the US hasn't collapsed yet, but it will due in part to people like you, that seek to change and walk all over everything.

[@davidclarke2505]

Go red or gtfa

[@tarielkaroldan4106]

The fact that Democrats are still in trouble speaks volume about the inability of the party to steer itself properly, and the inefficiency of its leaders

[@keith4886]

And that is the undeniable truth.

[@timruegg5850]

Greetings from 2020

[@HowdyDany]

Its a cycle, it can shift and change according to the people need.

[@ChecedDomingcil]

Good thing I live in Hawaii

[@furgie5338]

Oh how wrong you were 🤭

[@seemoree]

0:08 look at the woman talking a vid with her phone XD

[@bigchunk1]

Hold strong boys. She's only got 4 years.

[@theangryhorsecommenter2432]

Umm... remember Obama? Double win.

[@reallauradee]

And then she lost 😁

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

@Laura Dee than Democrats won the house 😁

[@Snazzeo]

Here three years later; Trump winning was actually good for Dems. We’ve needed to actually re-evaluate, and we’re stronger than we were almost all of the 2010s, and in 2020, we’re gonna win big.

[@wkqdehhvkhhh545]

Snazzeo I’ll come back to this after the election, see if your right

[@corbinvickers9993]

Definitely big improvements on local and state levels, but in the primaries dems have learned nothing. Our prime candidates are too old and not capable of running the country. Someone more calm, centered and smart like amy klobochar should’ve been nominated

[@thebanditgaming4884]

@@lking1540 Imagine if we could make them bet??? Put your money where ya mouths at

[@breakfastcasual7800]

Everyone write in Michelle Obama. She wont like it but we can force her hand. OK?

[@chill3n456]

Unfortunately, writing in is not supported in many states. Most states require you pick a party before or at the voting box, and may only recognize candidates on the ballots. It is your right to write in a candidate that may not be on the ballot, but the state may not be required to count it, resulting in a wasted vote. Please, use your vote wisely. Check your states rules if you are set on writing someone in.

[@AnonP2X3YZ]

*Michael Obama

[@lolYT69]

No, she would be an awful president. That's a terrible idea and you should be embarrassed.

[@ambevv8204]

its rigged anyways

[@WindmillChef]

Great Piece. Facts and perspectives that few people are focusing on at the moment because we are so involved and captured with the top of the ticket elections.

[@kazuhirala]

We shouldve went with the socialist

[@bdeemter1234]

The Stock market is at an all time high, jobs are coming back, we are cracking down on illegal immigration......... tell me why trump is bad again?? who's here in 2018?

[@Niko-ri4rs]

Exposed Motion Cinematics your so dumb

[@bdeemter1234]

Urban Beekeeping don’t forget to give that extra tax money back to the government that Trump got you, that is even if you have a job.

[@bdeemter1234]

Urban Beekeeping Just keep ignoring facts see where that gets you.

[@bdeemter1234]

you're*

[@vinbinjil]

uh... tariffs?

[@saberline152]

what is wrong with a little bit of socialism? not that america doesn't need it right, right

[@lostinYourReality]

Socialism works better in smaller countries with a smaller population.

[@BollocksUtwat]

That makes no sense at all.

[@TheUnknownAlly]

That's exactly what I was about to say. Just do in the same ratio what is done in the smaller countries to a larger country and you can get the same result. Dumb argument.

[@thomasanderson8000]

like in cuba or venezuela

[@BollocksUtwat]

Thomas Anderson Try France or Sweden or Norway or Finland or many other European countries, ones without mass starvation and a healthy capitalist economy.

[@thomassheldon2132]

This is truly brilliant journalism