DEMOLISHING Ben Shapiro's Sad Attempt to Debunk Systemic Racism

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#BenShapiro

[@mikebiggums1921]

Video: "Jamal's grandparents were discriminated against because of redlining" Ben Shapiro: "But redlining was made illegal 50 years ago" THAT'S WHY THEY SAID JAMAL'S GRANDPARENTS, BEN!

[@madshermansen3221]

@@eh2247 You're saying redlining is happening? Then you're fucking clueless lol

[@Nyanx4]

_snorts_ Jesus there was no comprehension there lol Also, side-point... Wasn't this was an edited video? Why didn't they edit that easy fuck-up out? Like, why'd they keep that in it just makes him look even more like an idiot

[@trashrabbit69]

Ben "you don't have to be poor if your parents are poor" Shapiro

[@Fire-dk6ud]

You don’t. It’s not impossible to go from poverty to wealthy.

[@trashrabbit69]

@@Fire-dk6ud 🦋you're🦋missing🦋the🦋point It is extremely rare to get the stereotypical rags to riches story. Upwards class mobility requires a very particular set of circumstances that most often are not met.

[@Kaijutopia]

Ben Shapiro: "California sucks. I hate living here!" Also Ben Shapiro: "If poor people hate where they live they can just move." EDIT: Yes, I know the multimillionaire Ben Shapiro finally moved. But poor people can't just up and go like he seems to think, which was the point. Carry on.

[@RemixedVoice]

Ben Shapiro is literally a failed screenwriter. He is 100% a grifter. Some people value money more than having authentic principles.

[@jaws3772]

"California sucks! It's full of stupid celebrities always giving us their opinions. Stay out of politics celebrities!!!!" "The Terminator is governor of California?!?!? This is awesome!!!"

[@johngr1747]

@@RemixedVoice he is a grifter but he does boast a large amount of the shit ideology he represents.

[@CorporateShill66]

This is peak grifter. He clearly doesn’t hate living there. It’s one of the best places on Earth

[@starmaker75]

Right winger: if you don’t like poverty so munch why don’t you move Poor people: alright I move to Texas or something like and Ring wing:NOOOOOOo!!!

[@officialasa]

Ben “You can discriminate against black people as long as you say it’s because of social class” Shapiro

[@bastionoffact7131]

LOL

[@mt-zf6xp]

It's funny because it's how he thinks, and there's literally nothing to justify that line of thinking..

[@darkfluid5004]

Asa “Just one small problem, When it’s right to treat people like that”

[@commissarklink6060]

Get a job and pull yourself up by your bootstraps peasant

[@siouxsieslime2985]

@@commissarklink6060 amen

[@jaoism]

"historically black last names," slaves used their owners last names 😒 my grandpa changed his because he remembers the pain his parents and grandparents went through

[@anthonynorman7545]

I was thinking the same thing

[@Mae_Dastardly]

Someone needs to put all of us in a room with ben shapiro

[@ella-ti4eh]

right i was waiting for him to point out that a lot of slave’s didn’t have that choice during slavery either they’d get their slave owners last names and not their own. that’s why now there are a lot of black families with johnson or smith as the last name. first names are more commonly what black people have kept through generations of living in American.

[@TysonRex37]

The names he used were Washington and Jefferson even! Names most Americans would immediately *associate with its founders!*

[@signodeinterrogacion8361]

@@MahouShoujo-Studios Cool, do you know which ethnicity you came from?

[@gigifabulous]

Ben Shapiro is the guy to go "What do you mean you've been stabbed? That's illegal, people can't do that. You're lying."

[@user-sf9gs2pg1b]

That reminds me of what an innocent child would say, lol.

[@cptdarth5807]

What do you mean you've been shot? That's illegal, we banned guns.

[@jmiddleton7518]

Cptdarth What

[@rinelenny4946]

@@cptdarth5807 BASED

[@OpusTheLeftie]

@@rinelenny4946 Nonsense*

[@jesusfingers8961]

Ben “If you’re poor then stop being poor” Shapiro

[@zev8449]

henry stevens you just solved it wow i’m so glad i met the man who solved inequality in a youtube comment section

[@quorryraphael9980]

@@zev8449 idk dude he has a point. People who aren't poor aren't poor.

[@ED-fq3xw]

This is factually correct

[@ultimatequeenofdeath666]

and if youre homeless just buy a house

[@ultimatequeenofdeath666]

and if you are depressed, just be happy

[@bobriley000444]

Ben: Discriminating against common black names is not racist it's actually just assuming class.... so, it's racist?

[@gottakeepaneyeout4slenerr591]

If social class is embedded in you then how come some so called poor people become business men/ women?

[@masahirotadashi2579]

„Culturalism“ is part of or used synonymously for racism btw. Same for group based discrimination. If you say „fuck the Armenians“ or „fuck the Italians“ nobody gives a shit if Armenians or Italians aren’t rly a race, it’s labeled as racism. You are also this close from understanding the issue. If most blacks are lower class, and ppl don’t like lower class, then they can just use the blackness to rule lower class out (it doesn’t work with whites). As a result, blacks will continue to remain lower class for even longer since theyre more often rejected. It doesn’t matter if the black guy is really rly poor or not. Seeing him will refer to = poor or poorer than his white counterpart. This is racism. That’s why comments like „ur rich for a black person“ are racist. They reproduce a social hierarchy and tie it to a skin color

[@QuesoGr7]

@@frbe0101 The problem isn't that classism is "A-Ok" but people forget that it's a thing and only focus on the race part. There are many things in this country that affects more than us black folk but the popular belief is that it only affects us. Remember, even back before the Civil War some blacks owned land with slaves, and lived better than a lot of white southerners. Race plays a part but a lot of the times that's not the whole story.

[@katielest7529]

The White Table racism isn’t just saying I don’t like poc. Assuming someone’s race and economic status by their name is racist. Studies have been done on job call backs using white names vs black sounding names. If you hear someone’s name and assume that they belong to blank culture (which assuming the culture of black people is poor is racist) and that affects how you treat them that’s racist.

[@katielest7529]

Gotta keep an eye out 4 Slenerr you can’t pick one outlier from the average. That’s does nothing when you compare the numbers.

[@taramarie128]

ben's solution to school districts: just move ben's solution to climate change: just move

[@common_undead]

Yeah, and yet he opposed movement in and out of countries (immigration) loll

[@Doinklez]

Prashant Wason you do know he was insinuating illegal immigration right? I’m heavily against illegal immigration myself there are an abundance of problems with it. Amnesty is definitely not the answer for illegal immigration I’m sorry.

[@poisonsumac2944]

My solution to ben: just move into a volcano

[@3ball260]

@ii a Really??

[@daniellewis1254]

Ben's solution to migrants leaving crappy countries: "just mov...... uhhh...."

[@idonotmakevidsyet]

Ben literally uses the "just move" argument if you're in a poor neighbourhood.

[@kawtartahaoui6569]

"If you're homeless buy a house"

[@Shnitzelpuff]

It’s like when people complain about how much minimum wage sucks and everyone just tells them “get a better job lol” like the job market doesn’t suck (not to mention the fact that if every minimum wage worker quit there goes grocery store workers, gas station workers, fast food, and pretty much every job that matters to most people’s everyday life)

[@cantiboy6857]

“If you’re poor, just work harder”

[@naiveandjaded]

i sorta could understand his arguments disregarding him being *wrong* but that’s beyond even argument like WHAT DOES IT MEAN ??????????????

[@juliannabanfe5595]

they literally can't. that's why theyre called POOR neighborhoods.

[@karlee8952]

Ben “oh you’re homeless? just buy a house” Shapiro

[@VMohdude-]

henry stevens big brain

[@OneEyeShadow]

"Sounds like a You-Problem"

[@Fralab26]

4head

[@NA-AN]

@henry stevens Whoa hot take there!

[@nathanelfamy4190]

No, first, get a work.

[@travishimebaugh8381]

"When you look at black people who adopted traditionally white names generations ago, this problem disappears!" Thanks for providing supporting evidence, Ben

[@Darkpara1]

They actually tried doing blind applications in the Australian civil service a couple of years back, applicants for jobs were given numbers, no face to face or phone interviews, it actually reduced diversity.

[@samanthagm2328]

Chris Lucas Oxford University did it in England and it showed ‘Asian’ names and ‘Nigerian’ names were less likely to be picked. It’s apparently something that varies between countries but it doesn’t invalidate American and English reality 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@travishimebaugh8381]

@@Darkpara1 I don't doubt it. Accents and linguistic quirks affect how you perceive someone's mental capabilities too.

[@yedid2586]

Chris Lucas That was related to decrease in Gender, not race. It has also been studied anglicised names are more likely to receive responses.

[@Darkpara1]

@@yedid2586 gender there was a reduction, racial demographics no significant change, if I recall.

[@henryramos3416]

So Bens logic is "just name your kids white names to avoid racism" Yes Ben, thank you for proving racism still exists in the hiring process

[@jefrreyjeffery2192]

There are no "WHITE NAMES"😭😭😭😭

[@henryramos3416]

@@jefrreyjeffery2192 i dont think thats true buddy

[@jefrreyjeffery2192]

@@henryramos3416 what is white name? Do you mean English name? I'm pretty sure Eastern European or Nordic names would be wierd to English speaking Americans

[@henryramos3416]

@@jefrreyjeffery2192 i dont think names like sven, ivan, dimitri or yiannis are the ones that people see on resumes and discriminate against. They arent typical white names but the idea is that when people see these names on a resume, they think of a white person. Thats the whole point of the topic. People see a name and envision the persons ethnicity based on said name, so thier biases both concious and unconcious take effect

[@scoopy5739]

@@henryramos3416 ngl bro I would discriminate against a Sven in the hiring process

[@kittykittyredcat]

22:25 - 23:03 in the immortal words of Malcolm X, "If you stick a knife in my back 9 inches and pull it out 6 inches, that's not progress. The progress comes from healing the wound that the blow made. They haven't begun to pull the knife out... They won't even admit the knife is there."

[@andrewgallagher7690]

@james stpatrick No we aren’t.

[@kittykittyredcat]

james stpatrick Obama is a politician, Malcolm is an activist. We have made progress but it’s not even close to “tremendous”.

[@raiorai2]

Yes, we have made progress and that is great. Nobody is saying 2020's racism is the same as 1970's, 1850's or 1600's. However, believe that we are "90% of the way" is an exageration! I'd say it's optimistic to consider we are halfway there.

[@suzimonkey345]

From slavery, brutal acts of public violence, segregation too a black family in the White House in such a short time is extraordinary progress!! A significant percentage of the USA’s people are now actively “ANTI-Racist”, that’s an amazing achievement! America isn’t all bad. It seems like Americans have over-corrected...Growing-up in 1980’s England we saw ‘Reagan’s Americans’ as loud, flag waving & arrogant, now ‘Trumps Americans’ appear self loathing & depressed. 🤕 Peer pressure wields so much power. It’s tragic that America has divided & attacked its self at this time in liberal progress. The real differences between the U.K. & the USA really shocked me, particularly when it comes to race. I moved to America just in time to watch the first Bush vs Gore debate & returned home the winter Trump had been elected...

[@justintimefordinner4902]

@David shapiro how come illiteracy rates are worse than when we came out of slavery?

[@jaredrichards8755]

Ben “How can I be transphobic when I’m not afraid of transgender people?” Shapiro

[@motorcycleman115]

Back when I was a shithead lib, I actually made that argument but for homophobia. I can’t lie though, “homophobia” or “transphobia” or whatever should not have a suffix that implies fear if it’s not about fear.

[@yazanhussam8182]

@@janusgahrstre1998 the word phobia means illogical fear, so by definition he's not actually wrong :/

[@ismetalikk]

funny how nickvideos (the tiktok kid) also said the same thing... i swear, nick is 100% a ben shapiro worshipper

[@herberthgonzalez8947]

Janus gahr støre Phobic also means a strong dislike for something too, use your damn head.

[@user-vk3uz3ml6t]

@@janusgahrstre1998 "Who actually look the part." What? Why does it matter? Will he not talk with people who don't put in immense effort and undergo surgery because they "don't look the part?" Also, the argument on "phobia" and "illogical fear" is completely semantics and it holds no value.

[@astrocade9541]

Ben is a “before the shower debator.” Meaning he is really good at being clear and concise with his bs, making surface level arguments seem factual so that u feel like u lost. Then when u take your shower you think of all the really simple comebacks you could have made in the moment.

[@dpz4341]

then you think again and feel so glad you didn't as it would have exposed your profound ignorance and made you a clip in a compilation video

[@eagerinspirit]

@@dpz4341 nah

[@MrEvldreamr]

@@dpz4341 ben shapiro isnt that smart my guy, he tells fast, strawman opinions, and throw red herrings to get the crowd to laugh

[@queenapryllm8454]

Exactly when I heard his argument in. Regards his gay marriage, I was like wait a second doesn't make sense

[@kodidelaney9608]

The reason that those housing discrimination acts don't work is because even if i couldn't refuse you a loan based on your race, I can refuse you a home based on income. So black people who have always been poor can't buy a house or get a loan still, because underwriters don't believe they can afford them and applications are declined. Then, in desperation many will get with predatory loan companies and end up even more in debt and have their credit rating drop because of the high interest rates and high payments.

[@rhatmakesvideos]

Ben “If you’re drowning just drink the water” Shapiro

[@michellemedina3763]

Wap

[@Principezone]

Just move out of the water

[@ABCodeX]

@@Principezone Don’t forget to sell your house

[@z-money7281]

Literally all vaush said for an hour was disparities=racism and you all ate it up lmao.

[@michellemedina3763]

@@z-money7281 its only bad and accurate when the victims are white. Sorry I forgot.

[@charlieoshea931]

Ben Shapiro also said that rap wasn't music just to discredit black culture. He's such a clown.

[@Fire-dk6ud]

So only black people can rap?

[@siouxsieslime2985]

@@Fire-dk6ud racist lol

[@videogamenostalgia]

Reminds me of the time Dinesh D'Souza said Barack Obama was "ghetto" lmao

[@arthurkirkland2898]

@Deus of Gods You know Mozart literally composed a piece called "Leck Mich im Arsch" which translates to "Lick my Ass," right? He had a notorious obsession with scat and butts. But sure, shit on rap and modern music, despite the fact that dirty songs and innuendos are not new. I guarantee the genres you listen to has songs like this as well.

[@skippykay599]

Deus of Gods you clearly haven’t listened to enough rap

[@moonhaze7389]

I am not an expert or something, but something tells me that Ben Shapiro is not as clever as he thinks he is 🤔

[@themonroe654hd6]

That's what happens when you speak at 300 words a second and only actually debate college kids.

[@ruby-cc4ds]

he only looks smart because he pounces on unprepared unsuspecting college teens. if he was to have a debate with Vaush he would be obliterated

[@moonhaze7389]

@@ruby-cc4ds I think debating with Ben Shapiro would be as painful as debating Actual Justice Warrior: pointless and painful, because both of them (BS and AJW) are dumb as rocks

[@dynamicworlds1]

@Tragic Hero to be fair, actually smart people tend to think they're not as smart as they actually are.

[@lane3574]

Don't worry his wife is a doctor

[@yougonedunit4115]

I remember being a conservative Christian and believing Ben Shapiro was an intellectual. Bad times.

[@12bucklemysh0e]

same, good thing I learned to assess things and develop my own opinions.

[@wolfernater]

Welcome to the light buddy

[@madshermansen3221]

I remember being a kid in Denmark being indoctrinated by leftist primary school teachers to think that the democrats were the "good ones" and republicans were the "bad ones". Bad times.

[@kylemaljevac5482]

I remember being in my reactionary phase in my late teens thinking Ben was a intellectual as well. Glad I think he’s a dumb fuck now, cause he is. Lmao

[@madshermansen3221]

@@jmayo7921 Ah, good logic. My politics are right!

[@nckhy94]

Ben uses the “if someone is trying to rob you just tell them no, robbery is illegal” logic when he says “redlining was outlawed 50 years ago”

[@jamesnajvar2843]

No. What? Redlining doesnt happen. You're not making sense

[@tundrance]

@@jamesnajvar2843 just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it never happens. stop being ignorant.

[@tundrance]

@@jamesnajvar2843 redlining is illegal but it has still seriously affected black neighbourhoods and families. did you even watch the video?

[@SourceCod33]

@@tundrance pssst he’s joking

[@tundrance]

@@SourceCod33 oh, sorry. i don't really understand sarcasm through the internet :// i've seen a lot of comments like that from republicans on here that are actually serious so it's not that obvious

[@tiborklein5349]

Ben "starving people should just go and eat something smh" Shapiro

[@Racquelle40]

That and his constant straw man arguments

What does that have anything to do with race? So black = poor? You're the racist

[@spazzymcgee1416]

@ found the chud

[@Lily-vv9yy]

Gameboy did you watch the video? that was the whole topic...i swear people like you don’t even care to learn lol

[@devs3720]

Gameboy How’s it feel to destroy your own argument in the same fucking sentence?

[@randominternetguy1499]

Vaush helped me learn more about systemic racism so I can have better arguments against my conservative friends and family in this debate.

[@dynamicworlds1]

That right there is one of the main goals of this channel.

[@Greyz174]

Also destiny got destroyed

[@samueltakata7153]

@@Greyz174 What happened?

[@meredithgrace2292]

i live in the south so a lot of ppl think like shapiro, i also watch these videos to argue with ppl where i live

[@randominternetguy1499]

Greyz174 TRUE!

[@bbqseitan7106]

Don’t get it twisted Ben Shapiro understands Systemic Racism But only for HIS people Everyone else is just a bad decision maker

[@leahmzee5290]

Jews are the most persecuted in the USA tho hahaha and world? Lol not black people 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

[@jvniprbrry]

@@leahmzee5290 [Citation Needed]

[@vhalrougelarfouxe]

@@jvniprbrry I once read that no country except for Philippines took in Jewish refugees after the WW2. I can believe that Jewish are oppressed people.

[@Darkpara1]

scoot the burbs Jews were historically hated throughout the world, in Europe for example, they were routinely blamed for things like plagues, or murders, and often many were killed in retribution, they were often forced to only perform certain jobs by law, money lenders, jewelers etc. it goes back to early Christianity, and only really changed post WW2.

[@tristanjohnson4651]

Chris Lucas oh, yea, and black people weren’t enslaved for hundreds and years and systematically oppressed globally as well? Lets not compare atrocities and forget the pain experienced in both. Clear ignorance and lack of human interaction shows in your sentiment. Seriously, look up the term empathy.

[@rainbowmelody4393]

He’s literally those tiktok videos skdkdhdsk “if America racist, why black president once? Hmmm?”

[@sohibmohamed9548]

so people should elect more black people just for the sake of it? yay black president

[@rainbowmelody4393]

@@sohibmohamed9548 not related to anything I was saying in the comment but now that you bring it up, it’s not for the sake of it. Over 30% of the US’s population is not white yet you’ve had one POC as president. Why wouldn’t more black people be elected? It makes demographic sense, let alone political sense 🤷‍♀️

[@Sovietube]

@@sohibmohamed9548 when did he say that?

[@Sovietube]

@@sohibmohamed9548 like, how many times were you dropped

[@ambulantgaming8483]

@@rainbowmelody4393 maybe bc up until the 60s or 70s there were major restrictions on black ppl 🙃

[@DivineVTDragon]

Ben Shapooro: "You're poor? Why don't you buy more money?"

[@jaysmith3448]

Lol!

[@hemantkarasala5767]

@Jimb0 More over, the market is limited, and you cut into each others trade, so its literally impossible for everyone to be an entrepreneur, and not to mention the access to capital is skewed towards those who already have and handle capital.

[@keeganb9477]

Not what he said, go back to school so you can understand English.

[@somagical2696]

🤣😭

[@katielest7529]

Keegan Beaver yes that is. It is IMPOSSIBLE to do what he said could happen. It’s ligit can’t. Maybe go back to school and learn how numbers work

[@Alex-cw3rz]

Black names like washington and Jefferson 🤦‍♂️ Had Ben just watched Hamilton or something. What's next the traditional black name of Lafayette.

[@x999uuu1]

I mean they are in some degrees.... but for unfortunate reasons

[@controllerfreak78]

Richard Crawford dude don’t be stupid, I face discrimination every day because of my black sounding last name “white”

[@masked-feraligatr1094]

We say no to pay to win Come on. Be real. Ben hates rap, so he hates Hamilton.

[@user-vk3uz3ml6t]

Actually, it does make sense to a degree. Slaves would often get their last name replaced and slave owners would pick something generic like a president's name.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

@@user-vk3uz3ml6t but it doesn't because implicate biases are visceral reactions meaning it would be one of the first things that pops into your head which is "presidents" and maybe "Jefferson Airplane". Not "it could be a family decended of slave and the slave master gave them this last name", even more of a stretch when the names are Ryan and Chloe on top.

[@grace-gr3vr]

Ben "if the climate is changing and water rises 10 feet, people will just sell their houses to Aquaman" Shapiro

[@eiyukabe]

Which is silly, because everyone knows Aquaman is one of the lesser paid super heroes and can't afford more than maybe 5 or 6 houses.

[@David-qq9bk]

J the thing is that the vast majority of asians (chinese, japanese, indian and even middle eastern) need to have wealth at least to get plane tickets and start a new life in a foreign country. people under the poverty line usually have no way to do that, so the vast majority of asians living in the US were not poor. that’s not the case with african americans

[@Michaeltsui1189]

@@user-gc1wj8tt2p If you're broke you probably couldn't afford the money to do the paper work in the first place to immigrate here. Lets be real. I m Asian and I can testify I don't know any poor Asian people, see what I did there? Two people can play that game.

[@dankhill6851]

@@David-qq9bk Isn't china communist...? I learned in high school that in communism everybody makes the same amount of money, nobodies wealthy

[@klarisdavis5486]

@@dankhill6851... are you serious?

[@franciscorendon2783]

"If your grandparents were slaves, it don't matter, just work hard lol"

[@sohibmohamed9548]

is that wrong?

[@Ivan-mu8di]

@@sohibmohamed9548 😐😐😐

[@sohibmohamed9548]

@@Ivan-mu8di ??

[@tobiaseliot4716]

@@sohibmohamed9548 if your legs were smashed at the starting line of a race, just run faster lol 😆

[@ernestwilliams6123]

@@tobiaseliot4716 LOL exactly make it make sense

[@aureya3795]

i honestly ship Ben Shapiro and logical fallacies. they just go so well together

[@existenceispain4333]

I could do an entire English project on Ben Shapiro’s logical fallacies 😭

[@existenceispain4333]

In fact I used one of his videos to practice for a test on logical fallacies.

[@Mothmaninist]

It’s nice to know romance isn’t dead

[@mrpepsi3462]

J It not individual it percentage and ratio not just you never doesn’t mean everyone go look at percentages and ratio he right more Asian come here wealthy or middle almost never poor

[@fluffyRabbit01]

@@user-gc1wj8tt2p he didn't say every Asian. He said, a lot of Asians who are Chinese and wealthy. He didn't even imply that every Asian that came to America was/is Chinese nor did he imply that they are rich. He basically said a lot of Asian who came to America happened to be Chinese and wealthy.

[@klip8726]

If you build a strawman and knock it down while literally restating the argument of the video, anything is possible.

[@ScotisticDad]

Huh?

[@fa2lemuelm2]

@@ScotisticDad it means you present a skewed argument point B (usually away from point A, rather than actually related) and then take down point B using your defense against point A. It makes you sound technically right, but is actually deceiving.

[@notmee2388]

And the $50 million dollar question: to which of the two people in the video does this argument apply?

[@blackarchon8778]

@@fa2lemuelm2 we know but who were you referring to?

[@alex_roivas333]

i find it hilarious how he's just like "it's not racism it's classism" as if that makes it soooooooo much better. this is how the twin demons of capitalism and racism re-enforce each other. Ben: "the problem isn't race it's poverty" everyone: "we'll, then let's fix poverty" Ben: "the problem isn't poverty, it's black culture"

[@LordsofMedia]

Keep kneeling.

[@jonathonmills6775]

Ben is right, and there are too many statistics that prove it has to do a lot with culture.

[@alex_roivas333]

@@jonathonmills6775 do you not see the contradiction in what he's saying? lol

[@erboch7124]

@@jonathonmills6775 >legally keeps black people as an underclass for hundreds of years >outlaws the race aspect of it "Yeah bro it's totally just classism"

[@twojointsjay7330]

@ you didn't watch the whole video, did you?

[@paramike97]

How many conservatives does it take to change a light bulb? Trick question, they won't change it. They'll just tell you to move to another house

[@heelo734]

@@jak3358 Its a quote dummy

[@THE_CHOAS_ENGINE]

How many Liberals does it take to change a light bulb? Trick question, the light bulb doesn't need changing... They just think they need a fancy new LED one like their neighbor has and so they go over to the neighbor and complain to him and demand they buy them a new LED light.

[@bucketlist3727]

Or deny that it needs changing

[@chuckiejoseph4979]

🗿🗿🗿

[@polarknight5376]

@@THE_CHOAS_ENGINE well when the original bulb is producing ultraviolet light and giving people skin cancer, and the "fancy new LED" is more energy efficient, lasts longer, and is brighter, yeah, the "fancy new LED" sounds a bit better. But sure, your solution is to just move to a new house.

[@freakondabeach]

Ben Shapiro is so feels over reals.

[@johngr1747]

And poses as the opposite. But hey, he also poses as a liberitarian.

[@burcolclone8322]

Feelings don't care about your facts

[@iz2333]

@@johngr1747Libertarian Ben "I don't like the gays, we need a strong police force and establish religious morals" Shapeeno

[@thingswhynot]

Janus gahr støre lol weak

[@NA-AN]

@@janusgahrstre1998 What jargon is this.

[@Marcela-tx7gh]

Ben "If you don't want to be poor just become a doctor" Shapiro would advocate for "Just move, bro", wouldn't he? He must like being short, because if he didn't he would just grow six inches.

[@AdrianCelsiusTepes]

I mean his solution to ocean levels rising because of global warming is basically "people living in the cities at risk of being flooded should just sell their home and move". To whom you ask? Maybe the Innsmouth people or Atlanteans, he hasn’t been very clear about that part. Go figure.

[@Powersd451]

Did you know that he has almost literally said that? His reaction to the scientifically assessed threat of widespread floodings due to climate change was *literally* : "You think that people wouldn't just sell their house and move?" I'd comment, but Hbomberguy already made the perfect response: "Sell their houses to whom, Ben? Fucking Aquaman!?"

[@braydentobin5150]

Adrian Celsius Tepes to FUCKING AQUAMAN!

[@bluman6793]

It's easy to escape poverty though.

[@spottywolf]

Ben "If I talk fast enough no one can argue against me" Shapiro

[@TheYoungGun444]

He talks fast. He doesn't interrupt

[@salasyk8708]

@Cat Suppository give me an example

[@salasyk8708]

@Cat Suppository well if they really had a point in the first place, why not say it after he "interrupts"?

[@khill8645]

Pretty sure the only reason Duane Gish finally died was that Ben came of age, and there can be only one true master of the Gish Gallop alive at a time.

[@youwishbro7543]

hes like Tim pool

[@redmannarel9174]

Ben Shapiro: Oh you’re trapped in poverty because you were born and raised in a redlined area? Just buy a house in a higher class neighborhood. What do you mean you can’t afford it?

[@pvt.gaminggummybear6337]

Shoutout to all of the working class white and Asian women named “Laquesha”!

[@Darkpara1]

Pvt. GamingGummyBear they w ups to be working class If they were Asian, because despite not coming from family wealth, Asians always seem to succeed in our so called racist system.

[@jainabraina]

@@Darkpara1 because our immigration laws pretty much only allow extremely wealthy or talented Asians in - it's not like they accept random farmers, it's always the doctors, engineers, businesspeople.

[@Darkpara1]

@@jainabraina maybe now, but that was the case up until the 2000's really, where the Chinese rich kids really started to emerge, and our trade relations with China were good. Previously, it was a lot of Koreans that came over post reconstruction in the 50's, and 60's, when the Korean economy was garbage, they somehow managed to come over with nothing, work hard, and succeed.

[@Darkpara1]

@Carl Marccs not really much we can do about that is there? They may be spoiled brats, but they don't go around committing crimes.

[@princejaxisblack8789]

@@Darkpara1 Koreans were way discriminated against than black people. During the 50s and 60s segregation still so black people couldn't really work there way up. Notice how when later Southeastern Asians came they were forced into ghettos and basically blended in with hood culture for example gangs, there's quite a few Asian gangs in LA/Long Beach most notably the *Asian Boyz Crips*

[@luminarymani]

he preaches facts over feelings but when facts prove systemic racism exists that logic suddenly doesnt apply

[@jasonmatthews52]

You'll notice that from a lot of these so called "libertarians"

[@jakenbakin9086]

I love the Some More News episode about Shapiro, where Cody highlights how Shapiro constantly ignores facts in favor of his feelings.

[@gottakeepaneyeout4slenerr591]

He’s a hypocrite and can’t see past his own so called fan base

[@marcrow9114]

he fakes logic, but is way less logical than ppl give him credit for

[@fred5594]

Systematic Racism does exist. The welfare state has destroyed the black wealth in America. Throw in abortion, which has eliminated 20 million blacks and you can make a point. Just not the point you probably wanted to make lol.

[@noahalien4665]

Ben says “as early as 1960” as though that wasn’t a mere 60 years ago. He says it as though making redlining illegal 60 years ago suddenly makes everything go away. It makes me mad

[@HaiRune]

attackmaster555 He’s talking about the effects not the act

[@masahirotadashi2579]

Attackmaster. If you took the time to actually even read the Wikipedia article on redlining (it’s not that hard, is it?) or any social study on the subject you’d notice that the structures and effects of redlining are still there, and with very good reason: once a system has reached a critical mass, the stuctures will reproduce themselves. Anyone with more than a rudimentary understanding of sociology (to which I do not count Ben Shapiro or you) understands this, as examples of this can be seen all over the world, not just with black communities. East Germany has been poor since the fall of the wall, the phenomenon is examined since then and nothing has changed, zilch. Do you think they all haven’t been working hard enough or is it time for u to grasp that economic and social class systems essentially build upon nepotisms (again, the prevalent reproduces itself), like a normal human being who can google social science?

[@TadanGirl]

Cocain in your Coca-Cola also got abolished not long ago. You don’t think it’s effective? I don’t see a population of cocaine addicts even if those still exist.

[@TadanGirl]

attackmaster555 but I also don’t agree with you. It probably still happens, it’s just not on the systematic scale. Thank god it’s not legal, or the system would actually be involved and it would be segregation days all over again.

[@HaiRune]

attackmaster555 Did you even watch this video?

[@ilikekeylimepie4624]

"Ben Shapiro was a waste of a good twink" -someone on twitter Every time i see or hear him this is all i can think of now

[@ovinr3187]

now i will too

[@AnarchoPurp]

If Jamal and Kevin live in different neighborhoods and go to different schools, how come they know each other? LEFT WING OBLITERATED

[@poppaelias4175]

they play roblox together. BOOM, DEBUNKED.

[@nathanschmitz2302]

I saw them in the park, they met there when little mingle and play with each other. Now they go to the park after school and hang out while talking/doing homework. How dispicable.

[@AnarchoPurp]

I joke, but as a kid I actually had two friends like this. A white Jewish kid and a black kid lived literally across the street from each other but they went to different public schools.

[@6illyloomer955]

Maybe they met in college?

[@diegowushu]

"Ben Shapiro looks kinda cute here". Ok time to cancel him again.

[@LimeyLassen]

The quarantine has made us all desperate

[@mygoodladywife]

Why was he cancelled before?

[@Andioop69420]

Jayden Marshall he’s got a recent video on all his cancellations

[@fbedntjwsf4959]

Again?

[@ironcasm5406]

He’s gay

[@QosmicVoid]

Well I'm glad he's completely dropping the pretense and just admitting he's a racist and classist. That saves us some time.

[@bobrossslittlebitch8948]

You can’t just call anyone who’s in disbelief racist.... it doesn’t help anyone and polarizes you

[@siouxsieslime2985]

@@bobrossslittlebitch8948 ben shapiro is a racist tho your point is moot

[@adventuringwolf8517]

Bobross’s Littlebitch B-but Ben Shapiro bad, and racist, and fascist. I can hear Ben Shapiro’s followers being enlightened by our moral grand standing!

[@GameGod77]

@@adventuringwolf8517 Do I feel bad that a section of Ben's audience has fallen for propaganda? Yeah kind of. Is that gonna stop me from shit talking Ben himself? Hell no! Is it his audience's fault if they also feel insulted when I insult Ben? Yes because it's on them to have a healthier para-social relationship with Benny boi.

[@dookiehime4897]

@@bobrossslittlebitch8948 when there is evidence to prove racism exists and you still deny it by manipulating evidence or cherry picking or straw manning then sorry you're a racist. you can only argue for it so much.

[@sparkyfox7956]

Ben: “I shall disprove systemic racism by being exceptionally racist!”

[@mannyheffley4085]

ok give an example

[@sparkyfox7956]

@@mannyheffley4085 lol, so I leave a comment on an hour long video a month ago, and you actually expect me to remember the entire thing? Considering it’s Benny Boy, I’m guessing basically anything he says about anything related to race.

[@princessstrawberry4623]

@@mannyheffley4085 okay, firstly he wrongly tried to "debunk" systemic racism, which if it didn't exist there would be no reason to do, therefore all he's actually doing is making it harder for black people, which is racist. Let's see, he sourced a study saying that black men have it generally harder than white men, and then tried to chalk it up to the idea that black men are just inherently worse, completely ignoring any other data on it. I could go on

[@dest3953]

@@sparkyfox7956 ez dodge wow

[@nobleradical2158]

@@mannyheffley4085 in this video, he indicates that he thinks names like “Jamal” and “Tyrone” are low-class.

[@BouncyAbigail]

Vaush: That would be a really good addition to sim city" Me: Systemic Racism!??!? Vaush: Property tax Me: That makes more sense

[@emilydenney2273]

lmao the new Sims 3 add on: systemic racism. Now your Sims can be oppressed!

[@QuincyIsCrispy]

Actually being able to discriminate in simcity would be kinda cool. You could get to see the effects of your discrimination reflected in your city.

[@notsayingimbetterthanyoubu3187]

@@user-gc1wj8tt2p No he said that wealthy Chinese were over represented in college loan successes per capita. Didn't say they all were Chinese or rich

[@huawen1065]

@@user-gc1wj8tt2p I'm an asian american and my family is pretty poor, but Vaush isn't saying that EVERYONE who comes here is wealthy. I DO know a couple of wealthy chinese kids and I know that private and transfer schools are where a lot of them are found, so as a poorer asian american, we are already isolated from the richer asians so for us to not know a single wealthy chinese kid is reasonable. I know my family interact with and are friends with asian families that are more similar to us. The fact that you yourself haven't seen wealthy kids doesn't negate a general fact about chinese immigrants. Also, what Alex said is true and very well put

[@Johncornwell103]

@@user-gc1wj8tt2p Look up the creation of the model minority.

[@lovelyldragon3382]

I'm a very non-confrontational person, but damn does Ben's voice make me wanna steal his lunch money

[@burcolclone8322]

And pants him in front of the girl he likes (AOC)

[@lifeboat6284]

Burcol Clone he deadass has a crush on her and i refuse to believe otherwise

[@wafflefalafel9442]

I swear I'm a pacifist but everytime I see his face I have the urge to slam it into the school's urinals.

[@goodgamingair7994]

@@janusgahrstre1998 Ben Shapiro should slip on a comically oversized banana peel, accompanied by a whimsical sound effect.

[@stefanalexanderlungu1503]

støre lmfao BEYDAH

[@fangsabre]

Man that first Shapiro argument reminded me of his infamous "just sell your flooded house and move somewhere else" line

[@yazanhussam8182]

@@janusgahrstre1998 point received, but for future reverence: the laugh at the end is a bit extreme and make it less likely for people to take you seriously.

[@yazanhussam8182]

@@janusgahrstre1998 you sound like you think like I am against you or disagreeing with you which I am not, I am just saying that putting "hahaha" in a serious comment makes it seem childish or a troll wrote it, therefore people will disregard that comment nor they will take it seriously, I understand the confusion, with my previous comment and I apologise for accidentally misleading you.

[@dominicparker6124]

@@janusgahrstre1998 and the person that bought the house, when the water comes, who do they sell to? And if that person shouldn't have bought it because it's obviously a bad idea, who does the current owner sell to? X this situation for every property in the potentially affected areas.

[@thingswhynot]

Janus gahr støre The thing we’re laughing at is the fact that “just moving” doesn’t fix anything but your individual current situation. People can move out of places that will go underwater, but climate change is still affecting society. People can move out of redlined areas, but systemic racism is still happening. Your and Ben’s arguments here do NOTHING to solve problems, just ways to skirt the greater issues without putting any effort in.

[@Likeicare96]

"Sell your house to whom Ben?! Fucking Aquaman?"

[@weirdroadkill]

Me at age seven: yeah, we have to get food from churches a lot. I can’t afford to eat lunch most days Ben Shapiro: jUsT bUy fOoD

[@naqueeldiva7693]

This is the reason that it's so hard to win a debate against Shapiro. It took a whole hour long video to go against his 17 minute video. Imagine trying to disprove all the nonsense he throws at you without having these sources already at your disposal.

[@ascincir]

Ben thinks because he words everything nice and talks fast, that he is making a good point.

[@preternatural3231]

@ i dont see how he could make ANY good point let alone good points most of the time when he's literally word vomitting and using logical fallacies left and right

[@preternatural3231]

@ lmaooo grow up

[@queenapryllm8454]

I think facts speaks fast people oh he's defeated the points but also usually deconstruct his point to refute. Honestly I fell if he in UK or other European countries his fan base would the same, maybe because I live in leftleaning area

[@miguelcarmona3036]

@ I genuinely can't see how Shapiro's arguments were better than Vaush's

[@Ryannrichards95]

Ben Shapiro solved poverty everybody! If you’re in a poor community/neighborhood? Easy. Just move! 👍🏼

[@viola308]

Yes. Or get a job. Why is that so hard? You are your own worst enemy.

[@Ryannrichards95]

viola if you’re impoverished, how do you afford the move viola? If you were to get a job, odds are you’ll start at minimum wage and have to work up. Notice I said minimum wage and not livable wage. You can work full time somewhere and still not be able to afford it. What’s so hard to understand?

[@viola308]

@@Ryannrichards95 literally work at target, which pays higher than minimum wage. if you went to school like you were supposed to, then you will get better job opportunities. There is nothing to understand, it costs more to live in Atlanta than it does to live in the country, ENTRY LEVEL FARM HANDS CAN MAKE 20-40 DOLLARS AN HOUR. What's so hard about that? You have to be joking or something.

[@carlissiawilkins4432]

@@viola308 found the dumb conservative...😇

[@viola308]

@@carlissiawilkins4432 found someone who doesn't know that there are unemployment offices… so autistic honestly.

[@smammy2645]

god he's sad. all he does is talk fast and insult.

[@seventy18]

All progressives do is talk slow and are easy to insult

[@dynamicworlds1]

And by insult, we mean project, of course, because that's all right wingers can do for their insults.

[@elizabethhannah4332]

all conservatives born before 2003 do is talk fast, insult, and marry doctors

[@Henry-pe4rn]

@@elizabethhannah4332 Claims to marry doctors.

[@tektitestomp240p8]

@@seventy18would you be willing to come on stream and show vaush what you mean instead of hiding in the comment replies like a little bitch?

[@michaelsantangelo7997]

I am white. My parents are extremely racist. Growing up, my parents taught me that because of affirmative action, my life was going to be really difficult as a white male. They taught me that all the schools and jobs were going to take all the black people first even if they were less qualified. Totally delusional.

[@devinnie7572]

Relatable. My father once told me that "Everyone that is rich got there by working hard, even if they were born to a wealthy family they had to work hard to keep it. If you aren't wealthy then you probably just don't want it bad enough to really work for it". I asked him if that included him, if he was not wealthy because he personally did not want it hard enough to work for it. He looked me dead in the eye and said "Yes, even me. The fact that I am not wealthy is because I didn't want it bad enough to work for it". For context my father worked as an ironworker for most of my childhood and now to this day works I estimate around 3000 hours a year doing swing shifts as a boiler operator for an oil refinery. I don't think I need to point out that the guy does more work in a six month period than the average trust fund baby does their whole lives, yet even he is convinced of this nonsense. Sad.

[@mistersadaimusic]

My old man says he can't be racist because he has black friends and then scolded me for having a black girlfriend with "the races shouldn't mix"

[@michaelsantangelo7997]

@@mistersadaimusic I have a friend who says he's not racist, but just thinks black guys should stay away from white women

[@theamaeve8175]

Ok Vaush, but did you not hear how fast Ben Shapiro talks? Have you not calculated that into your arguments?

[@GummyCircusPeanut]

Ben honestly reminds me of that one kid in high school who would try to debate anyone any chance he could get about anything 💀

[@raytom6385]

Lmao he'd be the kid that wants to debate the teacher on capitalism while the teacher is trying the class rational expressions

[@MeganAllen1738]

That's lowkey me to be honest

[@khadijahmuhammad4771]

Ben is the kid who wears a suit on a class field trip to a college campus for virtually no reason.

[@verminscum]

i was that kid lmao, but with leftist ideologies

[@becky3446]

me when i was 16 in youtube comment sections

[@katekatekate518]

Ironic that he doesn’t wanna change anything about society yet he has a “let’s move forward, together” poster behind him.

[@rubinisdad4788]

Mae Mccormack how does he benefit from that

[@steverichardson8080]

@@rubinisdad4788 Gee, I don't know, probably by schlepping bs to rabid, drooling mouth-breathers who just want to hear that's it's ok for them to hate other people, especially if it keeps minorities "in their place"

[@VeaFlea]

I mean if im taking life advice it'll definitely be from the the successful and rich author/businessman who is also happily married and not The angry basement dweller with a man bun

[@Incathealc]

He is changing a lot of people by educating them.

[@platinummad4701]

@@VeaFlea but politics is not about giving life advices is about improving things, Ben Shapiro should be doing self improvement meetings not politics.

[@Beto_Serrano]

Shapiro proved he's amazingly dumb when he said "just sell yout house" when talking about coastal properties flodding due to sea levels rising.

[@smeni9495]

@@bN_isheeere hbomberguy is very cool ngl

[@someadorablebuffcat]

"Who are they going to sell it to AQUAMAN?!"-Hbomberguy

[@richardhill7050]

When 400 years of slavery and 100 years of legally enshrined segregation shouldn't matter but 50 years of theoretically equal home lending should. And by the way, black people are still denied home loans at far higher rates, but now it's justified on the basis of poor credit scores and the general fact that poor people have a harder time qualifying for loans. That might not be a bad thing (handing out loans to people who can't afford them is what caused the housing market crash after all), but here you see the disparity in generational wealth coming out and black people now not being able to buy homes because of the economic consequences of their parents and grandparents being barred from buying homes because they were black. Fun fact, this applies for cars as well (y'know, the thing you would theoretically use to transport your kids to schools in wealthy white neighborhoods). Numerous auto manufacturers at some point been sued for being caught charging black people higher interest rates for car loans. Honda paid a $24 million settlement for doing this *in 2015*. It's just so pervasive. One might almost use the word... "systemic."

[@AlJennXander]

That’s not what caused the crash as I understand it. Wasn’t it selling bad investments as good ones and then betting on them to fail? That seems different than just giving loans to people that can’t afford it. It’s more like looking specifically for the people that can’t afford it, giving them bad loans and then betting that they will default by selling off your high risk debt you know likely won’t be paid back but calling it a low risk investment. Or am I missing something? Just curious if anyone can enlighten me I’m a layman at best.

[@erboch7124]

I agree with everything except the years aspect. It's about 265 years of slavery with 100 years of legalized racism.

[@cantiboy6857]

That last part is sooooo facts. Black people even if you get accepted for loans your interest rate is fucking sky high if your credit isn’t excellent

[@queenapryllm8454]

I. Didn't know. The Honda but ik about the lain issue it is very hard to get a loan if u are poorer

[@baptistepg8707]

Your city is bad? Just move! Wait, why are you moving in MY neighborhood?

[@samiamrg7]

The place you live is becoming uninhabitable due to climate change? Just move! Wait, why are you coming to “my” country?

[@lilyrose1057]

samiamrg7 bro fax

[@dfmrcv862]

Your city is bad, hey man you should move! Wait, why are you voting for the policies to turn my community into your city- i thought you said your city sucked?

[@Sam-gy3ok]

The fact property taxes fund schools is ridiculous that this has so long been an uncontriversial issue. It's hard to think of a more blatant and obvious policy to recreate inequality.

[@sizetenshoe2014]

“if you’re homeless just buy a house”

[@livin7774jesus]

The point is that there are no laws today that support racial biases.

[@commondirtbagz7130]

@@livin7774jesus yeah I don’t know where liberals get the idea this is systemic or that it’s racism? Does it need to be changed? Yes. But creating problems where there are none, and calling it racist is just complaining and making things worse without looking for a solution.

[@livin7774jesus]

@@commondirtbagz7130 Well it seems that socialists actually do have some solutions in mind. And there are actually some problems. I suspect they are mostly a bit blown out of proportion but I'm sure things are different city to city. I've heard the arguments for using the words systemic and rascism but they seem weak to me. Too generalized.

[@commondirtbagz7130]

@@livin7774jesus I agree one hundred percent.

[@livin7774jesus]

@L M Right, so who/what is to blame? The system, or the cunts?

[@dmore454]

Shapiro cherrypicked ONE study from 1992 to try to show redlining doesn't exist anymore... ...meanwhile there have been dozens of paired testing studies done since that 1992 study that show when you control for all variables except race (ie same credit scores, income, duration of employment, etc), if you are black you are far more likely to be turned down for a loan, and even in the cases when your application is accepted you're on average have a significantly higher interest rate and a shorter time (also far more likely to only be given a sub-prime loan); you're also more likely to be told by real estate agents that "nothing is available at the moment" (while the whites that applied as part of the paired testing are told something is available), and likely to be shown a different property/rental unit than whites applying at the same time with all other non-racial variables controlled for (aka racial steering). The fact is redling still occurs, no matter how much Ben feels like it doesn't.

[@iironhide6209]

Which studies

[@JP-sd4qc]

Yeah I'll like to see those studies as well. If you got some time to post a few, thanks.

[@kaliyepalata9973]

Any links to these studies?

[@dmore454]

@@kaliyepalata9973 you'd have to ask Professor Joseph Darden of MSU, I was basically summarizing from my memory (like 4 years ago now) a section of his lectures from 2 of his classes. I took both of those classes (Urban Geography and Geography of the Ghetto, both of which he covers paired testing in) back to back semesters. He uses paired testing data from studies conducted every year by the Department of Housing and Urban Development. I still have notebooks somewhere with notes I transcribed literally word for word for EVERY lecture slide; his exam questions were all written essay answers where he wanted you to pretty much quote him exactly from the lectures and he refused to give out his lecture slides because he was paranoid we'd post them on koofers or something, idk he was kind of an odd dude). I nearly ended up with carpal tunnel syndrome trying to keep up with him every day. I've been meaning to dig up those notes because I usually included the study citations he'd put after every data point he'd include in the lectures, that way I could list them out in an email and see if Vaush wanted them for the research document. I might be able to find them in the DHUD website though without having to dig through old notebooks, now that I think of it...

[@kaliyepalata9973]

@@dmore454 I'll need your help.

[@erisdarko4184]

Looks like he didn’t use facts over feelings.

[@ThisguySL]

Well, we all know the tagline: "Facts don't care about YOUR feelings." He said nothing of his own.

[@InfernoBlade64]

Lol Ben wouldn’t survive a debate with Vaush. He’s too scared of debating Kulinski and Seder

[@Landonio]

@Milo Kaye Not sure if serious.

[@hunteressthompson5878]

@Milo Kaye I diasagree, he'd definitely have trouble with Kyle, he's way more moderate and nuanced than Ben's strawmen/purple hairded students and he talks for a living. Shapiro is a paper tiger he gets dunked on constantly, just not live unfortunately.

[@jaws3772]

"If you're poor and hungry, just go to an ATM and take out a bunch of cash. Or call up your mom and dad and ask them for money." - Ben Shapiro

[@seventy18]

Id debate "Frosh" And destroy the man easily and Im a "labor value proponent" Today's progressives are a product of tampered social policies

[@eoghan.5003]

@Milo Kaye nah even if you don't agree with Kyle all the time he is good at making arguments against the right

[@rowan9181]

Bro this is so unrelated but your chat is so cute look at them go. What funky dudes

[@novako4280]

@Anthony Landowski PLSSS

[@thomasjensen5042]

@Anthony Landowski HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@jjabbott7249]

Ben: Why do people drown just drink the water lmao

[@imyourmaster77]

Yeah, Shapiro believes nobody can drown while his feet are still on solid ground.

[@zoecope8152]

Shapiro is on the only boat around and it happens to fit everyone but he doesn't let anyone else on. All the while he says that others would survive if only they were smart enough to be on a boat.

[@tellonindia]

are you poor? then stop being poor. 🧚🏽‍♀️🌸🌷✨💐💕

[@winter_wolf3284]

If you’re homeless just buy a house smh 🙄

[@flower5224]

you are being deported without your kids? Just ask for them back smh

[@burcolclone8322]

Your house is under sea level now? Just sell it

[@ChrisTian-cy7eu]

You always have a choice. You can sell your organs or your body and make a fortune. Well you could if the socialist government would not regulate these markets.

[@PartnershipsForYou]

Chris Tian hahahahahahhahahahgaHahahahahahaag How about you donate your brain pally, you clearly aren’t using it

[@Alex-cw3rz]

As the age old question goes is Ben Shapiro stupid or is he lying?

[@dynamicworlds1]

Yes

[@meredithgrace2292]

yes

[@tharfagreinir]

He's deliberately lowering his standards in service of the grift but he's still just not that smart to begin with.

[@alvinanis3006]

@@janusgahrstre1998 What?

[@stefanalexanderlungu1503]

@@janusgahrstre1998 Lmfao imagine saying this to Vaush

[@MayaSmileyaccount]

Both of my parents are teachers that went on strike this year. The reason they did is because the district wanted to make more charter school and eventually turn them private so they can profit. This would reject millions of kids who don't have the funds to pay and charter schools would get most of the funding while public schools in poor areas would decline even more than they have now. It would literally keep the status quo

[@kaliyepalata9973]

Charters schools don't even out perform public schools.

[@bluman6793]

Charter schools are privately owned.

[@Malik_Maverick]

Ben says that employers are not discriminating against LaKeisha (which is a derivative of Leticia and possibly the Hebrew name Keziah) and Jamal (Arabic for beauty) because they’re black but because their names most likely mean that they come from a poor family. And that’s.....not okay.....What does he not get about that?

[@twojointsjay7330]

@ I know it's over ten Sargon's long but try to watch the whole video.

[@Romanticoutlaw]

ben probably thinks it’s okay to be classist because “muh bootstraps”. Wild that he seems to entirely miss that class and race are almost always linked

[@MrEvldreamr]

@@Romanticoutlaw Ben's logic: "I'm fine. So what's the problem?"

[@alakae5913]

I wonder where Black people in the US get the last names like "Jefferson" from? I wonder where they could've inherited a last name associated with old time affluent white men.

[@Soleilune1995]

When I was in elementary school, for show and tell, this black kid literally brought in a certificate of sale for one of his ancestors buying their own freedom from slavery. His family passed it down through the generations. I still remember that.

[@piscesgirlfriend]

Soleilune wow... how did your teacher react?

[@forkii4122]

Before I properly started to read up on American politics, and political science, I thought Shapiro was some sort of genius with perfect arguments. Man I’m glad I did some research lmao.

[@foxeye2012]

HyTz Vorkkz I thought the same I was never republican but I have often thought he made sense until seeing things more clearly.

[@SeanLaMontagne]

It's just because he talks so fast. He inserts so many logical fallacies and contradictions into one run on sentence, that debunking him is a chore to those who know he is lying and leaving out information, and leaves him looking like an intellectual badass to naive viewers who wouldn't even know where to start to debunk him, thus they just assume everything he is saying is true, even if they don't understand what he is saying.

[@Em3ga]

"We had a Black president, whom I didn't vote for and cried about for 8 years. He was even born in the US and a secret Muslim. No racism though." -Republicans

[@JoshuaWillis89]

Jamal’s entire neighborhood is supposed to transfer to a school outside their zone? That’s impossible and impractical.

[@11eav3n]

That’s just not what he was talking about at all.

[@misterdude8615]

@@redsnorlax1945 Still, some commutes can be 30-60 minutes and parents dont have the time to do it or they lose out on money, they also cant hire drivers not only that but if you want to give every student with good grades to move it would be overcrowded. And dont say dumbass it is ignorant

[@misterdude8615]

@Wise Guy So Republicans hate being called racist yet they point at Democrats and say they dont want to give you a choice. Also the voucher system is impractical especially for poorer families who cant do a large commute of 30-60 minutes or cant afford to pay for that. Not only that but if you moved every kid with good grades to another school it would be unpratical and just ignoring the root of the decision instead we can I dont know, make the money go equal on both parts?

[@dig3360]

Wouldn't it be the same for a predominantly white trailer park? I wouldn't imagine they have a particularly good school...

[@cartaphilus242]

@@redsnorlax1945 Okay, say I get a voucher to go to a better school. Well that school would be farther away right? Probably around 20-30 minutes away. You can't take a school bus, they have routes and they're not changing them for one kid. Therefore the parent had to drive their kid, every day, there and back, about 2 hours. 2 hours is a lot of time to take out of every day, especially if you NEED the work

[@yoya.]

Coming from a poor rural school district, the closest "good" school district was over an hour and a half away.

[@hihiz432]

Mine is 20 mins away and I literally have to break the law in order to go there (you have to pay thousands if you don’t live in the district)

[@kaliyepalata9973]

@@hihiz432 why do you have to pay so much?

[@kaliyepalata9973]

@@hihiz432 why do you have to pay so much?

[@hihiz432]

Kaliye Palata Because you don’t pay taxes or spend money in that district, so they make you compensate.

[@kaliyepalata9973]

@@hihiz432 wow. So how can we expect children to succeed in a messed up system?

[@epicderp6167]

37:00 Ben it's the kind of person to hate feminism because "they hate men", yet he doesn't want to even think about black men issues. Funny...

[@emmanuelredd7913]

I'm pretty sure he has talked about the problems black men have had...just not in the way people want it

[@EE-yx4xp]

@@emmanuelredd7913 He blamed welfare...

[@user-in5ru2cd9l]

@@EE-yx4xp its true. Welfare is a big problem. Wonder why many young african americans kids are born without a father? Because welfare gives an easy way out for the fathers. Welfare is racist so as planned parenthood.

[@user-in5ru2cd9l]

@@EE-yx4xp and mothers are left alone to pay rent, utilities, etc.

[@redsun7223]

@@user-in5ru2cd9l Balck fathers are the most likely to be involved in their child’s life compared to any other race I can send you a video and data if you want

[@cassnuss8125]

Chat: *goes at normal speed* Vaush: "I think he looks cute here" Chat: *goes at supersonic speed*

[@trylius]

Lmao

[@samiamrg7]

That “just go to another, better school, 4head” thing especially falls apart in more rural areas where the entire region may be relatively poor meaning there isn’t even a possibility of going a better school. On top of that, because population is not as dense in rural areas, schools tend to be fewer and farther between as well, making it even less practical to go anywhere besides the closest school.

[@marklemaster1395]

welcome to Appalachia

[@8MercurySunrise8]

This. Living in OK this is exactly the case. The entire state's educational system is literally cancer, so cancerous in fact that they hire people as teachers who have history of abuse because they will take less pay and that's all our public schools can afford. From the 4 year difference between my husband and I, we lost 6 extra-curricular classes. I couldn't take an art class my freshman year because they had to move everyone from the other classes and it was completely full. The only moneyed schools here are hardline evangelical private schools.

[@tanman2238]

I live in Nevada and where I go to school it is way underfunded on a lot of things. The more funded, larger school is at least 45 mins away and typically they won’t let you unless you live in that county. And like he said, people will move there so they won’t go to my school. They’d have more opportunities. We barely have a cooking class and we used to have a Certified Nurse assistant program but they couldn’t afford to hire a new nurse for the class. I bet that more funded school has a shop class and all sorts of opportunities for kids who may not go to college.

[@samiamrg7]

Tan Man22 Or we could equitably fund schools instead of reinforcing income inequality by making poor areas have poor schools and rich areas have rich schools. There is more to educational success than school funding, (like families being able to feed kids properly and having the free time to be involved in their child’s education) but it definitely helps if schools aren’t desperate for money.

[@8MercurySunrise8]

@@tanman2238 This goes for community colleges too actually. The one in my town has shit for options compared to the ones in MO and even KS. State funded education has not done us any favors as one of the poorest states.

[@NoName-fz5ed]

Video: Systemic Racism sucks and we need to change the systems to fix it. Ben Shapiro: If systemic racism was a thing people would want to change them. Everyone with a brain: Exactly.

[@stephenking9114]

@Boss Interepid but systematic racism is a thing

[@InformedBeliever]

@Boss Interepid Clearly you didn’t watch the video because Vaush gave evidence to support his belief that systemic racism exists.

[@stephenking9114]

@Boss Interepid what evidence? Can it explain the disparity in sentencing between races when all other factors are accounted for? How about the racial bias faced in the work force? The over policing of black communities?

[@stephenking9114]

@Boss Interepid do you believe that growing up impoverished makes it more difficult to become wealthy later in life? If so, you are acknowledging that impoverished people face larger challenges and encounter more difficulties. Does that make it impossible for someone who was born in the lower class to rise up and become successful? No. But some impoverished people's success doesn't diminish the challenges others in their situation face. Likewise, it is possible to recognize that African Americans can succeed while still realizing they face larger challenges.

[@stephenking9114]

@Boss Interepid And what do you mean brainwashing makes minorities easier to control? I have seen conservatives accuse liberals of having secrete agendas and that democrats are still slaveowners, but I have never seen any real clarification. Can you please clarify exactly what you believe concerning this liberal agenda.

[@hobbyboundcat6713]

I can't wait for Ben Shapiro to go bald, I think his hair gives him power

[@Saturnia2014]

The power of being a wormy little shit?

[@andreapiccolo8199]

I believe there is a man in thr bible that gets superhuman power from his hair

[@AngelLustZombie]

your icon is so cute

[@max2000warrior]

He's already balding. Why do you think he wears the yarmulke?

[@Fatima-uh4qx]

LMAO

[@blizzard_the_seal9863]

ben “if you’re depressed just smile more” shapiro

[@Mae_Dastardly]

So he's butch hartman?

[@enzyme3254]

@@Mae_Dastardly pretty much

[@Maussiegamer]

there have been studies which show that it actually does make you happier

[@blizzard_the_seal9863]

@@Maussiegamer yeah smiling does release serotonin, but it can’t cure depression lmao

[@Maussiegamer]

@@blizzard_the_seal9863 im not saying it can cure depressiion, depression is very very hard to overcome im just saying it might make it a bit less bad

[@danielbrewster5182]

"Facts don't care about your feelings." - Guy who repeatedly lies about his height.

[@danthemandocommando6644]

What?

[@danielbrewster5182]

@@danthemandocommando6644 Ben always claims he is 5'9 which he clearly isn't.

[@danthemandocommando6644]

@@danielbrewster5182, and? He made a mistake,so what?

[@danielbrewster5182]

@@danthemandocommando6644 He made a "mistake" several times?😂😂😂😂

[@danthemandocommando6644]

@@danielbrewster5182,and just beacuse he made several doesn't mean his points are wrong,and he actually fixes his mistakes (Also why did you have to quote the word mistake?)

[@melmelhodgepodge3800]

Someone really needs to put Vaush and Shapiro in the same room.

[@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK]

With such a punchable face like that? Really?

[@melmelhodgepodge3800]

@DYLLAN THOMPSON Oh, buddy. Shapiro only talks fast and acts condescending. That's not how you win a debate with someone who knows how to debate.

[@animeonepiecelife1663]

@@melmelhodgepodge3800 You made me remember when Ben had a meltdown from losing a debate on BBC, when it was just a interview. 💀

[@DanMcLeodNeptuneUK]

@@animeonepiecelife1663 You played yourself

[@ceebeenet]

@DYLLAN THOMPSON so you didn't watch the video?

[@henri3453]

Ben Shapiro never has any counter arguments just talks over fast and confusingly to make it seem like he won

[@chrischika7026]

How come none of these streamers try to debate Ben cause they scared

[@henri3453]

Chris no Ben Shapiro is scared the only people he debates is 20 year old college kids not people who have a college degree and do this professionally

[@TheYoungGun444]

He doesn't only debate young people. Also, he talks fast. That doesn't mean interrupts and talks over you. He give you a chance to argue

[@michaelblower7363]

He doesn't interrupt people, but Ben certainly talks fast. I'm convinced that he does it to mask the contradictory nonsense that comes out of his mouth.

[@DoodleZoo]

Michael Blower he does interrupt people from what I’ve seen

[@lauryntrbl7645]

i wasn’t expecting “he looks cute here” from him💀

[@silverstrike133]

Ben: i- Vaush: so you have chosen death

[@wedembois._.5092]

Is that a Katya reference I see? And a Trixie profile picture? I can respect that.

[@olyolu2337]

If u live in a poor neighbourhood just move to a rich neighbourhood problem solved lmao 😊

[@canaryimpulse989]

The floor should be clean now, I mean we've stopped throwing rubbish on it.

[@suigeneris2663]

This is probably the best point I’ve seen here. So how do we cure it without wiping away the floor as well?

[@sophieproulx9668]

Vaush: talking about serious racial stuff The chat: *p e p e*

[@pablojn4826]

EL P E P E

[@lucasofmirrah5042]

Reminder that Ben Shapiro thinks it’s totally cool for his sister to get a degree in OPERA, yet he wants to whine about gender studies degrees.

[@raisetheroof1492]

I can't believe that anyone would give a single shit about what other people do in their lives, such as the degree they choose to obtain. This may sound selfish, but all that means to me is that there's less people in my career path and less people to compete with when interviewing for jobs.

[@glock17sks56]

Opera is high class art, gender studies is democratic bs...lol

[@glock17sks56]

The degree you choose decides your capability of making the greenbacks. Gender studies what kind of nonsense is that... 🤔

[@raisetheroof1492]

@@glock17sks56 "The degree you choose decides your capability of making the greenbacks." True, but not everyone makes that their priority when pursuing higher education. My sister has been a teacher for over a decade and has just recently paid off student loans. So does that mean that no one should become a teacher? Or any other vital career like criminal justice and some health careers that don't make necessarily lots of money? Also, gender studies has its own gems. It teaches depths of history that you would've never known by solely taking standard history courses, and it also opens doors for various social-service and even law careers.

[@K0sm1cKid]

@@raisetheroof1492 the issue is that people go into massive debt getting degrees that can't repay said debt, and then blame the system and expect others to pull them out. 2 things can be true at once: 1. Higher education shouldn't be that expensive in the first place. For degrees that won't be able to repay debt there ought to be private companies that offer the same education without the arbitrary piece of paper that dramatically increases the cost of the good. 2. We may want University to be more affordable, but that won't happen in the immediate future. Until then we have to make decisions that protect our financial wellbeing. If you want to engage in women's studies you can better spend your money accessing that informatoon yourself and taking courses through companies that don't offer any sort of university credit. (Assuming you aren't going to have a 4.0 GPA and pursue some sort of other degree like law) That way you access the same knowledge and you aren't racked with debt. The same applies to any of the arts if you believe your chances of employment are unlikely to pay for your degree. It means a lot more to be talented at your respective art than it does to have a piece of paper, your portfolio will hold a lot more weight than the degree ever will. The irony is that the logic we are discussing here where you sacrifice money for the sake of higher education at university is something that can really only be pursued by those who come from a wealthy background.

[@TheFrostbite324]

I love how the same dude who became rich and successful because his family was also rich and gave him the opportunities to succeed doesn’t believe that if you’re born wealthy you’re more likely to be wealthy.

[@precisi0n701]

I believe that yeah if you are born wealthy there's a higher chance to be wealthy but I think mentality is more important than that little start up money. If you have the right mentality and you are hungry to succeed you will attempt over and over and over again whether you fail or not until you succeed so I don't think anyone is trapped

[@GinkgoPete]

Ben somehow looks like a 15 year old man in his 40s lmao

[@wooww91619]

Highly accurate

[@evanhunt1863]

I seriously don't think he fully went through puberty. There are people like that, you know.

[@gasoven3759]

He'll look great at 80.

[@nathanmeadows5323]

I just had to try explaining this stuff to a conservative who came here from another country (she didn't specify where) and she not only doesn't believe systemic racism is real, she thinks foreigners can't be racist, as she legit told me she thinks black people are inherently lazy (they aren't, duh). I provided links to studies in the Research Document and she completely ignored them to continue pushing her argument. I wanted to commit not alive

[@thekingoffailure9967]

As a white person I can confirm that I am inherently lazy, as are most humans lmao

[@C.Song07]

"Foreigners can't be racist"? Bro has she ever been to a soccer match in basically the entirety of Europe? People have openly tossed banana peels at the black players.

[@riotbreaker3506]

Ben "Let's say, hypothetically, you pin me against the wall and kiss my neck" Shapiro

[@philsebastian7667]

😂😂😂😂

[@raiorai2]

Ooh~

[@nashidaperv2351]

wtf...what do you even say to that, rofl

[@elfandomya56]

😜

[@cyansloth1763]

When vaush was like he’s kinda cute here

[@Im_Evie_Now]

Me at the beginning of the vid: You're right, Vaush, Ben is kinda cute... (hears Ben speak) Never mind, he's hideous.

[@thatotherchannel7945]

Vaush is the pinnacle of attractive

[@allisoncastle]

The line about ‘lazy black people’ has gotten too old for little Ben so he had to switch to another talking point, but this time it’s that black people got the wrong degrees in college (notice he still found a way to blame them).

[@lProN00bl]

@james stpatrick Then shouldn't the percentage of black people and white people in poverty be equal? Or are you suggesting that there is something innate to being black that makes them "foolish". That natural conclusion of your comment as a racist one. Merely again an extension of "black people are too lazy to do good". And I'm sure you'd never try the next step down dogwhistle that it's merely "black culture" responsible.

[@j.c.jeggis1818]

my kink is those moments when Ben Shapiro is smart enough to realize that the other side is correct, but is trapped by his grift into making embarrassing 40 IQ arguments that you can tell even he doesn't believe

[@j.c.jeggis1818]

@@strawberryanimation9294 lmao go do your laundry or something, this is 1/10 bait at best

[@coco_and_honey9639]

*2 seconds in* “I BlAmE tHe DeMoCrAts”

[@bigrose7629]

He ain't wrong though

[@cia3058]

Ghost Man actually he is did you even watch the video

[@bigrose7629]

@@cia3058 😂 this video ain't shit, if you did research on Democrats you'd realize he's not wrong, Democrats dont give a damn about black folks, let me know where the fund of BLM goes to.

[@taifu7040]

@@bigrose7629 you act like leftists like democrats LOL also what candace owens post did you come from? (rhetorical question because I can tell)

[@notsayingimbetterthanyoubu3187]

@@bigrose7629 Democrats are on your side buddy, Liberals are right wing. We're actual lefties

[@lilsub]

I consider myself to be a republican but i saw one of your highlights on tiktok and i have been watching your videos and you bring up phenomenal points and I love the way you are civil with your arguments and provide concrete evidence. You have changed a lot of my opinions on certain political topics.

[@LilCatDude]

I’m curious; are you still a republican?

[@meadowlin2656]

My god is this video beautiful. This is exactly the type of educated, intelligent information needed to build upon any political/social/economic ideology or argument. This is the first and probably the last time I will ever say this to someone but thank you for sharing your opinion online.

[@hearta]

@@dove6069 LOL

[@jacklandismusic]

Ben “if your home is going to be underwater because of sea levels rising, sell it and move away” Shapiro

[@senorbongo4975]

I really don’t get it man, Aquaman is the king of Atlantis, he could totally buy all those houses

[@guyferrari8124]

@@senorbongo4975 the point was that the houses wouldn’t be underwater completely, it would be that they would be too close to the tides and be at risk for flooding so moving out would be a wise option to protect your assets before it is too late

[@senorbongo4975]

@@guyferrari8124 but aquaman could still buy em??? He has a whole ass treasury

[@Cube-xm6vt]

@@guyferrari8124 But who tf you sell the house to?

[@namjoonssexybrain1679]

@@guyferrari8124 That doesn’t answer the question of exactly who the hell you’re going to sell those houses to.