Den 3 is Overrated.. Here is why in my opinion

[@shadowofthenorthstar989]

i agree as u go to the highest ranks ppl know how counter it pretty well . especially characters with parries, powercrushes or very good evasive moves like Feng's uf2. its only a huge problem in the lower ranks or ppl that dont lab. not saying its not a good move but its not as good as ppl think it is.

[@johnysimps1191]

Tekken try not to downplay your main any% speed run Challenge level: Impossible Feng's knee is powerful but lars den3 is just as powerful. He can do den3 at range 4 (nealry fullscreen) and be +5 effectively skipping the neutral into an advantageous situation. If you don't see the value in that then there is nothing to discuss here If the counterplay to a 50/50 is a preemptive action to 1 of 2 options then then it's still a 50/50. For Den3 into mid or low sabakis will beat the mid and low parries will beat the low. In the rare instance where the opponent has a parry that works on both lows and mids (which you brought up as if it's something Lars has to contend with when only 1 character can do that. Maybe if we count yoshi flash) you can delay. So you have 2 options again while they have 2 responses. Still a 50/50 guessing game either way. I have no idea why discussing character strengths always has to boil down to "X is worse" or "It's technically beatable" or some other underhanded downplaying of the good while magnifying the bad. That's not what you think you are doing but that's absolutely what you are conveying throughout the video.

[@pgnsantos123]

"except these two options, is stepable!" "u can float them out, its 22 frames" '-' bro, u serious?

[@slimzaki242]

With all do respect if you try to mix up using mishimas or even broken op drag there is more counter play than this stupid situation the only thing that balances it out is how low the reward if u don’t duck or press, but it is a 50/50 100% with no counter play other than taking a guess

[@MrDxfusion]

Professional Tekken yapper.

[@NoobyNick0710]

Muh range 5 homing move into mixup. At least a Mishima has to press some buttons in a certain way.

[@olav_]

Sorry im gona be really harsh on lars... dont take it the wrong way. i just legit never liked the character.... and i found him exceedingly boring to play too, but would be cool to chat and maybe have a discussion about the balance etc etc etc. But here goes: amm what are you smoking? Can you send some of that to me as well? So first: 1: Feng. Because this arguable top 5 character has this dumb move my dumb move is weak? and that's not even mentioning the range tracking low crush, AND HEAT ENGAGE 2: Raven: Like yes there are options to beat your stance. The issue is that outside of the VERY VERY highest levels the risk reward is SO heavily skewed towards Lars its insane. for example that backswing example you gave. just try stance 2 against that. oh would you look at that... CH launch. legit the second thing i tried BTW and im not a raven player. 3: parries reversals ill clumb armor here too. if they are spamming paries what do you NORMALY do against them? oh either wait for it to end or do an un parriable move? So does raven have either option. yes you can wait. (remember risk reward. your reward is generally MUCH better than theirs on a successful parry) and for example unless im mistaken your 3+4 there is a jumping move > cant be parried. oh and what's that? its also neutral on block but forces opponent to crouch? so you get to keep playing? Ill just mention armor: again if you just tap 2 they die... 4: Paul so pauls evasion is generally super dumb... i will give you that but if they are mashing that like idiots the risk reward is super hard on your favor still... yes at higher levels if they just duck the next time and kill you for the 4 they get more damage, but that's what i mean. most if not all higher intermediate level players wont do that. i didn't find any new clips but i believe i saw you at like around tk at some point? jeah people wont be playing near enough optimally to punish that. 5: the 2 being unsafe? dude its a -12 on block CH launcher. yes from a stance, but a stance you get to go to essentially for free most of the game. i can think of like 3? -12 (or better) on block low CH launchers in the ENTIRE GAME and some of those are a bit unreliable. most chars only get a ws4. for like 15 damage or something on block. The real risk is if they hopkick it or i guess low parry for like 40 damage. but again now we are discussing near optimal play which wont happen anywhere near intermediate play. AND that is still the risk for all of the other lows too I'm pretty sure. So Lars is a braindead character, that plays the game FOR THE PLAYER in most skill levels. Yes at super high level play he is risky and dies for free kind of when he tries to have fun, but outside of that? Aka for all of us mortals. He just lets you mash random buttons and get value. Personally when ever i see a lars in ranked i know i wont have fun... WIN OR LOSE.

[@TemperedPuro]

Right, it isn't that good. But here's the reason why they use it so much. People don't know the frames.

[@bansheejack7567]

great video dude lars is annoying to fight but hes not that good in general i guess thats the price he pays for His Tekken 6 warcrimes!🤣

[@Mzamojali963]

Haven't even watched but you are right. It's really not that good

[@bii_gii]

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