DENIED AN INVINCIBLE SEASON! The Story of the 1988 Italian Grand Prix

[@interests3279]

>replaces Nigel for a single race >crashes Senna >robs McLaren of perfect season >is never heard from again

[@madkhaliqfarhan]

Schlesser is a coward!!!

[@MurphysLawNZ]

Me and some, mates talked about this a few weeks ago. At the time I threw together some stats for that season. -16 Races -15 Wins -15 Poles -10 1-2 finishes -Average pole to the first non-Mclaren 1.083 seconds -Biggest pole gap - 3.352 seconds -Average winning Margin to the first None Mclaren 47.2 seconds -Lapped every Non-Mclaren twice During the season - Every races Winning Margin Combined, 708 Seconds or Roughly 9 laps of Adalade

[@McLarenMercedes]

Laps led: 1003 out of 1031 laps in total. That's 97,3% of all laps that season. Still the record. Second on this list is the 2014 Mercedes which led 978 out of 1134 laps that season, or 86,2%. The MP4/4 is also the only car out of two to lead more than 1000 laps in a single season. The all-time record is the 2016 Mercedes which led 1055 laps. Naturally, there were 1268 laps to race that season translating to a 83,2% laps led. There were 21 races in 2016 compared to 16 in 1988...

[@SirGingerOfKnight]

That Steve Nichols interview with JayEmm about the Haynes Manual is an interesting listen Including how Murray only *really* took legal action against "the book." because his Murray Automotive shareholders would find it weird if he didn't.

[@tuneman7688]

Yeah, my initial impression was that the MP4/4 was GM’s design until I saw that interview with Steve. I don’t honestly think there’s any plausibility to GM’s claims anymore; multiple McLaren engineers have even vouched for Steve in writing. Not to say GM is without doubt a brilliant engineer but yeah.. It’s easy to see the benefit of why he’d want to take full credit for the MP4/4.

[@AGB_HDV]

Nice factoid about Prost and Senna and the seating position... ❤️🏁💪🏾 Another Quality Production...

[@wabba67]

RBR can definitely win all the races this year, but I still think they will not. Something is bound to go wrong at one of the 22-ish races: a bad pit stop at a race where Verstappen is not leading by 20 seconds, a tyre failure, strangely timed safety car, etc.

[@AndyS-kv2jh]

We can only hope

[@CyanRooper]

Yeah, you're right. A 100% win record in a season is something that will most likely never happen. Then again, I'm pretty sure people thought that a 100% podium finish in a season was impossible until Michael Schumacher did it in 2002. So who knows?

[@nielsdorhout058]

Dirty Russel wil prevent that with a divebomb on Max.

[@AidanMillward]

@@nielsdorhout058 Because Max has always been a clean and calculated overtaker...

[@jjharson7344]

@@nielsdorhout058 Dirty Russell? Max is more dirty than Russell pal. I don't remember any other driver parking their car on another drivers head? George Russell is a decent fine upstanding chap.... just because he isn't scared of Max doesn't make him dirty at all.....

[@areasquirrel]

The archive footage gets you going. The context of Ferrari's passing makes those cheers seem louder than usual for Monza, then add in the delirious commentary by Saint Murray of Walker: "FERRARI WINS!! FERRARI SECOND!!" Wow.

[@mrkipling2201]

Nostalgia is a powerful thing. Mind you, where F1 is concerned, the 1980's and very early 1990's was the golden period of the sport for me. I started watching in 1984 and didn't stop until around 2000. Due to it getting too petty and technical, in my opinion that is. Alboreto and Berger winning at Monza in 1988 was fate. Due to the passing of Enzo Ferrari. Mansell hadn't even finished a race at that point in 1988.

[@bertalann7214]

Regarding the drop score rules: all drivers knew very well how the point system worked, before they got in their cars the first time. Maybe this rule was outdated, as skipping races was less common in the late 80s, though bad reliability generally masked the concerns (Up to this point at least). But anyways, both Senna and Prost knew exactly what were the conditions for becoming champion that year.

[@martimxavier9690]

Exactly. I hate the "X driver would have been champion with X points system". So what, they drive according to how they win at the time. Maybe they should have done better if they wanted to be champion

[@julianschernthaner4351]

Arguably the best point to be made is Irvine for 1999. Under the current points system he'd have won (in fact at the penultimate round, making the rescinded DSQ the championship decider), the same under the 2003-2009 system. He'd also have won on the 1961-90 system (not accounting for "best x of y results" rules) as reducing Häkkinen's "lead" by a point would have meant Schumacher'd have handed Irvine 2nd place at the final race to clinch the title by a single point. Interestingly though, Schumacher would have secured the 1997 WDC under current points by finishing 2nd in Jerez and wouldn't have needed to risk the crash - and conversely, had the crash still happened, Villeneuve couldn't have let Häkkinen & Coulthard past near the end to keep his chances alive. On a darker note, under the current system in place since 2019 with an extra point for FL, Ickx would have overtaken Rindt at the very last race to clinch the title in 1970. The tragic story of a posthumous champion and a runner-up never to get a better shot at it again is more touching than a season unsung by an untimely death and a topnotch driver securing the title against a dead man.

[@adamwilliams192]

Anybody else come here just after Singapore 2023? 😂

[@Tacko14]

1:28 I love how that list contains no F1 driver more recent than Mario. Nice! You forgot your own favourite rally driver though.

[@AidanMillward]

Didn’t forget him. He wasn’t as good as the others.

[@house382]

With the tank being in front of the hot engine it can and often does expand with the heat soak. With the cycling of the cool fuel though the tank it would shrink back down to its built size.

[@trappenweisseguy27]

I remember this season well. Basically, nearly everyone else had switched over to the 3.5 L engines because they were going to be mandatory the next year. Ferrari was being Ferrari, with the only other competitive turbo, while Honda spent the money to maximize this final season and Ferrari did not.

[@scottbarnes3116]

10k left until the magical 100k Aidan keep pushing 👍

[@MrSniperfox29]

And we finally get the Roberto Moreno storytime!!!

[@bombfog1]

Glad to see that you are finally on the cusp of 100k subscribers. You deserve that and many more.

[@cadgey1633]

More importantly 100K = MORENO SPECIAL

[@Glibzer]

How does he not have 1m😩

[@DL-nn1ws]

Every day closer to a certain video

[@reptongeek]

I'm kind of on the fence about this. On the one hand it would be nice to see for the historical achievement, just like Michael finishing on the podium and completing every lap in 2002. But on the other it would be nice to see someone else win It was rumoured that the reason Senna had to conserve fuel was because he was suckered into it by Prost who turned up his engine knowing it wasn't going to finish, and because Senna had to beat Prost he went faster and then had to back off later It was a similar story in Monaco earlier that year. Senna didn't need to trade fastest laps with Prost he was never going to be caught, but he did it anyway and that ultimately caused his crash after Ron Dennis had told him to slow down and this disturbed his rhythm Had he actually won those two races he would have had the overall points lead and there would be no debate over who should have the title that year

[@Realtime1501]

there are 2 extensive documentaries on KZbin about the MP4/4 I would suggest to watch it's the engineers talking about the car and showing the car as well as what the drivers gave as feedback on the cars

[@ianwynne764]

Good job Aidan. Thank you.

[@mickcompagnoni1114]

Yes. I learnt something. I didn't know it was a Williams the stopped the clean sweep.

[@pilotlasse]

Imho, if Max keeps up his unbelievable streak, we are in for something special. The RB19 isn't as OP as the MP4/4 was compared to the other cars on the grid, but in Verstappen's hands, that car looks a lot more OP than it actually is, just look at where Perez is. Max is doing the exact same thing he did 10 years ago in karting: win every event he parttakes in. You can call me a Verstappen-fanboi if you want, but point remains.

[@lewiskemp5893]

I've been a fan since his dad was teammates with Michael. Max is awesome.

[@Jon.S]

I believe the fuel capacity issue with Berger could be down to temperature? Fuel (as with most things) expands and contracts as temps rise and fall, whereas the mass doesn’t change, which is why fuel is measured in weight in modern racing and in the regs. There’s also rules around the temps fuel can be stored/dispensed at, to stop teams super-cooling their fuel to fit more in and/or run smaller tanks.

[@F1Krazy]

Regarding the fuel issues, liquids are denser at colder temperatures. If you cool the fuel down, you can fit more of it into a same-size tank. It wouldn't surprise me if Ferrari and Arrows had fuel tanks that could store exactly 150L at room temperature, but then they cooled the fuel down so they could fit (say) 152L into it. From there, my assumption is that the scrutineers warmed the fuel up a bit (or it warmed up naturally as the process dragged on), and suddenly, hey presto, the cars met the regulations. This was all perfectly legal at the time, but nowadays there are limits on how much colder the fuel can be compared to the ambient temperature. As for Schlesser, I'd like to offer an addendum: some years later, he met Ron Dennis at the Monaco Grand Prix and was introduced as "the man who ruined my life and our perfect record back in '88". Schlesser replied, "No, I made you, because what happened that day kept you hungry". Legendary response.

[@y_fam_goeglyd]

Senna wouldn't have been too narked because he knew that the championship was between him and Prost, but whereas most drivers would probably be seething at losing out on those extra points, I have a suggestion as to why he wasn't. From what I've heard, he was a very spiritual man. I don't necessarily mean religious - frankly I don't have a clue about his feelings on the subject. But seeing the Ferraris win at the first Italian event after Enzo's death, I think he would have seen it as "meant to be", even "right". He knew that he and Prost would leave the Ferraris standing through the rest of the year, so I surmise (it is only that) he actually was at peace with the idea. That was one heck of a race, though. Tbh, it's one of the few that truly stand in my memory of that year. It was a long time ago. I should know, I got married that September on my 23rd birthday!

[@CyanRooper]

"Everybody is a Ferrari fan. Even when they say they are not, they are Ferrari fans." - God when asked why He made both McLarens DNF that day.

[@y_fam_goeglyd]

@@CyanRooper yes! Although I think we're on the drivers' sides usually. ;)

[@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1]

4:35 that’s easily the most ridiculous stat I’ve seen all year lol Formula 0 vs Formula 1

[@alaeriia01]

When are we getting Formula Zero, anyway? I want to see the inaugural Mute City Grand Prix.

[@neo1711]

​@@alaeriia01 we're going to have to wait until the 26th century

[@harmkuijpers6642]

Red Bull have won 17 of the last 18 races (so in essence, they've already 'broken' that 15 out of 16 record) and are on a 8 race win streak. They need 3 more consecutive wins to equal McLaren's record of 11 straight wins, and one more than that to equal McLaren's record of winning the first 11 races of the season.

[@Klutch58Customs]

Argh, now I've got 'Jovi's Dead Or Alive in my skull. How dare you plant an ear worm into me? Great video as usual mate 👍

[@sergioleone3583]

If Senna hadn't been his usual impetuous self, and just gone a bit wider around the chicane, or waited to pass Schlesser at the Curve Grande he'd not have taken himself out AND still stayed ahead of the Scuderia no matter what fuel issues he may have had.

[@bjarulez]

Enzo Ferrari died on the day I was born, I have believed for many years I must be his reincarnation!

[@mrkipling2201]

Mansell gave an interview a few races into the 1988 season and he said that he would be improving his golf that season, due to the naturally aspirated Judd engine of his Williams not being able to compete with the Turbocharged cars of the other top teams. He knew that things would be changed the following season. Which it did as he joined Ferrari, and even won the first race of the 1989 season in Brazil. It wouldn't get any better though, apart from in Hungary.......

[@MrAlexFortis]

Fuel tank could've expanded due to heat from engine (and a bit from actual heat), which made it appear to be able to carry more fuel. I guess, that was most probable reason. After it has cooled down it has contracted to real maximum volume.

[@TheMur28]

And the temperature of the fuel would also effect volume, which is why F1 now measures/mandates fuel loads in weight rather than volume.

[@tduke9882]

Regarding the fuel measurements, it's worth considering that fuel expands and contracts with changes in temperature and, to some extent, pressure. Although I'm unsure if this alone would account for the level of variation being discussed, it is a plausible factor to consider. In modern Formula 1, for example, weight measurements are used for fuel rather than capacity to eliminate this type of variation. I vaguely recall an issue in a certain race series (not certain if it was Formula 1) where they would chill the fuel at the start of the race to fit more into the tank. However, if there was a delay in starting the race, the fuel would warm up in the tank, potentially causing the tank to rupture due to increased pressure

[@tduke9882]

so I did some quick maths. Although there is a lot of variables 150l with a temprature delta of 20c would change the volume by just under 3l The coefficient varies depending on the type of fuel, but for gasoline, it is typically around 0.00096 per degree Celsius. Using this coefficient, we can calculate the volume change as follows: Volume change = (Coefficient of expansion) * (Initial volume) * (Temperature change) Volume change = (0.00096) * (150 liters) * (20°C) Volume change ≈ 2.88 liters

[@noahletwinski6955]

Will there be an story time or an video for Kunimitsu Takahashi in the near future? He was an fantastic all around driver as well and is the father of drifting.

[@Andre_The_Millennial]

Red Bull just might run the table this year.

[@patrickcannady2066]

Yeah. It will be interesting to see if the wind tunnel restrictions allow Merc, Ferrari, Aston et all to catch up to maybe steal a win or two, but it sure doesn’t look like it’s going to happen. Red Bull’s wind tunnel simulations and modeling must be super advanced to give them such an edge as they enjoy presently with the restrictions already in place.

[@potatogirlcultist19]

Wouldn't it be amazing if this year only Leclerc or Sainz at Monza would be the only ones to stop the Red Bull duo this year. Leclerc is already the only man to get a non Red Bull pole so far, so hisotry may repeat itself!

[@hugoagogo9435]

Oh I’m sure the strategy team will f++k that right up if it about to happen.

[@TheRip72]

Ferrari would need some good upgrades to make that happen. They seem to be falling backwards right now.

[@DocProdusser]

Thanks!

[@TheTotallyRealXiJinping]

Competition has been a problem for F1 since the days of no areo

[@Steven7744]

On the fuel issue, in aviation when refuelling aircraft you need to be mindful of the fuels specific gravity. It is because fuel is less dense than water i.e 1 litre of water = 1 kilogram, but 1 litre of fuel can sometimes only weigh 800 grams. It depends on the relative atmospheric pressure and can vary at different times of the day, so thats probably how the stewards were getting different readings everytime they filled and drained the cars 🤷‍♂️

[@mrterp04]

10:46 hey that’s future Indy 500 Champion Eddie Cheever to you!

[@qbertq1]

To be fair, Clarkson was likely riffing on "Monty Python and the Holy Grail"

[@StonerSnake]

So that happened

[@ericHHII]

“as I came inside him…”? Pause Ayrton

[@A-BYTE64]

0:25 in 2017, 2018, 2019 Mercedes had some fights with RB and Ferrari

[@Rosario_Verano]

Screw it. I want Red Bull to win 22 out of 22.

[@madkhaliqfarhan]

Me too! I have already given up on Mercedes!

[@minibus9]

Nice video great to hear the facts in that there have always been dominat car and driver combinations and that its nothing new despite what some on the internet would have people beleive. In terms of weather Red Bull can win 100% of the races this year, it's a possibility, may more likely than it's been for some time but i do find it unlikely as something is bound to happen to stop them from doing so, then again this comment could age rather badly

[@cjsnowdon]

Fuel tank could have expanded with heat, as crazy as that sounds

[@AntoniusTyas]

About the argument between who designed MP4/4, Mr. James Martin of JayEmm on Cars did an interview with Steve Nichols himself. It's a fascinating interview/documentary to listen to, give it a watch to hear more stories about 1988. He also did an extensive walkaround of MP4/4 with Steve Nichols, Neil Trundle and Matthew Jeffreys, quite exciting too. Making me want to find Tamiya's 1/20th scale MP4/4 to build and add to my collection of model kits.

[@madkhaliqfarhan]

One man to rule them all!

[@KR1736]

So Gordon Murray is Vince Russo

[@AidanMillward]

B R O.

[@KR1736]

@@AidanMillward Spawts Entatainment

[@ZeroHedgehog1996]

Mercedes almost did it in 2016, but a crash between Rosberg and Hamilton took them out in lap 1 at Barcelona, giving Red Bull and Max Verstappen the win. And at Sepang, Hamilton lost the race because of an engine failure, offering a Red Bull 1-2 and Rosberg finished 3rd after his lap 1 collision with the Ferrari of Sebastian Vettel and having a 5 seconds penalty after having an incident with the other Ferrari of Kimi Räikkönen.

[@alaricbragg7843]

Great story but I keep getting rude glitch interruptions when watching it. Not the first time this has happened.

[@rosalynnduke1452]

Back then they had to do sunday warm up so the engines and gearboxes were prepared for race conditions and as now they had to do a formation lap so the slitly bigger tanks may have been for that reason and the machanics didnt have all the equipment they have now to keep the engines and gearboxes ready before a race. Watch the top gear segment of Richard Hammond driving the R25 and you will see how they do it now.

[@antheusmain]

Aidan please cover Tazio Nuvolari's career and 1935 German GP Victory. I'm sure he'll fit straight into your list

[@AidanMillward]

That’ll be interesting. Only because of the time frame of it happening and the fact I have to go through a series of check boxes whenever I upload a video. I’m sure all those references to the “Third Rule” will go down well with the monetisation police. 🤣

[@mrkipling2201]

When Ferrari got it right in the 1980's, they were very good. Unfortunately it wasn't that often, as Nigel Mansell would find out the following season. Although there was a false dawn at Brazil in 1989......

[@TerribleFire]

Gordon Murray did not design the MP4/4 ... its a complete lie by Murray. The entire design team said so.

[@Nitron2097]

5:58 omg......please tell me I'm not the only one who still has a crisis every time I see these late 80s Ferraris! FFFk me, the 88C was SEXY!!!!!!!!

[@LucasOliveira-tt2ll]

funny that if you count from France GP last year to the race yesterday Red Bull had recorded 17 wins in the past 18 races which is quite remarkable although not surprising given the amount of races and cars reliability

[@AidanMillward]

Easy to do when the car drives itself.

[@martimxavier9690]

​@@AidanMillward not self drivable enough for Perez it seems tho

[@AidanMillward]

@@martimxavier9690 Well, if it was the case for Hamilton and Vettel then it's the same for Verstappen.

[@martimxavier9690]

@@AidanMillward did I mention Hamilton or Vettel? I'm just saying. Not as self drivable as it seems

[@AidanMillward]

@@martimxavier9690 I didn’t say you did. I’m just making sure there’s an element of consistency with the claims.

[@alexlazebat839]

thought brundle was banned from the FIA because it would of been 5 races in 5 weeks

[@PuncakeLena]

Let's not forget that Red Bull can still beat the victory *percentage* set by this car if they just so happen to end up not winning 1 race out of the 22 this season

[@madkhaliqfarhan]

Nah... Let's make it 100%! The time is *NOW!!!*

[@PuncakeLena]

@@madkhaliqfarhan I too hope that'll happen

[@madkhaliqfarhan]

​@@PuncakeLenaDang it... Carlos has spoiled the party!

[@johndaniels4623]

RBR will win more races than the MP4-4, it’s kinda amazing how we sorta skip over the Mercedes W05/W07 as they also won more races than the MP4-4, and yes I do know it’s more about the whole percentage thing and the like but still. The two don’t take each other out in Spain, and Hamilton’s engine holds up in Malaysia and it does happen, perfect season……

[@Dat-Mudkip]

Could Redbull win more than 16 races this year? Possibly. But I strongly doubt that they will be able to do 22 races. For example, Verstappen was on course to win in Azerbaijan back in 2021 before he had a catastrophic tire failure that had no clear cause. Something is bound to go wrong somewhere.

[@alaeriia01]

ChatGPT makes up stuff out of whole cloth, you know.

[@callumhutchinson1233]

Didn't you mean azerbaijan? Hanoi would have been a cool track but it got cancelled due to the ronie boi

[@Dat-Mudkip]

@@callumhutchinson1233 Yes! That's the track! I'll fix that immediately.

[@Rhubba]

As I'm older than dirt and was watching F1 in the 1980s I can say that 1988 was the most boring season I've ever watched. Unless you're a die hard Senna fan it was just dull watching an OP car with McClaren hiring the two top drivers in the world win every single race (except Monza). Over half the teams were switching over to aspirated engines and the one of choice was the Judd, which was unreliable so that further diminished the interest. They were largely McClaren parades and the only races I have clear images in my mind of are Monza and Silverstone where Mansell did this extraordinary manoeuvre of swerving on the track to find the wet patches so he wouldn't need to change tyres. It worked and he got 2nd place. At the risk of angering Prost and Senna fans I'm going to say that...in my opinion...1988-90 wasn't a particularly thrilling time to watch F1 unless you were a McClaren fan.

[@AidanMillward]

Prost also scored more points.

[@madkhaliqfarhan]

Now that you've said it, I don't feel bad about this season anymore! 😁

[@aydankhaliq2967]

I think anytime a Schlesser has joined a race, a Ferrari won. 1968 French GP was Jo Schlessers only official F1 race he joined I think and that race was won by Jacky Ickx in a Ferrari.

[@madkhaliqfarhan]

1968: The uncle (Jo Schlesser) got killed in a fatal accident 1988: The nephew (Jean-Louis Schlesser) hit Ayrton Senna

[@philllawrence1580]

Fuel density/temperature gets more/less in??

[@thestarlightalchemist7333]

Max Verstappen is basically becoming F1's Jimmie Johnson. He's hated now, but later in life we'll look at him the same way we've looked at Hamilton for a while now: a complete legend. Just to clarify, I'm not really a fan of Verstappen, as both Canadian patriotism and a love of underdogs lead me to root for Aston Martin.

[@jjharson7344]

this also went for Vettel as well, I disliked him at first, then I caught the interview with him on top car with Jeremy Clarkson, and since then I loved him as his personality came through, my friends still really disliked him until he joined Ferrari then everyone started to love him.... even Alonso had a bit of this, from others, but to be fair I was always a fan of Alonso....

[@eamonahern7495]

Canada can sometimes break cars and throw up the odd obscure result so it might be the one that got away for Red Bull. Or maybe it's just wishful thinking from me.

[@paulmccourt6185]

The the thing is that Nick is 28yrs old not 18yrs he's had plenty of seat time and should be well past the learning process, he should've shown a bit more promise a bit sooner

[@dod_the_angel]

Another cool fact about the Honda engine is they did a trick with their blowoff valve by putting it in a low pressure area and that masked the true peak boost. Rules in 1988 said turbos could only make 2.5 bar of boost but that engine supposedly saw as much as 2.9 bar

[@shitoryu8]

Steve Nichols is the true designer of the MP4/4, Murray is a bold faced liar.

[@ajwasp3642]

Max Backstabben. RBR blows.

[@ChrisBl33p]

Gerhard Berger was the 1 in 15-1

[@RACECAR]

Ironic that the closest car to beating a Dominant Honda powered car in F1.. is similarly dominant Honda powered car. Funny how that worked out. Granted, the Italian Grand Prix hasn't happened yet so there still is time for an...intervention of sorts. Maybe we'll have another random track invasion and THAT's the day Ferrari get that win and break the strangle hold. Think about it: Its already happened 7 times before (Including last year) and they interestingly keep dipping between even numbered years and odd numbered years and last year was an Even numbered Year. Wouldn't be the first time its happened two years consecutively if it does as the last time was 2003 and 2004. Just sayin'.... Also, I am more and more convinced that Mansell was cursed, that or had a black cat cross his path at some point. There is no other explanation as to why he had so many odd ways to be out of action. And finally, Senna not having a rage at someone taking him out? That's..odd.

[@madkhaliqfarhan]

It has happened! Max has taken his 10th straight win at Monza, therefore breaking Sebastian Vettel's record... With the Honda engine!

[@banditalley9592]

TV audiences are starting to go down. A whole season of one team wining every race and I'm sure next season will be even less watched. The new regs almost worked - if you take RBR out of the equation then Austria was pretty close across the field. I suppose when Adrian Newey retires things might be a bit closer.

[@1Pandemoonium]

Watched religiously since 2007 and started to give up after Abu Dhabi 2021. Cba with a sport where the race director can make up rules to decide a championship, then a team can get caught cheating, get a slap on the wrist, then start dominating. I basically just check the results now and don’t even bother watching the weekly procession.

[@karlosh9286]

I just rewatched the crash again. stating the blimin' obvious Senna could have waited and easily over taken on the straight !

[@Cal900]

What caused Senna’s disqualification at Brazil?

[@AidanMillward]

Something to do with an illegal car change. Might be something to look up.

[@Tacko14]

I’d like for it to happen once, just for the history books. But it really should’ve happened already, with Mercedes. They were so dominant since 2014, they should have had it in the pocket.

[@TheRip72]

Did you also notice that McLaren finished either 1st, 2nd or DNF in 1988. RB have already failed to do that this season.

[@billgulker6187]

2023 should go down as the most uncompetitive season in F1 history. I think they will lose a lot of casual fans as a result.

[@RACECAR]

The same casual fans that thought real F1 functioned exactly like what they saw on Drive to Survive? God forbid they watch the 2010 - 2013 seasons or the 2000-2005 seasons or even the 1988 season briefly mentioned in the video (which is funny enough the closest comparison to this season so far as it features an aggressive and at times emotional driver sitting atop the standings while driving a car powered by Honda).

[@billgulker6187]

@@RACECAR Non of the seasons you referenced where as uncompetitive as this season will be when it’s all over

[@rossrreyes]

Enzo Ferraris ghost

[@MrSniperfox29]

Honestly I think the reason Senna didn't become enraged was because he knew he'd made a mistake in pre-guessing that Schlesser would go off into the gravel trap and didn't anticipate him being able to recover control of the car. Also while Schlesser did indeed apologise for the move at the time, years later he was somewhat unrepented about it, and even went as far as to claim McLaren should thank him for "Keeping them hungry"

[@Woodie-xq1ew]

He also may have let Schlesser off because of his inexperience in F1 cars. You can’t rag on a guy too hard for making a mistake in his first race

[@sergioleone3583]

It wasn't Schlesser's fault that Senna was impetuous (as at Monaco earlier in the season) and didn't wait until the Curve Grande to pass.

[@MrSniperfox29]

@@Woodie-xq1ew He had no issues doing that to Eddie Irvine when Irvine dared unlap himself.

[@Woodie-xq1ew]

@@MrSniperfox29 one was a concious decision the other a mistake, kind of apples to oranges

[@MrSniperfox29]

@@Woodie-xq1ew and unlapping himself was completely legal. Senna just got pissed because someone dared do it to him

[@ZeroCrystal]

Better than Nigel Mansell and weird injury? Maybe Vince Russo and the WCW Championship back in the late '90, bro. Good times, bro.

[@AidanMillward]

Finger poke of doom bro

[@ZeroCrystal]

@@AidanMillward And of course, "Hoak Hoagan, you Pizzashit!" The phrase that launched a lawsuit, and should've launched about ten thousand memes.

[@Holden308]

Alain Prost won the World Drivers' Championship in 1985, 1986, 1989 and 1993. He finished 2nd in 1983, 1984, 1988 and 1990. 51 wins (35 turbo, 16 non-turbo). 33 poles (17 turbo, 16 non-turbo). 41 fastest laps (25 turbo, 16 non-turbo). Artyon Senna was World Champion in 1988, 1990 and 1991. He finished 2nd in 1989 and 1993. He finished 3rd in 1987. 41 wins (14 turbo, 27 non-turbo). 65 poles (29 turbo, 36 non-turbo). 19 fastest laps (10 turbo, 9 non-turbo). As team mates (1988-89): Wins - Senna 14 (8 turbo, 6 non-turbo), Prost 11 (7 turbo, 4 non-turbo) Poles - Senna 26 (13 turbo, 13 non-turbo), Prost 4 (2 turbo, 2 non-turbo) Fastest Laps - Prost 12 (7 turbo, 5 non-turbo), Senna 5 (3 turbo, 2 non-turbo) Total Points - Prost 186 (105 turbo, 81 non-turbo), Senna 154 (94 turbo, 60 non-turbo)

[@MScotty90]

The poles vs fastest laps between them is very interesting, Senna has twice the poles but Prost has twice the fastest laps. I would’ve assumed whoever had more poles would naturally have more fastest laps as well, but I guess that isn’t so.

[@RukaGoldheart]

It seems like one of them was more consistent.

[@McLarenMercedes]

@@MScotty90 Prost was very easy on the car in the race which meant that he could nurse tires, brakes, engines and transmissions to do their best during the race when it really mattered. He was a very smart driver who drove tactically and always set up a car well in race trim. During the first turbo-era when cars frequently broke down if driven beyond their limit this was truly exceptional. He wasn't called the Professor for nothing. An example of Prost's driving would be the 1986 Australian Grand Prix. After the race both the McLaren cars of Prost and his team mate (1982 World Champion) Keke Rosberg were checked. Rosberg had retired while leading what was his final race in F1 with just 20 laps to go... Prost won the race after Mansell's tyre went bust and Piquet did a pit-stop for fresh tires. Btw, Rosberg too had retired with tire issues. Being easy on the tires won Prost the race and his 2nd title (by 2 points from Mansell). Anyways, McLaren checked both Prost's and Rosberg's cars and found that the brake calipers of Rosberg's cars had worn down to almost nothing. Had he not retired with the tire issue he might have retired due to brake issues a few laps later. Prost's brake calipers were still in good condition and almost could be re-used for another race. And here's the surprise, Prost's fastest lap was 1.20:979 while Rosberg's was 1.21:900. So Prost still managed a fastest lap almost a *full second* faster than Keke Rosberg in the same car and didn't wear down his tires or brakes nearly as much. That says it all really. And never "assume" anything. Much of the world's great ills and tragedies comes from people assuming things. Aristotele assumed objects twice as heavy fall twice as fast but never bothered to check whether that actually was true in a simple experiment. For many centuries people also "assumed" he was right.

[@Holden308]

​@@McLarenMercedes ... here is a fun fact. When Senna was forced to take over the spare McLaren MP4/4 at the start of the 1988 Brazilian Grand Prix, the team literally only had time to adjust the pedals in the car to suit the taller Senna. The spare was actually Prost's original race car, but he also had use of the spare that weekend and preferred it. Anyway, Senna drove the first half of the race until they black flagged him for changing cars after the green flag was shown on the parade lap in a race car that had Prost's settings. Senna found that they were better than his by being easier on the car, faster, and that they actually suited his driving style. So every race from then on, Senna simply copied Prost's settings for the cars.

[@Edelweiss1102]

@@MScotty90 I think this just comes down to the philosophy of the 2 drivers and the inherent difference between qualifying and an actual race lap, even if they may seem similar. Qualifying was Senna's strong suit cause it fitted his attitude the best, go out with a car trimmed to be as fast as possible and just inch out every tenth you can. His many poles are a testimony to this. There are a lot more components that go into a fast lap during a race. The car gets lighter as it burns fuel, you have tire wear and other mechanical parts that get worn out, you have other racers, either battling you directly or you are lapping them. Prost was an absolute master of minimizing the wear on his car and waiting for the right opportunity to strike. He'd often use qualifying to try to find the ideal race set up rather than trying to be as fast a possible like Senna. During the race, he drove rather defensively, trying not to wear down his car that much. Then after he became much lighter due to burning fuel, with fresher tires and a less worn out car, and many of his opponents already having retired due to technical failures, Prost would strike and smack down many of his fastest laps. He was called "the professor" for a reason. Senna was faster over 1 Lap, but Prost was overall way more constant and fast when he needed to be.

[@hugoagogo9435]

Ahem I think you forgot maldonado in your top drivers list. Jim Clark no1 for me. So much success in so many different series. Before my time but the more I’ve learned about him over the years the more in aw I am. All the other greats just don’t seem so great in comparison

[@caincha]

Do people indeed still complain about a 'dominant team'? It's been like that since forever... worse, it has been like that before Red Bull, before Mercedes and so on... Actually have you ever made a video about 2 seasons in a row where there weren't a dominant team? I mean it would have to be 2 seasons in a row to be considered dominant, wouldn't it..? If not then make it a video about just the one season then - pretty sure there weren't many of those... 🤔

[@dirk6001]

Being born in 1990 end calling yourself old? Really? 😀

[@F-Man]

Schlesser was a paid actor.

[@A-BYTE64]

I think that perfect season is impossible, because for example imagine that Verstappen had mechanical failure and RB would have not won the spanish GP. Car is super fast, but Perez is not enough.

[@rensuchan]

I agree with your take. If Perez was strong enough to always bet at the front with Max I could see it happening, but Perez just isn't good enough IMO. All it might take is one bad race, one weird qualifying result, or one engine penalty at a track where it's difficult to overtake to change everything.

[@kickstartmotoart]

Is the volume of fuel affected by temperature anyone? Thanks

[@channonrobinson5361]

Yeah most things expand and retract with temperature

[@TheVeyron623]

@@channonrobinson5361 Which is why fuel is measured in kilograms rather than litres in the regulations these days. Mass is unaffected by temperature.

[@kickstartmotoart]

Thanks for that info.

[@guessundheit6494]

No points system will satisfy everyone, the one I hated most was 10-6-4-3-2-1 because it weighted wins too heavily. The current system is good for (almost) ensuring every team scores at least once per season. NASCRASH should adopt "20 best results" (use FIM points scoring, top 15) and drop their ludicrous "playoff/chase". A driver can come back into contention with a late season string of wins.

[@tangerinedream7211]

Hope RB dont clean up, can imagine the smug yet self depriciating words that moaning Jack Horner will spout, nevr mind Helmet Barko.

[@madkhaliqfarhan]

Carlos Sainz Jr has singlehandedly ended Red Bull's dominance at Singapore tonight!

[@Cheaphorsepower]

It's all the same, only the names will change Every day, it seems we're wastin' away Another place where the faces are so cold I'd drive all night just to get back home I'm a cowboy On a steel horse I ride I'm wanted dead or alive Wanted dead or alive

[@SpaceHCowboy]

Alrite Bon Jovi. Calm down.

[@Cheaphorsepower]

@@SpaceHCowboy hahahahah hey man he said it! Lol got me in the mooood

[@cosmostrek2001]

Ferrari paid off f1 to let them win as a tribute to Enzo

[@karacop78]

Only a freak accident would stop RB from winning all races, and even that would be too much for this universe to manage.

[@RACECAR]

I mean, we did see Maldonaldo win a F1 race in 2012 (and then saw the Williams Garage catch fire afterwards) so I wouldn't rule out something funky happening.