History Of Gypsy Jazz / Jazz Manouche and Django Reinhardt

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[@MusicWeRemember]

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[@hey.guitarbjorn]

Thank you for you work and passion for gypsy jazz, Denis!!🙏

[@duved]

Great content Denis! You are really making order from chaos. I would like to add how much Django was influenced by Duke, tunes like Speevy and Mystery Pacific for example are practically covers. Thanks for the shout out!

[@DenisChangMusic]

You know I have to say this: אני עלול לאחר

[@FerKenobii]

I was so sad at the end of the video because I want to hear more !!! Thank you a lot !!!

[@sarahgronquist]

Watching this again. Thanks very much for sharing this info.

[@alisonCNboy]

Lovely tune 🧏🏻‍♀️

[@danna6974]

I appreciate your work

[@MattLeGroulx]

Wow Denis, great video. Thanks so much!

[@joetodaro5733]

Great work Denis

[@emcarnahan]

This is awesome Denis, thank you for the amazing work of all kinds ☺️

[@jeffhildreth9244]

Phenomenal !!! Thanks from So Oregon

[@HenriDucrocq]

Wow, not like I had the time, but I ended up watching til the end - so interesting, thanks Denis.

[@duyle8921]

Thanks for putting out high quality content

[@TheTolkaHotClub]

Loving his ..............well done man !

[@elroymontano8614]

So nice to see Angelo Debarre behind the scene jams for DC music school

[@fretlessblunder]

Excellent. Watched start to finish. Your depth of knowledge and first-hand acquaintance with many of these players makes your historical viewpoint very compelling

[@danielcasas1777]

Thanks a lot! Really interesting information and reflections

[@adampayne6674]

Thank you Denis!

[@bernardwhite4365]

Very informative, thank you Denis.

[@kevinray8649]

Amazing video, thank you for sharing your expertise!

[@jorgeluislinaresmartinez]

Thanks a lot for your generosity Denis!!! Hugs from México!!!

[@JasonAnick]

Great video Denis! Really appreciate you sharing your knowledge and perspective!

[@andymacatack]

wow, don't know how I missed this first time around. Fantastic video Denis. You are the contemporary authority on all this stuff. Thanks for putting it out there!

[@googo151]

WE DON'T HAVE PLACE FOR THAT KIND OF MUSIC? WOW! THAT'S F....K'D UP!

[@JazzViolinPlayground]

Great & informative video Denis!

[@AccordionRain]

Great content, this deserve much more views!

[@AbcDjango]

I love this music and this culture of course. So i've loved every single topic you've explained. Great job Denis!

[@albe1233]

bravo Denis nice and interesting lesson thank you very much

[@StevenWang]

Very informative! Thanks Denis!

[@rickveras5140]

Thank you for this discussion of Sinti , Roma, Manouche , Gypsy, gadjo, etc.

[@GeorgeWillianCondomitti]

What a wonderful video lecture! Congratulations and thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge Denis! You're the best. Greetings from Brazil.

[@mikesciacca]

Thanks, Denis. Your perspective and thoughts are really valuable to have available like this.

[@DenisChangMusic]

Thanks for watching!

[@franklarge1663]

Loved the duo with Angelo Debarre. You guys were having fun!

[@Tupac_Shakur-NL]

Great video!

[@furzgurke37bauer38]

thanks for your vids

[@AbcDjango]

Hi Denis! I've seen this video for the second time with more attention and it was more helpful than before. I absolutely agree about your explainig. You give me more wide vision about this music and of course different interpretations. Thanks so much man, ciao from Italy!

[@zakmartel3022]

Awesome video

[@piotr.soton88]

Ive bought first lesson from DC yesterday. Very high quality stuff. :) Opening tune is amazing!

[@DenisChangMusic]

thank you!!

[@DaniandPietroProjects]

Thanks Denis for the video. It was very informative. I think the definitive statement on the history and origins of "gypsy jazz" is Siv Lie's book. And hey people -- don't ever be that guy @ 1:04:29!

[@brucelee2510]

Latcho dennis you play good

[@willy1986tralara]

All your content is very very good quality. I like how you explain things from the beggining. Thanks for sharing Denis! Pd: excuse my french, i'm spanish (here the gadjos are called "gachós" or "payos")

[@YigitSener]

great job and hell yeah for fapy!

[@raybart5604]

Thanks for the shout out to the U.K. community who kept the Django flame alive when there was little interest elsewhere. Diz Disley basically relaunched Stephane’s career. I was in a band called Gypsy Jazz in the 80s and there was another group with the same name working at that time. Waso with Fapy were popular as well and often toured. The “ Django legacy” film in the 90s kick started the current popularity.

[@diegocastaneda1458]

Desde México, que viva el jazz

[@4cidj4y]

great

[@maravedisresearch]

Great job my dear friend!

[@maravedisresearch]

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[@juanm.rangel9087]

I'm going to have to watch this at least once more. Thanks for putting it together! Viper's Dream is not a Django composition ohhhhh fake news.

[@DenisChangMusic]

I think you re right , i remember thinking that as I said it. It just came out my mouth arrrrgh. Maybe i can edit it out within youtube

[@johnrothfield6126]

Great video! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!!! I was expecting more of a musicological treatment of the topic based on the title. You have touched on the social, musicological, historical, technological, psychological, and linguistic, and theoretical aspects of the topic. I think all these things are important to understand the life we lead. To add to my list above that may apply here: biological (availability of raw materials), medical (Django's injuries), genetic(DNA of Roma), mathematical? I guess what I'm getting at is that any line of inquiry can benefit from a multi-disciplinary approach. (side note: A liberal arts education may be helpful in this age of specialization). I guess musicology Is "interesting" because, (perhaps) the lack of physical evidence prior to the advent of recordings circa 1890.

[@karingriffinelectricacoust8822]

Cheers Thank you for posting this. Fabulous historical perspective…I loved this style from when I was first playing violin (1969) and transcribed many grapelli tunes before I got lost in Jean lu ponti and started working as a musician playing mostly shows, light music in show bands and then more classical in the 1980-1990’s I only recently returned to it about 4yrs ago and find soooo many of the players in Australia fixated on just one way to play…fast! This historical perspective gives a much broader brush stroke and is closer to my memories of those times…although not living in Paris nor from the family groups you mention being heavily influenced by Grappelli, Venuti etc and classically trained as they were having lived at the times you talk about it was actually all about the music and being a working muso…you played and were influenced by others and grew as a musician from those you were lucky to hear (live or on recordings on vinyl or put on real to real tapes ripped off the radio) and play with….I was blessed to grow up in a household that had sooo much great music from all round the world and cultures played almost 24/7 so gypsy, sinti, Hungarian gypsy, all types of jazz & classical has influenced me….well really just all music! great discussion….thanks! Its great that someone has deeply considered all the influences…maybe it shouldn’t be called gypsy jazz at all but rather D’jango music but then as a violinist the influences are more Grapelli….so maybe Grappelli music or we need to say “Hot Club” music! Who knows…and I love the culture of inclusiveness within jam sessions…heaven after the competitive combative classical world! Long may this music live and develop and grow…. Cheers K

[@DenisChangMusic]

HI Karin! Thank you very much for your comment! I really love music history and learning about the social context of said history!

[@karingriffinelectricacoust8822]

@@DenisChangMusic that is very clear from the way you spoke….just lovely to hear it told as I remember it and as I heard from the stories as a young woman…look forward to more…

[@karingriffinelectricacoust8822]

Just wondered if you have the full performance of that violin player and his name….you cut him off before he could play…and as a violinist it’s the core of learning to listen to others, especially would love to hear your take on that side of Sinti/manouche/Gypsy/d’jango/grappelli….👍🤞

[@wiringchen2521]

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[@Anonymous-xd5ek]

Maybe you and Tony Gatlif could collaborate. Perhaps a new “gypsy” musical journey?

[@vicbulbon8821]

thanks for a great and detailed lecture Denis, I know this can be discussed at length, but briefly would you mind describing the differences between the dutch and french accent of gypsy jazz? I've heard that references about the differences several times, but never seen any clear explanations or examples.

[@DenisChangMusic]

Hi Vic, yes it can be discussed in detail indeed hahhaa, but keep in mind that as i mentioned in the videos, things change, and who knows what things will be like 5 years from now, but traditionally Dutch style refers to the school of Stochelo Rosenberg, Jimmy Rosenberg, Feigeli Prisor, Paulus Schafer, etc. They have these long lines / licks that they practiced really well, and copy and paste them on various chords and chord progressions. Some have a bit more instinct and are able to manipulate the phrases a bit more, but by and large, that is the style. Because they have really worked on the phrases , their playing tends to be very clean and “perfect”. In the east of France, namely the Alsace / Lorraine region , of course, many players have licks as well, but generally they are more risk taking and tend to manipulate the phrases in the moment, so it’s generally a lot more improvised. So because of this combination of risk taking and in the moment improvisation, it’s not always perfect, and sometimes when they take huge risks, it’s not always the cleanest. In the east of France, they do a lot of cool rhythmic effects as well and are huge on that. Players like Brady Winterstein, Amati Schmitt , Mayo Hubert, Samson Schmitt, come to mind.

[@Pete_B_773]

Moral of this lecture is, opinions are like a--holes, everyone has one.

[@KyOte13]

Curious what model guitar Duved is playing in the performance… do you remember, Dennis?

[@dstaop]

whats the name of the intro song? great video lesson!!!

[@danalanfranke]

What’s the 1st song name? It’s very pretty and slow enough for a GJ starter for me

[@DenisChangMusic]

Hello, it's actually a Taiwanese folk song called Spring Breeze. Fapy was interested in playing Asian music so we did this! I noticed that due to an editing error, the volume drops by 9db towards the end. Argh!!!! It will be broadcast correctly at the Sakura Django Reinhardt Festival in July facebook.com/sakura.django

[@andresantana516]

Denis, what’s the name of the tune you played with Feigeli? Sounds a bit like bleu citron By the way thanks again for an amazing video!

[@DenisChangMusic]

Hi that’s his composition, but I forget the name!

[@SanMaiero]

Oh oberg oh oberg

[@danalanfranke]

What program did you use to merge them in time?

[@DenisChangMusic]

Final Cut

[@DavidRamos-nz4bh]

I’ve always said it, if jazz guys were cooler more people would like it. There, I said it for you.

[@DavidRamos-nz4bh]

Could you do a video on just the right hand? It seems to do it correctly they seem to play an abundance of downstrokes ( sometimes fast!). Am I seeing things? I love your channel, it’s tops. Thanks.

[@benjaminholt6640]

90 minutes... Damn! Put on a pot of coffee folks!

[@HABLA_GUIRRRI]

ur right --- it is ALL about intention. But having created a world in which TRUST is pretty much bankrupt and replaced by sterile money bought contractional agreement it starts to become proscribed to use ANY word at all for anything at all. Gotta wonder if we can survive this. btw. at 01,00 hr, lovely to hear manouche guitars sounding like the underwear drawer of every good christian should smell.

[@changhong6028]

As far as I know, a majority of Taiwanese people that came before WWII make living by agriculture, and since beef is very expensive and we need buffalos to work for us so people at that time don't eat beef (though they are different species, but both of then are called cow in Taiwan) Also, people tend to eat at home more, since you already grow food ,it's cheaper, and you just have to walk home to eat. However, Han people that came after WWII make a living as being a soldier or as business, plus they don't own land in Taiwan, so they tend to eat outside(at restaurants) a lot more, that is also why it's super hard to find traditional Taiwanese food outside(even till now), but not so hard to find Chinese restaurant Not only did Han people that came after WWII bring in beef eating culture, but also noodle eating(people that came before WWII like to eat rice rather then noodle) and the culture of eating at restaurants --- The term of Taiwanese (language) I believe was created by Japanese when during colonization. They thought it's the language all Taiwanese speak, so they called it Taiwanese rather than Hokkien

[@DenisChangMusic]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@testtone5523]

Taiwan No1 :)

[@jonishrestha-9746]

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[@paulfrei4062]

Thank you for the nice attempt to explain the historical background of the Sinti and Roma. But unfortunately it is wrong. The origin of all Sinti and Roma as well as "Manouche" is India. It is no problem to find out about it yourself. It has absolutely nothing to do with Judaism. It was the expulsion and enslavement by Islam in India at that time that led to this migration of peoples. In Germany, Sinti were mentioned for the first time in the 15th century, and another thing: whether you are a Sinto or a Rom is not decided by your language, music or lifestyle, but solely by your parents' ancestry. There are Sinti and Roma in many countries around the world and they can communicate linguistically, sometimes better, sometimes worse. But communication is possible because the origin is the same, just with different customs and traditions. thanks for your video and interest

[@DenisChangMusic]

I don’t think I said anything about the origins having to do with Judaism. If so, please let me know where. I know there are many theories about why they left, I don’t know which one is the correct one, so I’d rather keep things general. I have some Roma friends who made a theory about Atlantis too… I asked the question about ancestry to many of my Roma and Sinti friends, and they all came up with different answers. Each arguing that theirs is the correct answer. So again, I keep things general. If it’s by your parents’ ancestry, one cannot deny that over the 1000+ years, there has been intermarrying at varying degrees. One of my best friend’s dad is Sinto, and his mom is Roma but he identifies as a Sinto. Another friend has ancestors that married into Jewish families as well. You don’t think it gets complex determining solely by ancestral lineage?

[@DenisChangMusic]

PS: have you ever seen a Rom from Russia or Romania speak to a Sinto from Germany in Romanes? I have and it didn’t work. In fact, I had to translate for them (using French and whatever basic knowledge of Sinti Romanes I have)

[@DenisChangMusic]

PS I ‘m also assuming that you are one or the other and thank you for your comment, I’m always to hear different perspectives! But I asked so many of my friends, and I got so many answers. Some are similar to yours.

[@paulfrei4062]

Atlantis etc. etc. are fairy tales from 1000 and one nights. There is no other way than descent whether one is a Sinto or Roma. The Nazis have already tried to make a bunch of people out of Sinti and Roma, i.e. not a people with culture, tradition and customs. But that is not true because Sinti and Roma are a people, a people from India, with different dialects in the language and different customs and traditions. The dialects are so different that it is sometimes harder and sometimes easier to communicate. Yes, intermarriage has occurred, but it was rare before the 20th century. "Raklo" is not a swear word, it means that it is still a young gadjo and not an old one. They are what their parents are, no matter where they were born. That is a fact. ps. yes, I have had conversations with Russian or Romanian Roms.

[@paulfrei4062]

@@DenisChangMusic yes that's right. A lot of knowledge about our history was lost in the centuries after the expulsion, in the Nazi times through the mass murder of our people and through communism. ps. the original language comes from ancient Sanskrit.

[@migmig9406]

Do Sinti players call Grappelli a gypsy jazz player?! or they just categorized guitarists to be or not to be "gypsy jazz" players?

[@DenisChangMusic]

Don’t think there’s a consensus; i think opinions will vary.

[@karingriffinelectricacoust8822]

I wonder why we need to codify and say if Grappelli is gypsy jazz player….he was part of Django’s hot club and they both influenced each other….certainly in the violin world he was/is considered a gypsy jazz player…and the best at it, the grandfather of that style but actually his piano playing was equally as good….heard him on both instruments in 1974/5 in Australia!

[@migmig9406]

@@karingriffinelectricacoust8822 Yea, I agree with you :) I wish I had a chance to hear him live as well :\

[@karingriffinelectricacoust8822]

@@migmig9406 💕

[@paulfrei4062]

"The father of one of my best friends is Sinto, and his mother is Roma, but he calls himself Sinto. Another friend has ancestors who also married into Jewish families." Where is the problem in this statement of yours? or do you mean to imply that in Judaism only the mother can pass it on? "Don't you think it gets complicated if you only determine by descent?" Mr Chang, what is this nonsensical answer? After your contribution to the history of the music of Django and the Sinti and Roma, I can't help feeling that you are implying that the Sinti and Roma have no identity or ethnicity, based on some statements by people who don't know their own history. Why didn't you do your own research, Google no problem. Do you know anyone who has played this music on a Selmer/Maccaferri before, the way Django played it? We only distinguish between Django's "old style" and the "new style". You know that every musician who plays an instrument, no matter what style of music, finds his own style after a while. You know the saying......you either have style or you don't.......because you can't buy style. If you live in Canada for another hundred years, you will still have the ancestry of your parents, and that's the same with the Sinti and Roma. This is the music we have in our blood and we are happy when other people enjoy it and are interested in playing it.

[@DenisChangMusic]

You are putting words in my mouth that I did not say! I don’t know how fluent you are in English but I think you are putting words in my mouth that I did not say. The topic of identity and ancestry is very complicated, because I also come from an extremely complicated background.

[@paulfrei4062]

@@DenisChangMusic I wonder what their intention is in making such strange statements when it comes to the history of the Sinti and Roma, because the origin is clear. Nothing is complicated there. But one should already have a certain competence. I don't think you have this competence to clarify the origin and the music of the Sinti and Roma. They are what their ancestors were before them and nothing else, and that's the way it is with all people.

[@DenisChangMusic]

@@paulfrei4062 I agree with you that I don’t have the competence, which is why this video is about the music first and foremost. That intro part is but a brief moment where I don’t go into details precisely because I don’t have the precise answers, and only talk about my experiences with my friends. I will leave it at that , but I will also tell you that for some reason, you are changing a lot of what I said or assuming that I am saying things that I did not say. The topic of identity is extremely complex. THat’s where I’ll leave it