Denny Hamlin: They Just Don't Value Us

Denny Hamlin takes questions on NASCAR Playoff Media Day in Charlotte and throws some cold water and recent reports a charter deal for 2025 is close to finalization.
Denny of course is the co-owner of 23XI Racing with Michael Jordan.
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[@MrBumbles2]

greed destroys everything , soon nascar will not exist

[@stevemcentee2880]

The teams are just as greedy.

[@aaronhobart6223]

NASCAR is not going anywhere anytime soon they will always sell tickets and be on tv

[@YankeeDoodle2]

​@aaronhobart6223 Nope they can go away

[@JJj-sb5pz]

I thought is was moving to Amazon and other platforms now. Not TV. TV doesn't seem to want it either. Just watch? They don't give a fluke.

[@RippingItAllSportsCards]

Everyone is making more money than ever before.

[@noahsathletics]

Didn’t need all this in the 90s when the sport was huge.

[@JonathanStrome]

No it wasn't, never heard of nascar before Dale SR. wrecked.

[@Tracer414]

I SAID IT BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN... NASCAR does not have the ultimate say so with regards to negotiations. If the team owners, the drivers, their teams, and the sponsors all agree to sit out two races in a row, the amount of advertising money, ticket sales, TV network backlash, and fan resentments would be astronomical. If you want NASCAR and the France Family to listen? Hit them were it hurts.

[@deliriouswhome1]

Actually they kinda do ,when comes to the charters.. What Hamlin didn't acknowledge was the owners aren't willing to budge on permanent charters. Both sides are responsible for nothing getting done yet.

[@p4rtysm4shr]

If everyone would do it it might work but you know for a fact 1 or 2 small teams would show up and run by themselfs for the money and playoff spot if its reg season. Not say it still would work tho even if a couple showed up

[@BillyPendergrass]

What's he going to do when the smaller team owners get fed up with the bigger teams and sign a new agreement? The teams can threaten all they want but at the end of the day, NASCAR will move on past them and continue on. There's always going to be someone who wants to own a cup team.

[@GOAT4Ever29]

the show will go on, they dont care, they will bring out richard in his old car to make laps if worse comes to worse

[@pauldaniel4095]

The current charter deal teams must show up to all 36 races to get paid

[@thomasbarrett3175]

Denny and MJ aren't being forced to stay in Nascar. They can sell their charters, shop, equipment and get out of the business.

[@chuckbeckley7894]

Exactly instead Hamlin wants to go I would in public and chastise NASCAR. Why don't he just sell his team Get out of the sport since you don't like the way they operate. You knew the rules when you bought the charters to begin with now you're crying about him and trying to get the rules changed.. 🤣

[@billjones8950]

@@chuckbeckley7894well when that happens you end up with the problem the PGA tour had. What do you do when all your top competitors do jump ship?

[@wvwillis]

​@chuckbeckley7894 he is probably using MJ's lawyers...the ones who built his empire. Greed! Bye bye America Racing.

[@jaytaylor3642]

I don’t know anyone that’s a fan of NASCAR. We are all fans for the drivers and teams. I think you all should form your own league.

[@pingdis]

I'm a fan of NASCAR - that's what brings the drivers and teams each week. No NASCAR, no drivers and no teams. Duh.

[@shaynejenkins446]

LOL good luck.

[@Jellobandito1]

Can she get any closer with the phone Lmao 💀💀

[@JonathanStrome]

Thought she'd stick it on Denny's face eventually. Reporter must of been high on smokes. 🚬

[@TheMainLead]

He nailed it with that last line. People tune in for the personalties

[@MikeMc-512]

The only personalities we get to know are the guys in the booth. The drivers are too special and delicate to be made accessible to the public.

[@davidruthenbeck4038]

I'm not a fan of Denny but he's got a very legitimate point, what I don't understand is why aren't other teams backing him and when I backing I mean following doing the same thing. There is strength in numbers.

[@nathancorey4700]

NASCAR has been terrible since they changed the points system. I used to watch every race on TV. I also went to four or five races a year. Now I hardly ever watch it on TV, and I never go to a race. The playoff system is just plain stupid. No other form of racing does this And the stupid stage racing, is the worst idea ever.

[@richardharding8248]

Wish i could. Times are tough. You got this

[@ronbelanger4113]

It is called "Laughcar" for very valid reasons.

[@Richard-1Racing]

Jokecar

[@JonathanStrome]

You high on cigarettes! 🚬

[@groovelife415]

NASCAR values sponsorship money more than the racing product they produce. That includes drivers and all the team members. I'm surprised NASCAR hasn't attached a sponsor to the charter deal, and called it the Subway Eat Fresh 2025 Charter Deal.

[@ray31129]

Denny is 100% correct. NASCAR needs the talent for their product so fans will buy tickets

[@wvwillis]

Nascar has 98% signers. Don't need Denny or Bubba. There are plenty of drivers ready to move in...who aren't cry babys.

[@ray31129]

@@wvwillis if we let all the crybabies leave NASCAR wouldn’t be able to have a full field. I have watched NASCAR for 50 plus years, I’m tired of them making all the rules benefit their pockets and not paying the talent more fairly. I also get tired of all the rule changes that affect every team. Viewership has been dropping for a while now but somehow the new TV agreement that added AMAZON, was the biggest they have ever signed. Let these teams, especially the small to mid size get a return on their 20 million dollar investment. NASCAR controls EVERYTHING. They are greedy. Hope you enjoy watching drivers no one knows drive in a few years.

[@2jimszrnorth802]

I've never been a Hamlin fan, But I 100% agree with him. Nascar is all about money. The teams and drivers literally are not turning a profit. And it's sad that small chartered teams don't even have a chance to race.

[@wvwillis]

Drivers aren't making tons of money? Open your eyes!

[@earllewis7935]

No one Values Denny Hamlin! Hes responsible for The Bubba Wallace Machine in Nascar! And getting Michael Jordan involved in the Sport. Nascar had enough problems, without bringing Bubba W, and Michael J in the mix. I hope bad luck stays with Denny Hamlin, as long as hes in Nascar racing. Please Denny, slap that wall tomm at the race! Do us all a big favor!

[@justcody6068]

Ngl we need More people who are not afraid to speak up just like Denny Hamlin

[@walkerking3875]

the more Hamlin speaks up, the more Real Fans boo him

[@justcody6068]

@@walkerking3875 you hate him because he beat your favourite driver

[@walkerking3875]

@@justcody6068 the word favorite does not have a u in it, derp

[@zt5547]

@@walkerking3875 "real fans" boo everything not related to Dale Earnhardt lol

[@walkerking3875]

@@zt5547 real fans boo toyotas

[@jaredchampagne2752]

I’m so glad Denny is speaking out, and he is 100% correct. NASCARs greed and selfishness to be the mega closed minded overlords and only feeding the teams pennies is why the sport has drastically declined over the past decade. If something doesn’t change, the sport will die.

[@wvwillis]

...says a driver who takes home 20M+ annually...he thanks you for all the money you send his way (he gets some even if you only watch on tv) but sounds like he needs a little more.

[@Wendy____]

In 1960s a bunch of notable drivers tried to go up against Nascar. That didn't go as planned. The Race Team Alliance formed in 2014. Now you have this issue. We'll see how it plays out.

[@stevemcentee2880]

Forget the stupid charters and go back to the fastest 40 cars make the field. It was MUCH better racing back then.

[@North-101-Racing]

Cool back marker teams that won't compete for the wins.... brilliant idea.

[@martysmith9601]

it would be nice if we could hear the questions .

[@StevoF-4]

Do a Dry Run test with social network and tell fans not to show up to a certain track…. Then do a head count there.

[@wegottafishdude]

Boy boy is he turning quick

[@Just_a_beaver]

Claire B Lang always noddin that noggin chompin that gum

[@ashketchumsdad]

At this point, I'm surprised NASCAR hasn't made a ridiculous rule about owners driving to essentially remove Denny or Brad from the racecar

[@CustomNomad2012]

I don't have a problem with an owner driving for the team they own. It's ridiculous to own a team and drive for another. Name another sport that would allow that.

[@ashketchumsdad]

@@CustomNomad2012it's not that big of a deal. It has not changed the sport in any way whatsoever. The only ones that could have questions to ask are the manufacturer, the team owner, sponsors and the crew chief. And in both Dale Earnhardt and Denny Hamlin's case, they still ran well. If anything Denny's performance improved.

[@Unknown-w6b8n]

@@ashketchumsdad Denny's improved ???

[@djmohab2]

@@ashketchumsdad It was a big deal when Godhardt got himself killed blocking recklessly for cars he owned, at the expense of a different team that he raced for.

[@ashketchumsdad]

@@Unknown-w6b8n yes Denny's numbers are better now than they were in 2015

[@mobrooks9722]

Unionize now!

[@southysmototonysouthwell1779]

I'm glad Denny has the balls to stand up and fight for what is right.

[@rlh4331]

Denny is fighting for greed when 98% of the teams have signed. He makes over $20Mm a year, boo hoo.

[@chance2enzo]

​@@rlh4331 Thank you, Bubba and Tyler are worth 5 million each. Doesn't even include all the perks of being a driver. Yet fans believe their victims.

[@pingdis]

Without NASCAR, Denny is a nobody.

[@EndlessFlameout4]

​@@pingdis that's like saying without the NBA Stephen Curry is a nobody.

[@shaynejenkins446]

@@EndlessFlameout4 Steph could find another league to play in and get paid, albeit not as much. There isnt that option for Denny.

[@tonyleach9805]

I was a fan way back when they still ran real cars and there was a start and a finish and you accumulated points till the end,back when nascar was great! Now the France family wants it to be something it’s not with their garbage next gen car and squeezing every dollar they can out of fans and car teams! Good to see Denny taking a stand!

[@dcaseng]

Nascar forced the big teams to bend the knee, leaving the smaller teams vulnerable and weak to fight back. Never been a fan of Hamlin on the track, but he's got guts leaving himself out on a limb to try and fight the good fight. Sad to see so many Nascar fans defend Nascar and their stranglehold on the sport. These teams are what generates interest in the sport, not the France family, and they deserve a bigger slice of the pie. The only thing Nascar has granted these owners is the charter system, and they keep trying to take that back every chance they get.

[@undergroundkingsgarage3215]

DENNY SPEAKING BIG FACTS

[@covetedpixel3238]

He is correct! NASCAR does not care about him, nor should they. It never should be about him, it should be about the fans. I hope he takes his marbles and goes away, once and for all, he has always been a bit self-absorbed, but it is reaching new, and irritatingly high proportions.

[@Thegeneralms1]

The France family has to big monopoly between owning the sport and owning tracks. It’s time for the courts to break that up

[@robertmarquez9841]

I love Denny and NASCAR has gone down the toilet. Used to rock.

[@teranceparker4728]

The clash is dead and they can't find a way to bring it back to Daytona. To explain the first text.

[@TeddyRekk]

I'm glad Denny and MJ are the only ones with balls in the garage anymore.

[@shaynejenkins446]

They wont be racing next year unless they sign it. They have zero negotiating power.

[@TeddyRekk]

@@shaynejenkins446 I think NASCAR losing MJ is worse for NASCAR than MJ losing NASCAR. He takes his money and rolls and that’ll look very bad for NASCAR

[@samueldorman2814]

Go Denny but all this outspokenness is gonna make it hard on him during the Chase when its essentially run by the officials with headsets on.

[@deliriouswhome1]

To be fair.. owners are asking for permanent charters and arent willing to budge, it seems on this issue. I dont really blame nascar, that would complete change the dynamics of the sport.

[@ScottXC91]

Why shouldn’t they be permanent? It’s literally the only tangible thing the teams have.

[@zt5547]

Team pays $40 million for a charter, of course they want it to be permanent.

[@deliriouswhome1]

@@ScottXC91 charters arent tangible.. there actually one the only thing that's not for any team. tangible is something you can see and touch.

[@deliriouswhome1]

@@zt5547 that's incorrect information.. Charters are only 25-30 million.. and that being generous.. For example 23IX , only paid 13.5 in 2021 for the charter from Starcom racing. The purpose of a charter is simply guarantee a spot in every race and a share of the winning purse.. There really no reason for them to be permanent..

[@JJ-zd5ld]

The charters have ruined NASCAR. Never should have uncorked that genie.

[@walkerking3875]

report says only 23XI and Front Row have not signed the new Charter Agreement. Frankly if they do not like the terms then they can leave the sport

[@Jpilgrim30]

Literally NO ONE like the direction of NASCAR and you think the people standing up to them are the problem? Do you honestly believe teams like Hendrick and others are happy with the terms instead of just throwing their hands up and signing because of the stubbornness of NASCAR? Don’t let your hatred of a certain driver or team lead you to defend the idiocy of those running the sport into the ground.

[@walkerking3875]

@@Jpilgrim30 i like the direction of NASCAR as long as they eliminate the woke DEI crap

[@Jpilgrim30]

@@walkerking3875 nobody likes the direction of Nacar. Burton takes a playoff spot as a back marker from someone who could actually compete because he won a single race? This isn’t Nascar anymore this is a joke like WWE wrestling

[@RobertDetert]

Hes right..and I don't even like Denny Hamlin.

[@JonathanStrome]

You too, and I don't like you too.

[@DonSmith-q5h]

If Nascar wants to be great, go back to that they did when they were great

[@XXXX-j1i]

This is what’s wrong with this country we all will not stand together

[@gracepappas3018]

Good seeing you in the back . NASCAR is probably sick of your motormouth.Not a shock your the complainer non stop. You’re not as great as you think you are. Hope you get to stay in the back rest of the season.

[@benjensen8341]

With the charter system they should have some pull. They paid money to have a spot, so if they all parked the race cars NASCAR shouldn't be able to make a race.

[@errolflynn4984]

For all you Hillbillies who are sick of Denny commenting on the state of affairs within NASCAR. Think about this…..what if he is absolutely correct . The whole argument becomes scary…for everybody. Just maybe all the other teams have rolled over and given up, and will take whatever NASCAR says. Denny is standing up and saying no!!!! How about a fair deal. If he loses, there goes your sport🤷‍♂️

[@augustusappling139]

you invested in the system that was already in place. They dont owe you anything. If you overpaid that is your fault

[@chance2enzo]

Hamlin is worth 65 million dollars. Bubba 3.5 -4 million Tyler Reddick 5 million dollars. That doesn't include all the perks to being a driver received such as products, hand me outs and so on. Sorry Denny, have a difficult time feeling sorry for millionaires acting like they are going to go homeless.

[@Herecomesthethruth]

The fact this conversation is taking place is the actual problem

[@teranceparker4728]

I believe they aren't happy with NASCAR is because they don't want to give the good old days when Speedweeks matters to entertain the fans is that short tracks are killing the time to enjoy February like we as fans do that's all the problem is.😮😊

[@1revlimit]

Huh?

[@jeremysimpson1432]

Please but the liquor bottle down before you start commenting.

[@TeamAbrams]

@@jeremysimpson1432 I swear like 90% of NASCAR KZbin comments read exactly like his comment. Just totally incoherent babbling about how "I dOn'T wAtcH nO mOrE aIn'T dA sAmE sInCe DaLe dIeD nOw HeReS mY oPiNiOn oN wHaT haPeNeD lAsT wEeK"

[@jeremysimpson1432]

@@TeamAbrams bro!!!!! Right!!! I get so tired of that. It’s like he died 23 years ago… if you stopped watching when he died how do you know so much about the sport and constantly comment now! The charter system is alittle F’ed right now and the playoff system needs a little work…. But I have been on the edge of my seat almost every single race the last 2 years….. nascar is doing just fine! If they were doing terrible and rating were down…. explain why a company like Amazon is going to be streaming events? They don’t invest in failing companies

[@racegrubb2152]

​@@TeamAbrams😂😂😂😂😂. You got that shit right lol

[@shaynejenkins446]

MJ doesn't want Bubba anymore. That's the only reason he isnt signing. Its not about what they are making or not making off the charter.

[@TonyLUpchurch]

I think Danny might have thought that he would be the futures, Roger Pinsky and invest in NASCAR and piggyback off of that to grow his businesses and they’re just not gonna let him do that, those days are over with.. it’s just too hard to control middle-class people that have billions of dollars

[@edblair1]

Denny aint good at business? Other teams can do it?

[@Gary-ks8rz]

For once..I agree with Denny. That's a first.

[@alancarter41]

Evidently all but two teams (23XI and Front Row) have signed. And if they don't run, expect others (Andretti, JRM) to take their charters, or other existing teams to take them. Just like the 1969 Talladega boycott, this will end up being a minor footnote in the history of NASCAR.

[@rpgaun]

Well it’s easy, don’t sign the charter you don’t race…

[@WilliamWallaceRoss]

NASCAR is about the money, the Owners are just a way for them to get that and they believe they aren't going anywhere. Denny winning the Championship might make a statement to NASCAR!

[@Flybynite88]

It’s a private company. If they don’t like it then quit !!

[@racegrubb2152]

So lets say they dont get an agreement and then a bunch of teams decide not to race. How do you think the team sponsors would react to that? I would guess not too f..... Good. I know if i sponsored a team that decided not to race they would loose that money instantly and would never be sponsored again by me. Unless these businesses just like wasting money. I mean most of these sponsor deals for each race are already done. I think it would be a bad idea for any team that did that as far as getting soonsored again.

[@kenmartin1919]

I don’t think next season will begin in February.

[@petertaylor2148]

Denny is a good speaker, he's even tempted and a thinker , planer !

[@alancarter41]

I love parody, good job.

[@walkerking3875]

denny hamlin is over-playing his hand

[@JasonWoods-d1v]

Denny is all about Denny. If he and MJ can’t make enough money as an owner then get out!!!

[@jeffcarine9108]

Let Nascar run races without race car drivers

[@usleadershipareliars]

His side probably should wake up, or they'll be on the outside looking in. "The truth is they keep going in the wrong direction" 23XI and Front row are the only trams who havent signed. Dennys right, he keeps moving in the wrong direction.

[@airops9825]

Why don't the teams step up and start their own series?

[@TopLaneFreightTrain]

Nascar owns 90% of the tracks

[@DabDabGoose]

NASCAR thought all of that after the indy split and bought all the tracks.

[@joe-hp4nk]

You're right, race car drivers are a dime a dozen.

[@georgepaiva7496]

NASCAR has made shady deals that why they refused to deal with them as a group. I’ll bet the top 3 team got a sweet deal

[@mikel.4885]

Nascar shouldnt let them race until they sign....its pretty simple

[@dougaranda6187]

He would be a lot better off if he just refrained from bashing everything and everyone.

[@dougpendleton1266]

Nascar has already lost it's heartbeat, it is just a matter of time before the neural activity is no longer detectable...

[@nicolewembley3093]

Would be funny if Denny won the Championship, then even more bargaining power.

[@rlh4331]

Nascar was here before Denny Hamlin and will be here after Denny Hamlin. Only 2 teams haven't signed, the sport will continue - can't wait for Daytona 2025 without 23XI. Denny reminds me of Pat Ewing in the 90's when the NBA was on strike. "We make a lot of money, but we spend a lot too". Denny needs a perspective.

[@DabDabGoose]

Nearly all teams are in the red, only Nascar is in profit.

[@victorwanstreet3038]

Why should teams get more the teams and drivers make millions every year

[@AnthonyBaker-f2w]

Bring on the split if you go in to any kind of racing your going to too lose your butt.

[@michaelhertzog7093]

And now you see why Stewart is backing out his team from Nascar. It's a complete shitshow now. That should have been a wakeup call for everyone.

[@racerguy6979]

Is that his mom next to him???

[@timothywinters7304]

30 drivers walk out . Nascar will wake up quickly.

[@JJ-zd5ld]

30 new drivers will step in

[@billjones8950]

NASCAR needs nos and turbos.

[@jamesfriss4149]

NASCAR is out of control

[@79JamesC]

I’m all for tradition and legacy but the Francis family either needs to get with the program or get out of the way. NASCAR has a chance to be great again and NASCAR is sabotaging it

[@ScottXC91]

I legitimately hope Denny wins the championship this year.

[@JoseGarcia-hk3mk]

I used to watch NASCAR but not so now since they went WOKE . I am more into OUTLAW DIRT LATE MODELS , SPRINTS and others.

[@jermainerowe9541]

M.O.E

[@doggchannel3464]

And nascar keeps sucking worse and losing fans.

[@wvwillis]

Denny, stop whining Mr. MULTIMILLIONAIRE. Do you think you're not valued while Nascar and Denny continue to to pile up the profit?

[@TheOfficialRandomGuy]

I see a NASCAR split coming

[@North-101-Racing]

Nascar owns all the tracks

[@TheOfficialRandomGuy]

@@North-101-Racing only 13

[@claychamlee884]

​@@North-101-RacingSMI owns half of them.

[@North-101-Racing]

@@TheOfficialRandomGuy which isn't Daytona

[@TheOfficialRandomGuy]

@@North-101-Racing and your point is?

[@leonarda.troupejr.6221]

BUT THE ONLY PERSON YOU WILL NOT SEE IN THE PICKET LINE AT A NASCAR TRACK, OR ANYWHERE IS RICK HENDRICKS BECAUSE NASCAR COWERS DOWN TO HIM, AND KISSES HIS ASS!!!! Here’s AN EXAMPLE WHEN JACK ROUSH HAD (5) CAR TEAMS, AND RICK HENDRICKS SAID YOU DON’T NEED MORE THAN (4) CAR TEAMS, AND NASCAR SAID YES YOUR RIGHT SO THE MADE JACK ROUSH GET RID OF HIS FIFTH TEAM!!!!

[@yoadrian12]

Who’s Rick Hendricks? A man named Rick Hendrick ran a partial fifth car in 2005 and 2006 at the same time as Roush.

[@Richard-1Racing]

If the other teams have signed as stated in a lower post they are Idiots ,. Jokecar is like a dictatorship and always has been...........

[@Richard-ht7ec]

Asscar's fall is nearing...I haven't watched a race this year and don't plan on it

[@genewilliams164]

Nascar is family owned and are greedy there not going to give the teams a fair deal.....they should park there car....no car's no racing, no money for nascar

[@racegrubb2152]

They can, but if I sponsored one of them teams that decided to not run those races I would pull my sponsorship out permanently and would never sponsor any race team ever again. I don't think the sponsors would like that too much

[@1970sRacing]

we-they---who is they?

[@jaredchampagne2752]

The France family. The boomer incompetent leadership thats stuck in the past.

[@robertwyatt2720]

Give me a break the reason you guys don’t do it good you’re not in the Chevrolet get rid of Toyota creep at

[@LarryNolan-f9s]

Hamlin quit whinning

[@chuckbeckley7894]

Quit your whining Denny Go home cry to Mommy. Your team is no better than any other team. Why do you and Michael think you are so much better than all the rest of the team owners?? If everyone was against it they would not have signed the contract?? You are the only team whining about it making a big deal and all it's going to do is hurt you in the long run..

[@90MHOTMUD]

here is a thought... hey DENNY,,, get rid of BUBBA and put him back in go-karts and hire a real driver stop playing the race card with him all the time and you might get some respect...

[@Efffshams]

Shamlin Karen as usual

[@1970sRacing]

Denny is always complaining

[@zt5547]

How dare he as a team owner fight for his own team ... He should just become a poppet like the rest of them, right?

[@rickbaxter3919]

Are there no other car owners they could be interviewed, people are getting sick of this boring hack.

[@TopLaneFreightTrain]

Get a life

[@slipnot555fingerdeathpunch7]

Maybe its because Nascar don't really like WOKE..

[@walkerking3875]

Hamlin is LYING about wanting to make the sport better

[@gruntinghorse3282]

Why would he lie? What reason does he have to lie? He's literally just trying to make the millions of dollars that he invested worth it. Think past the hate you have for him.

[@zt5547]

I'm sure he put so much money into 23XI because he wants to ruin the sport and lose money, right?

[@walkerking3875]

@@gruntinghorse3282 no hate, i can spot a phony. he wants to take power away from NASCAR so he can selfishly make more money

[@walkerking3875]

@@zt5547 lose money? he has a private airplane. woe is denny hamlin

[@The_DiamondDave88]

Leave nascar. All drivers. Start your own league. Nascar sucks as an organization