DENON S970H - Why I'm Returning It

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

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[@MandrakeCigars]

Just bought the S970H for $399 on sale today. Thanks for the video!

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Nice!

[@stinkfinger]

Well crap, I bought the 970 yesterday too... paid a little under $500. Who has it for $399?

[@MandrakeCigars]

@@stinkfinger It was at adorama. The deal showed up on the slickdeals website.

[@appala]

Can you let me know where you bought it for 400? is it new or refurb?

[@allenletizia321]

@@stinkfinger I just s970H 7.2 paid 476.99 . list was 800.00 at Best buy . Having a sale plus install it whole system 2300.00 . list price would been 4000,00

[@jdavideast]

I tried the 760 from Costco and couldn't hear hardly any verbal dialog from streaming through the newest appleTV 4k, even after the calibration. Took it back.

[@josephespino2628]

Thanks for suggesting to use the second HDMI output for HDMI light sync boxes!

[@chargingbadger_]

last week I ordered the Denon 570 BT from amazon. Yesterday it arrived, and I was confused but also ecstatic as what arrived was actually a 970! Paid $280 for an open-box 570 and got a brand new $900 970. Quite the luck.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Nice!!

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

One time I ordered a $400 rug and they sent two. When I tried to return the 2nd they just told me to keep it so I sold it for $300 lol

[@someonelse9]

one time i ordered a technics 1200 gr but got a 1200 g which was thousands of dollars extra. luck well deserved

[@steve95023]

Where did you get the angled stands your using for the front atmos bookshelf speakers?

[@ShaneMelnick-q4j]

I have the same unit and cant get the setup menu to show up on tv out put i have a tcl roku tv and cant adjust the sound threw the set up screen. Anyone have this issue or just me?

[@LittlePlant888]

I just bought the avr-s970h yesterday and I can't even get the thing to get past the setup screen. It gets hung up when the load progress bar is about 80% full. I can't do anything with it other than play sound from my speakers from the TV. I'm taking it back to best buy tomorrow. My first ever AVR and it's a total fluke.

[@thomasjones2071]

That's for informative video, especially the breakdown of the 4k/120hz. Eagles Fan for sure!!

[@avalosound]

What's the difference between 970 and 960? I have the 960H. I'm having major issues with Bluetooth connection?

[@TheWorstGamerr]

I have the same question.

[@GhostpenguinsReptileResort]

Did you figure out how to fix the center channel? I bought this and love everything else about it….. but the center sounds so bad 😖

[@mariobedolla]

Denon s970H vs onkyo NR6050, which one is better for movies and video games!???

[@LuckyClipsLC]

What speaker stands are those that ur using as heights?

[@yardman0001]

Can someone check if your 970 displays DTS HD Master Audio on the panel or info bar on the screen when watch a blu-ray with Master Audio. Mine only shows DTS HD and doesn't show the Master Audio part anywhere. Thanks.

[@PedrotheOscalecollector]

I had a denon 8k receiver it's had so many problems that the sound kept going out and changing up. Also, I bought an emovita m1l basx 9.2 and don't have any problems work fines every time

[@offgridsolaruk843]

What about 3D pass through? Does the 760 have that?

[@mangatom192]

So that's why I can't find the s760h. It's been discontinued for a long while now.😅

[@tragicanomaly1707]

2:24 are you using an S760H for this setup?

[@leonci5639]

My speakers operate in the range of 50-180W. I have a 5.1 setup. Are the 75W per channel underdimensioned for my setup or is it going to be just fine?

[@NATESUCKSATGAMING]

Does this unit even hit 75w on a 5.1 setup? its 90w on 2.0

[@erniewyles8832]

Luckily, I was able to pick up the S970H for $399. I KNOW!!!!!!

[@letsgetdoing]

Same!

[@yardman0001]

Me too.

[@yardman0001]

Can one you check if your 970 displays DTS HD Master Audio on the panel or info bar on the screen when watch a blu-ray with Master Audio. Mine only shows DTS HD and doesn't show the Master Audio part anywhere. Thanks.

[@erniewyles8832]

@@yardman0001 mine does the same. The Spanish and French tracks of the Lord of the Rings Extended 4k Blu-rays have that track, but I only get DTS-HD options and not DTS-HD MA on the panel.

[@therobinsons7862]

Yea I was scared to see why he sent it back. Got this on a deal on prime day

[@desbarry8414]

Bad luck buddy. I bought the new X1700H and have had zero issues, it is for a second system in the bedroom. I think on reflection I would only get models from their X series and avoid the s series, good looking system btw

[@Weezulguy]

Hey Des, looking at the 1700 and the top end S units, what do you specifically like about the 1700? I was spec'ing it out against the 960SH and it looked a little lean to me in some areas

[@desbarry8414]

@@Weezulguy It has better HDMI functionality and NO bugs, like it upscales and switches perfectly without any drop outs . Im in the UK so maybe they only sell the better X range and not the S range. Really happy with my 1700H as Im really only using it with a PC via HDMI and my ITunes on a HDD I got a BD player hooked up too and it sits at the bottom of the bed in our bedroom. Go for the 1700H and skip the other middle units as you wont get a big leap until you go above the thousand dollar mark.

[@Weezulguy]

@@desbarry8414 thank you!

[@nrnoble]

Thanks for the video. What would be some useful functionality for having a second video out? I am assuming that both display the same video out.

[@skaryed]

I have a question. Does the 4k inputs support 4k 120hz or it's only featured in the 8k inputs?

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Only the 8K inputs support 4K 120Hz

[@O.G.Alphaborn]

Hello I am looking at the are you having issues with video clipping. Meaning is the video input being filtered or spec'd on the video output to the TV. I have found that some receivers HDMi will spec the output from the receiver to the TV. Not true HDMI full video spectrum output

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

I have not experienced any issues

[@O.G.Alphaborn]

@Jacob Dark not really an issue a chip limitation. Also I am currently looking at s960h 2.3 hdmi any issues. I have ready some other comments about issue with this and other denon 4k 120 issues. I think unit is one that is not effected by the 4kissue something about the serial numbers

[@S3Breed]

What is the brand name of your dope speakers?? 😊

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

The ones in my living room or home studio?

[@S3Breed]

@@JacobDarkOfficial the one on the video with TV screen in the middle, with mini ones on top of each monitors. Trying to see if they are also here in South Africa. Thanks

[@EndbossTV]

Hey! Thx for the great video. Question, The Denon AVC-X3700H or Denon AVC-X4700H are indeed significantly more expensive. Are the only advantages that I have more channels, for example, if I want to connect 4 Atmos speakers, or are there more advantages? Or are there even advantages of the AVR-S970H that the mentioned ones do not have?

[@Skcoop03]

I'm pretty sure all HDMI inputs are 2.1, not just the 8k ones.

[@drhoeh]

I totally agree with you and I would have gone with the s760 over the s970h if I didn't already find a s970h on sale for the same price. At that point the decision was made for me. I just wish the system had ir inputs and along with analog video inputs for my legacy consoles.

[@troymcdonald]

I got a refurbished 760H on Amazon for $300. Don’t know if I should send it back. Dolby vision on my Dolby vision compatible tv has issues. There seems to be occasional jitter, weird stuff when scenes change (occasionally)… Tv is new and Denton is refurbished… hmm…???

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Yea I would. I know plenty of people do it but I stay away from used or refurbished electronics and cross my fingers hoping I don't run into issues.

[@catminister3327]

how does the s760H compare to pioneers vsx935

[@alexhunter0815]

The price difference is a point which is important. For me, a receiver with only one hdmi output is useless as a broken car

[@bg4406]

I have the 760, but I’m unhappy that I’m unable to connect my Amazon Alexa echo dot to the back by using a 3.5 to rca cable , it didn’t work on any of the rca ports, I tried the phono port and the cd port and the other rca ports and although I did get some sound it was horribly distorted especially when the bass kicked in, I made sure the wires were in correct, I didn’t have this problem on Yamaha or onkyo, does anyone that own the 760 try to connect there Alexa with 3.5 to rca cable??? I’m trying to figure out if I just got a defective unit

[@KrashTheMusician]

Will the 760h work with ps5 3d audio?

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Yes, I have a PS5 and works fine

[@KrashTheMusician]

​@@JacobDarkOfficialcool thanks for the reply man

Great content Jacob! I am helping my old man to setup a 970 and the guy who sold it to us (together with a bunch of other stuff) tried to get aps such as deezer and youtube to stream from my dads phone (S23) to no avail. From his iPhone, the guy is able to stream via airplane. I am thinking..... could there be a true limitation of the 970, of only streaming from apple devices with airplay? is there a work around? Any ideas or heads ups? Thanks!

[@Henderburn2]

I know this is late but I had a similar issue. What I had to do was download the HEOS app and update the HEOS firmware during app setup - not the receiver firmware - and all the streaming options started working for me.

@@Henderburn2 thanks, I will try. Fingers crossed :)

[@tometube1]

Sorry to hijack a thread, but I have a Denon S940H, and I'm trying to hook an original XBox (Mechassault FTW) via Component (RBG?). I'm connected to the TV via HDMI, and I'm getting the impression the components can't be routed to the HDMI to TV. Wtf is the purpose of the component inputs if this is the case? Can someone help me out? I have a native OGXbox to HDMI converter on order, but in the interim, can someone explain why I can't get this to work?

[@docwho10th88]

Yes there are us who need two outputs for our projectors. The tv goes behind a motorized screen. Godzilla is measured in feet and yards..not inches! lol And no, in my room that sucks up sound I need at least 90 watts per channel. I picked up the 970 for only $400. I also got the Denon 2700 for my main theater for $549. Great review btw!

[@rtaustin316]

Thanks for the advice on the S760!

[@TeraqAT]

Does AVR-S970H have new graphical user interface (GUI) in 1080p ? all new X2800H X3800H X4800H etc have updated user interface with new GUI, but i have heard AVR-S970H still have that ugly old interface.

[@ronsworld250]

I loved the video and I am having an issue with the DENON AVR-S970H receiver I just purchased . For some unknown reason, my receiver cuts off randomly for no apparent reason when I increase the volume. I read somewhere that this may occur if your speakers are not able to handle the power. I have some very, very, old Polk surround 5.1 speakers and was wondering if you can recommend a good replacement set of speakers that are compatible with this receiver? I prefer the Polk sound and I loved your setup. Would you mind sharing what type and where you purchased your Polk surround sound system? Thanks so much for any help you can provide.😊

[@kevinvizcainno]

It was your hdmi

[@madcrabber1113]

For what you can buy these for when on sale they are pretty amazing imho. I do not play games though.

[@TheJediRevan]

I have the s760H and love it!

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Same!

[@daniellakatos4130]

Hi! Could you or somebody else help me please? The issue is whenever I connect my PS5 (whether with its own HDMI or a brand new one) the screen goes black and says ‘no signal’, also the AVR does not recognize the device as it writes ‘game’ or ‘xbox’ instead of ‘PS5’ (xbox s actually works properly and we have already tried what happens if it’s not connected or connected at the same time alongside with the PS, and the AVR always gets confused). What could be a possible solution? Thanks for the answers!

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

It's really impossible to diagnose without being there in person to try out different things. If everything fails maybe try to get it replaced

[@jerrygregory4613]

Have you tried 2.1 hdmi cables

[@NateMac000]

Thanks for the review you calmed my FOMO... the 970h is $380 right now at Adorama with coupon.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

What coupon? I show it for $799

[@NateMac000]

@@JacobDarkOfficial CYBEWEE2

[@mattbakker8393]

Would you go with a 770 ($480) which was released on July of this year or the 970 ($525) which was released September of 2022? Anyone have any thoughts

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

I don't think you'll really notice much of a difference performance wise, either should be fine.

[@chas218]

I found a refurbished S970H for $500. I think I might pull the trigger, thanks to your points about the price and all the features. Thanks!

[@Slip_The_Jab]

I’ve found them for $550. Can you put the link for that $500 price?

[@_FLAK_]

I got one at $360.

[@chas218]

@@_FLAK_ Do you have a link?

[@BLown05Navigator]

​@@chas218 $399 on Amazon right at this moment..but only 6 left.

[@chas218]

OMG! I just spent $630 on an x2700h!

[@MrBassfreaq]

Just bought it for only € 469 in the Netherlands. Guess that's a good price. It arrives tomorrow. Can't wait...

[@Deltax5]

Are you sure the 4k ports labeled aren't HDMI 2.1? I think it's bandwidth. We got a place with buddy's with a lg c1. They say it's HDMI 2.1. But it's a 4k 120hz TV. Top end so says the internet. We need a receiver that fulfills the TV.

[@iapiaya]

I really like my S960h I run my PC gaming rig through it and results was great sound of course.(Best Bang for the Buck in my opinion) It identifies my Nvidia 4080 w/Nvidia High definiton Audio aslo with Polk Speakers & 2 subwoofers.I have no issues with 4K at 120hz gaming. I wasn't sure about settling on the Denon AVR S960H but so glad I did.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Sounds like a nice setup you got going.

[@claypyrotech7473]

I just replaced my Onkyo Tx-NR696 to the denon avr-s970h and i notice a big difference on sound. The Denon was a big upgrade for me.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Nice! I was actually thinking of getting the Onkyo TX RZ50 but I've read alot of people have issues with those units so will probably get another Denon when it's time to upgrade

[@Gaming.Monkeys]

In what way did you notice a big difference as I am intrigued.. currently got the older nr686 model below your old onkyo 696 so be great to know

[@canehoyer]

Thanks for your video! I have 2 questions: 1.) Is it possible to built a surround group without using cables just via HEOS as you can do with SONOS oder Bluesound systems? 2.) Is there any delay of video signal from XBOX or PS4/5 passing thru the DENON to TV, as this would be important playing multiplayer shooters?

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

1) I've never used HEOS so not really sure 2) Absolutely no delay, I play both consoles with no issues

[@fredmccarroll3476]

I was going to go with the AVR-S 760H, but with all of the equipment that I need to connect there wasn't enough inputs/outputs according to the Geek Squad technician at Best Buy. And he suggested that I go with the Denon AVR-S 970H. The equipment that I need to connect is a 55 inch TV, two Tascam CD player/recorders, Music Hall turntable, Samsung Blu-ray player, and a Pioneer RT-1020L reel to reel tape deck. I also hope the Denon AVR-S 970H has an auxiliary input so that I can get the sound from my computer through my Klipsch 7.1 speakers when I watch KZbin videos.

[@vdallacorte90]

Nice video matte!

[@Albineitor]

Thank you very much for the valuable information. I will happily buy it on sale in my country for approximately 700 dollars. Greetings.😃

[@sirnate54]

So your saying the s760h is better than the s960h?

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

The S760H is better for me because it has HDMI 2.1 for my consoles

[@sirnate54]

@@JacobDarkOfficial The s960h also has HDMI 2.1. This is what I'm using with my series X.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

@sirnate54 It does but only has one HDMI 2.1 input, I needed two for my PS5 and Series X, if you're OK with one you'll be fine sticking with it

[@sirnate54]

@Jacob Dark Okay. Yeah, the s760h has 3 HDMI 2.1 inputs.

[@blanka4545]

can't ' wait to get mine yeah!

[@danieltrevino4502]

Gracias a este video me dio curiosidad, y busque este equipo, lo encontre "on sale" en BB en 480 dlls!! gracias!!! Because of your video, I got curious, and this past week found it on sale on BB for less tan 500 dlls (one week later is back to regular price $799), so now I have it, and is much better than my last Denon. Thank you

[@pablovi77]

The S970H is around $500 USD and I do need two outputs for my projector.

[@lazarousjam]

Super awesome and informative. Thanks for sharing.

[@bretts1]

Jacob I not a gamer. But when I was looking for a new TV the kid read some spec that said great for gaming. I bought a 8k 75” Samsung and picture on old movies is incredible see things I never seen before in movies I watched many times same with sound. I hooked up my old Yamaha with one non arc two Bose 901’ hanging left and right at front of room and two cube Bose over my recliners and behind 2 Bose 901’s. The Yamaha puts out 500 watts. And sub is 500 watts. When I got TV I thought I get a Denon only one model during Covid at Best Buy. It was like 600 bucks. Was on low end of the Denon food chain. Weighed half of what I Yamaha did and would shut down it get so hot trying to crank Music. Will these work with Bose I play loud, have half the block and no close neighbors. I hesitate because the Yamaha has so many room setting and while watching you tube movies or videos depending how they uploaded I can quickly get awesome non booming sound and crystal clear. This receiver was not available. I packed that Denon up and took back to Best Buy. Does it have different eg sound settings from remote? Never really got to experience the atmos sound since I did not have a HDMI Arc port. I know a lot of Bose haters but I hear sounds I never heard in old movies that tv upgrades to a higher resolution and can see things from favor old movies like the Omega Man 1972 I believe, movie I never seen before. Can’t believe how low the price has gotten. Yamaha offers nothing like this to support older components. I disabled on oxygen and on goods days watching music videos and movies is awesome with current setup. Is it even worth changing for Atmos? Thank you.

[@freedomofspeechtv9927]

Well done for this video

[@LittlePlant888]

I bought this on sale on bestbuy at $639. I got past the initial setup, but audio kept cutting out for a few seconds at random moments. Then the denon decides to update randomly. Okay, thats cool. Well, it failed the update. I've got top speed internet with a powerful wifi router so that shouldn't have happened. Now it'll play sound from the tv still, but it wont get past any other setup menus. It gets stuck when the progress load bar is at around 80% and then hangs there forever. I can make the volume go up or down while its hanging, so it isnt frozen, but it just never loads whatever it is its trying to load. I'm taking it back to best buy asap. First ever AVR experience and its a total letdown.

[@markkearns6702]

I see you're an eagles fan awesome btw does have an option to plug in a phono

[@tommycanadasmobazimmer]

Nice video. Bought one today for all the reasons mentioned. $400.USD on sale.

[@THERIGHTWAY8164]

i have it and its weak 970 weak in power good if you have cheap speakers

[@as2980]

Decent vid. Note: in other news, it's April 4-19-24. The s760h which is heralded here has a successor (the 2023 s770h) that's is out now and the video hasn't been revised to talk about it (not that doing so is mandatory in my view, just saying). Admittedly, I don't know if a s780 model is due this year (or a s770 successor with a different name). Yet if one comes about, it would be interesting to hear your decidely knowledgeable thoughts on it in general and/or via a review (brief overview, in-depth review, otherwise Mahalo.

[@cordoba4068]

S970 can be had for $400 (mine came from Adarama one day sale).

[@mrsuri33]

i have the 950h and the ony reason for me would be hdmi 2.1. my xbox is now connected directly to the tv and that works just fine. if this thing has the ame sound output i do not see ht epoint for now

[@pjaygutierrez1407]

Thanks boss! Now I’m really sold getting the S760H! And of course Fly Eagles Fly! 🦅🦅🦅

[@Владимир-ь7ъ9ь]

Спасибо! Очень подробно, достаточно профессионально и, самое главное, для меня - актуально. Уважаю!

[@aaaagggghhhh6370]

check out what the price walmart is selling it for !

[@thedarkdade]

Thanks!

[@CatManDoom84]

That is one sexy home theater setup ya got there dude! I just got the 570BT, upgraded from an old yamaha and wow im loving it! 4k 120hz for my new pc, and a huge upgrade in sound quality for my PS5 which is pretty much a dedicated 4k bluray player hah (unless im playing PS5 exclusive games). If you dont need a 7.1 receiver like the 760h def go with the 5.2 570BT for a $100 less. Great video either way!

[@nigelpottinger901]

As always very detailed video makes me wanto go buy my self a denon even though qas going for 1 anyway

[@CatLife0]

Just picked one of these up for $350. I didn't realise they were $900 😮

[@familyman8644]

They have killer sales now you should hage waited now avrs over 1000 you can find for 400 if you dont mind last years model like the DENON S 960H for 350$ maybe even x 2700 for 400 but its gone

[@TheZachTrack]

This Reciever is $379 at adorama right now. Heck of a deal at that price when mine is 10 years old. Lol

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

I looked it up but it shows $599

[@mikeharris8028]

Good video. I do prefer Yamaha receivers for their excellent audio quality. The green bird jersey should be changed to a Chiefs jersey!!

[@retropalooza]

S970h just managed one for 229.... that special opened box version

[@eb2350]

where did you find one?

[@retropalooza]

@@eb2350 best buy store closure boston

[@06silverfire]

The 760 doesn’t have component for retro game consoles.

[@watsonanthony8438]

Buy an adapter lol

[@CJHallx]

Denon response to rumors that AVR-S760H is being discontinued: · 3 hours ago Hello, The AVR-S760H is still a current model. We have them in stock.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Good to know, a rep at Crutchfield advised me they were discontinued (which their website showed at the time)

[@JoeChrist34]

Dude you failed to mention the drawback of the S760H needing a honky adapter to display 8K 60hz/4k 120hz if you get stuck with a serial number under 7000. I know most if not all TV's don't support 8k yet, but people wanting to "future proof" their equipment, the s760h is NOT the way to go, especially since most of these sites now are unloading old models pre-7000 the serial number. So yeah, if you want one 8k input and likely need an adapter almost the size of the receiver itself to view 8k content, the old model is the way to go.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

The S760H is not part of the chip problem, the only models affected were the Denon AVR-A110, Denon AVR-X6700H, Denon AVR-X4700H, Denon AVR-X3700H, Denon AVR-X2700H, Denon AVR-S960H

[@JoeChrist34]

@@JacobDarkOfficial you're right man my bad. All these numbers scrambled my brain for a second. When you said you were returning the s970h I thought you were saying the older model the s960h (which also goes for around $500/600 now) was a cheaper and suitable replacement. So yeah, my bad. I actually got stuck with the 960 bro, and it fucking pissed me off! Good looks though, and thanks for the video!

[@docwho10th88]

@@JacobDarkOfficial What was wrong with the chipset? So the 2700 does not do 8k? If so, no problem...by the time and IF that time comes around my 2700 will need replacing anyway. lol

[@debronculture7093]

I really love the way you teaches And it’s very easy to do when you teach Powerful studio machines too❤❤❤

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Thanks!

[@djcashwell]

Great video, Still considering the S-970 as I plan out my home theater system.. I connect my PS5 to my TV…. And FLY EAGLES FLY/GO BIRDS

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Go Birds!

[@NICKISFAST]

I have the s760h innmy apartment and it does its job

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Absolutely does, I think in order to truly upgrade you'd need an X series receiver

[@ddeep2518]

Great video, very well explained, pls make a video on 3800h. I'm planning to grab one soon.

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

Appreciate the feedback! Please consider using my link, it really helps!

[@NATESUCKSATGAMING]

If you want the S series... Get a better job and buy the X series or go with a pioneer brand receiver. Pioneer at $500 > Denon at $500.

[@CycloneJack]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYTCnpqZncqMZqM In case you want to get to the reason he's sending it back without listening to the rest of it, like I did. Answer: it's a good receiver; he just found a much cheaper one that meets his needs.

[@monacocross4241]

take yamaha

[@rockabilli3058]

Bringe erst mal alles in Deutsch .Es gibt auch Leute die kein Englisch sprechen und lesen kónnen .Was ihr euch immer Einbildet mit euren Englisch. Ihr redet alle von Respekt und macht es selber nicht .Es Nerft einen wenn man was nicht versteht

[@user-su1xk3mv2b]

Where is the 4K out I see all these 8K out but no 4K out ?

[@JacobDarkOfficial]

8K covers everything including 4K

[@wimvandervelde1774]

3x 4K (4K60 or lower) out and 3x 8K (8K60or 4K120 or lower)