Depictions of The Velvet Underground in TV & Film ('Vinyl', 'Factory Girl' & 'I Shot Andy Warhol')

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Cam Forrester

Cam Forrester

Күн бұрын

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@kianbarker6781
@kianbarker6781 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, Factory Girl's VU features two members of Weezer (Brian Bell and Patrick Wilson)
@latontolog
@latontolog Жыл бұрын
This was fun to watch. I'd forgot that "Vinyl" included a Velvets scene, which I agree is very good even though the show was largely forgettable. There's a Factory scene in Oliver Stone's absolute turkey "The Doors" which features a terrible depiction of Andy Warhol as well as basically reducing Nico to a groupie giving Jim Morrison head. I'm not 100% sure but I seem to remember there being a brief flash of Lou in there as well.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER Жыл бұрын
Indeed the scene in The Doors was ridiculous, and Nico's depiction exploitative. There was no Lou Reed or Velvet Underground depiction, they were just mentioned by the guy who introduced Jim to Nico, but the songs 'Venus In Furs' and 'Heroin' were used as background music. I'm surprised Lou Reed allowed that to be honest, especially given yet another sinister portrayal of Andy Warhol!
@maximilianogabriel9982
@maximilianogabriel9982 Жыл бұрын
Yeah..bro...i thinkin in is too
@rickg8015
@rickg8015 Жыл бұрын
Lou and rest of VU hated “I shot Andy Warhol” and its director (for valid reasons)… But I’m still a fan of Yo La Tengo and Michael Imperioli..
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER Жыл бұрын
It was a sensitive matter for sure, and understandably so...but indeed, Michael Imperioli was brilliant as Online, and Yo La Tengo playing the VU was fun to watch! Lili Taylor's performance was also outstanding I thought. Lou and John famously disagreed on the matter of whether the film glorified Solanas - although Lou refused to allow any VU music to be used, John composed the score, maintaining that the film was in no way sympathetic to her character.
@landlinesandpercolators8822
@landlinesandpercolators8822 5 ай бұрын
The bunch playing the VU in Vinyl should go on as a tribute band - sounded great!
@pinkzeppelin428
@pinkzeppelin428 Жыл бұрын
It just goes to show the Velvet Underground & their discography is very well-known in modern times thus their impact on pop culture is very large today as it was back in the day. I mean based on cultural/groundbreaking impact, innovation, influence & historic significance plus critical acclaim, I would put the VU up along with other immortals, legends & icons: The Beatles, Bob Dylan, Elvis, Rolling Stones, Chuck Berry, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Stevie Wonder, Prince, Pink Floyd, The Who, Ray Charles, Michael Jackson, Aretha Franklin, The Beach Boys, David Bowie, Johnny Cash, Miles Davis etc. Anyway thanks for posting this!
@bosco7837
@bosco7837 Жыл бұрын
Cor, the third clip it's an alternative universe where the Velvet Underground are a hippie band!! 😅 The first clip was actually very noice though!!
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's certainly somewhat over the top, but fun to watch!
@christy7698
@christy7698 Жыл бұрын
The main problem with biopics, in general, is that the people NEVER look like or act like the famous individuals they are supposed to portray! Just saying.🤣
@kjcs_1896
@kjcs_1896 Жыл бұрын
As much as I would want a biopic, with the other biopics like Elvis, I am scared to see it.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER Жыл бұрын
Nobody wants to see TVU depicted like, for example, The Doors were in Oliver Stone's film. I think a biopic would be out of the question now, since Lou Reed is no longer alive to provide his input. I'm sure the story could be faithfully told by John Cale, but given the nature of their creative relationship, I think both points of view would be needed to write a comprehensive script that authentically recreates the tension and rivalry between the two genius minds, which resulted in he intense music we all know and love in the first place.
@kjcs_1896
@kjcs_1896 Жыл бұрын
@@CAMFORRESTER Yeah, I can imagine the film heavily showing Lou and Steve (if they even show Sesnick) being really bad people. I guess the documentary is enough for me, though they rushed the last two albums, and Sterling, as usual, is little mentioned, though I can understand why...
@Man_Ray78
@Man_Ray78 Жыл бұрын
​@@CAMFORRESTER The Doors was a complete clusterfuck and harmed the way my generation looked at The Doors. I thought it was mostly true until I grew to know that Oliver Stone created a version that was mostly from how he think Morrison was. If VU were to being on the screen I would want it to be at least 5 part mini series because screenwriters, directors and producers always run in to the problem of what to keep and what to tell that fits it narrative .If they get more time, like if it was a 5 episodes, they could represent each member and have space to create kind of whole story. The new Sex Pistols TV Series flopped in that way but they could have done this better, i think as a fan.
@johnpolitis7929
@johnpolitis7929 Жыл бұрын
@@CAMFORRESTER There is a VU documentary that is much better and more accurate than the depiction of VU in Vinyl, Factory Girl, and The Doors. The actors and actresses who inaccurately played the roles of Nico and VU members ought to be ashamed of themselves. How do they sleep at night?
@thecrossmethod6192
@thecrossmethod6192 Жыл бұрын
Great news about the band!
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Please share the trailer if you are able - I need all the help I can get to spread the word! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaC3Yo2Mj56CaM0
@tranquilkatybell
@tranquilkatybell Жыл бұрын
Sounds amazing. Please please please come to Toronto. You could surely book a gig at The Velvet Underground club here. I'd be happy to put you up or help out in any way.
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I'd love nothing more than to tour and visit Toronto...that's a ways off at this stage though. For now, if you could please share the album trailer any way you are able to, I would really appreciate it - I need all the help I can get to spread the word! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaC3Yo2Mj56CaM0
@BeesWaxMinder
@BeesWaxMinder Жыл бұрын
A N O T H E R great UpLoad!
@Xcalator35
@Xcalator35 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Cam. Great work...as allways!
@maximilianogabriel9982
@maximilianogabriel9982 Жыл бұрын
Do you like jazz? .. Miles Davies , john Coltrane, Ornette Coleman..
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER Жыл бұрын
I do...
@alexwalton593
@alexwalton593 Жыл бұрын
factory girl is probably one of the worst films ive ever seen but weezer as the velvets , especially rivers as moe is a funny concept
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a shame the script was so exploitative. I thought Guy Pearce and Sienna Miller did great with what they had to work with otherwise!
@alexwalton593
@alexwalton593 Жыл бұрын
@@CAMFORRESTER it just seems to me like no ones ever gonna get it right. im not there isnt great but it has the best exploration of the dylan/sedgewick relationship
@CAMFORRESTER
@CAMFORRESTER Жыл бұрын
@@alexwalton593 I haven't seen that...I shall give it a look!
@cafeAmericano
@cafeAmericano 9 ай бұрын
I mean it's got the king of all wankers Jimmy Fallon in it. That says it all
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