Depp v. Heard Trial Day 22 Afternoon - Johnny Depp Cross - Morgan Tremaine & Elaine's 15 minutes

[@evtyler]

The TMZ mic drop moment on Elaine was absolutely PRICELESS!!!!! Also, the way Camille was able to tip toe and get to the point that the video came directly from AH based on how quickly it was able to be published was the best lawying I've ever seen in person or in movies!!! For me that was the final nail in the credibility coffin for AH...I believe NOTHING she says.

[@sw.1984]

That is outside the box thinking! Great approach to this!

[@CrossroadsWellness13]

I said out loud to the screen, “oh my God former TMZ employee just basically said it had to come from AH because it was published within 15 minutes. They could verify that she sent the email to them with the video!!!! 👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻 Bloody brilliant!!!!

[@haileyarellano8790]

7 90th 6y6h9h

[@varanchio]

They’re style is elegant and lil bit “snarky”, I noticed it before too, they’ll just lay out everything and not state the obvious, like it’s not needed bc it’s so clear and the jury is not stupid. As opposed to AH’s team which is pretty slimy and beat the dead horse over 100 times..

[@Oldbutnotout]

“I didn’t want anyone to know” but I’m going to show up to the courthouse, sit right in front of the DV courtroom, in a $5,000 black dress, do my hair away from my face, wear no-makeup makeup look, oh and forget my sunglasses, hat and any type of clothing to distract who I am. 😵‍💫

[@Skkyyyyyyyyyyy]

TMZ guy absolutely ETHERED Elaine out of this realm.

[@NicolaMaxwell]

Savage lol. Elaine's still floating in the shadow realm of humiliation. DUI guy and Ben's face!😂😂

[@uniquerebeljaney3639]

@@NicolaMaxwell Chewie loved that, the look on his face made my day.

[@NicolaMaxwell]

@@uniquerebeljaney3639 his reactions are absolutely hilarious, Chewie just looks like a big sweetheart lol.

[@kristinLB]

I’m so glad Johnny got to say that no matter the outcome he takes relief in that he “made it to this point and got to tell his truth”.

[@Ms10yearsafter]

@@MauiMauiMe agreed..

[@anacovich21]

That's how myself and 3 other women felt when we all made our statements about our abuser. He was my ex partner who rained years of domestic violence on me and all his other partners. Got 10 yrs in jail for the multiple charges so our out come was good. Hope for the best for johnny, I just can't with her, she blows my mind.

[@TannerisSmol97]

@@MauiMauiMe You're just as bad saying shit like that. AcUtAL victims react in a multitude of ways some feel guilty and at quite others are loud and wanna tell every soul. Gtfo

[@nostalgicdouchebag1912]

True but it sucks that all of that will be forgotten or overlooked because of the cross

[@FC-PeakVersatility]

@@TannerisSmol97 civility has far more impact than discourtesy

[@BlindBatG34]

Even a year later this is a fascinating day of testimony to watch.

[@RS-or8sh]

When AH was laughing ,smiling when JD was talking said it all. No way was she abused by him. I hope the jury noted it

[@heatherwillarose8009]

Absolutely correct! She has the body language of a perpetrator, He is broken, and behaves like an abuse victim.

[@CaulkMongler]

Yup, and she really thought it was cute when she put on a little show like she was scared even just walking past him last week.

[@jeye7273]

Agreed! Saw that! She was so happy that she got to him, typical of an abuser. That must’ve felt creepy to the jurors. It reminded me of ‘Mommy Dearest’, Joan Crawford’s daughter’s account of growing up with an abusive famous parent. Feel sorry for AH’s baby similarly.

[@Lena-cl6ye]

Well, she's not smirking now!

[@katty5003]

Very disturbing how she can keeping looking with chin up & displaying pleasure. Very chilling. The smug behaviour says everything. No victim would behave that way. Only perpetrators behave that way.

[@cattheminion]

It's really disturbing how AH always gets giddy smiley every time one of the witnesses is detailing incidents of her assaulting someone.

[@Memi-cp4yc]

Yes, I would be concerned

[@Dee-JayW]

Narcissistic Dupers Delight

[@TheVeganVixenBlog]

I agree Narcissistic at its finest.

[@SableRain]

Maybe she's trying to overcompensate for a guilty conscience? It's creepy as hell!

[@Andromeda14161]

Especially with her sister. When Johnny Depp was up there talking about how she treated Whitney, Amber was smirking the whole time.

[@beautybeagles6982]

The ex TMZ guys clap back at Elaine has just made it to my top trial moment. Absolute classic. Love that guy and totally digging him wearing nail polish too.

[@turtleflo_]

OMG! So glad the judge allowed the ex-TMZ guy to testify. That was a legendary clap back. 💜💜💜 You're so right about how impressive so many of the expert witnesses on JD's side are.

[@pyrovania]

Maybe TMZ guy should go to law school. He's quick on his feet.

[@user-cm3uo6lu6o]

He was tremendous. I was DYING. 1:12:56 if anyone can’t find!

[@charliegirl2u235]

Vasquez was brilliant getting his answer without objection. It takes 15 minutes to publish from a verified tip to TMZ ( ie Amber HeArd’s phone). Otherwise if not verified it takes much longer. So the TMZ ex employee did not have to divulge .

[@nGUNNARp]

It's easy to get respectable and credible experts when the facts are on your side...you gotta get slimy people when they aren't.

[@kidr363]

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[@geminifaeries]

Im so bothered that Elaine tried to downplay what Beverly witnessed at the airport by saying “this happened in 2009! 13 years ago!” but yet the “Kate Moss” incident happened in what… 1996 or something like that??? It also really frustrates me that Elaine keeps coming at the angle that people want attention for testifying. Testifying on a case this huge would be terrifying. You’d have to be really brave to do that. Not to mention Neumeister’s testimony… whew. That got heated.

[@dijonvolner6024]

Wasn't the Ellen Barkin Testimony even older than Kate Moss?

[@sallycinnamon5370]

@@dijonvolner6024 yeah…like 30 years ago. And in that example he wasn’t even angry at the woman…and didn’t assault anyone.

[@TheFaro2011]

She's doing her job. Because if her client she will have to bring lizard people up next. Not a lot left in the bag

[@merlith4650]

the "15 minutes of fame" angle is basically what she uses when they literally got nothing else. it's a televised court, so this speculative angle could apply to every single person in the courtroom. be it witnesses or experts, they could all hypothetically be there for fame or exposure in one way or another.. especially for those witnesses and people who jumped into court after it's publicity. so it becomes this obvious low hanging fruit to grab when there is nothing else to use. so if anything, it's a good sign when Elaine tries that angle because it just shows how solid the witness is for the most part

[@sallycinnamon5370]

@@merlith4650 i would have loved if she would have tried to use that on Kate Moss

[@gadyavladik]

Nobody, who suffered DV will be that smug when their abuser is testifying

[@anacovich21]

@gadyavladik, Omg no! I cldnt Evn look at my own DV abuser, made me sick!

[@franceskeeley6924]

Agree with you!

[@Gemgemz26]

I left my abuser 17 years ago, and he ended up moving to the town I live in... even to this day I hate running into him, it's rare thats I do, but I still feel the same dread and fear I did all those years ago. I can tell you I most definitely don't act smug around him, it's head down and get out of there ASAP.

[@Emmastayofftheinternet]

The fact that they refuse to let the expert talk about the Meta data just shows she has something to hide

[@polivepea]

Exactly

[@theblueskyandrainbow]

yep

[@KrissyMeow]

Bingo! They were shitting themselves once they realize what he was there for.

[@georgiamitchell7670]

Ofc plus the smirk is so triggering. I’m not scared of Amber Heard, it’s triggering because rapists/abusers feel confident in smirking at inappropriate times especially when there is cruelty.

[@crystalfarmer4074]

@@georgiamitchell7670 exactly. Both have had things come out that make them look bad. AH has had more bad stuff come out. I noticed how much joy she took in the pic & texts(which were misrepresented) that made him look bad. She looked so smug, smirking, looking like the cat who ate the canary. I have yet to see him obviously take joy in bad stuff coming out about her. Aside from their testimony that has been the biggest difference between the two of them. He seems sad & broken. She seems cold & it feels like she only cares about hurting him

[@jackeeB]

Morgan was not only quick witted but polite. "Oh, hardly, I find that to be purely logical. Thank you" 😍😂🤣 And here I thought Mr. Nights comment, "sounds like schizophrenia." was gold🤭

[@nb6792]

He said it was logical thinking, not thank you

[@balqis431]

@@nb6792 think he did at the end after saying that

[@JLynnEchelon]

Mr. Night wins for me. It just gets funnier every time I think about it.

[@alaia-awakened]

The “Oh hardly!” was SO smooth, so solid, so meant. I’m still basking in the afterglow of it

[@professor.donut24]

@@alaia-awakened his beautiful voice adds charm to it. And he's confident too so that help hihi

[@HRC19]

We’ve seen so many last-minute witnesses come forward to rebut Amber’s testimony of events. None have come forward to rebut Johnny’s testimony. The silence is deafening and the contrast is striking.

[@kristinLB]

They will have witnesses tomorrow. But only have an hour and 15 minutes to do it.

[@nb6792]

well, for one, AH team already rested so they cannot call more witnesses. Second, only the plaintiff side get to present rebuttal witnesses.

[@soccermomlu4l]

Does anyone know who Depp's last witness will be tomorrow morning?

[@ada_pink]

@@nb6792 The judge said at the end AH get rebuttal but only for the counterclaim. But I don't know what witnesses they could pull out of the hat for that

[@ada_pink]

@@soccermomlu4l There's rumors about a flight attendant, probably the one he according to AH grabbed by the wrist and threatened to break it? Or they were there during the Boston flight where he supposedly kicked her in the back?

[@alexialiburd2011]

I love Camille's way of questioning. She leads you but doesn't make it explicit - and leaves the jury and everyone else to allow the question to simmer in their mind. She's just fucking amazing

[@Josuke126]

When Rottenborn said "Thanks, appreciate it" to Depp I felt a rage inside me like I haven't felt in a long time.

[@debhorne150]

I felt the same rage!

[@Random84530]

Love Morgan Cliff Tremaine. So savvy on the stand. Yes. hit back. Don't let AH's counsel get away with rudeness.

[@annabees]

loved him too. You see the guy who thought he'd give a hand to a celeb to widen his connections, but was set to testifies in full instead😅

[@NicolaMaxwell]

He was awesome! She thought she could put him down n nope! Savage lol. DUI guy and Ben's face!😂😂😂😂😂

[@loristoneking4536]

Morgan Tremaine was an epic hero. Love his integrity.

[@leticiavasquez8566]

Yeah i detest TMZ but i liked that guy. I wonder if he feels like hes cleansing his soul and doing some contrition by stepping forward lol. Really loved he stood his ground with Elaine. I know even JDs team sounds tougher and meaner on cross ex but im not sure why AHs team just sounds so much more.... i think because its not just slightly snarky or very direct but rather rude AF. I feel like the lawyers are absorbing the clients their represent maybe.

[@karenpeatey6226]

He’s the best !!

[@jaclyncollins-schmitt4549]

Ask me how many times I rewatched Elaine’s “a little argumentative…” just to see the DUI guys face!!! Priceless!!!

[@dazee1084]

I can’t figure out which one is the DUI Guy lol. Point him out to me please?

[@haileyarellano8790]

@@dazee1084 he has the grey ish hair its on twitter

[@haileyarellano8790]

I loved it. It looked like EVERYONE had the same reaction. I was slack Jared for sure. Sad to hear he's getting shit for it.

[@cloroxbleach197]

@@dazee1084 Front row, to the far left side he is wearing the grey jacket with the white undershirt.

[@varanchio]

I counted at least 4 fully opened mouths, not including mine 😂

[@adriennemiranda7956]

When the TMZ witness responded with"15 minutes" I literally started screaming in my car with excitement! That was awesome. They totally are letting the jury put the pieces together. I don't think I've been this excited since my child was born LOL

[@kaitlinm5710]

Right? Movie worthy

[@patriciamoncada3975]

I was in the kroger parking lot with my window down and I screamed DAMN!!! LOL. Couple people turned to stare at me.. lol!

[@jennifersandahl4603]

Omg same. That piece was gold.

[@JuanitaFernandez.]

Same!!!!!! I thought the same!!!!!!

[@hebaelhossary7392]

Me toooo!!!🤣🤣

[@acesang7017]

The weird thing is- JD has been very forthcoming with any and all of his positive and negative characteristics, words, issues, whatever… so I tend to believe him when he states he did or didn’t say or do something.

[@fredrickwheeler6852]

It's particularly telling that the one thing where he vehemently said "this doesn't sound like me, I don't know who molly would refer to, I'm sure I didn't write this" and was clearly bewildered by it turned out to be an incoming message rather than an outgoing one, even if neither council caught that. even while he admitted to the other message where he was (reasonably) incredibly angry

[@nyproud590]

@@fredrickwheeler6852 that’s not true.

[@liseklerekoper2441]

@@nyproud590 - What’s not true? Emily confirmed that the messages that Depp says didn’t sound like him were incoming as someone saw the actual exhibit & it was clear the messages were incoming, which means they came from Steven Deuters. So surprised no one on Depp’s team caught that & hope they bring it up in closing arguments as that part didn’t look great for Depp. It was a small thing compared to the big wins by his team so far, but still would be good to clarify. Maybe the jury will catch that those texts were incoming & not from Depp, but with so many pieces of evidence I worry that they won’t. I wonder if Rottenborn knew that & tried to throw it out to see if he could get away w/ it. I will say that Rottenborn is definitely the best lawyer Heard has, but his approach is loud, rushed/more frenetic, & seems angry & arrogant. Maybe the jury will tune some of his stuff out because of that.

[@nyproud590]

@@liseklerekoper2441 really ? You believe that the best lawyers in the world kissed something so crucial, but a KZbin lawyer caught it? Are you serious?

[@liseklerekoper2441]

@@nyproud590 - Yep, really. Since that happened, numerous attorneys have also spoken about it & if you actually look at the text exhibit, it says incoming, which means it was to Depp, not from him.

[@QueenMadradena]

Reading the transcripts a year later, now we know that Ms. Leonard WAS the arresting officer, however the judge did not allow the fact in that Amber was actually arrested because the charges were later dropped. Also she allowed the testimony only because the witness retired and was not in active duty anymore.

[@intothemindshaft]

I suppose it was more prejudicial to know about a dismissed arrest - love these rebuttals tho jus hammering it alllllll home

[@Random84530]

Johnny's black eye looks more bruised than all of Amber's photos.

[@BabyKangaroo279]

Dude. I'm a post-op nurse. All those images where she has any bruising looks like botox and a very minor nose job.

[@HaHaHannah1369]

@@BabyKangaroo279 I agree. And they’re all on the exact spots you would get Botox, a “mini” facelift, or non surgical facelift, a nose job, juviderm, filler, etc. these aren’t “I was beaten senselessly by a 50 year old man who wears an entire pound of metal on his fingers”

[@FC-PeakVersatility]

@@BabyKangaroo279 apart from the arm and that looks far more indicative of restraint than attack

[@FC-PeakVersatility]

And if you look closely at the raffles photo you can see that there is no bruising

[@claireeyles7560]

Honestly the testimony today has completely flipped me on the idea that this was a mutually abusive relationship where both parties participated in a toxic relationship. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Johnny Depp is a saint, and I do think he has a lot of things he needs to work through regarding substance abuse and possible mental health issues, but after listening to the witnesses today, and seeing Amber Heard's smug response to some of the testimony, I can't see her as anything but an abuser.

[@KrissyMeow]

It took you this long? Lol

[@TheJennaMay]

I’m convinced she’s the devil in disguise. Just an observation IMHO 🤓🤪🧐

[@claireeyles7560]

@@KrissyMeow Oh I knew she was an abuser before this, I was just trying to keep an open mind and not project my own experiences of IPV onto either of them so I was looking at both sides of the coin. And today the coin tossed itself clearly to one side.

[@HJPeet]

I started to become really toxic during my abusive relationship as I started sinking down to his level. I see this the same way. There seems to be a lot of testimony to Johnny “changing” around the time he started getting involved with her.

[@georgiamitchell7670]

Me either. It bothers me so much because as a feminist…I’m just appalled. I have supported women and survivors and it’s in my gut with alarm bells….she is a con artist. Full stop.

[@sonjag9979]

I didn’t think rottenborn came across that great. Maybe I’m wrong. To me, it seemed like AH’s entire team was angry, stressed and on edge today. And the fact that they were all questioning in fast forward just emphasized the fact that they mismanaged their time. They sounded desperate to me. Just my take.

[@PiscesMoon2You]

Except for Amber who was smiling, smirking even laughed at one point. Was she having a Manic day?

[@lotusbloom7750]

Linda Scott that’s exactly how narcissistic people act

[@Jemma29]

He came across very juvenile, cutting him off and rushing things along out of desperation

[@courtneystiles8097]

@@PiscesMoon2You or a panic day 🤔

[@otterlylost2029]

I agree. They sounded desperate and, honestly, dickish. If I was on the jury, I would be so tuned out of anything they had to say.

[@Sleepytj007]

2:49:14 Johnny smiling, and the court employee smiling back… he has a warm personality 😊

[@ElleBoogie_]

Wait, no one caught the B-List celebrities part? Malfoy is definitely Slytherin too and Amber didn't see him coming. 😭

[@likesunflowers]

YESSS!!! I was curious if anyone else noticed that!! 😂

[@dazee1084]

I caught it. DIED laughing 😂☠️

[@robinellsworth]

Yes yes yes thank you for pointing this out 😂 so much shade I LOVED IT

[@cindorella1495]

Oh gosh. I'm going to have to replay the entire day all over again. There's so much I missed 😂

[@Locksbyann]

I caught it too!

[@user-qr8ki8ue4i]

Neumeister won the day, imho. Unflappable. A quintessential 'old bull teaches the young bull' moment.

[@RS-or8sh]

Nailed it

[@KK-hc5oo]

agreed !

[@ThePflasterle]

Hm Neumeister literally refused to answer simple yes and no questions, I don't find this appropriate. I totally don't believe AH's side of the story, but Neumeister made it sound like automatic image compression equals editing, making it sound like the photos were actively edited, and refused to reply to a quite straightforward question whether there is actual evidence towards active editing or visually changing the images. Many such instances throughout these "expert witnesses", just overall disappoiting for truth-finding.

[@cowboybob5301]

@@ThePflasterle his point was that the question can't be answered because these photos are not originals. nothing can be said about a copy of a copy in regards to the validity of the original.

[@PiscesMoon2You]

Johnny was in an emotional, vulnerable space talking about how he felt, his mom's passing etc. that had his emotions right on the surface and Rottenborn took advantage of that by poking at that emotion. Just like an abuser beating down their victim. That was definitely in effect with Rottenborn.

[@RS-or8sh]

It was all to fast for him as well, just made him look more vulnerable. I don't think it did Rottonborn any favours

[@erikavaleries]

His name says it all

[@debbielockhart7762]

He will always be as Johnny calls him: Rotten ... born

[@beteljuice6629]

I'm re-watching this with less emotional worry and rottenborn seems to be lying. Like he's evidence and the way he's trying to present it comes off that he's trying to show this before anyone questions him about the pictures. And Johnny is understandably angry that they are lying on him about him being hit by his awful human ex

[@mildredflemyng-middleton4795]

I thought Mr. Neumeister's testimony was the most technically (technologically) fascinating, but that clap-back at Ms. Elaine by not-Draco is the part I replayed several times to take in all the reactions. DUI Guy did full on flail and open mouth, Depp's team all shifted and pursed lips/covered mouth....one of best moments? possibly edit: seriously, Elaine, is that 15 minutes of fame the only thing you can go with? At this point you just just give up instead of insulting the witness. crikey woman.

[@karolvivianacaro8439]

I only read Draco!

[@Go-Dawgs]

Mr. Neumiester & all of Depp's experts show that Brown-Rudnick was able to get the best. Amber laughing while he spoke about her injury photos was like her divorce depo, Overconfident that she could pull this crap off. Elaine's relying on experts she used prior backfired with a very organized & prepared Depp team's cross. They sought out the Best experts they could find not just what money could buy. They probably cost more now that we know the Travelers Ins Co lawyer gal sitting in their front gallery row everyday most likely had to approve Heard's experts. But if Heard had not edited her injury pics this guy would not have been called.

[@tjkerr-moore4810]

When it comes to the Molly texts. Taking away the fact that they don't seem to be literal. Johnny has owned up to a lot of the texts that he sent and hasn't tried to say someone else sent them before and some were just as bad if not worse. The fact that Depp is refuting these texts when he hasn't refuted any previous says to me that he didn't send them.

[@llamaczech]

They're also labelled as incoming texts, so there's also that.

[@viper2785]

Yeah, it says they are incoming. If they're pulled from his phone/records I don't know how that means anything other than they were sent TO him. I can't believe I haven't heard anyone else mention it before and that it didn't come up again in court. They are on par with his actual messages in severity, but a completely different tone and vulgarity that he hasn't shown and is clearly at odds with when accused with them. If they were his they would add dimension to his vices and negative aspects of his character, if that makes sense. It's like saying... In addition to doing drugs and using savage and hateful language when he is upset and venting, did you know he's also a full on mysoginist red pill Andy talking about grabbing women by the pussy, etc. The latter is actually worse imo, but see how it goes in the direction of overall making him look more categorically "bad". Maybe AH lawyers didn't notice they were incoming texts, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if they were aware of that, they seemed shady AF, and exhibited a lot of disgusting behavior during and after the trial.

[@changethename1924]

His reasoning is also quite simple. He says he doesn’t have the “hubris and/or expectations” to write something like that… it is not about the language of the text… but the content… he simple said he could never write something like that because it is not something he actually believes to be true for him that “he can get any women he wants”. Which seems fair… and understandable why he was so persistent and sure that he did not write THOSE TWO TEXTS…

[@amberpowell2609]

She's the direct source. He's saying it without saying it.

[@LuckDragonLair]

He said it without saying it... Then Camille just said it. In case any jurors were napping yesterday... I'm looking at you #7 ;-p

[@TheFaro2011]

There's always that one person that gives everyone the benefit of the doubt, the jury may have them

[@LuckDragonLair]

@@TheFaro2011 as someone who is literally pathologically one of those people... Even I just... Couldn't...

[@barbdixon7785]

Where Elaine was objecting in TMZ Tremaine’s testimony was very telling. At each moment she was afraid he would reveal the source.

[@CrossroadsWellness13]

He had already revealed the source very clearly!!! With Camille‘s brilliant questioning it was so easy to deduce that the video came through an email directly from AH or else it would not have been published so quickly!!!

[@margaritaroxette8202]

She even brought up Morgan Night out of nowhere! The desperation is seeping and I believe it's palpable.

[@shopiefraccount9782]

I know, so pathetic. Please state your name OBJECTION here say Where do you work OBJECTION heresay Explain ... OBJECT.... oh oops Next question OBJ ... Oops sorry your honor

[@robynbanks1394]

Elaine found her button today 😂😂😂😂 they were so frazzled he was going to say something the jury couldn’t “unhear”….was awesome to watch them scramble to cover up their lies with loopholes….not today!! And with Camille, so fire girl!! What’s understood doesn’t need to be explained. OG gone girl sent that video AND TRYED to ruin this man with fake pictures and stories!! None of us are perfect, JD isn’t, nor am I….but this girl is def. sick in the head and needs exposed…before she gets to her next victim…the truth shall set you free!! I hope he can have some healing and peace and a shot at real happiness after this…everything’s out let the old life go and become the beautiful butterfly he is!

[@teresawest1787]

@@shopiefraccount9782 this tickled me. So so funny

[@adk2277]

As someone who spent weeks on a jury.....let me tell you, we were OVER one of the attorneys....we were OVER the objections. By week 2 we were drained. By the time we got to discuss the case, that attorney was definitely a topic of conversation, BUT it didn't sway our decision. I really feel for this jury.

[@loricawley54]

I’ve been a juror 3x and u r so correct about the jury feeling some type of way about certain behaviors or court room antics by lawyers! It’s certainly a topic of conversation when u get to deliberation!

[@Shellee722]

Since you sat on a jury may I ask if the way AH attorneys are acting so hostile make you wonder if their really trying to cover up bogus info and lies? They just don’t seem professional at all in this trial and it makes me wonder. I feel their trying so hard to cover and twist things when JD council seems so genuine and real.

[@shannons9963]

@@Shellee722 of course AH side is playing the unethical game, while Johnnys side is cool, calm, collected and methodical. When the truth is what you’re fighting for, it’s easy to do that. It’s the lies that get you acting like fools, twisting and skewing the truth. AH and her team KNOW that she’s the abuser, but…money and as Elaine LOVED to point out to everyone “15 mins of fame!”. What she doesn’t realize is her 15 mins of fame, along with the rest of the team, has damaged their reputation and will have a negative effect on their careers going forward. Even if they win, people who have morals will want nothing to do with the antics that they’ve pulled through the entirety of this case.

[@loricawley54]

@RealmEnchanted Nope, not until deliberation.

[@LWYMMD]

I can’t imagine how hard it will be for this jury to try and mentally separate their understanding and memory of the facts as presented from the viewpoint of Amber’s lawyers. They were so scrappy and unlikable and often rude. And that doesn’t say anything as to what their skillset is. They’re demeanor completely overshadowed it, at least to the lay person watching.

[@kileensmith5134]

It seems Rottenborn knows he's lost this case at this point. He's frantic and, frankly, unprofessional.

[@kayakazi7765]

He is very rude

[@blueyellowandgreen]

When Emily said I’m here for the tea” and the next sentence was about TMZ, I immediately thought of Tea MZ

[@Shasgirl]

I truly appreciate that they didn't compromise him in such a blatant way. As soon as Camille starts questioning, I had a feeling they wouldn't outright name her as the producer of the video. But the jury will make it out. I wish him the best in his defense against TMZ later on.

[@lilo8249]

What defense against TMZ?

[@sallycinnamon5370]

@@lilo8249 If they try to sure him for breaching an NDA. I think they would have a bit of a fight though…he didn’t name the source…he really just talked about the process. They might still view that as industry secrets though that he shouldn’t have disclosed.

[@lilo8249]

@@sallycinnamon5370 Thanks for the reply 🙏 Does JD have an NDA with TMZ?

[@nb6792]

@@lilo8249 tremaine,not johnny

[@sallycinnamon5370]

@@lilo8249 The former employee of TMZ had an NDA. That is why TMZ thought they might be able to stop him from testifying.

[@whatiwasgoingtosay]

The experts Depp’s team have called are some of the most fascinating people I’ve ever encountered.

[@reddtraining]

Agreed. He knows how to pick them, in a good sense. I'd use a few of them if I had a reason to.

[@plutonium2]

And almost without exception gorgeous

[@yaraminellydelgado7921]

AH experts witness are great value

[@varanchio]

listening to them I feel like I don’t have a brain at all

[@elbruces]

I would definitely characterize that psychiatrist guy AH's team brought as "fascinating."

[@Ekolop]

I saw johnny as a victim who is tired of being played, not as a lier

[@spitfirenana1234]

Me too!!!

[@Andromeda14161]

Morgan Tremaine is an absolute legend 🤟

[@Michelle-kh5du]

The way Depp has owned up to the things that may not be flattering for him makes it so that when he says “I didn’t write that” or “I don’t speak like that” it comes across as genuine to me - it doesn’t come across as an excuse, he seems confused and the fact that the text says incoming, and Depp didn’t notice, it makes me wonder if he got rattled on the stand because Rottenborne was making him feel the way Heard did with the gaslighting. It actually made me kind of sad.

[@kated3165]

That questioning of the former TMZ guy was MASTERFUL Camille!! Holy crap, I would not want that woman as my enemy!

[@kidr363]

Hi Kate I hope my comment didn't sound as a form of privacy invasion your comment tells of a wonderful woman with a beautiful heart which led me to comment I don't normally write in the comment section but I think you deserve this complement. If you don’t mind can we be friends? Thanks God bless you….

[@kimfox8622]

Johnny looks disturbed and a little worried after cross. It looks like he's got a whole lot of feelings about those Molly texts and he's still trying to process the fact that they put false evidence in that made him look bad. I hope that it gets revealed that they were incoming texts not ones from him.

[@annedonnellan6876]

Please contact his lawyer brown rudrick if you can prove

[@icecell]

Oh how I do hope so. The jury should know how much of a slimy move that was. Very Amber Heard. ಠAಠ Johnny has been quite forthright in authenticating his "bad" messages so far, so it's pretty uncharacteristic of him now to deny these ones if they truly are his.

[@christinaobregon4]

@@icecell Ambers lawyers have claimed they didn’t know they weeding incoming and didn’t see that one the document but that could be a lie either way I cant believe that could ness up that bad

[@theresagarcia6737]

I know I am so stupid, but what does an incoming text mean?

[@alex_n215]

@@theresagarcia6737 It’s a text you receive.

[@cozyelizabae]

the way amber was smirking and seemingly so smug during court today was so odd to me. extremely unsettling and bizarre. would love to hear your opinion on that emily! thank you soooo much for being so incredible and creating such a safe space 💗

[@michaelaplescia]

Duping delight. The Behavioural Art talks about it

[@gerryjordan2791]

I noticed her behaviour in court, yes ! When the pic of Johnny with the shiner was shown, she had that Dupers delight on her face, it was sickening. Also, when they were discussing AD pushing and shoving Whitney around , she had a positive Dupers delight, ugh!!! In between she was smiling sickly sweet at the juror, I think she has one juror who catches her eye all the time. Why is this allowed,? She has probably read it or been told about how her arrogant and haughty expression comes across and now she is trying to make us believe she is this lovely smiling angel. All it is doing is showing her ugly narcissistic side. She has sat for days not even bearing to look at her lawyers and now all sugary sweet? Nooo, psycho!!

[@grnddesign]

Agree. If what she alleges actually happened, don’t you think she’d be in tears recalling the event & being horrified that no one believes her. If it happened to me, I’d be gutted, not smug or defiant looking

[@elliekaytea6710]

@Elizabeth, it’s very odd indeed, with all we know now about abuse victims. And I’ve personally felt that EBD is so personable and relatable it feels like chatting with a close friend!! Emily is a rockstar!

[@kendallneason3645]

The Morgans were both great surprise witnesses that helped JD get his truth out. Good for them! Also his buddy Isaac Baruch was a perfect friend and witness.

[@missgalaxia14]

“One little lie” Three words but the way JD said it is so gut-wrenching and made me cry. So many lives have been changed (and some ended) because of one lie that everyone took as fact without hearing the other side.

[@suebrown7358]

Why is Amber smirking all the time like this is just another day, another fight? She lives for this! She is NOT a victim!

[@pyrovania]

Auditioning for a role as a villainess?

[@Yannispawn]

All day, smirking then quick glances to the camera and straightening up.

[@tracey278]

Exactly I’ve said it so many times before she is loving every minute of it this is her playground we are in her hood

[@bigknight202]

35:53 LOOL this judge surprises me sometimes: "Mr Rottenburn, you can't do this to me." Other notable mentions: 2:20:08 “Judy’s voice has changed” 2:47:55 The judge threatens to lock them inside and offers handwriting classes to Sammy

[@msjulsfl]

She's very real! Relatable as it were!🤗

[@bunny_0288]

I love the judge! She is so funny!

[@varanchio]

at the beginning I was a little sceptical of her, i thought she was less strict with AH’s team.. now i think she’s a saint

[@kimberlyr872]

I understand what you meant about Rottenborn doing a good job at cross with depp and not enough time for Ambers side, but honestly if I was a juror, Rottenborn would’ve lost my interest because I was wanting to hear answers and Rottenborn was constantly rushing and interrupting Johnny that it was annoying. I don’t like to be rushed and interrupted when I’m trying to answer questions and explain things. So even though Ambers side doesn’t have enough time and a good cross is suppose to be like that, it would still lose my interest because that is a pet peeve of mine.

[@RS-or8sh]

I believe him about the texts. His demeanor was very different than any of his previous testimony in trial, he has freely admitted to everything else. He seemed genuinely surprised by them

[@hansmeektan6239]

Hopefully the jury sees it that way too

[@katty5003]

Right.. his admitted to worse then those, but the wording is sus, it doesn’t sound like his way of writing.

[@Cece-dad17]

Because he didn’t do them, they were incoming texts

[@jessicacarlson2763]

thanks for still having these videos up and available. i missed watching this trial and enjoying hanging out with you virtually this weekend!

[@abigaildavis5295]

Jonny looks so sorry that his choices are putting all of these people through this…so much remorse on his face. We are all here fighting for you Jonny! ❤️

[@amethystfeathers7324]

I wonder how Whitney feels, betraying and committing perjury, sitting there in front of a man who was so kind to her.

[@abigaildavis5295]

@@amethystfeathers7324 I wonder too, it’s so sad all around. When Jonny was talking about his relationship with Whitney, you could tell he still cared for her.

[@db198081]

From what DUI guy said the cross of Depp just annoyed the jury. They didn’t appreciate it at all and seemed very sympathetic to Depp.

[@Starfish0.]

Great to know! That means they had the same feeling than us. That means they may see the truth like us.

[@tinytin5317]

Do you know where he said that?

[@RS-or8sh]

His twitter

[@sydneysomer9958]

Oh good!!!!

[@tinafight6426]

@@tinytin5317 you know you can go to his KZbin channel and watch his whole take on the jurors I skipped an hour into it to watch it

[@anniejohnson347]

Johnny laughs and smiles appropriately in reaction. I feel Amber smiles and smirks when nothing is funny, except to her. It feels so creepy.

[@deborahnewton1694]

She is a creep!!!!!

[@polin4uu]

it makes a lot of people uncomfortable! i was watching the live video that has a split screen and i could not stand her face there.

[@woodwanderer]

Her smiling when Depp talked about watching her sister be abused essentially was something. It wasn't a this is so insane it's hilarious. It was both a smile like "oh your team is good and sneaky cause we can't call my sister back on the stand" and "wow what an impact I had".

[@Skye_Writer]

It breaks my heart to hear that it started ON THE HONEYMOON. It happened the same way on my parent's honeymoon, and my mom always said she should have known right then and there that it was only going to get worse. She suffered for 8 years.

[@hollyf8889]

It started well before the honeymoon. If you watch the previous trial videos you’ll see there was drama from pretty early on (within the first year).

[@CHOOKIE67]

I had a cousin who was married and they went on a honeymoon cruise for 1 week. When they docked, my cousins' bride walked of the boat and immediately divorced him. I still don't know what happened. It definitely happens.

[@rebeccagroth8687]

The way Emily says “Elaine” is so funny to me. I can’t help but laugh every time she does it 😭😭

[@reybae]

I have to disagree with Runkle, I don't think Johnny was very combative... Rottenborne was coming at him with speed and not letting him answer in the way he wanted so you can see some frustration... But I think he still held it in well he could've been much worse...

[@lindseysanders3656]

I don’t honestly feel he was combative either. And I’ve been abused in various forms as a child, and certain things bother me. This didn’t. He talked over him (elaborating) in certain parts, but nothing triggered me here. Unless there are people that think he isn’t being truthful about the texts.

[@turdinabed5106]

To anyone female or male who has suffered domestic abuse by their partner this woman is a disgrace. It is terrifying to know that women like Amber Heard this really exist. I hope the jury sees right through her!

[@bennypit4411]

After they put Depp back on the stand today there's no way he wins now, NONE. I can not understand why his team did this, by far the worst move they have made the whole trial. Depp was leading by a long shot then they screwed up everything putting him back on the stand, none of that evidence would've come in if they kept Depp off the stand.

[@lotusbloom7750]

Me too she’s vile

[@Truthseeker8791]

she is the OG gone girl

[@TheWolffamily2022]

I am currently fighting for my justice from my abuser and I'm nervous to testify again. She is doing damage to those who really got abused. She's really the monster and we can all see it!

[@mysteryyyy]

Welcome to reality, for a lot of male folks this is a daily experience but they are not heard (not pun intended lol) because of the toxic society we live in where males aren't supposed to be fragile or even emotional. That's why they stay in silence, most people don't believe them and they're discredited and invalidated. It's sad because, in my opinion, that only perpetuates more "broken" males. We have to do better as a society 😔

[@pennPi]

As much as I enjoy Runkle and Lumber’s commentary, I disagree on their views of Johnny’s testimony. I think it worked to his advantage. I was personally moved by his account on how the Op Ed affected him and his need to get the truth out. Cross came across as aggressive and manipulative. Also, it was a revelation as to what prompted Amber to quickly get a TRO, alert TMZ and file for divorce. He said as his mother was dying or had passed away, he told her he wanted a divorce. (Of course she had to beat him to it and amp up her “victim” role.)

[@Donkeykong80]

Wow! Yes! I heard him start to say that then was objected and made to stop. You are so right

[@weeziep6651]

@PennyPie I wholeheartedly agree with you. Imo JD being able to tell out loud to the jury the way this all affected him was sucha powerful testimony.

[@TheFaro2011]

The room feels different. The internet feels different

[@AnnaAnna428]

Who’s Runkle?

[@barbaracheatham692]

@@AnnaAnna428 Runkle of the Bailey….he is a Canadian based lawyer who attended the live trial for several days.

[@nannybannany]

My husband is IT for our state's Public Defender. He is only sometimes brought into court to do tech for them but when he works from home I sometimes overhear snippets of the tech calls he gets. It is hilarious some of the simple problems that they just don't understand. I once overheard him explaining that even if the comptuer is plugged into the printer, the printer has to be plugged into the wall to have power. lolol xD All the love and respect to attorneys (especially the public defenders).

[@tangerine6949]

As a non-lawyer, my impression is that lawyers tend to see the profession of 'lawyer' through rose-tinted glasses (lawyers as some kind of heros, as vanguards of justice), and so they don't understand that lawyers in general are more distrusted than not by the general public. As a non-lawyer, I don't see how Rottenborn did well. Rottenborn just came off sounding arrogant and malicious, and it turns out that he was claiming that an 'incoming' text was written by Johnny Depp. So this time around, Rottenborn really conclusively proved that he is as rotten a lawyer as they come---he's the kind of lawyer that presents false evidence. I felt that Johnny seemed even more natural and sincere than before, and he was unafraid to say the truth without any reserve. I felt that whereas he was more nervous in his first testimony, this time, he had gotten used to being in court and was just saying things as he saw it without varnish, and he was not hiding how angry he was toward Rottenborn, as he would to be. Rottenborn is acting as a shield for Amber Heard's lies, and he himself falsifies evidence in the process. I would say that the general public is more likely to feel this way, as they don't see the profession of 'lawyering' through rose-tinted glasses as lawyers themselves tend to do.

[@Gioachina0279]

Well written and i feel the same

[@YamiFlyZX]

Im not a lawyer either and I also think Rottenborn did well. I dont think it has anything to do with the lawyer himself. Youre considering JDs testimony from his side, someone on the fence is willing to see it from AHs perspective. If you consider that view, getting JD rattled and snapping back is good. He wasnt as charming and put together as last time and it gives more foundation to the accusations from AH. You should read articles written to defend her, they frame the trial completely differently, and it is those articles and other clips that the AH crowd is watching. If anything lawyers are more willing to let their personal morality aside and look at a situation from many angles. I think theyd be the last to put every lawyer in a rose tinted heroic position.

[@tangerine6949]

@@YamiFlyZX Rottenborn gave false evidence to besmirch Johnny's character, so I guess you think that's okay.

[@YamiFlyZX]

@@tangerine6949 Youre jumping to conclusions. I dont like Rottenborn at all, I just agree with Emily that he did a good cross, even beyond the Molly texts. Just for this cross. Dont be so black and white.

[@tangerine6949]

@@YamiFlyZX Yes, I understand what you meant. I was just pointing out that you considered a 'good cross' a cross where the lawyer falsely presented evidence. I was pointing out that for me, it doesn't matter how smooth Rottenborn spoke. It matters to me that he's not truthful, and an untruthful lawyer is, by its own nature, doing a bad cross in my book.

[@RoseFanton]

Really loved the meta data guy! “People don’t throw out evidence.” BOOM!

[@Emmastayofftheinternet]

I feel like today has been so bad for the heard team. So much evidence to show that 1. She sold the copyrights of that video to TMZ. 2. A forensic expert showed she had edited her photos to make her face seem red and swollen. I'm so excited to see what happens next... I hope to see more debunking of her lies

[@bennypit4411]

Bad...really? Putting Depp back on that stand lost him the case today, do you not see that? Depp went from being in the lead yesterday to being vastly down this evening. Why they put Johnny back on the stand makes no sense, no sense whatsoever. The worst move his team made the whole trial.

[@melanie_227]

I don't think it lost him the case. It was an incoming text about getting/ taking Molly. The cross was good. But that's a far stretch from losing, especially when you look at the evidence as a whole. And not just this one moment

[@cindybeltran992]

@@melanie_227 I agree with you!

[@sallycinnamon5370]

@@melanie_227 I mean…if they realize that it was an incoming text.

[@jessicanicole4458]

@@bennypit4411 Nothing mentioned can prove he physically abused/assaulted Amber. That's what the case is all about. Texts about molly are basically irrelevant.

[@snapoutofit2151]

Johnnys testimony today was heartbreaking. If he’s not acting, his manner of speech, stuttering, grasping for words seems to be a holdover from the abuse he suffered as a child. He comes across as a genuine, gentle, soft-spoken person. The fact he was able to forgive his mother and even grieve her death speaks volumes to him being a genuinely loving person at his core.

[@lyricessence]

It seemed to me that "the light off the occipital bone" comes from his understanding of lighting from his profession and he was explaining that. However, the jury, like Rob, may not think of that.

[@vivianh.8127]

I actually saw on twitter, someone found the original photo on Jonny’s Facebook and it was much different in color. AH Team altered the color to accentuate his shadow under the eyes

[@FC-PeakVersatility]

And if you look at a closeup of the raffles shot you can see that it is just shadow, that there is none of the blue and purple mottling that you can see on the orient express shot. I hope that his own crew pick up on that.

[@angrazu7908]

I don’t think it sounded scripted at all. If he had planned that out and scripted it, I doubt he would have used the wrong terminology. The occipital bone is the back of your head where it meets the neck.

[@lyricessence]

@@angrazu7908 Oh, you're completely right on him using the incorrect name for the cheek bone; I was totally wrong about that. I'm still thinking the relevant part was about lighting a face, which he legitimately knows a thing or two about. Nonetheless, his cross was a win for Rottenborn, with the exception that Rottenborn seems to be living up to his surname.

[@lyricessence]

@@FC-PeakVersatility I hope the jury picks up on that, as it's in their hands now. Well, tomorrow.

[@anders95]

1:12:30 Jesus christ, that was good🔥🔥🔥 "This gets you your 15 minutes of fame" "I could say the same thing about you taking Amber Heard as a client" lmaoo

[@moonchild2077]

That was an awesome moment!!

[@deborahgodley6980]

BRILLIANT retort!

[@anders95]

@RealmEnchanted Yeah, looks like she enjoyed it too haha

[@Sarahvtae]

The text messages literally said "incoming", which means JD received them and did NOT write them!!! How did no one realize that?! I wonder, if AH's legal team knew about that or if they just didn't notice it either...

[@tracyrobledoescobedo8784]

1+

[@fredrickwheeler6852]

​@M Vally Honestly I don't think it's that big of a deal. The messages were terrible, but the way Johnny accepted the one message where he was enraged and rather reasonably explained it, and then vehemently denied the other one in what seemed genuine bewilderment... I'm not sure how the jury will see that but it spoke more to me to the defense team's approach than it did to Johnny's character.

[@cowboybob5301]

no amber heard accepted those messages.

[@Sarahvtae]

@@fredrickwheeler6852 it is a very big deal actually. They claimed these messages to be written by him and just this as their whole argument. JD has repeatedly said "i didn't write that"...which he didn't.

[@Sarahvtae]

@@cowboybob5301 bruh- i'm sorry...but how did you get to that stupid conclusion💀

[@Josh-dr3fj]

I love the way Camille did direct with the TMZ guy. She got him to say she told us when and where she’d be and what to do, and my favorite “how long does it typically take to process a video from getting it to posting it from the copyright holder - about 15 minutes - and how long did it take you to process that video - 15 minutes” nailed her to the wall without ever naming her directly. It gives him the shield of not having flipped on his source while still nailing a dunce cap to her head. Perfection. Favorite moment of the trial right behind the “you’re doing this for your 15 mins of fame -bitch please” DUI Guys reaction (defense side 3 rows back grey suit light green tie, just over cat lad….I mean Elaine’s right shoulder) fucking priceless. 1:12:57 Editing for additions.

[@AislinnTaylor1]

Tbh it isn't often I like judges. However, I love this judge so much. She's grown on me. Very level-headed, fair, and just. I bet she's really cool outside of court too.

[@iceeaslan7597]

When Morgan flat out killed Elaine with that comment, I was dying 🤣 It was pure wittiness and professional at the same time 👏 I just wanna know how Judge A reacted to it. LOL

[@whatiwasgoingtosay]

That young lawyer wasted so much time asking questions about something he clearly does not understand and did more damage to Heard’s case more quickly than even Heard’s disastrous testimony did.

[@hoshi-15]

I love how Camille started the sexual orientation question before it got objected to. It's like she was going Elaine, if you open that door we will kick it in. Don't even try to accuse her of homophobia

[@PiscesMoon2You]

Someone on another thread said that when TMZ guy answered at one point raised his eyebrow and looked over at Amber, as if to say, she did it. Now I have to go back and watch again to catch it.

[@karina7944]

That’s true I noticed that as well

[@Cinaarful]

Time stamp??

[@dazee1084]

Where? I’m dying to see it. He’s amazing.

[@monicaavalos9312]

He kept looking at her- I interpreted his looks like "I'm exposing your lies" He doesn't like her one bit

[@Ademeo326]

He looks towards her when he says b list celebrity lol

[@ingodwetrust1987]

I can't believe they read that text, never thaught "cumm guzzler" or "50 cent stripper" would ever be said in a court room. If anything I think it might have made johnny more relatable. Everyone gets angry when they believe they have been accused of something they didn't do, it's human nature. not saying I believe heard or depp, but he comes across as being more honest as he is well aware of his faults and he acknowledges them. Heard on the other hand believes she's the best at everything and the most amazing person. Also I'm sure I would be losing my mind and send angry texts to my friends if someone said false statements about me.

[@SJ-98]

My personal conspiracy theory: Remember when AH was mad in cross that medical records she “produced” were not shown to the jury? I think it’s because her team knows the records reveal a potential source for her “injuries” outside of JD. Perhaps Botox? A childhood injury from her horse training days? My supposition is that the reason they won’t use the records is because they disprove her case.

[@xaratran]

I think it’s simpler than that. She’s just not credible.

[@NicolaMaxwell]

@@xaratran I agree Xara, she just didn't need medical attention because she's lying in my opinion. I had botox done and I'm pale it left me with bruising and bumps on my head. Plus aesthetic practitioners here in Scotland don't go in your medical records. I don't know about America though.

[@lupitalara6161]

Or they knew that photos were altered and didn’t expect experts to come in and clarify

[@teresawest1787]

It’s my understanding she had issues w cocaine which would cause scar tissues

[@NicolaMaxwell]

@@teresawest1787 You're absolutely right it can cause scar tissue. An old school friend of mine has a hole the size of a jelly bean in his septum from a cocaine addiction. It causes little burns in the nose (and removes nose hair and affects sinuses) even with short term use. My husbands old buddy from childhood had an addiction to it when he was younger and he has completely lost his sense of smell and his nose is full of scar tissue.

[@AtlanticPicture]

Video Copyright: *Somewhere in a TMZ office, there is a VIDEO RELEASE FORM with AH's or her lawyer's signature on it!* bc AH or someone on her behalf sold it. Your photo, video, art work is under copyright protection the moment it is created. Unless you work for someone, and your signed contract states that you release your rights, the copyright belongs to you and ONLY you can sell it. (for infringement lawsuits you actually have to register it, but that's another story) AH Photos: They're edited. WB warmer, saturation, clarity, contrast pushed up to show more drastic/dramatic details. Anyone who ever used a photo editor knows this. Also the one where she said it's 2 diff pics, was probably one of the laziest lies. One can layer it in Photoshop in seconds and it's clear that those are identical images. If AH or someone on her behalf did it is irrelevant. They're edited in a way that benefits only one person: AH.

[@Starfish0.]

I'm only worried that a lot of people kept saying you can layer the pics on Photoshop to figure out they're identical.... I mean, seriously? Even in a basic IQ test for drivers you get better tricks... It's instantly recognizable they are identical... Johnny had an expert today layering them for the jury and I was like: WOW SURPRISE PEOPLE 🙄🙄🙄 I mean even monkeys could notice it come on.

[@Vox-Multis]

@@Starfish0. Thank you for restoring some of my faith in humanity! I was so frustrated with people on another channel saying "wow, I hope JD's team brings in an expert to show the jury how and why you can tell these pics are identical." And I'm sitting there thinking... okay, maybe it'd be nice if they could hammer that point home, but do they really need an expert for this? Are people really that stupid that they can't plainly see that the location of every strand of hair, every eyelash, every shadow and highlight, every single minutia of the camera angle, her posture and her expression, are one hundred percent identical in both images?

[@Starfish0.]

@@Vox-Multis Yeah I was very frustrated too! But the good point about the expert is that he exposed all of those pictures were photoshoped, but also when he layered the pictures, Amber and Elaine got a sad face 😂 it was priceless. I swear if I had the skills I'd make a short animation where the both pictures are shown and everyone is discussing it as if it was a very hard and distant probability of them being the same, then when the expert layer them, the world collapses in surprise as if it was the biggest plot twist in humanity history. The title of the animation would be "Human IQ". Cause seriously 😒

[@Vox-Multis]

@@Starfish0. I'll definitely have to find a clip of that! I am glad someone spelled it out for them, either way. My first thought on seeing the two "separate" images was, "God, I hope the jury isn't as dumb as a box of rocks."

[@AtlanticPicture]

..and yet today we had an "expert" 🤡 lying under oath that those are 2 diff pictures. He tried to save it by saying "visually", but refused to admit that those are the same in an original and an edited version. I wonder who will ever trust him w work in the future..?

[@Cervidae]

the bruise picture showed to johnny was more contrasted, but that doesn’t take away the bruise on johnny’s face

[@bennypit4411]

Pics don't matter, his texts are what buried him today. I've never seen a trial take such a u-turn in my life. This was shocking, Depp went from winning in the morning to having no chance of winning in the evening, after this if he's able to get out without giving her $20 million I'll be surprised. I'll never understand why his team put him back on the stand, it makes no sense.

[@varanchio]

I didn’t get at all what they were trying to do with that honestly

[@lou8178]

Right, even in the “lighter” photo, you can clearly still see that Depp has swelling under his left eye

[@pointegal96]

Poor Bryan Neumeister. He’s just tryna testify and keeps getting shut down. But also Elaine being SO convinced everyone just tryna be famous?

[@amalaylay]

Loved how former TMZ dude called her out and said SHE was the fame seeking one 😂

[@-._.-KRiS-._.-]

@@amalaylay He said the same thing could be said _of_ her, not that she was actually seeking fame. It's semantics but it makes a difference to what his actual words meant.

[@Alzenaish]

At this point I'm sure she's running out of things to say or just projecting

[@samwest6241]

Because that's why she accepted the case 🤣

[@matwatson7947]

Regarding Rottenborn: I think he was doing brilliantly until he started rushing. As a non lawyer when he started talking over JD I began to start feeling sorry for JD and it felt like Rottenborn had something to hide.

[@beteljuice6629]

I wanted to watch this again in replay with some time for distance and I still want to reach through and yell at rottenborne. hearing him say the victim of this crime is lying in open court had me seething It feels so despicable.

[@CHOOKIE67]

I feel the whole point of having JD on the stand again was: 1. His attorney's knew he could handle the questions. 2. It would goad Heard into wanting to have her say AGAIN, and then be crossed by Camille AGAIN, which was absolutely devastating. EDB, Runkle and Rob are really missing the strategy and that is surprising to me.

[@Killer_Turnip]

Very true, Amber's gotta have the last word in the argument and they knew how to bait her ego. They were playing 3D chess with Amber so they could confront her again.

[@czhaok]

No shade but that's why camille is at a very high standing law firm and those three never were, and aren't lol.

[@cmeblu75]

Yup, 💯% agreed!! She ALWAYS has to have the final word and they gambled correctly!!! However, E. Baker is an incredible lawyer and I’m sure if she was working the case and got to know both parties she would e made the same call

[@briannaward292]

Elaine’s ONLY friggin argument is people could only be interested in contributing to this case because they want some type of fame….. series…. 🙄 is that why you took her as a client, Elaine? Is that why the rest of the legal team backed her? There are still people in this culture that want the truth simply for the sake of the truth.

[@redisthecoolestcolour]

@@briannaward292 I think that was a client descision. It's such a strange comment for someone like Elaine to make. I cannot conceive of her saying that in general conversation, but I can totally see Amber saying that.

[@amerrs6616]

If you look at bottom, the status says READ. So that means he received them. Because the messages he actually sent the status says SENT

[@kidr363]

Hi Amy I hope my comment didn't sound as a form of privacy invasion your comment tells of a wonderful woman with a beautiful heart which led me to comment I don't normally write in the comment section but I think you deserve this complement. If you don’t mind can we be friends? Thanks God bless you….

[@alaia-awakened]

@@kidr363 You literally left this exact same comment under someone else’s comment under this video. Not very smooth, buddy

[@gaguirre11]

I hope Johnny will land big movies after this whether he wins or not.

[@Optimiss93]

He won’t.. he will probably win the case and retire with all that money.

[@johntetreault]

Well.... He's probably got at least one.... When they turn the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard story into a film.

[@aetherius6221]

@@Optimiss93 you think he needs AH's money? She's got less net worth than he won here, ~6 mil I think, and he still has millions

[@ilyjustinnozuka]

“Runkle of the Bailey of House Targaryen” I can’t remember which stream Emily said it but it’s been one of my fave quotes from her 🤣

[@stevep2380]

Runkle is one of the most likeable people I've ever seen on the internet. I'd go have a beer with him any day.

[@plutonium2]

We really need to decide which fandom we are putting Runkle into. Is he a Targaryen? Is he Legolas from LotR? Is he elf or wizard? 🧝🧝🧝

[@Miss_Distress]

@@plutonium2 yes

[@plutonium2]

@@Miss_Distress 🤯

[@Vox-Multis]

Ha! I discovered both this and his channel last night, and my first thought on seeing him was "Whoa, he looks just like Daenerys."

[@jackielehman8945]

Kinda felt Johnny went up a 2nd time to bait Amber into going up again, I think they knew if he went up she would want to go up again even if advised not to.

[@mommaseesall4270]

Clarification "they aren't photographs, they are screen grabs". Amazing how the expert identified how Amber edited the hell out of the image to make it "Look" like her face was bruised. That'a why every witness stated they never saw bruises on her face. Lastly, if the photos were critical evidence, why did she "allegedly" destroy her phone?

[@alysaneblackwood]

We're gonna need a biography encyclopedia set after this trial with all the fascinating life stories.

[@princessironlove4508]

I was documentaries

[@LWYMMD]

A to Emily’s question: If I were a juror I’d want to start with a timeline and then see a visual of all photos, audio and visual exhibits on the timeline. I would want to also see each of the testifying witnesses placed on the timeline as to the time period they spoke about, if specific. Expert witnesses who gave testimony attributed to large portions of time could be set aside onto a secondary pie chart where we could gradually, as a group, fill in the relative importance of each topic of testimony as we saw fit (and as we progressed through the timeline). I’d start at the beginning of the timeline, get a relationship history we could all agree upon in terms of basic facts, then look at expert testimony. I think it would be helpful if the jury decided together what the rank order of importance was for the issue were that each expert witness testified to (if expert was not speaking to a clear time period with a start and an end), so that we could come up with an order to review expert testimony that made sense. I’m a visual person so there’s no way I could just listen to a bunch of things and write them down without trying to bring some order to the information visually. It would help me understand how much I had to digest in relation to where I started and what the end goal was. I’ve never been a juror, but it would be great someday to fulfill an important role in a case that mattered. Thanks for this channel!

[@rideronthedrumbeat]

Great answer. If I were one of the jurors I would have had a full annotated timeline at the front of my notebook, otherwise I don't think I would have been able to make sense of it all.

[@Tempo0o]

That made perfect sense, You should ellaborate about this method and if its new in terms of the law - name it after yourself

[@ericaespinosa4030]

I completely agree with you. I am the same. The timeline is what confuses me and that needs to be clearer. Well said

[@raemalone5684]

This is exactly what I was thinking as well!! Sorting out the testimony and timeline is the first thing I would want to do. Walk in that room and be like "sooooooo who wants to make a timeline??"

[@alaia-awakened]

I want to be on a jury with you (and I’m not even from the US)

[@tarrastemen]

I love how nervous her team looked through the forensic data expert testimony. It just shows they are trying very hard to be shifty on their representation of the facts. Manipulating the justice system is not cool.

[@AY-dh5mi]

I finally watched Depps cross and I don't feel its as damaging as some say. You guys all scared me! I felt emotionally upset for JD. I didn't really feel they presented anything new and I think the photos on the train weigh less because of the digital forensic expert. He sent worse texts. Although, if I was a pro-Amber female and I saw those texts I might be put off? But I don't know if that would make me ignore evidence that he never hit her. I also didn't feel he was that argumentative? I also feel it was shitty that no one picked up that one of those set of texts JD denied sending said "incoming".

[@katty5003]

Yess I didn’t take it as that damaging either.. if anything Rottenborn was being to aggressive & fast & didn’t like the answers. No gotcha moment lol. But I do believe that they put him on only coz the knew she would want the last word & testify again. It worked & Depp got to speak the truth on direct.

[@brittneygrace8097]

DAYUM Spicy Draco didn't just drop the 🎤 he dropped 💣💥💣💥 💣💥 💣💥 I'm definitely living for this shizz!!! I love ya and this community @Emily D. Baker. 2 years later and this doesn't get old, i come here and watch ur whole coverage of the case all the way through when i need a laugh due to my depression and anxiety.

[@dazee1084]

The former TMZ Employee …. not all heroes wear capes 💙

[@EbonySeraphim]

I'm a software engineer (heavy computer user since mid-90s) with knowledge of computer graphics files (the information they hold) for over a decade, and even more recently (4 years) into photography and videography as a hobby. I incidentally understand and knew basically everything the digital forensics expert testified to. He was absolutely correct. It was easy to tell why he couldn't say "chroma" or initially linger into the issue of "iTunes backups." Digital forensics is simply tracing the origin of a file and proving or disproving that it has been modified from some original source. The main point of that expert is that none of the photo evidence of Mrs. Heard has anything to prove origin and authenticity. After that, it's a minor detail to understand that the eXif data is meaningless at that point. Cross had a valid point in asking "your testimony did not uncover any evidence demonstrating the photos were edited." I actually think the answer to this question is sort of "yes." The invalidity of the question is that said expert was disallowed to offer that analysis and opinion. All he could say is "can't tell who did what to any of these files." It's like asking someone who is a physicist "you are not able to prove with only pluming knowledge that the universe is 100 billion years old?" There's silliness in the situation and I don't know if the jury reads the issue. I actually think Amber's layers messed up even bigger than what happened as asked "why or how did he think the image data was modified?" That was license for him to go back to talking about analysis of chroma, rgb data etc. AH's team still stupidly opened the door allowing the expert getting into why iTunes backups don't provide any authenticity of the images. AH's team was silly to try to suggest that eXif data showing Photos 3.0 could mean that the files were only opened and resaved. If there was knowledge the pictures were going to be used in a court case, you know you don't want to change things and wouldn't take such a silly step. It sucks that the jury will probably find all of it too confusing. The relevant idea is that none of the photos of anyone can be trusted to show accurate bruising/color. I think a photo expert could prove that edits were made in certain cases (almost certainly inauthentic or inaccurate), but to prove that no edits were made (certain they are authentic) is actually impossible.

[@gnitsaf]

I think they'll get the demonstrative though

[@elbruces]

Rottenborn was playing a weird semantics game regarding the "handle," and he's being so rushed that I don't think anybody else in the courtroom understands what he's talking about. A "handle" of liquor refers to a 1.75L bottle, which may or may not have an actual handle attached. I believe that Depp was referring to a bottle that happened to have a handle on it as part of its design.

[@livewiiiiire]

I really can't believe they wasted so much of their time on that. Rottenborn is such a square that he misrepresented evidence more than once in his cross of JD alone.

[@onestepcloseraway437]

Did anyone notice Amber’s lawyer’s face (the fellow sitting right beside her) during the testimony by the lady that witnessed the fight between Amber and her ex? Wow wow wow. He kept giving Amber side eye and pulling down on his nose….you can almost hear his tortured inner dialog.

[@onestepcloseraway437]

@M Vallythanks for the correction. I’m afraid I don’t know that lawyer’s name! I’ll correct it.

[@Kenkasan]

Timestamp me, daddy :D

[@onestepcloseraway437]

@@Kenkasan 2:37:36

[@DTey22]

Just imagine if we seen all the wild and crazy texts in Amber's phone. This trial would have been over from day 1 lol

[@CatharticCreation]

truth!

[@Cwgrlup]

Johnny Depp’s rebuttal testimony made me feel so sad for him. I think Amber’s demeanor and her attorney’s attitude is really off putting.

[@bennypit4411]

That's what lost Depp this case. I'll never understand why his team put him back on the stand, I've never seen a trial completely shift like this. Depp was in prime position to win this morning, then by the 2:30pm him having no chance of winning whatsoever, it was shocking actually. If he's able to get out without giving Heard anything over $25 million it'll be a win for him now. The jury went from having the best evidence of Heard assaulting him in pictures one minute to having serious doubts the next minute with the same picture. putting him back on the stand lost him this case, and it didn't have to be that way... Major Screw up.

[@CatharticCreation]

@@bennypit4411 you're grossly exaggerating the effects of his testimony, it wasn't that bad.

[@ulisesmoreno8590]

​@@bennypit4411 🤓

[@lotteezy]

@@bennypit4411 i don’t think there’s anything bro coulda said that would’ve made him look worse than any 5 mins of ambers testimony also go look at the texts ab Molly they say incoming and they were pulled from his phone so he couldn’t have sent those, rottenborne was playing a slick game n I hope the jury seen that

[@aliioana8586]

@@bennypit4411 except he didn’t lose the case. He won. On all three of his causes of action. So…

[@my_name_is_rhyme]

when you watch amber leaving the courthouse after getting the protective order, she was trying to make sure everyone saw. she looks like she's showing it off on purpose.

[@BabyKangaroo279]

When I first saw that years ago, I was like...that doesn't look like a punched eye. This seems BS. And didn't pay much attention to it because all his exes were like...no effing way. It's so hard to admit it but seeing the worst in people I already knew that it was a publicity stunt to force his hand. It made me sad. And I'm not even a huge fan of his.

[@lightworks3172]

I had a feeling that someone from SeaTac airport incident would reach out to Johnny's team! And it just came through last night! I have a feeling more people who've interacted with Amber are going to come forward with their personal accounts. Wow, what a day!

[@pointegal96]

I was like “what SeaTac incident” and then OH BOY

[@denisewood9124]

Whats sea tac incident? Pls n i pray more come up thats if their got time n i hope ambas team r not waiting for them to finish n then bring a witness

[@PinkPatriot]

@@denisewood9124 I’m pretty sure the Sea Tac incident is when AH physically abused her ex wife. There were witnesses to the incident and she received a DA charge against her. Sea Tac is the Seattle/Tacoma airport.

[@lightworks3172]

SeaTac is the name of the Seattle Airport

[@Pari_Pixie]

The guy sitting next to Amber and the amount of stress he is displaying is making me diiiie 😂😂😂☠️

[@apriljoyaquino3283]

if you notice, the text messages that Johnny was denying that he wrote it, says "incoming". Meaning he was recieving those messages

[@Somegirl811]

Did you guys laugh when the inn owner said that Depp talking to The Umbrella Guy sounded like schizophrenia?! Like he's some household name that's comparable to TMZ 😂

[@georgiamitchell7670]

Best line and witness in whole trial imo.

[@itsjustlaurel1531]

I loved that part!

[@Ni999]

Elaine asked about _Waldman_ talking to The Umbrella Guy.

[@Somegirl811]

Oh yeah. But the funny thing is that he said someone talking to that guy sounds like schizophrenia. Thanks for correcting me. I forgot exactly, was too busy laughing.

[@Ni999]

@@Somegirl811 No big deal, it was completely hilarious!