Depp v. Heard Trial Day 24- Closing Arguments Rebuttal Vasquez and Rottenborn. Jury gets the case

[@bargell]

If an abused person has no pictures of the abuse is one thing. BUT if the “abused” person has 1000 of pics and NONE of them are on the abuse-something else!

[@kbsskb788]

Personally, my biggest issues with Ambers side of it is her moodswings, expressions that don't feel real and lack of evidence for the serious injuries she claims. Makeup don't heal swelling and cuts, and she never got medical help. Even if I try not to be biased, it's so hard to believe it. And then I can't believe anything else they says either. That's not to say that I believe everything from JDs side, I just don't believe that he was physically abusive.

[@leticiavasquez8566]

As a dv survivor i have been saying this from day one. I had no evidence no photos no witnesses. But it still happened and people believe me that i have told. Though i never went to the police or outed him publicly. So i defo believe we should believe victims even in absemce of so called proof. But when you make it into a court room for a restraining order and you blast it in the news and you have as you say 1000s of photos of broken picture frames and graffitid mirrors and an addict passed out on 100 places and 5 photos of suss bruises where it is possoble youve even edited it yet no photos of the extreme wounds you most definitely would have gotten rings or no rings...i have questions.

[@Ishizu09]

I know right.? She has photos of everything BUT the thing she is at court for. The result of her own abuse! Girl plz! I dont believe that any normal victim would be that confident to go to court with such things...

[@charg1nmalaz0r51]

Exactly and on top of that shes unique in the fact she has press taking pictures of her everywhere. JD would have to be a monumental idot to take this to a televised trial if any of these accusations were true.

[@karatekaninen3045]

There has been no evidence of sexual abuse presented in court, very little of physcial abuse but there has been plenty of proof showing they both have been abusive against eachother emotinal and verbal (only fanatict fans makes excuses for either side) AH and JD need to take responsibilty for their behvaour against eachother but with their fanatic fans enabling them they probably never will

[@sheila6479]

It bothers me that the news is portraying johnny depp supporters as if the only reason people are supporting him is because of who he is. If i honestly thought he was guilty i would not support him

[@richelleeasley6492]

Yep, there are definitely actors who I enjoyed but refuse to watch anything with them in it after Me Too

[@Sacgirl03]

I'm sure Amber's PR person will use that to her benefit when this is over.

[@themikatoon]

Exactly this. I can't watch any movie with actors like James Franco, Kevin Spacey, Mel Gibson etc without their abuse being burned in my head

[@jamiwengler338]

That's why the news is starting to lose viewers to KZbin! We are sick of hearing what mainstream media says we should all think!

[@kpatters78]

Right? I LOVED both Louis C.K. and Kevin Spacey. Would NEVER support either after the VERY credible accusations against both

[@pyrovania]

Mr. Rottenborn, we ARE standing up for victims of domestic violence. We just happen to think that's Mr. Depp not Ms. Heard.

[@DevHazy]

He was hit first many times

[@jessbawa4531]

🤦‍♀️the fact his name is rottenborn…I mean..🤣🤣🤣🤣 there were no other lawyers she could obtain?! this is the craziest trial I’ve ever seen 🤦‍♀️🤣

[@loriburnip]

@@jessbawa4531 I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking that. The first time I heard someone say his name I thought they were calling him names.🤣

[@sekichdawn3913]

Powerful statement and TRUE ❤️❤️❤️❤️ Congratulations 🎉🎉🎉 Mr. Depp💗💗💗

[@sekichdawn3913]

@@loriburnip I'm sure he hates his name🤪 He's probably a good lawyer..just had a shitty lying client.

[@zarouliaall5390]

Watching Elaine in closing was actually embarrassing to me, it felt like she was literally rambling about nothing. But rottenborn was continuously misrepresenting facts and testimony, that was infuriating to me.

[@SkeletinaScreama]

The definition of cringe. 😬

[@retrocny5625]

Thought the same. It reeks of desperation. Team AH definitely went into this trial confident, the law WAS on their side as it's very hard to prove defamation with public figures.... but this trial was so incredibly damaging to their client, so much evidence and contradictory testimony, and Amber Heard did not do her case any favors and made their job MUCH harder.

[@bmomgrimm6242]

💯 at least Rottenborn was trying his best to pull this victory from the shitshow that Amber put on.

[@i_aint_ai]

Yah im confused about how he is basically able to lie in his closing. Is twisting facts different than lying? s

[@NOYB6930]

Rottenborn wasn’t arguing the facts, at least not in the initial closing statement, he was arguing the law. A subtle distinction, and most lawyers who were watching and commenting on his initial closing statement agreed that he did a very good job arguing the law. Elaine was there to argue the facts. And I heard some analysis basically saying that Ben Chew could have easily objected to so much of Elaine’s closing statement but that attorneys are very sensitive to how offputting that can be for the jury and held back.

[@greydogggg]

If, as argued by her team, AH's op-ed is protected by freedom of speech, how can they argue that Mr. Waldman's statement is not also protected?

[@Busstavo]

Freedom of speech arguments are used when convenient. The reality is the right to say something is protected but not from the consequences from lying and saying some crazy stuff

[@lynmar77]

If you have ever been abused you would naturally dislike the imposter pretending to have been abused.

[@nomdeplume2213]

​@@melissal.lanier4823 ??? i think theyre says johnny doesnt like amber feigning victim hood when shes the abuser... 🤔

[@zebeart8808]

I agree. Amber Heard has damaged the progress of women in this society

[@LegalTubes]

Amen

[@meganmoon6197]

Bingooo

[@KathyHussey063]

here here !!

[@soonnah9521]

Amber's smug face really pissed me off during Camille's rebuttal. Woman you've been caught lying COUNTLESS times and have the AUDACTIY to smirk like that? I'm sorry that's disgusting behaviour.

[@evequeen8282]

So hard to watch!!!

[@rchmrrs]

I’m surprised she held her head high… it should’ve been hung in shame. Just shows how entitled and deranged she is.

[@FabiolaRVela]

Idk how she doesn’t realize she looks SO SMUG, at least try and look a little human and humble Infront of the jury 😂🥴😬

[@speed150mph]

The good part is I’m sure the jurors notices as well.

[@soonnah9521]

@@speed150mph I hope so. For all of us watching it's so clear who is in the right and wrong throughout all of this. We see everything and we also have background information as well as information the public / social media is finding during the trial. The jury has none of that and I find myself wishing they can just see even half of what we do.

[@kendallneason3645]

Watching JD face when listening to the recordings and rocking back and forth to self-soothe is classic of a DV victim. Heartbreaking. I hope he gets his life and career back and is finished with AH. I hope they both heal!

[@80Ragincajun]

You are correct he is the only one that displayed the effects of DV. When you would hear her yelling and belittling him. His head is down and moving around looking to get out of this uncomfortable position. It's truly sad to see. But Amber shows all signs of the aggressor, not a DV victim. She also said it, " I NEVER ONCE CLAIMED TO BE A VICTIM." Great situational awareness to pick up on Johnny's actions.

[@droneandpix]

Amber won’t need to worry about money in the future she’s going to have an amazing career as a makeup artist! Her skills are just off the wall! I can’t even disguise a spot yet she flawlessly covers a broken nose and bruises! Amazing!

[@LeslieStinson]

🤣

[@zahedah80]

No...even that won't work because she couldn't even cover up her dark under eye bags in court

[@Lou-xq9br]

😆😅😆 very true!!

[@lynmar77]

😃

[@yorkiemom7858]

Yeah props to her for covering up the swelling!🤣🤣🤣

[@drevsgames1172]

You know when you’ve just watched like 7 seasons of an amazing TV show on Netflix and the credits are rolling on the finale and you don’t know what to do with your life afterwards? That’s how I feel right now

[@scarlettleake4462]

Exactly how I’m feeling at this moment!😂😭

[@sydneybaker8618]

Same here!

[@sun-risen8686]

Omgoodness you have my feelings exactly!! What will we all do???? ☹️

[@Cekatu]

Dreves Games: you perfectly expressed my feelings, at the moment ✔️

[@SalemSphynx]

Me too!!!😳 If nothing else it was very cool seeing how this sh*tshow trial brought so many ppl together! 😊

[@highnoonracoon]

The affection that Johnny shows for Camille when she finishes her statement really is telling. She is not afraid of him. He seems to be such a loving and affectionate person and I feel like that held so much volume.

[@aliioana8586]

That’s also very intentional. It’s specifically designed to make you come to this exact conclusion. While I don’t believe a word Amber ever said, it is important to note that little things like a young female attorney clearly not being afraid next to him are very intentional.

[@marinamavrogenis4381]

"Stand up for all DV victims" Rottenborn was low blow to the jurors. Basically telling them if they don't vote for this lying woman, they're somehow voting against DV. That statement angered me

[@celiamaness8856]

Me too!

[@arshatarifin7442]

Can't stomach to watch his closing..I guess many lawyers were born to be rotten exactly like his name suggested.

[@pattydella4]

Honestly, though, if Johnny wins, they WOULD be standing up for DV victims!

[@jamiwengler338]

Yeah that was low the trial wasn't about anyone but amber

[@joeyalfano2096]

They are standing up for DV victims.. because JD is the victim here..

[@coffeengrace8973]

She’s never gonna let this go. No matter the outcome she will continue doing her best to destroy using malice to every media outlet/show that will listen. Narcissists won’t stop until they feel they’ve ‘won’ and have power over you. She wants the power she feels he has. And it’s a losing battle for her. So so sad. I grieve for the people in her life that have had to live along side this.

[@catherineellison5822]

Especially the innocent child she now has....💔

[@florac6906]

People need to ignore her and stop paying attention to her after this trial . This is gonna kill her

[@leticiavasquez8566]

She is now a victim of the justice system as well as of Johnny , Hollywood etc. Even though almost all the media on all sides of politics seem to be most critical of Johnny Depp.

[@DevHazy]

@@leticiavasquez8566 she’s not a victim at all. She filed the tro and the divorce lol how is she a victim

[@leticiavasquez8566]

@@DevHazy i mean she will now to herself and her audience/backers be a victim of justice as well as the rest of it. I was continuing from the original comment.

[@cidevant002]

Camille: These are all the experts and witness that say that Amber is lying. Rottenborn: And here is what Amber and her sister said!

[@casandrawhittington4390]

I’m so shocked at how this trail has played out. Didn’t realize how much the world was going to see the true amber

[@B_Bodziak]

I think we know why she tried so hard to keep the cameras out. Since the UK hearing was closed to the public, she likely thought the public would never see her deposition, either. The one she's eating in and smirking and being so flippant. I'm glad the VA jurors were able to view some of it, as well, and see how differently she behaved in each hearing.

[@nomdeplume2213]

ikr. those of us whove been here for 4-5 yrs didnt think johnny would ever come out on top. thankfully hes a smart man and fought to have it televised. he knew shed twist, skew and manipulate what happened in court to the public like she did in the UK case. thankfully ppl got the evidence literally shoved in their face because its been out for 4 yrs and only a minority of us decided to look at it before automatically believing amber.

[@maryjanemorse7879]

Im shocked too. It seemed like a play! Just so odd and bad lawyers. Today, Elaine’s closing was a joke. Kinda like a sports game when the team is payed big money to lose on purpose. It felt very off. Her being so nasty with facial expressions and way over the top lying???

[@FabiolaRVela]

Me too, I didn’t expect it to be this shit show 😬, she really isn’t a pleasant human being it seems.

[@richelleeasley6492]

I can hear her laugh in my nightmares

[@PromisedJubilee]

Omgosh, Johnny's mouth dropping open as Camille is listing all these people in support of him like it just hit him 😭

[@zahedah80]

When? I didn't see that at all during the rebuttal

[@Devilstrings7]

Yes, when?

[@AngelicCreationsTV]

😢😢😢

[@Mae-cs2ze]

@@zahedah80 During closing arguments I think

[@marychocolatefairy]

@@zahedah80 10:37 is when she's setting up the list of people. It goes on for over 2 minutes.

[@nyxxys8982]

I remember you saying you didn’t like that Depp’s team was reading from a script for their closing argument but I think it kept them on track and was a nice linear narrative. If you look at the time difference between the two it shows how each team used their time. Which Amber’s team had 6+ minutes for their rebuttal while Johnny’s team had I think like 40 minutes.. which WOW

[@Kiterpuss]

Also, it was necessary for those tech cues to flow smoothly. I feel like a trial this public is the one place where a scripted closing might look better too.

[@judysmalls6467]

Who cares if she was reading IT SOUNDED MUCH BETTER THAN ELAINES FOOLISHNESS!

[@rosemarykarlsson593]

Amber can’t act when it comes to abuse. I grew up in an abusive home, the anguish never goes away. She was as convincing as a 16 year old girl whining for a new car.

[@marvelgoddess4183]

Exactly me too and you don’t taunt and laugh at your abuser. Amber is FOS

[@rhondasisco-cleveland2665]

Me too. Supposedly AH grew up in an abusive home. It’s supposed to be part of her damage. I hope this is what she needs to change, (I know, I struggle to be optimistic about it.) she has a vulnerable child who shouldn’t grow up in the hands of a sick person. My wish is she will change.

[@erasure33]

This is an extremely powerful statement coming from an abuse victim. Thank you for sharing it.

[@rainbowgoth1566]

As I commented elsewhere, my husband is a type 1 diabetic. When his sugar goes incredibly low, he is like a drunk toddler and doesn't remember. I've tried to show him videos and audios and he's so embarrassed by them and he gets mad at me. There's no way she could do that to someone who physically abused her without punishment.

[@mariee.5912]

💗

[@LittleMissStamper]

I'm just so *GLAD* that *SOMEONE* finaly *STOOD UP FOR HIM* Yes his lawyers are paid....but after working with him for so long I truely believe they really *CARE ABOUT HIM* and genuinely believe and want justice for him. *Ben Chew getting choked up, the passion in Camille's voice....that's not something you can buy* ❤️⚖️

[@Synthia17]

I love how Ben always pats him on his back and comforts him and that group hug makes me happy, whatever happens Johnny won in most of our hearts.

[@090403created]

Exactly!

[@leximike1784]

Exactly

[@Ms10yearsafter]

Oh, I choked up when he did..it was so🥺my heart melted!! Camille..what a woman what a lawyer!! 😇💪 Love her! She's going to have clients from now on in piles if not before.. Hey from Helsinki 👋

[@yvieb2962]

@@Synthia17 Perfectly said and very true!

[@kattiaphotomaton3800]

"I'm a human being."- Amber Heard "Objection your honor, lack of foundation."

[@tanjasaarinen7779]

😅😂👌👌

[@TheFaro2011]

Like Jonny ain't

[@seabedpebbles]

🤣🤣🤣

[@cassiareece4310]

😂I’m dead!

[@marywhite107]

Is she sure? She sure don't act like one.

[@cynimonry5919]

I cracked up when the "amber alert" went off in the courtroom during this trial! You just can't make this stuff up!! Hilarious timing! 🤣🤣🤣

[@xxxASSASZINxxx]

It was a weather alert. Tornado weather in va at the moment

[@xxxASSASZINxxx]

@@NachoKitty i was at work today when it happened haha. I weld and all the other welders whipped out their phones for a tornado warning. My immediate thought was the trial since i know it’s in VA

[@SalemSphynx]

The Universe interjecting its opinion lol🤣

[@honeynut26]

Me too! An amber alert is so ironic omg .. can’t make this stuff up

[@alaia-awakened]

Don’t forget we’ve had the Universe weighing in before with the thunderclap and halo of light 🤣

[@cleobinx]

To see JD look broken while AH smirks is just so so telling

[@noramero2955]

Elaine smirking and laughing was not helping her either.

[@KiteBlackthorn]

@@melissal.lanier4823 ima ignore all the tomfoolery in your comment and just address that she was laughing and smirking while they were literally talking about how she abused him, he was rocking at one point, looks very ill for most of it and at one point when an audio was playing of an argument he recoils when she starts screaming at him in the audio, today was very telling. While she was writing notes telling her lawyers how to do their jobs he looked like he was having the worse day of his life, I don't care if you sympathise with amber but people like YOU are the reason why men don't feel like they can come forward and talk about their abuse

[@cleobinx]

@@melissal.lanier4823 girl , do not come at me . I am an SA survivor and Amber in my opinion , is a lier . She is the only one that is making a mockery of DV and SA, in my opinion. Jd got snarky when he was being attacked . He was smiling ( not smirking they are very different)and laughing when AH supposed experts where being absolutely ridiculous and even the judge had to hide her expressions. JD looked to be in pain when AH was testifying, while AH was smirking and sending eye rolls to her sister while JD is talking about a day she supposedly SA’d . Do NOT come for me and accuse me of what you have for my opinion. This channel does NOT stand for that , and if you can’t handle yourself in a way that isn’t fuckery , then don’t comment . This isn’t Twitter , be respectful.

[@emmyjulianne6850]

@@melissal.lanier4823 can’t wait to see all y’all DOOKIE DEFENDERS eat your words

[@jamesbnkc1990]

@@melissal.lanier4823 It's the other way around. People like you are why so many men stay quiet and don't speak out when their abused the way he was. I didn't like Depp before this trial but after hearing about his upbringing and background then what he went through to the point of being set up and recorded and still didn't hit her but walked away my hats off to him. Not to mention all the men she cheated on him with while he was away. It's disgusting. He gained one more fan after this. God bless Johnny Depp for being a good man and doing the right thing when most wouldn't have.

[@daphne10120]

Hearing AH’s teams closing statements/rebuttal was like watching a middle school debate team. I have such bad second hand embarrassment

[@m.n.7489]

Judge will be so bored when she works on her next case. She was stellar. Nice work Emily. Love that you break this down for non-legal minds. You are a rock star.

[@chandruishwar1]

I'm finding it difficult get out of this case, it's a hangover i never want to end and if it ends i want to be done with it. I'm suffering

[@griffinmathers929]

I beg to differ. She was not dazzled by the Hollywood of it, Great judge, by the way. She runs a tight ship and was very kind and showed a sense of humor with the phone call and her Mother in law. :) This had to be exhausting for everyone in that room.

[@griffinmathers929]

@EshwarChandra P Friend, I hope you get out and do things that bring you joy. Or find those things. Emily is fun, so keep watching her, she seems to have a great community here.

[@sxaf8426]

@@chandruishwar1 i think op meant because of all the crazy funny things that went on not the hollywood aspect of it..althought the judge has probably seen some crazier stuff before

[@sigheyeroll]

I think she'll be relieved if anything. It's hard to run a court when outside the court is media circus.

[@JimJonesBeverageCo]

I adore Camille. She is so sharp and knows she's in it for the right reason.

[@dijonvolner6024]

Camille is very easy on the ears. Amber's legal team give me a migraine

[@marywhite107]

@@dijonvolner6024 They stressed me the heck out!

[@jlseagull2.060]

Good to know I am not the only one. I was wondering if I am losing my language ability as I am aging??!! 😏

[@sandyrivera5025]

Agreed

[@lisacranmer8005]

@@lookingupwithwonder that's what I said...paper and ink DNT lie but PEOPLE do... Research and pictures DNT lie.....I was with a abuser 24 years and in the end he broke my back and almost died from pancreatitis, Sepsis FROM what they sowed....what happens in the dark will come out to the light...no one can mock Jeh God.

[@guestdeej]

the rebuttal of CV is so powerful, listening to her and watching JD's reaction gives you all the feels, if only you can transmit a hug through a screen

[@vorthora]

I loved when the judge gave a shout out to "the real star here" : the Stenographer!

[@ZhengLuhuan]

Camille is 100% 'Your trust in AH is all or nothing'. You either believe everything AH said or you believe none of it. Go get it Camille 👏 👏 👏 The jury has a lot to think about.

[@LauraGaulke]

This was a huge and important rebuttle to the Heard team saying it only takes believing one thing she said.

[@jessbawa4531]

@@LauraGaulke I don’t even understand that defense wtf if something happened once that makes it so perpetually? They’re idiots. He objected to his own question 😂😂😂 so he made a huge hilarious embarrassing mistake once, that means he will forever? Believe one thing she says psssh ok they believe her name is amber heard, that’s about it

[@jessbawa4531]

@@LauraGaulke I’m sure the jury believes / sees the perjury

[@VallerieMalkin]

Jury's being gaslit to a faretheewell by TeamDepp.

[@lisacranmer8005]

Yep..that was greatttttttt

[@rishikagupta4841]

Camille Vazquez is an inspiration for all women, but especially young women in a career dominated by old men. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@kalayne6713]

Seeing Johnny rocking, self soothing, hearing Camille's words of his alleged abuse of Amber was telling. I just wanted to comfort him, and I am a 70 year old woman DV survivor abused by my first responder husband for 11 years. This has been so triggering but as the mother of a son who married and finally left, an abusive woman, I watch for all of us.Never fear truth.Apparently Rottenborn does.

[@Cherrysmith2809]

I hate to say it, but he was nodding off.

[@frankiegregson7228]

@@Cherrysmith2809 theres also video of him pacing while really upset in an elevator, he's rocking. It's not an uncommon stimming self soothing thing for ppl who have ADHD If he was nodding off his head would be dipping down and it's not

[@Cherrysmith2809]

@@frankiegregson7228 Watch again. Early on, his eyes were closing for long periods of time and his head did dip and he jerked back up. I was like noooo, Johnny, don’t nod off.

[@kristin4185]

I love the little head pat he gave Camille at the end after their quick embrace. This is such a dad "I'm proud of you" gesture, and it shows how close he and his team is, and how proud and confident he is in the work they put into defending him, no matter the outcome. There is no way he can be upset or dissatisfied with anything they did in that room. They were beyond professional, beyond prepared, and ready to fight. Please don't let the jury fail them.

[@user-jg9ls2sq7c]

the fact that she classifies herself as a big name actress is laughable...Ive never even heard her name before now🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️...she presents as a text book narcissist

[@sp00kyd4ddy6]

Exactly I had no idea she was even in aquaman 1 because her character was so forgettable. Same thing with her zombieland land where she literally cries just like she did in trial lmfao

[@ElJebetequa]

This was about her Amber so let's give her the attention she demands and let's focus on how she behaved, let's look at her actions not her words. ⚖️ intolerantpeople, disrespect, narcissist, greed, sociopath. These are people who engage in unethical or immoral acts. Narcissists and sociopaths are never neighbours. NPDs are sociopaths with a lot of pride, and believe everyone is stupid or to be used. 🙏🙏

[@TOKAHONTAS69]

Ikr. Her lawyer said she was big like Jason and Zyndaya and someone else and I was face paling for 20 minutes. Crazy b@#$%😳🤦‍♀️😡

[@BabyKangaroo279]

I knew her name. But only because I saw her in Criminal Minds and told myself to avoid anything she stars in. Something about her was way off-putting.

[@aliioana8586]

@@BabyKangaroo279 super late but THANK YOU!! you’re the only other person I’ve seen that knows her from that one single 2006 episode of criminal minds when they had her play a one-episode love interest of our lord and savior, Dr. Reid. They did him dirty with this😂

[@ReebaD]

Of course I’m biased for Depp, but after watching the whole trial, I feel like you can’t escape that Amber lied about SO much to the point that I couldn’t believe anything she says. The entire underlying premise of the op-ed is based on a lie, it’s obviously defamatory, she obviously knows it’s untrue… sounds like a win to me?? I just hope the jury sees it that way too 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

[@celiamaness8856]

Same!

[@Cleffa168]

Yeah exactly. I now in terms of law, JD has a higher burden of proof. But I think JD's team showed enough evidence for me to check all the boxes and conclude that there is defamation to JD by AH. Rottenborn tried to expand the definition of abuse by including everything possible including verbal and psychological but that's like saying feeling offended when you didn't put the toilet seat down is the same as cutting someone's finger off. Any person with some common sense can tell that's preposterous. But idk the jury needs more time which means they are having trouble getting an unanimous agreement and that's worrying to me. I just hope we get an end to this once and for all and not enable some one like AH again.

[@karatekaninen3045]

This trial has showed that she has lied and been abusive too, but notice that I say 'too' because we also have seen evidence of JD being emotional and verbally abusive and that is not ok eithe, they both have been abusive and they wont take responsibilty and some of their fans are enabling them, the same fans that doesnt seem to have a problem with online abuse themself Defamationlaws are tricky, some laywer say if they got strictly after the law they wil both loose, but its a jury and they can base it on emotions(look at Oj simpsons and other celebrity trials) wich is why team JD wanted a jury

[@kiera_klark8171]

@@karatekaninen3045 could you mention in what instances he’s been verbally abusive ? Honestly I don’t think he has but I also haven’t seen the whole thing

[@karatekaninen3045]

@@kiera_klark8171 Im sorry I thought you had watched the whole trial. There are plenty of evidence in form of textmessages and audioclips that shows how they both have been screaming, calling eachother som vile things But then again some people find it normal to call the other one a c*nt, Wh*re and other words, but those of us tfhat arent in a abusive realtionship knows that the kind of behavour JD and AH has showed is not normal or ok and we dont make excuses for neither AH or JD

[@feranoks]

Wow Amber didn't even clap for Judy... on that alone she's guilty. Yes I know it's not a criminal case. But not applauding Judy is a crime!

[@amelzon1]

Judy killed it. There’s a clip out there of her kind of trying to get Johnnys attention and he smiles and waves and engages in a conversation with her. It’s really sweet.

[@gracenurse3365]

Is Judy one of his fans?

[@FabiolaRVela]

@@gracenurse3365 idk how anyone would know this lol

[@maryannpurvis9789]

idk who judy is. court reporter?

[@B_Bodziak]

I noticed AH and lawyer to the right if her were the only ones not clapping.

[@brookeperezhuston]

The difference in AH's faces when Camille is speaking vs when her team is speaking is so wildly different lol. If I was on the jury I'd be so suspish

[@BabyKangaroo279]

It's one of the reasons why I believe she's not just BPD and HPD. Sure, they go through extreme, rapid swings of mood, but their emotions are felt to the core. She, on the other hand, has shallow emotions as if she doesn't completely understand anything beyond feelings of rage, contempt, and self-pity. Plus...whatever pleasure she feels only shows up when she sees the amount of pain she's caused the people around her. I cannot diagnose but jeezus. I have to question if there's more than those 2.

[@brookeperezhuston]

@@BabyKangaroo279 very true- but a psychopath doesn't actually feel emotions like "normal" humans do...they are usually better at imitating it- like Ted Bundy, but like Joe at Good Lawgic said, he thinks she has pretty girl syndrome. Ppl don't typically challenge pretty girls bc they want their approval so she's never had to really improve her lying skills. For once she was really challenged- with in your face evidence like the tapes, & she was caught at being one of the worst liars anyone has had the privilege to witness! The fact that she's so clueless with how emotions work that she'd be in the middle of writhing around and trying to act like she was hyperventilating and hysterical but an objection would come and she'd just instantly stop dead. Lol. Then carry on with her melodrama as soon as the objection was decided. It was amazing to watch! And I honestly think she just can't accept or believe the jurors or the public didn't find her believable- instead it was all social media. What she fails to understand is, social media was reacting to her asinine performance on the stand!

[@klarenee1123]

They did address her witnesses, they said no one *physically* showed up for her except her sister and paid experts.

[@zahedah80]

Right?!?!?!?

[@reginaheath6131]

Exactly

[@asavlogsalltruthrevealed7483]

Yea and through deposition,& what did het solicitr say she had people come to testify fr her,camille nvr said she didnt,camile said in person her friends didnt come.

[@rachelbowlow9925]

@@melissal.lanier4823 I’ve noticed you’re all over the comments talking about how powerful JD is. I feel like you’re dismissing the fact that her friends could’ve paid to fly out for her. It feels like something someone would do if they know their friend has been horribly abused and is now being accused of faking.

[@klarenee1123]

@@melissal.lanier4823 mmkay… people show up when it matters. This matters. Those people are no longer in her life but they’ve perjured themselves so many times they can’t stop now🤷🏻‍♀️

[@suzanakiley5158]

It really bothers me how Rottenborn manipulated what Camille said and took things out of context. I feel like Amber’s lying rubbed off on her team, I know they have a duty to their client but man it feels really yucky and irresponsible to blatantly lie.

[@lisafarley5763]

He just wants to win, but if you have to lie to win, it's not worth the win in my book. How can he feel good about that? Despicable douche bag!!!

[@pcatMe]

I think they had no choice. AH's lies gave them nothing to work with so they were left with attacking all the witnesses lol

[@pcatMe]

Lol good one!

[@elfzen3489]

I mean it's his job, he had to say something but the jury isn't stupid 🙄

[@arshatarifin7442]

Well..he's born to be rotten I guess.

[@campbellsoup93]

"If they're not friends anymore, then why are they doing what they're doing" Because they already DID it. Rocky and Josh were there when this all started. They were all in on the lie when it began, they pushed the lie over and over. If they back out now, they're admitting they lied about something so despicable. They'd be putting their careers and reputation in the garbage by coming out now. Their ONLY option is to double down. Just like Amber's doing.

[@Lilc97Jax]

Not only that, they did sworn statements and were deposed under oath & testified in last trial, so they could be put in jail for perjury.

[@campbellsoup93]

@@Lilc97Jax Not so much for the last trial since it was in the UK and the US won't extradite for perjury. At the worst they'd get banned from travelling or doing business there ever again. But they did give sworn statements for the divorce hearing so they could certainly face jail time depending on what they said there.

[@TheNewfiegirl1234]

Exactly… they all have to protect the lie… at all costs. They never dreamed that they would have to testify, under oath in a court of law… it must have been a Oh Shit moment.

[@Lei-AICPhD]

Exactly when they were all best friends and Roc and Josh were married. All was well. That’s why you always be careful who’s hill you die on.

[@timharris2291]

The soy boy thought he was going to get some pussy for what he did; there's no hope for him. But Rocky, I like to think she might repent and confess some day. I'm sure Amber offered her a bundle in exchange for her testimony, and forgot to add, "assuming we win of course."

[@zebeart8808]

I'll be glad when this trial is over so I can get some work done. Even at work, I keep wondering what I am missing. Thanks for these videos.

[@rachelsmithrealtor]

YESS!!! Man I've been so un productive...

[@090403created]

Same

[@mahayuniisti4349]

Same here.. I reschedule some my work hour..for watching this trial☺

[@azinniah.5704]

@@mahayuniisti4349 i was very tempted to do the same.

[@allietv620]

Today is also his daughters birthday. It would be nice to see justice for both of them today since Amber decided to start all this on her birthday 6 years ago.

[@etaylor832]

I think when she started this she knew what day it was and it was intentional. Smh she has no bounds.

[@allietv620]

@@etaylor832 I completely agree. I think she did that on purpose too.

[@therealdeal3672]

She was probably jealous of Lily Rose and this was a good way to make a jab at her, at the same time as Johnny.

[@etaylor832]

@@therealdeal3672 Which is very toxic and sick to be jealous of a child. Let alone one you should be treating as your own. This is why I believe her child needs to be removed from her care. A parent like her will only diminish a child's light the moment it does not fit into their bounds. She has displayed she will go to any lengths to get her way and has attacked the very ones she has claimed to love including her sister. She is sociopath.

[@DevHazy]

Me too my birthday too lol

[@TwinkleStar987]

Emily I can’t believe it’s over. Also can’t believe I watched a court case. But it’s been an absolute pleasure to share with other Law Nerds. (Though the chat was super fast with 100’s of 1,000’s in the chat). I love the environment you create in the chat and community. It’s safe. I thank you and you’re fans.

[@meganmoon6197]

Emily going “Oh girl” when Camille said no one showed up for Amber is a mood

[@teresadragstream8648]

Omg I was at work. Where can I enjoy this juicy bit?

[@meganmoon6197]

@@teresadragstream8648 I can’t find the exact time yet but it’s Camille’s closing rebuttal.

[@meganmoon6197]

32:11!

[@anonymoushuman8443]

Damn that must have stung for Amber 😬

[@herertolearn3418]

I wonder how that made Amber feel. I wonder if Amber has feelings?

[@beckychristopherson8001]

The sweet way he kind of nuzzled her head with his hand when she sat down gave me proud & grateful paternal vibes - not in a condescending way, just in a way that he sees she's younger than him and he thinks she did a great job. Hopefully that shuts up the people speculating they are romantically involved (which I agree is disgusting and completely undermines professional women lawyers). I see a professional relationship that has turned into a platonic friend relationship between Mr. Depp and all of his lawyers after being in the trenches for YEARS. That's trust.

[@bs4e644]

I saw that too! Like a proud dad or something.

[@snooginsmcgee9739]

absolutely! there's no way he and camille are in a romantic relationship. She's his lawyer bestie. that's bestie behavior. He has a really healthy relationship with his lawyers whereas if you look at ambers legal team they all look miserable. So i believe she's verbally abusive to them, calling them idiots and that they aren't doing a good enough job to make her look good, etc. %100.

[@alaia-awakened]

Platonic friendships between men & women are so underrated

[@JLynnEchelon]

While I do absolutely agree with you, the dating rumor was absurd from the start and I think any interaction can and will be twisted.

[@veronicavatter6436]

Like a sister

[@lorizeppelina2286]

Runkle is delightful! Love his insightful updates!

[@caldonia7208]

As one who has been on three jury trials, I must say that by and large, most jurors take their civic duty very seriously.

[@yorkiemom7858]

I have served on a few and every time I have we took it very seriously. I seem to get chosen a lot as a now retired claims adjuster. Yeah I know…those of us who are honest get a bad rap for all the unscrupulous ones out there

[@nomdeplume2213]

statistics say 7% of jurors do outside research, do you feel thats accurate?

[@sim771]

@@nomdeplume2213 there are 12 members and 7% do outside research so less than 1 person per jury. Based on the hundreds of thousands of jurors, potentially millions selected, 7% is not statistically significant at not even one per case. Is it accurate? Idk, where did you find the statistic, what type of juries - criminal or civil, at what level of courts is it from, what geographical location was the populous, how old is the statistic, and what's the credibility of the source? Weird question to ask...

[@DomCoreLeon]

@@sim771 most trials don't have much to even find online comparatively to this being the most viewed trial of the last several decades and hard to avoid even in daily life. Also, this jury is about half of 12 as not all juries have that many participants.

[@caldonia7208]

@@nomdeplume2213 When I served, social media wasn't that huge. My guess is that more than 7% do outside research, especially with a case this big. Have to say, at the time, I did talk with my husband about the case, especially the criminal one, but I didn't look up anything else.

[@imacmill]

Wild, wild speculation regarding ex-friends testifying on her behalf: AH has some sort of leverage on all of them. Her pre-trial reconnection with them was to 'remind' them what she knows.

[@jannashepherd]

THIS. Spot on. It's also in the news re: Elon as the baby daddy. What dirt does she have on him?

[@007Thenderson]

They were all pretty old depos too.

[@munchiekins]

this is purely speculation but I feel like she blackmailed them into testifying for her and they may have said if you do this we cant be friends anymore (because its fucked to be blackmailed by your friend) and she said okay fine we arent friends but i still need you to testify. i think this because so many of her witnesses seemed upset, or struggling.

[@tehm-tpc]

In most of the cases isn't it just that they submitted statements in the UK trial and then Amber being Amber she burned her bridges and now she needs them to go back to the well so she reminds them that if they say anything other than what they said before it would be perjury and if they don't play along "someone" will call them as a hostile witness and put them on the spot. Probably why they ALL seemed to stick exactly the the script from years ago and completely failed to backup anything she layered on or made up during this trial.

[@imacmill]

@@jannashepherd _Elon as the baby daddy. What dirt does she have on him?_ I _think_ it's common knowledge that Elon likes his sex parties at his mansions and is into some pretty...let's call it...kinky stuff.

[@maramirkin3325]

Runkle is adorable. I really appreciate his take, having been in the court room. You’ve done an awesome job sharing your passion for the law, and making it tangible for those of us whom don’t fully understand the law. I do hope in the end that AH chooses to get help. Doubtful, yet her blatant lies and demeanor are disturbing. She is easy to dislike! And is shameless in her claims of advocating for women. Yikes!

[@kpatters78]

LOVE Runkle. Runkle and Emily are the best things that came out of this case for me

[@marywhite107]

She sure didn't advocate for me and I'm a DV survivor.

[@pninja1]

Man. Camille brought receipts to all of her crosses and this was the tax statement.

[@dijonvolner6024]

@@NachoKitty I love listening to her speak.

[@sneakcret]

EMILY THANK YOU SO MUCH for covering this in such a safe and fair way. Before discovering you I was getting info from socials and the sense of extreme panic and toxicity it instilled was unreal. We are all so grateful for you!!

[@darrenlewis8507]

I’ve come to your channel and this case very late and wanted to say, thank you for your commentary and when Ms Vasquez had finished I was expecting the court to stand and applaud! Sad to watch Mr Depp in pain in the background but his team were amazing.

[@bomberdils]

Its very strange to me that Amber is accusing all the witnesses to lie on the stand! As Gandalf said „The treacherous are ever distrustful“

[@lindseystein9676]

I don’t think it’s that weird. He’s one of the most famous actors in the world, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that people would want to curry favor with him.

[@judywinters8615]

putin and her are both psycopaths.....everyone must file for them or die.

[@PromisedJubilee]

Nailed it.

[@redelfshotthefood8213]

@@Hhaha888 narcisists get their shot in first to undermine any pointing out of their own tactics. Muddying the water, gaslighting, is one of their favourite tactics.

[@cleobinx]

@@lindseystein9676 so the police , the random airport guy, the tmz guy who could literally get sued , they just want Jd to like them ? If it was just people on his payroll or his best friends then I could see that , but that wasn’t the case here

[@ritastojanvic9344]

I don’t understand how Elaine could tell the jury how Johnny Depp was sitting there laughing at things she was saying, when Camille got up the second time- they were all sitting there laughing and smirking.

[@honourperiod]

Elaine is a no 1 gaslighter.

[@donnas.4072]

THERE IS NO PROOF that Johnny Depp was laughing at Elaine unless Elaine is a mind reader. That is Speculation.

[@noramero2955]

I mean he's like what three four feet away from the jurors they will be able to see if he smile or laughing this is crazy. Crap like this really makes me mad because this whole case Amber's team was like don't believe your eyes believe what I tell you, don't beneath the audio believe my interpretation of the how I was telling you. This case is a complete gas lighting s*** show. No wonder Johnny is an addict, dealing with the circus makes me want to drink or do drugs.

[@yorkiemom7858]

@@noramero2955 I seriously got a migraine today listening to Elaaaaaaine!

[@noramero2955]

@@yorkiemom7858 she was all over the place. I felt like she wanted to testify herself.

[@mr-matt13]

I'm surprised JD's team didnt quote AH saying "I wrote the OpEd because Johnny was a powerful man". I thought this admission was huge and would've been a massive point for their closing argument.

[@mademoisellemh]

YES!!

[@CG-up2uf]

Agreed. Major missed opportunity because that was the whole premise for the suit.

[@Somber39]

Because she has to prove “ Malice” to win a defamation case.

[@nsco9605]

Someone on Law and Crime said Judge doesn’t allow quoting JD or AH’s testimony in court as evidence in closing, so it was off limits.

[@Rae777]

She didn't quote it but she referenced it.

[@Reiner_Miller]

Thank you Emily D. Baker! Your coverage was the most informative, entertaining and friendly of all "law channels".

[@viviiixo]

I didn’t think I would be this sad that it’s basically over. 6 weeks of being fully invested and also falling in love with his team. They will be missed!

[@alaia-awakened]

I agree! I kinda want to see Ben Chew & Camille Vasquez rocking their next case. I love their dynamic

[@viviiixo]

@@alaia-awakened omg yess so do I!

[@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468]

I bet like every other person in Johnny’s life-he keeps in contact with them.

[@viviiixo]

@@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468 oh I bet!

[@chelcece7975]

what a weird ass thing to say 😐 "fell in love with his team" obsessive

[@imjustanasshlesometimes3488]

Emily-- you talking about your ADHD is what made me pursue testing for myself. Yesterday was the first day on medication...and honestly, I finally feel validated/understood. I'll be 36 next week, but better than never. Thank you for being so open about it. My symptoms got significantly worse the past few months... so I'm just relieved. I feel like I got my life back, only a better version. Thank you.

[@penelopefp]

I was diagnosed in my 40s. Lots to grieve. But now I work in special education and it is my super power. I love that we can all unite here and be heard and valued!!

[@goteamgocrestwoodreddevils1482]

I was in my early 40's when I finally got diagnosed and started on the very tabu medication Adderall but it was as if someone turned on a light switch! Welcome to your new life ❤️

[@LatinaLatina1011]

@@goteamgocrestwoodreddevils1482 do you feel like you can focus more taking the medication

[@penelopefp]

@@goteamgocrestwoodreddevils1482 I drescribed my first dose of Adderall as feeling like a ship that had forever been at sea that finally dropped anchor in a calm, quiet cove. I could stop, look around, and peacefully focus on my surroundings. To those that say it is addictive, if that is true why do I have to set an alarm on my phone to remind me to take it? 🤣

[@ClearandHealthyBoundaries]

Her story and owning her differnece has me wanting to finally explore my belief that I have Bipolar disorder. I thank her.

[@cori7209]

Most memorable moment from the trial? Mine was for sure the TMZ guy clapping back at Elaine. "I could say the same for you taking on Amber Heard as a client." She was not expecting that and it was hilarious!!

[@amelzon1]

Yea that moment was amazing 🤩

[@yorkiemom7858]

That was my favorite comment from a witness! 🤣🤣🤣

[@elinorlee1539]

That was good but How about when the objected to their own question❓

[@cori7209]

@@elinorlee1539 or when Camille objected to Elaine and said a few things then "unintelligible"😂😂

[@amelzon1]

@@elinorlee1539 it’s just…it reminds me of being screamed at whilst just trying to have some fun in a multiplayer game. Her defense is so hateful and full of scorn, much like her, and it’s just. It’s triggering and telling.

[@WingS1403]

Throughout this trial, JD has reminded me of my Dad. The good, and the ugly side of him. My Dad was a 'lousy drunk' I guess you could say. When he was drunk he would curse and yell in our presence, be rather obnoxious, pee himself, pass out on the floor, he probably even slammed the kitchen cabinets. He certainly broke some dishes while fumbling around trying to make a snack for himself in that state. But never once did he raise a hand to me or my brothers. I have never been afraid of him. Disgusted? Sure. But most of all, especially now that I'm an adult, I feel sorry for him. An outsider could look at my childhood and say that being subject to that from my father was some form of abuse, but I know that it would be a huge leap, and gross exaggeration, to declare myself a victim of abuse and write in a newspaper about it. Everyone's experience is different of course, maybe Amber was afraid of him in that state. But I seriously doubt it. It's pitiful more than anything

[@marcjames3487]

Thanks Sarah, I had a similar upbringing. Dad could turn me to stone with an angry glare but he never ever raised a hand to us. Grown up now I can realise the pressure he was under and symapthise.

[@alwayslernin4400]

Sarah, a big difference is that you were a child, unable to just leave. Also, the video of him slamming the cabinets shows he is more like your dad. As mad as he was, he neither hit her nor threatened to. He also even gave her the phone back after catching her.

[@Cherrysmith2809]

This. In a nutshell.

[@5aarah1]

Same girl same

[@verael4327]

You should not have tis pictures as a child. There is a difference here. I feel that Amber with her provocative behaviour and she was not a weak person at all, was bringing out in Johnny a bad behaviour. Not abusive towards her but anger, frustration. She was pushing him too much. And the addicted person go deeper with her addictions when they do not feel good. He married too quickly a woman, he was in love with and finally she was an obnoxious person, like how we see her and dislike her. I think she generally does not like men and she uses them.

[@marshaanderson2677]

My husband is an attorney so I was really interested in this case from a legal perspective. I am so glad I found your channel. You were great!

[@darrenjcampbell]

Rottenborn tried to suggest Amber’s friends were still her friends when Rocky herself testified that they aren’t.

[@B_Bodziak]

I thought none of them have stayed in touch with her and their depos were all from the UK hearing -- not one gave a current deposition

[@marywhite107]

Rottenborn is delusional as his client.

[@michellerobinson5061]

The thought crossed my mind that Rocky and AH are actually still friends, but Rocky testified she's not so her testimony would interpreted as more credible.

[@Cherrysmith2809]

I thought he suggested that they testified to abuse DESPITE not being friends anymore, which made their testimony more believable.

[@B_Bodziak]

@@Cherrysmith2809 That's my takeaway, as well, because my first thought was the depositions were all from 2019 and early 2020.

[@cjaneAlaska]

I appreciate you staying positive and discouraging the mean girl behaviors that so often crop up on the internet. Your channel is a breath of fresh air

[@christyhoffman]

You can definitely see Johnny's genuine appreciation for all the people Camille listed that testified on his behalf. It looks like he says "Wow" under his breath and continues to blink as if he's keeping back tears. ❤

[@kitty6720]

Well, Rottenborn's notes have proven, imho: their closing arguments have been messed up by their own client: AH & her last minute additions. This has only proven the lack of trust in her lawyers not because they're bad, but because she's so controlling and must always have the last word, even if it's not in her favour, and she doesn't understand it.

[@Cleffa168]

I've heard some think that the part where Rottenborn said and I am paraphrasing, that no matter how many photos and evidence it's still not enough is affecting them to sway back to supporting AH. And at least imo, this is so easy to debunk. Just show photos of Rihanna. That's actual bruises and swell. But if you show photos but the next day shows up completely perfect with no bruises nothing? C'mon it's not about how many photos, it's the inconsistency.

[@razsaddiq4]

Completely agree with this!! She was smirking and writing notes during the closing arguments and when Rottenborn, stepped up.....she did that trademark "fake sad face". I really pray that Johnny Depp wins. He should get 100million dollars in my opinion....but I think the jury might award him with a dollar (because he would rather clear his name rather than get money)

[@kitty6720]

@@Cleffa168 So he admitted that the inconsistency in her photos was not in her favour. That's interesting. He's a good lawyer. I think he was the best on her team, and Eliane undone a lot of good groundwork that he'd built up, especially in the closing arguments.

[@kitty6720]

@@razsaddiq4 I agree. Like some of the lawyer commentators here on KZbin pointed out: that the jury should award JD $7mil, as a poetic justice. But all we can do now is wait.

[@Jessica_Crease87]

Exactly! That's what her little post it's are! She has to say something to everything!

[@jodib4875]

Regardless of the verdict at least the world now knows how disgusting of a human being she truly is.

[@savannahmolina277]

Yes. She is hated by most of the world

[@ageofechochambers9469]

#24:56 that face says it all . Diabolical

[@sconiRider]

Jmo, I think that is all Depp wanted out of this. From the start his case was tough and I dont doubt his dream team of lawyers pointed that out. Just seemed like he didnt care if all his dirty laundry was aired as long as Heards did too

[@Subllama]

i hope Johnny wins. he deserves the peace of mind and the money he has lost from being cut off from huge deals.

[@bethmccracken8192]

@@savannahmolina277 I’m worried about her baby, she’s so unstable

[@theoff-dutytherapist5189]

I think it's awesome how all of us novice Law Nerds--with differing specialities and life experiences- have come together and added value and perspective to the case as we watched it unfold. From therapists to medical professionals, DV survivors, and IT specialists. What a community!

[@SelfAwareOne]

I’ve not been a “law nerd”, but rather a mental health professional, “psych nerd” interested in the psychology behind the crimes of Jodi Arias and Chris Watts; criminal cases. I’m not a “star follower”; knew nothing about this case; knew nothing of their relationship, and AH is a complete unknown to me. Given this was a civil trial, with the plaintiff and defendant taking the witness stand, it was interesting to watch the two being questioned, and fascinating to watch AH, clearly exhibiting an Axis II personality disorder. I looked to YT after the Watts case, and have been completely disappointed in what I’ve found.....a “Crama” community, until now. It was wonderful to tune into your channel, w Facts, not Fuckery. Thank you for the professionalism, your brilliant commentary, and breadth of knowledge. What a pleasure to watch you. You deserve the growing subscriber count. Will continue to follow you with interest, and who knows....I may turn into a novice “law nerd”! Enjoy the fruits of your labor!

[@pamthetraveler7224]

Have you watched videos on The Behavior Panel you tube channel? So fascinating. I had to learn body language in negotiation training. Watching and learning from them is amazing.

[@samanthaorologio6866]

This was a joy to read. And fascinating as well. Thank you for taking the time to type it out so I could have the privilege, as a rando, to see it and take it in.

[@butterbringer]

Check out JCS - Criminal Psychology. He in depth and in real time breaks down the interviews and psychological strategies to get a confession and why (he has done Chris watts and Jodi with several others too)

[@elizabethscrivner6891]

I am a therapist as well. I enjoyed watching using a psychological lense. I bribe Mr. Depp will win and this will forever change people choosing to do defamation cases. This is life changing to future cases.

[@SelfAwareOne]

@@pamthetraveler7224 I recently subscribed, and will tune in. Thank you.

[@kimbaker4352]

I laughed so hard when Elaine said that Amber couldn’t pay her donations because she was sued and had to pay $6 million dollars in lawyers fees. I was like wow hope she didn’t pledge those fees otherwise your f-ked.

[@HappyKat-wc4ld]

😂😂

[@marahmodina6729]

😂😂

[@lizburgessmb]

Wow I wish Camille had asked this question!

[@jilllyons96]

She didn’t pay anything. If you watch Popcorned Planets video, he told of how her homeowners insurance is paying for her lawyers. She paid nothing.

[@kimbaker4352]

@JL No I didn’t catch that video but I really like his channel, I didn’t even know that was a thing, homeowners paying for lawyer fees.

[@GoddessShazza711]

The whole time these arguments have been going on Johnny has been sitting and rocking back and forth in his chair. At times trying to keep his eyes hidden. At times you can catch a glimpse and read the pain in his eyes. He has been rocking solidly for over 30 min. Poor Johnny. This is a typical action for survivors of abuse who are remembering/reliving their abuse. My heart goes out to him.

[@RooseyGirl]

The rocking back and forth is a way of trying to self soothing 💔

[@yasd9367]

Agreed it is a self soothing motion.

[@BabyKangaroo279]

I'm sure he's having a little trauma reliving from his last trial. Most of the evidence were in his favor. It was most unfortunate because the judge who chose to discredit him due to his drug abuse was in AH's and The Sun's pocket so it was ultimately a losing battle.

[@RS-or8sh]

I noticed that. I found it painful to watch . Just says it all. A human inate reaction.

[@rize-ikuza]

Even after she repeatedly claimed she never smirked, snickered nor laughed during court she continues to smirk and look at the jury during camilles closing argument. Is she trying to gain their approval or is she just mocking them at this point

[@anonymouse9833]

I think she just can’t help herself, it’s her personality

[@rize-ikuza]

@@anonymouse9833 yikes

[@pcatMe]

she's mocking Camille, I think, and agree that she can't stop herself.

[@dijonvolner6024]

I don't think Amber realises what she herself is doing half of the time

[@Amanda-uc5jq]

One of her personalities didn’t laugh and mock it was another one and that’s why the first one believes she didn’t do it.

[@mf5514]

Rottenborn by name, Rotten Born by nature. His arguments is why I dislike this circus. Being nasty and misquoting comments and basically lying is not appealing. Camille owned them all with her calm calculated murder of them all while being realistic and nice.

[@ItsFitzy78]

His closing argument was all spinning of the facts, terrible! I really hope the jury see through that.

[@mindygooding9458]

I agree, I couldn’t even follow him after he was half done and Elaine about made my ears bleed!!!

[@RedstonerD]

Do remember that it's much easier to be a lawyer when your client has the facts on their side. Team Heard is also just doing their job.

[@xino_z]

I'm sure the Amber who retained him isn't the same Amber he's dealing with now. I hope all of her lawyers get therapy after all of those post-its. Imagine your client handing you 6 post-its before closing. Lord!

[@Mmax389]

Why isn’t he brought up before the board for these tactics.

[@ltldxy71]

Totally agree, Emily. Elaine came off (once again) as yelling, preaching, and teaching. She was totally rushing and frantically trying to spew out as much as possible. Nothing the defense said seemed based in facts, again. Meanwhile, JDs team spelled it out very clearly and based it in timelines and facts.

[@PromisedJubilee]

Totally agree.

[@Memi-cp4yc]

Insane to watch... Like a manic episode. Drunk girl at the party.

[@lauraelliott7441]

It's got to be hard to argue powerfully for your client when you've got bupkis to work with! Would Elaine have looked more competent if she had been representing Johnny?

[@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468]

I had to mute it. Elaine gave me massive anxiety. I think if I was on that jury, I would have panicked not being able to get away from it

[@B_Bodziak]

@@lauraelliott7441 NO. She would not have done better. Just the sheer number of objections that didn't go in her favor shows this and it's almost unheard of to have multiple objecting in a closing -- AND she was the only one who had them. I have a feeling she settles most of her cases out of court -- That will likely change as opposing attys will now know how bumbling she is and will be up to taking her to task

[@victoriaselz9720]

It does seem a bit disappointing the older female juror got dismissed. I thought based on descriptions of her shaking her head and being very attentive during the medical/IPV testimony that she might have a background in social work or nursing/medicine and could potentially have argued strongly for Depp. :( Also a 3-4 gender divide just would have been more balanced than 2-5.

[@BodaciousCake]

The judge said they picked the numbers of the jurors that would be dismissed before the trial began, but…. You never know.

[@mauvehawaii]

sat through so many hours and got dismissed just like that. what a waste of time.

[@livingfree7153]

I think men will see through Amber. 🙏🏻

[@theprati26]

I think they want more men because they would not know much about make up first of all. Like my boyfriend knows what a concealer is but he does not know steps or the order in color correcting. Like she tripped while on the stand while describing covering her bruise.

[@aword3213]

@@livingfree7153 Men acutally have more sympathy towards women. Men are hardwired to be hostile towards other men.

[@TaraZsun]

you can see Depp rocking in his chair. Thats a total sign of anxiety. He did it often when intense things were said about what happened. Looks to me like hes got ptsd himself.

[@BabyKangaroo279]

Noticed that, too. I could feel his anxiety through the screen.

[@elenaalejandra1372]

Yeah, it's a self-soothing thing, it was so upsetting to see.

[@wendyclemente9026]

Right?… and there goes amber smirking looking like an vile human being. I really hope everyone is seeing that.

[@Cartoonvidoe_Au]

I totally agree xxxxx

[@yasd9367]

He probably does. That is a typical self soothing gesture especially for abused people and those suffering from depression

[@Hayzelle]

“Runkle has tweeted, my voice has yeeted.” Emily’s got bars. 🤣

[@connieerickson5193]

Ohhhhh... @J. 1 ‘s got bars (about Emily’s bars)! …heeeey!

[@Theblondone1994]

The text messages JD claims he did not write showed they were incoming texts. Was that an error on the defense and if so why didn’t JD’s counsel bring that up?

[@xidane]

Maybe thats no jd phone and it just shown incoming from other prospective.someone said its a group chat.

[@FabiolaRVela]

@@xidane I wish they clarified that, cause it just makes them look slimy and Like they don’t know what they’re doing

[@SouthFloridaThrifter]

Going back and watching streams I missed from "lawtubers" I didn't know I loved until after the trial. Rewatching EDB has been nothing short of fabulous. Now, rewatching Camille's rebuttal there's no way the jury should have found actual malice in Adam Waldman s statements. I wholeheartedly believe this was a compromise for a single juror. I wonder if they'll ever speak.

[@lorry696]

👍 agreed

[@NNSSS11]

Me too!! 100% agree!

[@Mindyobiz-fy7ef]

Don’t forget the evidence of the 2nd 911 call never made it in. We don’t know why. It could have been from that, which means the jury paid close attention to the evidence.

[@kendallneason3645]

@@Mindyobiz-fy7efI agree.

[@nightsgrow6575]

I agree, it’s very annoying that they found him liable for that one.

[@400_billion_suns]

The irony of an “Amber Alert” interrupting the entire courtroom is just too hilarious for me to process 🤣

[@ckyung1312]

Ikr!

[@stephaniegentryart]

Lmao “Amber Alert” nice one

[@Nani.101]

If nothing else could convince the jury that something's wrong with Amber, THAT should have 😂

[@FabiolaRVela]

Me too , I’m still laughing about this. What are the chances 😆

[@400_billion_suns]

@@Nani.101 lol, seriously! It's like the universe itself intervened with its own final testimony. 😆

[@brandycarr5378]

I didn’t know about alternates until I ended up in a trial. We felt so bad for those two people that were not able to talk until after judgement.

[@seqkatwinn2766]

Emily, my daughter put me on to you, when I started watching this trial, as I've been watching this case between Johnny and AH for years. I've so enjoyed following you, and enjoyed your commentary, and most of all your real connection with us. Thank you, so much for all of that. Your TedTalk popped up in my feed, and I watched it. Thaaank you. I'm touched with tears. I've struggled with the societal conditioning in my mind for years, and have really just been taking a break the past few months to figure out what I really want. I've pushed against the conditioning in actions, but still in my mind the conditioning haunted me, and had me so mixed up. Thank you for your guidance. It's so helpful. You're a lovely inspiration! 😻💚

[@scarlettleake4462]

I’m a bit sad this is over 😭 like one commenter said, it’s like you watched an entire series on Netflix and now it’s over!Emily’s coverage of this trial has been phenomenal! I’ll miss it!! ♥️😭

[@orlalolo4585]

her coverage of this trial was amazing

[@jordandavis4950]

So many iconic moments 😭

[@jessicacolgrave4082]

I’m a former band and theatre geek, it almost feels like a production is ending and I’m not gonna have hours long daily hang outs with everyone anymore :(

[@nomdeplume2213]

ikr... i might restart back at day one and see what all i missed in the moment. i bet more inaccuracies will stand out. might be fun just to see how many we can put together whilst we await verdict.

[@marychocolatefairy]

I know, this trial was unexpectedly entertaining, haha. Let's hope it has a happy ending! And possibly a sequel, too, with Johnny getting his life back together. I wonder if we'll get interviews with the legal teams also?

[@hypergravy]

I usually don’t comment on social media, but I started to follow your KZbin channel and I’m fascinated with your commentary in the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard trial. I wasn’t a fan of Johnny Depp but I’m a fan now with his road of redemption. I always wanted to be a lawyer but English being my second language I found it difficult when I was in college. Keep up the good work!!!

[@robertwirth8459]

I am not on anyone’s team. I want the truth and I am a law nerd. That’s why I’ve watched your channel throughout this case. I hope that the jury decides on the real evidence and the real experts. As a member of the public viewing this case it is my opinion that Amber Heard is the abuser and she has BPD.

[@VallerieMalkin]

Fair comment - imo though Depp's lawyers were brilliant at building a narrative. They do this in politics - and it sticks - and that's imo what happened here. I find it quite tragic (and I'm a Depp fan and don't like Heard BUT I believe her.)

[@robertwirth8459]

​@@VallerieMalkin I'm not a fan of anyone actually. I based my opinion on the evidence (documents, sound and video recordings, witness statements, testimony) and the expert evidence by professionals as presented in court. I hope that Amber Heard realises that she has BPD and seeks professional treatment.

[@jessbawa4531]

@@VallerieMalkin all due respect, she literally admitted to hitting him in the audio. Her claim that he’s god almighty powerful is BS, when she’s got Elon musk paying her lawyer fees. Her team presented doctored photos. I believe she did experience verbal abuse, but not even close to the extent she claims, and there’s literally no evidence he was physically abusive towards her. She perjured herself multiple times…her own testimonies contradicted itself…her sisters testimony wasn’t consistent with her testimony. What’s there to believe?

[@jessbawa4531]

@@lilxsweet her cackling gave me goosebumps too, I can’t listen to that shiz again….it’s triggering for me too and I could barely understand what she was even saying, but it was maniacal

[@shaychaney5630]

@@VallerieMalkin I’m not trying to be disrespectful in any way with this comment but you believe AH? Imo if JD had abused AH then there would be so many medical records and photos of her face being mangled to support her claims but there wasn’t. The photos she produced could have been created with her “bruise kit”. But that’s just my thoughts on it, The evidence supports Johnny’s case and I think Amber was the abuser in this situation.

[@thatshottaye]

Amber not clapping for the court stenographer says it all...

[@griffinmathers929]

Agree. She was the only one not clapping, iirc.

[@bellaamie4386]

I don't think she even knows who Judy is..

[@Delfina24]

I think Amber didn't even know that Judy was a human being.

[@cmay7429]

From the jury standpoint - who would ever guess that, as a normal person living in Virginia, you'd be deciding the fate of a mega Hollywood movie star. Life is crazy.

[@jlseagull2.060]

It is all because of Washington Post, headquartered in VA.

[@BanesBasement]

Xavier copy-pasted what you said word for word and it's top comment, sorry C May

[@cmay7429]

@@BanesBasement Lol. Ah well. Lets hope my life has higher goals than having a top KZbin comment. Nice to know, at least, my sentiment is appreciated.

[@briannaward292]

Elaine’s face is like, “… man that’s a lot of smart words… I wonder what they all mean… well if I don’t know, the jury won’t know so they’ll side with me cuz they’ll feel dumb… yeah. I got this….”

[@karenmoss1605]

Let’s manifest a big win for Johnny!!

[@vicestrada3937]

🤲🙏👍👍👍🤞🤞🤞😔😌🤲

[@suzyq5629]

Emily Baker I too suffer from ADHD and I lost it when Elaine started her rebuttal🤣 I was totally shut down, I couldn’t even …YOU are so great at breaking it all down so we can understand. This trial has been wonderful to watch with your commentary. I learned so much. Thank you for all you do. I too love milk duds and popcorn, I’m going to have to try that❤️

[@80Ragincajun]

After this, Marry Poppins ( Elaine). Should be able to afford a better haircut than the ole I have been wearing a ball cap on my head look. lmao 😂😂😂😂

[@dixiechic46]

😂😂OR A WIG😂😂

[@brandypowell8157]

For years we would say “Dang, Gina” instead of damnit when my kids were little. Now I vote we change it to “Damnit Elaaaiiinnneee!!!!” 😂😂

[@ltldxy71]

I support that!

[@jenj-d4v]

Yes 🤣 !!!

[@alaia-awakened]

Sustained

[@liltaufi310]

🤣 i agree!

[@MissSimone02]

You must-have watched Martin 😂😂😂 was my dad's favorite show lol

[@aimeeburch8329]

I wonder how the jury members will feel once they are done with this and start to see and hear about all of the stuff that we know about. like the Australia tapes.

[@johnhimes8660]

I have been watching you throughout the last week of the trial and I really appreciate not only your breakdowns and reactions of the court coverage but just the atmosphere that your chat community brings. Despite this being a very serious trial I have loved every moment of your coverage. Your a rockstar in the lawtube community.

[@larmondoflairallen4705]

I am going to miss Camille's daily eviscerations of A-Turd when this trial is over.

[@ladyeowyn42]

Better re watch potential than game of thrones lol

[@lesran]

I've watched that and the cross of the mad scientist Amber Heard "expert" several times. Both are entertaining.

[@lindahall1083]

I thought the closing arguments for AH was stronger that I thought it would be. But what keeps coming back to me are the recordings of her taunting JD. If you're abused, you do whatever you can to AVOID the explosive outbursts. Am I right?? Plus, didn't they drink/do drugs together. And she asked him to bring a joint with him. Enabling? Or at least not being consistent enough for someone who needs to turn around. (One more thing.) Her personality must be so much like his mom's when he was growing up. That alone would drive him to drugs and alcohol.

[@devilscandy7208]

She did nothing to help Johnny get sober she did drugs the whole time she was with him. I’m pretty sure she did drugs at either their wedding or bachelorette party?? I can’t remember

[@madeniquevanwyk]

To me the audio recordings are the strongest evidence against her. Her defense made some good points and I don't think Johnny is a saint to live with, but the trial hasn't convinced me to overlook her tone and wording in those recordings. I cannot believe she was scared of him for as long as I live. A member of my family was also in an abusive relationship and, while being physically abused, she blew off steam by ranting to uss and calling him names. Doesn't make it right in a healthy relationship, but if you look at them through the lens of her actions, I'd say I understand his texts etc. If I was Vasquez I would have mentioned that instead of saying he uses colorful language, which seems like she's trying to minimize how bad the texts are. But yeah - the recordings remain my biggest proof that she's been lying nonstop.

[@lindahall1083]

And if she loses work, it's because of her own doings, The blowup on social media against her isn't JDs fault.

[@joeyalfano2096]

Honestly.. Rottenborn was good. Elaine was a disaster.

[@sigheyeroll]

@@madeniquevanwyk This!! I'm not going to pretend what Johnny Depp texted wasn't vile, but in the context of him as the victim, it makes sense to me. I've seen plenty of victims write awful things they've wanted to do to their abuser even years after they've escaped the abuse. The idea of venting to a friend this way is not that far fetched.

[@alentia_thegreat]

What do I do with my life now? I have been watching you most days for the past 3 weeks! Thank you so much for all of your amazing commentary. :)

[@petersdotter1]

Brought back to my memory by "Psychology in Seattle," when he is in shock and completely debilitated, lying on the floor from losing part off his finger, what does she do? She stubs a cigarette out in his check. Instead of helping him, she uses his defenseless, helpless, completely vulnerable state as an opportunity to abuse him more. I wish that had been brought out more. Also, she later pretends HE put a cigarette out on HER face, but he has a wound, seen by a physician. She does not.

[@Sana-jb5zu]

I didn’t even realise how messed up it was until Dr Honda pointed it out!! Do you remember if either of them had done mdma that night? Or just amber saying he did ? You can barely feel negative emotions on it! If he did any that night I can’t even imagine the shock with experiencing that and not being able to feel hurt :/ or worse if she had, being capable of that level of violence while ‘happy’

[@cleobinx]

@@Sana-jb5zu she claimed he had popped a “handful like 10 “ MDMA pills. Which would have killed anyone. This is why her “hysteria” has really back fired on her . Everything she is says is SO extreme and SO unbelievable

[@shj7346]

As Camille names each of the witnesses who testified in his favor or otherwise came forward with their true account of events and I feel like I can see Depp's face, his eyes, showing that he's thinking of each of those people as they're named and I see a sadness there - more than that, though, I feel like I see genuine gratitude towards each of them. Depp is a weirdo with his own problems, but he's also a true creative and treats everyone with dignity in a way I rarely see from a public figure. Greeting and thanking the court staff and officers, looking each of them right in the eye. Even on the last day, he shook the hand of everyone who was involved, even going fairly out of his path in order to do so. And seeing the love he received from people coming out to support him heal him bit by bit was remarkable. Some life returned to his eyes and face after he received that love. I hope he can find some peace in his life and return to creating the legacy he leaves behind as he mentioned.

[@CML95018]

"Her story is a moving target, it never stays the same" Camille

[@thekitowl]

Bang on 👍

[@tarascott8270]

Loving You and Runkle after talk!! Thanks for all the commentary Emily.

[@sailorallie9046]

I could never be a lawyer bc I wouldn’t be able to listen to rottenborn incorrectly quoting me, I’d be standing up shouting “not what I said!!”

[@servant1351]

The attorney sitting on AH’s right side at the table literally spent most of the day hiding his face in shame. He abhors her.

[@user-bh8qm1wm4f]

He looks at what she writes and never seems impressed. I think she’s writing gibberish just to not listen