Why are we so interested in the Titanic & 9/11?

[@itzamia]

Icons being destroyed with a massive loss of life will always draw attention and interest.

[@matthew01234]

The truest example of this was the Hindenburg disaster. Very low death count especially compared to Titanic and 9/11 but look at all the media coverage it got. It was such a big deal that it killed the zeppelin aircruise industry. Back then people thought by the 50's everyone would be taking smaller scale luxury cruises in the sky just like they do on the water. After the Hindenburg disaster everyone just stopped investing in advancing airship technology altogether. I sometimes wonder where the airship industry would be if it has continued to have 80 years worth of investment and technological advancement and evolution.

[@itzamia]

@@matthew01234 Air travel could've been more common if that tragedy didn't. By more common, I mean people could take a cheap blimp ride from one side of town to the other, or from one town that is located 20-30 minutes from another. With the way blimps were designed, it was inevitable that was going to happen at some point. But common transportation by air would've been interesting.

[@matthew01234]

@@itzamia Initially airships weren't really meant specifically for travel so to speak. They are slow. There's no denying that. Cruise ships are slow too tho. No one hops on a cruise ship anymore for travel. They get on the ship for the cruise itself. The cruise is the destination. That was the view for airships/zeppelins/now called blimps back then. A more intimate closer setting but a cruise in the sky so to speak. No doubt there is no way they could ever be as luxurious as ships on the water but I would love to know how luxurious they would be if technology hadn't frozen in time in that industry over 80 years ago. 80 years is a long time to make something better. Make no mistake about it. They stopped advancing specifically because of the Hindenburg. The airship cruise industry died that day. I wonder what it would be like if that didn't happen.

[@PYROWORKSTV]

+ conspiracy theories. 9/11 being an inside job and the sinking of the Titanic being insurance fraud.

[@dcnascarboy0514]

Just like the death of Dale Earnhardt, regardless if you were a NASCAR fan or not, you knew who he was after his death.

[@brendandahl8606]

The movie, “Ghosts of the Abyss”, has James Cameron and Bill Paxton on a Titanic expedition during late August into early September 2001. James was down at the wreck site during 9/11. Hearing about the disaster from Bill after the dive was shocking and devastating.

[@ir8free]

Actor Danni Nucci had roles in both the disaster films _Titanic_ and _WTC_ . NYC was the destination of the RMS _Titanic_ .

[@briannaw716]

This is so true because im a titanic and 9/11 geek...I can watch videos all day on both

[@rhythmiknoise]

Chileeee lol that part

[@GrimLock0027]

Bruh same, wth

[@briannaw716]

I think what's similar is the fact that you have ppl trapped in a situation where some ppl survive and some didn't survive. Both were on a time limit. Titanic was 2 hrs and 20 min. North tower was one hour 45 min and south was less than 59 min before the collapse. So time definitely played a factor into who was living and who wasn't and it also depended on where you were located. For titanic if you were deeper into the ship u had a less chance of survival. With the wtc it depended on if you were in the impact zone or above.

[@ir8free]

Corrections: Titanic lasted 2 h 40 min (11:40p-2:20a) after collision. 1WTC lasted 1 h 42 min (8:46a-10:28a) after impact.

[@goldcanyon340.]

well said.

[@Joebidenwithdreads]

In the north tower (the plane hit between the 93rd and 99th floors) if you were above the 92nd floor you weren't gonna survive, in the south tower if you were above the 78th floor you weren't gonna survive ( the second plane hit between the 78th and 84th floors), however in the south tower since United 175's impact was to an angle this meant that one stairwell was intact, but still 600 people were trapped above the point of impact but this type of impact also meant that the south tower was gonna fall in a faster timespan. In the north tower, the collapse happened because jetfuel burned the steel and although it didint melt, it surely does soften, the jetfuel burned vigorously until the steel could no longer support the weight of the upper floors of the north tower, the upper floors weighed about 38,000 tons, which is equivalent to the titanic weight. I'm unsure about the collapse of the south tower. It's a good thing the planes didin't hit down low because more people would have been trapped and that would mean the towers would halve collapsed faster due to the larger weight.

[@ian4040]

We're captivated by innocent people dying, because it could have been us. People going about their day and suddenly they're vaporized by a jet crashing into them or they're falling 100 stories to their death. 9/11 was arguably the most traumatic day in our nation's history. It left a mark on anyone old enough to remember it. I was 20 when it happened and it felt like a nightmare.

[@HettyTheHunsskelper]

It left a mark on myself and I'm not even American 😢

[@1mlb704]

I'm not as intrigued by the Titanic, but 9/11 has always been interesting to me. I think that's partially because the twin towers in general I find fascinating, I would love to see some kind of documentary just on the construction and history of them. And I, like most people here, remember that day and everything that happened after. Being 7 years old at the time the whole thing was so confusing, and the older I got the more I understood it and empathized for everyone affected by it.

[@jeffgrubin1874]

There are some documentaries available on KZbin about construction of the Twin Towers. Just do a search. After watching them I've understood more about why collapse was inevitable when they were hit by the planes. It wasn't so much the plane impact. It was the severe intensity of the fire that weakened the steel and floor trusses. I've also been looking up a lot of individual people who died in the attacks and reading their obituaries. Just so heartbreaking. Many good people are gone, and I feel for the families of the victims who miss their loved ones every day.

[@claudiawallace4265]

Same here

[@mrandrossguy9871]

Bruh there’s Hundreds of videos or just Go to a Physical Library to research the WTC itself! Yeah guess I did the same thing just unfortunately it’s the stupid tragedy and loss that gets you interested in it,.. which kinda defeats the purpose of being interested in it right ?

[@mcteethinator]

I think also the scale of the disaster means there's so many individual stories of survivors and victims you can learn about. They're both pretty deep wells of melodrama.

[@AluminumOxide]

one major difference is that during Titanic, that disaster wasn't captured on camera, versus 9-11 was

[@sjcflawless]

For some reason, 9/11 videos resurfaced on my recommended. one click led to another and here I am. I look back when it happened like it was yesterday. I didn’t process the shear destruction until later in life. Now, I look at each one of the 9/11 videos that we never saw until KZbin. It’s unthinkable to imagine what went down that day. I guess that’s what gets my attention to 9/11. Me just trying to cope with the reality of what really happened that day. God! RIP those affected! God bless the family and friends of those who lost loved ones!

[@BMM44KalmarHufflepuff]

In my view, the reason why the destruction of the Twin Towers (WTC) and the sinking of the Titanic hold so much fascination and fixation among the general public is because of how similar they are, the scale in which the tragedies unfolded, and how both tragedies shocked and greatly bewildered the conscious of the public at the time: Both were essentially deemed to be invulnerable and unsinkable, they were new and revolutionary architectural and engineering marvels at the time, but yet ended up going down in disaster.

[@retrogameraaron4778]

I've only been to NYC twice in my life (both times pre-9/11). During my second visit in November 2000, I got to go up to the observation deck at the top of the south tower.

[@mafia_gamer_official30973]

That's 100% true. I am both fan of facts about Titanic and WTC. Well, from their loss we have learned a lot to not make the same mistakes. Titanic's loss brought us modern navigation systems for the ships and loss of WTC brought us durable modern buildings with the newest systems against any attack. Also, both of them brought us full survelliance over everything and be ready any time. Like strict laws in airports and newest laws for security of the planes etc.

[@Sonny_V]

I think a lot of it is the "How the Hell can this Happen?" Factor

[@TheRealPSKilla502]

Similar thing with the space shuttle Challenger, especially for high school students in the 80s

[@Andrew-bd8dc]

I find this channel absolutely fascinating. I scrolled through your videos to see a big mix between football and 9/11.

[@TOA5T-fg1tw]

My Aunt always brought up a story around September 11th about how her late husband, who was in college in the mid 60s, had an assignment where they came up with a terrorist attack scenario. Apparently he came up with a highjacked plane crashing into a building. When he told the professor about his idea, the professor thought that something like that would never happen and would be foolish to do. I always thought that the story was interesting and a bit Erie as it supposedly took place before the Taliban took power and the WTC was even built.

[@ir8free]

haunting and ominous story! btw, (Lake) Erie or eerie?

[@michlo3393]

Not an unheard-of idea. After all, Kamikazes existed and there was an attempted hijacking of a FedEx plane where the would-be hijacker intended to deliberately crash the plane in the company's headquarters. Those are just two examples.

[@Dedicated2WendyWilliams]

devastation & loss usually sells & reaps the mind... something thats not here on earth anymore, the mind tends to wonder and ask a million questions cause we truly miss it.

[@ubaldoa.rosario1832]

The Titanic disaster was a mourning event they lasted a few months up to a year in New York. Both events shocked the world and brought safety measures to law. Both events brought stories heroism, mythic storytelling, stories of loss, political discussions, and both were socially impactful. And both had lots of rich people inside and celebrities of their time who near missed the catastrophes that fascinated the public eye.

[@kevinkearns7719]

While the circumstances were different, they actually are very similar for a few reasons like massive loss of life, no one saw it coming, it was a day like any other etc. But I think one of the biggest is that the stories are ever fascinating. Mundane decisions that people made that day led to life or death. Also, stories of heroes and villains.

[@nicktallfox5266]

I think the length of time played a crucial role in why both incidents became iconic. In both cases, there was more than an hour of time for drama and various survivorship stories to unfold while the structure around the people fighting for their live slowly unraveled and with enough people surviving to tell those stories afterwards. It makes them feel like disaster movies played out in real life. If both WTC and Titanic were destroyed instantly, it would be no less tragic, but certainly less viscerally dramatic. Also it helps that these incidents happened to wealthy westerners and their stuff. Plenty of ships sunk with greater loss of life than the Titanic but none have been remembered as it was. Hell even DG forgot about the MV Sewol disaster when trying to come up with modern ships rolling over and that happened only a decade ago and with hunderds of childern lost too.

[@Braka54]

I was fascinated by the titanic tragedy in 2020 but i lost interest now, currently im all 9/11, im surprised to see im not the only one who was interested in these two alot

[@oufukubinta]

Dude ever since I've known about both I've been entirely obsessed with both. I actually watched 9/11 live but I'm equally as fascinated with the Titanic as I am with the twin towers

[@Infinite-void908]

Same honestly. I even visited a Titanic artifact exhibition in Orlando, Florida and I also went to New York City last summer and visited the 9/11 memorial.

[@oufukubinta]

@@Infinite-void908 I've also been to both lol

[@carlospalencia3032]

I remember at the fountains there was an unborn child among the names of the deceased. That still gets to me man. Never forget 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

[@willhemmings]

Both events tell stories that have a beginning, a middle and an end; humanly relatable but still enormous, with the powerful dramatic themes of entrapment and suspense. The horror of both is compounded by the incongruous backdrop of normality - a clear blue sky and a dead calm sea. Both events now have the quality of modern day myths. The biggest difference is that the Titanic disaster wasn't an accident - it could have been avoided. The twin tower strikes are difficult to isolate in a direct causal sense, so their irrationality is truly horrifying at an existential level. Here is another example - the collapse of the Tay Bridge with a train carrying seventy passengers during a storm in 1878 also gripped the public consciousness for many years

[@michlo3393]

9/11 is still recent. There are survivors of the attacks who aren't just still alive, but still in their primes and still working. If you were 23 and working right out of college on 9/11 at one of the tenants in the towers, you'd still be almost 20 years from retirement TODAY. It's living history. But 20+ years is starting to change our perspective of the attacks from the vivid reality we remember of that day to a less accurate portrayal of the events by younger and younger folks. Shit like "people didn't jump, they fell" or bullshit stories about some dude climbing down 20 floors on the outside. Yeah, okay...But that's what happens. Recollections of the Titanic disaster went the same way. Stories became more fantastical and wild. The difference is we have audio, visual, and photographic record of 9/11.

[@lenatraceroxton1363]

I think some people say "they didn't jump, they fell" because it takes away the agency they had and it's easier to digest than having to think that someone would completely willingly choose to throw themselves from a 100th story window. Although we don't know what it was like up there so I think it is possible that there was so much smoke and people were so disoriented that in trying to find their way around they did actually just trip and fall, which is terrifying but not as terrifying (I think) as someone being fully cognizant of what they were doing and choosing to do it anyway. And if you look at the footage (if you can stomach it) you can see that a lot of people clearly knew what they were doing and did it anyway.

[@bigcatscorner]

5:58 collappppsssinnngggaaahhh lol Love your vids man and the DG voice is iconic!!!

[@davinp]

TItanic was a brand new ship when she sank and is one of the deadliest sinking during peace time as it happened before World War I. TItanic was built with the lastest safety & technology of her time

[@SimsZan]

I always been interested in those firefighter stories that day

[@YoboyLandon999]

I’m interested in both too

[@FingerGamers3]

i’ve always had an obsession with both of them, for me i think what it is is that i like to imagine what it would had been like if i was in both of those situations. How scary and terrifying it would had been. Along with how they both came to be. With titanic, i imagine what it would had been like to run around the ship looking for safety and praying i can make it onto a lifeboat. If not than how i would fight to stay alive as long as i can, how terrifying it would had been to been on the ship as it sinks and breaks apart. For 9/11 i just think how i would react or feel if i was on one of the planes or in the top floors of the towers, probably feeling helpless knowing there’s not much i’d be able to do and praying for a miracle only to meet my end. Or even to be in the streets of New York or in DC running in fear.

[@UrbanPorcupine]

The Hindenburg seems like it would have been a more natural comparison to the Titanic given that they were both engineering marvels of the time. It's interesting that there seems to be so much more interest in the Titanic and 9/11. Maybe because those incidents were drawn out and you can picture the human experience of being there vs the Hindenburg which happened really fast.

[@jerradmechals1]

Dr. judy Wood "Where did the towers go?" Was an interesting read

[@brianwolf9647]

My trifecta includes these 2 tragedies as well as the Japanese Tsunami in 2011. Seeing videos of that level of destruction is very interesting. Massive amounts of water. The worse tsunami prior to that doesn’t have as much video coverage.

[@elliswoodall407]

I'm still fascinated to this day.

[@Gabriel_Rojas_Arena]

As a 21 year old I'm still into Titanic

[@davinp]

After the TItanic disaster, several safety laws were passed: 1) Enough lifeboats for all passengers; 2) Mandatory lifeboat drills and 3) Wireless must be left on all night

[@CivilProfessional]

one other similarity is they both had music (or muzak for the wtc) during their destruction

[@bickleyjonas6145]

For 9/11, it was the biggest loophole in the history of humanity. That's why. It was something nobody could predict, but after it happened, seemed so obvious and destined to happen.

[@BigDee_1996]

Mental I always connect these two events together

[@davinp]

Before 9/11, security was lax at airports nationwide. Security was tightened after 9/11. Before you could meet loved ones at gates and didn't have to arrive at the airport over 2 hours early.

[@freakyfornash]

Which was one big reason why I stopped flying, with the humiliating, degrading security procedures you suddenly had to deal with from that point on. That and when they made me take my shoes off the last time I flew (which then exposed my real height in public, while forcing me to rush to the bathroom to wash my hands right afterwards), which I couldn't dare have again too!

[@davinp]

@@freakyfornash I can understand why some people don't like to fly because all of the security that you have to go

[@freakyfornash]

@@davinp Hell yeah, and tell me about it too!

[@canadianmtb_8275]

I remember my dad watching it on news when he was getting me ready for school when I was younger

[@commodorezero]

As a maritime historian Titanic is a unicorn and theres lots of reasons for it's enduring popularity. Biggest ship sinking on it's maiden voyage with celebritys onboard that sank due to a bunch of highly unusual circumstances. The fact it took over 2 hours to sink in the middle of the night is also a big deal with the Lusitanias quick violent sinking being the main thing holding it back from acheiving Titanics popularity IMHO. Another thing is fondness for the pre WW1 world that ended soon after Titanic with the sinking becoming a symbol of sorts for that whole time period. .

[@bL3dbL4k]

You're right. That's interesting. I was fascinated with the Titanic growing up. Still am I suppose. But the main difference in these 2 events.. Is that one was an accident and one was intentional. If someone hijacked the Titanic and crashed it. Then these 2 would be nearly identical. With that said, 9/11 was far worse for a number of reasons.. terrorist attack vs accident.. being captured on camera.. the amount of deaths.. the way the people died..

[@TIMEPPF]

I would add Columbine, JFK assassination, OJ murders, just the amount of information and pictures and video, also that most of these are within our lifetimes, there is so much to absorb, so many theories.

[@LucyKosaki]

I think it may be because there's rarely an event, where there's this much loss of life on a concentrated spot. There's many wars and natural disasters with hundreds and thousands of times more deaths, but it's rarely all in just a single building complex or a single ship. Also these two disasters happening both to one of the largest man-made structures at that time. If we would nowadays build one of the largest space stations, rockets, underground shelters ect. and this thing being this inzanely big project hosting thousands of people and something terrible happening to it, I'm sure it would also be one of the disasters, that people would remember and be fascinated by.

[@KevinJGamez]

They are both immense tragedies nobody predicted and are part of the world culture

[@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536]

Because going out in a disaster like those is everyone's worst nightmare.

[@ShogunResu]

When I see the news articles for September 11th that say "Hijacked Jets Destroy Twin Towers and Pentagon" it's like impossible to me that two skyscrapers can be just wiped out and all it took was planes hitting two giant buildings? In my mind I thought it would take a wrecking ball but a plane???

[@seshwondo376]

A wrecking ball doesn’t have 10,000 gallons of jet fuel turning the buildings into matchboxes though

[@iceberggslim22]

I will never forget 9/11. I was working at a retailer in Pentagon City right near the Pentagon and our building shook when the airplane hit it. We evacuated the building and the sky was filled with black smoke. It took my coworker and myself 2 hours to get to S.E. Washington, D.C. which is a 15 minute drive

[@feverdreame529]

I think 9/11 is a fascination with number of us because most of us were alive during the time and witnessed it live. We watched horror unfold in front of us. 😢

[@EvanEscher]

One reason why I'm interested in 9/11 is because I was only 4 years old at the time, but my parents didn't tell me about, so I didn't find out about it until a few years later. I can vividly recall visiting ground zero around 2004, and there was still just a giant pile of rubble. I wonder if my parents had told me about it when it happened if my opinions on the event would be any different today. I have friends my age who remember watching the events unfold live on TV that morning, but we didn't really watch TV much as a family growing up.

[@ir8free]

wait, didn't cleanup end in May 2002?

[@mkoury83]

Dude, please buy the book by Dr. Judy Wood, “Where Did the Towers Go?” and give us your review/thoughts. It is the only forensic investigation based on purely empirical evidence on 9/11 available in the public domain. It was paradigm changing for me… I’d love to hear your thoughts on it.

[@carealoo744]

I think it has a lot to do with how even though a lot of people perished and it's a terrible loss, they are all relatively small in scale, only taking place over a couple hours and only affecting a few thousand people, vs something like the World Wars or the Pandemic that were on a global scale and just kept going on and on forever.

[@eduardoperez8734]

It's the people lost in those buildings and a sinking boat they need be more remembered

[@kadenrobinson7067]

I mean for me the titanic was very interesting not because of how beautiful the ship looked it was about the sinking and how exactly it went down

[@ArcanePath360]

I don't think people are interested in disasters per se, in the traditional sense. I believe people realize that something unique and historic happened, totally out of the norm, that was shocking and horrifying, and they need to be witnessed and understood and come to terms with. It's like learning lessons from them, or just respecting that this could happen to you at any moment and there's nothing you can do about it. It also makes you feel lucky that it didn't.

[@MetraTitanicWTC]

So I’m not the only one that’s super interested in these two. Nice

[@casey2173]

Dude, idea for a Halloween costume, captain negligence

[@darrelladams4188]

Thank you Mr Ginger…. I clicked on the video…. gone to listen Alan Jackson “ Where were you ? “.

[@rbsk999]

Both events just tragically captured our imagination. Simple as that.

[@FR4NKM4N]

Best video you've ever put out.

[@jennyfurr]

Not to mention they were both completely destroyed within a couple of hours

[@davinp]

Where TItanic sank, maybe 1 or 2 hours ahead of Eastern Time

[@TheLavanderTown]

With tall building being demolished in major cities what i hear it is done like legos

[@davepane7306]

You were always into The Titanic, and you make videos of Twin Towers yet you don't know this fact: Titanic (largest ship (also a twin))= Took 5 years to build Took 2 hours 40 minutes to sink Twin Towers (largest buildings (also twins))= Took 5 years to build Took 2 hours 40 minutes to destroy.

[@kinderscoasters]

Me to a T. Ever since I was a little boy. I’m 31 now. You should see all of my drawings as a kid.. 90% titanic & twin towers.

[@NicholasOlivafes]

My boy just read my minds💀

[@ciennaso]

Can you share a video of your thoughts on the 9/11 conspiracies ?

[@ale5punk]

Have you ever talked about Sneha Phillips?

[@ryanfagen8248]

I always compared 9/11 with Pearl Harbor.

[@JAED5]

We answered our questions 💀

[@davinp]

When the towers collapsed allot of dust and other materials fell. If the building had asbestos, that would have gone out in the air

[@backroom12]

Gotta throw the shuttle disasters in there too

[@rbsk999]

5:20 do some research, that's Olympic, and since when did Titanic arrive at Halifax?

[@idxstudios]

If 911 happened today with cell phones being able to record the event..the scenario would have not had so many unanswered question

[@briannaw716]

I think wtc was more catastrophic because more ppl died and it was how they died too. But atst titanic ppl had a more painful slower death cuz they froze in icy sea while still conscious. Idk to me they both were terrible.

[@Plasmonix666]

9/11 definitely killed it

[@davinp]

I don't know why I am obcessed with Titanic

[@Plasmonix666]

I should carry those tower's in my hand and throw them in a different location, away from the USA

[@andiewade5502]

Why didn't you

[@Plasmonix666]

Because I would need muscle strength to do so

[@josephfraser3501]

It's just like that columbine thing people mainly focus on that event but other school shootings is nothing

[@KevinJGamez]

Yea, can you do 9/11 conspiracy video ? I’m not a believer but would love to hear your comment on it

[@mrandrossguy9871]

10:40 “always interested in Titanic” like Flooded areas 😳 Bruh so you’re just morbidly interested in Shocking destruction And not the Thing itself like THE SHIP ? Or THE BUILDINGS Themselves?

[@TurboMan942]

I think it is because women found Jack to be dreamy and Rose was a hottie. I still don't know why she couldn't have scooted over on that float she was on. Do you think she realized that she would have always been poor in a life with Jack? His art was good, but that wasn't going to pay for the country club lifestyle she demanded.

[@ctron2388]

🤨jack and rose weren’t real people. And he tried but they both couldn’t get on.

[@isaachoward8766]

What about the 3ed big one we all think about Chernobyl

[@bilux-ph4ss]

No they both had to do with New York

[@andiewade5502]

Yall are my people

[@Damon_Drawings]

Personally, I think the titanic is more horrifying because on titanic, there is no place to go once the entire ship is gone you’re in the water surviving. The ship is one thing, but surviving the water is another thing

[@ctron2388]

Now just imo I think 911 is worse but that it is also because of actual footage which makes it so horrible imagine if we saw the exact screams to silence in the ocean when titanic was sinking and people fighting over the only 16 lifeboats

[@octavioesquivel7738]

You missed to add the chernobyl disaster LOL

[@sanben86]

big structures getting destroyed

[@jasper1949]

The titanic has many ice warnings before the shipwreck happen,9/11 there was no warning Infact it was out of the clear blue sky..,

[@pattaccone]

People seem to be programmed to be interested in terrible events !

[@briannaw716]

Its ironic that titanic was traveling to NY where the wtc was born...lol

[@spingleboygle]

i dont know ginger i dont know

[@v90660]

What on earth is the picture of 3:51

[@rbsk999]

I think it was one of the proposals to replace the towers. Thank fook that project didn't get picked.

[@FreelacerxD]

Titanic , 9/11 & Nordstream

[@stevenmaginnis1965]

1:48 That's a picture of Shanksville, Pennsylvania. That had nothing to do with the World Trade Center; United Flight 93 was headed for Washington.

[@pashby3]

Both insurance jobs..

[@KryptonianChaos1]

Because 911 wasn't supposed to happen in this timeline. The Star Trek temporal police know it

[@elliotberube5510]

9/11 controlled démolition

[@VilldoesOfficial]

0:11 olympic