Der Eisendrache Best High Round Strategy Guide - Black Ops 3 Zombies

Hope This Helps!
Few Extra's
Dogs - Every 7-13 Rounds
Panzer - Every 5-6 Rounds
100 Time - 4 Hours
SPH - Camping, 8 - 9
2 AAT HR, 10 - 11
3 AAT HR, 9 - 10
Safe rounds:
1-112, 116-121, 123, 126, 127, 131, 135, 137-139, 141, 143, 145, 148, 152, 154, 162+
(After Round 112 the Storm Bow starts making Torso Zombies, you can still camp these rounds but it will be a little bit more difficult)
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What's SPH?
Seconds Per Hoard, is used to calculate the average time it takes to kill a hoard of zombies (24 Zombies), therefore determines the speed of a strategy.
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[@sulky118]

If anyone has never used the Electric Cherry Strat before, I would probably recommend only using Deadwire with spikes to get used to the strategy and then when you get more comfortable with it you can start incorporating more AAT's

[@Baggal]

Whats an AAT? :x

[@sulky118]

Alternate Ammo Types (like Blast Furnace, Dead wire etc.)

[@simplem1187]

Ist this strat faster than Stamin Up Strat?

[@thezombiepl4ys829]

@@sulky118 which is faster church or power room

[@thezombiepl4ys829]

@@sulky118 when u camp in the power room u get no carpenters so I think the power is faster

[@captain_squiddy]

This game is 5 years old and it still holds up today. So much fun

[@double5338]

I think 15 years from now people will be asking for a 20 year anniversary remaster of this game. The engine was smooth and the map design was fantastic. This very well could be Treyarchs finest hour in gaming.

[@captain_squiddy]

Double Я yeah my friends hate bo3 but I honestly think it’s my favorite call of duty. Graphically, mp gameplay, content updates, zombies I loved it!

[@nesto9889]

Ye

[@LastGenRichtofenn]

Zombies only. Campaign and mp were trash.

[@nesto9889]

@@LastGenRichtofenn mp wasn't very bad

[@HandpickedHypixel]

i think ive found a new favorite channel when it comes to high round guides. not only are you super descriptive you also have insanely efficient strategies

[@fadingfates110]

Great strategy, seems a lot more engaging/reliable than camping the Wunderspheres as well. Looking forward to trying it out.

[@dani_danielin7527]

Zombies on 2020❤️

[@mugiwara9058]

Dani_Danielin me watching for my high around attempt lmfao

[@18Dari18]

play with me on pc

[@annalenaliebtchrystalmetth6115]

2021

[@nesto9889]

2021

[@ldeverglobal1]

2021❤❤❤

[@RetroShineGaming]

Thanks legend. I have gotten round 100 on 6/14 maps referencing your guides! I’m not as good so I end up training eventually but these vids speed everything up tremendously

[@cofiddle]

YES. love it! seriously, i cant get enough of these for some reason lmao

[@peeps2265]

Ahh, Bo3 zombies. Absolute nostalgia! Loved the video 👍

[@claymoregang2979]

My highest round ever is 71, this man gets to round infinity on every map. I have so much to learn

[@sulky118]

Just to confirm, for the purpose of these videos i just skip most of the rounds just to showcase the strategy. However i imagine with a bit of practice you for sure can get round 100 with this

[@claymoregang2979]

sulky118 Oh Heck yeah

[@JAEDYN-ON-TIKTOK]

I learned by training. Bo3 was the first zombies i actually invested my time in. I used to beg to be carried to round 50. Now a year later "from when i got into zombies" i can get high rounds on any map. My first was round 115 on the giant. I used the rk5 deadwire spawn training strat, it taught me a lot. All you have to learn is gaps, muscle memory, and knowing your movement. If you want to learn on DE i recommend training by the death ray. Use hvk deadwire, and use the wolf bow. Its also good to lean away from widows wine because it can become a failsafe.

[@rowanthomas6428]

Haha, that's good compared to mine, mine is 42 on the giant camping catwalk lol.

[@SirDonald]

You can at least reach round 100 with just the storm bow and alchemical antithesis while camping on the lower stairs of the clock tower.

[@imensse1353]

ima drop that sub just because you still giving tips and playing bo3 zombies mad respect ✊

[@73oik22]

Hey, I really LOVE your strats for these maps, I find this to be way more enjoyable than training in the death-ray area but I still can't get past 60 since I've died on round 59 twice now😖 . I feel like more I play it, the better understanding I get of the strat. Nevertheless I'm getting really bored of Der Eisen, so I'm gonna try your Zetsubou one next! Thanks a lot!

[@killwillv2610]

I cannot believe I didn't think of this strategy. I camp next to the HVK. This is much better! I'll be on this strategy soon

[@zirrbiik9092]

finally someone posted this strat. thank you so much!! wish me luck

[@sulky118]

Good luck!

[@MeGa_x_hypperz]

Love this bro defo. Going to try this

[@SheaSpeXtre]

I’ve used a similar strat but with a few minor differences like using the drakon instead of the brecci and I got to round 100 flawless. This is the best strat on yt I’ve seen good work my man

[@aetheronez]

You awesome man :’)! Thanks for the strats :3

[@braydencampo2444]

sulky is a legend for not only making these vids but also making it to round 100+

[@itzrezxyyy]

This deserves millions of views!!

[@elrusolokooooo]

So glad BO3 zombies community is still alive. Imo, best zombies so far. Keep it up, and looking forward to getting Cold War guides from you? 👍

[@sulky118]

If course!

[@mateusfochi3827]

Great video bro, I was looking for new strats and you helped me a lot thx

[@bloodaxe1986]

I have to say that this video is actually class and im deffo trying this soon

[@MJ-ct4kg]

Awesome vid man 👍

[@3ae407]

you jus earned a new sub❤️

[@redanassim]

appreciate your videos bro

[@AfaaqDarkorbitOwnedYou]

Your shadows of evil high round startet help me a lot . I am just sbout to Try this on now

[@ChrosiveNovaChrono]

I needed this! I used to always stand near the random perk machine and always die on round 75 due to no ammo or the panzer. I’m gonna try this tomorrow thanks a lot bro and keep it up!

[@Vk-jk8uq]

Does it work well?

[@ChrosiveNovaChrono]

@@Vk-jk8uq yeah works great. Make sure you got alchemical and cache back

[@nomaan_malik]

Bro your insane, I’ve never made it past round 70 on any map, but this strat is giving me hope

[@jakesnussbuster3565]

There are so many maps where 70+ is free in under 2 hours

[@joejack1452]

I think I saw couple people on Twitch Doing this anyways keep up the great work man (:

[@sulky118]

Yeah i dont actually know who the founder of this strat was

[@joejack1452]

sulky118 best part is you don’t need widows wine cuz that was annoying asf to get from the wundergizz machine

[@liamffor5657]

Good to see your back are you gonna do chronicles!

[@sulky118]

Yepp, im doing every bo3 map in order of release. So chronicles after dlc 4

[@playlist-master7382]

This was a very good video.

[@AndrewJPlays]

Hey man I just started learning bo3 zombies a month ago. Im got to wave 108 with this strat last night! Thanks! Ill see you in the comment section of origins next!

[@sulky118]

Congrats!

[@braydenshetrompf8764]

Btw y’all here are the safe rounds for all the bows except wolf, during broken rounds all bows except wolf will create torso zombies which are insta kill, I think they all start making torsos at 112, but it is only one torso here and there, so they are still effective. You will die camping with lightning during broken rounds, and the fire torsos stand still so it is easy to kill them. As for wolf, the broken rounds haven’t been tested, but it is safe after 162. During a broken round wolf creates invisible zombies, a max of 3, even if u kill a whole hoard with it, the zombies count as dead, so they’ll charge ur rags, give u points, give u drops, and if end of round, will round change. The zombies disappear after a second, and you can reshoot to kill them. Safe rounds where the bows are effective: Lightning: Safe rounds: Lightning 1-112, 116-121, 123, 126-127, 131-135, 137-139, 141, 143, 148, 152, 154, 162+ Fire and void: 1-120, 122, 124-126, 128, 130-132, 134-136, 142, 145-149, 151, 155-161. Fire creates torso for the rest of the game after 162, and void breaks after 162. Wolf broken rounds start at 113 I believe, I tested it every round in a 130 match, excluding dog rounds, and got it at 17. The first broken round was 113, and excluding the dog round at 127, the only safe round from 113-130 was 128.

[@smokeybear5460]

I'm on round 89 now just training the zombies and using blast furnace with the KRM, this is taking FOREVER but it's gotten me this far lol.

[@Flurh]

I love how you say Electric Cherry

[@momo_11o9]

sick strats :)

[@Plooby842]

If you want quick revive I would recommend swapping mule kick for it and keep double tap and just get the lightning bow and a dead wire HVK as it is close and it is better for killing the panzer than the M8A7 and just use this for as long as you want until you get to the point where you want to swap out your bow where you should get a dead wire M8 and then a turned HVK and do the electric cherry strat

[@Plooby842]

Double tap is pretty much essential for this as it is extremely hard to kill the panzer without double tap and you should also get the panzer helmet so you can kill it easier

[@Technogamer2]

now i can pass round 10 thank you :)

[@willyywonkaa]

just used your strat to get round 100 first try thx bro

[@gui_grg]

I do almost the same strat, but yours is better so ty bro !

[@ilkerer5898]

Hey

[@deiback6100]

This is a mind fuck. A blast from the past thanks I needed this.

[@Ray115-]

Nice strat!

[@liquify4835]

bro, thank you so much.

[@Tokyo-re7fo]

Dude I got top 300 and got to round 150 with this, great work

[@Assassinboy8084fun]

This man didn’t build the shield till round 19 what a pro lmao

[@unknown97690]

Great video

[@littleratboye]

Can you do a video on all the different AAT’s like all their timings and why you use some of them and what they’re best for ?

[@sulky118]

I would if the game was still slightly new but I don't feel like it would help that many people now

[@war4260]

Nice video ❤️❤️❤️

[@lewfewnew6581]

It’s 2023 and these strats are still very good

[@darkestoath666]

2021 still my favorite map of all time

[@SheevPalps868]

I'd say I'm a good zombies player. I've completed all the easter eggs and I have round 45+ for pretty much every map. My highest for Der Eisen is 58 but I got that like 3 years ago so I'm gonna go for that round 100.

[@liljaeo5892]

I’m going to try this I’ll definitely make it to first 100 but Idk about the other strategy’s they look hard 😂

[@aamirm99]

Thanks homie

[@Hefestohgm]

Wonderful video, non torso rounds are rounds that you can use the bow?

[@sulky118]

Yeah, you can still use the bow on torso rounds but it's a little harder

[@johanlundgren2212]

Came to round 103 first try👍🏼 then I quit the game i was so tired thx for showing this

[@jelly_is_thicc4872]

Watching this in 2021, thanks bro lol I’m just getting around to trying for high rounds

[@jelly_is_thicc4872]

Update: I’m trying again but last time I got to round 97 I’m shooting fir 100 this time!

[@papastiles]

Oh how we've missed you sulky

[@dailydoseofcringe5171]

Imagine that camping spot with opothicant servant

[@jhflytm9330]

I'll try this today

[@aaroncraig1957]

Great vid

[@munen343]

This is a ridiculously good strat but the fastest strat I've found is training by double tap where you put the slab for the keeper step in the ee. I keep both doors closed, krm with blast furnace or turned, hvk with fire works, kuda with dead wire. I'm probably going to go for a round 100 speed run wr with this strat.

[@sulky118]

Yeah that area is fastest while camping with the bow, however this cherry strategy is faster than training there

[@munen343]

@3XTR3M3 Its pretty much the cherry strat but with training involved.

[@Eski813]

Love it goated strat

[@jacobketley1374]

Something I found extremely helpful, when the zombies start to overrun the stairs a little because the storm goes into the wall/stairs, shoot the spot sulky mentioned (the wall above the usual spot), then shoot into the gap between the two pillars as you’re looking down the staircase. The wall shot holds them off and 90% of the time gets them all, but it’s hard to get the next shot at the bottom because they’re all crowded up in front of you, so shooting through the little gap on the right as you’re looking down the stairs really helps to stop the congestion 👍🏻 Really helpful video by the way mate. Doing it for the first time now and only on 57, but I never usually play for really high rounds and this has inspired me to see how far I get 😊

[@pariahfnm3365]

Using this strategy today. This game jus has a hold on me😂

[@rodrigofoli]

Great video. How exactly do you use Alchemical Anthetesis? Do you buy gobblegum every round so the next on the rotation can be Alchemical?

[@vatrix_1988]

That is what I do, once I've got my AA, I will end the current gobblegum cycle so it's gonna take me less longer to get anotther one!

[@rodrigofoli]

@@vatrix_1988 Thanks

[@sulky118]

Yeah like Vatrix said. It's also a un written rule that if you only have 1 AA left you hit a new cycle until you're 2/5 then wait till you have used your last AA and start hitting again

[@rodrigofoli]

@@sulky118 nice tip, thanks to both of you

[@EternalGruntSetsu]

Do you know a way to figure out which is your mule kick weapon ? Since the 3rd weapon sometimes gets swapped after going down or using Pack-a-Punch.

[@doublej1616]

nice guide

[@sulky118]

Appreciate it man! 💙

[@luketalkme]

How often does the panzer spawn? Loving the content!

[@sulky118]

5-6 rounds, I always include information like this in the description 👍🏻

[@diegoprado3545]

I got round 82 because I didn't have any ammo :v Great strat!

[@sulky118]

GG

[@dabigdaddyfish7696]

Hey Sulky, would you still recommend camping with the Lightning Bow at the stairs when doing a No AAT run or would camping at StaminUp be better? Thanks!

[@sulky118]

Probably stamin up. In order to be efficient with ammo I would use my lightning bow to fill gravity spikes. Then slam all the zombies to save ammo and just before it goes away, I'd clear a path to the death ray to help preserve ammo even further and hit the death ray then head by to power and use the bow once the trap finishes. Rinse and repeat

[@icedgamers8222]

Vesper is better with turned it shoots faster so burst it and turned activates every time inless there’s already a turned zombie

[@TheLiveSquad]

can’t believe this was the last call of duty zombie game

[@Realbtw]

wow this hepled a lot cuz i reached round 124 thx

[@connordenns]

i love cold war zombies but i couldn’t help but come back to play this game in 2021

[@sulky118]

No one can blame you

[@olih6641]

Same

[@connordenns]

@@sulky118 Lol bo3 is a better game and more enjoyable

[@adamellis1077]

What gobblegums would you recommend

[@hazmatt8006]

Can you do a coop strategy for this map

[@alexisestrada3352]

yoooooo this dude is crazy

[@itzrezxyyy]

What about training the zombies in the church area and use kuda deadwire and blast furnace hvk? Ik Steve(zombies KZbinr)

[@xqyxq]

Hey I’m kinda new to zombies. I watched all ur high round strategy vids and I just have a couple questions. I recently made it to rounds 40 with about 3 downs and all of them were bc of the panzer, does the storm bow consistently trap the panzar in the storm or do I just have to get lucky? I notice the panzar doesn’t always get stuck in the storm. I pretty much don’t struggle against the zombies it’s just the panzar that’s a pain in the ass. If the panzer gets stuck with the storm I normally kill Him easily by shooting the core. What’s the best way to kill the panzer before rounds 40 ?Great vids btw, always drop a like 👍

[@sulky118]

Appreciate your support on my vids😁 I noticed the first time the panzer runs into the storm it seems to trap him everytime and after that it seems random, idk if there's any specific way to trap him everytime. But I'd just recommend taking him to the death ray everytime he spawns, killing him in the church is just a time save that isn't really necessary

[@xqyxq]

@@sulky118 appreciate the reply! I actually found a spot that’s directly on the other side of the debris u don’t open in the church. It allows me to run to the death ray at the start of every panzer round, and then I just simply gravity spike my way back to the spot after I kill panzer. I still mostly die in the early rounds bc I am still new and don’t quite understand the movement yet. One question tho, will I have enough time to sprint to the death ray and back from the church spot, before any zombies or panzer spawn ?

[@sulky118]

Yeah I believe I show it in the video, you have to start sprinting to the death ray as soon as the round ends though

[@xqyxq]

@@sulky118 appreciate it, thanks 🙏

[@xqyxq]

@@sulky118 Made it to round 56, which is the first time I ever made it to a round over 50! Unfortunately out of all the zombies that got trapped in the storm from my lighting bow, one managed to not get stuck and hit me till I died. Idk if that was just unlucky on my part but I guess it’s not bad to make it to round 56 for a beginner eh.

[@jjbarjaa3912]

Thank you dude ,one question ..can u tell me ur graphic card and processor?

[@sulky118]

i7 8700k and 1080ti

[@Ghauntlys]

My highest on DE is round 113. I was doing the hvk room strat. Since this strat doesn’t use the lightning bow, is it even worth it to build it or did you still build the lightning bow? Also thanks!!

[@sulky118]

Yeah you can still use the lighting bow here, I show it in the vid

[@ThedoubleD5150]

Good to note, gobblegums are a bit of luck but they actually run in 5 gobblegum cycles. It’s just randomized for every cycle. Example you can pull GG 1,2,3,4,5-5,4,3,2,1-2,4,3,1,5. Basically what I’m saying is you can strategize your gobblegums and keep track of what’s next.

[@ramiellogarius4936]

What about the panzer any tips? BTW thanks a lot for your strategies

[@sulky118]

Panzer is very straight forward when using the death ray, if I was to say anything I'd say to make sure your shooting him in his fusion core for max ammo (although I think I mention that in the vid)

[@ethanhill3621]

Hey Sulky, why should I use fireworks instead of dead wire on the m8A7

[@sulky118]

When you're camping fireworks speeds up the game a lot

[@Off-BrandEdition]

You’re so good 😭😭

[@Off-BrandEdition]

Can you make a video on just tips for achieving high Rnd strategy’s ? I’m good at zombies but when it comes to the higher rnds like 50+ i struggle a lot more

[@hoyy5816]

You're not good if you can't reach round 50. I'm just above average and can get round 50 on a few maps

[@Xenixy_]

Will it work if I use dead wire on the m8a1 instead of fireworks

[@lucaswunderskirchner5762]

Whats the best duo strat?

[@vnoahhv4339]

Do you have any tips when it comes to how to properly use mule kick? I always have issues with cycling my weapons and mess up quite a bit

[@sulky118]

Yeah, always have your weapons in a certain order. So for me I have had wonder weapon 1st (I swap out for my starting weapon) then dead wire 2nd and Turned 3rd, that way If I go down I always lose my least important weapon. If you tell yourself this is your order from now on (on any map) you'll soon get it down 😁

[@vnoahhv4339]

@@sulky118 oh okay thanks! I honestly think my main issue is that I’m used to using only two weapons and I tend to double tap y/triangle way too much. And obviously with mule kick it doesn’t bring me back to my original weapon and instead it goes to the third one.

[@toaneyforester5851]

Have u tried camping in knights room but don’t open the gate connecting samanthas room and knights room? Round 100 pretty quick by just staying there with lightning bow and dg4’s and there’s a gum ball machine right there as well, for alchemical and the death ray to the right for panzers as well. It flies by the rounds sooo quick. Edit: packed KRM does more to panzers than the packed brecci if ur shooting the power core in the chest

[@sulky118]

Yeah I think per shot the KRM does more damage but the brecci's fire rate kills him quicker, and only problem with that strategy is you can't run the HR Strat because you gotta open the door at the top of the stairs but yeah the rounds are really fast there. Alternatively you could then also camp at the DT Perk outside spawn and that's even faster

[@toaneyforester5851]

sulky118 yeah I’ve tried camping there where u don’t open the 750 first door on the right, and don’t open the next 1000 gate at krm spawn, and u get there by dropping down from the 500 wooden debris where void arrow is, but the only problem is, u can’t get out to get shield, whereas the knights room strat is fast, u don’t need to spam lightning bow because u just shoot in front of you and it gets the zombie spawn windows from left, right, top left and straight ahead (the only windows they spawn which is why it’s pretty fast). Cuz there’s a small hallway wher the zombies run at u and u just shoot in front of u and all the zombies gets trapped in the lightning, and u put the dg4’s right before the hvk wall buy and ur untouchable. The thing is, the things u need for high rounds in this map Is alchemical, shield location access, death ray for panzers. Knights room has a gum ball machine 5 meters in front of u, death ray to the left of u, and shield downstairs. (And a hvk wall buy on the pillar opposite gum ball machine there if u rlly want I guess) Edit: ur videoes r on point and I’m a new subscriber :) good zombies content rigjt here

[@sulky118]

Yeah you're right, the void bow area is kinda a high risk low reward spot compared to camping power

[@toaneyforester5851]

@3XTR3M3 did u not see sulky agree with me 😂 fuckin idiot

[@rise9489]

Sorry I’m quite a noob, but how do you usually go about getting gobblegums during these strategies? Or do you usually not even need to get new ones?

[@sulky118]

With this strategy at the end of the round you have time to run up the m8 staircase towards power and hit that gumball machine. If you're slightly late you can always just shoot the bow down near the gumball machine for safety

[@rise9489]

sulky118 Thanks!

[@ethandornton355]

Could you do a round 1-50 setup guide on all maps?

[@sulky118]

I would but from doing them in the past ive learnt that not many people really care about them, but in cold war i probably will

[@ethandornton355]

sulky118 Thank you for doing it in Cold War, shame that no one else has watched them, with me at least I learn better by a 1-30 and on strategy guide, you’ll definitely have one person dedicated to watching and saving them, thanks man for everything you do!

[@goe8619]

do you think i should be Ragnaroking the zombies whenever they are like past half way up the stairs because my storm seems to follow them up the stairs and i think it glitches out and doesn't trap all the zombies because they start rushing me.

[@sulky118]

Yeah instead of placing the spikes you can just do like a storm bow/spikes combo. Kinda like how you would do spikes and Deadwire

[@itz_brandon2340]

I like this strat a lot but would it be worth swapping electric cherry for quick revive if your going for a round 100 or not

[@sulky118]

Yeah probably

[@itz_brandon2340]

sulky118 perfect thanks man

[@ryansoprano5858]

I do the Easter egg so I get the free perkaholic then do this strat. Very fun

[@goofyahhgaming3594]

This strat was definitely the best, my only problem was when i was on round 67 i think, i was doing it for the first time i got pushed up against the blue debris and was firing my storm bow but the storm literally disappeared every time i shot it and didnt kill any zombie in the save me situation, any ideas on what that was?

[@sulky118]

Yeah sometimes the bow either shoots on the other side of the debris or the storm will just drop off of the balcony and down to the church floor. I feel like the best thing to do in that situation is to try and shoot 1 storm at your feet but then just spam electric cherry and clear the way with aats and then properly shoot the bow either at the top of the stair to re gain control or at the bottom if your aats killed all the zombies upstairs

[@goofyahhgaming3594]

@@sulky118 ok thanks sulky

[@iyniri]

Does using 3 dead wire guns work or do u have to wait for the cool down from one gun to use it on another gun

[@sulky118]

Yeah they all share the same cooldown, that'd be pretty OP if it didn't haha

[@Exrahz]

top tier strat my guy but one thing the panzers are not playing around it’s not working 😂 but ever think else is perfect i’m not sure what’s up wit the panzers

[@sulky118]

Someone else recently just said this weirdly, you just got to make sure that you're shooting the panzers head or power core. You'll know you're doing it right if you get hit markers when shooting him

[@saudmubarak8324]

@@sulky118 nope . They buffed his health actually

[@leonseuropeanislandadventu7398]

So storm bow is good? I was using it before, but it stopped taking out entire hordes at around round 28. Am I just using it wrong? I'm kinda new to the map, so I'm still learning as much as I can.

[@sulky118]

Yeah it's pretty bad against full hoards, you mainly wanna use it to camp that way it's not having to deal with a full hoard ever cause it keeps killing them before the zombies build up

[@gabriel_talih]

what did you for the panzer rounds? Edit: I ended up hitting round 100 flawless using the krm for panzer, it is so much easier than the hvk.

[@sulky118]

Should be in the vid

[@gabriel_talih]

@@sulky118 Hey dude, thanks for the quick response. I also use the death ray strat with the hvk, but I meant to say what do you do when you can't kill him within the first use of the death ray? I usually try to train in the courtyard but getting back to the deathray and positioning myself to call it again, especially in games where I dont get monkeys from the second gondola, is a hassle. Do you have any tips on that? Thanks again g, and nice high round strat

[@sulky118]

Have you tried running a shotty?

[@gabriel_talih]

@@sulky118 Not yet, but I found the hvk so nice for insta kills though. Should I use the krm?

[@sulky118]

Yeah you'll find that way easier

[@dontqelo9308]

Can you make a two person guide?

[@ProudOne]

Tried this, then spammed the storm bow cause i saw a max ammo, forgot to pick it up to realize I don't have fast mags on my M8A7 which ultimately lead to my death