Derailleurs SUCK, this is the FUTURE

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Jordan Boostmaster

Jordan Boostmaster

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@JordanBoostmaster
@JordanBoostmaster Ай бұрын
This was a pretty sick bike! Check out the bike here! www.archibaldcycles.com/ And if you want to check out my new Merch check it out here! bit.ly/BoostmasterMerch
@bertusbob
@bertusbob Ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@TheDustyShredder
@TheDustyShredder 26 күн бұрын
This is one pricey frame for being steel. Idk if I want to spend $5k on the frame alone when I have the skill set to just build one with my own suspension system. It's a cool bike regardless, and probably worth it for some people. I'm just not one of those people.
@gundamnit3594
@gundamnit3594 Ай бұрын
Big derailleur isn't gonna be happy about this! Blink twice for us Jordan if you need help.
@KrissTheRider
@KrissTheRider Ай бұрын
Bruh uploaded just before i went to sleep cmon man do you want me to not get any sleep 😓
@WhiskeyRAHHHH
@WhiskeyRAHHHH Ай бұрын
No sleep for you😊
@ChatGPTeeh
@ChatGPTeeh 24 күн бұрын
Get your priorities right
@KrissTheRider
@KrissTheRider 24 күн бұрын
@@ChatGPTeeh haha 😹
@pnw_jordan
@pnw_jordan Ай бұрын
Cost is going to continue being the bottleneck on broad adoption of gearbox systems. For anyone in the top cost derailleur drivetrain market, gearbox should definitely be considered, though, especially on MTB. I’d much rather a gearbox than electronic shifting.
@CalgaryDynastar
@CalgaryDynastar Ай бұрын
I have had numerous mech drivetrains over the years and have been on axs all year and love it. No cable and housing to change, made zero adjustments since installing. My main riding buddy has 3 seasons on his and zero issues. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but personally I love the electronic drivetrain. I also paid 800 CAD for a brand new complete GX axs drivetrain (cranks, chain, cassette etc.) so it’s hard to go wrong.
@geemy9675
@geemy9675 Ай бұрын
agree but mid drive ebike, electronic (wired) shifting and integrated gearbox go very well together like in pinion MGU. it can fix most of the issues of both -middrive ebikes : better chain line/lower chain wear or belt, lower maintenance, easier cleaning. -gearboxes: pedalling under load with shifts that can be precisely timed, motors that can counter act the rider torque, weight and efficiency are not so much issues.
@mtb416
@mtb416 26 күн бұрын
Yes, the internal gearbox future is still very much “the future.”
@Mile-long-list
@Mile-long-list Ай бұрын
When Shimano finally releases theirs, it will become the standard 100%
@kitten-inside
@kitten-inside Ай бұрын
Let's just hope they don't use the same glue they did for Ultegra cranks.
@CHIEF_420
@CHIEF_420 Ай бұрын
🤘
@cunning-stunt
@cunning-stunt 11 күн бұрын
The shimano Alphine gearbox hub was used above the BB on the first couple of Zerode bikes well over a decade ago.
@cunning-stunt
@cunning-stunt 11 күн бұрын
@@kitten-inside Sram and Shimano won't do a gearbox anytime soon because gearbox drive trains will do too many miles/kms before they need replacement. Sram and Shimano want to keep selling you drive-trains and parts.
@noneofyourbusiness4294
@noneofyourbusiness4294 11 күн бұрын
​@@cunning-stuntto be fair, Shimano does have the Nexus and Alfine gearhubs, which last longer than most bikes they are installed on -as long you do the least to maintain them. Had an Alfine 8 hub on my previous ebike, which ran on a speedbox for about half it's live until the motor gave up. In numbers: 17,000km (a bit more than 10,000 miles), and now it runs in a customer's bike, as he needed one quickly, and I had no use for it. All I ever did to it was giving the internals a 3 minute oilbath, when I heard a grinding noise in 8th gear. That hub comes around at.. I guess $200-300. In my case, I ran a gates CDX belt, which still looks like it could go the same distance again, which overall costs the same as the hub. You can go cheaper with a chain. If you know how to switch sprockets on a gearhub, which isn't all that hard to do, you're looking at $15-25 every 2,000 miles or so. Granted: by far not the range as a derailleur setup, but there's also the Alfine 11, which isn't that much more expensive, and maintaining the lubrication of the hub is even easier. So, I'd say it's not out of the question for shimano to release a gearbox. The bigger issue than wanting to sell more parts to you is, that for the time being, the market for gearboxes is rather niche. If, or when they become more popular, there's more of an incentive to release one. And it will come with a pricetag for sure
@vlbz
@vlbz Ай бұрын
Steel DH bike with a gearbox. That's the dream bike.
@docmccoy9813
@docmccoy9813 Ай бұрын
Going downhill, but not for climbing
@blakekennard7700
@blakekennard7700 Ай бұрын
Never have I ever ridden a high pivot bike much less one with a gearbox. Listening to that thing going over hits and edges I was waiting for the sound of impact but none came. That thing is sweeeeeet!
@bryce273
@bryce273 Ай бұрын
The guy with the zerode is from perth where i’m from good to see you riding with people from west straya
@reubenvandendool
@reubenvandendool Ай бұрын
That’d be me. My man👊
@zenunity98
@zenunity98 27 күн бұрын
this kind of shifter seems useful for street bikes cause sometimes ur hit with a surprise yellow light there is not always enough time to shift to a low gear before you have to jam your breaks and stop leaving you to accelerate up to speed in your highest gear when the light turns green, i feel like the ability to shift down at a read light would be really nice
@purpleblueunicorn
@purpleblueunicorn 23 күн бұрын
Never had this issue, seems like there's already time to downshift going really slow, ride 5000km per year. Although on my fixie, I sometimes stop with the pedals in the wrong position and have to lift and roll.
@kornphlake79
@kornphlake79 Ай бұрын
2:57 No chain growth isn’t because there isn’t a derailleur, it is because of the idler sprocket approximately concentric with the main pivot. The small tensioner pulley behind the chainring accounts for any chain growth normally compensated for by a derailleur.
@Cassie_MTB
@Cassie_MTB 23 күн бұрын
I got myself a Nicolai with Pinion a year ago, and I probably never go back to derailleur bikes. Shifting down isn't much of an issue once you get used to it. Then you don't have to stop pedaling completely, just time it with the pedaling. Also, you don't have to pedal while shift. The Twist shift allows it to shift much faster than the Trigger. My wife and I now are completely switched to Gearbox Bikes, she's got her Pinion MGU E-Bike last Friday.
@DownhillIsTheBestHill
@DownhillIsTheBestHill Ай бұрын
I was the first public person to buy an AC1 and I built it up with 27.5 front and rear and I love it. Love the way the rear suspension sucks up the terrain. I don't really use it as an enduro bike, more like a park/downhill bike.
@JordanBoostmaster
@JordanBoostmaster Ай бұрын
that's awesome, what fork do you have on it then?
@DownhillIsTheBestHill
@DownhillIsTheBestHill Ай бұрын
@@JordanBoostmaster went with Manitou Dorado comp because I’m a coil fan boy! Haha Mine has the smart shift which is pinions electric shifting option.
@tygastfield613
@tygastfield613 15 күн бұрын
When they say they are quiet, exactly how quiet are they? Random noises from suspension, derailleurs, cables, etc. annoy me like crazy.
@ashleytombs
@ashleytombs Ай бұрын
Yeah Jordan back shredding the shore must be heaven despite the sketchy XC tires. wow Alex your bikes are absolutely beautiful you must be so proud and honored to have someone like Jordan ride your bikes
@trailsidesam3592
@trailsidesam3592 Ай бұрын
That AC1 is totally, absolutely, most definitely the one!!!! Beauty. 😍
@trailshreds
@trailshreds Ай бұрын
I must admit that I thought gearboxes would be the future as well, until I got one. Don't get me wrong, they aren't bad but for anything but downhill, they are severely limited by the resistence. If you only ride one for a few weeks you might not notice it, but after riding it for 6 - 12 months, the resistence becomes apparent. I think for enduro and dh bikes, gearboxes are good but for most other disciplines they have their limitations. Nice video!
@mr.facestab4051
@mr.facestab4051 Ай бұрын
Which gearbox did you get?
@trailshreds
@trailshreds Ай бұрын
@@mr.facestab4051 pinion c line
@headslash55
@headslash55 12 күн бұрын
I ride my mgu bike at 28kmph without the motor being on. There is more resistance at sub 15kmph, but above that it's negligible
@baileybroskie745
@baileybroskie745 Ай бұрын
wasnt zerode the first to actually come out with this on their production line of the taniwhas here in nz with the belt drive instead of chain drive
@Dan_Kornfeld
@Dan_Kornfeld Ай бұрын
Having to stop pedaling just to engage the downshift to an easier gear, creates a disadvantage similar to having a rear hub with a high degree of engagement - not having the almost instant response from pedal input, and having your momentum stalled when you potentially need it most from a rapid. gear change.
@fredEVOIX
@fredEVOIX Ай бұрын
that's why wireless gear changes are good on ebikes (in case someone doesn't know sram axs waits for a specific optimal chain ring to switch gear) but not great on muscular bikes, and btw also the reason why I'm going ebike because I do a lot of mountain uphills (20% or more) in the alps and on legs alone the slightest loss of momentum you stop dead because our legs don't have the instant torque-accel of a motor to go above that root rock bump while modern ebike motor will coast on it for 1-2 meters so you can stop pedaling for those few seconds
@dansacco1964
@dansacco1964 Ай бұрын
That is exactly what I was thinking. Probably half my downshifts are sketchy last minute panic downshifts once I am committed to some tech. Although I usually at least try to unweight or thrust the bike forward to prevent a hard crunch on the drivetrain. Maybe the non pedaling delay would be something similar we could get used to. Hard to say without feeling it.
@davemeise2192
@davemeise2192 Ай бұрын
That bike is phenomenal. It looks and rides so well. I believe Archibald Bikes are the first Canadian bikes that are using the Pinion Gearboxes. Up until recently I noted Pinion was not available in Canada or the USA. I would love to see more bikes with the Pinion gearbox options made available. The Pinion motor and gearbox would also be extra nice. I've seen quite a few tests of the Pinion motor gearbox setup and it's definitely a winner. Naturally cost is a factor but if one is already looking to buy a MTB in the $6000 (CAD) and up range I don't think it would be such a barrier.
@FVPOV
@FVPOV Ай бұрын
Alex is a sick guy making sick bikes! Saw you at the park with him during crankworx must've been super fun!
@WesMacaulay
@WesMacaulay Ай бұрын
Having ridden Pinion bikes a few times: the range of gears is amazing. These things can help you climb a wall. Maintenance - change the gearbox oil annually. Tough as nails! The belts don't need much if any love, either. If you want a rig to go around the world, or you want a bikebacking drivetrain, this is it. Minor downsides: about 5% loss via friction. I could feel it on the climbs. Gearboxes do add extra weight (over a pound more compared to XTR or X01) - but it is where you want it! They're also more expensive than derailleurs - but lifetime cost might be lower if you are hard on drivetrain components. The shifting perhaps isn't as smooth under load with a gearbox, but it is faster. They're a no-brainer for ebikes.
@dougcook3174
@dougcook3174 Ай бұрын
Glad you're back!
@DanFromBrasil
@DanFromBrasil 15 күн бұрын
The new gears from pinion are wireless and can be shift easy or hard all times. You do not need to stop puching the pedal.
@DanFromBrasil
@DanFromBrasil 15 күн бұрын
Also it can be equiped with a belt insted of chain.
@DanFromBrasil
@DanFromBrasil 15 күн бұрын
Oil change within 10.000 km.
@headslash55
@headslash55 12 күн бұрын
The shifter on the i1.12 isn't wireless
@Ferrari255GTO
@Ferrari255GTO Ай бұрын
DO YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE SUCKS?!?! Me of course, how else am i suposed to breathe? 😂
@YaboyOli101
@YaboyOli101 10 күн бұрын
Like the mechanics but the frame could have some work done to it
@mitchwarren1600
@mitchwarren1600 Ай бұрын
Been riding a 12 speed gearbox Deviate four years now covering about 3.500 miles had to change the cables once and i do oil change yearly. Gear change is instant and live in my subconscious. Gearbox technology is up there with dropper posts and tubeless tyres.
@KDog2264
@KDog2264 Ай бұрын
I so want one, just wish how much they are. I love steel frames, and I agree that getting rid of the derailleur is the way it should go.
@ROSE-by5su
@ROSE-by5su Ай бұрын
Problems with currenr Gearboxes -They don't come in standards -Pinion don't want to provide their GB mounting points,drawings, and files unless you are company or has a social media presence (Frame builders need to buy the gearbox to know the mounting points) -They are still in experimenting phase -Force the frame design to be mid pivot or high pivot or have a lower bb to make a room for a low pivot point
@docmccoy9813
@docmccoy9813 Ай бұрын
-They are HEAVY
@diran971
@diran971 2 күн бұрын
-They are EXPENSIVE
@DorsetMTBer
@DorsetMTBer Ай бұрын
The only way gearboxes will be the future is if they become cheap enough to put on all bikes. Rear mechs are much cheaper and any LBS has them. They are cool though
@SylvAinRousseAu-j4i
@SylvAinRousseAu-j4i Ай бұрын
Gear box is 20 years old and we still all have dérailleur on our bike
@notme_eh2918
@notme_eh2918 15 күн бұрын
No mention of the gearbox's efficiency.
@rocketappliantist4969
@rocketappliantist4969 23 күн бұрын
Would you ever make a boostmonster 2? Like another 300mm boostmonster but with better geometry?
@JordanBoostmaster
@JordanBoostmaster 22 күн бұрын
yes
@josemorenoporras7506
@josemorenoporras7506 Ай бұрын
I think in 14 years of riding bikes,mostly enduro and DH,only 1 time I managed to break my derailleur and it was like 8 years ago. Smash it with a big rock in a huge compression,that was it. But never had a problem or even a broken cable in my bike. I swap one shimano cos it was bend out of shape but it was still working. That bike looks great,less maintenance for sure,steel made. I think the electronic shifting for those gearboxes is the way to go,it can change gears way quicker and under load. Steel bikes had a unique feeling to them and I like it a lot,way more than any aluminum frame. That mushroom trail looks like any of my local trails hehehe.
@trailjockeytj6160
@trailjockeytj6160 Ай бұрын
Gearbox is definitely the way for Fay downhill or downhill oriented. Wear a cross country. It does take a little more wattage to spin the gearbox rather than just the derailer. I saw Dale‘s review of. That same bike and I would be all over having a gearbox, but I haven’t found the right steed yet
@MTCycling
@MTCycling 24 күн бұрын
Nice design, I would definitely get one it looks like you will not longer have to worry about chain drops and a broken derailleur and hanger..
@BuffiestFluff
@BuffiestFluff Ай бұрын
the We Are One's did some heavy lifting too!
@rubbermoetroken
@rubbermoetroken Ай бұрын
Chains suck too (literaly). Gates carbon belt is the future. Not this constantly maintenance requiring chain setup, that belittles the otherwise brilliant Pinion setup. We have a Zerode here at home, Pinion smartshift+gates CF belt, its brilliant in terms of maintenance as there is literaly none. Awesome vid. by the way. Lovely trails, big broaps !
@mrwow1667
@mrwow1667 Ай бұрын
i guess i’m an idiot cus i’ve never done anything with my chain 😂
@xEZTECx
@xEZTECx Ай бұрын
just a heads up for anyone with a vps/atomic/drop/shore/aline/ etc... If you have a broken pivot bolt, You can use a pivot bolt from a norco xc ( old stock ) as labeled by my norco dealer. he stated that he's unsure if the bolt is the same strength. Been driving it ever since. Mines converted to street, maxis holy rollers 26x2.4". But i did a frame swap for my vps. I had a fluid, and wanted this frame instead. not bad for 129$ to do a frame swap.
@legotechnic15YT
@legotechnic15YT 17 күн бұрын
If only my 2007 santa cryz cane with this 😂
@tygastfield613
@tygastfield613 Ай бұрын
The AC1 is on a VERY short list for my next bike. Everyone says they are quiet, but just how quiet are we talking? I’m hoping to test ride one soon, just need to coordinate it with Alex.
@2WheelsGood.01
@2WheelsGood.01 Ай бұрын
Cost will not permit the wide adoption of these gearboxes unfortunately. Also, weight and mechanical resistance. To this day there is no better power transfer and bang for buck than a good ole' derailleur and chain. I do love the reliability and lack of maintenance and adjustment. I do see all the Enduro bros in OC rocking them on their crazy e-bikes.
@drill_fiend1097
@drill_fiend1097 Ай бұрын
When a bike has gearbox, it should be with belt-drive too. Maybe belt has some power loss sure, but if that was a big concern, the bike should stick with derailleur too since Pinion has some power loss at human scale. Gotta go all in into dirt-resistance and have rubber-carbon fiber belt to commit to that aspect.
@mtb416
@mtb416 4 күн бұрын
Once derailleurs go away so will the ability for the weekend warrior, and even many advanced riders, to adjust and maintain their own gear system. So that’ll be nice taking your bike to the shop for every little adjustment.
@imnotallergic
@imnotallergic Ай бұрын
im in love with this bike already
@visomatic6815
@visomatic6815 Ай бұрын
"just something chill" proceeds to hit a ten foot drop
@David-mt7tj
@David-mt7tj Ай бұрын
The trick to not ruining derailleurs is not sucking at riding.
@JordanBoostmaster
@JordanBoostmaster Ай бұрын
I guess I am the worst at biking then
@David-mt7tj
@David-mt7tj Ай бұрын
@@JordanBoostmaster You said it bro not me
@TheRayDog
@TheRayDog 9 күн бұрын
Eagle style on a UDH will be cheaper and lighter for the foreseeable future. And it shifts so good. That'll probably win the market.
@Whoadayson
@Whoadayson 9 күн бұрын
So my only issue is if the gearbox requires power to make those gear changes or not and whats up if that power is absent? Otherwise, hell yeah! Im sure in time theyll refine them to where you dont have to let off at all to gear change, as its actually easier for a gear to shift under load, but it has certain prereqs for that to be true. Bravo to Archibald. I hope they succeed but I can only imagine what the Pinion alone costs so sales pricing has to be up there!
@endurorideraja6766
@endurorideraja6766 Ай бұрын
That particular bike i wouldn't want to ride, but Nicolai Bikes has the Saturn 16 MGU that i would really love the shred on. I'm hoping pinion can make conversions for none gear box bikes, to swap them over to that system.
@pj0x85
@pj0x85 6 күн бұрын
Pinion gearbox is great and I'd like to have it. On the other hand, bikes with pinion gearbox have average price 7-8k EUR and for that price I can have 2-3 Enduro bikes.
@turbo280zzz
@turbo280zzz Ай бұрын
Love these bikes. Steel is real!
@aric7726
@aric7726 Ай бұрын
I've wanted a pinion bike for years 😭 one day....
@SergejGrabun
@SergejGrabun Ай бұрын
The bike was not as silent as I thought it will be. I think the most 'rattle' was from the cables upfront
@3dcre8r28
@3dcre8r28 7 күн бұрын
@3:00 I think you got that backwards, it's got no derailleur because no chain growth, you said other way around.
@thim8009
@thim8009 Ай бұрын
I would love to try one out, I've lost count how many times I've bent my hanger.
@Somethinkinhere
@Somethinkinhere Ай бұрын
looks cool. i hope this gearbox idea becomes the standard for bikes
@Anon83462
@Anon83462 13 күн бұрын
As someone who recently smashed their derailleur, I would like to see this become the norm.
@syntrax-og
@syntrax-og Ай бұрын
Does it still use the grip shifter? I love the idea of gearboxes, but that's the only thing stopping from considering them.
@headslash55
@headslash55 12 күн бұрын
The electronic smart shift version has thumb shifters. And there have been brifters for the mechanical versions for some years
@vswilll4400
@vswilll4400 Ай бұрын
the future is single speed
@geemy9675
@geemy9675 Ай бұрын
if MTB trails were flat...
@NBM397
@NBM397 28 күн бұрын
It's called an IGH (Rohloff, Shimano etc.), or a mid box (think Pinion). It's been a thing for decades. But I agree: Derailleurs sucks,and this with that weird chain route doesn't really improve on that. Pinions and Rohloff can use belts.
@aznwierdone
@aznwierdone Ай бұрын
That thing looks sick. Do you think there was a steeper learning curve than expected with shifting while climbing?
@WDPsoldier
@WDPsoldier 23 күн бұрын
i have been wishing to do the switch to gearbox for the last 7 years. Deraillleur are weak, can be expensive, they are always in the way when riding tight single track/ruts and there is no second chance with it. You hit it and itll never shift good again. The complete lack of company mass producing gearbox frames makes it very expensive to get in. Perfect example is Archibald, a frame set of the AC1 is 8k CAD..a frameset : frame, shock and gearbox. Same price as a high end complete bike. It will only makes sens once a frameset price reaches other manufacturers price including a long warranty.
@shannontrainer5857
@shannontrainer5857 17 күн бұрын
A Pinion gearbox start at over $1,000 for a 6-speed by itself.
@KX_Isaac
@KX_Isaac Ай бұрын
you needa make another boost and roost video, I haven't seen one in like a year!
@whateverrobert
@whateverrobert Ай бұрын
No drainer but more moving parts. That means a lot of maintenance. I’ll stick with my detailer
@headslash55
@headslash55 12 күн бұрын
There are less moving parts out in the open. The only maintenance you have to do is changing the oil yearly or every 10k
@ПётрБ-с2ц
@ПётрБ-с2ц 6 күн бұрын
What's the chain growth and how is it related to rear suspension?
@rab..
@rab.. Ай бұрын
Love the idea of a gearbox bike but not being able to downshift while pedaling really makes it a non starter. The amount of times where you need to grab a few gears lower for a short sharp climb that sneaks up on you on unfamiliar trails. That and i can count on one hand the amount of derailleurs i've smashed in the last 15 years 🤷
@Ferrari255GTO
@Ferrari255GTO Ай бұрын
It's a shame that theese things aren't more common because they certainly get attention. Would it be possible to swap onto an old bike with the thin axle? Might look to swap in the future, sounds like a great upgrade for a DH bike
@2WheelsGood.01
@2WheelsGood.01 Ай бұрын
No, the frame needs to be specifically made for it.
@Ferrari255GTO
@Ferrari255GTO Ай бұрын
@@2WheelsGood.01 i thought so :/
@themiddleagemasher8108
@themiddleagemasher8108 Ай бұрын
Hey Jordan. I’d be really curious about what you think / review the Trek Slash gen6 (high pivot). Also on an Archibald comment. How did it pedal ? Antisquat in line? Loving the vid dude
@nielslarsen1693
@nielslarsen1693 12 күн бұрын
Tbh I have both Pinion and Rohloff gearboxed bikes, while nice, I really dislike not being able to shift while pedling as well Compared to both my shimano and sram bikes. Tbh I love my mechanical XTR and XX1 more on MTB than their electronic counterparts.
@pcdispatch
@pcdispatch 11 күн бұрын
I have the Rohloff on one of my mtb's. Why you cannot shift while pedaling? It works flawlessly under load. Except when changing between 7 and 8, then it changes to 11th gear when too much load is applied. But this isn't a real problem.
@SenpaiDorito
@SenpaiDorito Ай бұрын
what's your favorite trail at Fromme mines floppy bunny
@fredEVOIX
@fredEVOIX Ай бұрын
pretty sure there's a reasony why they didn't put the chain in the middle of our calf also as usual it's the things they don't advertise that your need to look for and what I don't see is the total bike weight nowhere on their site you know the last bike I saw that didn't talk about the weight ? Lapierre emtb and how much was it ? 26kgs 57.3lbs
@geemy9675
@geemy9675 Ай бұрын
derailleur still make plenty of sense for pros with free unlimited parts, and dedicated team for maintenance, cleaning etc but for regular riders current bike industry is the equivalent of an amateur racer buying new gearbox zvery time he's changing tires. considering the cost of MTB parts, gearing shouldn't be a consumables item, and arguing about weight when there's so many things adding weight like suspensions, disc brakes, wide 29 wheels, seems futile. I'd happily trade a bit of weight for a gearbox that lasts as long as the frame, and makes the group set easier to clean. lower unsprung mass is just a nice benefit. hopefully they work out the pedalling under load. I think with emtb becoming more and more common this question will become even more central, Ith incremental weight savings becoming less important
@boogieman6214
@boogieman6214 Ай бұрын
For me personally as a XC mtber i would rather have a normal Derailleurs even know i just broke one this weekend because as a XC rider we r always going over different types of terrain up and down hills. When i am riding i want to ride my bike and not think about shifting due to the Derailleurs being such a well developed component it is very smooth and works very well. I am not trying to say that this should not catch on just wish u would be able to shift with it like it was a normal Derailleurs where you don't have to think oh i have to stop pedaling up this hill and lose speed and time. i am very picky and like to be very efficient when i am biking.
@Skyedit.s
@Skyedit.s Ай бұрын
Hey Jordan I’m trying to get a new bike do you know any good brands?
@artvandelay1720
@artvandelay1720 Ай бұрын
I'd love a gearbox + belt for a low maintenance bike, but for the price of those, I could just buy a new drivetrain every year instead
@Dridgeism
@Dridgeism Ай бұрын
Yeah the buy in cost is just too damn inaccessible for too many riders...if they can start delivering this stuff as an SLX/GX price point I think it could finally gain real traction.
@lilblaster22
@lilblaster22 Ай бұрын
What gear is best for popping wheelies🎉
@matthewkolp993
@matthewkolp993 Ай бұрын
Can't shift while pedaling? That could be a problem...
@Boss-dr2zk
@Boss-dr2zk Ай бұрын
You can. But you can also shift while not pedaling/ standing still
@ronsanderson99
@ronsanderson99 Ай бұрын
How much heavier is the bike compared to a similar derailleur setup?
@Flyingcow2021
@Flyingcow2021 Ай бұрын
How often does the gearbox have to be cleaned out? I imagine they pick up all the gunk from the chain pretty readily.
@2WheelsGood.01
@2WheelsGood.01 Ай бұрын
It's a sealed unit, no gunk inside. I believe they just need oil changes like Rohloffs.
@Flyingcow2021
@Flyingcow2021 Ай бұрын
@@2WheelsGood.01 good to know, thanks!
@JordanBoostmaster
@JordanBoostmaster Ай бұрын
about once a year oil changes
@friarsky
@friarsky Ай бұрын
Love it. Can it be run with a belt?
@pungarehu
@pungarehu 25 күн бұрын
When this chap goes under (apologies for the crappy assumption - but……….) how are you going to source that funky little sprocket at the top of the driveline - just a question?. I presume the rest is proprietary so shouldn’t be a hassle. Otherwise, it’s a cool concept.
@NeriEngineering-oq6vh
@NeriEngineering-oq6vh Ай бұрын
Bad design. The tensioned portion of chain undergoes a bend. This is a huge power loss. I know this based on experience; a front wheel drive recumbent had this same design, which sapped a lot of power. But I still set a time trial course record, in San Diego, on that recumbent. 24:23 for 20k.
@GazSChad
@GazSChad 16 күн бұрын
If the gear box came out first, then someone invented the rear derailleur, which saved you massive amounts of weight and expense. Most people would switch immediately.
@marcjohn7416
@marcjohn7416 18 күн бұрын
I've broken one derailleur ever and I wasn't even riding at the time. They do not suck
@razorree
@razorree Күн бұрын
Solution is easier than you think.... get rid of Sram derailleur (and get Shimano)
Ай бұрын
Derailleurs SUCK agree! i broke so many of them that i gave up. i dont ride enduro, so, im just riding single speed for the last year or so. i dont miss it, but for the future, yeah, a gearbox woud be awesome.
@siriosstar4789
@siriosstar4789 Ай бұрын
" Derailleurs suck" so say those that never learned how to pay attention and anticipate the upcoming terrain ., derailleurs have been perfected . they are reliable , have low resistance and a re cheap. They are here to stay !
@WesMacaulay
@WesMacaulay Ай бұрын
For a DH bike, gearboxes make total sense
@Ihateduckface157
@Ihateduckface157 Ай бұрын
@@WesMacaulaybut more and more people are switching to aggressive enduro bikes. Downhill bikes are too slow
@docmccoy9813
@docmccoy9813 Ай бұрын
Clickbait title, dumb title.
@pcdispatch
@pcdispatch 11 күн бұрын
But derailleur shifting cannot compete with a gearbox, like the Rohloff hub. I have had a Rohloff on my mtb for over 10 years. It still shifts perfect and instantly, under load and when standing still. Now im on Sram AXS and it is a different story. There is just too much delay when you got used to a gearbox.
@jmard24
@jmard24 Ай бұрын
As gnarly as those trails look on cam, I imagine its much worse in person.
@DEERF0RCE
@DEERF0RCE 27 күн бұрын
I hate derailleurs so much that I just ride single speed.
@amtberproducts
@amtberproducts 20 күн бұрын
So does Reed boggs
@orestisvas7277
@orestisvas7277 Ай бұрын
The no downshift wile pedaling is a deal breaker for me, that's what i need most of the time while i rarely need to upshift and if i do i will just go slower if it was the other way around while in this case you might be stuck on a steep incline
@JordanBoostmaster
@JordanBoostmaster Ай бұрын
I can understand! but there is a new pinion smart shift system that fixes that
@orestisvas7277
@orestisvas7277 Ай бұрын
@@JordanBoostmaster That's grate
@JustSnowglow
@JustSnowglow Ай бұрын
Gearbox is a no brainer for gravity riding imo
@psyguy37
@psyguy37 Ай бұрын
If I had a gearbox bike I'd run an Onyx hub on it to make the bike dead silent.
@JordanBoostmaster
@JordanBoostmaster Ай бұрын
that would be cool
@blakekennard7700
@blakekennard7700 Ай бұрын
You could nickname it “the stealth bomber”.
@joshuavantongeren1734
@joshuavantongeren1734 Ай бұрын
@@blakekennard7700 🤣🤣🤣👏
@robertmoore119
@robertmoore119 Ай бұрын
13 min 50 seconds in. First, I don't think those are the future. Because they are or seem to be complicated. I think they are a viable a very good option. My questions. 1. The rider was able to pedal while shifting to a higher gear. Nice. When shifting to a lower gear, they state and show the process. The rider stopped pedaling to shift to a lower gear. Can they just slow down or reduce pedaling pressure, or does that require a complete stop? Also, traction was not the best, but it is evident that the front tire is not a cross country tire. Back to the video.
@TheSarcasticEngineer
@TheSarcasticEngineer 14 күн бұрын
Look, Jordan. First time viewer, 5m in. Mostly you've commented how the bike is the wrong size and has the wrong tyres. If you were filming a promo, and you brought the wrong bike, go home. It's just a bad look on both of you, especially the owner. What did you think you were doing today? How long did you spend editing footage, but the pair of you couldn't put an extra hr into prep? The video's well put together, awesome locations, honest review, just really let down by that factor
@ryanspreer
@ryanspreer Ай бұрын
dude I frickin love your videos man you don't even know
@rylandrc
@rylandrc 15 күн бұрын
Simplicity > Complexity in this case imo.
@RickyDownhillRDH
@RickyDownhillRDH 15 күн бұрын
Yeah, we've been waiting and waiting for this technology to become the "norm"... still waiting.
@00mazone
@00mazone Ай бұрын
I just got a new bike this summer. I usually keep bikes about 4 years. I predict my next bike will have a gear box and it will be the new standard for higher end bikes.
@joshuavantongeren1734
@joshuavantongeren1734 Ай бұрын
just of my curoisity what bike do u got 😂🤔
@00mazone
@00mazone Ай бұрын
@@joshuavantongeren1734 A YT Decoy
@obxarms7685
@obxarms7685 9 күн бұрын
Looks so simple and light weight .....Yah.
@JamesMason-qh9dt
@JamesMason-qh9dt Ай бұрын
Hey Jordan I was wondering what tips you have for me to start to get more views and likes
@collinmcballin
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