Is the TRP 12 speed drivetrain bad?

[@aintnobodygottime4dat]

$800+ dollars...they're nuts!

[@johnnycab8986]

They'd have a tall order to fill if it was electronic, that this is mechanical makes it even more insane. XTR groups are like $500.

[@ayalawad5319]

TRP brakes next?❤

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Yup! I heard they're the best

[@B1KER]

The build is coming together. I definitely like the gold on there. But one major problem with the TRP....CABLES!

[@MTB_CRZY]

Whats wrong with cables?

[@EvansMTBSaga]

I'm still waiting on wireless brakes 😂

[@EddyVernon]

Nobody has finished this video when I commented

[@FACTSI1I]

I did

[@Icamas]

I was keen on it because of the hall lock. But it's quite easy to mod a sram rear mech to have the same feature

[@David-bw7is]

I'd never heard of TRP here in the UK until I bought a Intense MTB which had TRP brakes. If the drive train is as good as the brakes, which in my opinion are very very good, then it should have absolutely no problems competing with Shimano and SRAM.

[@Stockfish1511]

I think SRAMs transmission is the next height to reach. If i want mechanical classic drivetrain i can easly got for shimano xt, xtr or sram gx and still do everything. Transmission is the new standards imo

[@EvansMTBSaga]

They're working on cable transmission. I've seen it in person and will be one of the first to buy

[@JacksonFTW]

I’m entered! Great vid.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Thanks Jackson! Good luck

[@TommiHonkonen]

if the shifting is good at first then gets bad at some point its just the cable stretching

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Yeah then can use the barrel adjuster. I thought it was interesting that mine got better over time 😂

[@original_barins]

whe will you abbandon that rockshox crap and try a formula fork and shock?

[@EvansMTBSaga]

No plans on formula but I'm working on Intend and EXT for future builds

[@tarap1200]

Dvo the best

[@Markozzy]

I found some of the sram shifters are pretty cheap in material especially there low end like sx and gx.rather buy a more expensive shifter this trp set up looks interesting

[@fud1376]

Horizon V2's..Had mine for coming on 2 years without any issues..Quality Wheels..!😎 And I'll stick with XT Thanks..ha!

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Seriously the best for the price

[@Incaensio]

Looks like you could use a Shimano chain

[@Gorakhal]

I am curious about long term durability, please let us know later ! :)

[@EvansMTBSaga]

I will keep riding it! I have no desire to ride my E-Bike now and grab this one every time

[@dan___1907]

Price for this is well out!

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Yeah really charging for the kashima look lol

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

Bad reviews maybe but I've beed using the G-spec since 2023, excellent with a Shimano XT cassette, I bought the newest generation for my other bike and it's pretty similar, they fixed some annoyance but the masterpiece is the clutch, once you adjust the engagement and retention you won't ever drop a chain. *Derailleur aged well, shifter meh, probably what your friend issue is. Good news it's 1:1 so sram compatible, I run a GX on my original setup. NEVER DO ANY ADJUSTMENTS OR REMOVE THE WHEEL WITHOUT OPENING THE HALL LOCK. If you do undo the 5mm allen holding the derailleur and reset the lock. 😂

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Good tips! I saw your comment on someone else's video about the drivetrain haha. So you can confirm that you can run a SRAM chain with TRP cassette/derailleur?

[@aleksarajkovic3471]

@@EvansMTBSaga you can run 10-50 sram but not 10-52, 10-51 is maximum it can fit.

[@AORNova]

@@EvansMTBSagaYes you can run any Sram chain. TRP does not have stipulated chain to use on its drivetrain. You can also use Sram or Shimano shifters with TRP. All the 12 speed stuff now use 1:1. Same concept if you run XT dee to XX1 cassette. So compatibility of 12 speed these days is excellent. You can mix and match parts with no deficit... only thing you cannot mix is Shimano 12s Hyperglide+ (HG+) chain and HG+ chainring. Those two only work with each other. Tested the previous gen TRP 12s dee and chain slap/retention is better than Sram , but the rachet clutch wears out over time and you will more slop in the engagement. Also note the clutch and internals will need regreasing if not the dee is prone to seizing/stiff feeling when shifting. Service intervals are not as frequent as Shimano but nowhere near Sram's clutch longevity. Personally, for this setup I'd run the TRP dee, paired to an XO1 shifter, and use an XT cassette and any off-brand chainring that isn't HG+. This way you get the durability and tactile feel of Sram shifter, the ultra quick Shimano cassette (none of that Sram delay or clunking), while having that nice TRP clutch.

[@garthgilbert5054]

What tyres are you running on the Santa Cruz?

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Maxxis Exo. Idk the model cuz I blacked out the logos haha

[@LEGENDofBEANY]

I love TRP, use their brakes on two bikes, but with that price ifs hard not to run T-Type 😬

[@EvansMTBSaga]

I will try TRP brakes next!

[@mattkock]

Great video. GOOOOOOLD!!! 🤪

[@ninjazzrhythm400]

I think NX is a good enough system but I'm more of a shimano guy. I had a gx and shimano just respond better and better feel imo.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

I don't have a lot of experience with XT. Deore is good, very light lever presses

[@ZeeDroid75]

TRP. Very nice 🤙

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Yeah dude turned out good! I was thinking it would have problems

[@ZeeDroid75]

@@EvansMTBSaga Their brakes are CRAZY good as well. TRP DH-R EVO 4 piston. You'll be very tempted. And they're Gold

[@EvansMTBSaga]

That is one of the next planned videos! I have them in the mail right now

[@ZeeDroid75]

@@EvansMTBSaga Love it. Same mind set ❤️🤙

[@LaurentiusTriarius]

I ditched the TRP DHR Evo brakes but I'm still running two derailleurs and one shifter, I replaced my original TRP tr12 shifter by a GX since it started making clicking noises and has weird loose ends in between gears, the brakes were just to inconsistent after a couple of bleeds. Now on the lewis LH4 on both bikes.

[@rosslyall7369]

You should take a look at upsidedown fork like intend and push there are no reviews out there I think it would make an awesome video

[@Valentin359]

Intend is just amazing. Enormously expensive, but if you are choosing something from 1000+$ options, intend perfoms so much better than RS or Fox products.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

I have an Intend Infinity fork in my possession. Just waiting for the right bike to install it on

[@cingve]

Can some one tell me why the shipping fees are 4000 to norway what a scam. pls pin or answer

[@EvansMTBSaga]

I'm glad you checked before entering. I think the import fees are because it's adding value to your economy and they're trying to tax that

[@cingve]

@@EvansMTBSaga are there anyway that i can dodge it? since i need a new bike i have grown out of mine and mum and dad wont buy me a new one and id have any thing to sell to get enough for a bike. so i thought i could try my luck but it seems like its not worth it the sry thx for fast answer do gonna sub

[@cingve]

@@EvansMTBSaga if i ever would get enough do would u recomend an used Gt sensor 2019?

[@cingve]

Hlo?

[@jf8534]

Chain slap central. Looks cool but at that price foggedaboutit

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Oh man I've seen wayyyyy more chain movement in footage of me running GX. Times where the chain is hitting the ground haha

[@stevebennett3587]

😂far too expensive for me🤔running only 1x10 11-42 cassette and a 32t chainring😆its plenty of range for me👌it all wears out, and find deore cheaper to replace, and its smooth when set up nicely😎👍

[@zombiemasacre]

I have similar thoughts. The lower level Shimano drivetrains are so good for the price I have a hard time getting anything else. I have an 11 speed deore drivetrain and have no need for more. Maybe some day I will be able to tell the difference.

[@erikklumpp3464]

It’s not bad just expensive and not as good as xt or xtr

[@Valentin359]

Im also can't justify the price of it. Its like ok.. it has some features, but would i pay x2 for them over XT drivetrain? Absolutely NO. Especially when new XT and XTR coming in 2025 with 9-55 cassetes.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Woah 9-55?! If it works, I could see myself buying the gold cassette for a XT drivetrain (but only if that's the theme I'm going for)

[@tomassanesson902]

Soo awesome

[@Liz_mtbyt]

100% you should get gold trp brakes

[@EvansMTBSaga]

They should arrive today!

[@Liz_mtbyt]

@@EvansMTBSaga sick can’t wait to see them on the Bronson!

[@Fred-lu9vs]

Get kashima next

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Working on it!

[@overlandgermany456]

Very nice, but with the price... Nope

[@NBAClipper72010]

Free entry to slash give away????

[@henrymtb09]

5 views, 10 comments and 8 likes. youtubes math is going crazy

[@szymonzak6681]

we all love a lil gambling don't we😂

[@vanabondmoto]

3rd drivetrain brand=7 more specialty tools/$365. The bike industry is ass, riding bikes is a blast.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

No specialty tools needed for what I purchased! Regular ol cassette tool, Allen keys, chain breaker. The main reason I didn't buy the cranks because they have their own chainring interface and probably a specialty tool for that, and I can't stand having different BB and chainring tools

[@madovercarsofficial]

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[@sthr2110]

I love how people just ride right between you and the camera. Are they literally that self-centered?

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Haha i love it and encourage it. To me it provides authenticity and realism to the shots

[@lentz_al]

2:00 what did you do to the cassete

[@EvansMTBSaga]

The existing one was on tight! I had to use a breaker bar + wrench extension, plus the chain whip tool with a breaker bar extension on that side too. Super sketch, and I didn't get it on video 😔

[@marcopaganotto9125]

Microspline absolutely sux! What on earth were Shimano thinking man! Especially since the Chinese make 12 speed cassettes that fit on the HG standard 🤦

[@EvansMTBSaga]

What don't you like about Microspline? I don't like how the cassette comes apart and the hardest cog is lame to put on. Once it's on its fine though

[@marcopaganotto9125]

It's the durability, which really isn't good in my experience. I've had 2 fail on me over the last couple of years. Whereas HG NEVER dies! Thanks for the reply dude 👍🙏

[@Valentin359]

Sounds of shifting is so terrible... Like when you make Shimano clutch too stiff and you can feel and hear that it no longer wants to change gears...

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Hmm good point, I didn't think about that. Its pretty smooth despite the sound

[@Valentin359]

​@@EvansMTBSaga can you access and adjust clutch or it's like 12s srams? I think it would benefit from a little less tension.

[@EddyVernon]

Nobody has finished this video when I commented