Wire Feed Welding Basics - Buying a Shielding Gas Cylinder New or Used

[@brendanmoore8159]

You gave me a few good places to eyeball for gasses, thanks.

[@Trump985]

In my area we don't have a choice, there seems to be an agreement between all the LWSs in the area not to fill customer owned cylinders over 80CF. If you go through more then about 6 cylinder a year its actually cheaper to rent the 330 CF cylinders due to the substantially lower cost of the gas. However if you don't use much gas its cheaper to own the little 80cf cylinders. I do both as I do very little MIG welding so I rarely use C25, My little 80 lasts me a year or maybe two, However when it comes to Argon I use quite a bit TIG welding. Same goes for the torches, living in New England and our love affair with salting the roads all winter you'd be hard pressed to make it through the day without having to heat something up or burn it off when it comes to working on cars, trucks, and trailers.

[@DereksWorkshopAndProjects]

Interesting. It so weird how things are so different in the same country. I of course live on about the complete opposite even of it from you so that doesn’t help. I go through about 1 c25 every two year now days but I’m not welding near as much as I used to. And the rust and corrosion is definitely something I am aware that you guys deal with up there from the salty roads. I’d hate to be a mechanic in your area.

[@jdsullivan7023]

Damn good video. Haven’t welded in years and getting everything started back up. Came looking for some simple tank info to freshen up. And came out with a lot more useful information 🤙🤙🤙

[@GeoBurdo]

This is one of those things that is totally irrelevant to me right now, but I'll need at some point in the future when i delve into this. Good to have for future reference

[@DereksWorkshopAndProjects]

Just find a local welding supplier or industrial gas supplier is the best advice I can give. Compare mom and pop and big names and you should be good!

[@GeoBurdo]

@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects It's funny, I watched that video yesterday and then noticed an air-gas welding supply store on my trip to church. Just another mental note for later

[@WhiteDesignsUSA]

Where I am in Central California, almost all the bottles have names on the neck, the weldibg supplies don't care, you may just have to pay a small fee to have it painted if it's not in their colours, but that's a recent thing for my welding supply. I've bought all my cylinders used, maybe 10 at this point, and I've never had a problem exchanging them, although with my 300 cu ft cylinders I did have to sign something for the dot saying I am the one who own them, not sure what that's about.

[@bigdsvarietychannel4753]

A blank neck ring is a customer owned bottle. However I have never had an issue turning in a bottle that had markings on the neck ring. Apparently most places don’t care unless the neck ring says Airgas Matheson praxair exc the big ones.

[@coffeeoutlaws7783]

non of the napa stores i called in the north austin area carry it

[@craigguinn5423]

I got a 125 c25 full in north Ga. For around $300. I just swapped it for $25, same dealer. This one has less gas, about 1500# vs 1900#. I’ll see what they do next swap.

[@javiertello8578]

Excellent info thanks

[@tomrado5249]

Sweet man thanks for the info!

[@DereksWorkshopAndProjects]

Thanks for watching!

[@paulreed6340]

Called Airgas yesterday. 125cf is $400 plus $100 to fill!

[@DereksWorkshopAndProjects]

That’s insane man!

[@takenusername]

I called my local Airgass last week also, but the cost was nowhere near that high

[@VerifyVeracity]

What I've been trying to better understand is how to know how many CF (cubic feet) of Argon are in my #4 ( 125 CF ) Argon cylinder as the PSI decrees. Like now I'm at about 1000 PSI now I'm sure there are a lot more than 1/2 of the starting CF of 125, because with my understanding the higher the presser the less additional Cubic Feet of gas (in my case Argon) can be added to the cylinder per PSI increase. So with my practicing of TIG welding it got down to 1000 PSI faster than I would have hoped it would have, but it should take longer to go down as I get lower in presser. Is there a chart to show the cubic feet left in a cylinder relative to the PSI? I've been looking & looking can't seem to find one. Now maybe I'm just wrong about being able to compress more gas per PSI increase at lower PSI, & less increase of CF per PSI as the presser get higher.

[@DereksWorkshopAndProjects]

Nothing I’m aware of. That’s a good question that I haven’t thought of though!

[@robchesley4591]

Airgas prices were well over your tractor supply.. in my area anyway

[@DereksWorkshopAndProjects]

Well, I did make this video 2 or 3 years ago I think.

[@choppedandscrewedcustoms]

I just priceed buying my first and the 175 tank filled I'd $390 and refill when needed is $75 from the local air gas store and that's in store pick up I didn't ask about delivery

[@DereksWorkshopAndProjects]

Wow, that's pretty steep. I wouldn't be surprised if it hasn't all gone up in price.

[@DereksWorkshopAndProjects]

Last time I got my tank filled it was like $46 I think.

[@choppedandscrewedcustoms]

@@DereksWorkshopAndProjects Yep I guess I look at it as as investment in myself and my skills sets

[@Zombiereaper1]

Good info!

[@DereksWorkshopAndProjects]

Thanks for watching, as usual!

[@moejr14]

What do you buy a used cylinder and not sure if it was leased or not?

[@DereksWorkshopAndProjects]

I think I covered this in the video but I’d stay away from from bottles with a name stamped in the collar of the bottle.

[@jamesduffey4442]

The top of the bottle will have a company's name on it but if the top ring around the valve is blank then your good

[@jayward7536]

thanks for the info man

[@Shadow6a]

Most gas suppliers will not touch a bottle that isn't theirs.

[@DereksWorkshopAndProjects]

I’ve heard that a lot but not my experience with two companies. One mom and pop, and one corporate. Both just took the bottles in no problem.

[@noahstradamusthe_lesser_kn7955]

Good job

[@DereksWorkshopAndProjects]

Thanks for watching

[@ryansanderson3867]

I got a contract for a size 16 botttle, i paid $107 for 3 years for the contract. $80 every time I need it filled, for me it’s a no brainer, bottle would cost $400 and some odd dollars to buy and I likely won’t even get it refilled

[@DereksWorkshopAndProjects]

If you were only going to weld for 3 years, that makes sense, but if you’re going to weld for years and years to come. In 12 years, you’d have paid for the bottle. It is, of course, easier to pay $107 but if you can afford the $400, I say why not!

[@ClownWhisper]

As soon as he mentioned tractor supply I stopped the video to type this I bet he's going to say because they are ridiculously expensive they're like five times more expensive than the mom and pop shop that should actually be more. They're absolutely ridiculous it's embarrassing how expensive

[@kenadams3951]

good that's