Derren Brown NLP Swish Pattern

[@BadgersAndJam77]

Derren Brown is amazing. His clips are amongst the best demonstrations of NLP, I've ever seen outside of a training seminar and to see these principles work on people that don't have an expectation of how they are 'supposed' to respond is priceless. He is brilliant.

[@Fangornmmc]

he anchors uncertainity to HER left shoulder and certainity to HER right shoulder so every time he shows her a color he touches her on the left and then she starts to doubt wether it's really yellow/red/green/blue... Very well done, coolest thing is that I have been seeing so many NLP videos by known that I start to recognize the anchors!

[@Thinksheknowsit]

Good to know. I've anchored feelings in people and developed rapport using mirroring quite well on several occasions, and I've also used the handshake break to elicit a (admitedly light) rapid induction, but it's encouraging to know that NLP can be used to that extent. Cheers, James

[@evilagram]

Richard Bandler has a bunch of great books on NLP. Derren Brown recommends a few in his book Tricks of the Mind. Namely, "Frogs into Princes", "Trance-formations", and "persuasion engineering". He also says the eye-accessing cues have limited use, and may differ between people, so watch out on that part.

[@nwliz3333]

Derren Brown the reason why I'm getting certified as NLP practitioner.

[@Eggbubble]

wow just read about Swish and Anchoring and now I understand what the hell he's doing here! NLP is great. Derren is a master at this :D

[@MikeoWar]

In the start he was talking about somethiing she felt unsure with and he touched her left shoulders every time he mentioned what was unsure, and then he talked about her home that was defenitely Vegas and touched her right shoulder every time he mentioned something that was absolutely true. Later when he talked about the colours he asked stuff like "but this doesn't have to be yellow, does it?" and touched her "uncertain" left shoulder qhile doing so, making her uncertain. Amazing! =)

[@lovesarita]

says who! that's a pretty sweeping statement. for general readers - nlp is a huge field and is not inherently manipulative! it also has amazing therapeutic and learning applications

[@keithhickson]

I've been hypnotized before and it is real, but its something you can fight off. Its like the feeling of being distracted and not able to concentrate for a minute, like seeing a celebrity and being unable to look away, or blocking out your girlfriend talking to you during a important sports' match on tv. Everyone's been hypnotized you just didnt know what it was. It's just the feeling of being distracted temporarily and during that time you allow things you know not to be true to seem true

[@jsung8070]

i can do my paper! "um, why did you submit this entire essay in, RED INK?"

[@phlip1080]

Actually according to Richard Bandler the up right is common for visual construction and he also says that it can differ from person to person. Her cue for visual reconstruction might not up top right. I did notice that thought and thought the same thing

[@rdoetjes]

Completely agree, her left arm was anchored with her deep feeling of uncertainty. Her left right was anchored with her definite believe. By tapping the left shoulder he could create uncertainty of the colour red and by keeping the verbal pace up and slowly talking her in to believing it was red he then fired the definite believe anchor.

[@Tedleo875]

I noticed something REALLY cool in this video. Derren associates the right side of her body (touching her right arm) with certainty. Then when he tells her that yellow is red, he gets her to say that it's red while he's touching her right arm. Cool. So it's not JUST verbal.

[@ivarpb]

@Dooley You are right. I have tried this swish pattern on my fellow students to make them more motivated and more drawn towards studying. Sometimes it works, sometimes it dont. It depends on the situation and on the concentration and determination of the subject. And of course how I present it.

[@rnld115]

Very clever technique he uses here. He first starts anchoring a stat in wich the woman is certain of things and a state in which she doubts. He does this with the school example, when talking about uncertain things he touches her right shoulder, certain things are anchored to here left shoulder. Then when he starts to ask here if the card is definetly yellow he touches the uncertain shoulder to get her into a state where she doubts herself. In theory its not hard ^^

[@perfectenemy131]

@Dooley id like to understand why it would matter if they are a left handed person or not.

[@pstlwhppd]

@MikeoWar I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the difference between your right and left brain too. Left = logical, analytical, right = creative. That's theoretically how nlp is applicable to eye movement.

[@mrbreckles]

As soon as you work it out its great

[@sillyoldtayo]

Its really interesting that when you really think about his word usage for the "uncertain" feeling and then for the "certain" feeling its soooo different. On the uncertain side he plants, maybe, not so sure, not quite certain and he shakes his hand more. Then for the certain side he uses, definately, positive,

[@hectornonayurbusiness2631]

He would have had a field day with that black and blue dress

[@VictorBravocarsales]

NLP in eye accessing cues up and right is Visual remember. The way I remembered it was if you think the letter C comes before R in the alphabet. So when you look at someones you know that VC is up and to the left VR is up to the right..I hope this helps .

[@_soulcraft_]

That made no sense.

[@ringo1029384756]

Very cool indeed. Something I want to try. But, how does one reverse it? Just un-anchor the thought?

[@spfo1972]

Technically he's not doing a swish pattern. He's using Submodalities indeed but not a swish pattern. And you can reverse it. There's a technique called Collapsing Anchors thats meant for that. By the way, I think Derren Brown is great so this is not a critic to the video, I really admire the guy!

[@123432112323]

Dude made my fucking day! I was looking for indepth details of this, and got the funniest post ive seen on youtube by far.

[@lagger427]

she has been hypnotized by darren brown using NLP tricks making her think red is black and yellow is red.

[@lookapigeon]

I've actually tried this on an extremely impressionable kid at school during a music lesson, most of the stuff you've written here might help, but its by no means necessary.

[@ArtystaWojciechGlanc]

On what video material with Richard Bandler can I find it? Have any idea? Thank you

[@warfin2k]

Some NLP techniques can be used in mass media. However, in this example, Derren is calibrating to the girl in the video and anchoring her responses. In the case of mass media, the anchor could be something else, like the sound of someones voice or an image.

[@andrewp.8432]

I think you were ahead of you time- This may be strange after 13 years, but have you noticed associative anchoring in social media feeds? Linking together unassociated threads to force an association.

[@starwarsgeek8]

What did the whole 'touching the shoulder' thing do?

[@korvlada]

anyone know a good nlp that explain anchoring, embedded commands more in specifik details? i been reading nlp workbook and wasent what i was looking for, not bandler either.

[@warfin2k]

There are all kinds of resources. Google or find NLP books, audio books, videos by Richard Bandler, Michael Hall, Robert Dilts, Kenrick Cleveland, etc. Even Darren Brown has an interesting book out.

[@kischiman]

I llloove this! What a clever idea and wonderful implemtation!

[@Thinksheknowsit]

Now, this is my trouble with Derren Brown. I have never seen NLP have such a strong response as Derren Brown claims to use it to. Would appreciate a reply from an adept NLP practitioner. Can NLP have effects to this degree? Surely this is Derren's "Misdirection" ans "Showmanship"?

[@warfin2k]

Depends on the context. Are lions present or not?

[@reincarnation89]

no no no, if u see when she was explaining 'uncertainty' he made the sign for 'maybe' to be touching her left shoulder. and sign for 'sure' to be touching her right shoulder. so whenever he asks a question and wants her to show uncertainty he does so by touching her left shoulder. and vice versa with opposite shoulder.

[@graveey]

very obvious how he does it but he does it better than most peole would ever be able to do it. a true genius.

[@Halobenzene]

Notice how touches her left or right arm at times. It's not just something he does - he's creating an anchor. It seems from this video left arm for certainty and right arm for uncertainty, along with the visual positioning.

[@eatstatic3]

I have a stone that repels lions, and I carry it at all times. I have yet to be attacked by lions. My stone works. Convincing?

[@Starkiller148]

but how does that do w/ the fact that she sees a different color?

[@sashmanv4]

i understand how he made her think of yellow as red but how did he make her think red was black?

[@0xrougamo]

Besides the use of (NLP) anchoring; note that the RED of the couch is reflected by the yellow card (pause the video at 2.33). Very clever of Derren.

[@mewsie80]

this is awesome! derren brown is a true master. this is not the swish pattern though. the swish pattern is similar to a 'map across', taking the submodalities of one state and mapping them into another, while adding movement, 'swishing' the problem state into the outcome state. x

[@oxyharmonic]

Psychologically, This is the most intriguing derren brown thing I've seen... is she still seeing the colours the same, but the words have changed? Or is she somehow seeing the colours differently? If it is just the former, then how come she cannot recognise her car?

[@StephanieConkle]

He sets an anchor of 'dubious belief' when he touches her on the left shoulder and an anchor of 'firm belief' when he touches her on the right shoulder while she visualizes images of her beliefs (his hand leads her eyes to access her right and left cortex of her brain). He reinforces the anchor. Then he "swishes"--pulls over the dubious image into the firm belief mode--as he triggers the anchors. When he changes her beliefs about colors, all he is doing is triggering the anchors he just set.

[@Jay8691x]

@oniluaPogaihT The top right is actually visual remembering. Top left is visual construction.

[@OCULTTA]

This guy is a master of NLP...

[@ArtystaWojciechGlanc]

Do you mean video or audio material???

[@DrNKKK]

It is a swish pattern method in NLP. simply the whole thing starts at the beggining... he anchor(trigger) the state of "not sure about" on her left shoulder and he also anchor(trigger) the "its solid that..." on the right... he uses pattern while he move his hand over sides... that gives actually 'swish pattern' next things was just a shoot off the 1 anchor to "not be sure about that BLUE is BLUE" and fire same on the blue one AND then the second anchor "im sure and its solid that its RED(yelow)

[@dirkeyken]

I don't recall kinetic anchoring in a swish technique

[@kekomigeri]

Outstanding example demonstrated as usual by Derren Brown. However, this would be better described as anchoring. Not Swish. Great vid!

[@ieBrazil]

if you read the entry Derren Brown on Wikipedia, u'll notice that he has some books about this stuff, and also some videos for a selected public... just for experienced magicians and mentalists. also he teaches this kindda thing in other videos, jus like the one named "Derren Brown NLP, which is related to this one (7:14 minutes)...

[@LordEmilous]

@oniluaPogaihT you could always immagine your house or smth... besides, the "looking" thing isn't always right for others.... what I noticed is the shoulder touch... he makes the Swish Pattern and touches her shoulders. When he makes the same for colors, he also touches her shoulders, activating the Swish Pattern... (google swish pattern to understand it) yellow - right shoulder, when he says red (for yellow) - left shoulder.... kinda reprograming the brain

[@phlip1080]

Actually visual cues and eye movement can differ from person to person. though top right is much more common for reconstruction its not exclusive

[@illmaster47]

@oniluaPogaihT She probably only pictured a part of her house which is in Vegas, or her house, but floating in the space of her mind rather than Vegas, but she get's a kinesthetic feeling of certainty know it's her house and it's definitely in Vegas. So the anchor was effective regardless of how she thought of it.

[@dantean]

Fun stuff! He's got his NLP stuff DOWN!!!!

[@adguy10]

I recently bought a book on NLP...but I feel that I am too much of a skeptic for the exercises to work for me...

[@chrispteemagician]

Nice example of Anchoring, you like me, will be impressed too.

[@veronica3001]

wow, I don't really understand though what technigue did he used..? NLP is so amazing!! yet, there maybe negative consequences - which, after we lookback at everything will not appear so important to us anymore, am I not wrong? =)

[@jesshutchy]

guys, look, really look, he associates the "unclear image" with the touching of the left shoulder and vice versa. when he shows her the blue card he touches her left shoulder to unconsciously establish uncertainty in order to manipulate her to see the yellow as red and then, only then does he touch her right shoulder to establish a "solid" picture (solid indicating block colour red) making her see yellow as red and red as black. its not witchcraft, its child psychology and yes, also runs along the same lines as Collapsing Anchors

[@Scott_Alexander]

Id be interested to read what you have wrote!

[@simonjeste]

3:05 Derren was way sneaky the way he switched to the "certainty" anchor and got her to say a yellow card was definitely red. Wow.

[@grymgaming5541]

so thats how he had them pay out on lopsing tickets at the horse races i guess?

[@ttbf]

Swish pattern? Looks more like the Personal Belief Change pattern with some spatial, and kinesthetic, anchoring. Where was the swish?

[@DamonCart]

This is actually NLP Mapping Across, not the NLP Swish Pattern.

[@dallasgangsta187]

what NLP begginer book do yall reccommend??

[@rkullberg]

@oniluaPogaihT Seems to be more like she is checking out the cameraman, since her private information (where do you live) was being recorded.

[@meee223]

Will this work with anyone or just certain people?

[@TheFullyBookedCoach]

Got a link to that story?

[@TimSchikora]

@hossrex: So you did study up on NLP and Hypnosis??? I don't think so. I'm very much into hypnosis and NLP and you wouldn't believe what is possible. Sometimes the possibilities in life are far more complex and rich than they seem when you look at things only on the surface.

[@blackyblackblack505]

Wow amazing stuff

[@Maunakea0]

woah that was amazing!

[@vimisi]

I'll add that it's amazing what people will do to be part of a special group. The "anti-social" behavior of recent years (internet instead of actual talking) has something to do with this... I think these 'subjects' try to fill a void of acceptance within a social group, for lack of belonging to groups. She's playing along.. She is TOTALLY aware of the camera, yet doesn't look at it. A sign of "natural acting" to be accepted as a professional. That body language is her saying "I can do this!"

[@erlendhu]

Someone asked: Why left/right handed. Handedness depends on your brains dominant hemisphere. This is a genetic thing, but is as mentioned, not always expressed in absolut terms. Eye patterns is by no means exact. They differ from person to person, and you can have to get a baseline before using them

[@SquishypuffDave]

It's red... but is it really red?

[@Rupain]

@oniluaPogaihT Sometimes this pattern is switched for a few people, so they use the Right hemisphere for rational thinking while their left is used for Creative thinking. But yeah her eyes move over the horizon extremly.

[@Caleb9849]

I got really thrown off when he said "So what color would you call this" and she just straight-up said "red." Did he drop some subtle hints to make her see red there, or was it simply the conversation about the colors that did it?

[@spinazspinaz]

@davidxrodriguez , david, you just already answered to your own question. what I mean? if your guys allways asks wtf are you doing with touching them, it means that your still didnt managed to direct the attention away. and you just still cant do IT such smoothly with no "misunderstanding" ;)

[@voxkey]

I don't think these same exact results would happen with just anyone else. Possible, but perhaps not even probable. Great demonstration. This is interesting stuff. But seeing red instead of yellow? I think not all people are that suggestable.

[@Dmanlamius76]

He he. Clever. He anchors her at the start, when he's talking about her not being sure about herself, by touching her on the arm. He then uses that same anchor about her not being sure when he's going through the coloured cards, to make her unsure about them...

[@Brewmaster757]

when he makes her imagine the not-definite feeling he touches her left shoulder (00:19), associated the two, and her right shoulder with the definite belief. and at 02:35 says that it is not definitely yellow and touches left shoulder, reminding her of that non-definite feeling, so she doesnt think its definitely yellow, and around 03:00 he has her think that it could be red, and then touches her right shoulder making her think it is definitely red

[@darkness120p]

Where'd you find that? I can't find it anywhere.

[@ttbf]

Plus, I should say spatially (/visual) AND kineasthetic anchoring, thereby covering her most likely preferred modality.

[@joshie92]

notice how he associates uncertainty with him touching her left shoulder and certainty with her right shoulder. also his tone of voice changes when switching from uncertainty to certainty.

[@Od3ri]

@oniluaPogaihT I've heard it's the opposite for left-handed people. Though the way she lies the cards down would suggest that she's right-handed.

[@lostinbrisbane]

hypnopotamus. that is so funny. Derren brown is brilliant. Oh and JohnnyAlpha8, i have seen this shit up close and personal, and it is not fake. Derren is particularly good at it.

[@taugdog211]

This could be true i learned that color interpretation is just what we perceive in our minds a couple days in my psyc class ago thats crazy

[@xxmike505xx]

Anchoring: Notice how he touches her left shoulder when he wants (and convinces) her to feel UNCERTAIN. Then, he touches her right shoulder when he wants her to feel CERTAIN. First he conditions her to his touch as he tells her things that she deems absolutely true (ie, school and home). Then he reinforces that touch by convincing her of things that are questionable (This yellow could be orange). Finally, she is conditioned to his touch and reacts accordingly.

[@angryoldfatman]

"'touching the shoulder' thing" Notice which side he touched. Left side for uncertain/not solid, right side for certain/solid. This is supposedly mapping to the opposite sides of her brain - left side of the brain (right side touch) is analytical/rational, right side of the brain (left side touch) is emotional/irrational. Don't know if it was necessary, he probably could have done his Pavlovian conditioning w/o touching a particular side. Hell, ppl can do it thru TV.

[@chainloader]

@TwistingWays: It is not them that go into trance when you do that...you go into YOUR trance...and if you have rapport with them, they will follow and also go into trance. But if you don't have rapport then you'll just seem weird to them and you'll probably confuse them...which can of course be another opportunity for you to ASSIST them in going into trance. Pace their confusion and desire for something sensible...then give them the most sensible thing to do....SLEEP!!!!

[@koreaFTW]

right hand up is anchoring the whole talk about being uncertain,difficult.. Tap on the left shoulder is to anchor once again and trigger the words itself. same thing with left hand right shoulder only it is certain, clear. now when he tells her the color is not actually blue he does the tap which brings back the feeling of being uncertain and when says yellow is red taps other and there u go, she now CLEARLY knows its red and shes CERTAIN about it =) surprised how he pulls it off with his accent

[@koreaFTW]

the hands are anchoring shoulder not sure.. maybe also part of anchoring

[@velocity210]

@oniluaPogaihT yes it could be fake. If she is left handed though, the eye patterns tend to change sides

[@MatejIlicBuljan]

this is unbelivable

[@c4mitchell]

@oniluaPogaihT Depends on if youre left or right handed.

[@chuyjoel]

@T3rraBahamut dang dude that was a good one

[@locksfamily]

Ok I need to do that to myself and put "finish MBA" in the "easy to do" category.

[@KarloTheGuitarist]

what does the word NLP mean? o.O sorry for asking... I just don't know.. In my country NLP means "Neznani Leteči Predmet" which means UFO (unknown flying object) lol:D

[@faridsim]

The technique he's using is described in Persuasion Engineering by Richard Bandler.

[@bobflet]

WOW. Simple shoulder touching...

[@fluffychicken33]

Easy To Know What Color Car She Had. Probably Saw Her Earlier Getting Out Of It Then Chose Her For The Trick. Pretty Sweet Actually. I Kinda Understand How Its Done But I Don't Think I Could Pull It Off

[@Interstate08]

that guy is awesome

[@ericemh]

You did get this right but you reversed the uncertainty/certainty shoulders watch again its her left shoulder uncertainty and right certainty...simple anchoring then suggestion linked to it.... making her "certain" that yellow is red like she is certain where she lives