Filming With Derren Brown - What Really Happened...

[@alexmontanus]

Derren: “Take maybe three big scoops of coffee…..” James: “HOW MANY GRAMS?!?!?!”

[@AlexMiller-sd5vk]

"Darren, we have to keep the coffee ratio! Is this a light roast or a dark roast? That changes the ratio, Darren!"

[@The.Doctor.6149]

Derren* - don’t let spellcheck ruin your ability to proofread too! 😉👍

[@danrazzaia3152]

KZbin took me down a Derren Brown rabbit hole that lasted a solid 2 weeks. So much fun.

[@jiyuandong8964]

Me too lmao

[@ShutUpAndShootMe]

Very normal.

[@BitcoinMotorist]

I did the same thing in 2007

[@supernoodle704]

Dan Razzaia wow, same- only it was ages ago. It ended with the Zombie Video.

[@Cookberg]

I’m currently in that same rabbit hole. It’s extra awesome because I’m American and nobody here knows who the hell Derren Brown is

[@MistressHavok]

I always thought you were ageless, but honestly now I'm just more confused.

[@ramyshaalan53]

40

[@system-error]

He looks about 400 years older now, he looks like Dracula

[@pegleg2959]

If you squint slightly, he looked like a lesbian when he was younger. Tbh he still looks a bit like a lesbian, but less so.

[@__-fm5qv]

@@ramyshaalan53 wait, he's 40?? Bloody hell, I look older and I'm 25...

[@IamArroyo]

That flick the bean joke was a good one.

[@hvy_mtl_drmr9563]

@Joey K I guess I would say look it up but do so at your own risk. Let's just say it's a bit NSFW

[@mrm5183]

Joey K Don’t know wether you’re being serious or not or maybe just not English so I will explain. “Flicking the bean” in this instance the word bean refers to the clitoris. Derren Brown is gay hence why he said “ that would be a first”

[@yvonnesanders4308]

Guarantee Derren Brown knows nothing about flicking beans

[@leonakadir3833]

@@mrm5183 that doesn't really explain it... its quite a specific thing relating to the clitoris..

[@nathanduarte_]

@@yvonnesanders4308 lol that's why he said "that would be a first"

[@2buxaslice]

I love Derren Brown and I've watched him for twenty years, but now after the flick the bean reference, it makes me want to go back and watch all of his stuff before he came out to see how often he snuck little jokes like that into his shows.

[@Roadent1241]

2buxaslice He's been going for that long? Nearly my entire life? Wow, to think I only found out about him through the Putting Someone In A Zombie Game Video about 15 years ago.

[@gomezthechimp1116]

Well the classic one was when he was talking to 3 middle-aged women. He showed them an open box with an engagement ring in it. His question was, "would any of you ladies like a finger ring?"

[@michaellavery4899]

@@gomezthechimp1116 One of those tricks that sound really clever till you think about it. Even if it was a group of men most would be appreciative of a finger ring.

[@TheMagicPrick]

The episode where he has a woman separate photos of people and later finds out the two piles are of living and dead, he says "That is out of this world." Magicians will enjoy that hidden joke.

[@nifralo2752]

Brown seems to fancy the barefoot boy in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIm4qmeLYrNmhbs

[@nyan2317]

Don't beat yourself up like that, James. You didn't look as ridiculous as your WBC getup.

[@darkpatches]

So, there's your old hair, then you saw There's Something About Mary, now there's your new hair.

[@doryman3]

Yep, have agree. Not bad hair...just a young coffee geek. 🙂

[@discovery91]

I want to meet a person who doesn’t think he/she looked weird 15 years ago.

[@darkpatches]

@@discovery91 This is generally true, especially if you're 15. But if you were in the military 15 years ago, you'd most likely be fitter, trimmer and have a historically normalized haircut.

[@michaellavery4899]

I think the young you looked better.

[@ShannonPowers]

I'm studying, so I'm not constantly looking at the screen. When I heard "flick the bean off" and I didn't hear and immediate reaction from you I looked at the screen and I saw you looking at us XD You did not disappoint

[@roldarnesen5767]

Lol. Don't know what you have against the looks of younger you, you're fine. -- James, just wanted to express appreciation. These videos are more than a great source of information and instruction; you bring a lightness, a smile, and a reminder of just why we enjoy the...simple pleasures of this culture so much.

[@teabagfc]

James "good sized hand" Hoffmann

[@ayapotato7429]

Was expecting that comment :D

[@thermalegoogle]

AKA James “Reasonably Large Hands” Hoffmann

[@GaggiaUkElland]

Hello James, I fondly remember the time you worked with us at Gaggia and I am always proud to say that you started your career in coffee with us. Lovely to see the Gaggia images on your interesting video. I think Dr Espresso, in London, may have some of the collection. We have a couple of the 50's machines in our Gaggia Shops. During this difficult times, I am sure coffee brings a moment of satisfaction. I am missing my community of coffee lovers, as I stay at home, rather than my usual time spent with them at a coffee morning in Huddersfield, UK, making lots of coffee at our church centre. Raj Beadle, MD Gaggia UK.

[@gurug9797]

I bet all ex employees don't get this kind of message but they aren't 'famous'

[@justaguydoingdiy7975]

Never miss an opportunity to sell yourself!

[@mckw3096]

Comme t should have ended after "interesting video". I think everyone would have appreciated the comment from the brand. The rest comes across as shameless advertising.

[@PietroShitzberg]

Gary Williams UK how would they? Is he going to write letters to them via the newspaper?

[@13gan]

@@mckw3096 Part of the video is about the Coffee Museum and its collection, so the comment about old espresso machine is relevant, especially to those who are interested in that area. Also, it think its mostly a msg for James, else he wouldn't put his own name there.

[@agarqueen9126]

So cool to see you again after all that time! A very handsome man 😍

[@parsia1363]

Watching this with my wife and she says: "you were cute then and you look dashing now"! I'm a bit jealous now

[@samroe4294]

I don't know if I've ever seen a person who has aged better than James

[@CopsSuck666]

This is particularly funny to me because both James and Derren visited the cafe where I work, which is thousands of miles away from the UK, a yearish ago. Two of my favourite personal icons I've had the pleasure of serving.

[@clarewillison9379]

That beans pun was just a psychological trick to grind you down.😬

[@sotnoscopes]

it was just a mild roast

[@johnnycalvino7490]

I see what you did there 😀

[@traal]

I didn’t hear the bean joke everyone is referring to. I’m guessing the language was too coarse, so it was blocked by my coffee filter. 😁

[@sotnoscopes]

@@traal Thats fine with me, we can use another medium of coarse. Perhaps we have ground this joke too far but I am not bitter.

[@JorickTube]

I don't even get the pun :'(

[@user82938]

I remember seeing this back in the day, but I had long forgotten it and didn't know that it was James who was the mark for this trick.

[@flrn84791]

I'm not sure what people expect, but as good as Derren is, one has to remember that it's still TV :)

[@chalkchalkson5639]

Both the tricks brown performed are variations on really cool mirror tricks. I know that you can do the one shown in the video with any round-ish object that lies reasonably flat on a surface (so coffee is a great candidate), that might also explain the suggestion to pick a different bean, if you pick one that's too flat on the round side it might now work. The one you described has a lot of popular variations and usually works with angled mirrors in the ceiling, but can also be done with cameras. It's a super popular method to cheat stuff like people picking an object, writing stuff, etc while the magician is away. If you know how large the tray is compared to your cel sheet it's not crazy hard. The difficult part is always looking at the mirror/screen discretely.

[@maninalift]

Derren does that distinctive action when he's "concentrating" or "not looking" of looking to one side and holding a flat hand up to the side of his head, which gives a great cover for leisurely peeking at something that is out of the view of the audience and hinding his eyes while he does so

[@stuartmcconnachie]

If there’s a bright light shining on the tray (not hard to arrange in a studio environment) then you can easily get an image of the locations of the beans “projected” via a mirror somewhere else in the room. Sort of like how you get a round spot reflected from your watch face and can angle it around in bright sunlight. Then just mark out the locations on the transparency placed over the reflected image. Much easier than looking at a screen and estimating positions. ;) Not sure about the single mistake. Perhaps it’s a ruse to move onto the second, less impressive, trick? Then you’re less suspicious as to why that trick wasn’t used in the final edit. Perhaps he’d used that illusion, or one similar to it, previously on the show and so didn’t want to repeat it?

[@IRVisionPrints]

I watched that when it aired, I’ve watched it several times since...... I never ever would have guessed that’s you! 😱

[@jonnyclark1916]

His introductions of Squarespace as a sponsor just get smoother and smoother

[@Roaster-Hanford]

Haha great video. I was meant to be seeing Derren Brown in Southend this year but we will see. I’ve been pulled up on stage on the miracle tour, it was weird and bizarre. Thanks for all the great videos as always. With everything going on I think everyone one needs something to bring the mood up. Good work!👍

[@JulieWallis1963]

I was booked to see him last year too, it was rescheduled for this year but now re rescheduled for 2022. Fingers crossed eh.

[@WeAreSoPredictable]

5:57 _"There's just no way to trick that. You can't fake it. The only way you can do that, in those circumstances with me watching, is to remember the position of every bean on that tray."_ And this perfectly illustrates what's so awesome about magic. :)

[@GlennDavey]

Yeah, because there was absolutely no memory involved here. It's 100% sleight of hand. Poor gullible James

[@pvrhye]

@@GlennDavey I'd wager his little picture frame maneuver can hide a fair bit.

[@krisgrainger5770]

I had no idea the museum was gone. I have very fond memories of that place, tea to the left, coffee to the right.

[@jameshoffmann]

It was weird and great. I did have a flight of fancy around trying to find a way to buy the collection but I never had the money or a place to put it!

[@krisgrainger5770]

@@jameshoffmann Some of those old machines, from hotels, with the eagles on the top were magnificent. The only other place I saw one of those working was in the lobby of The Millennium Hilton before it was destroyed on 9/11. It was a step through the history of machine design. I hope one day they'll be on display again.

[@CatnamedMittens]

Tea master race

[@Dinckelburg]

Here I am, stuck in the middle with you

[@krisgrainger5770]

@@Dinckelburg stuck in the middle with brew!

[@dfpguitar]

the switcheroo of reactions is something the Derren Brown shows and David Blaine were absolutely prolific with. Every other shot was a switched reaction. It was also very clear that they shot the same "tricks" multiple times with varied participants and then picked out whoever responded the best. That is absolutely critical with mentalism & hypnotism type stuff as some people respond perfectly and others don't. It's actually a trait embedded into the core of the cognition for most of us to look around and follow others, especially those with perceived authorities for clues when we find ourselves suddenly In an unknown confusing & disorientating situation. Most of us are also conditioned to follow the expectations of the people and world around us. That's how most of the mentalism & hypnotism stuff works. A man with a suit tells you to sleep in front of an expectant audience and by golly you sleep. But the level at which people do it and how entertaining they are varies, especially in the derren brown shows where they were often on their own, blindfolded and such. So you really need to pick out the best performers and chop & splice reactions. You are lucky you weren't forced into something more ominous.

[@jedsithor]

I remember reading or hearing something about Blaine's levitation trick, where all he was doing was going up on one foot and from a certain angle it looked like he was levitating. Anyone watching from the right angle would give a genuine reaction but of course everyone else would just see him going up on one foot. He'd then shoot the trick with him being lifted so that both feet are off the ground and then intercut that footage with the genuine reactions from earlier.

[@Lady-Seashell-Bikini]

And this is why I enjoy his live performances more. If the trick doesn't work, he's still entertaining enough to keep the show flowing without feeling cheated. With TV, you kind of have to edit stuff because you don't have as large a crowd to choose the right participants.

[@alanredversangel]

I got given a Gaggia classic for free and I've been cleaning it and replacing parts ever since and with every change I get a little bit closer to the perfect coffee. Love it.

[@Mpayne]

I'm glad this video is doing the rounds again. It's an incredible story, love hearing it ☺️

[@MattDriiiver]

If anyone is wondering, I counted the beans at 11:16 and I got around 680ish. Hard to tell exactly because some are stacked and it's dark in some areas. Picking one out of 1347 sounds more impressive though.

[@mira-sturdivant]

thank you (3 years later)

[@cuttie1427]

Yes, thanks again 😊

[@maxington26]

more belated thanks. I guessed

[@youtubeAIDigitalContentCreator]

Darren simply picked out the bean he put there while everyone was distracted and mis directed. Most magic is done with pre prep work.

[@astroadventures3559]

I've been watching Darren brown for years and I have learned so much about psychology more than anything. He is a master of his craft. Thanks for the video bud.

[@TheAlfsterino]

There's a certain amount of psychology and how humans react that you can help to influence a trick...however, I know what you mean...all magic is a trick, tricks are magic...it all depends how ethical or unethical (*cough* Dynamo*cough*) you want to be on TV to create an 'illusion'.

[@ElphabaRaine]

He's made quite a few TV Episodes based on the use of suggestion/hypnosis etc psychological techniques.

[@RaveyDavey]

@@ElphabaRaine He made a few TV shows and has done a lot of tricks that purport to be done via "psychological techniques" that aren't but are good magic tricks.

[@FordyHunt]

I've seen Derren Brown live, he's a legend. Shame we don't see him so much nowadays.

[@scubagrace]

He's not on TV that much but he was supposed to be doing a big UK tour before COVID hit 🙆‍♀️

[@violetviolet888]

He's on Netflix.

[@JulieWallis1963]

He’s still touring. I’m seeing him next year 2022 but that’s a rescheduled show that was cancelled in 2020 and 2021.

[@flrn84791]

Still touring, his latest show is now also on channel 4

[@Android480]

This dude aged like fine wine. In 13 years I'm going to look like a nightmare.

[@makaylaprince2515]

I was thinking the same! I love his gray hair. He totally looks like a guy who’s a coffee expert

[@joelmontesdeoca6572]

For the first trick, there's the possibility that Derren used a combination of cameras and screen/projectors. Let me explain, you throw the beans down on the tray and an over head camera takes a photo. Derren walks away to where the paper lays. There's a screen/projection of the image underneath the paper showing a faint image of the beans and Derren proceeds to trace the locations of the beans.

[@nadn2504]

Your videos brighten my days! Thank you.

[@TimucinLeflef]

FYI: You didn't look ridiculous back then.

[@ArtOnion]

This is a crossover I wouldn’t have dared dreaming of in my wildest imagination!

[@film_magician]

I'm a hobbiest magician myself, can't believe you've did a video with him. Two of my worlds colliding. Love this. I don't think camera tricks or edits are fair for magic tricks at all. Thanks for doing this video. That bean looked a little taller than the rest. Either way, this was a great video. Thanks again!

[@TM1Alan]

I've always had a very hard time with televised magic. For this very reason. Editing.

[@analogdistortion]

I used to be a big DB fan until his russian roulette show got exposed. Then I had to question everything and ended up having to factor in camera trickery which could have made any of his tricks possible so now I feel nothing for him and his tricks anymore. Quite a shame really. I think I'd have preferred to have been left out of the know so I could still believe it all.

[@cipherhex]

@@analogdistortion That's why you got to see him live. That plus the atmosphere makes it a brilliant experience

[@jmillward]

@@analogdistortion In what way do you feel it was 'exposed'? And how did that ruin him for you?

[@a.j.atkinsonart1082]

Just an extension of stage magic, restricted view and faster scene changes with the ability to rearange the scene sequence, Greater control plus a wider audience which can lead to more financial profit.

[@aliensoup2420]

@Darren Gregg Yeah, the moment he resorts to camera and editing tricks he's lost me. If I want to see visual effects 'magic', I'll just watch a Marvel Comics movie.

[@WujiErTaiji]

Getting it slightly wrong is a classic Derren Brown/Magic thing to make it more believable. Although he has done some legit memorizing acts.

[@aliensoup2420]

So you're telling us that television shows are guilty of editing - not a grand revelation there. So they used a different facial reaction to that trick. At least they didn't alter the trick in editing. I don't appreciate his edited shows as much as his live stage shows. I've caught a few 'embellishments' on his edited shows that betray his supposed trickery - basically cheating the cheat. (The art gallery heist) It's clever if you can fool an audience through actual misdirection and suggestion, but doing it in editing isn't clever, it's just creating fictional entertainment.

[@ifyouloveChristyouwillobeyhim]

They DID edit the trick when you consider that the trick was PRESENTED as a "pick a bean any bean" trick when in reality it was a "pick a bean, no not that bean, preferably a bean like I dunno, say, this one" trick.

[@dalelc43]

Oh no fictional entertainment on TV and I thought all TV was real? 🙄

[@RaveyDavey]

Interesting to see the difference between what we see on the TV and what really happens. Him not allowing you to pick a bean at random, as is portrayed, changes everything. All it needs is a secret mark on it. Could easily be chipped or magnetic, allowing him to narrow down where it is trivially with a detector in his sleeve and then allow him to look for the little mark on it. I saw his live show and I remember thinking that whilst it was brilliant, it was nowhere near as astounding as the TV shows were....because they're tricking the viewer constantly as to what really happens.

[@dalelc43]

A magnet in your sleeve? Magic tricks aren't done with dumb luck, that has disaster written all over it. 🤣🤣 ... Just ignore the fact the bean flew into my sleeve, I um made it do that.... yes that's it.

[@RaveyDavey]

@@dalelc43 Dale, you're literally laughing at your own inability to read properly LOL Read my comment again. I didn't say a magnet in your sleeve. I said a DETECTOR in your sleeve. They're electronic devices sold in magic shops and can detect a tiny magnet embedded in objects from a distance of some inches. They are commonly used in "guess which hand" tricks (something Derren was also famous for...co-incidentally) and used in far more subtle applications in mentalism. It would enable you to narrow down the area of the tray very significantly making it much easier to find the mark. Why do YOU think he made him use a bean that the production team supplied? I don't know if this is the method but it could be - certainly would explain the BS framing gestures he was using to find it. Point is, Derren forced James to use a specific bean for a reason and that reason is that the bean is easy to find. There is a ton of mentalism technology out there that make this sort of effect child's play.

[@Safetytrousers]

All TV is artifice. Magic is all about presentation.

[@hadrian2]

Yesterday while I was washing my Aeropress I thought: James Hoffmann never tell his thoughts about cleanIng coffee instruments. I mean, better clean your V60 on hot water or dish soap? Is hot water effective to eliminate coffee oils? Or which dish soap taste less on your coffee? (I was worried about the last one for months). Always funny to watch you CoronaVideos-19!

[@DanaBonn]

Hadrian Right? What the heck counts as “mild dish soap” anyway?

[@ximono]

@@DanaBonn You have to sow, grow and harvest soapwort, boil it in water to extract its saponins and finally let it cool down to 37°C before using it to carefully clean your V60.

[@Fridelain]

Boiling bleach will make a stainless steel moka pot look brand new. just fill the deposit as you would for making a coffee cup and pretend make one with the extractor hood on. Also good for cleaning the bottoms of pots and pans, and residue that won't come off scrubbing on the inside. You can put gloves on, soak a kitchen sponge with the warm bleach and gently scrub them.

[@mikenickel373]

This is the first video I've seen of yours James. As a Darren Brown fan myself, I appreciate the insight into his show.

[@colovion]

"I have a good sized hand." - James Hoffmann 2020

[@dopestshizever]

It’s very funny, I introduced his work to a lot of my friends in the states... I missed him when he came to New York last year, so I guess I have to stick to the internet and Netflix now... one day I’ll make it over there. Lol! I’ve also been a fan of his for a very long time and had a modest collection until some things were taken from me.. Im suprised this video is still up though because he’s been able to keep a lot of things off the internet for years.. but I like this video! Have a great day

[@L0g1kk_]

For the first trick: note that everything is being filmed, because they are making a television programme, so when you scatter the beans, that is all filmed by the cameras. Then all Derren needs is a monitor hidden away somewhere where the image of the scattered beans is displayed, and he traces their positions.

[@RadioJonophone]

The surface he marks is transparent, the support for the plastic sheet is an LCD display made to look like a clipboard. The image from the camera is beamed to the display so he can mark the position of the beans. When he is finished, the display is set to look like an ordinary clipboard so if you peek it (and to be sure he will allow that) it looks kosher.

[@user-te1le7ck6b]

Hoffman the last guy I thought who’d be taken in by a conman but hey it’s entertainment right

[@otto_jk]

@@RadioJonophone but why he would make a mistake if that's how the trick was done

[@bodhid]

@@otto_jk To make it more credible perhaps?

[@otto_jk]

@@bodhid but it didn't make it more credible because they had to cut it from TV

[@chelfyn]

I met Derren years ago when I lived in Bristol, just before he got famous. He did some close-up at a party at my house. Years later I got the Devils Picturebook and was amazed when he fully described an amzing multi-part trick for 3 people that he had fooled me with all those years ago.

[@lauralittle6021]

I’m meant to be seeing ‘Showman’ (his live performance) in July, just hoping it isn’t cancelled!

[@lucasmano8187]

I had a ticket for Showman's debut in April but it was cancelled :( , Hope they reschedule

[@JackSinister]

Me too in July, also!

[@benhutchings8047]

It will be

[@hd33444]

Me too, it's been rescheduled to September.. got an email 2 days ago

[@wilfgordon7704]

I’ve got tickets as well and it’s been rescheduled to 2021

[@aliabdaal]

OMG You watched the devil’s picturebook as well?? I stumbled across it a few years ago when I was super into magic, absolutely loved it

[@TheMorenoZanardi]

A random Ali Abdaal comment with less than 40 likes and no reply? Interesting

[@ImBarryScottCSS]

@@TheMorenoZanardi vewwwwy interesting

[@lisama2748]

omg cant believe i met Ali's comment while searching random video

[@brianc7408]

@@oldroanio5631 it's a unit of measurement for productivity.

[@YoungManDub]

No idea who this person is, but his last 5 video titles and the amount of subs is the problem with KZbin nowadays

[@mojitofall5441]

So, you confirmed that his memory is real.

[@bfkc111]

Didn't need him, there is plenty of confirmation of all kinds of stuff of his around.

[@murataht]

Yes James, keep up the hope during this difficult time ! All thé best and looking foward to more vidéos !

[@Thetache]

I am a fan too and was rejected from being a patsy at his live show, he shook my hand stared into my eyes and said "It won't work on you". Your explanation is a perfect example of the "manipulation" of "reality" TV. The end product has to work so they have to "adjust" the footage to suit.

[@2msvalkyrie529]

And yet loads of idiots proclaiming : Wow ! ! It's amazing !! How does he do it....etc etc....Yawn..

[@AuraMaster7]

So, the lesson of the day: If you're going to try and re-upload a magic trick clip to KZbin to capitalize on the appearance of a reasonably popular current internet celebrity, *DONT* do it with a trick where you fudged the reaction shot.

[@AndyK.1]

That does leave many others to choose from 😂

[@bodaddy3637]

Just a thought - but was the extra bean that he drew on the plastic sheet in the first trick in the same place as where you put the bean in the second trick? Usually when there is a preceding trick, with similar props and ideas, it sets up a force for a following trick.

[@mariazelekova2315]

good idea! DB often uses power of suggestion.

[@rickastley885]

The Devil's Picturebook pops up on eBay every now and again. His books, Pure Effect and Absolute Magic are a bit rarer. I'm another self-confessed Derren Brown fanboy

[@forte210392]

Proud owner of all 3 :D

[@janeriklarsen6748]

There are Magic shops Who still have The Devil’s picturebook since it have been re-released 😊

[@TheAlfsterino]

I got Picture Book and Absolute Magic off his website and Pure Effect (2nd edition - he removed one trick from the first edition as it was viewed 'too strong') was given to me.

[@simonday9013]

I have both books. Can't believe how much they've increased in value. Trouble is they are very specialised. Makes them surprisingly difficult to sell.

[@prawnee9827]

The Devils Picturebook has been re-released over the last couple of years by Vanishing Inc.

[@DaveLennonCopeland]

The first time I saw Derren (on TV) was at the dog track pay window... been a fan ever since.

[@BAAAASJE]

Got your book for my birthday this week, absolutely love it!

[@howardsternisbatman]

Don't watch Criss Angel then, all he ever does is camera edits with stooges.

[@SuperRand13]

Honestly, Criss Angel is great to kill some time, i find it hilarious how obviously faked it is.

[@inasterisms]

I saw him in Vegas and was pleasantly surprised because I remember a very edited tv show.

[@scaredyfish]

My first thought about the first trick was that they had a camera looking at the tray, projecting it onto the plastic in a way you couldn’t see, but Derren could. Then in the actual footage, they demonstrated they did have a camera looking at the tray the whole time at the exact angle they would need to do that.

[@PBMS123]

yeah, it defniitely wasn't memory, to get the scale and angle correct of every bean would be impossible, no matter how good your memory is. They definitely had a screen in the floor or something, so that when you look through the plastic, it covers the plastic.

[@MrJayehawk]

How the hell long ago was this special? James looks like he's his own dad now.

[@mrm5183]

Well 2007 dummy 🥴 do you not listen?

[@thevitalityproject]

@@mrm5183 *2004 :)

[@redelfshotthefood8213]

16 years will do that.

[@kozstandsya1494]

@@thevitalityproject thought he said 13 years ago dude

[@FSR2007]

Thanks for a lovely video that took me away from the world for a bit :)

[@Acontinouslean]

I've never heard of him , but this was entertaining

[@askroller]

m leberman you would definitely spend hours watching him!) Let’s try TED first

[@RawkusRooster]

There’s loads of stuff by him on KZbin - check out his live shows they are amazing

[@jeyjey5741]

Love these little "behind the veil" videos. Good job

[@duffman18]

It's such a trip to realise I watched you like 16-17 years ago on TV and then later subscribed to your KZbin channel. I was just a kid back then but also a derren brown mega fan. And still am. I've read his books too

[@sboosh38]

I gather Derren looked for the beans that were lying perfectly flat and face up. He only had to memorise those beans, which were probably only a few on the whole tray.. He then asked James to place his bean on the tray but obviously 'face up' so not to show the cross underneath. Derren only had to spot that bean.

[@TheSometimeAfter]

Actually Derren memorized the absence of everything that wasn't a bean. So when a bean turned up in the space he'd remembered was empty he instantly recognized there was a bean there.

[@solution777]

ooh finally, someone who actually knows something about coffee! Informative and entertaining, will be binging out on your videos all over this lockdown! Thanks and keep it coming :)

[@SidBonkers51]

Of course he cheated it, he's a magician.

[@richardhagen9043]

Not always the case. Some times magicians do what they say and don't cheat. David Blain have plenty of tricks like that

[@mrman-yj3bn]

@@richardhagen9043 oof

[@daveshep]

The last Broadway show I saw before the covid lockdown (as someone who sees at least a couple or three such shows a year) was Derren’s show “Secret.” It blew my mind, of course, but it will also remain one of my fondest memories of life in the Before Times. Alas, I haven’t been to any live theatre since then. Thanks for this video, James.

[@windowdoog]

The funniest part of this video is how British it is that he considers that a massive reaction.

[@mscoop74]

I now totally understand how you got people buying a coffee machine, probably without them realising they even needed one. This is why you're the Coffee Master. x🙂

[@JohnDoe-jp5py]

8:42 James Hoffman, serial bean flicker??

[@leopoldbloom4835]

First time I had to consult the Urban Dictionary to get a James Hoffman reference.

[@markrichley4075]

The magic of TV for effect. I was once filmed for Japanese news, and they chopped up some of my sentences to make me say something I didn’t!

[@lepolygone3305]

It took my about 1 nanosecond to figure out the bean counting trick; 1 overhead camera (over the bean tray), 1 tv monitor hidden from view with the said camera feed (zoomed-in for a 1:1 scale), 1 clear plexi sheet to trace over the beans configuration. That's it, trick solved.

[@kochevar99]

This would make sense, but he got it wrong. That is why they had to do the second trick.

[@samw1501]

@@kochevar99 maybe... Or maybe he deliberately got it wrong to justify the trick they actually wanted to film, knowing they would get an extra reaction to film. And knowing that a minor mistake makes it more convincing. Sounds kinda convoluted I know, bit isn't that to be expected? They have always gone to more trouble than you think they would.

[@TheAlfsterino]

Exactly...although I only hinted at the method as it 'spoils the magic' for some people, and getting the first one wrong 'slightly' was a 'seller' for the second trick which has a totally different method - the way I would do it I'll not give away as it gives away a certain 'prop' used in many tricks like this one.

[@glenbrighton3519]

Hello James, it was great to share the programme with you. Though of course we never met!

[@andydragonfisher6900]

I remember seeing Derren perform at a magician's convention in London before he broke out with his first TV show - what he performed meant that for a few minutes, I experienced genuine wonder. There are a lot of magicians who are numb to that experience - a professional malaise that comes from learning the tricks of the trade - it was such a special moment to find myself wondering if he was 'the real thing'! A great performer and Andy is a creative powerforce too.

[@flrn84791]

Have you read pure effect and absolute magic? What he talks about in them explains how he achieved and still does achieve wonder like that :)

[@andydragonfisher6900]

@@flrn84791 yep read and own them both - very good books 👍

[@NeonPixels81]

I feel like the "trick" is Derren Brown just has a picture-perfect photographic memory, kindof like Marilu Henner, but unlike her he just doesn't trumpet it around. The "chess master" trick convinced me this is the case. Anyone who can remember six to eight different board states simultaneously while also actively playing those board states definitely has powers of recollection that are far beyond normal people.

[@stupidas9466]

Either you're correct and he has a memory like no other on the planet like you propose, or he does a magic trick that most capable magicians can easily do once they are made aware or figure out the method used. Hmm, which is more likely, you got fooled by a magic trick because you are unfamiliar with the process, or someone really is "magic”.

[@NeonPixels81]

@@stupidas9466 I didn't suggest he was "magic", and there are people with literally picture perfect memories. Not sure what you're disagreeing with here.

[@charliebrown4624]

Of course he cheated it, that is what Derren Brown is all about. That's his point, it's not magic, it's a trick. As for cutting in a different reaction, well that's television, why wouldn't you use the best shot you've got?

[@grandarchon6969]

the only time it's unethical is when they ask a question to an interviewee, and then put the response to a different question in. Often, making the interviewee shown in a negative way. Usually this happens when the corporate press interview political people, usually their opposition.

[@sleightlyperfection93]

With Derren, it is not always a trick... this is coming form a magician.

[@basvopheusden]

Kind of ironic to edit to James saying "you can't cheat that", while you're cheating during the editing process :p

[@andyharpist2938]

@@basvopheusden Its magic so everything is allowed. The trouble with TV is that its so fake anyway and we know it.. there's edits and splicing and simple lying...Magic surely has to be live for it to work.

[@ah1785]

not a magician, lover of Derren (among others). Can you explain what you mean?

[@docdoc]

This guy helps me feel positive about my own perfectionism, OCD = quality

[@seadawg93]

Penn Jillette makes fun of tv magic shows and how they say there are no camera tricks. He says something like; “It’s true, no camera tricks ...loooottts of editing tricks though!”🤣🤣🤣

[@SocksAndPuppets]

I think the way I'd do the first trick, is I'd build a special "clipboard" for making my marks, and the clipboard would be an Ipad showing the tray, photographed from above - then all I need to do is draw around every bean on the ipad. The tray was about the same size as an ipad after all. For the second trick, it sort of looks like he's looking down at something that's out of shot, and maybe not visible to you. If he has a live video feed of what you're doing from above, that you can't see, all he has to do is watch you place the bean, and then he knows where it is.

[@itsviney]

I'm curious now. Why not set-up the second trick yourself at home and see if you can actually do it? Would make for a good video either way! :)

[@reggiedixon2]

When we got to the "flick a bean off" gag I recalled seeing this show when it was originally shown and I immediately guessed this was him foreshadowing.

[@Author-dad-veteran]

Can I just say, I clicked as I’m a DB fan so the KZbin algorithm and COVID quarantine conspired against me. I don’t even drink coffee, but that was hugely entertaining. You have an incredible way of presenting, I hope you have a series where you just explain stuff we thought we knew ... 🤞🏻

[@jamieruwen4204]

that “flick the bean off” part caught me so off guard, there are laughter tears in my eyes

[@davidsteiner5041]

Just got your book! It is amazing. Really like the design and the content!

[@BardCanning]

Method for the first trick that they didn't show: since they were filming the beans on the tray that they just took a screenshot of their position from the video feed, printed it out and put it on the clipboard before handing it to Derren. Then he just quickly traced the printout.

[@TheAlfsterino]

There's an even easy way without having to print it out but it does involve tracing as you say. He's an accomplished painter so tracing will be easy for him.

[@bryankilvinski]

Thanks for posting this. Your experience correlates with another trick he did at an advertising agency where I used to work. I wasn't in it but I knew the guys who were. When I spoke to them they stated that the sequence of events was heavily edited in Derren's favor to make it look like more of a trick. I do like Derren Brown and I like his tricks, but it became more obvious to me how a lot of the "tricks" are done and how they come out in the edit.

[@EdwardIglesias]

Went through the drive through of a local coffee roaster / coffee house today. Felt good.

[@scroogemcduck1462]

Question: Did you place the bean roughly where he'd marked the extra bean from the previous trick?

[@beeb6730]

That would be such a cool force

[@p0esbek]

I’ve only recently discovered your videos about a year ago. I remember this clip but I don’t remember it being you! What a blast from the past.

[@askroller]

WHAAAT! James and Derren!

[@LFCliid]

You say you look ridiculous back then (I don’t think you do tbh) but the thing I found funny is that you literally look the same now but with grey hair! 😂 Great video and what an experience you had

[@diegoalachiste]

It can be said, that Darren didn’t necessarily had to remember the position of all beans. With the right colour contrast and light settings, the image reappears in your retina for a few seconds. You just need to look at something with high contrast for a while (10 s) and then look at a surface with the negative colour of what you just saw. The image can get very clear. Then quickly draw what you see and off you go.

[@photoeducationbydaniel]

Wow that's awesome. It's a twist! Came here thinking it was one of those moments of a bad experience but this turned out for once being the opposite but a pleasant result. When you see "What really happened" you get the instant impression that it was perhaps a bad experience

[@Chriswsm]

A potential way the first trick was carried out is as follows assuming two things: The location of the metal tray was predetermined You did not get chance to inspect the area where Derren was drawing the location of the coffee beans at the time he was doing the drawing (any point where you cannot directly scrutinize the magician is suspect) The tray could have been doctored or a heat sensitive camera could have been looking at the tray in such a way that heat differences could be detected between the material of the tray and the coffee beans. This image or heat map was sent to the Magician's location and displayed either by very faint projector or a concealed screen or possibly upwards on to the surface he was drawing on so he could effectively trace the coffee bean locations. An artefact on the tray or the area where he was drawing could therefore account for the extra bean in the drawing. This is how I would do it. No way to be certain but it's not a terribly difficult trick.

[@yinoveryang4246]

Yes that's how it was done, faint projector or something. A Straightforward camera shot of the beans from above is my guess. They had prepped the location, even though it may have seemed deliberately very random, with psychological tricks to unsettle him.

[@oemorgan]

I was working for Gaggia at the same time, you're so right that system worked. I worked the Norwich outlet. One of the easiest sales jobs ever. Sad that Gaggia couldn't hold it's brand. I think we met at training in Halifax once. Love your channel!

[@robertmugabe9315]

World atlas is coffee is an excellent book, as are your tutorials. I also recently purchased some filter roast from square mile which is also excellent! Please could you delve into espresso/grinder setups at different price points, perhaps even including some manual machines ( great value given their ability to vary brew pressure at much lower price points) Thanks!

[@frankshailes3205]

I'm a tea drinker (boo!) but I really enjoyed your video. And I love Derren Brown. Thank you!

[@darrenpayne150]

I saw Derren live doing his 'Showman' stage show. It totally blew my mind, if you saw the TV version of that show, I was affected by the 3 second memory erase. I don't want to give much away incase you want to go watch it but it totally left me shaken and confused as to how it had happened. Incredible experience!

[@Romanplaystation]

I think I saw that one on TV. Was it the one where afterwards, outside, they interviewed members of the audience, asking them what their favourite bit was, and none of them could remember? The crazy thing about that was, I laughed for about one second, until I realised that I couldnt remember anything from the show either. Freaked me right out, lol.

[@darrenpayne150]

@@Romanplaystation could be the one yeah. Basically he was demonstrating how he could get a guy to place a playing card into a box and not remember doing it. Then eventually Derren himself took a card across the stage to put it into a box while counting to five. Most of the audience then didn't remember it happening. All I remember is hearing Derren count, "1, 2... 5". Then at the end of the show he showed the video of him moving across the stage while counting 3 and 4 but I had no memory of it at all! It totally freaked me out but amazed me at the same time.

[@redpillnibbler4423]

@@darrenpayne150 A form of hypnosis?

[@darrenpayne150]

@@redpillnibbler4423 yeh in a way. The majority of people in the audience were the same. Everyone was saying they had no memory of it happening.

[@misdirections]

Odd they chose to show this trick instead of the original trick, which sounds far more impressive. Man, I miss these Derren Brown Mind Control shows

[@jimboblim-er4697]

I love Derren, always have, and always wondered what it was like for somebody to be in your shoes. Surprise surprise, the guy who's up-front and honest about swindling you, is swindling you 😂. I wish Derren was still active in television