Descartes Meditation III: Of God, That He Exists

Join George and John as they discuss and debate different Philosophical ideas. Today they are continuing with Descartes Meditations on First Philosophy and looking into Meditation III.
Is it possible to prove the existence of God through the Rationalist method? Is it fair to say we have a clear and distinct idea of God, and is this enough to prove His existence. Watch as the two debate.
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couldnt you also could also argue that as beings that die/finite beings we can easily understand the opposite of that which is that there might be an undying thing...and that our experience of death is actually what confirms that there is finite and that our experience of at least deductively undying things (rocks, the earth, the universe) so why not a being of the same 'timing' within the world view that we live in.

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It's not that bad. Recently started getting into Phil and descartes is a concise writer. I think the reason this meditation was so long winded was because he was trying to not get his book shelved and banned by the church. His obsequiousness during the start was annoying and he tried to insert a (maybe deliberate) *flawed* yet ostensibly passionate argument of god's existence to buy the church's favour.

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I totally get his reasoning but I just don't agree? That we have an idea of God means He exists, seems like a huge leap to me. For starters, whereas Descartes who lived in a Christian society was introduced to the idea of God via culture, what about cultures where there is no God, or at least no infinite God? Well, maybe during the 18th? century most people weren't aware of such cultures. Still, the argument seems flawed.

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"There can be no cause and effect" is a weird stance to take on science

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Wouldn't it be true that because Descartes idea of God has inconsistencies (if God is omnipotent he must be able to make a stone he can't move) That means that it is imperfect and not necessary for a perfect infinite substance to create it

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Or maybe we really are the creators of ourselves who decided to have limited powers for a while because we got tired of being limitless beings and wanted to test ourselves in a different way. When we "die" we go back to being our limitless selves

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I believe we are infinite beings because God made us that way, but we live in a fallen world because of sin. Once we pass this lesson-learning life, we will be in our mean-to-be infinite state with God (if we followed him on this world ofc)

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Getting tired of being limitless would be a weakness because he’s so powerful but can’t even maintain his limitless attributes because he got bored

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8:25 i understand that Descartes didn't have an understanding of evolution or abiogenesis but, taking into consideration that the natural world is all that can be reasonable. I think if you define god into existence then of course God exists but, using the external world as a baseline I see a far more likely explanation for God is the evolution of religion itself.

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You always have the argument of infinite regress even with an infinite being. Who created the infinite being?

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The point of the infinite being is that He is all poweful and eternal. He has no need of a creator.

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being infinite means there is no beginning or end, he exists bc he just exists. It's tuff to understand bc we are only human lol

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Did you hear what you said? Who created the INFINITE being?

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Facts, it's paradoxical for believers to claim that a) infinite regress is impossible, and b) an infinite being exists. Theodicies from infinite regress essentially read: we cannot have an infinite regress of causation, as things cannot cause themselves, so it must be the case that something can cause itself. Either things can or cannot cause themselves- get a grip and pick one.

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How do we know surely that God is infinite?

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So an omnipotent unicorn must exist because I believe it can lmao? No bro! The fact that I can think of something dying means I can think of living forever. Simple fucking logic. None of know what it's like to die either!

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Youre presupposing an idea of the infinite in "forever". Its innate. Youre also strawmanning descartes by presupposing that the idea of god is a facticious one like a unicorn, Descartes entire point is that we could not come up with an idea of the infinite through sensory experience alone it cannot be a facticious idea compounded from various finite experiences. Youve then taken the idea of god and compounded it with a unicorn to get "omnipotent unicorn" to try and perform a reductio ad absurdum but you arent actually disproving any of what descartes says.

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While I do understand the idea of a god being innate, to me proven by the fact that every (or at least that I can think of) have some form of a god, I disagree with the properties listed being inherent and therefore true. Greek and Roman gods for example, they could be killed, could be hidden from, and all sorts of other stuff PS. I really hate Descartes Also, his idea of only an infinite being being able to give an idea of an infinite being, has he considered that he has that idea because a different finite being taught him? If you don’t teach a child about a god they don’t believe in a god because that idea is not innate

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that's false information you're spreading , there is scientific studies that prove we are all born believers , also there is no gods only one god one creator of everything and he is infinit , that means he has no begining , he's not a human he doesn't think or hesitate he doesn't make mistakes , he just knows , laws of physics do not apply to him , he created them !

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Ramzi Chouk I find it hard to believe that humans are ”born believers” source please!

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@@hezartlive1255 www.newscientist.com/article/mg21328562-000-the-god-issue-we-are-all-born-believers/ www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/3512686/Children-are-born-believers-in-God-academic-claims.html

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Ramzi Chouk did you read those sources? Or just look at the titles and ignorantly copy and paste? Neither of them state what you are claiming. They do, however, claim that children, while making sense of the world, tend to lean towards the supernatural, and that this can be overwritten in different cultural settings.

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@@chance2377 loved this comment. While making sense of the world we tent not to confuse ourselves with the explanations on all living things, so we end up sticking the title to a creator and calling it a day

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Did I just hear a republican say God's real because they "feel" he is real....i thought feelings don't matter.

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god is real because of the scientific evidence such as the big bang , the expansion of the universe , singularity , DNA , the golden ratio , everything leads to one creator

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Ramzi Chouk 😂 nothing leads to one creator. There is no ultimate singularity. Especially in nature things evolve to their environment which has no single or balanced state. The Big Bang did not create consciousness

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@@redlightclinicdrummer the golden ratio ? how can a pattern exist without a pattern maker ?

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Ramzi Chouk a “pattern maker” lol??

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