Designing the brain of the Home of the Future with Grant Imahara

[@TheVerge]

Which smart devices do you use in your home?

[@ishansharma4533]

The Verge smartphones only

[@littlebigmarc]

alexa plus light bulb but i keep forgetting about them lol

[@alexjenkins1079]

If we’re talking strictly about devices like the Amazon echo line and Google home devices, then none. I don’t trust them not to record me and store those recordings in a centralised database to be used against me later, like a telescreen in Orwell’s 1984.

[@ishansharma4533]

Alex Jenkins Ya true

[@cd2048hfkdndj]

Google home mini

[@mannymelo949]

Rip buddy We’ll miss you

[@rishabhgon757]

Who died?

[@cashis0k381]

Rishabh Gon Grant Imahara died about 2 weeks ago.

[@danielgeorge4566]

@@rishabhgon757 Grant Imahara

[@therealb888]

@@cashis0k381 how?!

[@cashis0k381]

b888 brain aneurysm

[@ntnwwnet]

7:13: What he's really saying is: "If I showed you how to do this with non-proprietary software, I'd be out of a job."

[@falmanna]

Any ideas what it is?

[@ChazEvansdale]

Yep, he's saying "we want to charge you $30 a month for something you could do yourself, but we won't let you." This is a service for rich people with limited to no tech skills.

[@nhsnm]

Check Out OPENHAB!

[@joelsawyer569]

@@nhsnm or HASS

[@nhsnm]

Agreed @@@joelsawyer569 I have looked at HASS and I like Openhab better. Both can do the job either way.

[@WeslarWaven]

Rest In Peace Grant, you made my childhood so enjoyable

[@koaasst]

My "brain" is a $35 raspberry pi.

[@lukasnolte3151]

Same here😂

[@OmarClement]

That's right, raspberry pi running Home Assistant. Does everything and more for $0.00 a month.

[@koaasst]

@@OmarClement well like grant said, there are smart versions of everything. Some of us are great at doing it for ourselves, but doing it for others, that might hold us back....you mean you want me to talk to customers who are clueless?!?! Lol i guess everything is in flux. The future is here for sure. Im glad!

[@FunnyFantasticFail]

Have a pi too. With openhab

[@jttech44]

@@OmarClement HA as the interface, nodeRED to handle the automation. Wayyyy cheaper than this stuff.

[@samkellman]

Seems pretty low tech for a "home of the future"

[@samsun01]

it's America, son. 5G don't exist in the imperialist American regime.

[@alfonsoalvarez1757]

Right

[@maacpiash]

A lot of devices and programming for not a lot of convenience. *Overkill* if you ask me.

[@Cyrribrae]

Yea.. no next to no convenience, in fact. All it does it give it one home - but they're not really talking to each other. All of this tech and the service fee is to essentially get a universal remote (and some macros) for the home. That's cool... but, it's far from critical. At most, I'm saving maybe 10 minutes?

[@youssefbenkraiem2685]

every word you said is right, It's a glorified universal remote with macros. Not worth it at all

[@static_sid]

It is actually a convinience, I've been to such a smart home connected by rti

[@Schradermusic]

@Cyrribrae: Right on point.

[@Drrolfski]

One could actually argue that this "house of the future" is more of a headache-giver than a convenience-bringer.

[@SpudMackenzie]

"Everything has to speak the same language." "That's a lot of languages." I'm sorry what?

[@FikiFirmansyah]

He means connecting different API and communication protocols. Zwave, zigbee, etc

[@neverbetter5434]

@@FikiFirmansyah everything is wired so, I think he isn't talking about wireless protocols. He is referring to the fact that all of these devices have different APIs.

[@FikiFirmansyah]

@@neverbetter5434 yes for sure there are many communication protocol (wired) i firgot to mention like BUS, CAN, etc. MQTT can be used as wired ir wireless thou.

[@kevinwiatrowski1156]

Watching this reminds me of how much I miss Grant. Rest will Grant, you changed the world. You will be remembered forever.

[@Califarnication]

rip 🙏 Grant, thanks for making the world a better place with your talent, smarts, and charisma

[@mimict7811]

Thank you for all you’ve given us. We’ll miss you Grant. Rest in peace buddy.

[@Gianni135]

THIS IS THE FUTURE! 4:02 (uses windows xp to program)

[@harshagarwal3855]

It's Mac OS and not windows XP

[@matth.7128]

Harsh Agarwal look a bit closer (4:10). He’s probably using Bootcamp, Parallels, or a virtual machine to run Windows on his MacBook, but that’s definitely not MacOS.

[@SzymonSaysStuff]

Windows 7... But still lol

[@THEGAMINGHELP101]

Yeah, that's Windows 7 running on a mac using basic them which makes it look like Windows XP.

[@heatxtm]

actually, that wasn't the real XP looks, it was windows nt, 95 and 98 looks

[@anthonyhou2335]

Home Assistant is an other free and opensoured platform for smart home too

[@shadecountry]

The subscription is paid to your integrator directly and not RTi. Also its not mandatory, but the systems like to be updated to the latest firmware from time to time. plus its nice to make changes to the favorite buttons.

[@lhl]

Wait, so if I bought an RTI box I wouldn't get access to firmware updates or being able to change uh, a favorite button screen without going through an integrator? That sounds pretty awful, honestly.

[@shadecountry]

Your integrator could set you up so that they could log in remotely while you tell them what you want changed.

[@youtubeaccount69420]

Loved watching grant on myth busters, Happy to see he has been able to go on to get different opportunities.

[@AminANakhjavani]

I've been setting up a few houses with Home Assistant, an open source home automation system that has plugins for things like lights and tvs, all the way to BMW cars that have some sort of IOT integration. This system is not even compatible to Home Assistant which is cheaper and you have full control over everything.

[@makafuiazasu7681]

And the Ford truck just won't go away

[@Basketballbayern]

Makafui Azasu yes it won‘t because the Series is sponsored by Ford

[@shadecountry]

The Truck has built in Alexa. So that's pretty cool, to control the house from your truck. So not a COMPLETE loss. :)

[@stevenrobinson4884]

Love these vids but that truck is just plain wrong for the future!

[@James_Ryan]

This is the home of the future after Trump is re-elected: an F-150 will be mandatory for every household and you will be fined $1,000 for achieving more than 20 mpg. ;)

[@jjc5475]

americans don't like sexy electric.

[@tolgakoymen519]

Can't wait to see the whole house finished

[@bandaralbraheem9942]

Tolga Köymen will there be Tesla power walls and the Tesla Solar Roof

[@hannesh6243]

The subscription service is definitely not cool. It kinda seems like a scam because that system is so closed that you have to have a subscription and pay them every month, just because you might want to change something in the future. I'd just use Google Home, some Sonos speakers, Nest Smart Home devices and a Chromecast or two. I don't really watch TV anymore so that wouldn't be a issue.

[@MHWGamer]

Nest is also a scam!

[@PWingert1966]

I have a subscription service. It send me a pretty blonde escort for about an hour every week and it costs about the same as this and provides me at least four hours of pleasure a month.

[@-SP.]

P. Wingert I want to know what kind of subscription service you are using.

[@PWingert1966]

It only available in Canada. LOL.

[@-SP.]

P. Wingert Lucky me I also happen to be from Canada

[@TheTwick]

So, how much does all this cost?

[@simeoola]

To do it properly around £200,000

[@masonhuffman1329]

Moments Of Genius including the home and the solar etc

[@kelsey_roy]

Cut out the middle man system integrator. The future is DIY wireless. Retrofit everywhere. No monthly subscription.

[@simeoola]

KamekoBruns if you actually read what I said...to do it properly the cost would cost £200,000. The price of a property has nothing to do with the components and equipment needed to automate it properly. This wouldn't even pass the spec of a grade two smart home. There is actually an industry around this and the non sense consumer purchasable products in this "smart home" doesn't cut it the only device credible is the Luxul switch that if POE is $1500 by itself.

[@simeoola]

Mason Huffman No. A simple video 8x8 video matrix that will allow you to rack all media devices will set you back $6000+

[@angusbarber7925]

Personally I would rather buy into the google based ecosystem, the assistant itself is better, but it integrates naturally with nest devices, as google owns nest, and allows seamless content control with chromecasts. Also I use an android phone so it integrates with that really nicely. It seems as if the same functionality could be achieved to the home with a couple of google home maxes and chromecasts and that the implemented system is needlessly more complex, expensive with a higher maintenance cost and ironically is backwards thinking. Personally I use a chromecast with a projector, google wifi and a google home.

[@carson9903]

Agreed, the Google ecosystem is pretty good and it's relatively open, too. They integrate pretty well if you own multiple Google products; idk why they decided to go with so many different platforms: an Echo, Roku TV, and Nest.

[@Linkwii64]

I don't trust Google. When they control everything in your home they control your life.

[@carson9903]

But you're using KZbin, _with_ a Google Account? 🤨

[@Linkwii64]

Carson Saldanha precisely, we already half way there.

[@carson9903]

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[@K.L.A.S]

Nope. This is ott and not really necessary. A lot of this stuff is achieved with far cheaper equipment and no "expert" necessary. Edit: he actually said this near the end of the video.

[@nonsquid]

The Verge has the blessing of KZbin. I have never witnessed such a fast download of any other video. With regards to integration of appliances into your home, how does it feel to be blocked out of adding or modifying anything in YOUR home? So much for open technology. If I had to do it, I would go old school PLC.

[@AdityaKar]

You say you're an engineer but you're afraid of hurting yourself while trying to tinker with home automation systems? This should be a dream part time project for any engineer!

[@lonethseneviratne5758]

Thought the same thing

[@Cyba_IT_NZ]

He's probably got a kickass home fully automated by himself but he just had to say that for this ad.

[@EmilKristensenDK]

I have a few points, first the Ford truck is totally out of place, then its so stupid to use a locked down, paid platform. One could get the same for free with harmony and compatible devices. Or it could get even more advanced with Home Assistant (a open source free python project). At last you should consider security. As you combine everything in one hub, only that one hub has to be compromised to change basically anything, even locking/unlocking the home.

[@ChanceSampson91]

This is actually a pretty basic home integration.. I still appreciate that Grant is showing that it's not quite that simple to just buy a bunch it smart stuff and have it all work together. Like he said, this stuff will self-integrate with less intervention eventually, but you'd be surprised how quickly you can get into the weeds with this stuff. Especially in commercial environments where downtime can mean money being actively lost.

[@HypoXXL]

I love these "Home of the future"-videos! Greetings from Germany

[@PHlophe]

where about!

[@shadecountry]

Thanks for watching!

[@MattsPaddock]

Too bad it doesn't have Google Home and Google Assistant integration, you could avoid "...tell butler..." by using shortcuts, plus of course, the GH / GA itself is a good service to have.

[@shadecountry]

It also works with Google Home now.

[@MattsPaddock]

That's awesome to hear! Nice work! 😊

[@aspe]

Putting all those wires though makes the home a lot less modular. That's the best advantage of wireless technologies in my opinion. Modularity would be a priority in my dream home, since changing stuff around revives my relationship with it and makes me have a more organic attention towards it. Modularity should most definitely not be underrated.

[@LandscapeInMotion]

dimitris aspetakis I agree! However, we are going from one wireless router in the house to many many more wireless devices - I counted typically 20 x 2.4 GHz wireless devices for a smart home. It creates EMF hell in your home - you think you gonna sleep well at night? Too much exposure to EMFs disturbs your red blood cells. So I did not take that chance, so I opted for Ethernet in every room, and switch on wireless when I need it.

[@compactcow]

@@LandscapeInMotion The majority of these devices don't support ethernet anyway.

[@compactcow]

If modularity is a priority you certanly don't want the locked down software these people are trying to sell you 😅

[@richardpadilla7599]

Love and miss you always, Mr. Imahara

[@WillCoffin1]

This was REALLY disappointing guys, putting together a big name like Grant Imahara and The Verge to showcase 10-year-old technology? I have to say this is NOT the home of the future, this is the home of 2009 with an Echo Dot. Crestron/RTI/Control4 have been doing this for the uber-wealthy for decades, but nobody should waste their money on those systems anymore, they are being disrupted by true "Smart Home" technologies that are iterating features with each app update and you don't have to pay an integrator $500 to come out and a new device to your system. There is still a place for a central control system but it's not going to be an antiquated server in your closet, it will be an app on your tablet or phone hosted in the cloud with ever-improving technologies. Please call Nest/August/Sonos/Samsung/Philips/Amazon, get some hardware, rent a sweet Airbnb on the beach somewhere and reshoot this video. (I'd be happy to help!). I hate being negative but this really disappointed me, I expect more from The Verge and I've been with you since day 1.

[@GregPolasky1]

you my friend have no idea what you are talking about. derp derp

[@GregPolasky1]

Control4 is one of the fastest growing tech companies in 2018. They just hired Charlie Kindel, architect of the Amazon Alexa smart home initiative. They are eating up company after company. People like you have been saying this for years. Too funny

[@8BitEpidemic]

@@GregPolasky1 I'm guessing you have some personal stake in this company, cause you seem to have taken offense to what this guy wrote.

[@completehomeelectronix4325]

@@8BitEpidemic 8BitEpidemic i own a home automation company, and its comments like this that kill me. He over simplified what Crestron/RTI/C4 (all rivals of the brand I carry btw) are and can do while over selling what Nest/Samsung (smart things) etc can. Those are good products, particularly for DIY users who dont want to learn coding for something like a Raspberry PI. Its true that DIY smart home is growing faster than traditional home automation, but thats because of price...and the traditionals are producing gear aimed at those same price points with the same features, only with an ability to scale up. In reality, there are 3 forms of hone automation: 1. Consumer DIY lines like Smart Things, are inexpensive (relative to the CI lines) and easy to setup, but limited. They're great for the average home and moderately tech savoy owner. 2. DIY like Rasberry PI, are super inexpensive, but require a lot more free time and technical knowledge. 3. C.I. like Crestron, that combines the best of the other 2 at the expensive of cost. None is right for all. Im not against DIY or semi-DIY like Smart Things, but it is irresponsible to make an apples to apples comparison to Crestron. While he complained that RTI has been around for decades, i couldnt count how many DIY automation lines have started and closed in the last 5 years

[@qwarlockz8017]

I totally repeated your point! EXACTLY!

[@Retrovibes]

The problem is that this tech will never be integrated because it comes from different sources. Houses of the future will be nothing like this. It only adds complexity to our lives, costs a lot of money and provides questionable benefits. I rather just get up and push a button.

[@MotorDAZ]

Yes it can be like this. Go read about KNX standard.

[@NickHorvath]

Or check out open source projects like hass.io there are so many integrations out there already even to many "closed" apis that have been reverse-engineered by people.

[@loksha323]

I have 3 Google homes spread out in the house. Wemo light dimmers for every room to control recessedights, nest thermostat, ring doorbell and floodlights, Logitech Harmony box setup. All pretty much integrate with Google home so I can control most of it with voice. Great video.

[@janmonson]

Awesome explanation. I am a Computer Engineer Technologist with at Data/IP background and a Journeyman Electrician. I currently have the simple setup you talked about. (Google Home, Chrome Cast, and Hue lights) I am also building a Data Center in my basement that will allow me to create APIs so I can integrate my Raspberry Pi with the system and, running a custom built app and Android Open Auto, allow me to remote start my older vehicles with voice command. I am also integrating the Pi's camera for dash cam and remote upload to my servers. Using virtualization I am also building personal, scaleable cloud services and media streaming services. All to be integrated with my mobile, home, and vehicle entertainment systems.

[@59Mrgamer]

i'm studying home automation in france and it is cool to see how you do it in the othe side of the atlantic, i would love to go in the us to work there but the regulation are not the same

[@timavolkov]

I just watched an ad for Smarter Homes

[@PHlophe]

Timofey, but you did so willingly. You own a dacha is the posh district of Yekaterinburg , this is for you.

[@domramsey]

Giant gas guzzling Ford truck. Overblown, proprietary electronics that can't be programmed by users. More stuff. More wires. This is some 1980s hellish vision of the future. The future we actually want is unobtrusive, minimal and integrated. Not this!

[@Underhills]

Wireless power is not even futuristic I'm afraid. It's sometime in the next galactic time dimension. In the meantime we need power cables and "stuff". Can't build a smart house without. Build a zen room and enjoy the gadgets when you feel for it. Then again, some might define a smart home as something like a chapel with no artifacts. That can be smart if you wanna distance yourself from the digital. Whatever you do, be smart about it!

[@noahewoods]

They have to have a Ford because it's a sponsor

[@assassinjohn]

go live in caves early man.

[@martymcfly8007]

This is the House from the movie "Back to the future"

[@joshuamorin2762]

Clearly you have never owned a truck lol. New trucks aren't gas guzzlers. You've just been conditioned to think that.

[@bobmcfishkens6443]

**makes amazing probably million dollar house** **gets internet through AT&T....**

[@shadecountry]

AT&T has 1000 MBPS here in Austin.

[@bobmcfishkens6443]

Peter Sandford it sucks where I live lol

[@shadecountry]

Its still not my fav. We are big fans of google here. Also 1000 Mbps

[@Nicholas-f5]

I live around the corner and we have Google Fiber

[@FossKhan]

Rest in peace to this legend

[@MIGerlag]

I’m surprised you didn’t mention Apple’s HomeKit. HomeKit is the most complete interpretation of this, basically everything they did here can be done with HomeKit if you have the correct HomeKit enabled equipment, and there’s already a healthy list of compatible devices like lights, cameras, locks, thermostats, garage doors, security cameras, security systems, taps even friken blinds... the list goes on... I have my Philips hue lights and Logitech Circle 2 security cameras integrated with HomeKit, and I’m very keen on upgrading some more equipment to smarter HomeKit compatible solutions. What was showed in this video is very cool but the fact that it’s not very end user configurable (meaning needing these guys to come and make any changes because the end user isn’t allowed to) kinda, well, sucks!!! I’m very impressed with HomeKit so far, it’s still new and needs some work but even so it’s still very good and very capable at the moment and it can only get better with software updates and more and more HomeKit enabled equipment. Smart integration frameworks like HomeKit baked right into the products are the future, hopefully there will be a well recognised non Apple solution for all the Android and Windows users out there. Apple is able to get it right easily because of the niche they have in the market, they can define a framework like HomeKit and other companies respond because there’s a ton of potential customers using Apple devices who would be more likely to buy their products if it used HomeKit, ask yourself this, if their product sat next to a competitor an the shelf and one said ‘works with Apple HomeKit’ and the other didn’t which one do you think the owner of the shiny new iPhone would pick? There needs to be another universal framework standard like HomeKit to cater for the non Apple users, then smart integration will really start to take off. The solution in this video where you need to pay someone else to rewire you’re house and charge you a fee to come and make changes and visit you every so often is definitely not the future, that sounds like a hassle. Both my lights and cameras were setup in minutes and fully integrated with HomeKit straight away, and I can add to that with thermostats and taps and whatever the heck I want whenever I want and set it up how I like with no paid nerd needed to do any of that. That my friend is the future. Sure HomeKit can’t do exactly everything these guys could like with the xbox and PS4 but it does pretty much everything else and without the need of some third-party begging for a fee.

[@ZachHHicks]

This was my thoughts exactly. This video would be more accurately described as the best smart home of the present not the future. HomeKit is growing faster than anything and is absolutely the smart home of the FUTURE. In the near future HomeKit will be able to control anything in your home like this and is easily set up. Plus setting up complex scenes and automations is super easy. If you are Android then this all would be Google Assistant.

[@zeemalota732]

The tech is modular - ie - it can be replaced with the latest version, and it's easy enough to then update the rest. For example, I've installed Lutron Lighting systems nearly 20 years ago, and they are still working, and can still do what is needed today. The new modules offer extra bells and whistles, and network connectivity, but RS232 still gives me two way feedback, full control, and the end user wouldn't know the difference - the wiring architecture is still pretty much the same.. However, should you want the newest keypads with the latest modules, then you just remove the old, plug int he new and it's not a huge deal. The control processor I have running my home is near 10 years old now, and is still capable of integrating with the latest gear - the firmware update shave ensured this, and despite what the video says about API's, you are able to control pretty much anything on the market. Now, Homekit, Google Home, Alexa etc are excellent devices, wonderful for the home GIY market, and great for people with the tech mindedness to have a go and set it up. But it's not even close to the power and control that is possible with systems like the ones shown. Having said that, most people also don't need that sort of power, so it's horses for courses. The negative comments are more a case of ignorance, there is a place for all of these devices, but don't, for a second, think that Alexa, Homekit and Google Home would exist without Crestron, AMX, RTI etc. I was setting up Crestron systems15 years before Apple even thought about iPhones. What you, the consumer are now enjoying, is the evolution of the high end market as it trickles down. Don't hate - embrace! The high end of today will be the $99 off the shelf box of tomorrow.

[@gmankono]

As Zee points out, we have a great opportunity here with the decent handful of methods that have been used in the past and open source projects that have sprung up to add them as options to the modern control system options. HomeBridge is a great open source project to offer a way to get RS232 style command set capable devices showing up as "HomeKit" devices. Definitely more tinkering than a basic setup, but I am very much enjoying being able to add anything with a control structure.

[@cravnd4003]

The only reason I'm subscribed to The Verge channel is this series :D I just love it!

[@gurleensingh9014]

0:28 that’s definitely Hacker Typer...

[@chosenArchitec]

lol

[@shadecountry]

We put that there just for you.

[@ahale1987]

After watch a couple years of stuff like the HGTV Smart Home specials where the central control was an iPad with 30 different apps, it’s refreshing to see an example of an actual smart home integrator utilizing the consumer-grade gear. That being said, as I’m planning my own smart home, my plan is to utilize equipment that already shares a common platform where necessary. Some items don’t “need” to participate in automations or scenes. Smart washer/dryer combos, or smart irrigation controllers are examples of this IMO. Items like that are fine being stand-alone systems for my use-case. Everyone else’s usage may vary.

[@stereothrilla8374]

This is nothing more than a slick home entrainment/security/multimedia installation with a glorified universal GUI. Cool, but by no means the home of the future. I'm sure this is exorbitantly over priced.

[@Nicholas-f5]

100k minimum.

[@AlexFullam]

WHOA! So many negative comments, I am surprised how many people are bashing a high level, entry system addressing and embracing new technology. I for one think it was well explained especially for somebody who is new to home automation. Here a couple of my points, followed by my system: First, People who have a smart home now have probably endured the constant growth and changes and maybe are not experts, but they do know the inner workings of all the keywords that are in place such as zwave, ITTT, etc.. For this technology to grow, there will need to be some transitions to companies that do this for you and YES, they will charge and people will be willing to pay for support and just the fact that they know they hit a button or say a phrase and it works. For those of you that want to go the free route, then go for it (myself included) but know that when a firmware, power outage, or even new technology hits, we will have some work to do. My system: 1. Samsung Smart-things hub (Brain) 2. Multiple RTSP Wireless Cameras 3. Mesh Unifi Wireless AP's 4. Edgerouter X Firewall - NAT Router 5. Static IP's with DSL and Cable connectivity 6. Most light switches replaced with GE-Z-Wave switches 7. Many Outlets replaced with GE-Zwave-Outlets 8. Nest Thermostat (V2) 9. Yamaha 685 7.2 Receiver 10. Vivint Security system tied into Z-Wave Network 11. All tv's have Google Chromecast 12. Moderate programming of scenes / things with smart-things 13. Z-Wave Motion Detectors 14. Philips Hue Bulbs in NON switch controlled lights. 15. Google Homes / Mini's throughout the house 16. Finally I use ITTT as the glue for any device and for trigger events. I have built what I have piece by piece over the last 4 years and I am very happy with it. There are some growing pains but it gets easier as time goes on and I find it fun to innovate new technology and add to the growing list of applications to join together applications that don't have API's, ITTT has played a key role, and not being associated with them, give them, google and samsung 5 stars for creativity and inovation.

[@Wolfgang8741]

I would not buy into a system that wouldn't let me tinker and customize. I find it condescending to think that individuals cannot handle their own home technology. It just takes a system designed to recover. The monthly fee is too high in my opinion and I hope would scale down to as their adoption scaled up, but it is important to note that addressing software and security updates as part of a monthly fee is fair and critical to smart home safety given the networked nature of IoT devices. I'd like to see an episode on addressing the privacy and security of smart homes and consideration of what policies these devices have on data collection and sharing. Where devices report eg does the device only talk to your home network or rely on a company server outside the home, what data is collected about each device use and what their individual and aggregate analysis may reveal. There are many hidden elements to the smart home of the future that the buyers should consider too, but are hidden from view in the software and policies of device manufacturers and software.

[@JeremiahONeal-t8y]

The whole "You'll hurt yourself" statement needs to be thrown out in the tech industry. We're not talking about 110v bare electrical wires or sharp cutting blades. This isn't something that will hurt the customer. At the very least, the customer might need to call and ask for help with the gui software. I understand, as an IT professional myself, that these terms are coming from the business side of tech and not the tech side of tech because after all, we're taking about all consumer grade electronics and while there are people in this world who will not try to understand this technology, there's also people in this world that will not learn how to add gas to their car or check the oil.

[@false_cypher]

This is such a fantastic series. Thank you for making it!

[@BohdanChub]

But what if RTI project will close in 5-10 years? Like some "lifetime" subscriptions/plans have already been cancelled

[@CrystalStearOfTheCas]

there's no lifetime subscription because they pay monthly??? If they close you just stop paying

[@shadecountry]

The subscription is paid to your integrator directly and not RTi. Also its not mandatory but the systems like to be updated to the latest firmware from time to time. plus its nice to make changes to the favorite buttons.

[@Schradermusic]

Yeah always nice if you have to call someone who then comes to your house to change what's basically a macro for you, because they don't allow you to "program" it yourself, even though that apparently happens via a GUI in Windows. Great system... not.

[@shadecountry]

We can also log in remotely and make changes while on the phone with a client.

[@zeemalota732]

Schrader - if you wish to spend the time and energy (and money) to learn to program the system, nothing is stopping you, but very few home users, even tech savvy ones, would have a clue how to even start, let alone modify a system. this is not Harmony or IFTTT, it's not wizard based, and chances are, if I handed you the software and program file to even a basic system, you'd "break" it pretty quickly. There are advantages to systems like this - your system keeps working if your net goes down, the software and hardware will continue to work should the manufacturer goes broke - unlike those systems that use cloud programming. The beauty of technology is you have a choice - you can go down the consumer path and DIY, or you can pay a professional to do it, because, well, you have better things to do. I love tech, and enjoy my work, but seriously, I'd rather be at the beach...

[@DrummerJames]

I use Google Home products but the main brain of my smart home is through Home Assistant via a Raspberry Pi 3 B+ (aka HASSIO). It's a lot cheaper and more customizable than that 'brain' they have. Can integrate Google Home, Z-Wave, LIFX, a lot of cheap lights, cheap ip cameras, and you can make your own sensors too. I'm surprised every day about how powerful it is, and how active the community develops it. If you want something like that house, and you have time to learn, you should check out Home Assistant.

[@MichaelBrawn]

Apple's Home / HomeKit makes this super easy, and is constantly being updated. Personally, I only buy devices that are compatible with HomeKit. This way I can personally configure any scenes or accessories I need using a single app while also allowing changes at any time; effectively doing everything that their $30/month service is offering and more. With Apple pushing software based HomeKit support in their new APIs, I expect to see many new devices enter the market, and support added to existing devices. AppleTV, HomePod, Phillips Hue, and Koogeek would bring much of the functionality shown here, with better Siri shortcut support coming in the future.

[@divyanshadwani8488]

Man I freaking love this series!!

[@chappado]

You can achieve almost the same level of automation using products such as Smartthings Hub and Harmony Hub. It's more cost effective and easier to customize. You don't need to be an expert programmer to add new equipment or create new scenes.

[@marcelogarza8325]

Anyone know where I could get a rack like this? Or was it custom made from existing furniture?

[@moover123]

"everything gotta speak the same language" "wow, that's a lot of languages"

[@anthonyherbert4731]

What program are you using to protect the home network.

[@StasisTV]

"Home of the future" "PlayStation 4 for gaming" This isn't adding up

[@shadecountry]

Hey it has VR though :)

[@b200377]

I've been able to build my own connected in a home built in 1950. I use a combination of Samsung Smartthings as my hub, Hue lights, GE smart switches, Nest Thermostat, Yale door lock, Ring doorbell and IP cameras all controlled with Google Home. I'm not an IT guy at all but I've made it easy enough for my 3 year old son to be able to control. It also didn't cost me an arm and a leg and I don't need a "programmer" to program it for me.

[@littlebigmarc]

wish i had 40k to set that up and a 1.8 million dollar home lol

[@catanainc]

as Grant said...get a Google Home Mini $50, Hue Lights $100, Chromecast $50...and you're pretty much set.... (or Alexa alternatives)

[@simeoola]

Doru Catana Grant is saying that to get you to look into things but it's a lie. A real system costs around £200-250k

[@THEGAMINGHELP101]

Umm Hue lights rang from $100-$200 for a pack of four light bulbs...So realistically to get all hue lighting in an average house is going to cost a few thousand dollars not $100

[@Cyrribrae]

The home's not nearly that expensive, even in Austin. That's actually so far been about the only part that's been impressive about the home of the future - making prefab construction both feasible and desirable. Solar stuff was cool, but ultimately a bit too speculative for my tastes. This video already looked outdated (which is not to say the tech or the promise isn't cool).

[@S2Tubes]

If you had $1.8M then negotiating, or stepping down to $1.7M wouldn't be too difficult.

logitech harmony does just that. I have the same setup. Btw, if you use a good AP like the ubiquity, you can support dozens of devices

[@MrLukeChandler]

This is so overkill. What happens when the company stops updating their app? You’re left with an old version. The issue with this is there’s a $30 per monthly fee. What a rip! Google Assistant, HomeKit and Alexa is where it’s at.

[@shadecountry]

The monthly fee is optional and you can use any integration company you like. You would not be locked into anything.

[@lawn2learn]

Please clarify the $30 a month is probably for Domotz. It is a remote management that’s part of Luxul Network gear. It monitors all of your network devices and lets you know if something has issues.

[@HenricPelegric]

when my country electricity is not reliable , you know I will sleep out side a lot with this smart every thing

[@jttech44]

A battery backup can keep a system like this running for a few hours, easily. Longer if you're ok with prioritizing the devices that make sense to have working in a blackout. Isn't like you need a PS4 or lights when the power is out.

[@revtmyers1]

I love having a smart home and have enjoyed doing it and updating it with new technologies. The main brains for mine is using a Raspberry PI 3B with OpenHAB2 software. Most of the switches are modified Sonoff switches with MQTT capabilities, an Insteon thermostat and HUB as well as Alexa and a few Chromecasts and Firesticks. With OpenHAB2 you can communicate with around a hundred different brands of devices through what they call binding and more are popping up all the time.

[@venkateshwaran292]

Wow. It indeed is a future house, but I guess there is a long way to go!! Anyways, make a budget future house video in future! Best of luck!

[@flyinghigh2000]

S Venkateshwaran check out Hass.io. Diy setup like in the video

[@marklong8608]

Let's see an equivalent video where you do it with google home as you suggest at 7:35 - what's the shortcoming of that approach? Other than wiring your in-ceiling speakers, do you need a single other cable in the walls? With a mesh network, google home, lutron caseta (or variants), chromecast, you can do most of this and just talk to your house or use the phone in your pocket instead of chasing the old iPad around and paging through menus, paying a monthly fee and having someone else program it. LG now has google home assistant voice recognition built in to their TVs.

[@uss_04]

All I want is a rack mount in my home. Relying on the cloud for all my automation makes me wary.

[@ciano5475]

All local and all functional even without Internet connection.

[@careyonbham]

I got all this done alone with my home more or less and did it all with smartthings, IFTTT and a weekend dialing it all in. the amount of money someone could save by not being lazy is amazing..

[@nramos33]

So...you're going to pay this guy $30 a month to hide a few cables, neutral the primary benefit of Sonos speakers (wireless connectivity), and program an app you're not allowed to reprogram? Seriously? They aren't even creating their own custom version of Alexa, which they should be able to do. And what happens if they go out of business tomorrow? Then you're stuck with a system you can't do anything with. And it's not like you'll be getting a refund. And then you have to switch everything to another system altogether. Austin has fiberoptic interent, so I don't see any reason why a mesh network isn't reliable enough and you have to go wired. What a freaking waste of money.

[@veritas932]

I did put network cables to my whole house. but then, you don't need a systems integrator to do that. Just an electrician will do. A wired connection is more reliable than wireless. Also some people are pretty sensitive to wireless frequencies. To be green, I would power down systems if people are asleep, saves electricity and the planet.

[@compactcow]

I'm just wondering what all the wires were for. The majority of smart home devices don't have an ethernet port. Only thing that would have ethernet would be the ip cameras.

[@juschu85]

7:25 No, he says "No" to legitimize the monthly service fee. At least in part. They also talked about open APIs. Looks like this system is just as closed as the camera at the door.

[@LucaWen]

"Its a supercomputer running on this" HAHAHAHAHA HA HAHA HAHAHAHA okay baby, and i have a ferrari.

[@MrTommibru]

What brand is the media console with the rack in it?

[@alexandreferrarabarulho4498]

I had the same question and after some research it seems to be the "Barcelona White 221" model from the Chameleon Collection from Salamander Design.

[@DanielLopez-up6os]

My main issue being, it has one point of failure, the access point...

[@FingerThatO]

Get Ubiquiti access points. They are highly reliable.

[@compactcow]

All residential networks will have a single point of failure unless you buy 2 modems and pay for 2 internet connections lol

[@half4team]

I use an Amazon Alexa device together with my self designed 'WiFiDomo' smart devices. RGB ledstrip through the entire house, led dimmers where white light is needed, the WiFiDomo Alexa to IR remote converter and smart switches that scan the entire house for presets. The entire system is modular and can be used with only 1 module upto as many as you need. Every module has it's own web-interface and can be used without any 3rd party software. (Easy integradable in your own interface/software)

[@Diplomkeks]

I love Grant and cool video! But: the damn Ford truck is so hilariously out of place in this video. And always placed as if just coincidentally in the shot :D It's hard to take a video about energy awareness serious if the sponsor is a company like ford. Is that the reason an electric car isn't a part of the modern home in the video? Maybe, maybe not. But this gnaws on the integrity of the piece for me.

[@euroclyde]

i'm 2 episodes into this, about to start 3, and haven't heard anything about insulating/sealing the house. the guy in part 2 talked about the giant energy hog, the hvac, and minimizing its needless use. that's the perfect segue into insulation & different ways to actually heat/cool a house. does this modular housing company, ma modular, insulate the hell out of the house? is it set up to circulate climatized air? does it use minisplits? what's the story here?

[@nathaniello9733]

Damn grant getting lied to the “programmer” just wanted to not have his job be useless by having someone else diy themselves around something like getting a new system.

[@junaidmohammad5664]

Omg Grant! I've missed you. One of my childhood memories ❤️

[@superpowerdragon]

good setup, but not mindblowing

[@shadecountry]

We were supposed to have smart tint on the windows and rain water collection data integrated as well as many other features like a smart mirror. So many things were out of reach on this much of a time crunch. :(

[@shadecountry]

Again, time was the factor. This was not the original house. the original house was delayed tremendously. If only we had the time. so many good ideas were pitched and seriously considered.

[@CharalamposKoundourakis]

Peter Sandford Keep up the cool work. There never will be enough time but there will be a next time.

[@jttech44]

@@shadecountry Which is why the people complaining about the service fee have no clue what the point of all this is. It isn't that they're building the "smartest" system, it's that they can ship this off to grandma and grandpa and have them just use it with everything always working, and if they want to add something or change it you guys haven't hamstrung yourselves into having to say "no".

[@EckoHawker]

Rest in Peace Grant Imahara...you will be missed

[@PaconskY]

Maybe I am wrong on this, but this looks like a pain to maintain...

[@shadecountry]

Depends on who your tech team is.

[@Drrolfski]

If you need an engineer to come to your home multiple times a year for maintenance, you're simply not living in a "home of the future".

[@shadecountry]

Now and in the Future, all things will need maintenance. Even a Tesla.

[@ikjadoon]

But, Peter, it's primarily maintenance because of competing standards and immature APIs. These things get fixed by parent companies over time. Compare Google Home from its launch until now. It's like trying to build an electric car 20 years ago. not ready for prime time, only accessible to those most affluent or tech savvy, needs perpetual maintenance for even minor adjustments (like...adding a game console), and is wholly dependent on manufacturers "wanting to play nice". That's where this "Home of the Future" is: an awkward teething phase. There will be a "Tesla" or "iPhone" moment for home automation. But we ain't there yet. This is still mostly the dark ages of home automation. We already can see the future of very simple maintenance in home automation and electric cars because a manufacturer made it possible (i.e., Google Home): it's just a matter of time.

[@compactcow]

@@ikjadoon we're there now 😃

[@jozefpuk]

4:09 pretty smart and sofisticated. He is even using WINDOWS on a MAC. how cool the rest we do not see must be!

[@compactcow]

Windows 7 too 😃

[@RdnkB]

This Mac that runs Windows

[@Gianni135]

windows xp....

[@RdnkB]

Gianni135 my guess it’s 7 with turned down aero

[@Gianni135]

I'm pretty sure that Areo dosen't change the window title

[@Norgra69]

It might be Linux/Mac with a Windows 95/98 style desktop environment. Regardless, it's bizarre.

[@Gianni135]

nope, it's a virtual machine en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine

[@intellectualhybrid2]

Grant Imahara was from Mythbusters! Finally remembered where I knew him from. Was just this itch in the back of my mind for the longest time while watching this series

[@JeandrePetzer]

Program it yourself :P

[@solidfoxy]

Anyone know the name/brand of the cabinet in the video?

[@alexandreferrarabarulho4498]

I had the same question and after some research it seems to be the "Barcelona White 221" model from the Chameleon Collection from Salamander Design.

[@Drrolfski]

Looking at the ridiculous amount of oldskool wiring, the home of the future seems pretty far away to me.

[@James_Ryan]

Indeed, it's bizarre that each device appears to have a dedicated PoE cable; in modern cars the trend is to daisy-chain the low-power devices on one cable and use remote hubs for high-power devices...

[@shadecountry]

When we home run the POE it gives us control over those devices individually and remotely.

[@shadecountry]

Old school? This is all Cat6 wiring and we have conduits for fiber to be pulled in the future.

[@zeemalota732]

@Linus Das - Because if the first device in the chain dies, then they all die... Home run means one dead device doesn't kill them all. Also, for the "wireless" crowd, when they invent wireless power, then we'll be wireless, until then, everything needs to be plugged into power.

[@GregPolasky1]

what is new school wiring?

[@aznboymichael]

I really love this movement we are moving towards. As a student who is studying electrical engineering wants to pursue this as a career. How can I support this movement?

[@e4r281]

What is a sleeping brain's favorite musical rock band ? REM

[@ottawahker]

There is an old (industrial) system standard call "Modbus" can perform similar tasks, through RS-232 or RS-485 you can line things in 2 wire (signal).

[@shadecountry]

We use that system in our Vantage lighting jobs.

[@CoMoEnTrAsAlE]

Lol there goes your solar efficiency....

[@yugen042]

You could've done the same with a small home server and/or a few raspis. For stuff like that I would definitely recommend going open source. There will probably be even more hassle to set it up, but you are not bound to a company that may go under, don't have to run possibly unsafe or old proprietary software in your home and of courst it'll be much cheaper. Also that way you will actually understand what the systems are doing and you can still integrate proprietary stuff as you like if you have an "open backbone".

[@sergiosanchez9130]

Rip if he gets hacked lol

[@DesmondKarani]

....the truck... Ford, we know you have trucks ffs

[@Nicholas-f5]

No electric trucks even.

[@kalebgardner4899]

How do I get the same people to come to my house that we are building to come to do that @The Verge

[@Jerjaiable]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is all i see.

[@kibagami25]

This is great and awesome. If the API's can all be open and make it easier to get Z-wave and Zigbee to work together instead of getting all these hubs to support each "language". Also the network will need to be able to support all the multi in and multi out "MIMO". That way the router or switch can support more and more devices as the years go on. The wifi mesh is a good alternative to this if you prefer to go wireless instead of the video where it's all Cat6a i bet. Cable is still better as wireless data bandwidth will cap at some point but with cables you can get the stability you want. Very good video. I like how the guys told Grant that he can't but i am sure Grant is smart enough to configure all of this with that custom app since the language to configure it looks very easy.

[@gmankono]

Apple HomeKit with Philips Hue v2 hub & bulbs, along with HomeBridge running on a Raspberry Pi 2 to add the Nest Thermostat and other accessories and anything else not-HomeKit-native. Next step will be to add some Power-over-Ethernet IP cameras to catch the wildlife that wanders through the yard.

[@auggiesgarage7684]

Im using an Elan G1 controller to integrate my lights, locks, cctv, alarm, hvac, and A/V. It's a PITA to program but works reliably.

[@mikedevan8890]

Such a gifted individual. He left us far too soon...

[@teddykatz5411]

1:08 "Everything's gotta speak the same language" "Wow, that's a lot of languages!"

[@compactcow]

😭

[@MaXwellFalstein]

Nest Correction: Nest used to support a relatively closed API; however, Nest (a Google Home company) has been working on Thread Group's Thread network protocols which are available through Open Thread (by Nest). Thread is based on IEEE 802.15.4 with IPv6 which is referred to as 6LoWPAN. Thread is absolute for routing between IEEE 802.3, IEEE 802.11 and IEEE 802.15.4. I am developing tools and hardware which will use Thread to end Bluetooth in the very high-end smart homes. Because Thread is open, Nest is no longer using a closed API.