Desktop Cnc Mill with a unique Tool Changer - Carvera Cnc Machine Review

[@techydiy]

Carvera is now in full production, you can find further details here: bit.ly/Makera New review of the Carvera, setting up Fusion 360, Aluminium milling, feeds & speeds: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnu3f3-KntqSjs0

[@MohdAftabAlam-cq2uu]

we want this machine in india. Do you have any supplier here in India?

[@AF29007]

There are some very clever solutions engineered into this thing. The laser to observe whether a tool has sucessfully dropped in the tool holder is brilliant.

[@sbrown7210]

I've spent years around CNC machines and this at first look is very impressive.

[@NicksStuff]

That's incredible. What a world we live in!

[@BunkerSquirrel]

Great review! Just a demonstration with light commentary on what’s happening. Very lovely, thank you!

[@techydiy]

Since this video Carvera has improved the dust collection bin, added an external dust port, changed the Y axis linear shaft to 25mm, added an external estop switch, an x, y ,z probe, M8/M9 air flow control and a laser protection film.

[@garymorris4931]

When will these machines be available

[@marcelj.9033]

This is a great project, which is well thought out. I hope it will come into production so that I can buy it one day. Now I only have one CNC 3018, but you just want more with your CNC. something professional. Great work!

[@chrisfrisch1347]

i have a 3018, i was caving with it a bit then i put the laser on it and never touched the spindle again and its 18 months later. i would love to have a more pro machine like this one

[@mylow89]

starting the 3018 club here, but im planning to upgrading to a 5 axis 2.2kw spindle machine, though i will consider buying this thing too if it comes out and i find out

[@TheOttacat]

Very nice micro CNC. Hopefully, they build bigger ones in the future for more uses such as signs or bigger woodworking projects.

[@darkracer1252]

not even 5 minutes in. and i can already tell it's worth the money. now i just wish i had the money

[@sufiyanbaig7489]

what a beautiful combination of engraving and laser , appreciated .

[@htko89]

Very nice review. Straightforward, but also thorough. Thank you

[@davidenriquez4988]

really good machine, is the first time i see a real automatic pcb making machine

[@CoryFritz1]

This thing is like a dream unit

[@constantinosschinas4503]

by no means a cheap machine. but they seem to have cared for and solved all real world issues of software/safety/usability/reliability/precision/repeatability that a diy or semi-pro user may face. on it's own, this seems an amazing accomplishment. having used (aside from real cncs) carbide3D which is deep trash in every level, believe me, this seems like alien technology. excellent presentation and comment replying as well. company must thank you forever.

[@BlondieHappyGuy]

What an amazing robot! It looks like the price is reasonable too (as of this video). I saw a different machine that, compared to this, is super basic and it cost a lot more.

[@xiaoshizi131]

Thought this would be a nice upgrade for the 3018 I'm using now... Only thing I can think of missing is a5 the axis. Thx for this in depth review on making a complete product. But having to wait till August 2022 is way too long now.

[@SLcompany_watch]

Thanks for a really nice review. Hope this CNC mill actually comes out

[@Milkex]

Woah, what a life-changing machine!

[@thomaspaine4670]

"What a fascinating modern age we live in" Jack Aubrey.

[@mamoshimiloni9559]

I am very very interested in buying one. I just hope that when they start selling them they are going to have different sizes of them. Really Great Project. Thank you for sharing...:)

[@airgunningyup]

this covers a lot of snags new cnc operators run into..,. like automatically height probing and showing where the cut will take place , not to mention the atc with auto height setter.

[@dbuck75]

Please post more on the Carvera.

[@MBSK-xw4ff]

부자되는법페인트 1초 전 👌👌좋아요베리나이스굿입니다요,아주훌륭하고 정성이 가득한게 너무 감동적이면서 여러가지 생각이 머리속을 스쳐지나가는군요,,이렇게 열심히하고 열심히 사는것이 아주 훌륭해 보인다는 감동적인삶이 계속되길 바랍니다요,,,👌

[@darkracer1252]

oh yeah i deffinatly want this thing. this is the first time i have ever looked at these things and thought. yeah i can't do that any cheaper/better.

[@Uvisir]

wow this machine is so much worth the money

[@Malainor]

Tool changer, 4th axis, dream machine 🤩. Well im gona finish my own some day. Just need to put in the Hours. The only bad part i can see is the tools not being in a box/drawer. Particles can easly lay ontop of tool. Or does it revers vacuum to clean them of..i think it does! Its nice to see a proper machine with metal, more metal and some cool add-ons included. Hum i wonder howlong until we start seing tool changing arms with air power toolchange (like a workshop cnc)

[@MkmeOrg]

Wow that is a neat piece of gear.

[@techydiy]

It is, it is fun to use.

[@RcRANFLAS]

How do you feel it performed cutting aluminum compared to other desktop cnc’s youve had?

[@techydiy]

I haven't done much testing with Aluminium but from what I have seen it works well,. The tests were not that aggressive, so at this point I haven't any real idea how far it can be pushed.

[@clayz1]

If it cut copper it can cut aluminum for sure.

[@brunosmith6925]

Really nice machine - and beautifully reviewed. What type of plastic are you using (the black plastic) for the base? Do you have a specific name or grade of that material?

[@techydiy]

Thanks. HDPE (High Density Polyethylene Sheet)

[@Hoops-Senior]

It's difficult to tell from a video, but how would you rate the noise level when cutting aluminium and engineering plastics? My last machine, a Heiz 720, used a Kress 1050. It was a good machine but very noisy. Where I am now I need something much quieter. Really, I need more of a mill than a router but the cost of a CNC mill is too high. This machine might suit.

[@FunDumb]

I love the project, just can't afford to lose 3k on whim of no real guarantee. It's absolutely amazing though. And If I could afford to taka a chance on it, I would.

[@conorclarke5545]

I think there's a high chance you'll get it because it's raised over $1,000,000

[@zoetmoments5625]

So when is the public release or when do kick-starters get there firs production. i really want to the auto tool changing function.

[@jhtsurvival]

This looks dope

[@Ipsissimus]

Very nice. Never using Kickstarter again though.

[@Zen_Modeling]

What’s the intro cost 💲 to get a setup?? I’ve currently been using a Sherline Mill & Lathe & have been shopping these units. Thanks Mate, ZenModeling

[@therealfox]

Awesome cnc. Price is awesome high too. About 2500 usd 🥵

[@martingaete8098]

That's actually reasonable for a CNC with all these capabilities, Bantam offers a CNC desktop machine that does not include ATC or laser engraver and costs around 5k (or more, including the 4th axis attachment), and here you don't have to pay for silly software subsrciptions, if there were mor guarantees, I'd totally go for this one rather than the bantam tools' one

[@GoingtoHecq]

You could carve a relief and shade it with the laser all in one go.

[@PhillyBatts]

Wonder if it could handle mild steel 3d milling with .002 imperial stepover?

[@techydiy]

I have cut steel with it but it’s not designed for that.

[@adlerstrohkirch6191]

Thanks!

[@techydiy]

Thanks

[@GoDuffdaddy]

That’s a pretty amazing bit of kit. Would you buy one I guess is the big question?

[@techydiy]

It is and fun to use. Yes, I would buy one.

[@GoDuffdaddy]

@@techydiy do you think it’s complexity will make it difficult to maintain?

[@techydiy]

It is not really that complex but It's quite tightly packed together. Hopefully they will sell spares. Most parts look pretty standard but the tool changer is a custom part.

[@GoDuffdaddy]

@@techydiy I believe they're going to open an online shop after the campaign and sell parts and add-ons. Good to know most of it is standardised and replaceable, but I'm not surprised by the tool changer. It's always a trade off.

[@SergeiPetrov]

How does the laser sensor in the tool magazine react to a high workpiece?

[@techydiy]

I have not experienced an problems but good question I will go and check

[@techydiy]

If the workpiece has a reflective edge and its thicker than about 50mm / 2", then when it is tool changing it will halt with an "ATC position occupied" error. If it is non reflective then its not detected. In practice its not a problem and a simple fix would be to put some tape on the material edge

[@techydiy]

fyi The potential problem was fixed with a barrier strip in the production version

[@cheroso1000]

Well, and where to buy? How much? Or just another prototype to get money on kickstarter?

[@vishals2873]

Perfect

[@MatthewTaylorAu]

the kickstarter page nominates delivery August 2022. idk... seems a long time away.

[@adnansusam3126]

what is the material of worksurface. is it epoxygranite?

[@artmellowsculpts]

Nice ❤ do you think it can do metal sculpture 😊🎉

[@techydiy]

Yes

[@ryanlevy3474]

Would you mind sharing what roller you used to spread the solder mask? I’ve been struggling with doing so and thought your results were great.

[@techydiy]

It was one that came with the machine. Quite a nice quality, hard rubber/plastic roller. The other way I do it is put some acetate over the uv solder mask and flatten it with glass.

[@ryanlevy3474]

@@techydiy Great, thank you!

[@Ademann]

Great CNC! Where can I buy one, here in Germany?

[@kentek3141]

So, what do you think this device will cost?

[@flyingdutchman28]

I had to stop watching 1:48 seconds into it to write this comment: “SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!”

[@trexter9630]

Wow this machine ticks so many boxes.

[@Sh4dowHunter42]

What is the name of the 6mm tool clamp? Are there replacements?

[@cacaokingdom3122]

Odd that they don't have an option to get both the 4th axis AND the PCB kit. You have to pick one or the other. Presumably you can buy the option later through the backerkit but still...

[@DocHogan]

One of the pledge levels includes either/or, and the other can be selected as an add-on while completing pledge.

[@turdferguson74]

Is there a demand for contract work for little machines like this? What repeatable tolerances can it hold?

[@canonicaltom]

These mini mills usually only hold tolerances of about half a thou. They're not for production work but for rapid prototyping.

[@grungeroze992]

😍😍😍

[@litonbasak4059]

Hello sir, very nice this masing ,how much price please.please

[@nimousa1571]

Where can I buy it? I need one in my life

[@speway]

Notice how the entire gantry/chassis is mobile and not fixed? Although it has dust collection there is no way that particles will not get in between that gap......unless they have boots that prevent it.

[@biker-leo6649]

Warum wird denn die vorhandene Absaugeinrichtung nicht eingeschaltet, bzw. genutzt? ... oder ist sie in Betrieb? Dann taugt sie wohl nichts!

[@techydiy]

Es funktioniert einfach gut. Ich habe es manchmal ausgeschaltet, um zu filmen. Er kann auch nicht mit der 4. Achse verwendet werden.

[@armenakhakobyan6456]

0:13 pls someone tell me what material is that???

[@wadeconner3200]

I prefer the name Zack for the Z axis please ;)

[@Observer168]

Can this machine handle a water nozzle to mill stone statues?

[@techydiy]

Nope

[@林郭-k9c]

我在中国，请问怎么按到欧美零件加工订单？

[@sufiyanbaig7489]

how much for this in INR ( Indian Rupee )

[@ffoska]

The 3K usd price range seems very low for this machine, I doubt they will pull it off. Not convinced that it will ever see production. Looks fine for companies, with high profits, but not sure if it will ever be affordable for the hobbyists. Also IMO some parts are very overbuilt, eg. the ballscrews are very oversized, not sure why they would use those; not convinced by the servo motors, you can have closed loop control with steppers, the super thick side sheets of the machine, and many makers have a problem with closed source firmware, it is a red flag for me for sure. The tool changer is really nice, at least.

[@merlinious01]

I agree that 3k seems low, but I'm seeing a lot of off-the-shelf parts that added together don't seem far-fetched as a bill-of-materials for the machine. HOWEVER, I am unconvinced a company can make a sufficient profit margin off that price range. For such a niche product you'd expect them to shoot for at least a 15% profit margin, but I'd be surprised if they can manage 5%. Now, that might just be because it is discounted for its backers, but I'm not seeing much in the way of wiggle room for incidentals, like tariffs, supply chain breakdowns, the massive increase in shipping costs these days, and material shortages. For example, shipping container prices have increased tenfold from last year, there is an aluminum shortage in China spreading to the rest of the world, China is shutting down magnesium production for the winter due to power shortages, which impacts the production of aluminum alloys. China's biggest producer of bauxite (guinea) has had a regime change and is now more hostile to china, further threatening production. If the $3,000 price tage was from before these events transpired, then they will make a loss on every machine they sell or will be forced to delay, likely for over a year for prices to fall.

[@alzeeraworks]

What's the brand name of the machine please

[@techydiy]

Carvera

[@markalvarado6716]

6:18 Was that Junkrat?

[@techydiy]

A spider dropped in, I never noticed it until I was editing the video.

[@peterlents983]

Can you provide a high resolution photo of PCB made by this cnc?

[@techydiy]

I will put some on my website when I get a chance.

[@NoahFect]

See Shahriar's review of the machine at The Signal Path. He builds and measures a 3.5 GHz hairpin BPF, and it nails it. Super impressive.

[@techydiy]

It's a great channel if you like RF as well.

[@simonbaxter8001]

16:52 What's all that cutter churn on the outside of the part??

[@techydiy]

Define cutter churn?

[@simonbaxter8001]

@@techydiy I would have expected a clean slot around the part with a fluted bit. What caused the irregular cuts into the stock?

[@techydiy]

Ok, I did think the outside shape was a bit odd , so I checked the gcode on a viewer and it was the same,

[@samsung46757]

How Much?

[@ameliabuns4058]

wish I could afford one ;c

[@codingblues3181]

Why desktop cnc machines don't cut stainless steel?

[@riskototh]

Because of the high speed spindle and lack of rigidity. For cutting steel, lower speed and higher torque spindle is required, and of course rigid machine to handle the torque.

[@MrKert86]

So what does this cost?!

[@inFAMOUS_-vt7lu]

$3000+

[@RedlineAlex]

Очень круто👍👍👍 А сколько стоит такая машина?

[@RedlineAlex]

@СССР а ты не добавишь🤣🤣🤣

[@MegaBlackJoe]

the laser needs air assit especially if you plan to cut

[@julianreverse]

Waaaaaaaay toooooooooooo sloooooooooooooow

[@thomasmica2856]

хочу такой )

[@Greenberet.]

not steel?

[@techydiy]

Apparently it can cut steel, I haven't tried it myself

[@xjyrki]

@@techydiy Hahaha. Oh please. With a 200W toy grade spindle and all that chatter when cutting plastics? I most definitely can't. You may be able to ENGRAVE a steel part though.

[@davidtheswedishtechguy]

That dustbin looks exactly like one in a xiaomi roborock s5 🤔😂

[@techydiy]

That seems like a sensible decision, why not.

[@kinggreene]

i'm a cnc setter operator, it would be much much better if the machine had a setup routine where is touched off the tools at the start of the job, totally pointless and time waste having it touch off every time it picks a tool.

[@constantinosschinas4503]

Thought the same but i guess it does it for precision, this machine has no precise V holders (BT30 etc) so z height/tool offset in every tool may change. By re-measuring, this issue vanishes. Pretty clever. It would be perfect if they had option to store Z-offsets as you say and bypass probing in jobs that need no real z accuracy (ie. roughing). But how much time would you save? Not much, and precision would suffer.

[@robertsneddon731]

@@constantinosschinas4503 There's the possibility of chips getting deposited on top of the index rings on each tool which would affect Z-axis repeatability -- in "real" CNC the toolchanger and its tools are shielded from the working area so Z-offsets for each tool can be persistent between toolchanges with some confidence in accuracy. I'd like to see a partition between the work area and the tool storage area to stop waste materials from cutting getting into that space -- even a flexible curtain would help stop most contamination. The tool spindle and tools enter and leave the tool storage area in the same path each time as far as I can see, after touching off on the Z-axis height sensor. The partition would need to be dismounted to allow for replacement tools for different operations or in case of wear or breakage, but that's a minor task during setup. It would be easy for an owner to add a homebrew screen like this after purchase.

[@WRW-ve3il]

欲しいなぁー

[@jackoneill8585]

and its only 5000 dollars :-( a kickstarter talk to me when its actualy availible to buy off amazon or a site

[@fredio54]

That tail stock thread being cut the wrong way is a definite NO for me. Everything else could be perfect but watching Naomi wu get it wrong due to muscle memory was a deal breaker. Not sure why I'm watching this in that case. They should fix that.

[@techydiy]

I never noticed that before, but now that you point it out it is awkward.

[@joppepeelen]

nice machine i mean someone went ape shit with what you can do with an x y z. but i wonder if this is much faster... 20000 steps. to poop out an test pcb. :( well at least it can ! but the speed... the speed is awfull. might be the gcode but i recon it wastes allot of bits by going that slow :) a stepper can go higher speed then this one does :( this is servo !! come on. i can drill faster by hand :( nice review though. i wont buy it ! so you did your job ! a honest review ! and sowed all it can do, and i must say pretty advanced to say the least. but not for me :)

[@riskototh]

I think it cannot go a lot faster... The X/Y/Z can, of course, but not when cutting, because the 200W spindle just don't have enough torque to do the cut at higher speeds. In fact, it's not even cutting at that feed, it's rather "grinding" :D 200W spindle is just for "playing around"... BTW, for that price I made a really big machine, with big X/Y/Z motors and water cooled big spindle, that's cutting aluminium like butter...

[@georgeowen2083]

Wow and they are asking for insane prices. 2500 bucks to 3300 bucks fully decked out.

[@steinarne79]

It's a bit of a... Meh.. There is no use of this one in a hobby scene... they try to do something "new" but its just different... Its all about time between closing the lid/door, and opening it again... If you look at that... its pretty easy to see what is worth going on or not..

[@SlowPCGaming1]

Cool machine. I wouldn't be using the laser tool without protective hood on machine and eye wear. Being blinded with science makes for a good song but not in real life.

[@FlakeSE]

Lot of room for optimization. Why measure the length of the touch off probe when that is essentially its job, in fact, why measure anything twice when it is the same tool.

[@techydiy]

It's more accurate, they are not using expensive tool holders.

[@jasperdraconianwolf]

How beginner user friendly is this to someone that has little to no experience with this kind of software

[@techydiy]

If you follow the tutorials closely, then you will be able to produce what is in the video without any real problems. Creating your own designs is a whole new challenge, but as long as you start with simple stuff and forgiving materials then its not that difficult.

[@heinzhaupthaar5590]

Where's the unique tool changer part? Direct clamping and linear magazines have been around for decades, that's pretty basic. Am I missing something substantial?

[@ameliabuns4058]

jesus these guys use linear rails for every single thing on this machine! those things coost moneyz

[@yaad2226]

tell us the price before u tell us about its function because if price is high no use of having it one can buy high price product from various company

[@IVAN_ENT]

want need

[@riskototh]

It's so slow, that it's not cutting, but grinding... And not only the material, but also the tool...

[@techydiy]

You are presumably talking about cutting the fr4 pcb. Fr4 fibreglass is a tough material to cut accurately . Obviously when it comes to the plastics and aluminium then it cuts larger chips.

[@drawmaster77]

looks extremely slow and redundant..its gonna take two weeks to make a part lol

[@ahndeux]

Shut up and take my money!

[@schwarzarbyter]

over 3000$ haha. for this money you can buy like 20x 3018 cnc machies :D

[@jorgevelasco5283]

But depend of your budget and your space smartest boy in hearth, Jesús how many people are toxic be happy smartest boy

[@subhradeepsharma]

I dont have money