Despicable Me 4 - Untitled Review Show

The SIXTH movie is out in this franchise. Does it still have the laughs like it did before? I mean...it's the SIXTH one, what do you think? Doug takes a look at Despicable Me 4.
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Despicable Me 4 is a 2024 American animated comedy film produced by Universal Pictures and Illumination, and distributed by Universal. It serves as the sequel to Despicable Me 3 (2017), the fourth main installment, and the sixth overall installment in the Despicable Me franchise. The film was directed by Chris Renaud, co-directed by Patrick Delage (in his feature directorial debut), produced by Chris Meledandri and Brett Hoffman, and written by Mike White and Ken Daurio. It stars the voices of Steve Carell, Kristen Wiig, Pierre Coffin, Joey King, Miranda Cosgrove, Steve Coogan, Sofía Vergara, Renaud, Madison Polan, Dana Gaier, Chloe Fineman, with Stephen Colbert, and Will Ferrell. The story follows Gru and his family as they are relocated to a safe house to hide from Maxime Le Mal, an old rival of Gru who seeks revenge.
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[@ChannelAwesome]

Happy 4th of July!!

[@deshawnedwards6412]

Happy 4th Doug! 🎉🎇🎆

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Happy 4th of July 🎉🎉🎉

[@alfredoramirez127]

You too.

[@chasehedges6775]

Same, Doug 🇺🇸🇺🇸💯

[@anthonycollins2383]

Happy 4th, Doug!

[@Danominator]

Adding a baby doesnt add a character, it adds a baby.

[@hunterolaughlin]

It could’ve worked though if we would’ve gotten the gorls’ feelings on having not only a brother, but being step-siblings to a biological child. Exploring the concept of how adopted siblings would view their step-siblings would’ve at least salvaged it, but I think that’s too smart or interesting for this film to do and I have a bad feeling they hardly focus on it.

[@Angel_Investor_Music]

Maggie from the Simpsons is probably the only baby character who acts like a real baby but also has some personality.

[@ShadowtheYouTuber523]

​@@Angel_Investor_MusicStewie from Family Guy is also one

[@Angel_Investor_Music]

@@ShadowtheKZbinr523 He doesn't behave like a real baby, though. He's more like a grown man in a baby's body.

[@ShadowtheYouTuber523]

@@Angel_Investor_Music yeah pretty much but there are times when he does act like a baby like the episode where he creates an evil clone, there he laughs at his feet.

[@fandomonium3789]

It seems like they wanted to make a despicable me TV show, and the project got axed, so they stitched a season of sitcom plotlines together into a movie.

[@vitor2194]

@@fandomonium3789 that's exactly what I had in mind when I finished watching it

[@Nidothing418]

Exactly

[@gryphonofmight]

That....honestly feels accurate

[@Goos836]

@@fandomonium3789 this actually summarizes my thoughts perfectly. It did not feel like a film 😭

[@tonyroot3047]

@@fandomonium3789 yes I felt the same way too while watching it!

[@almightyk11]

What bothers me the most is that the youngest girl is still a freaking toddler

[@hunterolaughlin]

@@almightyk11 You’d think she’d be early elementary school age like 6 or 7.

[@almightyk11]

@@hunterolaughlin Considering part of the plot of the third one involved the oldest becoming a teenager, yeah

[@rckblzr]

The series has never been consistent with character ages. Kind of like how Gru looks the same in both Minion movies despite taking place 8 years apart.

[@Gorilla-r4g]

@@rckblzrI thought it was 8 months apart

[@Nerdtendo6366]

Cinema employees watching a bunch of Teens to Young Adults in tuxedos walking into a mid kids movie:

[@Depth217]

Yeah I know it’s a meme but I still think it’s silly that a whole generation of kids are grown up and legitimately do all that for this. Blaaaaa.

[@AngelWingsYT]

had to work it thankfully the ones we got didnt trash the theater tht i seen thankfully none for this movie

[@RandomguyfromtheinternetN1]

Nah. The meme is dead

[@wittybanter96]

Or Vector costumes

[@HalE14]

I SWEAR that’s the reason the Minions randomly have suits when they work at AVL!!

[@al.109]

Everytime I think of the current quality of the Despicable Me franchise, I go back to the stuff you said in your Transformers 5 video: "But this series, for whatever reason, is never affected. They always make tons and tons of money" "It is so tired and repetitive..." "You have the right to demand better....You have the right to demand more exciting crap"

[@Depth217]

@@al.109 and ironically Transformers 5 was finally when audiences decided they were done with Bay serving the same stuff but much, much worse, and it bombed and they basically rebooted. I can only pray that eventually Minions and Illumination get a hard, hard lesson eventually that luck runs out like Transformers did. And I say that as a lifelong Transformers fan.

[@waled7564]

The only thing that's kept these moves going is the lazy parenting and how parents of today want their kids to shut up instead of teacher them something useful

[@pennysanchez7656]

Its official, Despicable Me is the new Ice Age.

[@chasehedges6775]

Sooooo true.

[@larrylaffer3246]

Well they are directed by the same guy so it's not that far off.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@larrylaffer3246 💯

[@HuladeHoopla]

I still think 3 was the best and 4 was. OK but great as an ending point. Same here. 2 was good 3 was a good ending. Why are we still making these.

[@larrylaffer3246]

@@HuladeHoopla "💰."

[@ascenciopictures]

My biggest issue with the film is that it has artificial stakes. It claims that Gru and his family are in danger, but you never see them be in danger. For example, the scene in the grocery store. The trailer made me think a supervillain was attacking Lucy and the girls, but no. It was just a random woman who had beef with Lucy. The villain that claims to be on the hunt for Gru is barely seen being on the hunt for Gru; all you get is hilarious evil antics while he flies around. Also, the film sets up plotlines that go nowhere like Margo (who's barely in the movie), struggling with moving to a new school, and Agnes not wanting to use her fake name. What I did like was the Mega Minions and the bond that forms with Gru and the neighbor's daughter (a little bit). Also Agnes. I love Agnes.

[@gtdc4685]

They were hyping up the villain so much, and Gru managed to beat him and his flying vehicle with no minions and no gadgets.

[@gryphonofmight]

@@gtdc4685 it felt empty as a result

[@gtdc4685]

​@@gryphonofmight Agreed

[@numbersbubble]

biggest flaw with the movies is that everyone has the same power level

[@JohnColson-rd8du]

I agree Doug. A movie should have comical jokes to entertain audiences. Films don't need characters moving at the same certain pace just to make kids happy. They need emotion , they power , they need to have certain traits to get audiences into what's happening in the film.

[@gryphonofmight]

exactly

[@nas0518]

Darn straight.

[@AshParth560]

OF COURSE

[@chasehedges6775]

@@AshParth560 👍

[@magnusm4]

We forget that kids movies back then had everything. Horror, happiness, humour and sadness. And it got hectic and then slowed down. Let you take in the moment.

[@nine_tails137]

To borrow a quote from Linkara: "Teach kids to laugh at clever humor, not "Norg has a cold"." Also as PhantomStrider once said: "Even if you say "it's just for kids, it's not like adults have to like it", that's not entirely true. Parents often have to see these movies with their kids. So they have to be written with some intelligence and insight, while also being entertaining to kids. That's the magic of a good kids cartoon."

[@chasehedges6775]

THIS👍💯

[@nine_tails137]

@@chasehedges6775 Glad you agree. I'm sick of crappy writing in modern kids movies. That's why I often re-watch shows like Animaniacs, as well as classic Disney movies like Aladdin, the Lion King, and Lilo & Stitch.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@nine_tails137 Older movies are better.

[@nine_tails137]

@@chasehedges6775 Definitely! It's why I barely consume any new animated movies, and instead stick with the old ones. I think the most recent animated movie I saw was Across the Spider-verse back in 2023?

[@AshParth560]

That's honestly too true.

[@Hail2daking]

I got the impression that this would be the last one because it ended with all the characters from the movies all dancing.

[@Hail2daking]

@phillipclearman859 It's a song from tears for fears.

[@IllusiveDev]

God I wish this was true but these movies make way too much money.

[@Hail2daking]

@IllusiveDev They might just keep focusing on the prequels instead because people keep bashing the despicable me sequels and they make less money .

[@gtdc4685]

🎶Everybody wants to rule the world🎵

[@richardthepastamancer6619]

Are you telling me gru smashed?

[@klimmr]

6:01 To be fair, they do play around with the Spider-Man 2 reference. When the stretchy Minion stops the train, you're thinking, "Oh, he stopped the train like in Spider-Man 2." But no, it actually gets flung backwards and hits the side of a building!

[@gtdc4685]

I honestly found the movie funny

[@mychaeljones7526]

I mean I already seen that in a trailer several times. So it's a chuckle at best.

[@Pangster]

I enjoyed a little There's a few references I enjoy, like the battlefield track at the mall chase scene and the Honey badger just don't care

[@ringkunmori]

If it wasn't for those commercials making fun of AI, people would be accusing this movie of being written by AI

[@Danominator]

For all we know...

[@anthonynugget701]

@@ringkunmori is that the new word people just throw around now

[@ScooterinAB]

I was thinking the same thing. It's like the "Charts" bit became sentient and is making charts movies now. We know there's a person actually making those bland decisions because there's always been people doing that, but it does make you wonder.

[@Danominator]

@@anthonynugget701 It's the buzzword of the year! Just accept it into your standard vocabulary so you're more prepared to CONSUME PRODUCT!

[@Impulse001]

People complain about companies adopting buzzwords but the public does exactly the same. Nowadays saying that something you don't like was made with AI has become the norm regardless of how much sense it makes. I have seriously read comments of people accusing 6 years old shows of this u_u

[@DarkOverlord96]

I love how right after people saying that Illumination "redeemed themselves" after making The Super Mario Bros. Movie for being a somewhat decent videogame movie (mostly because Nintento were breathing down their necks) they released the *SIXTH* Despicable Me/Minions and they were like "Oh yeah this is the animation studio that ruined animated movies worse than DreamWorks." It's the reason why I can't bring myself to hate "modern Disney and Pixar" because at least their animated movies feel like they're trying a bit more than Illumination just making "animated kids movies"... or "cinematic babysitters" as Doug says.

[@crazyalarmstudios2012]

Illumination has and likely never will be about telling you a genuinely heartfelt and at times philosophical story. They’re there for one thing: money and entertainment.

[@johans3164]

To be fair, Mario movie animation was beyond gorgeous. Then these despicable me franchise reminding you of their true horror

[@pennysanchez7656]

I feel that DM is pretty much having the Ice Age syndrome all over again.

[@johans3164]

@@pennysanchez7656 sadly yes. The first one was good. The others are.....sigh

[@myriadmediamusings]

I suppose that’s why people are hard on Disney/Pixar when they mess up because they have a quality standard. But yeah compared to what else is out there even their perceived failures are still better. Illumination, woof oh boy their average is soooo average. They should make the audience turn into Thanos and lament perhaps they treated Disney too harshly.

[@GokuUzumaki03]

An interesting take for the next Despicable Me movie *(which the director will most likely never consider)* is to do a time skip for the girls grow up. Maybe Margo starting her freshman year, Edith starting 7th grade, and Agnes starting 5th grade. The movie could be about Gru and Lucy struggling to balance out their job while helping out the girls with school work and raising Gru Jr. There could be a boy that falls in love with Margo, the boy’s parent (or parents) could be a villain,& the final battle taking place at high school prom.

[@kmmk5022]

That would be interesting. I had a similar idea. My idea for a next movie would be a movie that would take place a few years after the fourth movie and it focuses more on the girls and Gru Jr. Fleshing the four out more as characters. Maybe the villain for the movie captures Gru and Lucy, and it’s up to the four of them to rescue them. It would be a good opportunity to get some action scenes with the four of them and really highlight their sibling dynamics. I’ve also had this idea of Margo getting a love interest but I also had an idea of maybe Edith getting her first crush as well. I know she was grossed out with romance in the second movie but maybe we could maybe have Edith slowly mature and start to view romance as not as gross as she thought before. Though if Edith were to have a love interest, how would you vision them? Personality, gender, appearance?

[@jeremiahwalker3795]

Too bad the characters never age

[@jeremiahgreen5632]

It was unfortunately confirmed that the characters are frozen in time, which is stupid.

[@gryphonofmight]

they have confirmed they will not age up the chracters

[@GokuUzumaki03]

I know. I have mentioned it in my comment. “(Which the director will most likely never consider)”

[@kamikazelemming1552]

To me, the films lost their charm once Gru stopped being despicable, and just became a funny dad.

[@ascenciopictures]

@@kamikazelemming1552 Cinema Therapy made that exact same point.

[@GuninGames]

You know that's the exact same issue with the Shrek movies

[@DanGamingFan2406]

​@@GuninGamesYeah, except that with Shrek, the 4th film is at least a little better than the 3rd.

[@daydreamsonpaper425]

Lol isnt that the end of the first movie p much? 😂

[@JaevhonDouglas]

​@@GuninGamesnaw

[@terabitez3374]

Their was one joke that did actually land pretty hard in my theater near the beginning of the film and it involved gru being gone so long that his wife asks if he remembered to bring home some milk that’s a decent dark joke

[@gryphonofmight]

i missed that part

[@MauFerrer2000]

Ever since the second movie they could've explored deeper themes like Gru's relationship with his mother, the lack of afrection he had as a child and why he decided to become a villain. Instead they choose to make without substance only to make more money, fine I guess.. 🤷‍♂️

[@kmmk5022]

Something I did wish the film did was have the three daughters have more agency in the movie. Like they could’ve had some stuff about Margo struggling to fit into her new school and maybe her and Poppy forming a friendship or something Maybe have something about Anges struggling with being in Edith’s shadow and trying to become her own person. Maybe have something about her standing up to the karate instructor and beating him in a fight or something

[@javierfebronio8907]

Not to mention in the 3rd movie, Gru learning that his father (that he never met) just died is treated as an afterthought 🤦‍♂

[@Du-yw1pz]

@@kmmk5022 Or matter of a fact to make up for the girls' lack of screentime. Give them their own spin off prequel film where it shows how they became orphans. And the plot could be a little similar to the Powerpuff girls movie. That way this could also give them depth and flesh them out more as characters to. Because that's what I personally want to see

[@BreadHart]

At least the previous movie had the novelty of having Trey Parker in it.

[@invadermarkb]

yeah I enjoyed his character more than Will Ferrell’s in this film. Will Ferrell’s character just felt mediocre to me 🤷‍♀️

[@jeremypayne2040]

I felt like after the 2nd the franchise went downhill. The 3rd one had an interesting villain with a gimmick. This one felt like let’s take a bunch of short stories and combine them together to make a film.

[@Nerdtendo6366]

I rather have a memorably bad film than a forgettable film any days of the week

[@chasehedges6775]

AGREED💯💯💯

[@sheridan140]

Interesting thought!

[@ketaminepoptarts]

at least if its memorably bad you can have fun laughing at how bad it is, instead of being bored for an hour or two and forgetting about it after a day

[@gryphonofmight]

yea thats fair

[@monsterkid_s]

Is it just me or does the villain look like they just ripped off Dr. Doofenshmitz's design?

[@ActuatedGear]

Why is this minion green? PERRY THE PLATYPUS?!

[@gryphonofmight]

oh, crap you are right

[@AshParth560]

And gave him a wife, too! Which now I can't unsee that. 😂

[@theitfactorjameswheezer2852]

The ending Song by Pharrell being a secret Drake diss track is the funniest part of the film imo

[@hopegalaxy]

And that's all.

[@devonchafe2764]

Despicable Me 7: Gru May Need Glasses

[@chasehedges6775]

Along with FILING ROYAL TAXES LOL

[@AdamWielgosz]

Despicable Me 8: Gru Answers the Census

[@ryanwhittier7314]

@@devonchafe2764 Despicable Me 9: Gru files for divorce.

[@mryesgaming]

despicable me 10 : gru wants to die so he seeks a therapist

[@GabrielPowers-b7s]

Despicable Me 11, Gru gets a timeshare

[@MultiMaker_Studios]

This is franchise is like the opposite of Shrek. Shrek has 3 good movies and 1 bad movie, Shrek has good memes, Shrek had spin offs that were good, Shrek had effort and heart put into it.

[@chasehedges6775]

EXACTLY!

[@chasehedges6775]

SHREK 2 and Puss In Boots The Last Wish are still AWESOME

[@Churrowhisperer]

3 good movies? But shrek 3 and 4 were both bad. Sure 3 was worse but I don’t even remember any jokes from 4. I at least remember some of the bad jokes from 3.

[@MultiMaker_Studios]

@@Churrowhisperer Imo 3 was bad and 4 was good. 4 wasn't at the same peak as 1 and 2 but I still think there were good qualities to it so like an 8/10 or A-

[@Zikkar]

This is honestly exactly what I expected from this movie.

[@chasehedges6775]

Same TBH.

[@ThePmbstudios]

People: Kung Fu Panda 4 is a terrible sequel! Despicable Me 4: Hold my beer.

[@ActuatedGear]

The character motivations make zero freakin sense in KFP4. NONE. It has all the pieces, but they just never come together. A sad imitation of former greatness, just like the villain.

[@jacksykes4680]

2024: the year of bad fourth movies

[@GabrielOsiuhwu]

@@ThePmbstudios i dont think kung Fu panda 4 was that bad it got pretty good ratings.

[@ThePmbstudios]

@@GabrielOsiuhwu I didn't it was that bad either, but still pales in comparison to the first 3.

[@jeremiahgreen5632]

@@jacksykes4680 Hilarious considering that this is the fourth year of the 2020s

[@johnnysasaki]

many people thought Super Mario Bros was a sign of Illumination improving and making stuff other than 'babysitter movies" like Doug put it,but let's be real: Super Mario turned out better than that only because Nintendo was there on their necks to make sure they wouldn't turn their characters into generic unfunny(except for little kids) Illumination ones.

[@jordandutra9029]

I completely agree dude.

[@imtyler99yearsago90]

If Nintendo for some reason wasn't with Illumination when they made "The Super Mario Bros. Movie" would it be filled with fart jokes ever few minutes and make the audience feel like the creators of the movie follow the saying "loud = funny"?

[@LTAHour]

Despicable Me 6: Dude, where's my Minions? Oh right, they were cut from the movie because they talk too much!

[@zacharyemmett1784]

“What kind of title’s that”

[@LTAHour]

Hey, what are you doin' out here? The party's inside!

[@kmmk5022]

A movie where the minions get stolen? Wait didn’t they technically already do that with the sequel where El Macho took them and turned them into those purple minions

[@thetruekingofwaffles]

@kmmk5022 really unless they develop the characters they already have in some way the franchise will stagnate (though they made the characters unaging so perhaps that's what they want)

[@stitchlover4381]

I think I would rather go see Inside Out 2 again.

[@waiken3727]

yup inside out 2 is so much better than this movie it's not even close

[@stitchlover4381]

@@waiken3727 despicable me 4 just like Kung fu panda 4 and toy story 4 is just a cash grab that nobody wanted and is devoid of any creativity and comedy. The only good thing was the animation and I do find that badger really adorable. But that's it.

[@hunterolaughlin]

@@stitchlover4381 “You have chosen wisely.” - Indiana Jonas and the Last Crusade

[@G4neralTuga]

The minion franchise is the Defenition of missed potential and execution Edit: I think people missed what I meant, but to be honest I don't blame them, I've should've said this in more details than justa lame ass comment, What I meant was that the minion franchise could have been good, and yes, the first movie could've had some changes but it could've worked otherwise, and the first movie isn't bad, it's actually pretty good, but the rest of the franchise was badly executed, they went too hard on the, stupid and dim-witted humour, boring and platitudinious storytelling, and the stupid ass minions guapaligoo! Were quirky and we love bananas sthick that the idea and potential of the movies went down the drain, I can imagine minions as more cartoony and slapsticky and weird, since they speak in a frenchish mixed with english and spanish and a bit gibberish, and are all different in appearence, height and the number of eyes, and in the first movie were more for a side gag and slapstick moments than to be the focus of the movies, I thought if they'd sticked around with the inital intention it could create a more tolerable version of the minions, plus the first movie had heart and a soul, the rest has nothing, no heart or soul, and nothing good what so ever, except for el macho, if the movies were more like a dreamworks/warner brothers film and everything above, and less babyish brain rot content it could've had been great, but the money talked louder and now this is what we got!

[@PikaLink91]

No it's the definition of brain rot.

[@waled7564]

If you said that's back in 2010s when minions filmes were New i will agree but now things are different and beyond fix

[@Markimark151]

Dear animation studios, please don’t make fourth movies of animated trilogies! Toy Story, Shrek, Kung Fu Panda, didn’t need a fourth movie! Despicable Me already has spin-offs and web series that makes this movie redundant!

[@Gorilla-r4g]

Leave Shrek out of this, it was a step up from Shrek 3

[@Markimark151]

@@Gorilla-r4g Shrek the third wasn’t that bad, it’s the Spider Man 3 of Dreamworks, it’s not as good as the first two movies.

[@RNGvideoinator]

shrek 4 is a masterpiece and no one will tell me otherwise

[@Markimark151]

@@RNGvideoinator it’s not a masterpiece, it’s an okay movie but still unnecessary.

[@Psychologicaldeformality]

Those all need a 5th movie

[@myriadmediamusings]

Irritated that this will ultimately dethrone Inside Out 2.

[@WhyYouLookingHereBoy]

"Irritated" nah brother, you should be happy.

[@larrylaffer3246]

Well maybe not dethrone but it has almost made 2X it's $70M budget back. So much like Migration before it it'll at least pay for itself.

[@aidanredding8058]

I don't know about that, Inside Out 2 has already made more money than all of the previous Despicable Me films except for the first Minions movie. And Rise of Gru didn't do as well as the previous films in the series so I can't see this one topping that.

[@rckblzr]

It’ll make money, but it won’t make Inside Out 2 money.

[@larrylaffer3246]

@@rckblzr Which is fine as it just needs to make enough to turn a profit. Plus if it can pay for any possible losses incurred by DreamWorks' Ruby Gillerman and Kung Fu Panda 4 plus The Megamind 2 stuff that went nowhere.

[@thepeacefulbuddah]

One thing I always give Illumination credit for is their backgrounds. I guess I'm a fan of detailed accurate backgrounds, an example of that is Brooklyn in the Mario movie. I thought it looked gorgeous.

[@exeshow2.0]

@thepeacefulbuddah yeah, in DM4, the scene where the mega Minions are doing Superhero stuff in the city and I saw that one of the background buildings was literally just called "Hotel & Apts" and I kinda thought that was funny lol

[@kmmk5022]

Something I did wish the film did was have the three daughters have more agency in the movie. Like they could’ve had some stuff about Margo struggling to fit into her new school and maybe her and Poppy forming a friendship or something Maybe have something about Anges struggling with being in Edith’s shadow and trying to become her own person. Maybe have something about her standing up to the karate instructor and beating him in a fight or something

[@johnharris6655]

They need to let the girls age up. How can they have a baby and the girls are the same age as the first film.

[@hunterolaughlin]

@@johnharris6655 Or the second film. Didn’t Agnes have a birthday in that film, implying the gorls aged a year since the first film? Now I’m wondering what was the point of the birthday scene if the gorls aren’t going to grow up.

[@kmmk5022]

@@hunterolaughlinI think aging them up would be a good idea. Plus I think it would be a good idea of the three taking part in the missions

[@the-sillycate]

Poppy was an unnecessary character to begin with (I haven't watched the movie tho) I believe her role could've been taken by either Dru or one of the girls without problem

[@PikaLink91]

So with all these forced references this movie is essentially Conker's Bad Fur Day without the profanity or swearing?

[@chasehedges6775]

Cinematic Babysitters is soooo accurate

[@heyitsarkie]

Yeah, the Despicable Me franchise should’ve ended years ago, considering JUST HOW disappointed the third one was. But, then again, I did enjoy Rise of Gru, sooooooo…

[@Nasser851000]

Minions be taking over the world more than Gru is XD

[@AshParth560]

And soon they will become American Deities like they were mentioned in The Mortal Engines movie. XD

[@chasehedges6775]

@@AshParth560😂😂😂

[@chasehedges6775]

Madness rules the wold, at least as far as real life is concerned.

[@YangTheAce]

​@AshParth560 Lmao🤣 I remember that. And it's all because both movies were made by Universal studios.

[@samseddmedia]

I don't care if the movie is "just a kid's movie". I just want the movie to have something to relate to, something that a lot of Illumination's animated movies are missing (except for "Despicable Me" and "The Super Mario Bros. Movie"). They need to just let the writers write and stop playing it safe (even though that might go beyond their budget). Sometimes Illumination is just doing it for Universal. However, in my opinion, even the bad movies can be enjoyable if you choose to enjoy these poorly made movies. (I even enjoyed "Sing 2") Although, I believe that you're right about having the jokes actually be funny. I sure hope that Illumination stops this creativity-limiting budgeting with their movies, but I do understand why they're still doing it since Universal owns them. Although, I respect everyone's opinions (even yours).

[@gryphonofmight]

These feel AI written

[@SnooziacTM]

The 3rd movie felt like a few TV episodes that were cobbled into a film.

[@RussianJackal]

Same year as “despicable me”, we got “megamind”, and actually well done and interesting movie about the balance and subjectivity of good and evil. And it sank because of those annoying, yet incredibly marketable yellow bastards. Yeah, yeah, a sequel is in the works, but too little too late. “Despicable” should have been a one-shot.

[@hunterolaughlin]

@@RussianJackal I’m actually glad we at least got the second film. If another Despicable Me film should exist besides the first film, I’d definitely pick the second film. At least that one felt like it was actually continuing the story and exploring Gru’s post-villainy life raising the gorls and at least the Minions had an integral role as part of the villain’s plan.

[@deshawnedwards6412]

Best part of the film was the ending with the cover of Everybody Want to Rule the World. Cause it's re-introduced all the films past villains together for the first time in the series. Something that I wanted to see in a Despicable Me sequel is all the previous villains coming together to get revenge on Gru. That would of made for better idea for a sequel. Also SPOILER. Vector appealing did somehow made it back to Earth sometimes after the Mooned Short and also why it is that Scarlet and Herb clearly show that they've aged while the Vicious 6 seems to haven't age a day?

[@charliecoccia8875]

@@deshawnedwards6412 Vector was likely rescued from Mars by the AVL but considering his crimes in the first film he was put in prison along with his father who probably was also arrested by the AVL.

[@paulgering7703]

Hearing this review, one word popped into my head: CORPORATE. It sounds like a corporate entity wrote this movie, which sounds like it is a very common problem with movies today.

[@undergamer1361]

0:01 - Sounds great, Doug.

[@denverarnold6210]

It sounds like they literally just threw a handful of darts at ideas, and put them in to make a paycheck.

[@davidrothman5258]

I started to hate the minions on the 3rd movie.

[@evenhartwick4422]

yeah they definitely wore out their welcome. not only do i find them super annoying now i kinda get physically angry just at the sight of them

[@Nostalgic80s-nd3qb]

Your not the only one.

[@m.jewel.s]

I think the biggest disappointment for me in this movie was the plot itself. Why were there so many meaningless subplots? There were so many loose ends!? At about the 1 hour15 minute mark, I clicked to see how much time was left on the movie. To my shock there was only about 10 minutes left and I was sitting there wondering how in the world they were going to tie everything together in that amount of time... I mean, for f--ks sake... Only 10 minutes left in the movie and the protagonist hasn't even really made a significant appearance?! Huge, HUGE disappointment. DM1 is and will always be #1. Aside from DM2, the rest of them have basically been moving colors and loud sounds.

[@trinaq]

They really should stop running this franchise into the ground. There's four main movies, a Minions spin-off, a prequel...

[@chasehedges6775]

I definitely agree.

[@LucyLoud_Fan]

And not to mention the amount of minion shorts they made…

[@kylewilliams8028]

Agreed, this should be the last one. Especially since Illumination has a goldmine of Nintendo material to work with now.

[@evenhartwick4422]

@@kylewilliams8028 unfortunately no franchise ends these days until they stop being profitable and these movies pull in a billion or at least close to it every installment the lowest grossing entry is the first and even that did a very respectable 540 million they aint ending this until one of them massively bombs

[@1WolfFan]

*Wacky Waving Real Live Human Hands + 90s EXTREME voice* - "IN THREE DEE!!!!" I don't remember Tropes' name for that, but I like my version too. ;)

[@superzilla784]

If you give Gru a moustache, a red jacket and glasses... Gru looks like Dr. Robotnik... Was this an origin story this whole time?

[@spaceace4387]

The Spider Man 2 joke was that in Spider Man 2, Spider Man saved a train full of people, however the Super Minion just made things worse. It was funny.

[@noahthompson5030]

I would kill for a nostalgia critic of this (also happy 4th doug)

[@SharpDesign]

When I heard Gru's family going into witness protection, I was like, okay, this villain must be badass, super intimidating or one of the villains from Rise of Gru coming back for revenge years later, still alive. Then, it's like, meh?

[@optimascrime5235]

I was fatigued when they did a Minions spinoff.....I mean I haven't seen Despicable Me 3 and minions rise of gru but after seeing the 4th one, I don't know if I should

[@ras_732]

6:31 Interestingly, this is actually Pump It Up not DDR as the stomp pads in PIU have 5 panels (Four in Corners and One Middle), whereas DDR have the generic 4-Panel.

[@wespapes2054]

Despicable Me 5: You Asked for This?

[@midnightgirlofthelunarmoon1164]

Minions 3: Any day now...

[@ironfox4990]

@@wespapes2054 Despicable Me 6: You are in Hell

[@ethanstoeckel3901]

Despicable me 7: PLEASE GRU GO BACK TO BEING A VILLAN!

[@wespapes2054]

@@ethanstoeckel3901 Despicable Me 8: WAIT THE KIDS HAVEN'T AGED?!?

[@originalwheat4917]

Minions 4: not even TikTok will like this one

[@maravreloaded]

DM villains be like: Bill Gates. Mexican. Freddy Mercury. Now: *_Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz._*

[@cleio81]

I actually think it's important that kids movies have substance. even if it's not complicated. empty drivel, even for kids, is not good for them. it's just flashy brain rot.

[@gryphonofmight]

exactly

[@natofato1]

The reason that a lot of movies are putting characters directly in the middle of the frame while leaving the foreground to the left and right empty is because they want to make sure it adapts to vertical tiktok trailers.

[@keithmichael9965]

This movie was so mid. The humor was centered on the minions hurting each other. The plot was devoid of anything interesting. The villain was absolutely the worst. Even Will Ferrell couldn't save this. The villian's ship was a rip off. The baby hates Gru until he takes the baby on a heist. Ralph in the vending machine. My daughter didn't laugh once. The movie throws out the idea that Gru is a genius. Why is he going into witness protection when he has an underground lair?

[@evenhartwick4422]

this series really lost track of Gru as a character in general. they really had no idea what to do with him after the second movie. i mean he's hardly even in the disciple be 4 trailers you'd think this was just a minions 3

[@kmmk5022]

If they were to make another film, I hope the fifth movie focuses more on the girls. To me, the girls are a major part of despicable me. Not just the minions and Gru. The three are just as major as them. Though with Lucy and the baby added in and with all the minion antics, we don’t really get too much of the girls even though in the original movie, they played a big role. Maybe for another movie, it can take place a few years after the fourth movie, maybe it could focus a lot more on Margo, Edith, Anges and Gru Junior and explore their sibling dynamic more Maybe Gru and Lucy get captured by the villain of the movie and the four have to go on a mission to rescue their parents And as some fun side plots, maybe have Margo have another love interest. Though it’s already been done in the second movie but why not? Maybe she has trust issues due to what happiness with Antonio and is a lot more hesitant with her new crush and having to learn how to trust. I feel like trust is something she tends to struggle with. Though another thing we could do is maybe have Edith have her first crush. I know she gets grossed out with romance based on the sequel, but what if she slowly grows out of the whole cooties stage and eventually starts to develop feelings for someone and having to be vulnerable. Though if that were to happen, what would a love interest for her be like? Personality, appearance, gender?

[@perrytheplatypus4620]

The first Minions spinoff movie was the beginning of the end for me. Despicable Me 1 & 2 (especially the former) are still fairly enjoyable to me to this day.

[@tmntaddict]

I didn't even know there was a 4th.

[@gryphonofmight]

technically a 6th

[@jamememes4114]

2:41 "Awful stuff - but I do remember it!" 🤣🤣🤣

[@HurricaneDDragon]

These horrific character designs are animated so WELL!

[@Sold2059]

Doug I felt the same way! Literally every scene felt like "Ooo! let's do this plot with this character!" -writer drinks water and lets their ADHD kick in for the 76th time- "Actually nevermind, forget that plot! let's do this plot!"

[@gryphonofmight]

it feels like ideas for a failed tv show recycled for a movie

[@milestrombley1466]

They played that series out.

[@orlando3.0]

While I enjoyed seeing the villains from previous movies I still couldn’t get around one thing. All of the villains HATE Gru for ruining their master plans, why are they just suddenly cool with that and break dance with him by the end??

[@HedgehogY2K]

I don't like what Illumination is doing with the animation. The first movie's animation was so clean before they decided to switch to a motion blurred mess children don't like looking at. They wanna see clearly what they're laughing at as it's happening.

[@Double-R-Nothing]

THAT'S what's bothered me about their animation all these years!! That, and their character designs

[@maravreloaded]

Also. A baby. Superpowers. A villain hunting down the good guys and a protection program. I don't know what movie that reminds me of.

[@ljproductions4026]

After Despicable Me 2 (or the Minions spin-off movie) everything fell down and the franchise became a trash cash grab movie series where the title “Despicable Me” doesn’t even make since now

[@motor4X4kombat]

in a recent interview they reveal that the reason why the girls don't grow up is because they took simpson logic and they are frozen in time. My guess that the reason on why this entire franchise exist is because they want to be something closer to old school cartoons like looney tunes or tom and jerry where is nothing but gags and not trying to fall into the disney trap, but the reason why those cartoons still holod up is that they have an edge no other modern cartoon can top, even if is for adults like rick and morty. So something like the minions getting hurt won't literally and figurative have the same longing impact as tom getting hurt.

[@ironfox4990]

Back then animation seemed more appreciated as art form unlike now (besides Japan) it’s seen as inferior in today’s society.

[@kmmk5022]

If they were to make another film, I hope the fifth movie focuses more on the girls. To me, the girls are a major part of despicable me. Not just the minions and Gru. The three are just as major as them. Though with Lucy and the baby added in and with all the minion antics, we don’t really get too much of the girls even though in the original movie, they played a big role. Maybe for another movie, it can take place a few years after the fourth movie, maybe it could focus a lot more on Margo, Edith, Anges and Gru Junior and explore their sibling dynamic more Maybe Gru and Lucy get captured by the villain of the movie and the four have to go on a mission to rescue their parents And as some fun side plots, maybe have Margo have another love interest. Though it’s already been done in the second movie but why not? Maybe she has trust issues due to what happiness with Antonio and is a lot more hesitant with her new crush and having to learn how to trust. I feel like trust is something she tends to struggle with. Though another thing we could do is maybe have Edith have her first crush. I know she gets grossed out with romance based on the sequel, but what if she slowly grows out of the whole cooties stage and eventually starts to develop feelings for someone and having to be vulnerable. Though if that were to happen, what would a love interest for her be like? Personality, appearance, gender?

[@josebarrozo7620]

@@kmmk5022 You put more thought into this comment than Illumination does in this entire movie.

[@larrylaffer3246]

This feels like it should've gone directly to streaming. It's not good enough for theaters but would've been perfectly serviceable to watch on Netflix when you've got nothing better to do. Essentially it's what Megamind 2 should've been, which is a perfectly serviceable follow-up that doesn't make you want to bleach your eyes, swish your mouth with full-proof Everclear, and have a full hot coffee colonic after watching it just to get the taste out of your mouth.

[@YangTheAce]

How is did this movie won over 1 billion?! HOW IS IT SO BAD, BUT IT'S STILL WINNING?!?!

[@insectostrich4407]

I cannot believe they brought back the head of the villain bank and his son Vector just as a cameo in this film, instead of using him as the overarching antagonist for the sequels. You know, since Gru was the one who sent Vector into space I feel like his father “the head of the villain bank” would want to use all of his resources to get back at Gru in Despicable Me 2 and onward!

[@chasehedges6775]

THIS💯💯.

[@kenabi]

thats the next one, clearly.

[@dannyjorde2677]

If the only good thing you can say about a movie from a multi-billionaire animation company is the animation, we know it must be really bad

[@gryphonofmight]

sadly yes. which sucks because the series had so much potential

[@Michaelhernandez708]

They should just stop right here with Despicable Me. There was never a need for a fourth movie because the third one wasn’t particularly good same with kung fu panda they should just stop it at three. There is never need to expand it for fourth one the only franchises they need to focus on is Mario and that’s it And as for DreamWorks they need to focus on other things besides kung fu panda like give us Puss in boots 3.

[@kmmk5022]

If they were to make another film, I hope the fifth movie focuses more on the girls. To me, the girls are a major part of despicable me. Not just the minions and Gru. The three are just as major as them. Though with Lucy and the baby added in and with all the minion antics, we don’t really get too much of the girls even though in the original movie, they played a big role. Maybe for another movie, it can take place a few years after the fourth movie, maybe it could focus a lot more on Margo, Edith, Anges and Gru Junior and explore their sibling dynamic more Maybe Gru and Lucy get captured by the villain of the movie and the four have to go on a mission to rescue their parents And as some fun side plots, maybe have Margo have another love interest. Though it’s already been done in the second movie but why not? Maybe she has trust issues due to what happiness with Antonio and is a lot more hesitant with her new crush and having to learn how to trust. I feel like trust is something she tends to struggle with. Though another thing we could do is maybe have Edith have her first crush. I know she gets grossed out with romance based on the sequel, but what if she slowly grows out of the whole cooties stage and eventually starts to develop feelings for someone and having to be vulnerable. Though if that were to happen, what would a love interest for her be like? Personality, appearance, gender?

[@JoeHawkins-p9d]

Illumination is the perfect definition of those jokes the Oscar's said about animated movies

[@Chimcharlover13]

Doug is really getting up there in age. The older he gets, the harsher and more cynical he becomes. Sheez.

[@KJK97024]

If you think this is harsh and cynical, then you clearly haven’t seen his older reviews

[@gryphonofmight]

No, if anything he has mellowed

[@travisdelafuente1150]

Yeah the Minions and Gru have overstayed their welcome so they should end things here.

[@christopherl8568]

The fourth movie sequels that pissed people off: Indiana Jones: Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Toy Story 4 Kung Fu Panda 4 Despicable Me 4 😅

[@t59112]

Hotel Transylvania 4 Jaws 4 Ice Age 4 Superman IV Batman and Robin

[@chasehedges6775]

ACCURATE

[@chasehedges6775]

@@t59112 Ice Age 4 was OK. All those others? Still bad.

[@nas0518]

It goes on.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@nas0518 💯

[@baxterwilson368]

I recently watched a kids show on Peacock and there was only one ad break per episode, but it was the trailer for this movie, so I had to watch it 26 times! And I still have no idea what it’s about.

[@gryphonofmight]

You have my sympathies

[@JacktheLightningRipper]

I still really enjoy 1 and 2 and think 3 is ok, but I just did not know what to think of the trailer for this other than I don’t appreciate how it seemed to completely disregard the events of 3.

[@ChainsawDunDeez]

I just watched this movie... Doug is my complete internal monologue while watching this ...

[@Spiderman-wt8hb]

You know, I can understand the argument that it’s ok for kids films to be lighter and more comedic because it’s comforting for them, but I also feel that comedic animation needs some sense of passion and craft to it. The Looney Tunes are more sophisticated than most kids stuff even if they lean into mindless slapstick technically, but the reason they have lasted and have both kids and adults laughing is because of the craft of the jokes. It isn’t trying to give a message or heartfelt emotion, it’s just trying to make you laugh. These movies bother me not because of the oversaturation or that they lack ambition, it’s that they lack a sense of purpose or structure to anything other than distracting a kid for an hour and a half. It’s ok to give kids something more entertaining than insightful, but at least be bothered to put some effort into entertaining the kids instead of the bare minimum under the belief that they will just eat it up no matter what you put out.

[@chasehedges6775]

THIS💯💯💯

[@chasehedges6775]

We need more Animated movies like Prince Of Egypt and Puss In Boots The Last Wish. Or any of the classic animated Disney films. It’s not hard.

[@XzyroKyxala]

I just saw this movie in theaters on Saturday, I barely recall anything except from what you mentioned in the video. I do remember there was a full theater, and hardly any emotion in the crowd. I dont think I heard too many kids laughing at the comedy, let alone any adults.

[@jayneroberts1236]

The first one is really good. It has so much heart. I was really disappointed with that sequel

[@hunterolaughlin]

The second film had heart too and actually tried to be a legit sequel to the first film. The Minions and the third and fourth films I can understand being viewed as cash grabs and I’ll have to admit the writers were starting to run out of ideas by the third film.

[@evenhartwick4422]

@@hunterolaughlin i mean where do you even take a franchise called despicable me when the main character isn't despicable anymore. he's at best kinda a jerk sometimes but for the most part he's just a straight up super hero at this point.

[@hunterolaughlin]

@@evenhartwick4422 The second film already showed you where you take his character: by showing how far he’s come in his relationship with the gorls since he fully accepted them and decided to dedicate to fatherhood in addition to joining a secret organization dedicated to capturing super villains as an ex-villain would and finding a someone to be a mother to help with the gorls as a parent would. Need I say more?

[@alaricjaspers6348]

Wilbert Awdry once said: "When you're writing these stories, you're writing for a whole lot of people. You're writing for the unfortunate parents who have to read them time after time after time. You have to add little funny bits, subtle bits. Things that the adults reading will like. As well as the simple things children like." This should absolutely apply to movies too. A lot of the time, parents are right there next to the kids watching.

[@gryphonofmight]

exactly

[@theajaxs720]

I think it's worse for a movie to be bland than awful... because if it was just bad then you'd remember why it was bad. If it was bland then you wouldn't remember it by next week.

[@kmmk5022]

If they were to make another film, I hope the fifth movie focuses more on the girls. To me, the girls are a major part of despicable me. Not just the minions and Gru. The three are just as major as them. Though with Lucy and the baby added in and with all the minion antics, we don’t really get too much of the girls even though in the original movie, they played a big role. Maybe for another movie, it can take place a few years after the fourth movie, maybe it could focus a lot more on Margo, Edith, Anges and Gru Junior and explore their sibling dynamic more Maybe Gru and Lucy get captured by the villain of the movie and the four have to go on a mission to rescue their parents And as some fun side plots, maybe have Margo have another love interest. Though it’s already been done in the second movie but why not? Maybe she has trust issues due to what happiness with Antonio and is a lot more hesitant with her new crush and having to learn how to trust. I feel like trust is something she tends to struggle with. Though another thing we could do is maybe have Edith have her first crush. I know she gets grossed out with romance based on the sequel, but what if she slowly grows out of the whole cooties stage and eventually starts to develop feelings for someone and having to be vulnerable. Though if that were to happen, what would a love interest for her be like? Personality, appearance, gender?

[@IllusiveDev]

@@kmmk5022 While you make some excellent points... Minions = Money. The minions are pretty much the only reason these films do so well. Just look at the Minions spinoff movies and how much they made.

[@ZachMilneTalksMovies]

I have enjoyed this franchise in the past, but in this one it felt like they were more interested in doing a bunch of minion shorts and threw in a thin storyline for Gru to make it a feature length movie. I didn’t hate it, but I instantly forgot about it. Kids will love though, and I guess thats what matters.

[@manoftruth0935]

You are going to have to review these movies as Nostalgia Critic at some point, and make the minions “sing” it in their language.

[@LAQL31]

The target audience really was kids to the point where adults can’t even sit through this cause it sucks.

[@johnnysparkle]

So pretty much Shrek the Third of Despicable Me Movies

[@jeremiahhester6408]

I at least laugh a few times at Shrek the third

[@Zippy_Zolton]

I laughed watching this video at 2x speed more than the entirety of despicable me 2 and 3

[@ferminmarkpousada1455]

As someone who enjoyed the previous three Despicable Me movies, this one was just the worst. Even my mom, who loves these movies, didn't enjoy this one. Sometimes, there's a laugh here and there, and the layout is pretty good, but the writing is a mess. There's like 8 storylines, and some of them are not even finished, a lot of the story is miss potential, and there were too many characters, they could've cut some of them. Also, this is a nick pick, but it tries too hard to be like the first two movies. It has the same font of credits, it's shot in 1.85 instead of 2.35 like in DM3 and Minions 2, they even make a call back joke of Ramsbottom with the Minions. Even the new villain sucks, I was constatley reminding him as the alien croackoch of MIB, and how they defeat him is lame. Like (SPOILERS): Vector was traped in the moon, El Macho was electrucated by Lucy's lipstick taser, Balthazar Bratt is blowed away by his own keytar, and this guy is just punched by Gru and then falls in the building. LAME. Despicable Me 3 has it's issues, there were too many subplots, but at least they tried to developt those plots and give it a conclusion. And even if it's a bit less funny than 1 and 2, I still laughed watching. There was rarely a joke in Despicable Me 4 that made me giggle or laugh a bit, but there were no jokes that made me laugh out loud. I can see myself rewatching the first three movies and even Minions: Rise of Gru, but I don't see myself re-watching this one ever again.

[@kmmk5022]

If they were to make another film, I hope the fifth movie focuses more on the girls. To me, the girls are a major part of despicable me. Not just the minions and Gru. The three are just as major as them. Though with Lucy and the baby added in and with all the minion antics, we don’t really get too much of the girls even though in the original movie, they played a big role. Maybe for another movie, it can take place a few years after the fourth movie, maybe it could focus a lot more on Margo, Edith, Anges and Gru Junior and explore their sibling dynamic more Maybe Gru and Lucy get captured by the villain of the movie and the four have to go on a mission to rescue their parents And as some fun side plots, maybe have Margo have another love interest. Though it’s already been done in the second movie but why not? Maybe she has trust issues due to what happiness with Antonio and is a lot more hesitant with her new crush and having to learn how to trust. I feel like trust is something she tends to struggle with. Though another thing we could do is maybe have Edith have her first crush. I know she gets grossed out with romance based on the sequel, but what if she slowly grows out of the whole cooties stage and eventually starts to develop feelings for someone and having to be vulnerable. Though if that were to happen, what would a love interest for her be like? Personality, appearance, gender?

[@IllusiveDev]

I don't get liking 3 personally but 1 is great and 2 is okay.

[@mychaeljones7526]

I checked out of this franchise since the second movie. I was about 13-15. I am 32 now. My niece and nephew got me checked out.

[@hunterolaughlin]

I have a bad feeling when AniMat reviews the film, he’s going to give it the Seal of Garbage and seeing this review and hearing about the problems just CONFIRMS it. Update: Looks like I was wrong. AniMat turned out to have a good time with the film even with its problems.

[@koopadude1]

Or at best a 5 out of 10.

[@hunterolaughlin]

@@koopadude1 I highly doubt it with the story being a mess with all these side plots.

[@claymathewselevator8121]

Should’ve got Robert Patrick to do a voice as well if they knew they were doing a Terminator 2 reference

[@gryphonofmight]

that would have gotten a chuckle out of adults

[@gerawallstar3487]

Despicable Me 8: We got to have money

[@kevintrjohnson]

For me, I could overlook the flaws of the first movie because it felt like an absurdist allegory for not feeling worthy to be a parent--even the whole stealing the moon just seemed to have come from the idea of giving somebody the moon like in It's a Wonderful Life. It helped that the three little girls matched up almost exactly with my three much younger adopted sisters (I'm the same age as their bio father), all the way down to being roughly the same ages. The rest of the movies took the concept of Gru being a (former) supervillain much more literally and the series suffers for it, in my opinion.