Destiny 2 Lore - Rhulk's Worm experiments in Vow of the Disciple. The Caretaker's lore & Origins!

[@sammyboehm2936]

I can’t believe how deeply Rhulk is wormed into the lore

[@us_is_we9263]

My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined

[@casartherandom3010]

...I hate it.

[@gonnerkat8753]

aha.

[@Real28]

@@thenedsmmachannel8970 WOOOOOOOSHHHH

[@nicknelson3234]

Ba dum tiss

[@Aleenul]

The ice holding those scorn experiments really reminds me of what Drifter described finding on that frozen planet

[@grexs1]

Now that we have had plenty of experience with the darkness, I want another drifter season where we really explore his history with it.

[@Machosause]

@@grexs1 but I don't wanna play gambit 😭

[@spencerwickersham4398]

I’m glad you think that too! I was worried I was the only one who still thinks about that!

[@JohnKerans]

Exactly what I thought

[@sargentvanguard7612]

You mean europa? It ain't frozen, it's cold

[@ieatbeanz3955]

Still love how his kick attack is “Savage strike”

[@TheMoonchild06]

I just call it the nae nae

[@tarikderrick208]

Ik u be on xenoverse

[@tippercircle3090]

That’s because he is a savage

[@omegasauce6172]

His little tortoilini pasta looking projectiles should be called “unleash the draco”

[@pluto3194]

Seeing someone get kicked out of existence will never get old. Literally the best part of the Rhulk fight.

[@ConnorRambles]

Even more than Fikrul, when we remember that the Machinist was also brought back to life post-campaign (heroic public event on the former Tangled Shore), I really wonder if we won't see the Mindbender returning? If Scorn can be revived freely, and the Mindbender tried experimenting with the worms and Dark Ether first, it seems like a great chance to capitalize on some of that unused potential for one of the most interesting Scorn Barons.

[@axelkusanagi4139]

Didn't we kill the Mindbender in his own throne world though? Until we figure out how Oryx comes back, we won't see the Mindbender again. Still, I can't remember where I heard it, but I think someone predicted Scorn with worms and brimming with taken energy as the forces of Darkness consolidated their forces.

[@maxdagesse127]

@@axelkusanagi4139 We did kill the Mindbender in his throne world, but the Scorn are also capable of being resurrected through Dark Ether. That's an entirely separate thing from the throne world immortality, and it seems feasible that if they could find a body, they could rez him like any other Scorn. The main reason killing off the Barons worked out the first time was because it completely beheaded the Scorn's leadership, and as long as we kept putting down the few who apparently had other plans in place to come back (i.e. the Machinist, who seemed to have a dedicated team in place performing Ether rituals to try to bring her back, and the Fanatic, who I believe generates Dark Ether on his own since he was the first Scorn; leaving his body alone for long enough seems to have been enough to rez him), we could keep the leadership down and stop anyone from being able to put together a more solid plan to bring back the rest of the Barons. But now, the Scorn are getting smarter and have new leadership besides; the chopping off of the head of the leadership simply won't work. There's nothing stopping them from formulating a plan to recover and rez the other Barons now, and all of them are feasibly on the table again.

[@leecorrigan8394]

That'd certainly be a mindbending revelation 😃😃

[@bruhmazing2158]

We collapsed his throne world and killed him in it. If they ressurected him, the sword would tithe double from him what murdered him. They would have to bring equivalent death of 2 ‘traveler’s chosen’ god slayers to do it. And considering after killing Rhulk, you would need to approach sacrificing a candidate for the final shape just to return the mindbender from the deep.

[@hellman403]

Id happily clap more baron ass, qvenge my man cade

[@WhoisPersona]

*Rando Dying Guardian* “Wow, I was not expecting Rhulk to be such an intelligent raid boss. This is such a welcome breath of fresh air.” *Other dying Guardian* “HE’S STOMPING US WITH HIS GODLY THIGHS!”

[@patsonical]

*The Guardian who did the fight in contest mode:* PTSD intensifies

[@AmunetRa]

Remember the Scorn in the Shattered Realm Mission last season, the once who where engaged in "ritualistic combat" and Mara suspected they where "developing their own culture". Sounds a lot like Sword Logic in retrospec. I don't think those had worms already implanted, but rather "prepared" themselves by gaining power through the Sword Logic. ...Or at least emulating Hive behavior.

[@subbot8077]

The shattered suns book was absolutely insane. Love the depths Bungie is going to to flesh out Rhulk as a character

[@omulei1797]

I still need to go through it. I just read the raid Ghost Shell lore, mind blown 😳

[@Roaring2Thunder]

Wish the ghost read it tbh

[@joshuacalebroman478]

@@omulei1797 I think it might have been the Traveler speaking through the ghost. Rhulk referred to it as “adversary” when its voice changed. He didn’t realize, but he was asking to be blessed by the Light. He would be unstoppable with both light and darkness.

[@Kensen_Ackles]

Byf: "He's a joint curator, librarian, and security system all rolled into one--" Rhulk: "I'LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK!!!!1!"

[@everythingsalright1121]

"We also forgot to mention if hes got chronic back pain and doesnt like things touching his face so uhh he gets stunned easily but no refunds!"

[@12SlimJims]

Here's a theory. If the fanatic hasn't joined the Witness yet, there might be a chance for us to divide the scorn to our side. The fanatic has only ever acknowledge one being above him and that was Uldren Sov (his father). What if during a season, the Crow with his past memories finds Ficrul the Fanatic and persuades him to join us?

[@echoaquarius8722]

Perhaps Crow becomes a member of the so called "dark vanguard" as a liason to Fikrul's scorn, because in that scenario, the Vanguard would never accept the Scorn.

[@casartherandom3010]

Or perhaps that Uldren is the only one who can actually kill Fikrul permanently?

[@echoaquarius8722]

@@casartherandom3010 I think he could definitely be the one to do so, but I don't think he is the only one. Fikrul's reanimation isn't only fueled by dark ether, or all scorn could do it on their own. Rivens wish magic from uldrens inadvertent wish causes the dark ether to funnel back into fikrul and reanimate him. Theoretically all it would take to permanently kill Fikrul is to somehow funnel all of the dark ether out of his entire being, just like killing a guardian by stealing their light (including his staff, which is his conduit for it, like our ghost for the light).

[@KevlarCurt]

@the last this is right

[@chelsthegameruiner8669]

I don't see that happening. Last I checked, Fikrul was pissed that we killed his fellow barons-

[@Lose-Yourself-To-Dance]

One thing about Darkness that interests me for a long time already, is that how similar Darkness resonant powers look to Black Armory tech visual effects. If they are the same, implications are .. interesting, to say the least.

[@ohdimadima9395]

Armory is also Black which might be a clue

[@joshuavidrine889]

I think the pattern is just a universal signal resonance visual effect, nothing more to it really. Darkness holds a golden orange glow, Black Armory held a variety of colors like red and blue for their resonance effects. Though, BA was opposed to implementing Light due to the belief it was making Humanity weak for their dependence on the Traveler, and we know they had access to some level of Braytech since Clovis was the only one who could make Exos and Exos are made with Darkness-rendered Vex mindfluid, so it could be possible there is some Darkness in the Black Armory tech to some miniscule degree.

[@trevorhecht1478]

This could also be a coincidence but the Black Armory symbol looks similar to some of the structures in the pyramid. I blew it off as nothing but now that people have pointed out other similarities I'm starting to wonder

[@z--r0]

Niobe Labs, that also hold the Bergusia forge, were attacked by the darkness during the collapse and many witnessed some kind of metallic constantly morphing thing (Ada was mortally wounded by it). We can now presume that one of the disciples was behind the attack on EDZ area and speculate that the thing that breached the Labs was actually some kind of weaponised resonant shard.

[@Deserit]

@@joshuavidrine889 I might be misremembering but, well, isn't ADA-1 the only Exo the Black Armory made? And one that, for that matter, wasn't made using Alkahest since they couldn't get their hands on it?

[@beninmalgaard9836]

I honestly hope we get to fight Fikrul again. He's an intriguing villian and his possible involvement with the Witness could lead to some fun story telling.

[@wander-2]

If any other baron were to come back with Fikrul, I feel The Mindbender's understanding of Ascendant Realms could make things interesting.

[@veralium]

@@wander-2 We did kill the mindbender in his throne world though, so probably not

[@Magic_Milkshake]

@@veralium I wonder how the Scorn’s ability to be resurrected would interact with ascendancy

[@atreiu182]

Fikrul is back as badass as ever, sees Crow, bows to him, the Crow goes rogue on killing Saladin.

[@awesomeguy9513]

Maybe Fikrul has some ability to go against the witness grasp over the scorn

[@prowsy102]

I found this channel with the Dynasty video. The last month has been an amazing dive into the depths of Destiny lore. Thank you Byf for the excellent quality and community🙏

[@Dripularstein]

I totally recommend his 3hrs lore vid of the complete story of destiny.

[@prowsy102]

@@Dripularstein Great Rec, its excellent. I'm shocked at how much of the story I've missed over the years. All this lore makes me feel like I've been in a fugue state😅

[@bibydarling7115]

Every lore I know, I learned from byf he is amazing!

[@bismarkeugen6881]

I still just want the Caretaker's backpack, that would be a wild exotic weapon.

[@Dolphin_editz69]

True

[@duskbringer4583]

Oh GOD. Fikrul with the Worm, possibly even becoming able to form Ascendant Plane of his own... Just imagine that. And to make that worse, Fikrul is truly Undying. No matter how many time we put him down... He keeps rising after day or two.

[@iamrazor9831]

I like how the scorn, those annoyances from forsaken, are finally given a larger role to play in the game and in the lore

[@dudemunch87]

My question is: why does a weird, brambly metallic tree explode out of the Caretaker and Rhulk when you defeat them? Anything to do with the Tree of Silver Wings? Tie-ins to things found in the Black Garden which lead to the Witness and the Darkness?

[@noabsolutelynot3660]

Same kind of roots that jut out the backs of champions. Lore says they try to heal and empower people. Champions heal.

[@mightytyrion985]

@@noabsolutelynot3660 holy shit, I never realized this about Champs, always thought it was just their aesthetic. But this makes a lot of sense.

[@inoli3164]

this has blown my mind

[@Underpowered3719]

destiny lore sure do love gardening stuff...

[@DragonKnight90001]

Best have a look at the raid sparrow too that confirms it even more

[@nightshade1124]

Part of me wants a new race of creatures to come alongside the other factions of the "Army of Darkness" Imagine how weird it would be to see creatures that, rather than being adopted into the darkness, have been apart of the Darkness for a long time. Like a race that was just aimed at being an army and had done such inside the Darkness for Centuries. Fun food for thought.

[@MrJakeasaur98]

From what I understand, Rhulk has subjucated many other species. I'd love to see a new darkness faction that is made up of a bunch of different species - true forces of Darkness.

[@codylujan]

@@MrJakeasaur98 That's not how it works. True darkness doesn't have a form. Its an idea and a presence that attaches to other things and uses them. Like a parasite. What i'm trying to say is, its like saying "the pure form of the light." There is none. The light is immaterium.

[@MrJakeasaur98]

@@codylujan I perhaps mis-phrased what I intended. By "true forces of darkness", I meant a faction directly associated with the Witness (rather than an existing faction becoming aligned with the Witness, like the Scorn). Forces which wield paracausal abilities like we do.

[@phughett213ify]

That's basically the Hive though, indoctrinated millions of years ago and until very recently have been the embodiment of the Darkness and its pri are force.

[@jaipadv8282]

Seconding the post above me, that's literally just the hive .-. also seeing as the only actual forces if darkness we have are the Hive, Vex, Scorn, and Taken it's fair to say we actually do have a good diversity

[@cavalierqoon]

This ship reminds me of the bit in the Drifter's history with a ship full of organisms frozen in stasis with ridiculous darkness energy.

[@scivixthecreep]

The way I see it, as long as Fikrull hasn't consumed a worm, his loyalty is week and he can be wavered from the path of dark. Crow may not become the Hunter vanguard but I feel he could be a sort of Vanguard for the other Race's that follow the path of the light, being the "Father" to the light scorn, an advocate for the Light hive, and a defender of house light. But that's just my own thoughts, so who knows

[@smallgeorge]

that would be an amazing role for him to fit, I would love to see that happen in game

[@inoli3164]

but the scorn hate crow now. they call him betrayer

[@MrVidman14]

The witness seems to really like the scorn, perhaps thanks to calus, the witness sees the scorn as the perfect opportunity to help his goals of achieving his victory But what makes the scorn more special over the taken, is it the circumstances that lead to their creation, is it that they have a degree of free will in that they choose to worship the dark whereas the taken have no Will at all, is because they can be shaped far more than the Taken

[@defiantmars9910]

I would like to note that there do seem to be some aesthetic similarities between the Darkness Resonance and Black Armory’s Radiance/Resonance. They both seem to feature that wave-like pattern. It makes me wonder if the BA managed to produce a Light based analogue to the Pyramid technology. Though, far less developed of course. Perhaps Ada could become more important to the narrative later? (Please?)

[@bspoon2529]

well she was around during the collapse

[@maxdagesse127]

Ooh, that's actually a really good point.

[@joshuavidrine889]

The Black Armory was opposed to the Light as a tool for us. They believed that Humanity had become soft under the care of the Traveler, and so the founders decided to build weapons and technology to help protect Humanity from any outside threats whilst not being dependant on the big golf ball in the Sky. If anything, I assumed that BA tech implemented some elements of Braytech due to the founders putting Ada into an exobody, and knowing that only Clovis had the tech to make exos and that involves Darkness and Vex mindfluid hints at no Light involved. If anything, back when the Forges were around, I thought they had implemented some level of Vex technology due to the sounds they'd emit being vaguely akin to Vex noises in their echoey blooping and whining.

[@derekridings1715]

@@joshuavidrine889 I believe the thing that made Ada special though was that her exo body wasn't made using the same methods Clovis used

[@defiantmars9910]

@@joshuavidrine889 From what I read, my interpretation was that the Armory was not *opposed* to the Light, but didn't want to be complacent about it. Henrietta founded the Black Armoring fearing an oncoming storm and wanting to protect her family if I recall. Ada seems to be different from other Exos in that she's still on her -1 iteration and possesses other unique properties. I have seen theories that is due to Radiance technology.

[@erikm8373]

Byf was really running that double pulse rifle loadout towards the end of that video

[@hunterbenson9258]

Thank you for all the hard work you're doing and have been doing to give us the deeper story and lore we didn't want to go find on our own

[@naveensensei8220]

Bro you're the best. I love the quick content you put out. My coworker said to tell you your voice is "captivating"😂😂

[@echoaquarius8722]

1. Love the vid as always. 2. I think that given it's apparent intelligence, sheer power, and place in Rhulk's plans, I think the possibility of the Caretaker having a throne world is something that should be considered, and looked out for. 3. Birthplace of the Viles lore is likely greatly intertwined with the lore of the raid scorn, but I personally am not super familiar with it. Was on autopilot the one time I played it lmao.

[@omegaadept7458]

Honestly, i feel like many people are overlooking the experiments that the Mindbender was doing with Hive, scorn and worm compatibility may not be so crazy

[@LowIntSpecimen]

Personally, I think that Fikrul has gone on to become a disciple. Rhulk had to lose everything before the Witness recruited him as a disciple, just like Fikrul has. That in combination with the Scorn being under Rhulk/the Witness' command and him being namedropped during the campaign points to him having joined the Witness.

[@jdguevara93]

I love this series, it's really letting me live VotD vicariously through the lore

[@TJ-bg4fw]

Do you not enjoy raiding or simply just interested in the story of D2?

[@jdguevara93]

@@TJ-bg4fw a bit of both, I don’t have the time to commit to raids. So in the seven years I’ve played Destiny I’ve probably only done the leviathan pre-cross-save, and the lore has always been good too.

[@TJ-bg4fw]

@@jdguevara93 Fair enough, and thanks for satisfying my curiosity

[@randomman11167]

relistening to this after watching the new lightfall trailer drop makes me wonder if the Tormentors are Scorn Chieftains that have successfully fused with worms or maybe even Scorn Barons

[@jackolantern147]

A giant worm tank enemy would be an interesting addition to the Hives roster.

[@fryler5865]

I used to watch your videos when i had questions on lore, but recently I've started watching regularly. You bring such enthusiasm and i dig the theory crafting! Appreciate your hard work duder!

[@disasterleo8883]

I can imagine us talking over fikrul to join us using crow to order him as uldren, it would give an interesting plot were crow has to basically relieve his past self for the sake of the mission yet still in fear of becoming that person, possibly not but it would be an interesting story telling perspective

[@Energumenus]

I've been waiting for you to cover the glass encased scorn with worms, which I thought was one of the most interesting things in the raid. Guess we'll have to wait and see about Fikrul, but great video.

[@LegalEagle3223]

Stumbled onto your channel just before I started playing D2 (season of the hunt). Thank you for all the time and your dedication to this wonderful world of lore. The content now is soooo good!! Cheers and thank you for everything Byf!

[@Stimm002]

Thanks for your videos. I've played destiny none stop from the start of D1 all the way through to forsaken. Unfortunately since then I've been in hospital, yes all that time, as such I haven't been able to play since. I am now aloud my series x in hospital so could jump back in but I feel like I've missed so much. Also because they've pulled stuff out the game that I missed I don't know I want to invest so much time again in something that I've missed a huge amount of story and context. I am just undecided, I love the game and the lore and these videos have helped.

[@willjoyner3638]

Byf, I just wanted to say I've really been looking forward to these vids lately. Thank you and keep up the great work.

[@WebofHope]

I just want a cutscene of Mara blasting waves of Scorn into dust while looking at worst mildly disgruntled that they *just keep coming.*

[@williamcampbell6794]

everyday things look to be worse and worse for the fate of the last city... I love it

[@Sfirezx]

I haven't seen newest vid yet but unlike previous vid there is a whine in the background like feedback or a constant tone. Love your work! It stops a little after the resonant shard bit.

[@natewhite8024]

Has anyone noticed how in the legend of zelda there is a rule of 3, 3 times for a boss phase until the boss is defeated. destiny bosses are almost identical to that formula. Just a cool thing I noticed.

[@STORYTXLLXR]

That looks like roots. I think you’re theory on the concept of destiny’s endgame of light vs dark is symbolism. The tree animation shows a dark silhouette of a tree sprouting forth then it turns white. Mara’s explanation of what it is to be Awoken gives the same image along with the two bird story of her and uldren.For as far light reaches , darkness comes to meet it. Death(the darkness) is trying to bring root to create something , a capability that was given to the light. Death isn’t a rebirth, resurrection is a remnant, the light gives a second chance. Something the darkness never offers without a sacrifice being made.

[@lorcan0c]

11:35 Byf's barricade makes one of his teammates blow himself up with a rocket during DPS.

[@dj_mcfuggernugs507]

Caretaker be like: K N A W L E D G E

[@Czejenesku]

Im glad for those videos. Even since D1 i wasnt able to play any of the raids so its the only way i can learn the lore.

[@YoSoyAlva]

There's an odd high-pitched feedback noise in this video FYI

[@DraftyCoast]

Crow might be the only character in the whole destiny universe that could talk some sence to Fikrul , since you know , has uldren's memories

[@Ascendxnce]

Byf for some time now you've gotten some serious audio whine while you're talking. I'm not sure if you've gotta ground a wire or if your audio interface is messing up and you need to replace something, but it's increasingly becoming difficult to listen to your videos. It doesn't happen all of the time, but when it does, it takes away from your brilliant content. Please don't take this as anger or something malicious, I just wanted to bring it to your attention. Applaudable work as always.

[@giantslayer9335]

Getting the same here

[@JDxxxxxx]

Don’t hear it at all sounds fine for me

[@dg3912]

@@JDxxxxxx are you wearing headphones? I heard it right away

[@JDxxxxxx]

@@dg3912 no headphones

[@lt.presto]

Hey byf, loved the thumbnail. I see you took my advice and advice of others. Love the vids. Keep them going 👍👍👍

[@buffalobill4892]

Here's an interesting theory: What if this is the making of a new faction, that we will be introduced to when the Black Fleet descends upon us?

[@piranha_lol]

thank you for your service, byf

[@SeanCrosser]

Funny that Xita is "Shy-ta" but Xivu is "Zee-voo"

[@leandronakano8005]

Honestly congrats and thank you for being so dedicated to explaining destiny lore in so much depth

[@DerdOn0ner]

I‘m pretty sure the Caretaker is just what his name implies: a caretaker

[@epicelephant1258]

The behavior of the scorn last season is explained now.

[@chrisd.2948]

I honestly like the idea of the caretaker having something to do with memory simply because of the name itself. The care taker(the artist) if you didn’t know was all about exploring memory through music and so I think it is entirely possible that bungie was not ignorant of this when naming the boss.

[@shakes-nw1fe]

But you are insane. I normally check about once a week for vid and your pumping them out every day

[@abacate]

This gets me back to thinking about black holes, specifically how they are seen as repositories forever holding in all the "knowledge" they absorb from the universe.

[@abacate]

This could bring us from the bomb logic of the big bang to the reduction/winnowing of the big crunch.

[@owenrobinson5031]

Thank you Byf as always for the excellent content and thought provoking speculation! I’m waiting eagerly for more videos from you

[@Captain_Maeve]

You make a note about things labeled resonant within this context don't relate to the black armoury , but look at the waves of energy that are emitting from the caretaker and other darkness related things. They have the same intermittent pattern as the black armoury weapons and forges just a different colour. Perhaps there is more of a connection than it seems.

[@woebegone_kenobi]

Worm fed Abomination vs. Lightbearer Ogre would be a phenomenal cutscene

[@drpotato830]

I always wonder what happened if the Fanatic saw Uldren that he still alive, he always been loyal to him..what will happen with the Scorn horde.

[@kakkaohjus]

Next Raid, besides an un-Vaulted one, will have Taniks the Scorned with a Pyramid-tech scooter like the payloads in Bathworld as a boss.

[@TheFerrett3]

So much joy for these videos

[@sargentvanguard7612]

I love how in gameplay you gotta dunk one thing you got from shooting something into another to kill the tall ass dude with a deadly stick, and in lore he experimented on ancient God worms and destroyed his home planet and sun

[@Nothings_Shore]

Now this piece was finely done, I believe the turn of phrase used here is “ you hit the nail on the head “. This is the evolution reference back in wayfinder missions from Mara worried about “what are they becoming “. A line has already been drawn in this system. We saw the races that were said would join the dark armies in that pyramid with the stone statues. Also side note don’t forget we saw our funeral in the corridors of time. This may play into the story sometime soon with the alliance quest again. Remember a side must be chosen even if it’s the wrong one….we all have a part to play in this game….where do you stand?

[@TheDevilsFlex]

Ik my message will never be viewed..but “luster” I believe is a form of darkness like stasis… as we see the colors relating the darkness supers .. I feel like bungie is teasing something..

[@MarvinMegavolt]

This admittedly ONLY occurred to me when you brought up how the term "Resonance" in any context outside of the Black Armor, refers to Darkness-related shenanigans, but- Okay to preface actually - Black Armory never _did_ use the term "resonance" to my knowledge - _"radiance"_ was the word of choice for the stuff with the Obsidian Accelerator and the Scourge of the Past raid. HOWEVER - your bringing it up in this context made me realize that, _to a certain extent_, Black Armory tech, and more specifically, the curious shimmery "radiance" it features, bears a _vague_ resemblance to similar visuals on artifacts of the Black Fleet. I SERIOUSLY doubt there's any actual connection whatsoever there, but the tinfoil-hatter part of my brain does wonder if the similarity was intentional.

[@chirpynsleepy958]

... anyone notice how the Black Armoury textures are the same wave textures used for a lot of "resonant" things in and around the raid? And how the Black Armoury also uses the word "resonant" frequently? Could be nothing, just curious

[@justbob242]

Thank you, Sir Byf, Loremaster.

[@glennbruner7504]

Byf it is so awesome to see this amazing content! You’re the best!

[@bailzz180]

A lore video a day keeps the darkness away

[@chairs-dimension]

the heroic ether collection public event has a new scorn boss type with a stasis shield, not sure if it's been figured out what 'type' of scorn it is but it's definitely different to the others. might be connected to the experimental scorn found in the raid

[@motesquid]

Oof that high pitched whine in the background is very sad beans.

[@Dust-Gaming-Clips]

Loving the content rollout!!!!

[@underscore_5450]

Fun fact! If you go to the location at 9:40 and turn up your sound, you can hear screaming and cries for help coming from the imprisoned creatures. Pretty creepy.

[@underscore_5450]

There's also so deep sounds laughter that can be heard throughout the pyramid and some voices that sound like they're coming from an intercom or something. Plus the usual creepy listening.

[@TigerBears11]

Isn’t there a bit of lore about Drifter encountering some sort of darkness related being encased in ice? Could it be one of those things encased in glass/ice in the pyramid?

[@MrSpawley]

You mean the primevals That his fire team came across and he uses in Gambit.

[@Contekar]

@@MrSpawley they aren't the same thing. What he saw is a different race that hasn't been explained yet.

[@kagex5]

Cheers to breaking personal records Byf, hope to see you break many more in these excellent and informative video's!😀

[@azraelwolfsblood2902]

Lubrae’s Ruin should’ve been an exotic weapon instead of a legendary. It’s literally the raid bosses weapon

[@BaDNeWsPaNdA1]

You're amazing my man!! And THANK YOU! was driving myself nuts thinking where fikrul went 😆 no one I played with who knows lore cared lol

[@nicholasschoonbeck6866]

The ad before this video started was about the Bible, & the guy in the start began speaking about the serpent & I was like did Byf have some new person asking questions about the worms? lol

[@adultishgambino6831]

This was definitely the right thumbnail

[@actaylor84]

i thought the encased creatures in ice were infact the krill. in the preservation mission inside one of the buildings, rhulk talks about the krill and fundament and they are inside that room too. they also have a crustacean type look to them.

[@zofotoziggy]

When I first saw the Caretaker (on BarbaricHam's Twitch) my first thought was of the earth-like golems that were in grimoires about the Collapse

[@calebolds9609]

This scorn stuff reminded me: the Seasons system Destiny has now actually allows the big expansions to focus entirely on the Darkness Races (scorn, taken, maybe a new enemy eventually) without us getting too tired of them. We can still have Vex, Fallen, and Cabal stories in the intermediary. I think we'll get some sort of Season of the Disciples or something featuring setups for maybe Calus, Eramis, Fikrul, and possibly others such as Toland. (Hell, the last main expansion featuring the Vex was *Curse of Osiris,* and the last yearly expansion version of content for the vex was BASE DESTINY. Not counting the Shadowkeep raid)

[@MeowMita]

Fikrul 100% I think works for the Witness now. His philosophy about changing the Eliksni into the Scorn, talking about evolution has a lot of parallels to the Darkness philosophies like the sword logic / pure survival of the fittest

[@LucienYT]

Byf: "I don't understand how an Eliksni could have ended up in the Throne World" Me: "...no one say the name Taniks... don't even BREATHE that name... Never again..."

[@allentayoto7387]

I do hope that in Lightfall we will get to see who will be the major enemies are. Also, I actually want to see Fikrul appear as a successful result of this experiment. I like scorns the most among all the enemy factions because they have a lot of potential. Like, the Taken are cool but I like how the Scorn feels closer to what the guardians are. An undying army, especially Fikrul.

[@MetalDEmpire]

Thank you for reading my mind with Immaru

[@Captain_Yata]

The Dark Army consists of Xivu Arath's Hive, most if not all of the Scorn, maybe the remnants of House Salvation, Calus' Cabal and the Veil or whatever they end up being called. The Light Army has Humanity (Exos and Awoken included, obviously), hopefully the other Houses of Eliksni and House Light, Caiatl's Cabal, and POTENTIALLY, we could form an alliance with Savathun, temporarily of course. I think bringing her back to team up with her would be a brilliant bit of story, and it wouldn't be out of character to join us in order to protect the Traveller which is all she really wants. The Vex will probably stay neutral with the exception of the Sol Divisive. I can't wait to see where all of this goes.

[@jeremyrm7]

It’s also obviously worth stating that during the opening encounter the abomination you kill are deemed “knowledge bearers” so the caretaker could be involved with that or them.

[@hatol614]

It would be pretty cool if the next expansion showcases a destroyed traveler (a different one from the one in the last city) as a raid destination.

[@MonstertruckBadass]

Just no.

[@hatol614]

@@MonstertruckBadass not our traveler. But a traveler. There has to be more than one.

[@MonstertruckBadass]

@@hatol614 I mean yeah but don't put all the cool and important stuff in raids

[@willemkollen2183]

Babe wake up new Byf vid dropped

[@Blackout-ff6ck]

12:50, I fee like you aren't considering uldren enough. Fikrul would do anything for uldren, and crow remembers everything he does. He may truly be able to reconnect with him.

[@christianyaerger1751]

Trying to think about this from an alchemic stand point. The Darkness is all about Winnowing, breaking something down to its truest essence. Distillation, purification. This is what the Taken are: distilling an individual to its most fundamental nature. With the Scorn and Worms, the Witness is synthesizing, bringing two unlike things together and getting something more. Creatures that resurrect bonded to creatures with paracausal power. Is it trying to breed a warrior class to counter the Guardians?

[@pirate_duck4985]

Fikrul has gotta become a Disciple surely!? Would make sense as to why we see Fanatics Chosen Scorn & why they're so aggressively trying to take the pyramid ship!

[@Jackb113]

Headbanging to your outtro music!

[@Jackb113]

That snare has a BIG beat going on

[@Paloc]

Late to the party on this video but... When you mentioned that other than Black Armory all references to "resonance" were of the darkness. I would actually say there a strong possibility the Black Armory ones are too. We know that Clovis Bray was messing with Darkness and had some influence on the Black Armory staff, including giving exo-tech which lead to Ada. Plus this season has a re-coloured black armory transmat effect which is VERY similar to some of the particle effects that come off of The Caretaker. Some of the particle effects in the 2 transmat effects also look similar to dark ether effects. There's a good chance Black Armoury resonance is the same resonance too.

[@elsupermano4646]

In regards to the worms being fed to the scorn. The “worm being fed fed to the scorn” is an assumption, it is just as likely that it is in the process of rejecting the host, which makes it more likely the reason they were put in stasis. Especially if you can see the head of the worm, implying outward transit as opposed to inward.

[@dredgen0268]

Damn the lore for this raid is DOOOOPE

[@RoadsOfShadow]

So, question. Are we sure the Black Armory doesn't have anything to do with the Pyramids? There origins are a little obscure, theirs holes in our records of their early days. I'm less confident by the day they weren't always Dark implements, which wouldn't be that worrisome if Ada wasn't feeling at loose ends. She feels like the weak point in the Tower, if the Witness wants to subvert someone.