Destiny 2 Lore - The Witness offered to bring back Amanda Holliday for Crow.

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My name is Byf

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@aeloswindrunner
@aeloswindrunner 3 ай бұрын
That small voice crack when Crow called Amanda a sunrise is such incredible voice work. Gets me every time and it's such a subtle thing
@NXDH927
@NXDH927 3 ай бұрын
"She was a sunrise." Always hurts me so much.....I just feel his words. It's what makes him such a good character........
@SealFormulaMaster
@SealFormulaMaster 3 ай бұрын
Know what's truly scary? There was one Guardian who could've been tempted, had the Witness offered something more. Our Guardian. If the Witness had just offered us god roll guns and armor with two 30 spikes, I'm quite sure he would've won. Instead, he offered us gold. Like, come dude, Calus already tried that and look at where he ended up!
@netherlordgaming995
@netherlordgaming995 3 ай бұрын
Dude literally knows what we want (yes it's loot and guns) but tried to go the calus route plus offering God hood Like are you dumb witness we have ALL OF THAT ALREADY
@storyseeker6028
@storyseeker6028 3 ай бұрын
Speak for yourself man, I wanted to beat that fog dispenser so I could get to a villain I had more investment in seeing in action, aka the Winnower. The Witness is a being who deserves no thought after all. Their death was blessed.
@Fenyxclips
@Fenyxclips 3 ай бұрын
The Witness tempted me... Into wanting to see it dead.
@zeke3672
@zeke3672 3 ай бұрын
Also offered us the chance to become a disciple. As if we couldn't already wield darkness or something. "I killed a bunch of people you care about and now I'm scared you're gonna kick my ass. Come help me out while I kill a bunch more in exchange for literally nothing!"
@ross6789
@ross6789 3 ай бұрын
Is the Witness had shaped a warlock robe that mimicked its own constantly flexing/shifting robe. I may have folded ngl
@aidanfedorochko3728
@aidanfedorochko3728 3 ай бұрын
Crow honestly has become such a rather fascinating character arc and I am curious what role he will play with Fikrul storyline going forward.
@Wolverine1992-z5m
@Wolverine1992-z5m 3 ай бұрын
well crow is new vangaurd hunter an he will see what is happen fikrul an his army
@acgearsandarms1343
@acgearsandarms1343 3 ай бұрын
He has Uldren’s memories while still being his own man. I’m sure it’s going to be interesting. Fikrul I think has his own two cents and will be rather upset as well. His father becoming a Guardian.
@3ndlessL00p
@3ndlessL00p 3 ай бұрын
Chad Crow stayed strong for the sake of the universe. An inspiration to all.
@Dynasty1818
@Dynasty1818 3 ай бұрын
Then went full douchebag haircut.
@pyroslev
@pyroslev 3 ай бұрын
Until he cried over Holliday in this campfire, I had not accepted him. By the end of the campaign, he really is someone I can fight for.
@33Isaiah96
@33Isaiah96 3 ай бұрын
No wonder why crow decided to bust out the iron axe against the witness
@ReaverPrime
@ReaverPrime 3 ай бұрын
With Zavala being lightless now, she definitely needs to be brought back by one of Micah 10's unpartnered ghosts.
@StupidCatLady
@StupidCatLady 3 ай бұрын
That would feel unnecessarily cruel to her though. Having to watch him die on turn? That seems unfair
@kaycee1076
@kaycee1076 3 ай бұрын
​@@StupidCatLady Also the fact that in part of that he wouldn't be Zavala anymore, he would lose all his memories, of the Vanguard, the Guardian, The City, Safiyah, Hakim..... Zavala wouldn't want to lose that. Zavala is one of the oldest Guardians, maybe it's time he finally rests?
@levicarpenter5509
@levicarpenter5509 3 ай бұрын
​@@kaycee1076he wouldn't lose his memories just because Amanda was brought back
@kevinheiden
@kevinheiden 3 ай бұрын
@@kaycee1076 read it again
@everythingsalright1121
@everythingsalright1121 2 ай бұрын
Its hinted at throughout defiance that a lot of the characters wish they were guardians especially mithrax, devrim and amanda because then they could do more to protect people.
@jacobrempfer1589
@jacobrempfer1589 3 ай бұрын
I still hold out a hope that Amanda will return as a Guardian, specifically a Titan. If it can happen for Crow it can happen for her. With Zavala’s light now gone and his eventual need to retire, we might have ourselves the perfect new candidate for Titan Vanguard. It seems that eventually we’ll have completely new guardian leaders.
@everythingsalright1121
@everythingsalright1121 2 ай бұрын
We might. Its implied in season of defiance that amanda wished she had more than one life to give.
@Meowow55iscat
@Meowow55iscat 3 ай бұрын
Man the Witness has a great loyalty program
@MICROKNIGHT3000
@MICROKNIGHT3000 3 ай бұрын
I prefer to go with the witness protection program
@andrewwales8827
@andrewwales8827 3 ай бұрын
The way I would have folded immediately if I were Crow
@TWOFACETORCH
@TWOFACETORCH 3 ай бұрын
"She was a sunrise." makes me cry every, single time.
@patrickgutmann6563
@patrickgutmann6563 3 ай бұрын
If i lived in the destiny universe i would make it my sole mission to gather every single free ghost and drag them infront of the pile of ash that is Amanda. Id do anything to see her and crow reunited, they work so well together
@Irvine1992
@Irvine1992 3 ай бұрын
These dives into the temptations really highlight how absolutely pivotal Season of the Haunted was. Had Crow and Zavala not resolved their demons back then, we easily would have lost one or both of them at this point.
@Potato-adept
@Potato-adept 3 ай бұрын
13:15 What a magnificent work of voice acting.
@gideonscott-miller8514
@gideonscott-miller8514 3 ай бұрын
I didn’t know the flavor text on a piece of armor in a video game would make me emotional.
@jameskarg3240
@jameskarg3240 3 ай бұрын
"Would you not stay...abd see your Sunrise~?" *hissing breath* Uuuuugh, That line felt disgusting. Brilliantly delivered, byf. But wooooow...that was scummy even for a god
@tommydixon4871
@tommydixon4871 12 күн бұрын
the line she was sunrise is very powerful and emotional crow is very strong to said no to the witness about the idea to make amanda came back to life
@fracture4047
@fracture4047 3 ай бұрын
I lost my Mom in November. The line when Mara and Crow talk about his grief over Amanda, "She was a sunrise" still breaks me. That whole conversation feels much more meaningful now that I have been dealing with that raw, violent grief that they speak of. I've always loved the story that Destiny provides, I just didn't expect to surprise me again after hearing old dialogue. It also made The Final Shape hit much harder for me than I thought it would. I know its probably my own emotions mixed with Destiny nostalgia which let me really connect with it but I thought that the story was very well done. Especially Zavala. I understand why he has such a hard time letting go. I'm just glad they went this direction in the Final Shape as a whole
@edragyz8596
@edragyz8596 3 ай бұрын
When I was replaying Lightfall I had a thought. What are the odds Calus thought the Witness was the Winnower? Calus seems to be a Winnower fanboy now that I look back, which would explain his frustrations with the Witness in Lightfall.
@jackolantern147
@jackolantern147 3 ай бұрын
I wonder. Where is the Black Fleet? As far as I know, the Essence was broken by the Traveler, and at least 5 or 6 were pulled into the Traveler alongside the Witness. Then there was one that Mara Sov destroyed. So, there should be several Pyramids unaccounted for. Where are they?
@XionWillow
@XionWillow 3 ай бұрын
Maybe worked into the pyramidal architecture throughout the heart?
@tiudesvx5400
@tiudesvx5400 3 ай бұрын
Easy on the cutting room floor.
@AstrumKitten091
@AstrumKitten091 3 ай бұрын
Europa and the Moon for example.
@MrVidman14
@MrVidman14 3 ай бұрын
@@XionWillowbut did all the ships go into the portal, in onslaught the pyramids are in the background unless Onslaught wasn’t canon
@XionWillow
@XionWillow 3 ай бұрын
@@MrVidman14 Ah, I misread the first comment I was replying to, my bad. I would assume we have several pyramids unaccounted for that will show up in later episodes, in addition to the three we already know are grounded. Might be neat to go explore an Onslaught ship after it crashes and maybe starts affecting the surrounding area with unchecked Darkness
@dnegotiator9096
@dnegotiator9096 3 ай бұрын
LETS GO WE EARLT TO THE BYF VID
@Phoenix13Fury
@Phoenix13Fury 3 ай бұрын
Byf, my friend, you've been throwing out banger after banger. I appreciate you. Thank you for your imagination, as mine runs wild over the lore as well.
@garrettking144
@garrettking144 3 ай бұрын
I just wanted to address something I see pretty often and I’d hope you would cover, people often say that oryx communes with the winnower, however that isn’t the case, it’s made very clear with the final shape it was the witness, the hive wizard called the witness the deep, at the area you start dual destiny an intractable with a conversation between the witness and savathun where they discuss how the witness sent oryx here, in the grimore card king of shapes Auryx states this Now I may speak to the Deep, the beautiful final shape. I will be King of Shapes. I will learn all the secrets of our destiny, looking back this is very obviously the witness
@UrPalVanes
@UrPalVanes 3 ай бұрын
New byf vid just when my shift was getting boring 😮
@jjwebster1
@jjwebster1 3 ай бұрын
We've seen the Final Shaoe, a Universe frozen, cut out of time, no movement, no hope, no fear. A universe frozen at a point where all time ceases and all times in one spot. Anyone who has seen this would say no to the Witness. It's not a promise of perfection but a promise of Eternality.
@ItzSpecter
@ItzSpecter 3 ай бұрын
My headcannon is that now that the Witness has been dealt with, a ghost will find Amanda's ashes, and she would then be resurrected as a guardian.
@tapewormrage
@tapewormrage 3 ай бұрын
The Witness offered us a lot too. Its biggest mistake was not offering us a cool gun.
@dembro27
@dembro27 3 ай бұрын
Part of me is surprised that no one fell to temptation. While each character had immediate and compelling reasons for rejecting the Witness, I wonder how much Cayde’s return bolstered their resistance even further. Cayde confirmed an afterlife for Guardians. It might not be an active one, but it’s a peaceful, blissful state that he could remember when he was brought back. Imagine if that didn’t exist. We would’ve faced the prospect of finality, a calcified universe, and that’s terrifying. But then the Witness would come, promising that we would be frozen in time, yeah, but we’d be frozen at the happiest moment in our lives. If we thought death was the end, that there’s nothing after it, then that would be the same outcome as the final shape. But only if death is the end. In other words, imagine a god comes along and tells you that you’re going to die, but it can decide when you’ll die and make it so that you’ll die happy and with all your wishes fulfilled. That’s appealing… unless you know that death is not the end, that there’s something good after it, and that what this god is offering would actually destroy what comes after death. Then you are more likely to reject it, because you can only experience that afterlife if you deny that god. Likewise, if you knew that the afterlife was unending torment, you’d be more likely to take the deal. Fighting to defend complexity and the possibilities of life and entropy is cool and all, but unless you’re completely selfless in the service of an esoteric concept, you probably want to be happy and avoid suffering. Again, the characters had plenty of other, simpler reasons to deny the Witness. But if I were one of them, it’d be nice to know that even after my final death, there’s something good and that’s worth fighting for.
@danieldelanoche2015
@danieldelanoche2015 2 ай бұрын
The witness was really offering the infinite tsukuyomi.
@bladester0128
@bladester0128 3 ай бұрын
The Witness offered hollow promises just so it could achieve its goal. The Witness is a manager
@trevelyandovah8479
@trevelyandovah8479 2 ай бұрын
10:35 *Sealed Vessel starts playing*
@Idontgiveaduck
@Idontgiveaduck 3 ай бұрын
I think I would be so crushed if Amanda is resurrected because it would legit break my boy. Crow has come a long way, grown a lot. Seeing Amanda with no memory of him would be so hard. So effing hard. I am not sure he would be able to cope with that loss. She won't be the same, it wont be his sunrise. 😭 i can't handle that particularly since bungie won't let me hug him. LET US HUG CROW DAMN IT. I would have joined the witness to hug my boy, ngl.
@JurassiCarnivoR
@JurassiCarnivoR 3 ай бұрын
Excellent as always, and normally I love the way you try to speak in the same tone and cadance as the character speaking when reading lore, but this time your witness voice.. good as it was.. can't compete with Brett Dalton! :)
@heliozaiya
@heliozaiya 2 ай бұрын
If The Witness offered me more time to get my old seals completed, I would’ve flipped in a heartbeat
@DracoFettX23
@DracoFettX23 3 ай бұрын
I think they need to do a set of 3 weekly missions and each week it will move up one, so like 1-2-3 and those are the first missions of say the red war. Then after a week, it shifts to 2-3-4, then next week 3-4-5. That way ppl can experience all the history, do it via the sundial, and have it go thru curse of Osiris, then warmind, then the seasons when that first got introduced. Come on Bungie…
@brendenrufh1818
@brendenrufh1818 3 ай бұрын
So am i the only one not able to skip ads anymore? And when the skip button does show up its at the end and then it does nothing. So i have to close the video then reclick it to continue watching
@juliane.mfarias9285
@juliane.mfarias9285 3 ай бұрын
The more i learn the happier i am the Witness is no longer
@Ins0mn3sia
@Ins0mn3sia 3 ай бұрын
It's stuff like this that makes me wonder, what if it had been The Drifter, Eris, Caiatl. What would it offer them? What would their response be?
@mynameispi883
@mynameispi883 3 ай бұрын
I'm not crying, your crying
@fangslore9988
@fangslore9988 3 ай бұрын
Crow really loved Amanda very much and still does and he's still getting over her death, the witness was deplorable for trying to exploit that
@bionuvanui3142
@bionuvanui3142 2 ай бұрын
Do you find it strange that the warlock helm for the armor looks like a tengu?
@marioallstarrr
@marioallstarrr 3 ай бұрын
If the witness offered me all the raid and dungeon exotics that NEVER drop for me…i may have folded 😅
@exedoomed1548
@exedoomed1548 3 ай бұрын
I would have accepted that deal, seems fair enough
@farenheitplus
@farenheitplus 3 ай бұрын
I see the Witness offering Crow to bring back Amanda Holliday as doomed to failure. Crow might have been tempted momentarily, but he knew Amanda, the *real* Amanda, would never have forgiven him. Yes, the resurrected Amanda might have been twisted in some way to be everything he wanted, but he's grown so much as a character that it was still a doomed attempt.
@jamesab722
@jamesab722 3 ай бұрын
Were I, myself, really the Guardian, I think I would have gotten very snarky with the Witness. I'd likely have said something to the effect of, "Really dude? You can look into people's memories enough to dangle their wants and wishes like a carrot on a stick, but you can't see or comprehend why your perspective and vision of the Final Shape is repulsive to those people?"
@GoldenMagi
@GoldenMagi 3 ай бұрын
Anyone have any butter? I forgot my popcorn
@reminiscentecho2442
@reminiscentecho2442 3 ай бұрын
@@GoldenMagi I brought ny popcorn but forgot my butter
@grzegorzflorek5623
@grzegorzflorek5623 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if Crow will ever hook up with Druis, that female awoken warlock he saved once, back when he was on a Spider's leash.
@hatsu_23
@hatsu_23 3 ай бұрын
I still find it crazy that no one completely switched sides and joined the witness
@jjwebster1
@jjwebster1 3 ай бұрын
I always had the impression that where Ikora believes the Traveller helps us by giving us the powers and tools to face and overcome adversity, Zavala believes the Traveller will fight for us to overvome adversity. What we have seen is Ikora has it right. She knows, fully, the fight is ours while Zavala lost his Ghost based on a faulty understanding and belief in the Traveller.
@magnuszinner8291
@magnuszinner8291 3 ай бұрын
Meanwhile the witness couldn't offer us shite
@mickelmaldonado5910
@mickelmaldonado5910 3 ай бұрын
So, basically, Iboring is so lackluster that the writers just gave up on giving her anything. The Witness took one look, turned around, broke the fourth wall, dead stared the whole of Bungo and stated, "Nani the f@$%?"
@MW2proification
@MW2proification 3 ай бұрын
You should do this weeks missions and get the lore, there is some interesting theory material!
@reapingmonkey2526
@reapingmonkey2526 3 ай бұрын
If the darkness is memory and if one of the videos about the light making itself forget, then couldn't there be the theory that the winnower uses darkness to make the traveller remember the game?
@Byronze
@Byronze 3 ай бұрын
Any fucking day of the week, lets do it.
@ebony8416
@ebony8416 3 ай бұрын
man i missed a ton of cutseans to the tide of error codes
@phoenixkid5688
@phoenixkid5688 3 ай бұрын
Got a weird theory: With us restoring ghosts in the pale heart with Micha-10, I have a feeling one will hear of Amanda Holiday and how brave she was, and will find a way ti get tk her body and resurrect her into a Guardian, as a Hunter mo doubt she's clearly the most hunter of hunters
@BuzzMatt
@BuzzMatt 3 ай бұрын
Crows lore is fire. I wished Bungie had dropped more lore. It seems like we are getting less each season/episode
@bahamut1436
@bahamut1436 3 ай бұрын
Love the videos! Lore papi
@evi1fnyt
@evi1fnyt 3 ай бұрын
Question and somewhat spoilers: . After we've defeated the witness, why haven't the planets returned?
@everythingsalright1121
@everythingsalright1121 2 ай бұрын
One thing i dont get is why the witness would offer us anything when it intends to end the universe in a short while anyways. You'd get to enjoy your prize for all of 5 minutes
@feralprocessor9853
@feralprocessor9853 3 ай бұрын
If theres anyone you want to hug in destiny, who would it be? Me: I want to disguise myself as Oryx and try and hug(strangle) Xivu Arath. Aiat Love is war. Aiat
@FlynnCaydeSolo
@FlynnCaydeSolo 3 ай бұрын
I find the memory of Uldren and Mara interesting. Byf, is that considered retcon? It always seemed like Mara never outwardly showed she cared about Uldren like that prior to her “death” in the Taken King. Or perhaps we viewed Mara’s like that through uldrens colored perspective of her?
@Landis963
@Landis963 3 ай бұрын
I believe it is a quote from the _Marasenna,_ or from _The Forsaken Prince._ Mara's part in it is expanded, though.
@FlynnCaydeSolo
@FlynnCaydeSolo 3 ай бұрын
@@Landis963 that’s what I had thought too…
@Chrome262
@Chrome262 3 ай бұрын
cloak looks like a shower curtain, almost glad I haven't done the raid hahah
@vulkanviking
@vulkanviking 3 ай бұрын
3:18 Shaxx did NOT like that comment
@hend0wski
@hend0wski 3 ай бұрын
Bruh this fucks me UP
@feralprocessor9853
@feralprocessor9853 3 ай бұрын
Right off the bat, camping with the Vanguard.
@Dynasty1818
@Dynasty1818 3 ай бұрын
Anyone else sometimes see major character deaths as more of a "we needed to let this actor go" rather than an important, pivotal moment in the narrative? I didn't see Amanda's death as a necessity, I saw it more as a "she's not in the game much so it saves Bungie some money by letting Courtenay Taylor go."
@V-vision
@V-vision 3 ай бұрын
I agree her death fell flat, but I don't think that many relevant characters have died, certainly not enough to say it's a trend just to save money. Besides,I don't think there's money to be saved from what you've described. If Holiday's VA wasn't needed for new lines, I don't think she was costing them much
@kutlumzrak2689
@kutlumzrak2689 3 ай бұрын
She's Caiatl BTW.
@inferno769
@inferno769 3 ай бұрын
Crow is the main character, and we're just the muscle
@KALtheLostie108
@KALtheLostie108 3 ай бұрын
Agreed. This is isn't really our Guardian's story. I think Crow, Zavala, and Ikora would be the main characters, along with whoever is being focused on in the Episodes/Seasons
@Cyb3rh4k3r
@Cyb3rh4k3r 3 ай бұрын
When the Witness tries to tempt us with gold, is there any importance to the fact that all of the gold have icons of the Nine? or am I looking too closely at this?
@Landis963
@Landis963 3 ай бұрын
I think it was just cribbing from our memories of Xur's treasure hoard. Starhorse is there too, front and center of that tableau.
@vgernyc
@vgernyc 3 ай бұрын
Like Hakim, The Witness is responsible for Amanda’s death
@drquanzyz8490
@drquanzyz8490 3 ай бұрын
ohhh yeah early. byf we love you good sir
@feralprocessor9853
@feralprocessor9853 3 ай бұрын
Space.
@MidnightProCo101z
@MidnightProCo101z 2 ай бұрын
I don’t like that the community is acting like the witness would have actually given you the literally thing you wanted without putting some twisted genie-like spin on it. Not to say that Crow didn’t resist temptation by resisting the proposal of Amanda being returned but also, give him some credit??? Lol. Idk it’s just weird that people believe the witness was gonna be true to their word.
@Gruzbee
@Gruzbee 3 ай бұрын
Forget Crow. The Witness needs to bring back Amanda Holliday for ME! Also, I feel like the Crow x Amanda pairing was way too forced. It was never going to be thing.
@Light_Buster
@Light_Buster 3 ай бұрын
And of course, the Witness then desperately tried to tempt us to its side. But, surprise surprise, it didn't work.
@rigsabe4662
@rigsabe4662 3 ай бұрын
If the witness offered me an og pre Nerf Divinity 30% debuff to carry my friends in raids I would have been their best disciple (⁠๑⁠•⁠﹏⁠•⁠)
@smackothy
@smackothy 3 ай бұрын
Did Cayde get tempted by the Witness at all?
@DageD214
@DageD214 3 ай бұрын
The witness gambles with his garbage trying to persuade everyone, but yet still, he pursued to act the final shape. What good will that do us if he bring her back he brings about the final shape what good is it.. his foolish that is why it’s foolishness has brought his finality of ending.
@BOMBstylePRO
@BOMBstylePRO 3 ай бұрын
To be fair since in the first cutscene we saw what was the final shape, so I don't understand how the Witness can offer bringing people back if at the end everything its gonna be a statue...
@crazytalk8120
@crazytalk8120 3 ай бұрын
It's an appeal to emotion. Loss, sorrow, greed, the need for power. A ruse. Take the deal, get bamboozled. Like Landon and Vader. It would offer the bargain, and then likely alter the deal and end you anyway
@KALtheLostie108
@KALtheLostie108 3 ай бұрын
Maybe the Witness promised to bring her back and then freeze them in their reunion hug before she realizes what's really going on. So, when the Witness is ready to finalize everything, it resurrects Amanda in front of Crow, and then, while she's just confused and before she realizes what's wrong, Crow pulls her into a hug (which she would probably give back because she doesn't know what just happened). Then, the Final Shape occurs, freezing Crow in a moment of reuniting with the woman he loved.
@shrimppaste1692
@shrimppaste1692 3 ай бұрын
Crow got Peta though. 😅
@reamoinmcdonachadh9519
@reamoinmcdonachadh9519 3 ай бұрын
The Witness lied so much to achieve it's ends, it could not tell when/where it was lying to itself, because it was. I wonder, now that it is sundered, what has happened to all those voices, those personalities, willing and unwilling that had been formerly 'conducted' into a single chorus? Will we learn something more of the Precursor People?
@spinachkale9392
@spinachkale9392 3 ай бұрын
Nice good vid 👍
@Mangacide
@Mangacide 3 ай бұрын
It's kind of sad how underwritten and neglected one of their most prominent female characters is. They've got so much time and energy for Zvala and Crow. But Ikora? She seems to get put on the back burner a lot.
@harrisparrish9336
@harrisparrish9336 3 ай бұрын
Haha, they all chose doody
@Echo_Times_Three
@Echo_Times_Three 3 ай бұрын
Ayeeee!!! First time here so early!!! 3 minutes!
@StockRL
@StockRL 3 ай бұрын
W content
@Plixinity
@Plixinity 3 ай бұрын
Yippie
@chargedbowl
@chargedbowl 3 ай бұрын
I honestly stopped caring about Amanda because of how bad her death was. It was so bad and not needed. The worse bungie decision by far.
@StrengthOfSamson45
@StrengthOfSamson45 3 ай бұрын
Wth why didn't we take that deal?! We don't want that goofy ah crow
@aminamirkhani6377
@aminamirkhani6377 3 ай бұрын
So Witness basically offered her a comp carry. Not gonna lie this is just lazy writing there isn't much more to offer her because her character has no depth. At least Zavala had a family he lost and Cayde had charisma and a cool personality but Ikora has nothing going on rn.
@melkermagnusson5070
@melkermagnusson5070 3 ай бұрын
Wow this made Ikora look very Boring to me.
@JabroneyDirt
@JabroneyDirt 3 ай бұрын
Shit you think cayde was snarky, can you imagine Amanda if she found out how she was brought back if he did that.. Thats a Ahamkara/monkey paw wish straight up.
@agamernamedjoe
@agamernamedjoe 3 ай бұрын
Eyyy I’m early
@cry1pticzer773
@cry1pticzer773 3 ай бұрын
And now you can see exactly why most people would accept The Witness
@maxniemi4584
@maxniemi4584 3 ай бұрын
Would have been really fun if people had a choice and the raid was just a matchmade activity with the people aligned with the witness vs the people aligned with the vanguard
@lonecalzone6901
@lonecalzone6901 3 ай бұрын
@@maxniemi4584gambit if it was awesome
@HUMADUCK
@HUMADUCK 3 ай бұрын
@@maxniemi4584 I sorta think this concept was played with in dual destiny
@Shay_D_Mann
@Shay_D_Mann 3 ай бұрын
If The Witness can actually grant all these desires, then why can't it grant itself its own victory? The Witness can only tempt but in reality, it can't do shit.
@Fenyxclips
@Fenyxclips 3 ай бұрын
@@Shay_D_Mann Needed the light in order to do so.
@AymenDZA
@AymenDZA 3 ай бұрын
Crow and Mara's voice actors are beyond talented, the way they convey emotions through their voices is impeccable !
@crestothegecko6279
@crestothegecko6279 3 ай бұрын
the majority of voice actors in destiny are really good. The only one i can think of that's a bit subpar our ghost's. And that's really on during the more dramatic moments. The rest of the time they're quite good
@bionuvanui3142
@bionuvanui3142 3 ай бұрын
Each piece of the armor tells a merged flavor text. Promised Reunion (Titan / Zavala) "I... was with them again. An embrace so long, I held them with all the strength I had left. I saw my wife, my son... we were whole again. All the pain, all the guilt, welled up at once and then was gone. Together we would find peace." Promised Reign (Hunter / Crow) "I stand beside an empty throne. Nothing stands in my way; it is mine. In the distance, a hammer clangs; my heart burns. The fire laps at my feet. I turn, and there she is. Radiant." Promised Vitctory (Warlock / Ikora) "My greatest fear.. is re-living one, specific moment. Shaxx is there. Gun in my hand, hot to the touch. My heart is pounding. Every inch of my being vibrating with adrenaline. I'm tired, but I can't give in... Time is called; we win. I win. One more round, just one more round."
@ShaoShaoMienshao
@ShaoShaoMienshao 2 ай бұрын
This provides so much context and needs to be upvoted more
@Fatikis42
@Fatikis42 3 ай бұрын
Ok, I figured something out Byf that most won't believe but maybe you'll see the connection. The Ascendant plane is literally the memory of the universe inside of The Veil. Throne worlds are pocket cysts. Will and memory manifest throughout the darkness. An echo of themselves preserved. This is why areas people think about are stronger in the Ascendant realm. Area compressed. That is why troop movement is so effective between. You can walk Vast distances between the stars in a moment because those areas are not remembered. Or they are a shallow memory. Compressed.
@radarhead82
@radarhead82 3 ай бұрын
OH THATS BRILLIANT
@everythingsalright1121
@everythingsalright1121 2 ай бұрын
Yoooo whaaat
@Fatikis42
@Fatikis42 2 ай бұрын
@@everythingsalright1121 it also explains how we transverse via Egregore which appears to be directly related to The Veil. It is a clear mechanism that we are using a fungus to traverse locations that are otherwise impossible. It is a mycelial network. That is confirmed by Callus. That is exactly how The Veil is described. You are temporarily entering the Akashic record of the universe inside of The Veil or a smaller version inside of Egregore. Throne worlds or pocket cysts make sense with this as you are essentially forcing a perfect isolated domain for your memory after death. We know this to be inside of The Ascendant Plane. All other dead things go to The Veil other than Ghosts and Guardians. Why wouldn't they? They established a domain of self outside of the whole of the record. A kingdom inside of the memory of the universe.
@Fatikis42
@Fatikis42 2 ай бұрын
@@everythingsalright1121 And don't even get me started on how Hive Magic taps into The Veil using ritual sacrifice and symbology. As studied by Osiris the Veil ebbs and flows. Music interfaces with it. Representations of emotion to tap into darkness. Death is needed here to actually access The Veil. Just like Egragore it powers via death its access to the Veil.
@Billmaster115
@Billmaster115 3 ай бұрын
I do find it strange that, for people who live for centuries, are still on the market but no one is shopping. Like, okay, we had Zavala and Safiyah, and we have more, but we have not really explored much of the emotional stories of Guardians, at least, not in a way that actually grew into something new. Amanda and Crow were definitely something, not officially, but it was something I think. For all the great things about Destiny and its mysteries unravelled since 2014...it lacked that aspect of humanity and, ironically, something essential to all life - connection. Destiny is a tapestry, like 40k or Star Wars, just waiting to open its many many doors to explore all genres. Gangs below the Last City. Cosmic horror in Darkness corrupted Star Systems. Tragedy, Comedy, parody, all that good stuff.
@seraphdesFruehlings
@seraphdesFruehlings 3 ай бұрын
May I ask what you mean? What Connections are missing?
@Bluelyre
@Bluelyre 3 ай бұрын
I think it's probably because older guardians are generally adverse to forming connections, and we mostly interact with older guardians. Civilians are going to wither away while their lightbearer partner remains, and guardians are always at risk of their final death nowadays. And well, loss is more painful than any wound.
@fuckinantipope5511
@fuckinantipope5511 3 ай бұрын
​@@seraphdesFruehlings they mean relationships, like guardians or people in general having romantic relationships even though I think there are a bunch that are really good
@natterbot
@natterbot 3 ай бұрын
If you look around we do have relationships almost across the board for core characters. Most prominently saint and Osiris but also ana has a named girlfriend that she’s talked about introducing to Elsie. Devrim has his boyfriend that he talked about on length in defiance. Mara had Sjur Eido, Zavala had Safiyah, Crow had Amanda. There’s even possible romantic implications between Zavala and Caital if you want to go there, there was one voice line this dlc about ‘celebration’ between them which seemed implicit in a sense. I almost even forgot you’ve still got whatever is going on with Eris and Drifter. Destiny has explored the difficulties of building and having a relationship in the situation our characters find them in on multiple occasions
@theboard6082
@theboard6082 3 ай бұрын
I imagine it's not too common for regular people to get into a relationship with a Guardian. How do you even relate to what is essentially an immortal demigod whose day job is cosmic levels of violence?
@njebs.
@njebs. 3 ай бұрын
6:39 Byf misses a celestial still hunt shot then shakes his head
@MynameisByf
@MynameisByf 3 ай бұрын
My own self commentary is harsher than anything anyone else could say lol
@AverageJ03Gaming
@AverageJ03Gaming 3 ай бұрын
I also do the head shake when I fumble the bag, it's okay
@aves4311
@aves4311 2 ай бұрын
I missed two in the same dps phase in gambit. I almost cursed loud enough to wake the dead
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