Ranking The Most POWERFUL Guardians To Ever Exist In Destiny

[@EvazeOfficial]

Master Chief Vs. The Guardian: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYDPaHWZbcaEmck What would your “most powerful” Guardian list look it? Comment below! It’s really hard to judge this, but it was fun to do research on the incredible accomplishments of some of our favorite characters. Today we mention some epic Guardian accomplishments and rank our top 5 or so!

[@hostilestick1453]

1. my guardian 2. my second guardian 3. my third guardian 4. Saint-14 5. my fourth guardian

[@thetakenhollow7711]

Our Guardian currently has the greatest feats we know of. We killed gods, beings more powerful than gods, survived endless hordes of enemies, etc. We are a weapon of humanity, a force of nature that can not be overcome. Its gotten to the point to where gods like Savathun, who was ready to fight Ikora, another contender for strongest guardian, backed away after we showed that if need be, we could end her once more with relative ease. We killed the likes of Crota and Oryx within a YEAR of our resurrection, and we have only become more powerful with time. I could get into the powerscalling stuff, but there are videos out about that that would be better at explaining how ridiculous Destiny scaling is than some random youtube comment, but to sum it up, we are overpowered.

[@Vishalx01]

@@hostilestick1453brilliant 🤣🤣🤣

[@lucaricci1987]

@@thetakenhollow7711We’ve soloed a GM battleground nightfall

[@barstool9156]

The Guardian. We are a Weapon to be pointed. A force of Nature if you will

[@michaeljohnston8891]

Everybody gangsta until the guy who killed Crota, Oryx, and would go on to kill Riven, Savathun, Rhulk, Quria, Calus, and Nezarec breaks his 2 year vow of silence just to say he’s coming to beat your ass

[@Rosemaryrhwnskehgythgthhg]

Yep

[@Livan-yuruikami]

We've talked many times

[@ARMCcoy15]

That 2 years is too real

[@CowKirbo]

I mean yeah kinda. We are just built different

[@melone8833]

Don't forget all of the Siva powered Fallen, Ghaul while he had the same powers as us, and plenty more strong but not Godlike enemies such as Atheon, Skolas, Val Ca'our, and a lot of others.

[@caleb163]

In lore, The Guardian is the one they send to handle the things that would be straight up impossible in the hands of literally anyone else. We are literally the space wizard equivalent of John Wick.

[@ErosTheNerd]

Just remember when you hear "Guardian" it's a cannon Guardian event, when you hear "Fireteam" it's just a group doing a mission.

[@andromeda8505]

@@ErosTheNerd actually? no way

[@ErosTheNerd]

@@andromeda8505 Yea first time I heard about it I was like "Huh?" and I really started to listen to the background dialogues.

[@RekttalofBlades]

Osiris using duel blade Dawnbringer, throwing a Nova bomb and then casting Well of Radiance alongside a fireteam of light clones is nuts. He’s definitely number 2

[@yasininn76]

He is still n1. Just because he doesn't have powers anymore it doesn't mean his feats clealry out match eveyone else's

[@GravitonLance]

​@@yasininn76the guardian is number 1

[@strangestudios5381]

@@GravitonLanceno no we aren’t

[@NaderVaderYT]

we number 1 fr we eat are enemies for breakfast

[@khalilthe3rd]

@@strangestudios5381we are lol

[@galeanart7209]

Shaw han is so powerful that the vanguard locked him in the cosmodrome to avoid him one shooting the witness

[@JasperPerri]

I agree our guardian is the strongest to ever live. Our guardian is also seen as such a pillar of strength and admiration to every guardian leader that we can literally do what ever we want without repercussions. Zavala sees us as the only thing keeping himself and the guardians together. Ikora sees us as the Savvy and power she lacks. Osiris sees us as the person that can do things no one else can. Saint-14 looks at us as his hero and the person he wants to be. Eris Morn sees us as the person she trust the most because we have always been there for her through everything shes ever wanted to do to help. So basically we deserve the title of "THE Guardian" When we do things, humanity and the guardians follow. We are the living embodiment of catharsis.

[@barstool9156]

We are the Kingslayer. The Young Wolf. Hero of the Red War. Disciple Slayer. We have killed Gods and Worms alike. We traversed infinite simulations, and have made our own fate. We destroyed the House of Devils, and sowed havoc upon the House of Kings. We went to Mars and stomped the Cabal with such ease that it notified Ghaul of our existence and his next mission. We birthed the Red War, and we ended it. We killed the Last Ahamkara ending the Great Hunt. We are a dragonslayer. Most importantly, we have killed three Disciples of the Witness. The one who made the hive. The one who terrorized pre City Earth, and the one who Attacked Neomuna. We were the First to uncover Strand. The first to cross the line between Light and Dark, embracing Stasis. We built Trust between the Last City and the Reed Born Awoken. To say we are nothing but THE Guardian would be to do us a Disservice. Eyes Up

[@climbo23]

We're the biggest threat, not the strongest. We're evasive, clever, persistent, cooperative, creative and brave. But in no way the strongest, We may be stronger than ikora but that makes sense as she is also an all rounder Shaxx is a skilled gladiator with means of defence Cayde is a persistent and creative marksman Zavala is the pinnacle of cooperation and leadership Amanda wasn't even a guardian yet she was one of the most evasive humans known and a skilled pilot (she was renowned in the crucible) Osiris was cleverer than us, he was devoted to his knowledge and even mastered the infinite forest, basically he quite literally had time in his hands. Saint 14 became a horror story for eliksni children from how brutal and serial he was with his barbaric offensives Drifter is cunning and has had light for a longer time than most. He is not bound to one focus of light and he is a skilled trickster. Ana bray is the only known guardian or being to ever have an influence on teaching a warmind, a weaponised machine demigod basically, about humanity, I say humanity in the sense of manners, hobbies, poetry, interests, art, music etc. Lord shaxx was one of the 2 sole survivors of the siva outbreak where all but one of the other iron Lords did not. He was by far one of the most dextrous guardians. All these people are prime examples of how our guardian is not the strongest by any means, we are reliable and trustworthy, lucky and intimidating. But we are in specifics vastly outmatched by other guardians. We are the biggest threat as we have some of the greatest accomplishments. Just my opinion

[@barstool9156]

@@climbo23 First off, by no means does Strongest mean most capable. We are not the most capable guardian as you pointed out. We are not as smart, or as determined, or as tricky, but by far in large, we hold the most power. They may be a Shield, or a Knife, but we are a Nuke. Second. Lord Shaxx did not participate in the siege into the plague lands. The Warmind had no reason to go after him. He is not a survivor. He just did not Participate. There are two survivors. Saladin and Effriediet.

[@Velvet_Crowe]

What if we are the final shape?

[@sunupsmart]

@@barstool9156YEAHHHH WOOOOOO GO US

[@potato1341]

This whole speech about Ikora Rey makes me think how lucky Uldren Sov was that Zavala held her back in Forsaken. Imagine if she had shown up to the Reef; scorched earth, plain and simply. Glint would've never found crow to revive because she'd probably dunk 14 nova bombs on his head while in the middle of nova warp, he would've ash if he was lucky.

[@MetalOWLD2-lt7io]

I'm a Warlock Main but ikora is still trash. I like other future where she got killed by a stone when the cabal attacked the tower 🤣

[@miloknight585]

@@MetalOWLD2-lt7io You mean when they had to drop the entire tower on her to take her out?

[@SuperRONDALE]

@@MetalOWLD2-lt7ioThe incel warlock has arrived. Go read a book

[@Mike322161]

Not really lucky, we sent ourselves. The godslayer was coming to beat him down with more drive than he had for the other guys

[@MrBlueSky1293]

@@MetalOWLD2-lt7ioAs a Warlock main, we don’t claim this guy.

[@younghusk5057]

It’s Esoterickk. The canonical guardian that solo flawlesses everything

[@danilopolar6476]

He plays a lore accurat Guardian, going solo to raids and doing faster than me and other 5 stupid guardians

[@ozberkolcer]

To be fair there are much better and efficient solo players than Esoterickk. Like Xemo who completed RoN solo flawless.

[@Obi482]

@@ozberkolcerbro there is hella people that beat that “dungeon” solo flawless

[@Obi482]

@@ozberkolceresoterica also holds more records if I remember correctly. (Not totally sure if he does still)

[@ozberkolcer]

​@@Obi482 RoN is a 6 man raid not a dungeon, Esoterickk didnt completed it solo flawless

[@walkerjaIII]

I don’t know if Id move him to the top because of this, but one thing that wasn’t mentioned about Shin Malphur that is a fairly crucial point is that he has never died. Not once in combat ever, because he’s still around. His personal ghost fell when he was a baby, so his entire life he’s been living with just that one life, and is still consistently putting down every guardian or lightbearer he needs to. Just something to think about. For me, he’s a bit closer to the top, especially since he’s the man that founded the shadows of yor and found a method of safely and properly using the darkness, without tainting our light. That’s worth some points in the knowledge department

[@JoshuaArrike]

Wait, Shin lost his ghost?

[@walkerjaIII]

@@JoshuaArriketechnically Shin never knew his personal ghost. I believe it’s been confirmed that the baby that was saved in the Confessions of Hope part 1 and 2 lore pages was Shin, and his ghost sacrificed itself to save both the baby as well as a number of people fleeing fallen raiders in the dark ages

[@sergiomariotti9354]

​@@walkerjaIIInope. Simply Shin use the ghost of his father Jaren Ward

[@walkerjaIII]

@@sergiomariotti9354they are allies, and definitely work together, but he can’t just use Jarens ghost as if it were his own. Ghosts can only revive and paracausally heal their own guardian. Shin is no exception

[@emti29]

but did shin kill a god?

[@Cabbage22927]

It’s my guardian

[@Jesuslover2000]

Our guardian.

[@amya5277]

No mine

[@Ace-Intervention]

@@Jesuslover2000fr

[@Gh_ost-x]

Nah, Its just me

[@lucaricci1987]

What other guardian killed 3 disciples? Savathun doesn’t count because she killed Nazarec before getting light, that’s like saying Crow killed Cayde, If Eris hive god turned on us, we’d still destroy

[@RamiRatedR]

The “Guardian” (Us) is easily the Most powerful. Look at what have we beat in the last 10 years.

[@FierceDeityBaryon]

What the Guardian (Us) has defeated is irrelevant, any guardian with enough experience could accomplish the same achievements. It's what would happen when you compare the feats of power from the strongest Guardians and who wields it the best.

[@alter6243]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@FierceDeityBaryonBy that same token, the skill at which one can wield the light is also irrelevant. Our guardian specifically is limited to how well we could wield our light through gameplay. The only thing stopping the Guardian from combining supers together is the gameplay. If we can’t fairly compare feats, then we also can’t fairly compare skill at using the Light. Edit: It’s also not very accurate to say “any guardian with enough experience could accomplish the same achievement.” Ikora should not be considered in a tier highly above other Guardians if every Guardian had the same potential. Ikora was still being mentored by Osiris only a few decades ago. The same Speaker who was there when Ikora became Warlock Vanguard is the same Speaker from D1 and vanilla D2 who is a normal human. Shaxx should be even more powerful by your logic as he has had even more experience than Ikora and at one point ruled over other Guardians. Yet Shaxx is never stated to be in the same tier as Ikora. Felwinter was a mentor to Osiris who went to mentor Ikora. Felwinter fought relative to Shaxx. Lore confirms Ikora was the only person to fairly beat Shaxx in the crucible. Therefore, the argument of experience can’t be true when you have clear outliers like Ikora, Ana Brey and Saint 14.

[@mist5142]

@@alter6243that is one loooong edit

[@stealthywolvesclanleader2750]

Lore wise we are nothing compared to the strong guardians

[@kurohaizaki8951]

You know what we couldn’t beat though? Bees. Badger. Weasel.

[@DomiBlueShellz]

Allways remember that in lore we can spam infinite supers as well but with the exception that we have mastered 4 elements and basically were the creators of strand

[@lanceleaym2705]

It's our gaurdian for sure. In the lore, it speaks of how most gaurdians have a hard time attuning themselves to different spectrums of the light, and some are often unable to weild more than one aspect of the elements provided. A good example of this is from one of the spire of the watcher lore cards, which describes how the tex mechanica warlock struggles to effectively use his void abilities without his ghosts assistance, where in contrast our gaurdians have been able to weild effectively and efficiently all aspects of the light in multiple different ways. We've brought down actual pantheons as well that at one point had nigh omnipotential dominion in our universe by creating pocket sub universes of their own which we in our infant understandings of the darkness where able to breach. Another big thing we have beyond being able to manipulate the light and its capabilities is our understanding of the darkness and consciousness itself that allows us to tap into these deeper manifestations of power. Most gaurdians when they attempt to do this are either consumed by the power itself where they go mad and acquire warrants of a final death, or are too afraid in general of the temptation that comes with it, where we now weild two different sub types with discipline and grace that comes with the philosophy that follows each. No gaurdian in history outside of ours has been able to achieve such an equilibrium of power and presence, and that's why we are relied upon every time there is an existential threat.

[@yasininn76]

Cough cough Osiris cough cough

[@TheBlaze22b]

​@@yasininn76we know osiris can use solar and void we've heard of no lore cards where he uses Arc

[@Thetravelingmonke]

Fr tho like what other lore guardian is using eager’s edge to move at mach 300 to speed run killing gods because it gives us cool guns

[@DiddyCanFly]

The player Guardian is absolutely the most powerful. The list of accomplishments, mastering subclasses immediately and with the ability to 1v2 Shaxx and Ikora in the crucible all but guarantees the gulf of power that puts us at #1.

[@xrstevenson]

When did that happened? All I heard was we beat Shaxx 3v2 in the Crucible a few years back. Meaning that while we are powerful, we ain't unbeatable.

[@racoonwithrabies]

​@@xrstevensonforgetting that the crucible has limitations for fight is...

[@DiddyCanFly]

@@xrstevensonI’m simply implying that we could do this in the Crucible. It’s becoming to the point that we are Goku and everyone else at the tower are the Z Fighters. At one point we were all in the same realm to some extent, but now we’re super saiyans compared to earthlings.

[@beatblocksgaming]

Imagine one moment when the cuffs come off and we get full freedom of power like Osiris, we rapidly switch between subclasses, using our abilities to mow through an army in a last stand as the traveller’s avatar, maybe even getting some kind of pure light attack

[@barstool9156]

I don’t think Bungie will ever do that for us. At least not in a Cinematic.

[@beatblocksgaming]

@@barstool9156 it’s more of an ideal what if

[@acgearsandarms1343]

Would love to learn how to make Echoes of ourselves as a Warlock main. Hunters can make shadow clones that make elemental explosions on death. As for Titans with Echoes, ultimate phalanx and turtle formations.

[@bananabananas8119]

imagine an unlimited Golden Gun

[@HirasSketches]

Using every subclass in one cutscenes would be crazy

[@sora_2342]

It’s for sure our guardian. We might be lucky, me might be chosen or we are just stupid and everything works out but we have by far the most impressive feats

[@Cumbernumb]

In the latest season we are confirmed to be stronger than Ikora. Savathun states that Ikora doesn’t have the power to defeat her but our guardians in a lore tab actually speaks and says that while Ikora can’t they can.

[@novabomb4973]

​@@Cumbernumbthat wasnt her admitting anything. She was disappointed that we hadnt figured out how to get into the portal ourselves yet. I dont think she even looks at us when we say that. Just sighs

[@katalyst_]

feats arent entirely representative, idk why everyone think sits the end all be all, theres too many factors to condier and i know for damn sure wed get shit on by osiris in his prime

[@WaveOfDestiny]

Remember how Master Chief was lucky? The Guardian is the same, because he is Destiny. Roll credits.

[@IncorporatedMonsters]

Missed the coolest part about Shin Malphur, he’s the only guardian who was found while he was alive, he wasn’t brought back by his ghost

[@reap3r90]

Here is the main reason why THE GUARDIAN is the most powerful being in the Destiny universe: because most of us are also battling invisible battles against depression, anxiety, personal darkness, impostor syndrome, personal tragedy, but we are still here. I know Destiny is just a game, but it has helped me to get out some of my deepest pits of despair, keep my sanity and find amazing people. Eyes up Guardians, from where to the Final Shape and beyond it’s been an absolute honor to fight alongside you all.

[@vaporition]

right there with u Guardian

[@mathewserrano2262]

That’s not in the lore

[@vaporition]

@@mathewserrano2262 actually if I remember correctly there are accounts of Guardians so distraught they jumped from the tower

[@anxivty]

well said brother

[@mathewserrano2262]

@@vaporition i was just messing around

[@imorangeorangejustonadiffa9648]

Shaxx backhanding felwinters head off is now my favorite piece of lore alongside the time a guardian altered timelines to get a god roll shotgun with trench barrel.

[@Miguel25Bryant]

A year from now it’ll be Cayde. You can write that down. He’ll be the fist guardian to actually wield light in its purest form. Or at least I hope so

[@jonasalbert7963]

It looks like his eyes are emitting literal pure traveler light, so I think he is pretty much the travelers avatar at the point of Final Shape

[@taylerphoenix9388]

If cayde gets prismatic or shows us how to then you might just be right 😂

[@vinimp584]

Ok how tf did u predict this so closely

[@TheDirtyBum900]

​@@vinimp584bungie Fed detected lol

[@tormentedstar8480]

I mean... Close enough?

[@Orieth1031]

With knowing how shin made the golden gun it makes me wish we were able to make our own supers but with that being said it would take a HEAVY amount of coding and there’s no real way to do that I’d think, but it would be cool

[@quinlanyates9530]

I believe cayde was the first blade barrage user, and we are the creators of all of the strand powers.

[@Orieth1031]

@@quinlanyates9530 well that’s neat

[@onlyonekenobi2303]

@@quinlanyates9530and stasis?

[@RyanChavez-Higel]

@@onlyonekenobi2303Europa is cold?

[@DawnNamine]

Its been shown in game as a cannon event that we, our guardian, are capable of utilizing multiple supers in quick succession, though its via pools of purified light that empowers us. Our connection is not strong enough to wield the light in such ways alone.

[@SuperRONDALE]

Yes we can lol

[@DawnNamine]

@@SuperRONDALE okay, go ahead and cite the lore for me!

[@somerandominternetdweller]

Mayhem mode in the crucible is probably the closest to a canon or your stronger guardians. Considering if listen to the dialogue, they say your light is unburdened. Otherwise most of “restrictions” are mainly due to gameplay. Imagine being over powered all the time? It probably wouldn’t make for a fun game. Imagine playing the lore version of Doomguy/Doomslayer in Doom, as opposed to the video game version? Or even playing the lore version of Kratos in God of War, as opposed to video game version? Yeah a big difference in power.

[@commanderkit-kat9314]

Honestly, i reslly think the easiest explanation that could be given for cooldown mechanics in Destiny is this. As a young guardian, we still dont have the knowledge how to best maximize our Light's efficiency, so cannot cast supers back to back. Another close and possibly connected idea is the fact we are actively pouring every ounce of strength into each ability to maximize output instead of efficiency, hence why our abilities are super strong in game.

[@lolspartain]

when we did missions that forced us to acquire strand/stasis we pretty much had infinite energy allowing us to do back to back abilities with no issues. The closest we can get to this is having mods/exotics that regen our abilities almost instantly

[@commanderkit-kat9314]

@lolspartain Exactly. Though as a Darkness based power, our emotions were running hot and high, both from combat, saving Osiris and finding out we weren't alone so the infinite energy could be assumed that we truly merged with the River during those few times, let the flow guide us.

[@emperorcrotagaming4930]

With the game mechanics in Destiny 1 and 2, you are able to pop supers back to back to back, you just have to fill your bar each time to do it but is possible, also when you go to get your powers back during the red war and when you unlocked new powers in destiny 1, your bar insta filled when your super ran out alloying you to pop your supers back to back.

[@DomiBlueShellz]

The question should be who is the strongest guardian aside us

[@evannirl]

my love for ikora grows the more i learn about her. i feel like a lot of ppl kind of push her to the side bc they think she’s boring but shes always been interesting to me!

[@mdp720]

If you played D1, there was different dialogue in D2 when you were introduced to enemies like the Taken. If there were ever a D3, I'd love if it the premise was that your D2 guardian died in the final battle and was memorialized as the savior of the solar system. Your new guardian would start as a character that looks up to your old one as a hero, and fights off new threats. Or maybe even a different track that casts your old guardian as a villain, because you know what you did.

[@vcvvvALT]

Watching this after TFS when Saint-14 holds a bubble the entire final fight.

[@ok-up3up]

technically there are many moment in the game where we also used supers back to back from buffs that boost our super regen to team comps that can cycle golden guns almost infinitely with the constant generating of orbes of power

[@xrstevenson]

Its more than that. Finishers confirmed that Supers are simply locked behind game mechanics. There is no Super. There is only The Light and how we wield it. Osiris could Icarius Dash and Phoenix dive his Dawnblade, throw Nova Bombs and even a Chaos Reach all under half a minute. The more attuned we are with Light the more various ways we can wield it. Hunters conjure phyiscal items as conduits to better wield the Light. Titans enhance their strength and power and will using the Light and as a result their Supers varied. Warlocks use their own bodies as the conduit, and their abilities are depend solely on their big brains capacity to feeling the Light. Mind you, not everyone can use any affinity they want to, many stumble upon it and others have teachers to pass on the knowledge, some are just closed minded to learn and others simply can't learn, such as how Stasis requires the user to enforce their Will upon the universe and Strands requires one to relinquish control to the universe. Rhats a pretty hard feat to accomplish and even harder to wield both Stasis and Strand at once/one after another.

[@ok-up3up]

@@xrstevenson yep your were way mor precice than me but its more or less the same thing the only reason we can't do all this in game is game balance

[@seanmabry9922]

Honestly, I'm surprised you (and the comments I read so far) didn't bring up the "I made this for you" Medal. We are the first Guardian to get it, but thanks for the video. Didn't even know about that Traveler's Shard thing until know.

[@syl_ster230]

I think another reason The Guardian should be one is because they are essentially the stand-in for every player. including the single best Crucible player and the single best PvE player (whatever that may mean), and all of that in a fraction of the time spent alive of the rest of the list.

[@FatemaRotna-q6e]

Wait wait wait we’re not gonna talk abt the fact that cayde decided to take on a whole army of scorn despite his ghosts death plus he was (so far) the only guardian to come back from the dead? Also he was the vanguard at the time of shin as well which goes to show that there must have been more accomplishments that he had done but not revealed to us yet

[@anon05.]

Ik this is old as hell but cayde was only vanguard because he lost a bet it had nothing to do with his strength

[@REDcladSPECTER]

I wish we had a bit more lore into Rezyl Azzir before and after he bacame Dredgen Yor. We know he was a very powerful titan before succumbing to darkness but we don’t have much specifics. As the man who gave Shin a run for his money before finally being bested, he’s probably not too far behind Shin.

[@Aj-py8en]

I really want to see Osiris start learning darkness and regain a lot of his strength, just with a different power

[@ryanhickson6399]

I wish we would get animated shorts for destiny like how overwatch has. With how nerfed everyone is ingame id love to see lore accurate characters. For example, their is a time where savathun acidently moved her hand to fast and ripped a hole in space time. Id just love to see moments like this

[@dragonlord7987]

I think with what bungie said about other guardians getting their light back from the shard was a lore explanation for other guardians in fireteams having light at their disposal in red war strikes (i never got to play the red war so this is my thought bubble)

[@yadeel8281]

Radiant cloning would be such a cool Dawnblade ability to have

[@voidwalker9939]

we are so strong Ruinous Effigy's light consuming effect (it drains the wielder's light) is not noticed by our Guardian

[@yhelloh]

Pretty sure it's that yHelloh guy with over 1,250 Seventh Column medals :P (ikora would nova bomb me out of golden gun probably every time...)

[@therealludwigtheholyblade]

Playing against Ikora is like playing against a 6-stack of Brazilian players at 3:42 in the morning. It’s an unfair match-up everytime

[@pdiggydog8439]

Crucible doesn't count scrub

[@yhelloh]

@@pdiggydog8439 to you maybe lol

[@shlimmyjimmy7287]

A six man fireteam of warlord guardians was formed to assassinate Lord Shaxx. All six of them died a final death to Lord Shaxx

[@Icarus6783]

The kindest hearts can exhibit the most righteous rage. Saint killed Savathun over and over again to prove that point.

[@heerosagayuy2143]

After sneaking her. Not to knock saint but it wasnt a square up fight. And honestly I doubt it could happen again

[@jameskelso2435]

​@@heerosagayuy2143 The first time he threw a void shield at her but He killed her and let her ghost revive her 10 times no way the other 9 times was sneaking her

[@heerosagayuy2143]

@@jameskelso2435 he told her there’s a weakness in guardians when they first revive. That he would teach her what it feels to be helpless. It wasn’t a fight he would kill her over and over as soon as she revived. She never gets a chance to defend herself

[@DrendeSalkash259]

i honestly think we're overlooking the Drifter in this. i wouldn't say it's because of his raw power, but he has wielded both the light and the dark, has lived for far longer than a vast majority of guardians, has the knowledge to create and modify unknown tech, and has a vast wealth of knowledge from personal experience that many guardians would kill to have. and some have done so. no, while i wouldn't count him as strongest for his power, his sheer tenacity to make it thru is what i'd give it to him for. if not in top 5 at least for an honorable mention

[@scottW78]

Yeah he’s like the Batman of Destiny; not necessarily that powerful, but contingencies on contingencies

[@acgearsandarms1343]

Both in lore and in dialogue, it was Osiris. But he no longer has Sagira and the Light. So not sure if it’s now Saint because there are a lot of contenders for runner up.

[@katalyst_]

id say between us ikora and saint its pretty close all around , but in his prime osiris easily shits on everyone, he was literally a fkn god lol

[@jagan9235]

The amount of guardians sleepin on ikoras power baffles me

[@icarusblues7699]

I want a rework for Saint-14's helm. Make it change the void sheild charge into a headbutt

[@DiogoPace]

“The guardian” is out of the question I believe

[@LightSwitchGaming-145]

Our guardians have the ability to share knowledge through the 4th wall and bend the secrets of the universe to make Trace rifles fire grenade launcher shots, amidst other paracausal bugs.

[@AaronFOF1624]

For a while i have been thinking, because our ghost got the light back from the shard of the traveler, we would technically be bound to the living shard and not the traveler itself, meaning that even if savathun locked the traveler away and it somehow affected everyone, it would not have affected us because the shard would still be on earth

[@zedropulse]

Unfortunately the Traveller repaired itself to face off against the witness, so all the shards that were once not attached are part of the traveller once again, so unfortunately we would still lose light

[@xiphosmaniac]

@@zedropulse huh? i guess i never noticed or bothered to look, but the shard aint in the edz/farm anymore? I know the traveler repaired itself, but wasnt that done off screen? i dont really remember.

[@JoshuaArrike]

@@zedropulse Wdym? The shard remains in the EDZ, as well as the one we went to for our powers back

[@Connor-of-Rivia]

This is where the fun begins

[@igotdropped3timesbyzykzs]

I was legit typing that you missed the savathun and our guardian lore tab then I heard you mention it. was really hoping you would, something like that is really rare. It's the one thing that sorta proves we're stronger than ikora

[@stevenbabinski7635]

I have always been so interested in shin malfur. I always hope that we will get to see him in game

[@aistikasmursu9432]

in lore as of this moment we are the single most powerful guardian to ever exist by simply having the unilateral advantage of prismatic and having both light and dark in harmony inside of us.

[@Mr_sinister19]

Now, the guardian killed the Witness It’s no doubt the guardian is one of the most if not THE most powerful guardian to ever live

[@healthcaredotgov3097]

Someone to keep an eye on in the future is 100% Crow. Crow is like us, and was capital C Chosen by the Traveler, as we see in the Hawkmoon quest. In the short time he's been with us, he's been pulling off feats that a lot of others wouldn't dare do solo. He was fighting the Wrathborn on his own while he was with Spider, he was able to traverse and navigate the Ascendant Plane, and all the scouting and forward ops work he's done with the Vanguard already put him at a high natural level. But he's also got heart, and a fresh perspective that lets him adapt to the new era, better than a lot of the cast. Hunter Vanguard material right there.

[@xiphosmaniac]

crow was one of the highlights of the season of the haunted for me. I really liked how they shoved the fact he was Uldren Sov in his face, and his former enemies are now his allies. I truly thought he was going to succumb to the realization he was a bad guy in his past life, and through some guilty self-punishment, refuse to accept forgiveness and be an outcast. But no, he literally faced his demons, and had conviction. He told Uldren No, multiple times. He accepted his past, and accepts his chance at a new future, and has fully embraced it. Seeing him go through the growing emotional pains has definitely shot him up my list of favorites. He went from damn near the bottom to one of the tops. I just want him to stop shitting on zavala.

[@PhaIIanxx]

Very impressive work you have put into this. Thank you. I'd like to know why Cayde and Zavala havent gotten their own spot?

[@cactus2853]

Cayde-6…just because of the power of hope he brings by being himself. He brings smiles when they need.

[@lordtachanka5512]

Probably my old friend Conner, guy was cracked

[@zero_karma0496]

In the upcoming dlc I really want to see a guardian as a boss from the witness just corrupting the traveler or something like that

[@Daniel.Belas1]

When it comes to multiple super consecutively, i mean technically we do that already, be in in Mayhem crucible or whenever we aquire a new subclass or theres those wells of light that give us our super back really fast. Perhaps those are only for us just like the traveler gave only us those visions

[@LostEnding_]

I’m surprised you didn’t mention how the young wolf is pioneering the darkness subclasses

[@cristi877fcjogs]

1. My Guardian 2. Saint-14 3.Osiris 4.Shaxx 5.Shin Malphur 6.Ikora 7.Dredgen Yor (Rezzir Azzyl) 8.Saladin 9.Ana Bray 10.Zavala

[@stealthywolvesclanleader2750]

Man really said Yor

[@vV_Viggo]

[Only after the Burning Lake did Shaxx hesitate, precisely. What did he witness there? The same thing Eris sees now? The same as Toland? As Rezyl? What was the truth that was veiled in shadow and soulfire?] ]]]It’s me.[[[

[@KaPzLok]

Has any guardian past or present...became a "Guardian" WITHOUT.. dying, and being resurrected..

[@swarlly]

Would be cool if they could code a large battle of us and many of the Gurdian NPCs fighting against the Witnesses forces in The Final Shape. Kind of like how the Imperial Cabal help us in Desperate Measures while defending the vault.

[@MDstats55]

I got a feeling that is actually gonna happen in Final Shape. That or we will have to fight all out friends in order to stop the end of everything. Can you imagine? We gotta fight through Saint, Shaxx, Ikora, Saladin, Zavala, Ana and who knows who else in order to stop the Witness. That would be something.

[@afilthyweeb8684]

Come back and play

[@CroculousV2]

I also think that our Guardian is the strongest because whenever our ghost gets destroyed (no respawn areas) we go back in time before we ever entered and we try again.

[@DeAlvizo]

I feel like some day we will learn why we were the chosen one, even on final shape trailer, it seams to be teasing about the truth of our existence.

[@Safeguard1]

I remember that moment when you got your Light back, I had CHILLS, so awesome!

[@goldengod31]

Dregen Yor and One eyed Mask lore Titans are preety bad ass too and in my top 3of my fav Titans

[@thisissarcasm9579]

Something that I take into account is that the most powerful Guardians tend go be centuries old, and that Saladin has several lines where he tells us to feed or grow our Light. The fact that our Guardian has ability cooldowns(though this can be hand waved as "because video games") and can't spam supers like Osiris or Tevis may be age related. And going off of this, assuming that a Guardian's Light really does grow with age and frequent use, we can assume that if Ikorahas the potential energy of the common tactical nuke, Lord Saladin is packing Tsar Bomba. We have lore of him being literally unstoppable when his super is activated; the man was melting bullets, completely ignoring them. And then there's what he can do just channeling his Light through his axe, he really messed the SIVA Splicers up with that alone, and left rifts wherever he struck. It really begs the question; is Lord Saladin even using one percent of his power? And do we even want to see a threat great enough to make him actually go nuclear?

[@chrislauber318]

My opinion is that it’s the Guardian, regardless of what class they are. Hunter, Warlock, Titan. Zavala and Saladin ought to have been mentioned, as should Elsie, Drifter and Eris Morn.

[@MW2proification]

Ikora said "Guardians insist on treating ‘power' as a monotonically increasing value with a single dimension. Guardians will casually create ordinal ranks of the ‘power’ of their comrades when, in truth (but not in fact-Light is not constrained by facts) capability with the Light is not only a multifactor landscape but strongly and stochastically influenced by circumstantial, personal, and esoteric variables. The Light is, by definition, paracausal and obeys a logic different from physical concepts like charge, heat, or angular momentum. Any analogy to these physical measurements of power' will fail to capture the true efficacy of a Guardian. Instead, we must look to self-understanding, clarity of purpose, and internalized phenomenologies and ontologies. (Witness the self-reinforcing rise of Guardian classes and subclasses as logically consistent and easily transmitted bundles of technique: essentially, Guardian cultural artifacts based on distinct interpretations of the Light; kernel logics from which implementations easily unfold. Or, put differently, optimae of discoverability in a phase space of possible techniques.) The Human or neohuman mind is an agglomeration of automatic processes, and consciousness cannot access most of them; in the same way, most of the truth of the Light is invisible to the self-inspection of the Lightbearer. Asking any Guardian, myself not excluded, to leap through a few experimental hoops is not and never will be an effective way to test either their tactical or their epistemological ability."

[@GylleneGott]

I low-key think it's the Drifter since we haven't seen his full power yet.

[@dduunnddrree]

You forgot Ouras! Third Empyreal Magistrate of the Sunbreakers!

[@randomgenretalk8151]

I'm 100% sure in the final battle in the Final Shape, our Guardian combines all 6 Powers to create a 7th power that is basically all Supers at once.

[@barstool9156]

We don’t have 6 powers, and we won’t get a 6th in Final Shape. There will not be a 7th, but I can see the Guardian using all 3 light powers to create the purest form of Light and use it to cave in the skull of the witness full Titan Style.

[@cullubbowzer8095]

You didn’t watch the trailer for TFS, did you?

[@acgearsandarms1343]

@@barstool9156 Would love some new aspects. We have only two or three for the Light subclasses. Variety wouldn’t hurt.

[@barstool9156]

@@acgearsandarms1343 … Is this sarcasm. We are getting more aspects… Did you not watch the TFS Reveal?

[@Mrsir529]

There are only five 1: Solar 2: Arc 3: Void 4: Stasis 5: Strand

[@ilucasz]

Well, the number 1 has to be our guardian, considering Zavala's dialogue (excuse me) to Caiatl.

[@ryanbennett2806]

Radaghast and Saladin should both be mentions for Titans. Toland also deserves a mention for warlocks. He has accomplished something no others have.

[@leftygaming4522]

How powerful was Toland? Wasn’t he Osiris mentor or something? Idk I just remember him studying the ways of the darkness back when it was taboo and was exiled as well. So the fact that he was able to be the little wisp of light thing means he’s gotta be somewhat powerful or knowledgeable

[@dudehello2903]

Nothing no will ever convince me that Osiris isn’t the strongest guardian to ever live, the man was insane

[@Razzy-sr4oq]

We all know OUR Guardian is the most powerful, but in good faith, I'll be considering NPCs only. Really undersold Wei Ning, here. She is the First Striker, the Juggernaut, Scourge of the Hive, Mother of Bitchslaps. Cracking a mountain in half with a single blow is apparently not at all exaggeration, and it took a demi-god to finally stop her. The lore we have about her is scant but each piece makes her to be a larger-than-life, fearsome and unstoppable force on the battlefield. Her death essentially cemented losing the battle of Twilight Gap. I feel Saint-14 and Ikora would tie here, equivalent power in different applications. Ikora can deal enormous AoE, but Saint-14 just doesn't go down. Notably, he _was_ selected by the Traveler; the Speaker was given a vision of where to go to find Saint-14 and rezz him. He's also had visions and a deeper understanding of the Light than most. But there's a lot of chars I think you missed here: Lady Efrideet, Sloane, Eris Morn, Andal Brask, Drifter, Saladin Forge, Felwinter. There are a lot of legends.

[@NixLupus]

Interesting watching this after final shape where its kinda confirmed our guardian is the most powerful

[@maxbardus3019]

Osiris has strand now. He is OP again

[@cullubbowzer8095]

Our Guardian also canonically beat Shaxx in the Crucible 3-2. It was a close battle, but we’re the only other Guardian who’s beaten Shaxx along with Ikora.

[@sergiomariotti9354]

There is also Cayde-6

[@parsifalkitty5109]

Seeing that glimpse of the D1 Dawning Tower brings back so much memories. Also I only think Solo Raid Speedrunners are the real "Guardian"

[@ringomandingo1015]

Toland I feel is powerful but not for might but for his knowledge. Simply understanding sword logic allowed him to circumvent final death without a ghost. What good is all the strength in the universe if a small gnat keep coming back?

[@jerikojonesjr]

Considering how a fireteam of hunters can pop golden gun (star eater scales) over and over again in quick succession, even when being limited by game mechanics, our guardian is probably higher than we think.

[@Kwisatz-Chaderach]

Esoterickk i would say.

[@CheezerTheGrate]

Realistically you could say that The Drifter can be somewheres up there… but I’m unsure on where tbh

[@VArisTHE_sinnerrr]

Ok this shouldnt be a debate its osiris and its not even close prime osiris literally one shots current young wolf not to mention his reflections all being as stromg as him our guardian has bassically no hax compared to like every other guardian even shaw han has higher hax than us demonstrated through his well of radiance golden gun thing he did the power scaling at least imo goes Osiris>saint+YW>ikora+shin+drifter>shaxx>all iron lords+zavala>cayde>shadows of yor>low tier named guardians (shaw han maeve cass etc)> unnamed guardians

[@mercenaryelite]

This better mention Shin Malphur at some point Also cant wait for this video, it's gonna be great 🎉

[@JackofAllGigs]

Shin can’t be revived we are the top guardian even the most powerful titan to ever exist looks up to us

[@mercenaryelite]

@@JackofAllGigs I never said he had to be the best one , I was just hoping he would be mentioned in this video, which he was

[@JaredBruski]

​@@JackofAllGigsdude only needs the one life. Pretty sure that makes him even more dangerous

[@anthonybarto1654]

can you imagine how fun it would be if we had a destiny game with warframe ability systems? Equipping up to 4 different abilities ranging from different elements and varying damage dealing, or buffs for a true power fantasy. We'd probably never see it happen but man i wish we had more of a power fantasy with our abilities rather than a power fantasy with our guns. Nothing tops the moments when we have unlimited ability energy and supers during the campaign missions

[@RobertSmith-hr4cf]

The guardian who has the crafted bugged Ammit is the strongest

[@stephenvance4867]

This video just came across my feed, so I'm speaking with knowledge about The Final Shape that wasn't available when the video was released. That being said, I believe that mastering Prismatic will solidify our guardian as the most powerful guardian as we will be the only one, to my knowledge at least, who can wield both the light and the darkness together.

[@blindvirgil1162]

Tbh the curse of Osiris sound track is lowkey gas

[@commanderchucky139]

This was nice to hear what you think the strongest guardian is, but I would have liked to also here were you would place a lot of the other guardians like the ones during the age of the iron lords, some of them were first guardians to be brought back by the traveler. (eg. Drifter, Lord Salad man) I wouldn't change your list, I agree with your choices for the top 5

[@zach11241]

I would say my Guardian is the most powerful..... but he bonked his head on a cavern corner and plummeted into the abyss. Twice. So, yeah, that fucking happened.

[@93ksj]

Shin Malphur is described in the lore as the prodigy kid and probably the strongest guardian to ever live

[@reggielacey2235]

We are infinitely more powerful

[@WeakestSunshotEnjoyer]

@@reggielacey2235idk about that he’s maybe 1 of the VERY few guardians that could kill us, remember that this man hunted down guardians capable of perma-killing lightbearers and was so good at it they viewed him as the fucking boogeyman

[@Thatdude_2002]

@@WeakestSunshotEnjoyerremember the boogeyman wanted him to win

[@ringomandingo1015]

@@reggielacey2235dawg doesn’t know what plot armor is 💀💀

[@mattkase8880]

Iirc the story of the missions in getting thorn and lumina is a test by shin to see if we are worthy and have control. If not, he was ready to kill us

[@tonybee85]

this channel has kept me invested in "Disney 2" as my son says

[@Miklprkr18]

Other than the player guardian, who I think would canonically be the strongest, I gotta give it to Ikora. During Ghauls invasion, most guardians were trying to retreat and evacuate civilians. But we see Ikora on the offensive, which means she was in much more danger when she lost her light than say Zavala or Shaxx

[@Christopher-yc5py]

Please do the same thing with powerful enemies

[@lindah6954]

The Bond Brothers is up there. lol

[@sunshot_addict]

Rhulk is #1

[@reubeytuesday9550]

Would be pretty cool if at some point we were trapped in a Vex simulation and we had to kill simulated replicas of Ikora, Osiris, Saint etc (not Cayde though…)

[@EwwwApex]

Eris Morn- during her time as a hive god she would have had the powers of stasis, an ahamkara bone in her possession, and being the most powerful hive to have ever existed. If killing Oryx, a hive god, was a feat that no one else could have imagined, and took a FIRETEAM OF SIX (canonically) to do so, Eris being definitively much more powerful than any of the hive gods is just insane.