Destiny 2 Lore - When Sloane was captured by Xivu Arath, this is how Ahsa saved her.

Destiny 2's Lore and Story from the Season of the Deep tells us about how Ahsa saved Sloane from Xivu Arath. During her time on Titan Sloane was captured by the Hive God of War and was about to be killed by her taken and Hive forces. The Proto-Worm God Ahsa attacked and was able to escort Sloane and her ghost away before disaster ensued.
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[@moonwhooper]

Imagine sloanes journey on titan as a horror episode of a destiny anthology series? We got a glimpse in the final cutscene

[@212thBeehiveMan]

That would be so cool

[@Gunzz_didit]

Sounds like some fan fiction creation

[@davidrthurber7547]

Tears for Ahsa, Tears for Sloane. But joy found in their bonding. Hope springs anew.

[@IsThatDonnieDiddle]

Titan is honestly one of my favorite planets visually its cool looking at the raging waters and seeing Ahsa swimming around the area

[@SpaceHostBrak]

From what I gathered, much like how Savathun, Oryx, and Sivu Arath all have a worm, it would appear that Sloan has a worm as well, given that they signed a quasi-contract.

[@VictoryOverAll]

The way Ahsa just wants "to be known", is a really interesting mirror/parallel to how the Worm Gods require tribute. It's almost like the worms' ability to thrive/live/exist relies on being acknowledged in some way, and making bonds is a key part of this. Ahsa makes a bond with Sloane, much like the Hive and their Worms have a bond, and via tribute this bond extends to the Worm Gods. The bond of the proto-worms seems like it is made with love, possibly more symbiotic, but in their transformation to Worm Gods this was twisted to become a vicious bond, more parasitic. Then there's Ahsa diving into an "ascendant dream" and taking Sloane along for the ride, which might be linked to the ability to Take, as that involves ripping an individual from the material universe and plunging them into the Ascendant Realm. The Worm Gods are like a dark and violent mirror of the (potentially benevolent) proto-worms.

[@giannicolamatteo8155]

The are like the Wish dragons excerpt they thrive on being very Needy

[@zmangkrd5312]

I guess that “leviathan” we saw was Ahsa this entire time. That’s a great way to unfold a mystery people were wondering about since the release of destiny 2.,

[@althechicken9597]

"Are you hoping to live through this?" "No... I hoped you would" Chilling lines

[@aske-m4j]

Does anyone else see the similar plotline from that episode of Stargate Atlantis where the whales were causing brain aneurysms trying to warn the humans about a solar flare and the psychic whale story mentioned here?

[@XNesuneX]

Thank you for your videos, Byf. With the constant barrage of negative comments and endless complaining about Destiny hitting me in the face every time I open any social media app, it’s nice to have your wonderful videos help to remind me why I love the game and it’s lore.

[@oxsila]

He's literally the only Destiny channel i'm still subscribed to. One of the rare places of positivity. I play games to escape life's bs, not find more of it lol

[@XNesuneX]

@@oxsila Me too.

[@cpaul562]

The Destiny community is mostly made up of people who have the attention span of a goldfish and get angry no matter what bungie does, so expecting them to be positive or intelligent is an exercise in futility. There are some damn good parts of the community though.

[@Rith9789]

​@@oxsilaaztecross is great. He does negative videos. But the vast majority he's so excited to play.

[@DiceEnjoyerSgtHops]

^^^ I wish I could like twice

[@codyseus4787]

Siochain is a badass ghost

[@hockeypan8066]

1:41 the fact that all of these time fluctuations have to do with Ahsa can not be mere coincidence. It is statistically improbable. Ahsa may have been the one to cause them because she wanted to.

[@DeusExAngelo]

Interesting how Ahsa's powers and origins actually reveals more about the nature of the Worm Gods too. Even as corrupted Fundamental Leviathans, they still had their psychic powers, ability to form paracasual bonds with other creatures, and instrinsic access to the Ascendant Realm. So it's no wonder why The Witness desired them as assets and used them in the creation of The Hive. It also sheds Light on why powerful Hive Gods could make their own Throne Worlds or Oryx made his Dreadnought with pieces of Akka. Nokris also learned Necromancy from Xol, so that must also be a power of Darkness as well. Maybe one he only shared with Oryx's estranged son?

[@Krisars]

​@@Mrs.Garrison69The average Destiny player doesn't even read lorebooks and lore tabs. So its not like their opinions should any water

[@KermitOfWar]

So, are the Hive worms paracasual beings & just as ancient as the Traveler/Winnower? Or were they simply a creation of Rulk & The Witness? But then again, how does Hive magic even work? Is SoulFire a darkness element? This shite is confusing lads.

[@DeusExAngelo]

@@Mrs.Garrison69 Destiny is no stranger to genuinr retcons (I can name a few off the top of my head), but I do agree folks are going way to far in making calls in what is a retcon and what might've been a planned twist or elaborating on a character's incomplete understanding of something. I understand a lot of it stems from Lightfall's major story fumbles, but I don't think everything now is a retcon. I mean no offense to Myelin, but I think his analysis of what constituted a retcon was rather shallow. He equated a "perspective = "untrue" which as a storyteller and lore buff myself I found rather frustrating. Perspective in this case means that characters are working with a limited amount of information and trying to reasonably/interpret fill in the gaps. That doesn’t mean they are 100% incorrect or vice versa. It means take them with a grain of salt and with the context they are in.

[@dravendarkplays9607]

​@@DeusExAngelolike how the book of sorrows tell you to not believe them

[@DeusExAngelo]

@@KermitOfWar Well the answer to your question isn't that simple. The Worm Gods and worm larvae born from them were fashioned from the Witnesses corruption of some of the proto-worm/Fundamental Leviathan. Whom the survivors of civil war were subjugated and retrieved by Rhulk at the command of The Witness in order to create The Hive. The Fundamental Leviathans/proto-Worms origin is still a mystery. They are extraordinarily ancient and inherently paracausal though.

[@romulanphantom3376]

So Sloan is basically Destiny's version of the Doom Slayer. Arguably though Saint-14 also fits that theme.

[@melkermagnusson5070]

The stories of Asher and Sloane are great. Looking forward to Brother Vances return!

[@noahmoran7605]

Who?

[@hellaboveme500]

Who ?

[@melkermagnusson5070]

Funny!😄

[@Changingtesting]

Who?

[@sleeper6000]

I really hope Sloane doesn't get x'ed off like Amanda in a few seasons, I feel like she has had some really great character development- which has been one of the better parts of this season. Seeing her get fleshed out into a complex character with deep regrets alongside (literal and metaphorical) scars from her time on Titan, before/ after its re-emergence is something that could be leveraged especially closer to final shape and our guardian inevitably following The Witness.

[@steelgriffin7716]

This is going to sound like a nonsequitur beyond my general agreement with your sentiment, but Sloane is a Titan among Titans on Titan.

[@garrettviewegh9028]

It’s also going to be interesting seeing how she adjusts, and interacts, with the factions of the Coalition. She’s a veteran. A Guardian that had the same outlook as many other lights years ago: the light and darkness being binary, humanity being the only ones that could/should fight against the Witness alone, a contempt for Fallen, and Cabal. She no doubt will have much time to accept House Light, Caital’s Ascendency, and other revelations, and will need time to do so. Saladin, Saint, Osiris, Nimbus, and a few others, more or less act as mediators between their respective factions, handling negotiations between respective alliances within the Coalition. Hopefully, Sloan will come to understand and accept each facet of the Coalition. If an old, stubborn, battle-hardened wolf like Saladin can accept new allies and burry old grudges, so can she.

[@reamoinmcdonachadh9519]

So Sloane has a bond with Ahsa, the same but different to that bond between Worm and Hive. and Sloane survived a direct confrontation with Xivu Arath, but only just. Well, well.

[@Blindluck92]

I know that Ahsa was there to save Sloane, but Síocháin was ready to just up and fight the Leviathan *twice* without hesitation. Bigger balls than the Traveler on that Ghost.

[@Starfloofle]

Sloane's ghost just REALLY makes me wish SO MUCH MORE that we could load *our* ghost up with a little arsenal of his own. And clearly I'm not alone because when I said something similar on the reddit some years back it became my most upvoted comment of my entire lifetime LOL WE WANT BATTLEGHOST, BUNGIE, GIVE IT TO US

[@garrettviewegh9028]

It’s pretty scary to imagine what Sloan had endured on a Titan overrun with darkness, Taken, Hive, and Warthborn. In a strange way, Sloan’s situation of survival on Titan before it had returned to Sol, reminds me of the final mission of Halo Reach, where Noble 6’s only objective, is to survive. While a Guardian has more power, endurance, and longevity than a Spartan, no warrior can outlast an onslaught of seemingly endless enemies alone.

[@Changingtesting]

Just look at the guardian from dead man’s tale. Insanity ensues eventually…

[@FabioOsorio619]

I wish they would make this back story more of a focus, it’s great that she is back and everything, but like a recount of her experience, in depth. I would pay for that as extra content

[@jhanwakefield]

Biff No one explains the lore like you thanks my friend

[@backslash153]

"If you can't take it when it hits you, you go out and hit it before it gets started." How very Firebreak Order of you, Sloane, you've always been its greatest member.

[@benhuckaby]

Now that we have a better understanding of the Witness, and the Darkness with the Veil, would it be possible to revisit the power to Take? It feels we now have more of the pieces to explain it.

[@Cepv34]

These videos are awesome thank you lore king

[@DarkDisc1]

You spelt "daddy" wrong lmao

[@lasagnaboy4728]

Bungie write something cool like variks growing kell sized, and Sloane getting a cool power suit, then realise they will have to model that so change it so they're back to normal

[@Loderyod]

Certified video game development moment

[@monstracke]

23:04 it mentions that Ahsa bonded during the golden age, wonder if there is more about this, like whom she bonded with in titan

[@justcallmeness]

THIS. Who was the mysterious bond? Was it the scientist Sloane saw in the tear in spacetime?

[@nickgrout2502]

Maybe it was the scientist that Rasputin shot down during the evacuation?

[@B34RProductions]

What’s really important to note is even though both Sloan and asha have suffered through their suffering and pain has come something good, which directly what witness believes, the witness believes that existence is suffering but what it lacks is the wisdom and understanding to know that suffering can be used for something good. The witness lacks wisdom to understand this and through its own selfish and naïve reasoning believes “nothing” will save us all.

[@Ablesoir]

This story is one of my favorite destiny Stories

[@txnorseviking7764]

So Asha was the thing we saw towards the beginning of destiny 2 that we could see swimming when we were in the arcology under the ocean

[@ronin9380]

Thanks for the great work....and explanation.

[@strange_corn2217]

So she is one of few humans who have meet xivu and lived?

[@MrSchnabitz]

Síocháin (Peace in Irish) is pronounced as She-O-Khan. As an Irish lad, it hurts my soul each time he says it 😅

[@SelecaoOfMidas]

A true bond, forged by fire within the methane ocean. The payoff for this could be big, especially since we have to strike a deal with Immaru to revive Savathûn just to give chase after the Witness. Much like having some other tales recommended for some animated videos, this tale could be one of its own as well.

[@jinx3773]

This was such a joy to listen to.

[@AdrianFishler]

This story is so badass

[@actualnacho612]

Alright byf here's my question, if the darkness controls consciousness, how is the traveller able to bestow it to ghosts?

[@bermudist]

There was a supposed leak a few weeks back that sorta answered this. There’s also some lore that might hint at this, but this leak claimed it with more confidence. May not be true but I’ll tag it anyways as SPOILERS Ghosts are the freed souls of the people who make up The Witness. Whether it’s defection or some meddling via the Traveler’s power for them to remove themselves from the Witness, remains to be seen. Possibility that some Guardians are also formerly people who were The Witness. So the consciousness already “existed” it was just transfigured from the Witness the the Ghosts’ shell. Somehow. Maybe lol

[@geekywolf2648]

so the hive have worms bound to them by hunger and war and hate, whereas Sloan and Ahsa have a bond formed of something akin to familial love, Im really curious how that would work in terms of "feeding" Ahsa, if that is even a thing. also Ahsa reminds me of a really happy Labrador puppy who just got a new human, she is cute in a way lol

[@arceus1008]

im starting to feel that the taking of the 4 planets has some sort of link to the witness. not sure if this has been said before, but mars was taken to find specific data about the veil, and possibly the enclave on mars, which involves memories n all that, accessing deepsight. it *may* be possible that titan was taken because asa was there. if this *is* linked to certain things that the witness is interested in, id really be interested to see why mercury and io were taken (io probably for the tree of silver wings, but we do also have the pyramidion, so unless theres more to io than just that, id be interested to see)

[@Changingtesting]

I hope ahsa doesn’t get written out, I feel like this should be a reoccurring character because their importance in term of power

[@vV_Viggo]

It’s likely that Ahsa and Savathun might know each other from fighting Nezarec during the Collapse.

[@justcallmeness]

So I'm thinking, with the Veil Containment log this week... On second thought, that may be close to spoilers. I'll wait for a video on it! I'm full of speculation, and I'm quite excited.

[@nickm2890]

Got a new Byf video, while waiting for a Datto stream, between work calls. Does it get better than this?

[@LuigisPikachu]

Much better, if you don't watch datto

[@TheLegendaryTashy]

Wait. So is Sloane essentially a Hive God Guardian now? Since she bonded with a Worm, albeit a "good" one

[@SelecaoOfMidas]

No, Ahsa is a proto-worm (as in: no deal with the Witness via Rhulk, no adherence to the Sword Logic). It seems like her species has had the ability to form such bonds, with some differences in the method. The only thing Ahsa is asking for in return is companionship and protection for passing on her knowledge... at least for now.

[@chaotixthefox]

​@@SelecaoOfMidasThe transformation into Worm god predates Rhulk's recruitment, as they already did the whole psychic-influence-to-make-you-think-they're-gods thing, and had their worm titles. Also there were already only the 7+The Leviathan guarding when Rhulk came. And Rhulk didn't introduce them to the Sword Logic or have much discussion at all, he just forced their servitude.

[@Emberbro]

Is it possible that Ahsa is /the/ Leviathan referred to in the lore that attempted to intercept the Krill siblings?

[@nickgrout2502]

Possible, but probably not. It seems like Assa fled while the Worms were busy eating each other.

[@Emberbro]

@@nickgrout2502 true, just trying to understand why she has special knowledge of Savathun, because that probably happened long before the Krill boarded the needle.

[@chaotixthefox]

​@@nickgrout2502The Leviathan was killed by the Hive+Worm gods during the final battle against the Ammonite and its corpse devoured by the Worm gods.

[@MustyRacoonDelta6]

For the first time watching your videos I finished the video feeling angry and resentful... I was playing destiny while watching and I don't know many other games that can have me feeling worse playing them AND listening to that games specific lore as opposed to just listening to that games lore.

[@MrMusicfan28]

I need me a ride and die like Síocháin. Girl was ready to gut an entire leviathan for Sloane 😭

[@jme681000]

born 4 greatness you are. Thank you

[@latelotus]

Ayo Bungie! Lemme get a gangsta ghost like that.

[@Yashieyama]

5:09 thats crucible in a nutshell 💀💀💀

[@N8LP216]

I really wish the gameplay content was as interesting as the lore.

[@vanic8129]

Amazing 🤩

[@joseangelherrera499]

What ornament is that on the Monte Carlo?

[@bermudist]

Dreaming clarity ornament featured in the eververse store last week.

[@joseangelherrera499]

@@bermudist Thanks for the reply. I have that ornament. It's makes it look like a Deep Stone Crypt weapon, but why does it have a taken effect? Or am I being dumb? I haven't played all season.

[@monstracke]

@@joseangelherrera499 not a taken effect, i think is the fx of being arc amplified

[@joseangelherrera499]

@@monstracke Gotcha. Thanks

[@barthotymous]

couldn't Sloane's ghost just have waited to resurrect her until it found resources? and if she came under attack, obviously. Or is that considered too dangerous because her ghost could be taken out in one shot whereas if Sloane was alive, maybe they'd target her first?

[@Dnyn]

Is the footage sped up or are you just moving that fast jeez. I haven't played in years bcz my ex broke my Xbox and I haven't bought a new one. I've tried buying and getting back into it twice but end up returning the console for the money I was down bad. So I can't get back into it even if I play at my friends, it just doesn't Interest me anymore. But I still keep up with the lore. Spent all these years keeping up with it I'll atleast continue to do that

[@MikeAndros0]

No, that's normal gameplay footage. Things are a lot more faster paced.

[@xroadrage9919]

Does MyNameIsByf still have a discord server?

[@JamesMaloney-pd3mn]

Make a lore video on the European air zone

[@CatS2TailS]

Whoop whoop! First two minutes squad and comment number five! Luv yah Byf

[@lazzy2400]

Is there anything that explains how she got to titan?

[@RiotRiverman]

Sloane or Ahsa?

[@justinchamberlin4195]

I mean, Sloane had basically been there since the events of vanilla D2, and the bit from the ghost shell lore about crashing through the frozen shell of Titan to the ocean beneath suggests Ahsa traveled at least from orbit to the deep the old-fashioned way. I don't think "regular" Fundament Worms can straight-up travel in space at FTL speeds, so Ahsa either was able to get a ship of some kind or, more likely, skated through the Ascendant Plane to look for a compatible environment in meatspace where she could escape the rise of the Hive. The real question is just how long she was living on Titan...she watched the rise of humanity's Golden Age, so it stands to reason she beat even the Traveler to the Sol system. But was it by decades, centuries, or millennia? She left Fundament billions of years previous, but how much of that time was spent traveling and how much was spent on Titan? And what were the bonds formed and broken during the Golden Age and the Collapse, respectively? It doesn't sound like she made a lot of progress communicating with the arcology's bio team, maybe she got in touch with Savathûn? Maya Sundaresh? Someone else?

[@JaimieWFYT]

Guardians actually need to eat?

[@riverwisp]

Drifter talks about continuously starving to death and his ghost bringing him back to life each time.

[@Kaptain13Gonzo]

@@riverwisp There was that and one other in D1 early on. A long and painful 'undeath'. Being a guardian isn't only blowing sh!t up and opening loot boxes. There are loooooog periods of - just existence. Look at Zavala ...

[@dannycarey5244]

Can we get analysis of the lore anymore, or is it just going to be reading lore entries moving forward?

[@charlottesanford3895]

Sloane came back with mcdonalds sprite disease and a big girlfriend

[@seanmurphy7845]

Oh thank god, the last time I should have to hear Síocháin's pronunciation being butchered. She-uhk-awn. Too late now but gotta keep up tradition at this point.

[@cornelioandyourcat4709]

Let no AI voice ever take over your vids bro.

[@Danklukain4100]

Hey BYF Can u do a Video Theory of that new Sub-Class Leak…is it dreams and nightmares like Osiris said in that cutscene…Is it Resonence/Luster

[@thatonepsycho5157]

Byf doesn't touch leaks. It's part of his policy.

[@Danklukain4100]

@@thatonepsycho5157 well u make a video on it and I’ll watch how u break it down👍🏽

[@Ahawaiiankoa]

First

[@burrito6780]

Early

[@austinpleasants6338]

Remember seeing that giant in D1