Destiny 2 - The Curse of Osiris: The Review

Destiny 2 disappointed me, but I was willing to stick with it because I had faith that Bungie would take the necessary steps to improve the game. But upon seeing how lazy this DLC is, and how unworthy it is of our time, I just felt foolish. I'm out.
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[@raine8400]

this video is longer than the campaign of curse of osiris

[@HeartlessAlchemyst]

ROASTED

[@cartr1523]

Rekt

[@ellmahar8108]

Theres your 400th

[@MikeJones-xg2bm]

they might as well just start making dlcs for destiny 1 and forget this ever happened

[@crashTestGuru]

Mike Jones I would support this. I would go straight back. Most of us would, I believe

[@ltsam5815]

What about us PC gamers. Even if they did that we got the shortest end of this stick.

[@CHICOXV3]

100! Im thinking about going back most ppl i know already have... this is a bigger dissapointment than mass effect andromeda and even the divisions 1.8 is a better update and its FREE! Now thats saying something... what is up with gaming this year?

[@Taurusus]

We might as well be playing a Full Conversion D1 xpac as it is. There really wasn't enough added to D2 to make it worthy of an iteration in the first place.

[@ReikoAyumiVT]

Mike Jones the way D2 is... seems like a extra dlc on a new dlc

[@joxaX1]

This video is longer than the DLC itself.

[@vankrelian]

And also more entertaining.

[@truth2527]

Fans: Its Over Bungie I have the High Ground Bungie:You underestimate my power

[@echeaz]

Annnnnnd then Bungie get's it's legs and arms chopped off not to mention hell-degree burns over what's left. lol

[@RellDefinition]

We all know what happens next

[@solid5502]

Warframe: Don't try it.

[@tonyl9636]

Underrated comment. kudos to you sir

[@ratedm4monke499]

How to decrease difficulty: give them the high ground. Obi Wan Kenobi approved.

[@LyGon-pw5mt]

Dawson Sihavong You underestimated my power!

[@ratedm4monke499]

NS120121 Fanbase: Don’t try it Bungie! Bungie: *Jumps the gun* Destiny 2! Fanbase: *insert lightsaber/review.jpg here* -Bungie spliced- You were the chosen one! You were supposed to change gaming, not join the trends!

[@LyGon-pw5mt]

Dawson Sihavong Oh shit, Bungie is going to come back as a branch of EA now! What should we call it? In the Sith's case it's the Darths, so in EA's case, idk.

[@wesosdequeso8360]

They are hiring lootbox system designers instead of actual writers or game developers. That's Destiny 2

[@relaxingspot2024]

And that's because of the fanboys who continue to pay for that shit. Why would they even try in working adding new content, if shit sells?

[@laither3388]

I’m a veteran destiny player and I regret buying this game for $100.

[@ozzyboy6438]

Laith Gharsalawe same dude, saaammmeeee

[@mariataveras5939]

The amaizing friends I've met all the great moments 100 to me was worth that

[@AverageGamerXP]

and that is why i don't get Delxue Editions Or Collecters Editoins i get Standard Editions so i can decide what dlc i like or don't like

[@Firepowerx31]

Or you could just not buy a shit game........

[@THANE_MITHRA]

did you not learn anything from destiny ?

[@LaymenGaming]

If you want to hear SkillUp drunk. Slow this video down to 0.5x.

[@blankmage7556]

Laymen Gaming If you want to hear Laymen Gaming drunk... go watch some of their videos.

[@Ninja7546]

Blank Mage savage... just savage.

[@Ninja7546]

Laymen Gaming the fact you came back to this a week ago... I'd be a betting man to say yous are hungry for D2 news? Keep trawling reddit!

[@YeetThyBaby]

Hahahaha oath

[@technoir2216]

Hey sounds totally trashed.

[@rezachoudhury823]

I'm just surprised that Destiny 2 got a nomination for "best ongoing game" somehow.

[@PersonWMA]

Because the Game Awards is just a series of advertisements. Guess who buys advertising.

[@RG-iv2do]

PersonWMA I was suprised on how many ads were on the awards

[@pracitus]

reza choudhury money $$$

[@Kortezxero]

That's what I said man. How the fuck did Warframe not win that. A game that started out pure shit, and worked and evolved into a game that is just a blast to play years and years later. Hell the game is still changing constantly. And Destiny 2 being nominated was just down right laughable to me.

[@astrocyborg]

salty about boreframe not getting anything i see

[@boggart273]

R.I.P. Destiny 2 2017-2017.

[@AvelierPlays]

B0rosh you mean Destiny 1.5

[@ugandanknuckles2334]

Press f to pay respect

[@camytheofficial]

Rip destiny 2014-2017

[@Siegram999]

U mean Destiny 0.5 cause its a degrade

[@Excalibur-je5pk]

DH Maximus you mean 2014 to 2014 bc destiny died y1

[@FriedFx]

I uninstalled Destiny 2 and went to Warframe. I saw a gun I wanted in the warframe market, bought the blue print, farmed the ingredients, and boom! crafted it and now enjoying it. No loot box slot machine.

[@y2kplus9]

Precisely. Welcome home, Tenno.

[@chrisrichardson1600]

CLEM!!

[@notlarry7985]

Ingredients... Latron topped with a mushroom sauce

[@kinjunsee9766]

MyNamesNotLarry Hahaha

[@drahkana7829]

That was basically me. I was hardcore on Destiny during my first warframe experience, and what got me into the game was the sybaris. The moment I saw that gun I was in love.

[@Sekirei45]

when i went to return my destiny 2, there were several shelves of pre-owned destiny 2's lol

[@Balthazar3]

God, this is the truest review I have ever had the disheartened joy of watching.

[@blackxfoxx9815]

Drew 38 every company has its pros and cons

[@CriticalNobody]

Good thing I saw Skill Up's video about Warframe a week ago and now have 40 hours of playtime in it. No reason to go back to Destiny 2 now

[@PlsDontReadThis123]

Critical Nobody ive put in like 300+ hours in the last month, i love warframe

[@teaque_huntress416]

I've put in 900+ hours in around a year ^_^ Warframe is amazing

[@tupapalote23]

I put over 600 hours on warframe. And I moved from ps4 to PC and they don't want to transfer my file. 😔😭😭😢😢😭😭

[@Xonthos]

Welcome to our family, fellow Tenno. I do hope you enjoy your stay.

[@sterlingfelker6295]

I haven't played Destiny since starting Warframe. Thanks for the Review SkillUp

[@richard9600]

You know the truth now Tenno

[@ritsus3188]

im not a grineer

[@karmicbacklash]

CALEB CUYLER Anthem is the best thing that ever happened to Destiny 2 which is the best thing that ever happened to Warframe...

[@JPOG7TV]

White Wolfy your comment has aged so fucking poorly

[@willdenoble1898]

Pffft this game is 100x better than grindframe

[@theguywhowentthere3346]

@@willdenoble1898 - suuure

[@jettc3167]

He was, in fact, not done with destiny 2

[@Tyrodin]

This 'expansion' is a joke. This is not an expansion, this is a content patch with a pricetag. I'm a new fan to the Destiny universe and I'm hoping that a swift kick up the arse, combined with a reality check will finally make Bungie aware that they're headed further and further away from the post-Taken King game quality. Loved the review Ralph :)

[@chayce3205]

Tyrodin the post taken king era was simply luck, after numerous patches, events, expansions, etc the game was finally "good" it wasn't exactly skill or anything, just bungie throwing a bunch of shit at the wall hoping something sticks, rise of iron proved this by being mediocre.

[@tiagocbraga]

content patch? osiris is joke content, its even worse than the fallen dlc in d1

[@harryrosson6639]

As much as I want to be a kiss-ass I have realised that Bungie is going in a very bad direction and I am hoping for a Taken King- sized expansion to save the day. This game, as much as I hate to say it, is going downhill.

[@Nitious]

I'm sorry to disappoint you, but that's what most loyal players have been hoping since D1 and now the sequel is even worse. Do yourself a favor and just quit before you waste any more money in hope that the next DLC will fix everything, and when it disappoints again to just hope for the next one.

[@philipslattery2883]

Tyrodin I gave up after the last faction wars.... lazy, boring game making, the whole game is pointless.

[@jcdeala4024]

Well this DLC really is a curse.

[@ethansummer8680]

It's crazy that a good amount of this stuff is still relevant today and it's been 2.5 years.

[@Ali-qo8xk]

it is still relevant today

[@donttouchmysoda6178]

@@Ali-qo8xk nahhhhhh

[@LOLkatz-jq9dg]

Although it pains me to say this, I cant help but agree. I was not a year 1 destiny player. Heck, I wasn’t even year 2. I bought the collection in January. But I played it. And played it. I became obsessed with the game. After maxing out 2 characters and moving on to my third, I still wasn’t bored and was loving it. There was just something that kept me coming back. And when I learned about destiny 2 and how I could share the experience of a new destiny with everyone, I was overjoyed. But now, sitting here, I find it painful to even get on. Sometimes, if none of my friends are playing, I won’t even get on. The game that had once inspired me and gave an escape to another world is now nothing more than a bland money pit that just keeps digging itself into a deeper hole. I’ve tried to hang on. Out of all my friends, I’m the only one who still played because I had hope. Hope in a developer that had delivered me the greatest gaming experience in my life, with memories that I will cherish forever. Hope that this game could rise from the ashes and blow everyone away. And everyone was blown away. No one could believe it when bungie handed us back our hope, beaten and betrayed with a $20 price tag and the title, “The Curse of Osiris”.

[@cancersfinalform299]

That clip of the old Bungie made me really sad. That's who Bungie used to be. Amazing game developers who set the standard and stage for first person shooters. Now Bungie has been replaced by Activision lackeys who are borderline IRS agents. Most if not all of the original Bungie members who made Halo what it was have left. Now Bungie is a just a rotting corpse.

[@bradpierstorff1367]

Cancer's Final Form it made me really sad too :(

[@beastmode-ef9hk]

I'm still pissed i spent money on this game

[@pryt86]

beastmode32 Me too. I can't believe after destiny 1 i bought 2. Stopped playing a week after it came out. And will never go back, or give bungie another dime.

[@szethtoxicco1710]

There's a saying. 'Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me'. No one to blame but yourselves.

[@hamzahussain7794]

Me too. I have never been so angry at myself before in my life

[@TaigaNine]

Selling the game on eBay. #ZeroBids

[@CagedPhoenixThe1st]

I didn't have paper to spend at the time. I would have got it to but after hearing all the negative news about it, I probably would have put it down quicker than the first one.

[@demongrenade2748]

I think people need to remember that the majority of the lead developers at bungie who made the halo series no longer work at bungie. The Talent behind one of the greatest shooters ever made hasn't been at bungie for a quite awhile now. This isn't a company thats worth your time now.

[@alohamark3025]

And that is the conundrum faced by every gaming studio, sooner or later. Software developers write in unique styles. They put together programs with hundreds of branches, that have to execute in real time. The people at Bungie now are still learning what the previous group of programmers did. Give 'em a few more years, and who knows? Maybe they can figure out the arcane ways of the past ... or, they could be so befuddled, that they never fully learn the system. Right now, I call this a maintenance release off of Destiny 1. Be happy the program does not crash or go into an infinite loop. I have seen worse disasters in my experience. I'm not saying that you or anyone else should be patient. But, Skillup is not a coder. Those who do not understand software do not realize that this is all part of the PROCESS.

[@fishworshipper]

These aren’t coding issues at all, though. Having any knowledge of coding isn’t necessary or even helpful for contextualizing these issues. The problem is in the principles and priorities that were taken during development - loot boxes took a higher priority than basic, quality game design.

[@meru8348]

Play warframe I wouldn't worry about the warframe devs going greedy cuz a year ago when animal allies came out they added a rolling system for money and they saw that they it was being used to much so they took it out made the allies farmable and gave refunds removing the gambling machine within 3 days and then said the reason they removed this slot machine that was making them a lot of money was that and I quote "They didn't want to make money That Way!" If that isn't an insensitive to play idk what is

[@aidanwj]

People who defend these business practices are solely responsible for why gaming is such a shit show in the first place

[@cookytrix]

exactly. sucking a companies dick usually gives them ego problems.

[@reoden7546]

I wouldn't agree they are "solely" responsible, the devs and publishers that keep quite willfully testing the limits of what amount of BS they can get away with have their fair share of blame in my view. But yes the relentless fanboys do have their blame also.

[@TawkohFoReal]

Bungie broke me, I had so much faith, I had put money in this, and I thought I would never say this, but I quit Destiny 2, I am out, peace.

[@TawkohFoReal]

just wish this game would stop popping up in my recommended videos, sick of it.

[@f5prototype748]

Perseus One yeah we put way too much faith in bungie and we all got fucked. Il l’admit i spent 100 fucking bucks into this game and I regret it so much

[@TawkohFoReal]

Price tags

[@ferasnj5769]

try warframe and imagine the money u payed on d2 was payed for a better version of d2 that is free to play on steam.

[@TawkohFoReal]

im playing warframe now, its great.

[@Orcen222]

"We have so much story I dont have time to tell you how much story we have" - Destiny 2 "locking content you already paid for behind a pay wall with DLC? We did that in Destiny already, you guys should be used to it by now" - Bungie

[@Sedlan18]

Orcen222 "Even I don't have time to explain why I don't have time to explain" That stupid quote from destiny sums up Bungie's whole attitude. They don't need to Justify their content as long as they keep giving their fans fake expectations about "future improvement" and keep buying their crap.

[@BYUBOY33]

They keep doing this shit but y'all keep running back to them and giving them your money. If you are really done then be done for real. It took me a month to be done.....took you all this time? How?

[@adityakumar-qq7si]

They will never be done cause negativity makes much better video topic and most gamers are just hypocrite who love pretending to be mighty and high while they are just a bunch of weak will people who love hiding from confrontation and complaining from their comfort.

[@rockstarskolas]

*narrator voice*: *”He was not done with Destiny 2”*

[@Lazarus_]

Bungie needs the gaming version of Gordon Ramsey to come into their studio.

[@deadensolo2347]

Stephen dude great comment. Agree completely.

[@JuanPerez-ff6ih]

THIS GAME IS RAW

[@gabrielbitar7757]

Angry joe would be perfect

[@soarerska]

Stephen definitely that would be the best thing that could happen to them

[@Tuffadandem]

Stephen I agree with you sir!

[@jordangreen7567]

IT'S OVER DESTINY I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND!!!!

[@Sirgreen57]

You underestimate my powe- *dies*

[@bran10657]

It was said you would destroy the Bad Games not join them!

[@holyflame2]

You were like a brother to me Destiny... I loved you!...

[@alovesaandn]

Holyflame bungee "I hate you"

[@libertyprimus756]

You where the chosen one you where supposed to destroy ea not join them

[@cosmosofinfinity]

Thumbnail of this and IHE's video: "I'm done with Destiny 2" *Both proceed to review Forsaken*

[@reoden7546]

And probably both were glad they did. lol

[@MRNOLOOTBOX]

#REMOVEEVERVERSE

[@chrisrichardson1600]

But how will Bungie make any money!?! ;) haha

[@thenamesfable8257]

As a developer when you turn a diehard angelic fanbase(myself over 2000+ hours in this franchise) into a resentful and disappointment fueled hate mob with a "sequel" and then continue to move back wards despite 4 years worth of chances... You can't honestly look me in the eyes and say "I give a fuck"

[@slaughterin-allbbnb8766]

FightNight D2 is literally nothing more than Bungie saying “ we give zero fucks about our game or community “ , “ but please throw as much undeserved money at us as possible please “

[@seandlax9]

Destiny has ALWAYS had one of the whiniest, knee-jerk, and entitled fan bases in gaming. It's no mystery why Bungie doesn't really listen to it. Destiny is going nowhere. People will whine and bitch until the next major expansion, all will be peachy again, and all these streamers claiming to "be done" will return in droves like nothing happened.

[@Lathander81]

I agree Sean...so much complaining for all these years. If you are really disappointed then just stop playing it. Pour your time into a game that actually gives a fuck about its player base. Dont complain then go buy the game...its quite silly.

[@y2kplus9]

Well said Sean M and Lathander81. The game won't die because people keep going back to it like fucking drug addicts...

[@DSRJoker]

A lore rant for a moment if I might: I think it's becoming more and more clear, that the bulk of the storytelling in Destiny 1, via the lore, was, if not outright created by Joseph Staten, overseen by him. Given that the Dreadnought was to appear in Destiny 1 vanilla then its safe to assume that a large portion of the lore explaining the hive, and Oryx, was also created prior to the reboot. That important because there's a noticeable drop in quality of the Rise of Iron Lore. It goes from large mind-blowing concepts to small interpersonal interactions. There's also a lot of inconsistencies within the RoI lore, I always attributed this to the quick turn around on the project. Now it seems that whoever is in charge of writing is either incompetent, or they just don't care. Look at Brother Vance, A guy who was this Blind Soothsayer, who like Eris seems to have lost his Ghost and his eyesight. He now served as an emissary to the Queen for Osiris, and Hosted the Trials of Osiris. Now we get someone who is, what the adoring fan from oblivion, and a lore entry that reads so painfully like it’s a last minute retcon. And you know where you find that lore entry? On the Machina Dei 4… As if to COMPLETELY miss the point of having a Strangers Rifle like weapon return to Destiny. There’s only 2 technically 3 places that model has ever been used. The Stranger Rifle and No Time To Explain, (the Fate of All Fools was never released.) They don’t use this opportunity to expand on that lore, no they just use it to retcon Bother Vance’s status as a warlock. This is the textbook definition of missing the point. The quality of the lore integration into Destiny has been slipping ever further into; Karen-Only-3-Million-Storm-Troopers-Traviss’s character assassination of Dr. Catherine Halsey from Halo, levels of bad. This is like Shaxx calling us Young Wolf and then Lord Saladin treating us like we’ve never seen one another before. This is like Osiris somehow reading the Book of Sorrow, but not knowing who we are. It ludicrously bad writing being perpetrated by someone who doesn’t understand the universe or doesn’t care.

[@MartyMacFry]

You know what the craziest/worst part of this is? This game has an honest to God writing staff. I think it's like 6 people. 6 people are paid probably decent wages to write B-movie level dialogue (we're not so different you and I) and to forget and mess up their own lore. IMO this is why gaming costs are blowing up, incompetent hiring bloat.

[@GrassH0pper55]

Darkside Royalty Lore When's your curse of Osiris review coming?

[@MajorasLullaby]

Darkside Royalty Lore bro what about the black triangles we saw at the end of d2? What is this? They don't even bother to go in depth with the lore.

[@Stealth-ve7nw]

Darkside Royalty Lore hey I know this guy . 👍🏽

[@AIZENTHEFILTHYCASUAL]

Joooookkkkeeerrr

[@The_Wailing_Doom]

New player here in 2022 watching all Skill Up's old Destiny 2 videos because he speaks highly of the game these days. The game is so good now. Bungie turned the ship around with the help of folks like Skill Up providing thoughtful constructive criticism.

[@anuragj8025]

Dude single handedly made me try Destiny 2 with his Season of chosen and Splicer reviews. Been playing the game ever since!

[@oggelicious2716]

I don't really understand, if you want beautiful space loot-shooter with near infinite grind and superb gameplay with probably the best community in the gaming world , then play Warframe. Why would you ever choose Destiny over Warframe?

[@Outplayedqt]

RNGesus, Holy Saint of RNG wow I never thought of it that way but that’s 100% how it feels to play both games. I guess gunplay matters a bit more because I can’t enjoy Warframe whatsoever anymore while I still log into D2 once in a while

[@w3ghe711]

I honestly think the gunplay is better in D2 Also the art direction and music are way better in D2 imo

[@shizukousapostle1stapostle710]

@@w3ghe711 melee is better in warframe, all the frames are unique with unique skills, weapons feel different from each other... And the main reason why I prefer WF over Destiny is the freedom and fluidity of movement that WF have

[@mrgeneralism]

Destiny’s world, systems, mechanics and overall design is intoxicating. Warframe often feels far too difficult to get into without an obvious example of what is so fun or great about it, but when I load up Destiny I get a completely different feel. I feel overwhelmed, but in a good way. I want to learn what to do, I want to grind, I want to further my progression meaningfully so that I can continue to earn guns that will shake up my play style and give me further reason to do harder content. Destiny is everything I’ve wanted from World of Warcraft for a long time. It is fun and entrapping myself into the grind in a way that I can’t enjoy in Warframe. Warframe is a game. Destiny is an experience.

[@DarkyBlondy]

MrGeneralism reverse your last sentence 😉

[@freerun1207]

Perhaps it’s time to hang our heads and realize destiny is just not worth it anymore.

[@ijustwantmyphonecall6947]

Adam Deschaine Lmao, I realized Destiny wasn't worth it anymore when I played that trash ass beta. I told people time and time again this game would just be casualized trash with nothing near the potential the first game had. I told people Bungie was not going to listen to the community and I told them they would CONTINUE with these shitty buisness practices. What did I get in response? Crucified by the Destiny community, banned from streams, and told I was wrong. Well, glad to see you guys finally grew some damn brain cells.

[@The_Witnesss]

I just want my phone call I feel ya bud these Fanboys are like talking to bunch of mindless sheep. Tbh I stopped playing destiny after the the house of wolves in the first game. I've lost interest of grinding and I didn't want to do the taken king and still have no interest. This game is a job that waste your time and money and for what. The game is gonna die out with the next year and not matter like the first one.

[@Captdrax]

Adam Deschaine or ripe off of halo gay from day 1 just stupid people liked it

[@frankieb9444]

Loving the food analogies, the one I use for the uninitiated is: You order a $30 meal and they take the baked potato from your plate halfway through your meal then tell you that you need to pay $10 more dollars to get it back.

[@saber-jocky3436]

$15 if you want butter, sour cream, and chives.

[@sinocboy]

15 more for extra bacon or chill

[@imahappy946]

Wait.... WHO"S taking my potato??? Show me an I'll...

[@imahappy946]

Hi Skill up... well here I am three months later... after what, after I watched your Warframe vid and gave it a try. I struggled at first but was enticed back to Warframe a couple times... Now 330 hours in, I went back to D2 for the DLC... and it IS SHIIIIITT!!! Absolutely boring AF!! My mates are kinda pissed at me, and give me shit for the 200 beans I've dropped on WF so far, but you know what??? IDC. Warframe keeps giving. Even if It doesnt look as good - My analogy is this... Destiny 2 is that really good looking girl that stirs your pants up something crazy, but after living with her for a couple months you start to... think lol. Warframe is the girl that might not look AS good, but is real pretty in her own right... and most important of all, you can ACTUALLY HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HER. So, yep. Another convert. D2 is piss boring jump to box to box shit enemy shooter.... Warframe... lol, go spend some time with her. She's a bit much at first, and she's not perfect, but as you get to know her, as oppossed to D2, you're gonna find some real depth. P.S. I jacked my wife's account to write this. Sneakshow - PS4

[@Ninja7546]

Ima Happy I actually like the graphics on Warframe, they have a really nice art style. Their assets are colourful and original. Plus they do update the engine.

[@Quole1234]

I disagree on the looks. I think WF looks better.

[@GilgameshD20]

Oh yes don't forget the higher frame rate that wf has on all platforms while d2 is still 30 fps on console and 60 fps on PC

[@lancehalo7256]

It’s strange to look back and see how far this game has come. From poor beginnings to a bright future. Ha, I’m amazed at how much this game has changed upon release. Beyond Light really was the next evolution, and it’s been an amazing game as of the last year. I’m glad that this game finally grew into its own, and thank god it has. Onto Witch Queen, and a bright future

[@mattwiper]

Still has its issues but it feels alot like D1 at this point which I think is great

[@po-fc9bn]

@@mattwiper it's been miles ahead of D1 since forsaken dropped

[@Dead8Head]

Oh how this aged well

[@darealmephiles]

Im Proud of you SkillUp....

[@lunebadru5997]

Yes. You and the others who left this shit community and game series deserve bettet

[@nofatigue1345]

What plagues Destiny is way deeper than loot and economy. The people behind this game are not in it to please they are in it for greed. Point blank period

[@lordfarquad8913]

Halofanboy912 it is dead

[@Alphenex]

Elder Maxson - until the next expansion like taken king where it’s another part of the original game and people buy back in, then that has its own season pass dlc which is terrible and people get locked out and upset again until another expansion you have to pay full price game for, but hey they include everything you already purchased so that makes it worth it. People like the first game will go back because of these big expansions and even buy the season passes to them, essentially destiny 1 sold you 1 game separated into 3 with 3 season passes added to them, all by pulling apart 1 game and 1 good season pass, and it worked people bought it so why wouldn’t they do it again and add loot boxes to make more, hell if people were willing to accept those practices of course they would think it’s ok to continue to push the limits.

[@DeusVultDeus]

Feels good to say, in 2023 I’m loving what Destiny has become and I’m having really good fun and am addicted again.

[@dragosh3073]

yet another reason why Warframe is better

[@geraldgreen919]

I wish people would stop comparing these 2. I play Warframe a lot, & I love the game, but these are 2 different games. Simply put, Warframe is about being so overpowered that the only way to fail is be a scrub or get 1- shot due to shitty enemy scaling. Destiny is about fighting being on, more or less, equal ground with “space gods”. Not really the same thing as Warframe’s trash mobs you dispose of by the thousands. So at the end of the day it’s just preference. Do you prefer a simple FPS with shitty RNG, enemy AI & story? Play Destiny. If you prefer a complex 3rd person shooter with shitty RNG, enemy AI & enemy scaling, play Warframe.

[@dundergames1]

Gerald Green rng is pretty good in warframe and i say that, not because i have good luck (i don’t)

[@prime201]

bro just let the destiny fans have their time to mourn damn...

[@geraldgreen919]

I can agree with that somewhat. I think the RNG seems good because there are so many ways to get what you want & there really arent that many "bad" items in the game. I have bad luck in Warframe too, but the trade system helps a lot.

[@reggin867]

being better than shit doesn't make it good

[@stealthhunter6998]

I feel sorry for the artists just because they create all these cool things then the story team and Activision like to split the story to crap and dont try hard enough.

[@CrazyMonkeyProd]

TheDestroyer989 So true! There are so many great artists and coders working on this game. Their work is being disrespected by their employers at a constant rate.

[@danielgageandrews1671]

I agree! The artists, coders and composers do such a great job just to be brought down with the decisions of their employers!

[@TheBoomh]

Agreed. 99% of the time the DLC that's Bungie's pushing out now is content that's already finished (and should've been included in the base game).

[@sinotheawoken9812]

TheDestroyer989 the game looks cool but honestly the weapons and armor are nowhere near as destiny 1... they are mostly reskins and if not they are ugly

[@stealthhunter6998]

W97Sin0 / Mistergerman I agree with some of that statement especially when u look at the eater of worlds gear!

[@AGH69]

I think you summed it up best when you said "Fuck those guys".

[@Chris-ri9gc]

i bought the full game + season pass (collectors digital edition) r.i.p me. i really had faith in this game that it would improve. it shocks me how far back they can take their content. For instance, all the features that we had at the end of destiny 1, was stripped and given back to us in destiny 2 behind payed walls, which is a complete and utter poor attempt to keeping this game alive. I was a hardcore fan of destiny, had about 1500 hours clocked in, in the original game up until the end of year 3. We are now here in destiny 2, the first dlc. I am extremely disappointed in the way bungie as upheld the integrity and i will no longer support a greedy company that only ask for forgiveness when they themselves know that they have fucked up due to their attempt to in a sense, scam us for more money through a marketing attempt that was poorly made. i refuse to support a company that took my best intentions and utterly crushed them through monetisation and pay walls. Bungie, you have disappointed the community for the last time. No matter what you do past this point, the community will remember. I highly suggest that you refund all copies of the game (dlcs included) and to release the content for FREE as you promised so long ago (this was before even Destiny 1 was released, where they stated in an interview that all updates and content updates would be free. [no i am not going to look for an interview link, look for it yourself]). This was a complete and utter waste of time. How dare you look at your fan base as money wallets as if everybody who plays the game is able to fork out money. How dare you take away content and lock it behind a pay wall. I am extremely appalled by the way the company has upheld their stature. Myself, and others within the community will no longer stand for your bullshit.

[@ash_man_0416]

saym

[@andrewrchooven1996]

I don't blame you. Destiny 1 kept getting better and better so there was no reason not to trust Bungie with Destiny 2. I bought the digital deluxe... And never have I regretted spending money before on a game.

[@tosgys2097]

God you sound like a fucking bitch

[@maskoblackfyre]

Oh man, the memories. Remember "The Infinite Forest"? Remember "two primaries"? Remember "The farm"? Static rolls on legendary weapons? Horribly long ability cooldowns? 4v4 only? Damn, this game was such a huge disaster when it launched, but it's grown so much since. It only looks the same, but is in fact not even the same game anymore. Like, every decision Bungo made for D2, from the marketing, to the story and the sandbox was completely and utterly wrong. But looking at what the game was like in Y1 and comparing it to today (Season of the Seraph, less than 2 weeks away from Lightfall) I can't help but feel happy and proud of how my favorite -addiction - game of all time... yes I know, I love many a game franchise but none of them are or ever will be Destiny. That's just a fact... I'm just happy to see this game and franchise grow from what it initially released as to what it is today. Forsaken was the turning point, the big change Destiny 2 needed. But Shadowkeep was the real game changer, because it introduced seasons and champions.

[@chrisd7805]

I remember watching an old video of bungies where they said first we make the area fun, then we make it beautiful. I miss that Bungie.

[@comingtoterms2471]

Chris D there are different ppl at bungie not the same ones anynore

[@blazingblizzard-6894]

Now it’s beautiful, and fun is a luck based extra

[@DrakesdenChannel]

Kevin Hughes ILITALIANWOND3R It may be shiny, but it's damn bland.

[@ecap6776]

Respect to you SkillUp, you made a mistake in standing behind the game, but then you swallowed your pride, and put time and effort into making another great, well constructed video in admittance that you were wrong, and that you were moving on because gamers dont deserve what Bungie is trying to hand out.

[@corylyonsmusic]

Ecap D1 was actually great by year 2 and through year 3...D2 is an obvious cash grab in every aspect and that is why our hardcore crowd is all pissed...all content in this game is locked behind pay walls now and they wonder why we are all pissed and quitting

[@imaroughgempdx]

I only got to play D1 about 2 years in and it was just as vapid and boring to me as this release. In both cases I constantly feel like I am playing an MMO by myself.

[@StaySqueezy12]

He stood by Destiny 1 which most Destiny fans do but Destiny has been a disappointment. No one hates Destiny 2 more than Destiny fans believe me lol

[@mychaeldark1007]

As a day 1 year 1 D1 player, year 2 was absolute shit. I didn't even finish the Taken King before I dropped the game in the garbage. Bungie was screwing over the players even then, but few people wanted to see it.

[@bodopeters1835]

Maybe there is actual progress to be had with consumer conscience in the video game industry. Personally I am still skeptical as I am sure that SkillUp is much more analytical and self-aware than other Destiny (or nearly any AAA-title) players and therefore would rather correct his own attitude than engaging in the pathologically aggressive form of ignorance that Im sure everybody around here has experienced. Maybe Destiny 3 will be a flop if its ever released, but honestly people will instead just buy the next premium scam that had enough cash sunk into its marketing. Because apparently, looks, trends and eloquent slogans are what people want to base their consuming decisions on and not quality, depth or originality. That attitude is why it could even come to this and it is the katalyst for what AAA-games wil be in the future.

[@patocolunga373]

the potencial of the game is amazing but they just keep fucking up

[@VYxFrost]

y'can't even say that anymore because the potential for Destiny 1 was amazing, but we're just back to where it was but worse

[@kbarrettoh]

I wish I could get over how this first year made me feel. I still play this game and consistently look back at how dark this time was. I’m still not back on team Bungie the way I was in D1 years.

[@DarthDookieMan]

I don’t think that we are back to those dark time at all quite yet, but I’m curious on your thoughts on recent things.

[@richiemylove5825]

People who keep saying “but the dark below dlc was bad too! And they kept getting better after that!” Wtf does that even mean, they were supposed to learn from destiny 1, please stop using that as a point

[@brygulligan347]

Atleast TDB had a new raid

[@richiemylove5825]

Matt S i agree with you

[@richiemylove5825]

HanMan 77 the raid they added with coo is actually pretty fun, even tho its not a new new raid, still probably the best part of the expansion

[@morganlowder51]

At least the dark below was more fun...imo.

[@LadyBlaidd]

We got D1 after Dark Below. We loved it even with some problems. Met some amazing guardians one who became my best friend. And we could play with another friend even though he didnt have the DLC he still had end game to do. Strikes, Crucible and Nightfalls etc

[@dragonsoul_rjf8525]

I´m really sorry for all the Destiny fans. I hope you all find something new to do.

[@nahueltabarez8889]

DragonSoul _RJF im enjoying the game tho

[@ivanpabon2741]

Play warframe

[@asianguywithacamera]

I've been playing Warframe since August and loving it. It blows D2 out of the water in terms of customization in the weapon and mod system. The game does have a grind but the time investment makes you feel powerful, one important aspect that D2 definitely is lacking. Bungie doesn't want us to feel powerful. Orb generation is lower, ability refresh is slower, guns are for the most part dull and boring. I pre-purchased the DLC with the season pass and I haven't bothered playing CoO. There's no point, unfortunately.

[@closimac6121]

Anthem looks good

[@NcrXnbi]

+ProximaC Anthem = EA Mmmm.... No thanks.

[@ericherrero3212]

The halo 2 song at the end killed me

[@tommcc578]

I poured over 1000 hours into Destiny one without even playing rise of iron, it's a shame to see such a great franchise that gave me so many memories take such a greedy and dishonest path

[@narrowstone5363]

Tom Mccrory Its been on this path for a while now. Just now they arent bothering to hide it

[@jarodkestal6005]

the funny thing about panoptes he looks like a vex reskin of oryx

[@MelAncholynus]

Marcus Adamcik and the raid lair boss looks like a reskin of panoptes... Just this robotic, triangular floating ribcage

[@colinboxall9782]

Marcus Adamcik Because he is, they have the same animations 😂😂😂

[@mohammedjawahri5726]

Marcus Adamcik it's the same rig trust me,im not saying it's lazy or offensive ,but considering they barely just change the models at most ,we should be seeing TONS of panoptes level reskins every expansion

[@felixluna4184]

Marcus Adamcik a destiny fanboy " but ooh golly gee destiny a whole new game how is that even possible. O golly even tho d1 has d2 has same glitches no they would never be the same gamw

[@jeremiahtrotter1687]

All these visual comparisons are so dumb. None of these characters look like reskins of each other. He looks like a robotic scorpion.

[@TheDevilsAdvocate.]

Omg he’s seen the light finally.

[@Ovaltex]

I still come back and watch this review after years because it was so well done

[@KurzedMetal]

Dude, Warframe player here just trying to understand what D2 guys are going through with all the commotion around this franchise. What you describe in this video is unforgivable (whoever is responsible), you are taking the right decision leaving the game. You can always get back in a few years if they manage fix their mistakes. I started playing Warframe on the initial Open Beta, played like a month and then just quit because I didn't like some stuff (mostly the limited revives per day). Just to find an amazing evolved game which have been entertaining me in the last ~2.5 years. Hopefully Destiny can get their shit straight at some point.

[@lesterramos6468]

True. Except that unlike Warframe which is an ever-evolving game, the Destiny games are intended to be made into a franchise, it would seem. Assuming Bungie stays it's course, they are simply paying for content patches and updates. Which is a shame because I was interested in Destiny 2. I want to give it a chance despite the bad rep it got. But I took my time, saw the news and I really think that the game will not be worth my time, let alone my money.

[@adamplebeian5378]

More like Cost of Osiris amirite

[@namelessjuan4696]

Or Purse of Osiris

[@jbholtz9810]

Paywall of osiris

[@arsonistsavior]

Curse of dlc

[@TheTha411]

Whiterun Guard Haha this is what I was going to reply with lol

[@SrBananas]

I give Destiny 2, 1 Clem out of 10.

[@muzikxjunkie410]

AnbuIce woah, that's too generous imo. Clem deserves more respect than that

[@KrissDevil1]

But Clem is 11/10...

[@dallinlambert8004]

I saw Clem spammed at the Game Awards chat. But who is he?

[@RiskyWiskyHD]

he is one of the ingame npc that you get to play alongside. HE IS FKING AWESOME!!!. For those of you who play warframe. CLEM CARRIED ME IN A SURVIVAL GAME!!. All i did was activate life support from time to time while clem rekt enemies.

[@alextheloud]

I'm so proud that warframe has gotten so much publicity despite most video game news outlets ignoring it.. How did u get carried by klem lmao

[@drakelx]

Oh man Ralph I don’t know if you’d be reading this, but I really appreciate you adding those Vidoc clips at the start and end of the video, especially the ones at the end since I actually remember watching them. I’ve started being more apathetic about Destiny 2. Like I knew I was disappointed in the game, though it felt like something distant. But watching that last Vidoc clip made me remember myself watching the clip for the first time in 2013 and feeling so much awe and hype for what Bungie was going to do next after Halo. At first I just felt nostalgic and happy to remember the Vidoc. But at the same time it made me realise just how far Bungie has fallen. That Vidoc presented so much ambition and hope for what Destiny would become and how different it would be. That’s a far cry from the Bungie today allegedly saying that they can’t keep up with the pace of making content for D2. My goodness has things changed. At this point I’m no longer apathetic or even angry at Bungie for what happened to Destiny 2. I’m just disappointed. :/ Thanks for the trip down memory lane though Ralph!

[@jonahkohen775]

Great vid. I'm thinking of buying D1. Is there still an active D1 community for the PS4 as of July 2018?

[@corn9692]

Option A: $170 for a $35 game made by a multi million AAA team. Option B: $0 for a $170 game made by an A (up and coming) team. Operator? Ordis Wonders... What are you thinking about?

[@tunnar79]

Warframe is good,but it also has it's issues and it definitely isn't a 170$ worth game.

[@pure-332]

tunnar79 Yep. As a long time Warframe player it’s honestly garbage once you get passed mid game.

[@tyrannosaurus_x]

+Pure, but you stay hooked nonetheless.

[@pure-332]

tyrannosaurus_x It’s not a bad game, and the general mindless killing is very fun and it does keep you hooked. Only when you hit “end-game” of which there isn’t any in Warframe does it get rather boring and the true problems with the game shine.

[@singmysin]

Pure - true the grind to get to end game is annoying but worth

[@tmitchell958]

The end of the video was kind of heartbreaking to hear the developer say that and now we get this game ;(

[@Nobl3h3ro]

ECHOecho 1225 It truly is. To see the vision of the people behind the original Halos end up as a cash grab title under the now hollow, Bungie team. And it's not any better with the current Halos and 343 industries as well. 2 of my most invested sci fi shooters...one dying before it even bloomed and one that just can't be put to rest

[@opfor_8876]

ECHOecho 1225 pretty sure activision is not giving them enough development money

[@SeverSFSs]

Alan Z capital isnt an issue its the fact that theyre trying to make sooo much money with microtransactions that theyre designing the game to specifically exploit the microtransaction system and thus leaving the players left with, not a game, but a trip to the casino. Where you spend real money at a chance for some randomly generated things to pop up on your screen. Games arent about gaming anymore. Its about making money.

[@Alyeh]

I thought the title said 'The curse of *Ordis* '

[@stormcallergaming]

I agree we all should agree

[@TanneMalm]

I feel exactly the same way. I’ve put 3 years into this game and I’ve always given bungie more time because I trusted their vision. But now it feels like they’ve betrayed me, a year one player... I’m out bungie, enough is enough. I’m so disappointed in you.

[@ryanbarker3978]

Same here. Over 1000 hours in Destiny 1, and I haven't even cleared the Leviathan raid more than once or gone flawless in Trails of the Nine. Kept investing in Destiny 1 because the game kept getting better - Post April Update meta was the highlight of my Destiny PVP experience, Age of Triumph the highlight of PVE. Destiny 2 is nothing more than a hallowed out shell, stuffed with the greed of corporate scumbags trying to make a quick cash grab. It makes me feel bad for investing money in the first game.

[@sabalastroboy684]

I feel the same I bought the season pass to support the company. not to be scammed shet!!

[@enzudesign]

Same for me. Year one player. Maxed light every time. All shaders and all emblems .. and then they released Destiny 2 and i didnt get to keep any of it. My grind was pointless. But still i stayed with this game .. i completed the max light. All raids and events etc .. in Destiny 2. Then this dlc was released.. and thats fucking it im done. This game should have been soo good. Shame on you Bungie shame on you.

[@sineater4467]

Jonathan Appelgren Westling I've be there since day one as well with destiny 1, I think what we all need to do is get rid of it. If u have a hard copy sell if it's digital delete it. I already deleted mine.

[@joeyg5957]

Justin Goddard agreed

[@Legend-gu6yp]

D1 was sold on bungies name alone. What are they going to do after activisions done bending them over?

[@devilgames2217]

Legend777 ride them? 🤔

[@BlakeTheEmperor99]

Sex tent?

[@Ghettojaku]

Legend777 blow them until their dick bleeds

[@hurrhurrmurr]

Go out of business, hopefully. Bungie have missed out on all of their targets so far set by Activision to make a well-received game (Bungie were due million dollar bonuse for well rated games). A $500m investment for a game that is basically a $1m effort. I can imagine handlers at Activision will be seething because a bad game, with bad sales and a dwindlng playerbase that does not want to spend more on microtransactions does not bode well with such a large investment. CoDWW2 and Overwatch sit quite comfortably. Destiny is a huge fuckup and may as well be bleedng money considering how much has been invested. Luke Smith and Mark Noseworthy can't design a game for shit; they took the complaints about D1's systems the wrong way and gave us boring worthless shit like the kinetic, energy, heavy weapons system, shitty movement, fixed perks and 4v4 only PvP. ME Chung is in charge of the most anti-social, social game because she can't get over the past. And Christine Thompson writes stories that are so 'on the nose' and filled with exposition over character development that the stories are not compelling or interesting at all. Destiny 1 at least had a wealth of background lore to support the lack of story. D2 has nothing. A lot of Bungie's project leads are hacks. Nu-Bungie is completely diffrerent from the Bungie of old. The staff I mentioned, and more, rode on the goodwill created by people like Joe Staten and Marty O'Donnell.

[@lc9377]

true

[@mrlilnomad]

Hey man what’s the song at the end? I know it’s a Halo song but can’t remember which one or what song. I was thinking Halo 2 but notnaur

[@PatrickMullenDrums]

as it approaches to christmas, i'm wondering now if the new DLC is worth my money that i will get for gifts, if all i get is the re used tech demos. whaddya think then, this new DLC worth my christmas money?

[@bekeex]

This dlc should of been a free patch.

[@acehighflyer123]

This game just hits me with multiple levels of disappointment, some opinion and some fact. It goes without saying that I will not be waiting in suspense like I did for three years in D1 for all intensive purposes was a complete and good game. How can they honestly expect us to wait 6 years to get good? Then on top of that take away everything we had from Destiny 1 and make us earn it all again.That's a masters degree for god's sake. This serial murder of our content and then held ransom behind pay walls gets really old fast and if we have not learned now we certainly will be learning in the future that this is the form Bungie is using to press and shape their games going forward. If this were EA speak it would be Updates as a Service....LOL

[@snaketaylor4279]

Should have*

[@bekeex]

Jacob Taylor its called quick texting any format goes grammar Nazi.

[@snaketaylor4279]

RyRy XX except the right one apparently O.o

[@nexo6461]

Hey, i just wanted to say that i realy appreciate it that you still read so many comments from old Videos. Its rly suprising too See you responding too a 7 Month old Video! Keep it up!

[@sandman2070]

wow, he really never played it again.

[@cobaltepsilon1080]

Wait til he hears that "It's too hard to make content"

[@Zelisius]

Bungie: "It's too hard to make content!" Digital Extremes: "Hold my beer."

[@chrisrichardson1600]

Yeah.. say that to the huge mod community on The Nexus lol

[@kenzor389]

Lets be honest, they arent going to change until enough people actually stop purchasing their games/DLC. As long as theyre still earning millions and the player base is in the millions, this is what we've got. Ive done my bit by not buying Curse of Osiris after being a true destile for 3 years, Im not going to support this company until they change, have you done your bit?

[@jamescarter4307]

Kenzor I stopped after the Oryx DLC then gave Destiny 2 a chance and saw how they playing us like EA has played everyone (before Battlefield 2 came out) a few weeks after release the true data for the EXP came out really disappointed me then to see fucking EA did the same bloody thing with their loot boxes I want to beat the shit out of the developers and thank the animators and Artists

[@lexcent6271]

Thus is why i deleted D2 a little over a month, I'm glad I left Destiny and everyone should as well..

[@joseluissantillanbravo77]

I only bought Destiny one when they came up with the complete collection, and i planned on doing the same thing with 2, but now i'm even doubting if it will be worth it then. Only time will tell.

[@mikerouse6004]

Kenzor I waited to buy this game and now I won’t buy at all and I will never preorder a game again because of COD Infinite Warfare. Look at Battlefront, look at COD now Bungie too? My console is being used for more old games than new games

[@mostunique5941]

James Carter Battlefront 2 *

[@llElLoboll]

I'm so happy I passed on getting D2. I spent a lot of time on D1 but got tired of reskinned content, unusable nerfed exotics, and various other issues. I moved on to Elder Scrolls Online and haven't looked back. Would love to see you do a review video about ESO btw.

[@bzrkai2367]

ll El Lobo ll same eso was trash at launch but now it is an amazing mmorpg. I have like 800 hours

[@llElLoboll]

Im Bzrk lol I've only been playing a little over a year but have had a blast. I think it's a very underrated game.

[@llElLoboll]

Pyromania23 I don't think anyone could have predicted this outcome. I waited just because I hated how D1 was managed and lucked out.

[@LittleLightIsaOnce]

d1 is a master piece compared to this new shit

[@maxw4988]

ESO worth getting into?

[@joshgardiner5528]

Remember Reach

[@JusticeforLiberty]

LEVELEDFTW OoooOoohhhhh!! I member!!

[@jedi_altaire7856]

Now all these years later, I bought a discounted destiny 2 bundle with forsaken shadow keep and beyond light. No vanilla destiny 2 except for the initial mission, and that's it. They haven't changed at all.

[@RicharbY]

Nothing wrong with having faith, but Bungie has mistaken the faith for praise. They've become arrogant because players keep buying their half ass expansions and accepting the mediocrity instead of critiquing it.

[@PhantomPain74]

100.00% I payed for this DLC, and bought the BLOOD AND WINE from THE WITCHER. The Bungie DLC is a jocke compare to that DLC. The people will leave desriny, them to get back is much harder than repaire D2.

[@emmett3344]

PhantomPain74 MZR witcher is such a great of game :)

[@faisal10fizo]

The witcher 3 is another level.. that level no way to EA or bungie or Ubisoft would reach not even close

[@astrocyborg]

why you comparing a fake rpg aka d2 to a proper rpg the witcher

[@faisal10fizo]

AstroCyborg you’re right

[@Psycorde]

To make something like Blood and Whine you have to actually care about the product you're putting out there, respect your labor and audience. That's the difference.

[@RJ-qm1gi]

Hi everyone, I bought destiny about a couple weeks ago for $3 at GameStop. The last planet I unlocked is Mars, are there no other places to unlock before buying dlc, besides how do I know when I even complete the main story??

[@01234567891011121338]

I actually just saw a comment from you on The Late Night Show with Steven Colbert comment section. Saw a check next to your name and thought I would check you out. Glad I did. I am always looking for more gaming reviews and news on KZbin and so far I'm enjoying your content. You just earned yourself a subscriber.

[@nosleep1271]

I jumped in, reached power level 315. Got my Switch in the mail yesterday. Started Breath Of The Wild. The rest is history.

[@fortris]

No Sleep 315 means you bought the DLC lol.

[@yhwachpoetry4205]

No Sleep FACTS!!!!!

[@carelesshornet1-_-477]

ACTUALLY SAME

[@JonathanVelez]

Unfortunately some of us purchased the deluxe version. Haven't played the expansion yet and if I hadn't already purchased it I wouldn't be buying it now but you live and you learn.

[@This1guy956]

Welcome to a real game @ No Sleep. Breath of the wild is a phenomenal experience 👌

[@RobertRenton]

For me the take away is don't follow developers, just buy good games. I'm not going to stop buying EA games because of Battlefront II, or RockStar because of the monitorisation of GTA V. I'll wait, read the reviews, and then only buy the best games from who ever made them. If half a year down the track the developer has fixed their game I'll even reconsider a game a had already passed on. The thing is, don't be a fanboy. Loyalty is for your friends, not busnesses.

[@JoshMarshain]

Oh my god, someone with a goddamn head on their shoulders! You hit it right on the nose Robert

[@isultansultangaliev5852]

Rockstar gives you the best single player city sandbox game in existence, as well as an extremely fun multiplayer version of it with constant updates and an array of new content all of which is achievable in game for free, and you're still not happy. Gaming community in a nutshell.

[@caboose5287]

Rockstar is by all means greedy. But at least you get what you pay for.

[@bobbyboy38]

iSultan Sultangaliev sounds like warframe but you forgot. S H A R K C A R D S

[@XDarkEcho]

There is truth in what you say, but even some reviews can be extremely biased. It's hard to tell whether a game will be good or bad at the start, I just go play what interests me, and usually I never regret it. Of course, people need to do research on the games their interested in as well, or they'll end up getting scammed. Since, I remember when Destiny 2 came out and the reviews were flooding out, it was all but praise for the game mostly. Then a few weeks later, people began regretting it, and the bashing began. I guess it's just best to wait it out for games in general, unless it's something you generally like.

[@Dekrypt84]

I'm not stepping foot into another Bungie product until they go back to being Artisans instead of Bamboozlers. Savvy?

[@nani8127]

This is the first video of yours that I ever watched and I have to say it is absolute perfection. You are clearly a person who puts time and effort into his videos and has a true passion for gaming that I feel is sorely lacking in other channels on youtube. No matter what you do please stay true to your passion and continue to deliver your honest opinion as you displayed here. I'm glad that you are the first person whose channel I have ever left a comment on because you have earned my respect as a fellow gamer.

[@thelucky0239]

This video is 100 percent correct. Ive completely walked away from it over night and within a month. This video sums my feelings and i think everyone needs to wake up to what has happened.

[@lexcent6271]

Same, hope more can do the same because money is the only way Activision and bungie may listen. Stop playing d2

[@cameronfoley8879]

Word dog

[@snooze0023]

I 100% disagree. Its a great game.

[@heldaneurbanus5135]

I'm sorry you lost something you enjoyed. We're here for you Tenno.

[@lastconsole]

Dec 2002, our company was in a statistics pile that proved most dot coms didn’t make it. I was looking forward to some time off and my buddy gifts me an Xbox. I had not put any time into video games since the arcade in high school. The first game we played… Halo: Combat Evolved in split screen co-op. I was amazed (at the time) how far games had come. We spent 6 hours that first night working through the campaign. These days, we are separated by several time zones and we have other things in life that take priority, but about twice a month we catch up online and play a game where we both can work towards a few achievements. We’re not hardcore gamers. But we also know when a game is not giving us anything worth our time. We’ve moved on from D2 simply because it’s uninteresting. Osiris was the nail in the coffin. I bought the gold version so am stuck, but I literally finished Osiris just to check the box. Cliche story and trite dialogue. Spot on review.

[@fatalfury66]

Unfortunately bungee died a long time ago I think. The second Destiny just proves it for me :-( Halo was one of the things that got me into gaming seriously. It was unlike anything I've ever played before and had an amazing storyline. Destiny 2 was just a sad and pathetic shell of what could have been

[@hyze2552]

Nathan A Activision happen

[@andrewrchooven1996]

The Main Character Bungie is to be blamed too

[@lordchimpington87]

I really want to play destiny on pc, but don’t want to get d2. Anyone know what I should do?

[@popkid2395]

This is honestly a true review. I also loved Destiny and the lore, and just wanted the lore in the game. Which we got a glimpse of, but not alot. We have saint 14 in the dlc, but he's dead, locked behind a stupid long grind and all we see is his grave. No more information about him. I want character arcs, we see Osiris, but can we see him struggle? Can we see him make a realization? We don't even get to know what that cube thing he used is, or how he got it. In base D2, we go to Nessis and help Ikora go from abandoning everything, to getting her to help out. I want more like that. I want to dive into the creation of the vex, why Osiris left, what has he been doing. Instead we get told about the past a little, told about the future, kill the boss, and we're done. I think it was a perfect opportunity for us to travel back in time with the infinite forest to the battle of six fronts. Fight the fallen, and see how Osiris and Saint 14 helped the city. Go to a future where there is no light, and earth is taken over or destroyed, and everyone has been turned into vex. So much missed opportunity, I can only hope (whatever is left of it) that dlc 2 or the taken king style expansion can fix these problems, but like he said in the video, I don't know if I want to wait again.

[@Kaptainkiely]

It pains me dude. I have shared the same sentiment as you. I want to love destiny but I don't think I can anymore. When the dark below landed we hated it and Bungie knew yet here we are again curse of osiris is nothing better than what we got then. Visually great but that's all it is a feast for the eyes. They are learning nothing from the feedback instead they are just going on the path of greed which will end badly for them now that the majority of the community has had enough of the bullshit. D1 we all saw the potential, d2 was supposed to see it unleashed but instead what we have is shallow , mediocre and heart breaking if I'm honest. I'm struggling to move on from something I cared passionately about but ultimately I have to. As always great content dude glad to see you put something like this up.

[@1985NEVETS]

Kaptain's Kave I know right.i played d1 so much and loved what it turned into and was really excited about d2.I thought they were going to blow us away.with every expansion in d1 they learned new things and understood how the community was.I can understand with a new IP but with a sequel that they've had 3 years of feedback and experience with is baffling.

[@Murdn]

Kaptain's Kave I just can’t understand how they regressed from Destiny 1. In Destiny 2 there is no incentive to do anything at all. Exotics act the exact same - if not worse - than their legendary counterparts, multiplayer is still unappealing to the casual player, and the game still relies on forced-DLC. I played D1 for 34 days in total, and held faith that Bungie could only improve. I was wrong and will never buy another game by this horrible company again.

[@itsybitsyzombie]

I regret spending $90 on this game and expansion pass.

[@Walamonga1313]

itsybitsyzombie Lol

[@Randompancakes12345]

Same

[@bpsc9882]

I fucking pre ordered it too.

[@NeverQuit87]

itsybitsyzombie lol foolish to buy the pass

[@mikes5637]

As a mature gamer may I give you some sage advice which actually applies to pretty much all forms of commerce? Never *ever* pay upfront for something you've never seen. Now, can a nurse please take me back to my room?

[@justjake8393]

That fuckin restaurant analogy was perfect. That's EXACTLY what's wrong right now. Even McDonalds will treat you properly if they mess up your order. What Bungie, EA, Activision, Bethesda, and others have been doing lately is more like a abusive relationship, treating us like shit, thinking of us as idiots, making us pay the bills, and knowing no matter what they do, that most of us will keep coming back again and again and declaring to everyone who sees the bullshit for what it is... "You guys don't understand, you just don't see them at their best, they're actually really nice and treat me good in private!"

[@Chemnut220]

I can relate to this video - having just quit a game that I loved since beta, a game that I played thousands of hours and spent tons of money on - that was completely ruined by bad developers. That said, I see a trend here. The developers of my beloved game 100% turned their backs on the seasoned and mostly salty player base in order to cater to fresh meat that was ready and willing to spend. It seems like that is the case with Destiny 2. This is the first FPS I have played since halo 1. I actually really really like it - but that is probably because I don’t know any better. You make a great logical case in your video but let me give you my 2 cents. These developers know that there is no $$ in pleasing a player base that has already given most or all that they are willing to spend (both time and money). They know that new players like me will be fascinated by the pretty graphics, new style of game play and cool looking weapons. We will keep playing despite your logical and absolutely correct review because it is a fun game - from our perspective at least. My advice is to not get too comfy with any video game/developer because in the end - it’s all about the bottom line and new players are going to spend - so the seasoned players get screwed.

[@greyfox1956]

Wow... This really made me sad. I'm not a Destiny fan and never was. So, I don't give a shit about that game. But I still watched all your videos covering Destiny 2 and I could tell how much you love that game and how excited you were. Seeing how they fucked it all up really made me sad because it was such a huge disappointment to so many people. But I want to thank you for your honesty, you are doing a great job! You are calling Bungie out on there bullshit and i respect that very much! I salute you!

[@NeutralGravity]

Love the restaurant analogy

[@imjahova7974]

Neutral Gravity So true, destiny 2 looked so much better then the burnt and shit meal at first and then you dig in and find out it's raw and the same shit as previously

[@_c_e_]

Love the restaurant analogy too, it's just not a sustainable one once the patrons find out how to get free loot ;)

[@Venom8419]

Neutral Gravity Spaghetti Bolognese looked good. 😂

[@tobyhughes9525]

I don't quite think so. He explains that a 'good' business would offer a meal and service for free just to satisfy their upset customer. Destiny has countless upset customers at this point but, instead of offering an incentive for them to forgive the company and continue playing, it's more cost-effective to let them go. The players who 'give up' are just factored into the numbers, just like how Wall-Mart will write shoplifting into their calculations. Once the money trades hands, it's done, no need to keep the customer entertained. The upset customers will only come back when they think that the company has changed and Bungie, much like many other companies these days, will do everything they can to try and market their next big thing as something that needs buying.

[@Tim-is-short]

Neutral Gravity Me too, he just forgot to mention the part where the staff spit in the food after getting your order wrong the first time.

[@lumeronswift]

I was really hoping the infinite forest was at least holographic trees - I was looking for anything other than blocks over chasms, which is every other environment in Destiny 2, but I reeeeeeally hoped it was actual trees. It could have been awesome if you had a dark forest to explore and fight in, where you had limited access to map (like Black Desert Online's desert or The Division's dark zones) and anticipating enemy encounters was tricky due to the shade from the canopy. Instead it was a semi-procedural trek through blocky skies again...

[@Rehteal]

Man. This was BEFORE all the shit going on now.