Destiny 2 YouTuber Sued For $7.6 Million After Abusing Copyright While Impersonating Bungie

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[@brightenblack207]

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[@CasualKing21]

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[@Luddle_Puddle]

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[@jcornscorndog941]

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[@MajesticGiant]

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[@Doctorgeo7]

Be great if KZbin would be sued for how easy it is to abuse their DMCA system. That might motivate them to fix their utterly broken system

[@Wyattporter]

Problem is, nobody who wants to can. Corporations benefit from the easily-abused DMCA system, and those who are affected don’t have the resources to fight back against fraudulent claims or KZbin itself.

[@Gojira.destroyingtokyo]

The problem isn’t the DMCA system, the problem are the copyright infringement laws. Laws that legally would make even doing a review of a show without any images be considered a copyright infringement. The dmca system is sadly the best option at the moment unless people can find a way to change copyright laws with lets be real will only happen when the end of the world happens

[@mekacrab]

@@Gojira.destroyingtokyo It could clearly get improved though, like by having to prove that you own the copyright at least. KZbin probably doesn't care enough so I'm pretty sure they barely even control who's asking for the video to be removed, that's why they striked one of bungies own videos

[@TwitchyTopHat1]

Creators could band together for a class action against KZbin. Only thing preventing that is organization and a willing lawfirm

[@Tory-JJ]

doubt it.

[@chadwickmccarty4944]

I see this as KZbin being partially culpable since they have known for this potential exploit & still allow it to be abused. The victims that got it the worst were the other content creators being DMCAed fraudulently & then won't get any compensation. Lord Nazo seems very immature but should have to repay the loss of incomes to the other content creators &/or go to jail with a no internet restriction.

[@42psychoj]

Unfortunately, unless Bungie themselves give out the money they get from their case. The other content creators either have to do their own lawsuit or try to join Bungie in their case which I'm not sure if they actually can. That is just the way it works in court.

[@Ryanyeet]

@@isturboot1659 Not arguing, but how is bungie "The worst player here." I don't see how they are.

[@jello6845]

@@isturboot1659 You dislike people defending bungie baselessly, so you hate on bungie without providing any reasons. How ironic

[@goated3285]

@@isturboot1659 they are reacting to an idiot who abused the copyright system. Do u not know wft cause & reaction is? Why would I go at them when the idiot shouldn’t have done it in the first place. Df I look like blaming them for looking out for their own company & others. Foh argue with your own morals!

[@jello6845]

@@isturboot1659 The problem is when people are so deep into a rabbit hole they see everyone else as fanboys. Firstly you don't know me, I've never played a game made by bungie and don't really care about them. I also generally dislike destiny for its Grindy nature and microtransactions infested aspects. Atleast this time you made some points about why you dislike bungie: "that they were DMCA claiming fans". I won't claim to know about the situation aside from the occasional yongyea mention because once again I don't care for destiny. From what I understood Bungie was DMCA claiming osts (something I am all too familiar with from Nintendo), this bad actor got striked but was arrogant and decided to dish out massive amounts of copyright strikes against innocent KZbinrs. Firstly in the order of the worst actors: 1) KZbin comes first, this is a site wide issue and countless people are affected because of their incompetence. What they're doing is absolutely horrible and I hope bungie launches a big lawsuit on KZbin. 2) The bad actor themselves, what they did was illegal. They willfully harmed multiple people's careers, endangered the entire game's image, lied and manipulated all in their crusade of pride. They get no sympathy for me (although I do wish KZbin was sued for a few billions) 3) Bungie themselves taking down ost ripped from the game (i.e non-transformative content) is not illegal but it's a dick move I'll agree. They have since then said it was fine to archive those osts (atleast that's what I heard from yongyea). So generally while I'll agree Bungie's no Saint they didn't do anything illegal, just a dick move that they have since backed away from. Really the worst actor here is KZbin themselves

[@jesusojeda7850]

The guy is obviously wrong and deserves some kind of punishment, but do you know who else is at fault? youtube, with their faulty algorithm or whatever they use to verify take down accusations. Nowadays, many people can be falsely accused while "others" can say and do whatever and never be punished.

[@ThePlayplay64]

I agree 100% with you. But, I also wish people would pull away from the " you do one thing lets wreck you forever" I know this person is not going to have to pay that amount but I also know it's going to be a stupidly high amount in court fees/ settlement, etc. What this person did was stupid but I don't think they should get ruined for it. This person is going to be finally ruined fighting this, I don't think that's right.

[@julien2231]

​@@ThePlayplay64 yes it is fine. dont want to be ruined? dont act out of anger.

[@BullsMahunny]

Negative. KZbin having a garbage system does not excuse someone from maliciously sabotaging a company, all of the people who trusted him, and anyone else in the crosshairs. That's called enablement. The ONLY PERSON at fault here is Nazo. Plain and simple.

[@ThePlayplay64]

@@julien2231 This may be a point where we disagree. I'm not ok with what the person did, but more often than not it feels like punishments don't fit the crimes due to the financial burden people face. It's not unique to thisperson. But, I look forward to seeing how this places out as I'm sure they will settle out of court.

[@dragb9284]

Especially after quantum tv and act man and how KZbin clearly refuses to follow there own tos to protect people yeah KZbin is responsible for negligence.

[@Xertaron.]

What's the most baffling isn't what he did, but how easily he did it, which goes to show utterly broken YT copyright system is. If it was a proper system, none of this would even be possible and making everyone aware of it is going to force a change. So there's some positive aspect in this whole mess.

[@sean8102]

I hope. But this is far from the first time something like this has happened. Minus the ~7-million-dollar punishment though lol. Maybe that will at least discourage some idiots.

[@SirUncleDolan]

Yep! Just like how everyone knowing Act Man is right over QuantumTV made KZbin make it right

[@gakuyax]

1) the guy deserves it 2) this shows youtube dmca system is shit and youtube also needed to be sued

[@procrastinatinggamer]

I mean Bungie did rip into KZbin something fierce in the court filings. Not sure if there’s a corporate damages thing or something for Bungie to look at to go after KZbin but I’m sure they had their lawyers check (or will once this case is resolved).

[@Jagrofes]

It’s not a KZbin problem, it’s a DMCA problem. You can check the DMCA policies of GitLabs and other sites, they are similar. In fact, if they didn’t act the way they do now, KZbin would be breaking DMCA law themselves. KZbin know their DMCA rules are shit, but legally they can’t do anything about it. The DMCA Laws are out dated and need to be updated.

[@phatphan1403]

@@Jagrofes It is half anf half. There are certain parts in DMCA requires lots of compliance costs for KZbin (Google). Instead of hiring more people to monitor DMCA content, Google hires less and shifts the burden to the public. They make DMCA become a war between copyright owners and content users, and just sit still doing nothing helpful.

[@aahzmandiaz2767]

For half of the 7.6 Million $.

[@ThatsMrMaxHeadroomToYou]

3) this is just weapons grade autism and couldn't be any more cringe

[@balamstudios]

The fact that a single person managed to do that so easily just show how the system is sooo broken

[@bleachhollow14]

This is why Actman needs to win or else this copyright abuse is gonna continue!

[@r3d539]

The ActMan case show how little youtube care with its Creator.

[@Greg_Stache]

Exactly! Justice for Act Man!

[@mukamuka0]

@@r3d539 Yes, this case is solved because Bungie took the time & armed lawyer to help its community, not KZbin. I don't foresee Youtupe help Creator even in the next millions years because there's no incentive. To KZbin, creator is expendable just like how warehouse workes is to Amazon. Expendable...

[@apophisstr6719]

@@r3d539 The sun is more likely to rise from the west than major corporations caring about their -live stock- customers.

[@latinouncle8752]

Act man is completely in the wrong, he's a Karen trying to cancel a smaller KZbinr while pretending to be anti cancel culture

[@adummy9664]

It gets even more petty when you learn that the reason Lord Nazo's videos were getting taken down is because they were based off the soundtrack versions of the music that you would buy from Bungie's official website, so he was essentially uploading paid content on his channel. The other music channels were fine because they were based off recording the in-game audio that played and uploading that, rather than the paid soundtrack versions of the music.

[@onefastsled]

Not only that, the major ones like Archival Mind, actively avoid uploading sound tracks Bungie are selling as well

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

It's great to see KZbin taking so much care of their creators, like removing the dislike counter, allowing fraudulent copyright takedowns and keeping their monetization guidelines hidden from the public, amirite?? I would _hate_ to see what would be like if KZbin _actually_ opposed its users...

[@theoppaiconnoisseur.2306]

for me the final nail in the coffin was the way they treated Act Man, it just proved the utter bullshit way they deal with stuff like this,

[@avlan9074]

Gonna add more 5 ads unskippable, 5 banner ads on side, many ads on between vids, an pop-up ads with 15 second delay to close, and subscription to watch on 4k just we can stay afloat

[@joro8693]

Want the answer even if they did? Absolutely nothing. KZbinrs will still be on this platform, held at gunpoint because there is no chance of youtubers actually stepping away to go to another platform and KZbin knows that.

[@joro8693]

@@leonidasrose2060 yeah exactly, I’m not judging them, they are held at gunpoint. I don’t even think it would work if youtubers did a mass exodus. The monopoly of KZbin is so strong I can’t figure out how to fix it. It’s really depressing because KZbin could have been something truly amazing.

[@darthlazurus4382]

The good news is that KZbin isn't attractive to non users. They aren't attracting folk, and the kids prefer Tik-Tok.

[@ernestlemmingway1124]

Bungie needs to sue KZbin for allowing this to happen. The only way YT will ever shape up is if they're forced to and a costly lawsuit is the only way to force them. Force them to verify the claimant is actually who they say they are; they already require legal ID to watch "mature" content so they clearly have that capability. If the claimant is not who they say they are, kick them off the platform.

[@darthplagueis13]

I think they actually did. Haven't heard anything about it since though, I reckon their lawsuit just got thrown out or settled.

[@hauntedshadowslegacy2826]

@@darthplagueis13 Lawsuits (especially in civil law) take years to fully pan out. Give it some time. That said, going after KZbin directly likely isn't the right move. Bungie needs to bring this up with the government. The real problem in all this is the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which is so extremely out-of-date that it allows platforms to protect content thieves from the rightful owners.

[@Nknz007]

its crazy out there

[@vittripps]

Gotta be honest, 20 seconds of audio problems followed by "this is a real mess" was really funny

[@sheamusdale7603]

I thought it was on purpose xD

[@kriscynical]

I've had to file formal DMCA takedown notices when my work was minted as NFTs without my authorization, and one of the aspects of doing so is saying you acknowledge that false filing a DMCA is legally considered perjury. This guy is an idiot and deserves everything that's coming to him along with KZbin needing to be held partially responsible for being so negligent in how they handle DMCAs. When I filed for my artwork I HAD to supply a URL to where I had previously uploaded the works in question in order to prove that they were mine. The fact that KZbin allows you to just... not do that part... is asinine.

[@morkins3243]

Technically, you could own the copyright to something that you never posted anywhere previously. So, the website requiring you to provide a URL where you had previously uploaded the works in question is actually creating a scenario whereby they could erroneously deny a legitimate copyright claim and thereby jeopardize their own Safe Harbor status under DMCA. If they were to deny your claim on the basis of you not being able to supply a URL where you had previously uploaded the work in question, then they could be held liable by you for damages down the line if they were to ignore your Takedown Request. Just as an example of how something like this might theoretically occur, say it was a piece of art that you had been working on for some time. Lets say that you are hypothetically student at a University and you want to use a particular editing program that you don't have on your personal computer or that does not run well on your personal computer, so you go work on it on a computer in one of the Computer Labs provided by the University. Say you save the file to that computer and leave it there, copying it to a thumb drive, but leaving a copy on that computer. Now, lets say that someone else at the University goes to that Computer Lab, finds the artwork, decides that it looks cool and decides to steal it to mint as an NFT. The fact that you have never posted this artwork publicly does not make it any less your intellectual property. There are too many scenarios where corner cases like this can exist, and KZbin does not want to open themselves up to potentially having their Safe Harbor status challenged. So, they are going to handle it in the most conservative manner imaginable. They are going to treat every claim as valid and ask for only the bare minimum information about that claim. They have procedures for content creators to submit counter-claims, and if there is further dispute after a counter-claim is submitted then it is not KZbin's place to decided which party is in the right. If the Claimant and Uploader are in disagreement about whether or not a given Copyright Claim is valid, then the matter must go to Court. KZbin doesn't get to decide who is correct. A Judge/Jury must decide. KZbin does not need to do anything more than that. If there is a dispute about whether or not a claim is valid, then the place for that to be handled is in court. Does that suck given that many content creators may not be able to afford to take that to court? Yeah. But, the alternative creates a scenario whereby KZbin might not exist at all.

[@kriscynical]

@@morkins3243 Paragraph breaks, my dude, please use them. 😵‍💫

[@morkins3243]

@@kriscynical it's a fucking KZbin comment. But fine, made an edit.

[@lordmolag45000]

With recent events with Act Man and Quantum TV (the bastard copyright abuser), KZbin has proven to us that they support copyright abusers. I'm glad that companies like Bungie exist. I know Bungie is far from perfect, but at the very least they're just as sick and tired of copyright abuse on KZbin just as the rest of us.

[@songohan3321]

Don't go to his comments section. Quantum TV deletes comments and have nothing but Cult members commenting on his videos.

[@kimjuanjun7124]

I hope quantum tv goes broke and bankrupt for what he’s doing to others plus act man

[@TimelostInTheSauce]

@@gent-47 found the alt account lol

[@georgejones5019]

@@gent-47 Ah, a Quantum Discord member appears. How's your shitty $5 configuration for your TV?

[@songohan3321]

@@TimelostInTheSauce Alt Account #9

[@Wyattporter]

So this Nicholas Minor guy went through a cartoon villain arc. He literally said “if I can’t upload these videos… _no one can“_ and became a supervillain

[@rudeboyjohn3483]

KZbin:We'll regulate ourselves, thank you KZbin Regulating itself: These false copyright flags from different accounts of the same company are totally legit

[@dagon7259]

The real question is will YT ever fix their copyright system

[@Nknz007]

i hope so

[@zaferoph]

Hell yeah ! We need this to happen to all the copyright impersonators.

[@GeekyDolphin46]

Dont forget about abuser like Quantum.

[@Ss4Goten]

Not just impersonators, also just abusers.

[@zaferoph]

@@GeekyDolphin46 oh of course but like... those are already SUPPOSED to be dealt with... supposedly. KZbin does be lagging behind with strikes on Quantum though... by like years.... so yeeeh. Like that whole situation is absurd.

[@hermitcard4494]

No mercy.

[@batmeme9349]

@NothingIsSomething KZbin won't do it mainly because the owner of Quantumtv Channel is, well a black person...

[@ooberallen]

glad someone is finally seeing some consequences of abusing DMCA to take down content they don't like.

[@izra709]

The fact that he could even do that, and for so many videos, is just another example of how bad KZbin's copyright system is

[@Coretide660]

You know what is really sad is that had he not copyright struck bungie and went after only the creators, he could have easily gotten away with it even if bungie made a statement about those strikes and since they have money, most would not believe them and think bungie was behind the strikes and this guy would bolster that further for his revenge.

[@kirara2516]

the worst part is the one defending their content has to give the opposing party their full name, address, email, etc. Basically dox themselves to the aggressor while youtube offers no protection or responsibility for whatever happens.

[@dragb9284]

If that’s bad you should look up the quantum tv act man KZbin issue and see how not only is KZbin knowingly protecting copy right abusers they often suppress people calling them out.

[@georgejones5019]

@@dragb9284 exactly

[@Coretide660]

@@dragb9284 I know about that situation and with these 2 combined, probably worse shit is about to happen and we may not see it coming until it's too late.

[@fenrir_Lokison9]

We have to see the positive of this situation. It shows perfectly how youtube system is broken and useless. Maybe this case will generate attention and instead of thinking about this as the Destiny copyright scam, as the "how broken is youtube".

[@lawrencelopez9839]

If the lawyers can spin it in a way that makes youtube liable to pay for even a percentage of the damages youtube will take immediate action to stop this from happening again while saying something like "we care about our creators so we're adding more protections"

[@01ASTRALICE]

As I said before. Let's thank him for funding future expansions and seasons. He literally funded all future Destiny franchise. *W.*

[@vanpeters9751]

Lol I doubt he has 7 million dollars so more like no funding and jail time

[@Yarsig]

Bungie is unlikely to see a penny from the guy even if they win. It's unlikely he even has that kind of money.

[@nabawi7]

That dude will file for bankruptcy before he somehow comes up with $7 million. He isnt funding anything.

[@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire]

And this is on top of the other 13.5 million from the cheat suppliers. So what _would_ Bungie do with the 13-20 million$’s for the game? How much does an expansion or season cost to develop anyway?

[@nonye0]

@@nabawi7 how long do bankruptcy last in america?

[@omniadoc]

Wow, so even big companies are easily scammed by a phony email. Glad to see that everything has been fixed though.

[@syco579]

Bungie should take it a step further and sue KZbin as well, after all it was their broken ass copyright system that caused this whole mess

[@Acypha]

No they shouldn’t. They can’t go toe to toe.

[@cafelatte1124]

Bungie is far too small compared to Google for that to happen. If Google shuts them down in some sectors of their business, since Google owns way too much IPs/Platforms, it will hurt Bungie in the long run even if they win the lawsuit.

[@Homiloko2]

KZbin is literally following the DMCA law, the law is the problem. If you look it up, it states that it has to be complied immediately and you don't have to submit proof of ownership to request a DMCA. Literally anyone can post a DMCA claim on any website, and they have to comply, but if you post a false claim you can be sued.

[@Acypha]

@@cafelatte1124 exactly

[@aahzmandiaz2767]

If they do not do it, the perpetrator will. Because KZbin had no security to speak of. It was an open door. He is even able to say, that they made it possible in the first place. He just "suggested" they take the channels down. They should have known that he did not own the rights.... I think he even able to get out of the number exact that way.- He just needs to say, it was meant as a joke.... He never expected KZbin to act on his bad "joke".

[@mxmissy]

It is wild how often this happens, where someone will create a fake DMCA takedown, you'd think KZbin/Google would step in and fix that loophole. But noooo, it's too much effort.

[@Bryan21381]

Well, I'm hoping you cover the quantum TV situation, Yong. KZbin is in some deep shit right now.

[@auraaetherbladesigma6939]

Yep

[@deadwalkin12345]

Second this. We need more people covering the Quantum situation since it sets a precedent for every TOS breaking clown out there. Not to mention the fact that Quantum has a video advocating the doxing of Act Mans family.. *THATS STILL MONETIZED*

[@Funnyvid16]

Probably won’t, KZbin has been demonizing people who do to shut em up

[@lordmolag45000]

That guy literatly threatened Act Man's mom. He should be permanently demonetized, not fucking Act Man, the guy who was right all along. But hey, poor old Susan at KZbin is a coward and will do nothing about it except make the issue worse, just like what she did to KZbin itself.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

For real. This means nothing as long as this website's copyright system stays broken.

[@kidblazer16]

literal definition of "play stupid games, win stupid prizes". good luck nick lol

[@firaphex2824]

This should teach youtube a lesson on how broken this system is. It won't. But it should.

[@TS34675]

Sounds like once again KZbin's system fails everyone.

[@ssj4922]

This is great news, now let's have QuantumTV sued as well, thank you very much

[@djsazm3580]

Exactly!

[@ifirespondiamstupid7750]

Actman and Rich ate Quantards crap. Get over it.

[@billyhenerson2871]

If there's any reason to fix their copyright system, this would be it. Companies suing KZbinr's for abusing the copyright system and getting away with it paints KZbin in a really bad light, and it's not going to look good for potential advertisers. These people should be punished by KZbin themselves, especially ones that are extremely homophobic and racist such as Quantum TV. That whole situation is a mess.

[@TacticalBeard]

Pretty hilarious actually. Not like KZbin’s ever going to fix its poor DMCA system

[@Torlonus]

It boggles my mind that people seem to think that the laws don't apply to them if they are mad enough.

[@E3Persona]

I know right

[@davidlanceescandor1310]

Quantum TV did that and not only got away with it, but also was protected by KZbin.

[@Tigerwarrior200]

Because if you are mad enough you will do anything, despite the consequences

[@Chris_Sizemore]

Lord Nazo isn't going to jail. He broke no laws. He is being sued for causing damages. It is a bit different. The thing is, I'm surprised by the content of the lawsuit itself. First, this Lord Nazo is a small time player. It is unlikely that he has the deep pockets to pay the 7.3 million being claimed. Also, proving the 7.3 million in damages is going to be difficult. Then the question of why KZbin isn't included as a defendent party comes into question. The party that actually caused the damages was KZbin, not Lord Nazo. That would actually be a valid defense if KZbin isn't included. Usually all of the bad actors get looped into a lawsuit, and the defendants are all responsible for the settlement. Basically if the lawsuit succeeded and Bungie received money KZbin and Lord Nazo would negotiate to see how much of the settlement each party would pay. Since KZbin has the deeper pockets and is fundamentally the one that actually caused the losses, they would pay the majority of the settlement. If KZbin gets looped into the lawsuit. Taking on just Lord Nazo means you're draining him of financial resources. Just the legal fees to fight this will hurt him immensely. It is much more likely for him to lose this case than if KZbin was added because KZbin can afford to fight this case for as long as they wish to. Or KZbin could just settle the case out of court because it will be less embarrassing. Then KZbin can sue Lord Nazo and cite Bungie's lawsuit as the damages.

[@zone453]

@@davidlanceescandor1310 liar

[@jarotheboar8398]

Hmmmmm, KZbin has been quiet about this for months I wonder why

[@lonewolf5238]

Why the hell don't they sue KZbin as well? KZbin is equally culpable for creating and maintaining a copyright protection system that allows this type of abuse.

[@lyoko348]

Didn't youtube make some rule absolving them of any fault if the copyright system is abused? Could be wrong, so take it with a grain of salt.

[@PikaLink91]

So this is a rare case where the multi million dollar company isn't the enemy.

[@pagatryx5451]

Meh. Not really. I'm gonna rant here because I have some things to say about it. Firstly, there's KZbin who's at fault for the copyright system. Secondly, Bungie is at fault, even if this guy was an utter twat about it. Why copyright the music? They're not selling songs, they're selling games and expansions. Music being reuploaded onto the platform does not hurt Bungie in anyway I can see, and the problem with Destiny 2 is it vaults content. Some of the songs that get reuploaded cannot be found in the game anymore. So I do think it's incredibly bad of them to do that. Thirdly: and this is an admittedly messy thing to think about... the legal way of doing things is completely impractical. In 99% of the time, achieving nothing. One person being able to do damage to a company CAN be valid in my opinion. Even at the cost of innocent bystanders. Now, before people get all pissy, I'm not saying this guy was right or even that I want vigilantes breaking stuff on the internet. But, if someone was to break things at youtube (even at the cost of content creators) in response to the Actman situation, I'd be completely onboard. If the person is competent, and situation justified, stuff like this may be our only way of forcing companies to acknowledge their own consumers. Otherwise, large corporations like Google are basically untouchable.

[@Breshi123]

@@pagatryx5451 I want to clarify a few things. Bungie does sell their music. Bungie has a Bungie Store website with all of their soundtracks for sale. Lord Nazo was buying the soundtracks from there, looping them, and then reuploading them to KZbin. Because the soundtracks Bungie do release aren't always complete and in fact are missing a ton of music, some people extract music from the game files and upload those for archival reasons because of the Destiny Content Vault. Nazo did not do this. Because Nazo re-uploaded the versions of the music Bungie sold and not the in-game extended/unreleased versions he was struck by Bungie. Nazo didn't believe he was really struck by Bungie but thought it was someone posing as Bungie. So to bring attention to this "imposter" Nazo himself became an imposter and struck videos himself while posing as Bungie. Problem is Nazo's videos were really struck down by Bungie. Not a fraud. All of this would've been avoided if Nazo knew the one that striked his channel was indeed Bungie.

[@BitrateBilly]

@@pagatryx5451 No, one thing bungie does really well is copyright stuff, they allow you to use all sorts of their stuff as well as their API, looking online you can find all sorts of custom destiny merch as well as allowing you to use their soundtracks for videos, this is also why stuff like the archival mind channel was used to upload archived music without bungie knocking them down because it was both unique ingame music not in the official ost as well as it being an extended cut

[@lethauntic]

This is similar to those riots that you hear about, in a broad sense. The idea is that by hurting innocent people, friends, family, everyone, you are somehow expecting to be heard with more attentiveness than anyone who dares protest peacefully.

[@Razer5542]

Bungie should sue KZbin while they're at it..

[@lryiss9407]

Bungie will never have the money required to take on Google even if they continue to make games for the next 50 years.

[@DyingDarkStar]

Im glad he did that, i hope this will make KZbin fix their shit.

[@russelllong3561]

Does this mean we can sue Qunatum TV for the DMCA abuse for a couple mil?

[@DrakeRazgriz]

"Every action has a consequence. If you choose the action, you must accept the consequence as well." You learn this has a child.

[@gManGabe]

Bungie found the guy and put a lawsuit that no one would be able to pay in their lifetime unless they come from money and are _very skilled_ at making more. Meanwhile, KZbin's copyright system lives on. This won't bring change. Bungie won't come after YT. I expect this to end in nothing.

[@HarmonySword]

Google is too big to be taken on by a smaller company like Bungie. Plus this copyright problem has been around ever since KZbin first started and of course nothing changed in 17 years. So unless the big KZbinrs with big recognition does something, this problem will never go away.

[@Nknz007]

exactly bro

[@scrillthebeast2066]

“Give someone power and you’ll find out their true nature.”

[@sinjin8576]

Well that's some good news for the day. Fantastic. Impersonators and those who do false DMCAs need to face *substantial* penalties. I want more companies and people to go this hard on these jackasses. They deserve it.

[@gameonhawaii5326]

"I'll see you guys next time. Yong Gaaah!" 😂👍

[@mightylink65]

This is not just Bungie, this shit is happening EVERYWHERE...

[@joshallen128]

Take down and ask questions later is the policy of many websites to avoid being sued out of existence

[@Idividezero]

I hope there's some clickbait article now about how KZbin "encourages" fake copyright claims, lets get the whole Internet in on this.

[@kosmosfan01]

I forgot about this story. People have been telling YT to fix their system for the longest time now. This guy didn't need to prove that he represented the company and did all of this.

[@MrERRada]

Someone needs to sue KZbin for their incompetent copyright system.

[@iggyboo]

And I'm so glad that YT fixed that problem with their copyright system ... oh wait ... they still haven't. Interesting

[@zeefrea]

Never have I seen an UNO Reverse card played on an UNO Reverse card this hard before

[@uhhhpersoniguess]

Can't wait to hear your thoughts and coverage of the Actman situation (if you cover it). I just started to watch you with all of the Diablo coverage, but everything I've seen from you has been incredibly thorough and easy to watch. Good stuff!

[@DeetotheDubs]

He's also a voice actor. Most recently he was Pucci in JoJo's.

[@TopTwom]

The Act Man may be a gaming channel, but that situation is not about gaming in the slightest. Yong is here to report gaming-related news, not KZbin drama.

[@Impurity41]

Yongyea generally stays away from drama. But he is my favorite gaming news channel by far.

[@joelh3030]

what act man situation?

[@trashdakid3682]

​@TheMasterZar I understand that, but that situation started with gaming reviews and turned into KZbin drama. if Yongyea only covers gaming news, then I can see why he won't make a video on it.

[@erlanddrow7950]

The odd thing is he probably would have had some sympathizers if he only targeted Bungie instead of also damages other small creators

[@CyanDumBell_MC]

Now I hope KZbin get sued for their abusable DMCA

[@khaychi]

In the case of The Act Man, KZbin even sided with the abuser to cancel his channel.

[@nabusvco]

Hey at least he proved that the copyright system on youtube is a complete shitshow.

[@four-en-tee]

Nazo's lawyer explaining to the court that his client was just doing a little trolling

[@sergie2822]

lol didn't expect that, how he didn't like how he said "yong out" so does it again. 😂👌 Edit: Aw he edited it out. 😭

[@HeyLookImGerman]

KZbin needs to be sued for facilitating this abuse. This wouldn't have happened if the company spent even a second verifying these takedown requests.

[@PolishedPotato]

They should sue youtube as well for not authenticating the copyright strikes against their own content. Yt has a lot more money then this kid. Sue em both

[@AlanPayne.]

*Now we need Justice for THEACTMAN*

[@LightsCameraJake]

The fact that KZbin allows this to happen is scary.

[@greed1914]

Retaliating because he got caught the first time now means he is getting sued for more money than he probably has.

[@tallman11282]

This is more proof as to why those filing copyright claims should have to show proof that they own the content and show evidence that it's an actual violation of copyright law (i.e. not fair use, etc.) and KZbin should verify there is a violation before a copyright strike is issued. It is all to easy for people and companies to abuse the copyright claims system.

[@md_vandenberg]

Hey Bungie, be sure to toss a lawsuit at KZbin, because it's their useless copystrike system that let this happen in the first place.

[@alexey635able]

A brilliant example how violence leads to even more violence.

[@potandpoliticswithmr.broph1420]

I hope they use this case and discovery to set up to sue KZbin for gross negligence leading to monetary losses and brand damage at the least.

[@1tastiger1]

Well, if Bungie wanted to foster some good will, they could turn this into a class action lawsuit and bring on the KZbinrs that were targeted too, a big corporation fighting on the side of the little man and their loyal fans!

[@sabaradrawer]

I hope this puts things in perspective for the people in KZbin headquarter.

[@protostar5946]

Hope this eventually happens to Quantum TV.

[@JackFoxtrotEDM]

Lol was watching this and mid-vid it went unavailable. Glad it’s been fixed though. Anyways, can I just say this guy has some massive fucking balls for copyright striking Bungie themselves?

[@SiPakRubah]

Probably they're too stupid to realized it, and thank god that one hit their own nose

[@LoveFlappy]

It’s not balls it’s the lack of brains.

[@EnigmaBarry]

I hate Copyright strikes. There's no punishment for a false filing. It's also very easy to file and disadvantageous for the defendant who has to provide their real name and address to appeal (Although I believe a Lawyer can file on your behalf) while the plantiff doesn't. Thanks for talking about this YongYea. Also, you didn't edit out your outro retake. LITERALLY UNWATCHABLE!!!

[@IcyWingsLetsPlays]

So... I have a question. If this guy decides to NOT pay BUngie and retaliates in a self-destructive way, what would happen?

[@lyoko348]

I dunno myself, but if the dude commits self deletion, it either gets tossed or the bill is passed on to family. Hopefully someone who knows better comes and answers.

[@Bird_Dog00]

If he refuses to pay, he gets the debt forcefully collected from him. If he doesn't have to assets to cover the debt, he has to declare bancruptcy. If he doesn't comply with the law a court can as an ultima ratio hold him in contempt and throw him behind bars until he complys. Not sure what you mean with "rataliates in a self-destructive way". But that might realy quickly reach a point where he would then also face criminal charges.

[@Leo-pu2ru]

@@Bird_Dog00 he means commit not breathing

[@IcyWingsLetsPlays]

@@Bird_Dog00 Persona 3 himself, commit not breathing, self deletion... I really don't think KZbin will be happy if I say the word outright. I know the debt might be pulled from his assets or if not enough the rest is lost but that might leave a "stain" on Bungie.

[@playetplayer9103]

They should sue youtube for 1billon dollars for all kinds of damages, and more even if the number gets downgraded it would leave a court precedent, so that nobody abuses the system anymore or youtube improves it

[@TheKiroshi]

Morally? Absolutely. KZbin has a responsibility to make sure their legal contracts are met. Legally? As long as youtube continues to say "but we don't agree with what he did, and it wasn't our staff" they can pay their way out of any contemporary judge. All you'd really need to change that, is an America judge who believe it's still wrong. (Challange 100, impossible difficulty)

[@NicholasSalay]

He’s gonna have to declare bankruptcy straight up. Though this is fraud outright, so really may end up with prison time too

[@KindaGhostyy]

Does youtube just not get in contact with the copyright holder to verify that they did indeed mean to do this?

[@HighMaxDesmo]

I really hope Bungie goes after KZbin to fix issues like this in the future. So people like Actman never have to deal with this type of garbage ever again.

[@Noname-ol8ef]

Ill be honest they probably won't because they are no match for google and yt even with sony. Its a multi million dollar company VS a multi BILLION dollar company. I don't expect much.

[@HighMaxDesmo]

@@Noname-ol8ef While that is true, i feel like they still have the best chance and the best reason to go after youtube.

[@Seraphim09x]

This off the heels of the quantum/act man situation...KZbin is the biggest evil here and needs to be sued...

[@jrock6426]

Not gonna lie I actually respect Bungie because they’re actually taking good care of their game even if they do some wrong

[@DragonKnight90001]

Gotta give credit where its due.

[@TheKiroshi]

Not a big fan of Destiny-era bungie, but I still appreciate how hard they work to keep their project going. Destiny 1/2 would absolutely be "in 10 years of development hell" if it wasn't bungie working though those problems. Some respect, but bungie is also pretty scummy when alone too.

[@DragonKnight90001]

@@TheKiroshi that’s fair enough and honestly for me there’s not that many games that I’m interested in that are coming out this year or I have to wait because they are still in development, I don’t like the things bungie have done or are doing but destiny keeps me entertained it’s one of those games where sometime in the future I’ll look back and think of the fun memories I had with it. That being said sometimes it takes scum to deal with scum unfortunately not a pretty sight but sometimes it’s the only option.

[@larrytheassdestroyer4149]

@@TheKiroshi I don’t really find bungie scummy

[@prime_optimus]

Have you even played Destiny 2?

[@300IQPrower]

On the one hand if Bungie was never providing their music to begin with at the time of sending those strikes, then it was unjust of them to strike Nazo for making it accessible. On the other hand, what a selfish POS to strike other Destiny music channels, which makes it clear he's not upset about the music not being available, just upset his specific uploads of the music got struck. Either way, KZbin is far more at fault than anyone else, as always.

[@tylersmith3533]

That's the thing - the stuff they took down from Nazo was literally just audio tracks that were ripped from the OST albums that Bungie sell on their store and then repeated many times and uploaded as an "Extended Mix". The stuff Bungie didn't go after from some of the other creators were the real extended versions - the 10 or 15 minute in game versions of those tracks that were shortened to 3 minutes for the OST album. Nazo played the victim because his stuff got taken down legitimately. Then he attacked his friends, other, larger creators who he was clearly envious of, and Bungie themselves.

[@300IQPrower]

@@tylersmith3533 Wow, so literally indefensible. What a clown.

[@tylersmith3533]

@@300IQPrower oh yeah, 100%. The tweets that Yong showed from the other content creators really only scratch the surface of the awful behavior on display here. There are others which offer a much more scathing indictment of Nazo's actions.

[@sleepyguy4237]

Wow and youtube gets away with it again, might as well keep abusing this system then.

[@AFellowDoktuh]

Revenge never works, it always backfires. Dude dug himself a deep hole he'll never get out of. Bungie should also sue KZbin for the broken DMCA Copyright algorithm.

[@SuperIronDan]

Please report the fact of Actman and QuantumTV

[@guardiansoulblade2673]

It's over. KZbin demonetzied The Act Man for sending them that stupid Tweet joke about doxxing KZbin employees.

[@atillanandorfuri3343]

So, to get it straight, the guy impersonated a big corporation, made that corporation look *really* bad, and was stoking up the fires of outrage on the other end, just to get back at them...and he deadass taught he can get away with it. Dude been watching way too much anime if he felt like this was a rational plan.

[@Jenkin_Jones]

This situation reminds me of the Clone Wars episode with Slick betraying the Republic forces. Acting like he was helping by keeping his brothers from being enslaved by Jedi (which is true to a large degree) but also causing them to suffer and die for the rest of the campaign on Christophsis while thinking he was doing something good. Have no idea why this was my first thing to think of a similar situation but it did.

[@TheVideogamer1004]

Just look at Act Man's situation. Perfect example of it all

[@gasad01374]

the copyright abuser was apparently in one of the cheat websites databases too, which means they were also cheating in Destiny 2. actual garbage human being

[@grease_monkey6078]

haha you gotta love it. glad to see Bungie taking action and not ignoring it. I hope Destiny fans are respectful to Bungie for being part of the team.

[@tylersmith3533]

At first look, the ruse was a good one from Nazo. They made it look legitimate enough that the community was upset with Bungie. Then Bungie went to bat for those that this clown hurt, and now I see that the whole community is on their side in a big way. This just months after they won a $15m settlement against a company that sold cheats for Destiny 2 as well. Bungie is all in on it's community. They know they have something special. The community sees that with actions like this. That's not to say they're perfect and that every decision is best for the community, but it's a damn sight more than most do.

[@babablacksheep3950]

Bungie did it only because it affect them as well...

[@Gazooka]

At this point KZbin saying the usual bs excuse for not hiring manual reviewers for the copyright system because it needs a lot of man hours to do (and thus money to hire people) is bollocks, they can afford the people to do it but they would rather snort away the profit they make off us than use it to help us.

[@D0S81]

is this wat it takes for youtube to sort its shit out. thousands of creators, including ones that bring them tons of revenue, go through this constantly, but now that Bungie has been a ''victim'' of someone with no proof of authority, striking their content, will youtube do something about it? if they do, thats a good thing, but also shtty cuz it shows whos interests they have at heart, and isnt the creators that got them where they are in the first place.

[@Ko700el]

This entire thing reminds me seeing cops go through the red light with zero fucks given to the rest of the traffic to go and get coffe BUUUUT when YOU do it with the incoming car being 1km away and the cops see you then YOU are the MONSTER who risks mass death for your negligence and should be punished because of the LAW that should be taken seriously AT ALL TIMES... The hypocricy of this entire matter is off the charts

[@Kloxterz]

How is the little guy gonna pay the 7M tho? KZbin should be sued too anyway

[@xxprototypexx5056]

They should have sued KZbin for even allowing copyright to be abused. Yeah, the guy who did all that is in the wrong, and is very much morally reprehensible, but if it weren't for KZbin copyright system being so exploitable(to the point one guy could impersonate a company and copyright strike their own work), none of this would have even happened.

[@koruhyekyo783]

I think KZbin should put in place a system that takes copyrighted material and notify the owner of that content. if they want the monotization directly sent to them as compensation for not getting your permission in the first place.

[@brightenblack207]

Yong you okay? Sound is gone this time Edit: Guess I clicked too fast lol KZbin just being as stupid as ever

[@AegixDrakan]

Ooookayyy WOW. This just plain exemplifies the saying "play stupid games, win stupid prizes". What the heck is *wrong* with that guy?! 0_o

[@CorruptLeviathan]

great content, thanks for the upload. Side note, that wind sock on your mic is way bigger than Im used to seeing, had me distracted af lmao

[@jerryhu9005]

Copyright abuse on KZbin? I'm shocked SHOCKED anyone would do that on this site I tell you

[@ijl7514]

The problem isn't necessarily that KZbin's system is broke, rather it's the copyright law itself that is broken. In order for KZbin to keep its "safe harbor", they have to comply with every takedown they receive. If they refuse, they can open themselves up to the liability of the copyright infringement. Also, there are millions of youtube users and creators, and there simply isn't manpower to evaluate every single claim for accuracy because each one would be an hours (or days) long investigation.

[@Bird_Dog00]

I very much doubt that the law requires them to accept claims from unveryfied sources. I'm also not convinced that setting up some sort of (semi-) automated system for veryfication is realy unfeasible for a company with the kind of IT ressources Google has access to.

[@ijl7514]

@@Bird_Dog00 the law absolutely does (17 usc 512(c)(1)(C)) require them to accept claims from unverified sources in order to keep their safe harbor. This isn't unique to YT either, it applies to any website hosting content. And again, even IF verification was feasible, if KZbin is wrong then they risk liability from the copyright holder

[@Bird_Dog00]

@@ijl7514 I don't speak legaleese, but I haven't found any paragraf stating "...must accept copyright claims from any random, unveryfied yahoo claiming to be the copyright holder" i did find this: "3 Elements of Notification (A)To be effective under this subsection, a notification of claimed infringement must be a written communication provided to the designated agent of a service provider that includes substantially the following: (i) A physical or electronic signature of *a person authorized* to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed." Since the law requires the person submiting the claim to identify themselfs as authorized to act in this role, my common sense tells me that this implys a right - if not an outright duty - of the recipent to verify the the identity of the claimant. If however, you are correct and the law does indeed require YT to accept claims from unveryfied sources, then the law is retarded and everyone who wrote it and/or voted for it should be beaten green and blue with the stupid stick...

[@ijl7514]

@@Bird_Dog00 exact! The law is stupid and terrible! It's been broken for a while and we need legislators, regardless of country, to make changes

[@Rasip]

Finally someone is getting even a slap on the wrist for abusing youtubes idiotic DMCA system.