Destiny (Aba and Kidology) VS FD Signifier | Part 1 of 3 - Breaking down the drama

I was notified that FD blocked Destiny after 24 hours.
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[@chicayess]

Themis really ended on a cliffhanger 😢

[@ThemisThoth]

😭😭😮‍💨

[@Tru1Tani]

For as long as I could comprehend, my mom has been living below her means and she's still broke and we still don't have have property/businesses/investment portfolios to pass down. You can live below your means all you want, that doesn't mean you're ever going to step out of debt

[@tessy28]

I actually kind of agree. Living below your means only works for so long until you can't anymore. At some point you just need to increase your income. I was only able to buy an investment property when I gained extra income. My business however I was able to start without any income. It depends on the type of business you start and the services you offer. Yes though it's much better to approach life both trying to increase income and live below means.

[@876me7]

Killer Mike laid out a multi prong approach, which included living below your means and Getting and education or a trade. Getting an education or trade increases earning capacity as you have a skill to leverage. He didn’t pose living below your means as a solution in and of itself. It’s meant to be one factor amongst many. Studies show getting an education, getting a career, getting married and then having children, in that order of accomplished substantially lowers one’s chances of living in poverty.

[@KimmminemWest]

Is she disabled or something? Why didn't she invest any of that covid money ?

[@Xara_K1]

Poverty is engineered. You won't save your way out of something that's engineered. You have to address it systemically. And I'm sure your mom could use money better than Bezos if she earned what she was actually worth. I've never been poor a day in my life, luckily (and I'm not saying ur mom is poor) and I have watched ppl who live below the bread line do amazing things with their money. If money was a result of hard work or ingenuity, Africans would be running the Forbes list

[@TheKayAyeShow]

I don’t think he was saying that living below your means was the cure to poverty. I think he was laying out some basic tenets that if generally followed would lead to better outcomes for most people.

[@honeybee2919]

Kay was desperately trying to avoid committing to any opinion 😂

[@zee-zm1io]

I love her but I’m getting annoyed by her lack of position

[@videofan1010]

She seems like a person who feels they don't know enough about the situation and doesn't feel comfortable making a statement.

[@z333star]

@@zee-zm1io agree she makes good points occasionally but is always playing devils advocate and it makes her arguments nonsensical ..

[@RDCFemmes]

My university professor says something similar to me, it's possible to support different and even contracting opinions on the same subject

[@nmhoskins]

Her lack of a stance is annoying. I wish she would do some research on topics before she comes on the show.

[@ThatNoobie]

Thank you for getting this up relatively quickly as someone that missed the stream

[@ThemisThoth]

You are welcome 🙏

[@lindalnd90]

How do we watch the stream in full? Is it available for members?

[@MultiRomyl]

To be fair, if she's learning about these events for the first time, it's not unreasonable for her to say that she doesn't have strong opinions about this subject matter. It's fine to take some time to do your research and come to a conclusion.

[@TheKayAyeShow]

THANK YOU!!!

[@keptbygrace6221]

Personal responsibility is just as important as improving public policies. It is BOTH AND not EITHER OR.

[@TheKayAyeShow]

Agree 100%!!!!!!

[@JamieBleu]

That’s extremely true. Even though Asians are the “model minority”they take every opportunity to do both. East Asians like the Chinese are do both but south Asians like Indians focus heavily on the pulling yourself up by the bootstraps approach and it works for them because a large portion are educated immigrants coming in with a plan to succeed.

[@nanaanan4731]

@@JamieBleu yes, and “a plan to succeed” is key for us all. Of course it’s got to be the right plan, with the right focus. The point is, find those bootstraps (inside AND outside of you) and get to pullin’. 😂 This is a land filled with opportunities to take advantage of, partly because of public policies we’ve fought for and won. People come to America from all over the globe, as a result. I grew up around “bootstrap pullers,” so I’m clear that it’s a mentality and a way of life. And yes, both personal responsibility, and continually improving public policies are important.

[@Heat_Rush]

@@nanaanan4731 Yes, personal responsibilities and improving public policies is equally important, bcuz I've ubered with quite a few immigrants who say they are leaving because they can no longer make money here.

[@Apathesis0]

This is truth.

[@dedwards1515]

Black folk made Destiny feel comfortable by running to him about black issues for his opinion on it so i don't see why people are now moaning. The fact that a wh!te person is bringing up the wh!te saviour arguement to a black man is embarrassing. As for Killer Mike, he's not lying but these people need to remember that we're in a captalist society which is desgined for most to not make it big and capitalism and r@cism go hand in hand. He can say what he says but the current conditions poor black folks live in need to be actually livable, clean and not below basic. That alone would improve mindsets.

[@somebodycomelistentothispo7217]

Black men look for white mens approval so 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@yasmeen7875]

Black men ran to destiny. They need validation

[@VixxKong2]

That Destiny part is so true. If you don't want certain people to share their opinions then why do you invite them in your spaces? That tells me you're just looking for validation. If Destiny was to agree with KM instead black people from that audience would be praising him.

[@pablowall]

Hi, ignorant person here. What's the explanation on why commenting that waiting for a white savoir is cringe from a white person? Seems to me that no matter how bad your personal situation is and for what ever reason, fighting to improve it comes with no downsides. At this current point I agree more with killermike.

[@7thangelz]

lol i didn't realize i ran to destiny for advice

[@Neeks6.6]

What the.....we only get 40 minutes of show this week? What am I supposed to do for my 5 hour drive to Florida??? 😭😭😭😭

[@somebodycomelistentothispo7217]

Right!! I work 10 hour days! 😂

[@ThemisThoth]

😂😂😂

[@rockieleftwing]

😂😂

[@windowbridge]

This whole situation does not start with the Killer Mike clip. Destiny and Aba have been harassing FD Signifier for a while now because FD is a progressive and he's been growing in popularity. Themis' framing is a bit sus. I'll just cut to the chase - Destiny is a racist and Aba is a misogynist. Also Themis' stance on police brutality is a bit sus. The American police force could take on other countries militaries at this point.

[@user-et7he5mn3x]

Its not sus. Its his take.

[@strikermi9]

That funny way of saying that FD started the beef. Another FD glazer

[@pievancl5457]

After a week of these clips being up, PLEASE upload the entire vod. I want to see it in its entirety with no cuts and I don’t think I’m alone lol

[@somebodycomelistentothispo7217]

He’s doing it in 3 parts

[@pievancl5457]

@@somebodycomelistentothispo7217 yea I know, but I want the full uncut stream too. This clip was edited.

[@jayce4065]

You must be new here 🥴

[@jayce4065]

@@productioninquiry8937 exactly. That’s why I believe this is what it is. If he had planned to release the entire video he would have just left it up. I didn’t catch the end of the live so I don’t know what happened for him to decide to do it this way.

[@walterhoward5512]

In terms of the tweet response to Killer Mike's comments, I think they both make a fair point. There are some basic things that can be done to improve our situation and it is good that KM brought them up, but there are systemic issues that are preventing those in extreme poverty from even taking those steps. It's a nuanced discussion that I'm not sure we're able to have anymore.

[@KimmminemWest]

Systems my make this harder but it's not preventing people In general. Or simply based on poverty... the government just gave black people thousands upon thousands of dollars during covid..and what exactly did they invest In with that money?

[@walterhoward5512]

@@Heyu7her3 I agree. But that does raise the question of why work within the system if no matter what you're going to be at the bottom? Wouldn't your time be better spent breaking that system down or starting a new system?

[@walterhoward5512]

@@KimmminemWest What thousands of dollars? I got 2k in a stimulus check, but that's nothing.

[@sepulcher8263]

​@@KimmminemWest I didn't invest in a damn thing. And that's my fault.

[@CuddlyGrizzyBear]

​@@KimmminemWest you mean the stimulus checks that every American got while most were unemployed? Depending on your state, 1500 can't even cover rent. What did you do with your stimmy?

[@Angbwillinspireu]

I was here for the live. It was great, so I am back. Themis your experience in law REALLY lends something balanced and nuanced to your channel; Kay looked fabulous and came through-she is always laser focused & posed; a joy to have as BW presence on these topics. Petti gave thought provoking great retort, because the chat and live call-ins where moving different. It was a provocative live only you & your team could pull off. I reeeealy missed Anna' throughout this live. Thank you all for giving: grown, mature YT❤

[@ThemisThoth]

Anna was definitely here coordinating. He helped tremendously on this one.

[@TheKayAyeShow]

Thank you! And thank you for your kind words and support!

[@twoelles1056]

I’m HERE for this series 🍿🍿🍿

[@ThemisThoth]

😭😭😮‍💨

[@narrator6896]

I feel like y'all missed the biggest thread. Destiny implied in his FIRST quote tweet that FD is more racist than the KKK. Destiny is completely wrong. Killer Mike's take WAS ENTIRELY garbage. It's one thing to say, people should live below their means, get educated and have family units. But he said that as the cure for the black community which IS a condemnation of black people as though we don't have common sense and our circumstances are the result of individual choices.

[@NamasteInYourLane]

All ima say is, im not listening to yall saying to cancel destiny when some of yall are probably the sameones who elevated kevin Samuels. Lol Only time yall care about racism is when it's directed towards black men. If destiny, vaush, Fuentes, and whoever else was only directing their racism towards black womem, this wouldn't even be an issue and we all know it.

[@Ayommari]

Exactly!!!

[@iwasbornunderwater]

😏 That part...

[@bres.4806]

Facts‼️

[@hild-demongoddess7498]

Whew facts upon facts. That’s why I’m radio silent on this topic.

[@tm7517]

The standard for being not racist can’t be disagreeing with open white nationalists/nazi sympathizers. There is a lot of racism between being not racist to being so racist you identify as a white nationalist. So while destiny doesn’t identify as a white nationalist, destiny hangs out with white nationalists in his house. Destiny doesn’t identify as a white nationalist but he makes videos of him and white nationalists hanging out laughing. Destiny invites white nationalists over his house and eats dinner with white nationalists willingly. And he did campaign to say the n word and admitted that he regularly said the n word. I don’t know how a white man who hangs out with white nationalists and who uses the n word so much that he advocated publicly for using it whenever he wanted isn’t a racist?

[@BenterKoux]

I am from the destiny bubble and I love the way Themis is laying out the lore.😂 I subscribe just for that, since most KZbinrs who commentate on stuff get wrong or leave things out in the first few minutes. Also your wording I like, very precise and direct straight to the point.

[@tm7517]

The young man saying destiny debates and debunks Fuentes is accurate but incomplete. Destiny debunks Fuentes sometimes, but other times he records him and Fuentes hanging out, laughing, and joking. So it is accurate to say Destiny sometimes hangs out with white nationalist Fuentes. He has had white nationalist Fuentes over his house, had his wife get white nationalist Fuentes food and drinks.

[@Joyful_Smiles]

I know a lot of Black teachers and college professors who are homeless. They earned their multiple degrees and work really hard yet live in poverty. The problem is systemic. They literally pulled themselves up by the bootstraps, dealt with racist teachers who tried to prevent them from graduating, overcome medical crisises but gained debt, and now work in racist environments that harm children. Killamike wastes so much of our people's time and I sense he does it on purpose.

[@johnwinchester6934]

I don't believe you... most of the United States is literally in a teaching crisis because we can't find enough of them or they are quitting a couple years in. If an ex-con delivering pizzas can not be homeless people with "multiple degrees" are going to be just fine.

[@lejamesbron5880]

Most teaching jobs in American aren't known for their salaries. Perhasp they should have went for STEM, save up good money while becoming a teacher on the side or vice versa

[@ChasityXoxo]

It’s crazy y’all saying that destiny is inserting himself in black issues when you know we talk about our community in depth on KZbin as well as tiktok. Everyone sees it!!!!! It’s a glass house!!!! True enough Destiny do say some racist stuff

[@amphibien8264]

Exactly. It's insane that people believe they're having an A and B conversation on the internet. People make themselves public figures, they speak in public because they love the attention, and then they act like they were having private conversations where outsiders aren't supposed to draw an opinion on it.

[@Selanaxfanx]

@@productioninquiry8937 bro at this point just exchange emails with eachother. Y’all are a mess

[@ChasityXoxo]

@@productioninquiry8937 I think it’s time to do away with the “don’t insert yourselves in black conversations” bit. We share with world with everyone they see our faults at this point.

[@ChasityXoxo]

@@amphibien8264 exactly!!!!

[@ChasityXoxo]

@@productioninquiry8937 I agree with that. But specifically Destiny should own up to the things he says. However I don’t agree that his initial comment on Killer Mikes video was wrong. We have to to get to a point that we don’t let the systematic oppressions make us feel lien we can’t accomplish anything. We have to make our own American dream our own way

[@cydneywilliams6737]

This is genuinely one of your worst takes. You're not fairly describing what fd signifier says nor posting that portion of his video. He says that what killer Mike said in the video is perfectly fine in itself. He continues saying that Killer Mike's comments are the kinds of things that black people talk about in church, home, at the barbershop, etc. His point was that killer Mike though as a public figure has the responsibility and the opportunity to talk about systemic issues in public and instead of doing that he decided to talk about pulling up your pants and bootstrapping as if black people haven't been doing that for 400 years. Black people are not sitting around blaming the white man for our lack of success, but that is what killer Mike's video would lead you to believe. That's the problem that FD signifier has with Killer Mike. In addition Mike has changed his position. And his music he's a revolutionary talking about killing your Masters but you put him on TV he talks about how black people need to work harder to become good capitalists. These were fd signifiers complaints about Mike.

[@Soy__Milk]

I’m so glad I was able to see this live I think this was the perfect depiction of why I love your channel

[@ThemisThoth]

Thank you 🙏

[@Karkitts]

Themis you sick for this cliffhanger man. cant wait for the other parts

[@ThemisThoth]

Thank you 🙏

[@LizNeptune]

Themis, you need me on here because I know all these people and I am IN all of their business!! lmao

[@TheKayAyeShow]

You should call in!!!!!!

[@OhNaNa2012]

The amount of people who are saying they don’t who FD signifier is crazy- he’s the only reason I know who any of the involved people are 😂😂

[@YoutubeOverTV]

From what I remember from the live, destiny basically said he wants to be able to say the N-word the same way black people do because it's now cool and he thinks it's should therefore not be considered racist behaviour anymore or hurt people's feeling anymore. He realizes we re-appropriated the word as a community and because of this he feels entitled to access to it. He used a bunch of words he thought would sound good but that's what I got from it 👀 🤐. Anyway, I'll wait for the replay to check if i understood him right but yikes... The entitlement...

[@sugarwaterpurple5280]

Black people use the word while talking around and to non-black people. Its a constant in rap, hip hop, which is now the most popular music in the world. To me, if we had a problem with it, we should have removed it from our lexicon - instead we promote it. Black people use it irreverently, but we want non-black people to revere it, even in private conversations? It's ridiculous at this point, and quite frankly it's not a hill I would die on. There are bigger, more important racial issues to deal with.

[@YoutubeOverTV]

@@sugarwaterpurple5280 it's weird how people always give conditions to this very clear boundary that was set by a group of people to justify not respecting it... I know girls who call each other the B-word. That doesn't mean everybody else outside that group calls them all the B-word. No matter how stupid or disgusting I think that is, I don't take the right to call them that nor do I assume I have it. It's among themselves and the boundary there is very clear. And people do this with many insults in groups that they defined. We defined our group as being our race and our rules apply same as in every other group. Acting like somehow this gives people the right to take access and demand we not be offended is disingenuous (because I know it's not stupid but just people acting dumb)... And nobody cares about private conversation that nobody hears... Like how would we even know 😅

[@sugarwaterpurple5280]

@@KZbinOverTV He literally specified in private conversation, so people are getting mad over nothing. The problem is "we" constantly allow people to cross the boundary based on arbitrary reasons. Why can Eminem say it or J-Lo say it, but not Destiny? And who is "we"...does that include biracial people? The only time it would make sense to take offense is if it specifically used as a direct insult.

[@yugfus]

​@@sugarwaterpurple5280 Eminem and J-Lo shouldn't be saying the N-word.

[@zarario4444]

​@@yugfus Not that deep. There are bigger things to worry about than a word.

[@Callmecapybara]

I'm here as a Destiny fan and I just gotta give my respect to what are obviously 2 very good business people. Wish you nothing but luck and look forward to the other parts!

[@TheKayAyeShow]

Thank you 😊

[@KristLove]

Oh, Kay's hair is gorgeous in this video😍

[@TheKayAyeShow]

Thanks love 😊

[@RobGoSlow]

Hey from destiny's community. Here to like and subscribe, thanks for posting this series.

[@TheKayAyeShow]

Thanks for supporting!

[@GetIntoTheBLACK]

Imma tell Kay what someone else told me…if they do racist things even one they are racist. That does not mean they are an extreme racist but they are still a racist. #period

[@videofan1010]

Black people CAN improve themselves in this current system of things, but systematic factors definitely make it easy for personal attainment to go away.

[@MyronsBaldspotLovesKevSamuels]

Anyone can choose to be a victim of the system I or go around it. Once the excuses stop, people rise

[@videofan1010]

​@@MyronsBaldspotLovesKevSamuels This is not entirely true. I'm sorry. White people (as a group). World governments (for example) have shown time and time again, if society wants you handicapped or gone they will get rid of you. You opinion is privileged and overly optimistic.

[@nik-at-nite]

@@MyronsBaldspotLovesKevSamuels To be fair, plenty people can, and do, acknowledge the barriers while still still working their butt of to go around or through (since not everybody’s circumstances are the same) them

[@amphibien8264]

@@nik-at-nite I don't think the crowd that does the absolute most about complaining about the systems and barriers are these hard working people you're talking about. Most of the people online are losers who just want to blame their failures on the rest of the world.

[@emg.9246]

@@videofan1010 and your comment is shrouded in victim hood and self pity.

[@Merchantwun]

FD is not obligated to debate a white man who's trolling him about Black issues. Why do people keep saying he should have to, and then do it for free. This is not solely about "talking about Black issues". Yall kidding me? He said the guy was akin to the KKK. A group that historically murdered, terrorized-I don't have to finish that sentence. THEN, this man donated to a fund that is aimed at occupying a community that had little say in how they're neighborhood is being policed. But... you're telling me FD is wrong for attempting to leverage his position to fund the fight against this occupation. Some a yall trip me out in this space. And this is without me even me taking on the n-word issue.

[@somebodycomelistentothispo7217]

Black men can’t debate for the most part and they call anyone who speaks truth a racist. Black men don’t want WM saying the N word but they don’t care if WW say it 🤦🏾‍♀️. I get called a racist by mammies and dusties all the time and I’m a whole BW married to a BM with black boys 😂

[@penelopesanchez1679]

No lies spoken. Black people really need to look at who the consider “allies”.

[@KimmminemWest]

He also didn't want to debate or discuss the issues with kidology a BLACK woman. And he had all kinda dumb excuses.

[@KimmminemWest]

Fd is also a grifter ... he a agrees that trans people should be allowed to demolish women's rights.

[@penelopesanchez1679]

@@KimmminemWest He doesn’t have to debate anybody. He has a platform where he gives his opinions just like all the others.

[@TheFlorist777]

I voted Kay because honestly I truly dont care. It all sounds childish and useless conversation to be had. . . WHAT I will say is Cyn G was right. If Black Women can strive and conquer (since they like to compare) while being Black AND WOMAN , I think our counterparts can do it as well. I slightly agree with Destiny just because right now in todays time being a man has more weight EVEN with racism going on. Can you add a Cyn G button . lol

[@jayce4065]

I totally understand Kay’s decision making style. She has to know all the information and rule out all alternatives before coming to a conclusion. While others only need a little info and rely on their intuition.

[@TheKayAyeShow]

THANK YOU! I don’t want anyone saying, potentially damaging things about me online based on one snippet… So I try not to do that to other people either… I try to keep my comments and opinions based on what I know for sure…. Like the use of the “n-word” by white people…I am firmly against… But is every white person who has ever said it worthy of being called a racist forever? I would have to know more about each individual case.

[@jayce4065]

@@TheKayAyeShow This decision making style will make you hesitant to make a decision. They key is to know yourself and recognize when a situation calls for a more swift response. I have this style as well (i took an assessment at work). It listed Lawyer and auditor as a fitting profession ( I am the latter🤷🏽‍♀️). My sister is opposite. Although her intuition is usually right. I can usually slow her down before reacting so she can be sure to have an iron clad case. People will try to switch up in you don’t nail them down.

[@TheKayAyeShow]

@@productioninquiry8937 I totally understand that POV! I think the reason the n-word is a little different than other racial slurs is because unfortunately it has become widely used in entertainment…to the point that some people think it’s “just a word”… I don’t know of any other racial slurs that are seen in that way (if there are, let me know which ones). That’s why I said I’d need to know more. If someone hasn’t said or done or shown themselves to be racist in any way…but then they sing along with a song and say the word…I wouldn’t automatically label them racist. If they said it to disparage Black people and had views that Black people were ‘less than’ and not worthy of respect…then I’d absolutely say they were a racist.

[@TheKayAyeShow]

@@jayce4065 people have asked if I was a lawyer or studying law lol. I don’t like to make quick decisions unless I have to. Under pressure, I’m really good at deciding and going with my gut… But in situations like these, where the stakes are not high and we are talking opinions of KZbinrs…I feel very comfortable gathering as much information as possible or simply saying “I don’t know”

[@TheKayAyeShow]

@@jayce4065 do you know the name of the assessment you took?

[@FeIdrance]

FD Signifier blocked Destiny 12 HOURS after unblocking him, in the same day. FD signifier didn't give Destiny "4 days", that was just what he said in tweets.

[@epiphanyarina366]

He gave him 4 days to donate whether he’s blocked is totally separate

[@KimmminemWest]

​@@epiphanyarina366no its not separate it was a condition of the donation

[@FeIdrance]

@@epiphanyarina366 ^ what Kim said. The actual sequence of events takes reddit level lore to go across all channel to confirm: -FD Signifier claims he will talk to Destiny for a fee -Destiny agrees to 10k and that FDS needed to unblock him to work the details -FDS unblocks Destiny and BLOCKS him again 12 hours after unblocking him -Destiny sees he was re-blocked before he could initiate anything -Destiny asks TreeOfLogic for pro-police orgs in Atlanta (Tree was a cop and lives/lived in that location) -FDS tweets on the 10th and 12th(3) bringing up the money/donation. -Destiny donates to Atlanta Police Foundation. -FDS tweets antagonistic stuff about Aba and other black Destiny followers. Most people seem to be on the same page with the events after these that were related to Aba.

[@TheFelicia82]

From what was shown, it seems that Killer Mike’s advice was related to advice he gave some children/youth. It seemed like good advice to give to kids because many people make those errors. Following that advice won’t necessarily make anyone rich but it can help them avoid many difficulties, even in the system that exists. What advice would other people suggest he tell kids?

[@dreiaparratt787]

Because it's ish that black folks are already doing and teaching their children? Because bootstrap mentality isn't going to combat the inequalities structures that can take your life's work over night.

[@ladyt266]

Thank you for getting this up so quickly😮 greatly appreciated it ❤

[@ThemisThoth]

I appreciate you noticing this 😭😭😭

[@ladyt266]

@@ThemisThoth no problem😊😂

[@CJ-jv4jx]

How can a white guy donating to the police not make you decide…

[@zarario4444]

Destiny can donate to whoever he chooses.

[@TheKayAyeShow]

Because you’d have to think that the police were a racist organization THEN donate in order for that solely to make you a racist. If you don’t think the police are racist, and you donate…it doesn’t necessarily mean you’re a racist. There’s a “mens rea” that would need to be evident. There’s someone on this post advocating for BW to “back the blue”… Are they also racist? Are people who call the police racists? Where do you draw the line?

[@emg.9246]

Police are very needed. Who else will keep bandits who commit crimes in check???

[@ldh385]

This Kay person was annoying af; idk if this pollyanna routine was intentional but it was a waste of everyone's time.... and this was edited too 🥴 I know that live was tedious to start

[@bres.4806]

I hate when he has her on. She adds nothing and she’s always oh so oblivious. What’s the point if you have no opinion or information to share? Like do you even care?

[@somebodycomelistentothispo7217]

She never knows anyone or about anything. I get confused to why she’s on the panel 🤦🏾‍♀️🤣

[@TheKayAyeShow]

Thank you all for your continued support despite finding me annoying. I really appreciate it.

[@TheKayAyeShow]

Also, who is Pollyanna?

[@CiaoColeG]

​@TheKayAyeShow Pollyanna is the central character of a classic children's book. There's been multiple movie adaptations. The character is extremely naive and optimistic. Describing someone as a "pollyanna" is saying they don't understand how the world really works.

[@somebodycomelistentothispo7217]

Themis I was about to turn my back on you quick when I couldn’t find this live!! 😩😩🤣

[@ThemisThoth]

😭😬😂

[@levelupsinglemom6143]

It think it's important to highlight that while it's understandable to view Kay as indifferent and non committal her choice to thoroughly examine the matter instead of taking a hard stance led to her asking INCREDIBLE questions once the players showed up. She brought A LOT to the discourse IMO

[@TheKayAyeShow]

Thank you! I was asking FD that because I’m still trying to figure out why anyone would watch and support someone they don’t like/ or view as a racist… KZbin has SO MANY amazing things, I can’t imagine purposely spending time watching people I don’t like talk for hours lol!

[@solitarymaninblack]

Destiny isn't an ally. FDsignifier has a great channel. People in the comments going all Candace Owens.

[@RampagingChipmunk]

I’m not a super regular viewer of this channel, but from what I have seen, there is something of a strange and sort of unexpected difference between the views/positions of all four of the regular contributors and the commenters. The commenters seem waaaay more conservative than Themis, Petti, Anna, or Kay. I guess if there’s a big overlap between his viewers and Cyn G’s, that would probably explain it, but it’s still pretty unusual to see.

[@KimmminemWest]

It's not great because he is against women.

[@edmaldonado8207]

The people who don't agree with FDS are going all Candace Owens? Really?

[@Fe22234]

The lefts inability to distinguish between an imperfect ally and an enemy is the height of privilege and will be our downfall.

[@strikermi9]

FD is a joke and he need to get exposed

[@GotJerf]

BLESSED KAY I feel so bad she had to sit through tales of our silly e-drama

[@chocolatebeauty9131]

Really Theymusss😡😡😡leaving us high and dry like this!!! Thanks 🎩⚖️ Waiting for part 2 like….🍿🍿🍿👀

[@ThemisThoth]

Hahahahaha

[@yeenevaevalie]

oh god please, why are you drip feeding us this 10/10 content please upload the other partsss!!!!

[@GetIntoTheBLACK]

18:11 I’m confused when you purchase something don’t you pay first? Why would destiny get unblocked then give payment that’s backwards

[@teet2649]

*MUSIC IS WAAAAAAY BETTER!* Thank YOU! And Power ✊ to the puff 😍😍😍

[@ThemisThoth]

❤

[@TheKayAyeShow]

❤❤❤

[@SandySavingTheseNegr0esDay]

Interesting how FD said Destiny has been blocked for over a year but he was able to comment on the post?? Am I missing something? Someone needs to call Mariah, someone is OBSESSED. Isn't the point of blocking someone that you can't see them and they can't see you😮. How does he know so much about Destiny

[@Karkitts]

i mean to be fair, if you log out of twitter or even switch to a side account no one knows about then you can still view a persons account. blocks dont count if youre logged out or its a side account! i do agree that there is a level of obsession on both sides tho

[@Karkitts]

forgot to add that sometimes ppl uninvolved in the situation will just privately forward screenshots to the ppl that have each other blocked. it happens!

[@SandySavingTheseNegr0esDay]

@@Karkitts right but if I block someone why sneak to there account? And it I think they are using another account...I'm blocking that too. It just doesn't make sense to me. Cynthia was live yesterday and said. "If you don't say it to my face, I can't hear you." And I agree. People send Cynthia clips and she ignores them. Just because it's sent to you doesn't mean you have to look at it. I mean, FD KNEW lot about about Destiny and when he showed up....he didn't even talk about FD.

[@reedareeda3045]

HERE FOR IT!!!!🎉

[@ThemisThoth]

🙏🤎

[@JayThaInformant]

So, she can't make a SOUND JUDGEMENT? AYESHOW c'mon

[@SHIVAAAA100]

What was the point of having Kay instead of Petti on here? What does she offer to this video?

[@TheKayAyeShow]

Serving fro 💁🏾‍♀️🤩 But I’m glad Petti came!

[@vyedarden1174]

​@@TheKayAyeShow giirrl...😂😂-🤣

[@TheKayAyeShow]

@@vyedarden1174 people act like I just show up uninvited and unannounced…lol! I’m part of the Wednesday show!!!lmao!

[@vyedarden1174]

@@TheKayAyeShow - Precisely. My original intended response was, literally, "you CLEARLY don't watch the show on Wednesday". 😂

[@TheKayAyeShow]

@@vyedarden1174 Then the same people will be upset or annoyed/etc…then say or imply that I’M uninformed…about the goings on of other random KZbinrs lol… When they don’t even know why I’m on a channel they’re currently watching 🤔 The irony.

[@tapbanister]

Donating to Atlanta police with all the horrors that have come out about them is a No Go. Google some of the violations they do to black women. How is this even up for discussion? And to make things worse, the dude did the $10K as a joke. He just said "F**k black people" 😂😂 The sisters and brothers in this vid must be getting that bag. Do your thing and stack your paper, but that donation shit by the white boy is wild. He lost all points with me after that. This is a weird situation I'm watching.

[@Sunnyd222]

I agree. I don’t like that he donated .

[@epiphanyarina366]

Exactly! Coming across so damn docile it’s crazy that this is even happening in this space.

[@emg.9246]

What’s a real no go is the promotion of defunding the police. Not all Atlanta police officers are bad. Just like bw like yourself would tell me that not all bmails are bad. It’s sick that bw like yourself are against cops even though bw need them and call them the most when there bmail counter part gets out of line

[@teal1010]

“Not all Atlanta police officiate bad!” Where are the “good police officers” that hold the “bad police officers” responsible for their crimes that give the good police officers a “bad name”? You’re so busy throwing a tantrum about black women, you won’t notice when a police officer violates your rights!

[@mondingo67]

Yep. Anybody doing sheeet like donating to the police in Atlanta is r(acist af.

[@2damecuteUK]

There is no right or wrong, Killer Mike is getting older and has a different stans on life and what’s progress for the black community. FD can feel some kind of way about it but he should also understand that people can change their minds and opinions especially as you get older. FD issue is that he let Destiny get to him via the reply which lead to petty drama instead of holding his opinion and keeping it moving. Abba being petty is nothing new.

[@denewashington5983]

We changed the intro music- how log have I been gone 😢?

[@TheKayAyeShow]

This was the first time with the different music 😊

[@jithwheels]

You should have played the clips of destiny’s stream you had to provide context. This whole thing is just about their mutual hate for each other. Destiny calling out FD for the original killer Mike tweet, is a result of years of mutual antagonism. To equate this to racism is crazy.

[@TheKayAyeShow]

YEARS?! See I knew there had to be something missing..: I was totally lost…

[@Embee33]

Themis you should put someone on here who understands all of this better. Cause Destiny has said some questionable thi gs about black folks that can come off quite racist. Thats why FD doesnt F with him and also Destiny's fans harrass FD constantly.

[@KimmminemWest]

FD is not worried about destiny being racist he's afraid to discuss other debate his ideas and ideologies.

[@toddpacker4683]

That’s not the reason fd won’t debate him, you just made that up, fd gave a completely different reason for why he won’t debate people like vaush and destiny. And provide some examples of him being racist

[@somebodycomelistentothispo7217]

If you are white in America your yogi g to have some racism in your dna. It’s impossible to escape. It’s in every fabric of this country. It has even made BM hate themselves and people who look like them

[@epiphanyarina366]

@@toddpacker4683 are you black

[@BlackTalkNoLimits]

Agree. I think it would be more useful to shift the conversation from is Destiny racist to are some of his ideology and policies in which he supports anti-black or racist. Dr. Ibram Kendi put that framework forward in his book How to Be an Antiracist. Even with Trump’s antics and policies, he didn’t view himself as a racist.

[@teal1010]

@25:02 “I feel like you’re not invested, as invested as I am!” I think she’s avoiding being criticized!

[@TheKayAyeShow]

Why do you believe that? I knew that not having a quick opinion about it WOULD get me criticized… And it did… So your statement doesn’t make sense.

[@teal1010]

I think you hesitate, avoid and dodge questions because you don’t want to be criticized for your answers! It’s my opinion! I explained it, but I can’t understand it for you!

[@TheKayAyeShow]

@@teal1010 that’s not correct… But believe what you must 🕊️ Thank you for your continued support. Be sure to tune in for the next part of this series…it was just posted.

[@nanaanan4731]

I think that FD Signifier being petty is what ramped this up and kept this going. Not sure why he blocked Destiny, in the first place, but he could’ve chosen to simply ignore the initial “tag” from Destiny and move on with life. It’s the pettiness on FD’s part, for me. Then he tried triangulating Aba into the petty to expand his reach/increase his influence/solidify his point. Turns out Aba agrees with Destiny. Oh well. But instead of stopping there, FD can’t seem to stop himself and is continuing with more petty. FD is being PettyBetty, and now his feelings are hurt😢. Let it go, bruh.

[@vyedarden1174]

EXACTLY! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@beewest5704]

Thats just his MO. He even blocked Kidology & sent his fans after her.

[@muse5581]

There's a lesson in here...but most of this is pure distraction. Looking forward to part 2 or 3 because I want to see FD's final thoughts. But I'm disappointed in what I've seen so far.

[@g.g.6761]

Now Destiny's weirdo cult members are in here saying this dude isn't racist. Ew.

[@CookBookRooks]

Love this! In regards to Kay, she’s very well spoken and poised ❤ HOWEVER , no response (or no opinion in this context) is THE response. Regardless of having “enough context or enough information”… she has made the point (intentionally or not) to refuse to answer any question posed to her based on her own biases and experiences . Does it give the gworls the “ick”? Probably. But it’s her choice to intellectually present that way online and I support her in choosing her own path!

[@TheKayAyeShow]

Thank you! I simply don’t know enough about that man to make as serious of a claim as saying he’s definitely a racist.

[@sanjai6291]

We know there are barriers and difficulties built into the system. It’s really annoying how Black folks literally by default complain about barriers when simply advised on ways to progress. It’s really defeatist and Irritating.

[@ConklinMom]

Nooooooo!!!! Turn it back on!!!!!! This was so good!!!!!😭😭😭😭

[@themusicactor]

But Destiny wasn't wrong.. whether you disagree that he should have commented or not ....his comment wasn't wrong...

[@ThemisThoth]

He comes up in part 3

so all of his comments? nah.

[@emg.9246]

@ which comments did he make that were flat out wrong ?

[@huare7946]

Edit: hey themis, are you gonna include the call ins? I hate how f.d. has the nerve to police people blackness. He called Aba an Uncle Tom outta no where, so disrespectful imo he's condesending, patronizing, and slimy. Im excited for pt2.

[@vyedarden1174]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@BlackTalkNoLimits]

I have never seen FD police folks blackness. I have seen probably 80% of his content. He does call out anti-black conservative talking points disguised as pro-black.

[@tm7517]

What killer Mike said is fine as personal advice to individuals. But it’s not a solution to the problems caused by racism. There’s the disconnect with killer Mike saying doing these things will solve black people’s problems caused by racism. No doing those things won’t solve the problems caused by racism. We know this because millions upon millions of black people already do all, most, or some of the things killer Mike suggested. And us as individuals doing those things has not and will not solve our collective problem of anti black racism. FD was right in his criticism of killer Mike. Destiny attacked FD with degrading and false racist bs about a white savior.

[@Kianarevision]

Ive watched 5 videos alone in the past few days with kay on the panel. This video, Im only 12 mins in. This is just my opinion and Im not trying to be rude but Kay never giving her opinion is annoying. The questions asked CAN be answered and she is givin enough context to answer. I dont know of she is trying to keep friends online as she grows but never having an answer just says that to me that she is not forward thinking or straight forward enough to understand what not calling something for what it is can turn into especially on platforms like this one. This is an intellectual space for conversation not a place to be unbiased. That’s the point of having a conversation right? But it’s apparent to me that not having an opinion is her opinion. Just stating my opinion. I love your content.

[@edmaldonado8207]

As a Destiny fan (most of the time) this is a very good podcast. You guys are being very fair and are being as objective as you can reasonably be which is really appreciated. I also really appreciate Kay not forming a solid opinion until she gathers the facts first. I find it very telling that there are people in the comments here complaining about that specifically. I've seen way too many people ostensibly on FDS's side having very strong opinions while getting fundamental facts wrong, most likely due to ignorance since they probably simply heard Destiny is racist and took it at face value or saw clips of him that were taken out of context. Destiny isn't racist. He's petty. He can be an asshole sometimes. And he gives way too much credit to the establishment imo. But if you actually saw his content, you wouldn't come away from it thinking he's racist. Hell, his life is pretty much a giant public spectable on the Internet for all to see, warts and all. It'd be easy to find actual shit to criticize him on rather than making shit up. FDS on the other hand, I think is intellectually lazy/dishonest, is also very petty despite the image he tries to portray, and unfortunately he has engrained himself within a certain subculture of leftists on the Internet who basically preach to the choir using their video essays from their ivory towers and stigmatize anyone who isn't in lockstep with their views, even to people who are generally fairly reasonable like Kidology. As far as I'm concerned, FDS comes across as someone who isn't at all interested in enacting any meaningful change in favor of smugly talking down to people with his very clichey Breadtube friends. After all, he couldn't have been bothered to wait more than 24 hours for 10K for something he claims to be passionate about. Don't get me wrong. Everyone in this entire Twitter interaction came out of it looking really bad imo. But you would think with how FDS likes to portray himself as "black Uncle Iroh" (his words btw) he should know better.

[@TheKayAyeShow]

!!!!!!

[@edmaldonado8207]

@@Heyu7her3 Why? What happened?

[@nik-at-nite]

@@edmaldonado8207 A number of reasons. Either not agreeing with his viewpoint, not being as radical in his viewpoint (a lot of the subscribers of this channel are very radical and support the “ab0rt black male babies” rhetoric), and BM have to earn their keep on this channel. They’ll throw tomatoes before they open their mouth and only change if you say what they want to hear lol. As a BW watching this channel for over a year, it gets a little crazy over here lol

[@alluress2020]

Such a brilliant comment. I couldn't quite put my finger on what bothered me about FD Signifer and you articulated it very well. I find Destiny's attitude towards black issues annoyingly paternalistic but this is our L for bringing him into our business, BM & BW acting like kids clamoring to be "dad's favorite." Sigh

[@edmaldonado8207]

@@alluress2020 That's fair. I actually don't even disagree that Destiny's attitude can come across as annoying paternalistic either. Unfortunately it seems like nuance is dead when it comes to conversations like this sadly.

[@blaquespan5316]

Destiny is a gamer with a gaming channel bm pulled him in to this realm of KZbin…

[@vyedarden1174]

Correct!

[@sepulcher8263]

He's much less a gamer than he is a drama/politics streamer.

[@sepulcher8263]

@@productioninquiry8937 I think so? Couldn't tell ya. I started watching him when he started talking to aba and preach.

[@ashia9945]

@@productioninquiry8937 that's correct but even early on with gaming, he started talking philosophy and then politics. Even though he plays games on streams, a lot of his content is still political or about social commentary etc all while gaming.

[@Al_lloyd]

So the background to this episode of the online left-tube skirmish isn't about "Police City" being built in Atlanta. It's about Killer Mike and his progression from campaigning for Bernie 2016 to his luke-warm support of Bernie in 2020 to standing and supporting Brian Kemp (not to mention Herschel Walker) as a man he can work with just like MLK did when he decided to work with LBJ. That turned out perfectly.

[@gy7422]

I sorry this woman babbling good lord get to point 😵

[@TheKayAyeShow]

Which point? Lol! It was a discussion…

[@toddpacker4683]

I want more dammit!

[@ThemisThoth]

Lololiol

[@yayadrew]

Not 1 of 3 Themis lol.

[@VixxKong2]

"I will come on your stream if you give 25k to..." Lol

[@its_just_me8476]

I knew Petti was gone come thru with a good pushback 🤎🖤🤎🖤

[@somebodycomelistentothispo7217]

I’m a bw and BW need to back the blue 🤷🏾‍♀️ thank u Destiny

[@epiphanyarina366]

But he didn’t back BW when he was up there tho….He also wants to be able to say the N word so u can back him on ur own

[@penelopesanchez1679]

@@epiphanyarina366 Yeah, I always give the side eye to white folk that feel they can use that word and I am a black woman that hates that word.

[@Sunnyd222]

@@epiphanyarina366 yeah lol 💯

[@emg.9246]

I agree. As bw we NEED to back the blue. ESP since bw are always quick to call Officer Brad when Tyrone got a g-n to her temple

[@west4Bmovement]

...Kay was just the wrong person to have this discussion with. SHE SITS ON THE FENCE ALL THE TIME. She doesn't know who people are. She doesn't follow shit.. I mean, why is she even there? It was just a bunch of "I don't know", "I don't know" and more "I don't know." She also said that she AGREES with FD, knowing that POLICE OFFICERS are the only men protecting BLACK WOMEN FROM BLACK MEN. Like....why is she even there? It is annoying to hear her AGREE with FD, after clearly saying that she does not know him. Like what???????

[@TheKayAyeShow]

Agree with FD about what? Just so we are clear. I said I understand why he had the feelings he had when Destiny called him out…because I didn’t think it made sense for Destiny to call him out personally.

[@west4Bmovement]

@@productioninquiry8937 DATA ON HOURS? Are you bloody serious? The rate states that Black Men unlive Black Women every 4.5 HOURS! Cyn G came on this SAME platform and said the same shit. I will not STOP supporting police because some Black man (FD) who has a hard-on for some White Man (Destiny) says that police should not be trusted. Who ELSE WILL HELP BLACK WOMEN. If you are pressed for hours.....go research them in your state and miss me with the semantics

[@west4Bmovement]

@@TheKayAyeShow You didn't think that Destiny should have called him out regarding the bloody police department???? WHAT OTHER MALE GROUP IN AMERICA ARE PROTECTING BLACK WOMEN????? Do you know that information? Or is it more "I don't knows"?????????? When Cyn was there, the other day, she mentioned this. Black Men want Black Women to turn their backs on police, and police are the only ones protecting Black Women FROM BLACK MEN. Why would you side with FD??? HAVE YOU EVEN SEEN THE SHIT HE HAS SAID ABOUT BLACK WOMEN???????.........wait, let me guess. No. You haven't. You haven't seen anything. You don't know anything.....you were never there and have no data. You don't pick sides, you don't have an opinion, you see nothing, hear nothing....but speak for hours. You DO see that FD is Black however, and said that you agreed with him. The Black Male allegiance that Black Women have, regardless of intellect is is SO WILD. So FD says that Destiny is a racist, and everyone hops on that because FD is Black and we should just trust what Black Men say because they are Black men. Lukewarm ass flex.....dead ass

[@TheKayAyeShow]

@@west4Bmovement he (Destiny) can call him out if he wants 🤷🏾‍♀️ I understand why it seems like antagonizing though… And Destiny even admitted on air that he purposely “goads” FD. Personally, I don’t know either of them or care about their beef with each other. These questions were asked of me based on things presented to me live during the stream… I don’t know any of the history of their beef or whatever. I stated multiple times on the livestream that I didn’t understand what was even going on or why. There seems to be a lot of pieces I’m not aware of because many fans of both men seem upset. But for me…? Who knows and who cares.

[@TheKayAyeShow]

@@west4Bmovement just like I understood how the tweet could have been taken offensively…I understand if you’re upset and or disagree with my thoughts on the matter. The show went over 3 hours and it’s generally supposed to be an hour-ish. I appreciate appreciate you tuning in and supporting.

[@NoName-oe4gm]

😮😮Aba reached out???🤭 Ohhhhh Themis, This is juicy! More, more, more👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Edit: Aba and Preach are boys. I’m sooooo here for this!😏

[@blaquespan5316]

We don’t need any policy our governmentally involved savior to not abandon our children, not live beyond our means, to seek education, and be more entrepreneurial… isn’t that all killer Mike was saying am I missing something? Those things have nothing to do with the system of a racism. We can do those things without even entering a court of law.

[@MickiMontana]

25:25 as a fan of Destiny, Aba, and FD, I think FD started this. I had no idea what was going on before this stream.

[@JourneyofBella331]

I agree with Killer Mike, this learned helpless and whine sympathizers has never helped us, our ancestors knew what they were up against and they still broke ground

[@12078098]

Why must people have an issue with everything!

[@Yagoforn]

great convo well thought out approach

[@TheKayAyeShow]

😊😊😊

[@RDCFemmes]

Oh this is what got Kidology depressed!

[@PrincessPowerUp]

No, this drama was just annoying. She made a video about isolation explaining the reality of living as an 'individual'

[@Selanaxfanx]

Yes, FD contributing to the loss of her income by sicking his fans to report her

[@petttroville5510]

I was so mad you privated the video, it must of been some mess

[@abundance1232]

Ok but how do you go from $50k to $10k w/ no push back??? Yikes.

[@sugarwaterpurple5280]

Because FD was never going to debate him anyway.

[@nolongerinvolved]

I personally have been depoliticizing myself recently, but I like to drop in and check how the people are doing, all I wanted to say is that damn she's gorgeous, however I feel inclined to share my own perspective/non-perspective. All this racial analysis honestly has been eating at my subconscious, I worry many who don't limit their mindspace from anything regarding any type of turmoil will be jaded and emotionally exhausted and unavailable to their own day to day life. Of course I believe in the betterment of humanity and that of course includes black issues, but i find if i just operate off my "default settings" and opt out of these meta-analytical debates, I do the best i possibly could in the real world through friendships, mentorships, apprenticeships, everyday interactions. I know the following will sound crazy to some, especially those who live on a diet of primarily social/cultural/political analysis, but In think the majority of us young people would be better off unplugging, building deeper connections with those around you, seeking out interactions with those you feel you lack understanding with (although even this can be too tryhard and make the interaction unorganic and borderline patronizing). My point is I think we need to remember we got ONE LIFE, WE WILL PASS, so Im gonna celebrate life instead of waiting for a huge systemic change. Would it be righteous, yes, but fuck man, I think we're blinding ourselves from the nutrition around us / between us. Btw, I personally participate in community projects and have been an after school counselor/tutor/mentor for 10 years and now am a pre-k teacher. So my perspective is from someone who has admittedly drowned in the daze of systemic issues while trying to do something about "it" in my real day to day life. But even this is a defensive lens of my experience instead of just sharing, I, like many others, have been gridlocked in angling everything I do to the question of "is this enough" or "am i on the right side" and that is honestly gross, perhaps well intentioned, but misguided. And treating your mind like this, I find, can be dangerously corrosive to how you interact or the lack of interaction in day to day life. Great discussion between the 3 of yall, btw. This took me back to afterschool convos with the homies at the library in highschool. Anyway I'm in the search for a woman like Ms. Kay Aye here, Lord Jesus 🙏🏽

[@vyedarden1174]

@G. G.- I'm one of Themis' weirdo cult members and I'm in here saying that Destiny is not a racist.

[@user-nz5fw8em4g]

Thanks for the breakdown

[@chronicles6065]

Destiny is racist point blank and the period! This is the same man that was banned off of Twitch because of controversial comments that he made about black people. I remember when Destiny made comments about Kai Cenat and IshowSpeed who are two black twitch streamers and how he made a generalization that black twitch streamers content have no substances and minimalized their work by saying all they do is just scream and yell into the camera. Secondly, Destiny bringing a racist onto his platform just to combat his talking points is racist within it's self because my question would be what was it for, and what did you gain out of that. this whole situation is giving "White Savior" you platform a racist to debunk his talking points not understanding that you gave this man access to harm millions of black people by spewing harmful and stereotypical rhetoric it sounds like Destiny just did that in order to proposition himself as an ally when in reality he does not care about the plights of black people. Next, The whole situation between Destiny and FD Signifier was white supremacy because why would you as a whole white man interject into black people's business just to give this blanket statement that was rooted in "Pull yourself up from the bootstraps" which is a racist dog whistle that white people do all the time in order to make black peoples failures their own fault and leaving out the systemic obstacles put in place that keep black people in poverty. In order for systematic racism to sustain itself it has to allow people to pass through in order to establish this false sense of hope that you as a black person can degree, invest, or buy your way out of oppression and that's not how that works and it leaves out a key component that in order for black people to become free this country would have to undergo a significant socioeconomic change black people cannot do this by themselves they need help from everyone, what was also interesting was that Destiny came at FD Signifier when the mans comment was actually pointing out the issues in Killer Mike's comments that was rooted in conservative and racist rhetoric. Killer Mike is so anti black this man literally met and cosigns Brian Kemp a racist politician who is actively working to suppress black people's votes, Killer Mike even made anti black comments about black women calling them "Bad Wig Mafia" which is not only anti black, but disgusting. I always say who you align with is your politic Destiny been racist and Aba been anti black because who would make a joke about donating to Atlanta Police Department when we know that the institution of policing is a contributor and indoctrinator of racism and oppression. Even the term "Good Cops" does not work because either you get killed off or you become swallowed up by the system. How many times of we seen black cops treat their own people bad! This situation is a mess!

[@Shams-fe6lq]

1st line itself is a lie lmao he didn't get banned for anything related to black people at all.

[@mizzhelloo]

Stop lying lol

[@toddpacker4683]

He didn’t get banned for anything relating to black people. He for got departeneted for his comments about rioters torching buildings, but had nothing to do with black people, most protesters were white, you’re just lying. And DEBATING nazis is racist? No one would agree with that

[@xsoonerkillax]

Why would you start this off with a bold face lie and expect anyone to look past it. Destiny has never been banned from twitch because of controversial comments about black people.

[@Ayommari]

Awwww ..... poor tink tink. Between Pearly Things and Destiny, he is much less racist. I think he trolls BM with the same nonsense they make up.

[@simplykhanyi]

Not a cliff hanger Themis!!!

[@RDCFemmes]

I am following but I am lost. How old are these peoplw again?

[@PrincePetti]

destiny is 17, fd is 72 and aba is mid 40s 😇yw

[@somebodycomelistentothispo7217]

@@PrincePetti how is he 17 and has a whole wife,side piece and child ? 😂😂 72?! 😩😩

[@teal1010]

@23:00 “….I’m just trying to put together the picture right now!” You don’t have to know them or their history to give an opinion of what they said or wrote! I think Kay tries to avoid being criticized 24/7!

[@TheKayAyeShow]

What?! I get criticized for doing that!!! So how would that be me AVOIDING criticism?! lol! Just look through the comments…. Why would you rather come up with your own conclusion instead of believing what I directly said about why my thoughts are what they are?

[@TheKayAyeShow]

Also… I have an opinion about the n-word usage… A very clear opinion…. What did someone say or write (that was shown here) that I didn’t give my opinion on? I said idk if Destiny is a racist or not.

[@teal1010]

I gave my “opinion” about how you respond and why! This time, you gave a response without hesitating, avoiding or dodging! 👍🏾

[@TheKayAyeShow]

@@teal1010 okay, but your “opinion” is incorrect…although I understand if you feel the need to continue believing it despite what I’ve said.

[@teal1010]

We can disagree Kay! I don’t always think your opinion is correct! I just think it’s yours!

[@boparks3204]

Isn't going to university already taking you to live beyond most people's means?

[@nanaanan4731]

I actually agree with Destiny’s statement re: lack of confidence in BP by BP. I suspect that he was bluffing re: “make a donation and I’ll debate you,” so his response was him being petty. I don’t like petty, especially coming from grown men. I’m happy that Destiny made a donation to the Atlanta Police Department, though, because gang violence has significantly increased there. I suspect that’s why it’s being militarized.

[@Divinatonio]

Noo please change back to the old song 😂

[@ChasityXoxo]

So basically Eboni was right.

[@ConcreteRoseBlossom]

Whew❤

[@ThemisThoth]

❤️

[@Misslolir]

Really great discourse 👍🏼

[@Weangered]

very well put together content