Destiny Is Never Forgiving Vaush

[@Tormund_Giantsbrain]

Destiny more emotional about the vaush breakup than Melina.

[@MensHominis]

It’s so funny how Destiny yammers about Vaush gaslighting his audience about him … while gaslighting his own audience about Vaush. Both of these guys are literally the same, just not politically.

[@filippeos]

@@MensHominis except destiny doesn't misrepresent situations by seer virtue of actually dipping his toes into them, vaush never even dives into the weeds of what's actually happening rather he puts on his "don't care stay mad'' posture and operates in vagueness whenever he mentions anything KNOWING his audience will eat it anyway so it's effectively gaslighting

[@SpammoJohnson]

@@filippeos Get a load of this nerd.

[@filippeos]

@@SpammoJohnson true

[@Blaze6108]

Huh, that's... kind of a fair point? They're both so hung up on this you would think they were actual husbands.

[@gpcarnage4881]

I dont know why people look to him as an intellectual. He is idealogically dogmatic and only appears intelligent through the way he speaks, but once you analyze his thought process or what he says, it amounts to almost nothing.

[@JackDaniels-ru2xy]

Why don’t you give an example alongside your claim? Like even a small one. Do you not watch Destiny?

[@cannon9521]

@@JackDaniels-ru2xyI think he’s talking about Vaush bud

[@theunitedworldofworkers7274]

example?

[@HRRRRRDRRRRR]

Yeah, but what about Vaush?

[@gpcarnage4881]

@JackDaniels-ru2xy The fact he has to poison the well and associate someone with Nazis before he even debates them. The fact he can't steal man any argument that isn't directly congruent with his. When he does try this, he does it in the most uncharitable way possible (go to any trans debate he has ever participated in or the debate he had with Professor Aqua). The fact that he can't honestly portray any view point different than his proves he will only be possessed by ideas and never make them. By this same notion, he would never be able to relate with anyone who is further right than himself (which is damn near the entire population). He engages in manipulative tactics like Hasan by saying, "They are obsessed." Both Hasan and Vaush hit the market cap of insane lefties who scream racism and when you don't base your orientation in the world in truth, you are at the mercy of trends. Which is why both of them are slowly dwindling into nothing because their pitiful "arguments" have lost any meaning because calling everything racist, transphobic, etc. means nothing is now racist, transphobic, etc. Satisfied?

[@jord.an6123]

Wait does destiny really think he wasn't being unnecessarily combative at the "left unity" vidcon panel?

[@SarahUsrey]

❤❤❤❤Jesus loves you

[@leo--4341]

@@SarahUsreyyour god is morally corrupt

[@ineedapharmists]

Destiny back on his Crazy ex-gf arc

[@iz2333]

Ngl I'm still not sold that Vaush is anywhere near this malicious. Knowing Vaush he is way too lazy to actually scheme like this.

[@colamity_5000]

I don’t think the manipulation is preplanned it’s more the kind of thinking where people post hoc to make themselves feel better about their positions.

[@Olivetree80]

I know right, his biggest vice is apathy really

[@unironicallyablueraspberry4959]

​​@@Olivetree80 explains the physique lol

[@markantony9038]

If you like listening to someone who is not that intelligent talk down to you like you're a preschooler then Vaush is right for you!

[@TurtleChad1]

Destiny is the same lol

[@markantony9038]

@@TurtleChad1 Nah not really.

[@bryanhernandez2364]

@@TurtleChad1man you’re a loser 😂

[@lidiagizaw3828]

bro destiny is the same didnt he used to argue pedos need to be allowed to watch child porn from old abuse victims.also tried to rationalize incest lol

[@THEKNIGHT108]

@@lidiagizaw3828he never once argued that for pedos, he was playing into someone else’s hypothetical. Try again. And he doesn’t actually care for incest himself, he uses that as a litmus test for logic. If you can’t logically explain why two gay adult brothers can’t have sex beyond “it’s gross and immoral,” you haven’t thought about it enough. Try again.

[@MCcreeperKiller789]

Completely off topic but I’m just now seeing that Vaush cleaned up his appearance well finally started trimming his beard getting haircuts, good for him lol

[@HostileTakeover555]

Good. I genuinely don’t understand how people don’t see through Vaush - he gave me the creeps from the first time I watched a video of his. I would lose total respect for Destiny if he did.

[@TurtleChad1]

He defeated destiny many times in debates

[@HostileTakeover555]

@@TurtleChad1 - He’s a socialist, he pretty much loses on every level. Also, that’s technically irrelevant since this entire thing is speaking about him as a person.

[@godscroissant1539]

@@HostileTakeover555he’s baiting you

[@familyvalue5588]

@@HostileTakeover555 You are being baited by an attention wh.0.re

[@brandi598]

i actually feel this exact same way about destiny. How can you still respect destiny after he literally maintained a friendship with an open woman abuser who was actively coercing his girlfriend into necrophilia roleplay, pushing her to say yes over and over until she had a panic attack and broke down. Destiny legit watched mr.girl's videos of him abusing his girlfriend and provided the most mild pushback and then BEFRIENDED HIM for months.

[@andrewb4999]

My god, Vaush literally barley acknowledges Destiny’s existence at all these past years yet Destiny cannot seem to stop bitching about him every week’s end. It’s pretty clear who took the breakout the hardest.

[@EvilSamB]

Wow he's still complaining about vaush

[@rhaz3206]

I stopped watching him about a year ago after being a huge fan of his because he is just sooooo performative during debates. His voice changes, he’s literally put on accents before, and adopts a completely different vocabulary.

[@6052callum]

He's very performative, and I enjoy the performance.

[@bryanhernandez2364]

Yeah. I unsubscribed a few months ago to. I stopped going to church cause I didn’t like people preaching to me. Didn’t need it from a youtuber lol

[@Matthew-ij3zm]

@@6052callum and that's all a lot of people care about, so he's obviously never gonna change. He doesn't have to, he knows the left is all about being performative.

[@kenosabi]

Yeah his vocabulary comes from whoever is in the chat atm. The dude has ZERO independent thought. There's also the part where he's funded in part by the UK gov. Pretty ironic for him considering the image he sells.

[@catothatidiot5243]

Man I hate to tell you but debate IS theater. All professional debaters, Destiny included, are putting on a show.

[@palmarium]

The Patreon thing isn’t the right argument for Vaush. He is one of the most controversial figures in the left; if he wanted a greater audience he would toe the line more.

[@NicodemusT]

It's too bad doomerpolitics/doomermedia fell into a k-hole. That "Vaush is unironically evil" vid was epic.

[@100gecs3]

K-hole? Wdym

[@Rewolrat]

wait what happened to doomerpolitics

[@winmau.88]

@@Rewolratthats what im sayin

[@zetetic-astronomer]

@@winmau.88 He quit, he let short fat otaku repost the video

[@NicodemusT]

@@Rewolrathe deleted the video and all of his content and bailed.

[@hartheffe]

It’s confusing to me how such a rational thinker and debater is so messy and dramatic about their personal life. I like both steamers, neither are perfect, and I don’t care about some perceived slight or broken friendship.

[@Kamfrenchie]

what do you mean ?

[@DOFT.mp4]

Vaush purposefully stains Destiny's name for clout... this isn't just some "perceived" broken friendship

[@Julie-do2dr]

yeah, i watch both of them regularly and they both do things that occasionally grate on my nerves but i enjoy hearing both of their perspectives on things

[@FirstLast-gk6lg]

Wow insanely ideological cope from Destiny about the client list, lol none of the names matter and no body cares, because of Trump? wut? that's absolutely unhinged

[@de_glez]

ironic

[@grudgejudy9736]

Wait, is his Epstein list comment serious? It infuriates me that so many fucking people let Trump rot their brains and change the way they view things - whether they love him or hate him. It has nothing to do with Trump. A lot of people do care and it’s absurd to argue that it’s not important.

[@KrappyKillz]

Destiny seems to have some serious TDS recently. Still love his content but he seems to seriously hate that dude. Trump def corrupt in some forms but to hyperfixate on it while seemingly giving a pass to the also obvious Biden corruption is weird af to me.

[@torhast]

The only people who seriously care about the Epstein client list are conspiracy lunatics who want to be proven right about some secret cabal. This is literally the QAnon bullshit. The reality is that what Epstein did was horrible and he was a horrible human being but that doesn't mean there was a secret society of pedophiles controlling the world.

[@danielsurvivor1372]

Yeah rare bad take from him. Maybe it's just me, but when I first heard Trump being mentioned by someone who's involved with Epstein, it suddenly made me see red flags and while even pre that moment I started being sceptical of Trump, I do still think it contributed somewhat to me finally seeing him for a hack that he is.

[@Buraz93]

Yeah that comment literally solidified it for me that D man has a TDS.

[@hover97]

I gotta read it myself cause ive heard trump isn't on the logs (don't know how true that is). But if its true, it thus makes Destiny's retarded comment even funnier

[@KingDeuces22]

That video Destiny covered where Vaush is talking to that woman I can’t recall, and he starts talking in an entirely fabricated accent throughout the conversation unironically will always stick with me. For a reason I can’t expand upon it disturbed me to see something so fake in real time.

[@ghostrecon3834]

The reason it comes across so disturbing is because you’re literally witnessing malicious and manipulative narcissistic mirroring in real time.

[@ne0nmancer]

The one with the plantation rizz?

[@KingDeuces22]

@@ne0nmancer Yes! It was a black woman and he just pulled a southern accent out of his ass in some sort of strange, “Oh honey child” routine.

[@richg4011]

It was him talking to briahna joy gray, and it was the oddest shit ever. Even the way he says black folk for years was always weird to me. Hes a strange guy.

[@jacovichstabs841]

Leave Vaush alone, he's just got a little tism

[@NouammAA]

Destiny is such a crybaby. Just ignore Vaush, it's getting ridiculous

[@lillily4655]

The recent *incident* that went down with Vaush vindicates THE FUCK out of Destiny here. Holy shit.

[@lampad4549]

Dont think destiny cares about that stuff

[@PROJECTJoza100]

Which incident?

[@killercaos123]

I’m kinda lost on one thing. Voosh is clout sharking, but like 97% of his content in 2023 was sitting in his room talking to his audience. He doesn’t ever try to collab with big streamers. He also autistically only stream for like 4 days max, and autistically strims for like 3 hours most time. But Destiny has more subscribers and view count? Goes out to conferences. Does interviews. Hell, in a couple days time Destiny is gonna be talking with Greenwald and Benny boy. Also ironic, I looked up “clout sharking” on google and the second link there was for a r/Destiny post about Destiny being insecure about clout sharking lol

[@TheOldSchoolGamer93]

Yeah Destiny's full.of shit on that one and projecting 100%. The part about Vaush lying and misrepresenting people is at least partly true though, I've seen him do it.

[@ObservingtheMatrix]

All of this! I don’t think Destiny realizes how often he’s projecting. His sit downs with a therapist were interesting for me, but I can’t agree more. I’ve seen Destiny on hip hop Chanel’s like Adam22’s, black women empowerment/ Chanel’s like Themis & Thot, he’s goes to campus’, debates huge people, etc - Vaush just kind of does his think and is very reluctant to go out of his way to meet with other streamers. Destiny would definitely be more of a clout chaser IMO lol

[@Musaxen]

Trash talking people is also a form of clout sharking. Like with Ana Kasparian. Vaush was clout sharking by joining in on the unhinged hate mob against her. He got a huge bump in viewership that month. By your definition, any person who debates is a clout shark which broadens the term so much that it becomes meaningless.

[@phantom_drone]

@@ObservingtheMatrixDestiny debates smaller figures though much more frequently to Vaush

[@NapalmAssasian]

Because it doesn't make sense. The only instance of clout sharking I think you could argue is his beef with Ana but even then like he made what 5 videos?

[@candycorn-]

does he ever stop thinking about vaush holy shit

[@HudsonBencharski]

Looking at that ai meme idk how you could come away from that NOT THINKING THEY HATED VAUSH to portray vaush and destiny to be almost the same height has gotta be one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen made against another creator, i feel so bad for vaush honestly

[@malcomgladstone]

well them made vaush 90lbs lighter

[@DrinkingMud]

Irishladdie, never forget

[@winmau.88]

Who?

[@Admiral-General_Aladeen]

🐎

[@ergot1803]

@@winmau.88Well-known sexual harasser, Vaush's alter ego and old DGG username

[@LoopyDreamz775]

@@Admiral-General_Aladeen Yes he loves 🐎 🍆

[@TheOneTruePatriot]

​@@Admiral-General_Aladeen Ya know, the horse thing is really starting to not sound like a "joke"

[@heathen8379]

Destiny IS pro de-platforming. He advocated for Gundam to be banned from Twtich.

[@justanotherwitposter1875]

Can you give some source for this? I looked it up and can't find anything except some people speculating over it, but nothing directly (besides that dude saying it in his video about the destiny Melina stuff) and from what I've heard destiny say himself he doesn't support deplatforming unless it's something like violating TOS

[@sepulcher8263]

Source.

[@ltfringr]

Destiny complaining about Vaush while doing the exact same thing

[@danielsurvivor1372]

Average Destiny W. Some moments pre Rittenhouse and Rittenhouse debate with Vowsh are one of many small yet important moments that helped me grow as a person and change my mind and leave my echo chamber. I still disagree with Destiny on some things, but I still watch Destiny cuz unlike Vowsh, he genuinely sounds and acts like human

[@SpammoJohnson]

Destiny touches kids tho

[@JustinSailor]

I want to know how Destiny determines that Vaush is a liar.

[@WHYUNODYLAN]

3:31

[@JustinSailor]

​@@WHYUNODYLAN because Vaush says "he(destiny)was being so antagonistic in the vid con panels?" This is destiny misunderstanding Vaush. Vaush said "in the vid con panels" and destiny takes it as destiny's fans in the comments after the panels.

[@JustinSailor]

​@@WHYUNODYLANin the video, Destiny describes Vaush as being fake in real life. And Vaush is describing Destiny as antagonistic. It seems to me that there is an expectation of attitude problem. Vaush s interpreting destiny's stated disagreements during the panel as unnecessary division and Vaush seems to want to avoid arguing for the sake of unity and their shared goal.

[@WHYUNODYLAN]

6:40

[@JustinSailor]

I just think they're both miscommunicating. Destiny, thinks Vaush is malicious and Vaush thinks Destiny is a "crazy obsessed ex-girlfriend". You can probably find what you're looking for in a comment section.

[@ronintage]

I can't believe my initial question to him in chat led to this whole segment. I kinda regret it tbh

[@iggydiaz2693]

Chill dude, if it wasn’t a worthy subject he knows better to address it, it was worth him talking about

[@BasedMexx]

The misrepresenting Vaush does is so snakey

[@aimless_aimer7936]

I unironically think that Destiny is literally doing the same thing here. Vaush being a clout shark (vaush is so lazy and collab averse that I have no idea where he gets this impression), and writing things down about what he's gonna say about Destiny beforehand?? I genuinely think Destiny is delusional about this. Vaush is predictable with how he responds to a Destiny thing but how does it prove all *this*? Vaush just takes cheap lazy shots (which is why it's so predictable) and Destiny turns it into to Vaush being some machiavellian schemer.

[@Olivetree80]

And you don't see Destiny doing the same? It seems like Destiny is not recognizing his emotional reactions, which are getting in the way of his interpretations. Vaush likely has a blockage regarding relationships, possibly a component of his autism, being that seeing other people's perspectives is difficult, but Destiny is being super moralistic and dramatic here.

[@kingkunta3753]

@@Olivetree80 big differene here is that destiny will actually show his audience what vaush does that he dislikes whereas vaush will never quantify a single thing destiny says and will just dishonestly paraphrase

[@meteorjuice4088]

Is Vaush ignorant or evil? Yes

[@MensHominis]

Ah yes, the rational Destiny crew: *The guy we disagree with is literally Hitler.* All you fanboys are so goddamn alike, no matter if you follow Destiny, Vaush, some tankie, some Trumpist …

[@AdrianGrave]

​@@MensHominis you didn't refute him...

[@Olivetree80]

You're so silly for calling him evil, you don't gotta like the dude, but this is just some parasocial loyalty to Destiny to the extreme.

[@AdrianGrave]

​@@Olivetree80 out of interest.. what are your thoughts on Destiny laughing at an American for getting killed in a prison in Ukraine? This person was not a combatant... Seeing Destiny laughing and his fans calling it "an absolute win" put me off these people for good.

[@kahner93]

Vaush is the Kaiba to Destiny's Yugi. They are the best of enemies.

[@maxabdulhadi]

Shapiro is the Bakura, the finale is coming soon…

[@red-pm5qg]

"He said hi in real life then said mean things online so hes a bad person"

[@uh-ohspaghettio7826]

I've been falling off of Destiny recently, just watching other things, but the "Epstein and Trump" part is wild. Now that it's confirmed that Trump wasn't involved in it, suddenly it's not important and nobody should care? Like, okay, fam. Lol.

[@russcastella]

Vaush introduced me to Destiny lol

[@EE-jp5ev]

Same lol and I'm still watching destiny whereas I fell off Vaush's content a couple years ago

[@PoorEdward]

“That’s what being angry does to you” bro the irony?

[@rcurl44]

Point to when Vaush was angry lmao

[@sspence65]

Trump doesn't show up on the list, and the voters do care about the list. Claim all you want.

[@romelfelipe9891]

the keffals bridge being rebuilt before vaush is crazy

[@josephpa05]

Really

[@tiggerbane4325]

Nah. Keffals had an irl intervention and changed how they were acting towards others because of it. Whereas Vaush has continued acting in the same way. It’s really quite believable.

[@killercaos123]

Keffals went to AA. Where she actually had to get rid of her bad habit, and learn to use good ones

[@PyroJack]

And the spite grows

[@deeky1239]

Im sorry but knowing Destiny, the reddit had to be removing negative threads on Vaush because his fake behavior at the panel was sociopathic af.

[@nurglecanuck8723]

I don't care about the client list because it hurts my narrative. Jesus.

[@lhmmhl1]

I wish Nick Fuentes and Destiny were still cool. Loved their content!!!

[@arielperez3613]

Destiny is so obsessed with vaush omg 😅

[@RSSP2000]

I'm concerned that Fuentes' complaints about deplatforming was what made Destiny cut him off

[@harryb12993]

I care about the epstein list, I've hated celebrities for a long time and look forward to discounting people's views of them whenever they bring up someone who turned out to be on the list. I long for a world where celebrity worship is gone. (Some exceptions such as Keanu Reeves and Shaquille O'Neal who are genuinely good people)

[@jacobwhitley3767]

Good attitude. Feel the same, though some of the ones u mentioned are questionable lol

[@harryb12993]

@@jacobwhitley3767 I'm guessing by that you mean Shaq which is understandable, he's done a few bad things but a lot of good too.

[@WoodEe-zq6qv]

"I hate celebrities except wholesome keanu chungus 100" Reddit moment

[@harryb12993]

@@WoodEe-zq6qv I'm insulted but have no good comeback.

[@ndimuafrica]

How do you know your exceptions are genuinely good people? Do you know them personally?

[@hey001hey]

Saying that the daily wire is probably self funded by subscription is crazy.

[@Kodiak42]

Acting like your sub was NOT attacking vaush after pv panel is delusional. He didn't even blow it up, but you freaked out as soon as he pointed out the bs he saw.

[@beepboop5038]

At the end of the day Vausch is an social media commenter

[@Andrew-bf2oj]

If I had ears like Vaush I’d be emotionally abusive too.

[@candycorn-]

desTiny

[@MadhatterOfMankind]

You noticed that too huh...

[@ismeal231]

There are fair criticisms of Vaush to be made, and i would never expect Destiny to change his opinion of him/ nor Vaush change his opinion of Destiny. He's definitely not a clout chaser, or he's the worlds worst clout chaser, and he's not a bad person. We're all looking at the remains of the fallout of two peoples personal relationship, so i don't think anyone should take claims either makes of each other as wholly accurate. Vaush definitely gets things wrong and has portrayed perspectives of others that isnt accurrate, but i dont think i would fairly say hes intentionally lying the times he does that. I think with Destiny specifically hes more motivated by spite and projects some of that towards Destiny, but im also not going to sit here and pretend that spite hasnt been directed towards him as well. I dont want anyone to mistake me when i say that, i dont mean Destiny's conclusions are motivated by spite, only his style and approach towards people he dislikes. Destiny is gonna fixate and inflate Vaushs faults, and Vaush will do the same, and both will use examples of their faults to reaffirm the correctness of their beliefs about each other. Destiny and Vaush are both incredibly intelligent and entertaining streamers, and i think its best for both communities to just accept that and move on from the drama between them. We only see them cover each other now because both communities' worst members stir the shit pot every couple of months.

[@rockstar450]

While I appreciate your neutrality, they are 2 completely different people morally. Destiny's flaw is getting too obsessively worked up to get to the truth and might push too hard, but unless first insulted he typically keeps it on the topic and will happily move on if he has nothing to add. Vaush never admits he's wrong and will strawman and adhom like a woke activist the moment things might corner him. Literally calling innocent leftists Nazis because of one bad take and letting his community bully them off the internet. No Vaush knows full well the harm he does and is so sociopathically focused he can't stand to lose a debate and will ensure you suffer if you dare humiliate him. He puts words in people's mouths and aims to degrade his opponent using the topic as a theme rather than good faith debate

[@ismeal231]

@rockstar450 I'm not being nuetral, I'm being objective, and I think this comment is exactly the kind of hyper inflationary rhetoric I'm talking about. It's okay not to like Vaush, im not gonna harang you for it. His personality is abrasive and he is incredibly stubborn, to a point where he struggles to admit he's wrong in the face of looking weak, but he does admit when he's wrong. To a say you know he lies intentionally, and to further go on to say he's a sociopath, though, that's actually unhinged. You must understand you're doing the simulacram thing that Destiny was criticizing vaush for in video. He calls people Nazi and Fascist because he has a criteria to do so, he's mentioned it on his stream multiple times. You could say it's a wholly stupid criteria and doesnt really get to any truth of the matter, but he doesn't literally throw the word around every time he has something negative to say about another person, let alone other leftists. He himself is a leftist, and he makes his stances on the more toxic elements of the left well known, and its why he's so ubiquitously maligned by most other leftist communities. It's also unfair to say he debates in bad faith holistically. I'm sure he's argued some points to win an argument, but he definitely has ideas and topics that he cares about and has clearly researched and thought about issues enough to come to a debate in good faith. I'm not interested in painting either Destiny or Vaush in these black and white perspectives. Neither of them are Good or Evil, and to form conclusions from a dichotomy like that is cancerous and doesn't contribute any good to online discourse.

[@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster]

@@ismeal231 His criteria for calling people Nazis is very ill defined making it essentially worthless He may not be evil but he ain't good either. He definitely fall more towards the black side of things when it comes to black and white perspective

[@ismeal231]

@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster So many people get hung up on this, and it's super dumb. I never claimed he was good or bad, I'm not interested in delegating the perceived moral value either Destiny or Vaush because i dont know them, and neither do you. It's kinda parasocial to even have an opinion on either of them just because of their beef with each other. All either of them is entertainment to me. That's how it is, and thats how it should be for everyone in their community. I think there's at least some utility in how Vaush defines a fascist, but Nazi less so, I don't think him painting some of the people hes engaged with in the past like that was fair.

[@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster]

@@ismeal231 Oh to be fair I don't have any parasocial relationshop to these people. I dislike Vaush for reasons completely separate reasons from his beef with destiny.

[@younggotti8195]

no one cares about the epstein list? thats a very odd take

[@craighutchinson5045]

Vaush talks about porn too much

[@etherealfoxproductions]

That’s because he’s a legitimate deviant.

[@logoncal3001]

It do be like that when Keffals, the one who killed Destiny's twitch, built a bridge with him but not Vaush LUL

[@yingyangman11]

I don't think Destiny did much to back up his point about Vaush being only about clout and doesn't play nice with PV, and it felt like he just put it out there as another bad thing to say about Vaush. Vaush has helped support PV in the past by often pushing his audience to join and having PV on his stream to talk about the work they're doing, I don't understand where Destiny would get the view that he doesn't like to play nice with them. I feel like because he wasn't fully on board with what Destiny was doing, that's why Destiny feels that way. And if Vaush was clout hungry, why does he never go on podcasts or do any of the things Destiny has been doing to build his audience. A chatter mentioned because he's lazy, but for whatever reason Destiny felt that wasn't it? I dunno, feel like there's easier and less malicious explanations for why Vaush does what he does. But happy to see more evidence of why Vaush is guilty of what Destiny is accusing him of

[@fiji9258]

I agree though I will say it does seem like laziness to me. He's carved out a niche for himself that makes him enough money to live comfortably and he seems content with it. I can't even really blame him tbh, but it did make me grow out of his content pretty quickly. Especially compared to people like Destiny who is always chasing different paths and engaging with new people/ideas etc.

[@yingyangman11]

@@fiji9258 Yeah, that's all fair and I appreciate a decent bit of Destiny's content for doing more different stuff, but I am still a fan of Vaush, as I enjoy most of his particular niche.

[@peterthompson350]

I mean the reason he doesn’t do other podcasts much could also be cowardice. It hasn’t turned out too well for him too often when he does step outside his bubble, e.g. the aqua incident.

[@yingyangman11]

@@peterthompson350 I guess? But like, he still does debate people. Just the other week he was on a big panel that Dylan Burns did talking with a bunch of conservatives and others. I would agree that he doesn't debate as many people as he could, but I feel like cowardice is a weak excuse considering he still talks to people he disagrees with. Like a good example I feel would be when he talked to Lonerbox recently, and after being given more information about the "Israel funding Hamas," claim that Vaush has made, he agreed that he was incorrect. Vaush has still be friendly with Lonerbox since and has hosted him. I feel like the coward label would make more sense if he never debated people or did so incredibly sporadically.

[@peterthompson350]

@@yingyangman11I don’t really watch Vaush, I was just replying to what you said in your original comment about him not going on talk shows or other podcasts. Also I think there’s some extra credence to the idea that he’s a coward considering what’s shown in this video, I.e. Vaush lying about random shit to his chat while acting totally normal in person.

[@Zurodattibass]

Keffals Apologised for everything they did? Keffals is as dishonest as Vaush but in a different manner. The moment you are vulnerable enough they will come for you, Vaush and Keffals are two vultures, one will mindlessly attack, the other will apologise that they didn't realise you weren't fully dead. It's two forms of predation.

[@Nergal667]

I dialiked Destiny like in 2020 because I only knew him how Vaush described him to be. Once I started to actually watch Tiny did I realize how slimy Vaush is.

[@mikemichaelson120]

Damn destiny’s take on the Epstein client list actually has made him hit a new low

[@RhapsodyBlues]

Destiny doesn't think he is combative... shows his delusion

[@roachofdoom1234]

I’ve lost respect for vaush since the Israel Hamas war began but he isn’t a clout chaser man. He fights other lefties all the time.

[@Phenom98]

Destiny's ego needs a reality check. Classic cringe leftist bridge-burner. What a baby.

[@firefly9838]

Its weird for me because I have watched both for a long time for entertainment and both kind of say the same things about each other with little evidence. "Oh hes a trash person", "yeah hes not a good person" back n forth etc, etc I just think its personal honestly

[@taragnor]

Yeah, this exactly. I think Vaush''s style just really annoys Destiny because Vaush is much less civil in his discourse. To Vaush I don't think he means anything personally, it's just the way he debates, where Destiny takes it personally and got offended.

[@sum8601]

From my casual viewership with both these knuckleheads to me it seems as though Destiny shadowboxes ALOT by reading into something said in flippancy way too much, like it's some kind of premeditated character assassination designed to undermine his whole persona. Like vorsh will say something like "Destiny, yeah nah i think hes a dick" to which Destiny will respond with a 15 min rant with MS paint diagrams to prove how he is _not_ infact a penis and thus proving how he was misrepresented.

[@torhast]

@@taragnor It's not about being civil, Destiny has had so many moments of being uncivil in his discourse. Some people think him being "edgy" is even his whole schtick. The issue with Vaush is that he is dishonest and lies about Destiny. Did you not watch the video?

[@taragnor]

@@torhast Yeah I watched it, but I didn't see any examples of Vaush doing that. Vaush says similar stuff about Destiny too. When they talk about each other, it's in such vague terms. I don't follow either of them religiously, so I don't know the full story, so I'm going by what few videos I've seen of them talking about each other. What was even the first inciting incident that created this feud in the first place?

[@LabTech41]

If you look up "Dark Triad" personality type, it's defining characteristics are: 1 - Psychopathy - impulsive, selfish, callous, remorseless, antisocial 2 - Narcissism - grandiosity, pride, egotism, lack of empathy 3 - Machiavellianism - manipulation/exploitation of others, indifferent to morality Now, I ask you, does this not fit Vaush to a T? He always loves to use his checklist to see if you're a fascist, so I say by that metric, Vaush is Dark Triad, which NOBODY should have as a friend, because Dark Triads are incapable of friendship: EVERYONE is just a resource to be used for their personal betterment, and then discarded when no longer useful.

[@maxabdulhadi]

you know what also has 3 points? Vorsn is part of the illuminati

[@danielsurvivor1372]

W take. Although sadly Vowshites won't listen to you 😢

[@ismeal231]

*How to tell someone "I don't go outside enough" without just saying it*

[@LabTech41]

@@ismeal231 Imagine thinking to yourself "I have nothing substantive to offer this thread, but I can be a snarky jerk, and people might think I'm cool for it"... and thinking that would actually succeed. FWIW, I go outside plenty; probably more than you. Hopefully, one day, you can be as well-rounded as I am, and can actually contribute something that matters.

[@ismeal231]

@LabTech41 @LabTech41 Come on dude, your original post is so over the top. Firstly, psychopathy isn't a diagnostically relevant term anymore, but even if it was, these behavioral patterns that you listed would make every streamer (even Destiny) at least somewhat psychopathic. I'm assuming you're not a psychiatrist, but let's assume you were, you would not diagnose anyone with a personality disorder just by watching their streams, so i dont know why youd think its appropriate find the most extreme diagnosis and apply it to someone you don't know in any context beyond them being a streamer that your favorite streamer doesn't like. You might as well come to the conclusion that Vaush is evil because he's got an incompatible horoscope, it's just silly. You're perfectly entitled to not like Vaush, but you make yourself sound super unhinged when you paint the guy as a super villain.

[@Swolidarity]

The feeling is mutual between both of y’all now, I see

[@ModernMenace1]

You guys have exact same debate tactics - reframing questions with your own narrative, reframe statements an questions to gaslight audience,talk really fast, deflect,straw man, move the goal post, an vaush just supports whatever is the current thing that's goin on to get him more followers. So cringe. No real position. You both don't actually stand for anything

[@OneAutumnLeaf420]

Ngl Vaush turned me off from a lot of his content when he attacked Ana Kasparian. Since then I’ve been more or less meh to his stuff now. I’ll watch a video here and there but overall not much of a avid viewer anymore

[@johnsykes3970]

I mean, he was horrible way before that, but yeah, the Ana stuff was just ridiculous. His (very childish) mentality is essentially “Even if something is obviously true, don’t talk about it if it could potentially help the right.” 🙄

[@thelogicalcaveman9139]

Massive cope over the Epstein questions. You should care who is on that list and why they were there trump or not. If you don’t care it seem like you don’t care about one of the largest human trafficking cases in our time. With many possible people in positions of power.

[@de_glez]

I mean they were just people associated with Epstein, nothing to do with the actual trafficking cuz I highly doubt stephen hawking who was also in the list would be a part of it

[@maxhatush5918]

It’s not real. It’s a hoax

[@thelogicalcaveman9139]

@@maxhatush5918 what is

[@maxhatush5918]

@@thelogicalcaveman9139 muh Epstein p3do wing island twafficking. All phoney.

[@irvincooks1]

Lmao, destiny is so fake. He hates vaush yet he stuck with Melina until she left him. And I’m not debating who left who, she clearly left him.

[@JasperRoamer]

Vaush strawmans people, that all he does, it's like he is solving a puzzle that must always lead to the person being a naught-sy by proxy.

[@entertain7us148]

genuine question, what does destiny mean by vaush 'lies' about him and is 'emotionally abusive'?

[@BiggieChungulus]

I like both destiny and vaush. I also like coach greg and Dr K. I wonder what people would think of this remark.

[@littlehop933]

Destiny this is pshycotic plz stop

[@jp-dp7wc]

“Didn’t Keffals do way worse and you’re cool with her now?” “Keffals apologized for everything she did and acknowledged everything she did that was incorrect.” 😂 But I am a generous God.

[@MrSquaky]

5:12 Dude NOBODY thinks that, how can anyone let alone Destiny, be that clueless about why Corporations bribe Politicians holy shit

[@brandi598]

LMAO destiny saying vaush is fake because vaush was amicable when they were at the same panel in person is so funny.

[@ricecake4588]

If you're gonna talk crap openly about someone, keep that same energy face to face.

[@Shark-hn4mv]

That is pretty fake.

[@brandi598]

@@ricecake4588 should vaush have decked destiny on sight to keep that same energy LMAO obvi not they’re attending a professional event together he’s gonna just be polite and keep online beef online

[@brandi598]

@@Shark-hn4mv ur right he should’ve asked destiny if they could meet outside to handle this like men and then have a proper fist fight

[@beebah90]

​@@ricecake4588lol, so vaush should come out blasting at an event that is about bigger things than vaushs and destiny's personal issues with each other? You're a smart one

[@jacobbarre3618]

wait so you shouldnt care ab the epstein list since trump fans wont care if trumps on it? a little spiteful, no?

[@makerstudios5456]

For once Destiny is 100% right.

[@Wedgethe1st]

I like both :(

[@JustinBorowski13]

Lol might wanna re examine your stance now that Trump didn't appear on the list at all

[@PoorEdward]

How sensitive must a guy’s ego be to say Destiny was being antagonistic there lmao what? And this guy calls other people insecure for being monogamous.

[@Trecesolotienesdos]

Vaush is well spoken and reasons well but is too stuck in his woke xenogender bs

[@DonnieTroya]

What does this even mean? You know a lot of the "72 gender" accounts are right wing bots right?

[@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster]

@@DonnieTroya Citation?

[@bloo9699]

I like watchin destiny sometimes and I like watchin Vaush sometimes. Am I doing it wrong?

[@mr.perfectcell3236]

No not really you're a rational individual not forming alliances with your favorite man on the screen in parasocial toxic way. I tip my Hat to you 🎩

[@ryangivens2]

It's hard to see how Destiny isn't guilty of all the things he accuses Vaush of here. Particularly true when it comes to motivations..

[@TurtleChad1]

What is he guilty of?

[@ryangivens2]

@@TurtleChad1 He attacks people's character on stream

[@galaxycraftings]

example?

[@HostileTakeover555]

@@ryangivens2- But he usually has the receipts to back it up. Vaush constantly lies.

[@synchronium24]

They are both spite driven and deny being so. However, Destiny has the advantage of not claiming the "rent free" nonsense all the time.

[@KenShackler]

Vaush uses overly edgy language and Destiny overreacts because of that. That's the main reason why these people don't get along. I don't know why Destiny is so paranoid about Vaush. Vaush had a theory about why Destiny was so confrontational and he said it out loud. It wasn't a lie. It was a theory. Destiny should know the difference. I do think that Vaush was an idiot when he called Destiny low IQ. I'll never understand why he uses that kind of edgy language. I also think that Destiny is way too paranoid about Vaush. Vaush is too edgy, Destiny is too paranoid. That's all there's to it, really.

[@TheCromesd]

Destiny: Trump derangement syndrome doesnt exist Also destiny: i dont care about the epstein list because i dont like trump

[@trapsarentgaymcgee5202]

[@AnonDudeBro]

I miss the tactical N word edge-lord Vaush, Jesus Christ his content is so boring to me now.

[@tyeberiusmcintyre1879]

i dont hate vaushs content, but i can see him not being a good person being a good reason to not wanna reach out and rebuild that bridge specially after that comment that Ds community was attacking him, pretty sure we were all cheering when he put on the fake face and played nice in person XD

[@dukesilver3491]

Have always wondered what happened between you guys but this video did not explain it. Perhaps I'm just stupid but I still got no idea.

[@SpookypupOmen]

I disagree and i know im right That line is why i only half trust either of you because you both speak like youre the arbiters of truth.

[@mattbryant8320]

The Epstein list cope is too much 😂😂

[@dee-wreck]

Vaush and Destiny are so alike lol

[@kyledodson2992]

Destiny doesn’t advocate for political violence… he also doesn’t change his positions once he’s talking to a person in the flesh

[@JackDaniels-ru2xy]

@@kyledodson2992ok but why not give examples?

[@palmarium]

All ideological war is to some extent political violence. Also, he tone matches he doesn’t change what he believes in

[@thapeacock2601]

As opposite as liberals could be

[@killercaos123]

@@kyledodson2992Hasn’t he made “night makes right” arguments in the past? I know for certain he thinks Israel has a right to defend itself. And he’s made arguments in the past for existential reasons why blacks in America could attack whites, in the past.

[@Elitetaste77]

I stopped listening to em after his Kobe comments

[@know_no_th3ory128]

😂😂😂 I’m still a V fan but I hear you on that. Funny enough I only learned about the comments when he brought it up on stream and talked about how stupid it was. That’s my biggest gripe with him too. I kinda stopped listening to Destiny when he dissed Michael Brooks after he died.

[@danielwilliams7576]

What chat is Destiny reading?

[@trans_ben_shapiro]

you wouldn't feel bad collaborating with fuentes or jones right?

[@trans_ben_shapiro]

oh wait its all about once they start hurting your feewings🥺

[@LoopyDreamz775]

Idk I wouldn’t collab or be around anyone who actively calls my fans or me a nazi for no reason and is extremely fake and 2 faced…

[@jaydezifour988]

Not collaborating with people you don't like is what literally everyone from the lowly 2k sub breadtuber all the way the relevance latter to Joe Rogan. Vaush's whole fortress arc was founded on that principle.

[@decipherable]

Destiny just venting here lol. I definitely see the similarities between the way they both debate, except Destiny's takes are immensely more dogmatic and he lost my respect in his nazi-esque support for a very brazen genocide. I don't have much sympathy for Destiny even though I know what it feels like to be rejected by your crush

[@de_glez]

Cool strawman

[@stevereed2472]

​@@de_glezcool retort

[@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster]

@@stevereed2472 Tepid Comment

[@johnnylego807]

Two sides of the same coin Lmfao.

[@ObservingtheMatrix]

Vaush, a bad person? lol he seems so relaxed compared to Destiny who’s always seems to be tweeking lol

[@RaRd8z]

He's an authoritarian communist and a compulsive liar. It's actually incredible people believe in his grift.

[@hrothgr52]

Because vaush is 100% performative. I hate that people can’t see that.

[@Matt-ww9wv]

@@hrothgr52 People have persona's online? Wow. Impossible. Vaush has actually straight up said why he's often nicer in debates with people and why. Of course people are performative in certain context. Have you ever had a job before in your life? Literally a 0 iq complaint.

[@ImEnemy608]

Vaush bridge building coming in nicely toobz. TWU

[@malikshabazz2065]

great work!

[@emanate0]

ppl have to realize hes a troll. you can catch it occasionally during debates if you pay attention

[@YangBalanceYin]

Eh... only one of these people talk about the other as much as they do...