Vaush Slanders Destiny, Leaves Him Disgusted

[@Stabby666]

Vaush: "The satiation of his feeling of intellectual superiority" Also Vaush: "I've outpaced him, intellectually"

[@natjec.9226]

Truuueee thought of the same meme instantly 😂

[@jonafloppa8336]

bro is projecting extremely hard

[@CrestOfArtorias]

Is Vaush talking about himself or Destiny?

[@nilin-o2]

**Projection !**

[@glumdrop4672]

Tru tho

[@jonafloppa8336]

"His satiation for feeling intellectually superior" holy shit i didnt know vaush is getting this bad in terms of lack of selfawarness

[@theprofesionalist7927]

How are people still expecting this guy to ever work together with Destiny for anything?

[@primepossum6997]

He isn't self-aware because he has been outpaced intellectually

[@lemonheadkw2493]

@jonafloppa8336 Vaush said “His satiation for FEELING intellectually superior” which is still perhaps dumb but it is meaningfully different. I think you should edit the comment to represent him correctly

[@OwenHooper-mv4fm]

I heard every mirror in his house is broken and he avoids still pools of water. Just something I heard though. Don’t deboonk me please

[@FinleyBagley]

Repent to God christ

[@seangriffin5524]

Vaush is dripping in unintended irony

[@He-who-wakes]

I've never wanted to strangle someone this badly before

[@edanan99]

Otherwise known as projection

[@nickzumberge2861]

DRIPPING BUCKETS

[@thefeverdream]

His fans will cope and say that it has something to do with “autism” and place, no blame on him. Keep in mind he self diagnosed.

[@jamestillman3150]

He couldn’t have described himself better than he did when he thought he was describing destiny

[@ek5273]

Vaush is like the 14 year old Atheist that just found out that Noah's Arc is BS and now thinks that he is a ground breaking intellectual.

[@mariomario1462]

What does this even mean?

[@knob2974]

​@@mariomario1462 Its got that early/mid 2010s internet atheist vibe. You had to be there.

[@uhok6712]

@@mariomario1462if you haven’t met someone who learns basic things and then lectures others like they just discovered nuclear fission you are blessed

[@Rabbit4564]

this is a little too specific sounds like your own experience

[@sataniccabal4276]

I mean, not succumbing to groupthink is a good thing. This phenomenon you're complaining about wouldn't be a thing if 70% of the population wasn't religious. Bad ideas that have the most power are socially legitimized. The obnoxious atheist thing is more about delegitimizing a bad culture, not necessarily showcasing superiority. Similarly to Vaush, yes the ideas are simple--if you're familiar with them. His objective is about proliferating his ideas to a broader audience, not showcasing the nuances that necessitates an advanced degree to visualize.

[@thereccher8746]

Vaush was projecting.

[@TurtleChad1]

Destiny should honestly just come out as a conservative at this point.

[@silversalmon9909]

@@TurtleChad1 keep coping

[@thomaslodger7675]

As soon as I heard the first point made from Vaush I immediately thought "projecting"

[@coasterthekid8867]

Actually, he was streaming

[@InfiniteDeckhand]

Except he isn't.

[@dee-wreck]

Vaush talking about Destiny is a great example of "every accusation is a confession"

[@sarahmchugh4169]

​@@Seth547Uh no? People tend to see their own faults in others. But that's just based on their own judgment, it doesn't mean they're right.

[@ekhowo1475]

@@Seth547that’s not what projection means lol. Nice try

[@jdjenk04]

@@Seth547 That’s not what that means. The saying is supposed to be “projection” without saying the word projection. As in, Vaush’s characterization of Destiny is actually just a description of himself yet he is completely unaware of it.

[@DarthLetalis]

I'm not sure if there is a human being alive, or ever has been a human being that lived that LOVES the sound of their own voice as much as Vaush. He just talks. And talks. and talks. and talks. Says nothing but continues talking.

[@Kippnod]

Oh no there is one human on the planet that has a bigger and more fragile ego then vaush. His name is Hasan Piker.

[@giovalladares1022]

Look up Michael Eric Dyson in any debate

[@thesingleandleastlonely]

That’s everybody to be fair. I love Destiny because almost everything of what he says is of substance. Most people in these debater communities will give 3 or 4 examples to prove a point when you actually only need one. Destiny gives one really good example so that you get it easily and dont have to waste much time. Also, most of them will also waste time with irrelevant comments or jokes I’ve noticed. Like every time vaush talks about Destiny he has to be extra mean just to make sure everybody knows he hates him

[@sandersGG]

@@thesingleandleastlonely stop pretending like every time destiny mention vaush it's not about how oh so dumb he is

[@coasterthekid8867]

Literally every streamer

[@baka-oni8358]

u/DestinyVaush_4ever in shambles right now

[@TurtleChad1]

Vaush is quite literally the embodiment of Reddit.

[@ghostrecon3834]

bro.. but you have over 400 comments on vaush’s channel? 😭

[@sprypry]

Never mess with the reddit nation 😈💀

[@me-bf7ip]

I think its hilarious u kids talking about vaush. u wouldnt say this stuff to him at lan, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol

[@uhok6712]

Pot calling the kettle black

[@zenbozic6184]

​@@ghostrecon3834blud has 2 billion comments everywhere

[@kadmiss1750]

"Eventually they see a stream of mine and then they see who I actually am..." as a former Vaush fan, can agree...that's exactly how i ended up no longer being a Vaush fan.

[@Palemagpie]

​@storiengohow so? (Genuinely curious on your thought process)

[@jazeroliversy673]

@@Palemagpiewell lying about someone and constantly misrepresenting them in bad faith without providing proper examples is pretty toxic.

[@donksta4197]

@storiengo Guy said he is okay with Pedo stuff. Nothing he says after that has any value to me

[@veronicamunoz31]

​@@donksta4197Not a fan of Vaush at all but if I'm not mistaken, he did not defend pedophilia, he tried to make an analogy about CP and children being exploited for work, right? (Sorry for my broken English) If he actually said something positive about pedophilia can you please send a link? It's just that I have read that before but never found anything

[@Specopleader]

Destiny does that so often with Vaush and other political streamers too, especially when he reviews debates, especially Vaush debates. He consistently criticizes Vaush's debate approaches, examples, rhetoric and stupid minute details when he is in the right factually or morally, while literally ignoring the other opponent's bad faith behavior or factually-wrong stats and examples for 90% of the debate. He gaslights a lot right now.@@jazeroliversy673

[@kurainaru]

I'm so glad I hopped off the Vaush train after Rittenhouse, such a dishonest freak

[@synchronium24]

I agree with Vaush that Rittenhouse was morally culpable for driving to another place with a firearm, irresponsibly escalating the chance of violence. The same goes for Rosenbaum, Huber, and Grosskreutz who are either dead or injured. Vaush was wrong that Rittenhouse should have submitted to the mob once he was attacked.

[@FJaypewpew]

@@synchronium24I mean it’s amurika, you’re allowed guns

[@giseletheriault8633]

@@synchronium24 Rittenhouse answered the call of his community. That afternoon he was washing graffiti off the high school in Kenosha. Wisconsin believes that open carry laws discourage violence. Stupid, but normal for a 17 year old to believe it. Rittenhouse's moral intent was to prevent violence and he was protecting the businesses of Indian immigrants. He was working in town as a lifeguard and his dad and other relatives live there. He was staying with a friend. He lived in a town of about 14,000. Kenosha is the nearest "big city", of about 100K. A very deceptive picture of this young man was painted by the media and especially by the left wing.

[@mariomario1462]

​@@giseletheriault8633uh no. Nobody called him

[@croppedcrit8812]

@@mariomario1462 who called for the protests? its the same thing. if you feel your community needs it, you help if you can. both sides were doing the same thing for different reasons. So yes, he was called, in the same way any blm protester was called. its identical, and you are a brain smudge from shitting out a lobe if you disagree.

[@Achillusgaming]

I am NGL, Vaush pushed me over to Destiny. Destiny used to annoy the shit out of me, he is arrogant, condescending, can never admit when hes wrong. But man, the level of dishonesty, condescension, self-importance that Vaush manages. You can say whatever you want about Destiny, he will at least engage with your argument in an honest fashion, and bring facts and arguments to the table. Vaush is all ad-hom, modulated vocal tone and dishonesty. I bet if you look at the split between Destiny and Vaush audience, the older half goes to Destiny.

[@RustCole01]

Dude, I am almost 40 and when I was in high school and college, I would say 90% of my generation would not even have a basic idea of what a Democrat or Republican was. And thank fvcking god, because honestly... I am starting to feel like all these kids that obsess over politics, have developed biases that are forever altering the course of their lives... and not for the better. Anyway, circling back. I found Destiny by accident back in like 2017 and my coworker kept urging me to listen to Vaush. I'm telling you bro, it is hard for me to remember a time where I found someone so repulsive in such a short amount of time. He definitely has an advanced vocabulary, but, he does not sound like an adult. I was a financial advisor for close to a decade, and it irks the fvck out of me when I hear a pretentious 24 year old, spewing $10 words non-stop. It sounds so goddamn fake. Like Autistic poetry that has been fused with the most smug tone of voice imaginable

[@Achillusgaming]

@@RustCole01 100 percent agree. I am a financial analyst at a major Canadian company. And hearing him talk about business and the economy is just insanely painful. At least destiny knows what he is talking about, even tho he is frequently wrong. At least partially.

[@RustCole01]

@@Achillusgaming ya dude, something about working in finance sharpens your radar to bullsh1tters. But apparently he found a new word to replace "SALIENT". Not that either of them are big words, but ya... he used to love working the word SALIENT into one of his unbearable monologs. Guess he has graduated to SATIATE.

[@Achillusgaming]

@@RustCole01 Yeah, and in reality you just have to be inside a real business once, and see how they truly function, to know that he has this imagination about what different people at a business do and he operates based on that. We got a new managing director a few years ago and he has tripled our revenues through various aggressive strategies. And according to Vaush, it was the line workers that tripled it. And him having a high salary would not be justified by the value he adds lmfao.

[@CaffeineAndMylanta]

I agree with you on the condescension and self importance, that’s why I don’t follow his online drama shit because I don’t care, I just catch bits of him talking current events or going over research articles.

[@ParoTheUnderstander]

This is also just, not at all what sophistry is. If anything, what Vaush is claiming Destiny is doing is way more akin to what Socrates does. Socrates would argue points that he didn’t agree with to show how inept his opponents were and how incapable they were at defeating well thought out arguments. Many sophists, such as Protagoras, actually believed what they were saying.

[@charlieropesocks5793]

very true, good point

[@CrestOfArtorias]

Destiny argues the other side to understand their position, which leads to a better understanding. Which means he can better evaluate whether or not his opponent might be closer to the truth. And since Destiny only cares about being correct aka representing the truth as best as possible, this is a long way from sophistry. Ironically, Vaush by his own admission is a sophist, because he doesnt care about truth just about winning the argument, which is not one and the same.

[@ParoTheUnderstander]

@@CrestOfArtorias I may be incorrect but I thought sophists believed what they were saying, they were just incapable of defending their points soundly? My primary exposure to sophistry is through Platos dialogues, and most of the sophists seemed good faith, just incapable of comprehending their own positions.

[@CrestOfArtorias]

@@ParoTheUnderstander A person engaging in sophistry does so with the intention of deceiving the other and usually without a solid understanding of their position or intention to engage in good faith. In short, they are a liar. And Vaush stated he doesnt care about lying as long as that results in his side winning. Which is by definition pure sophistry. He will attempt to rationalize this with an argument at times but that usually doesnt go beyond "me good, you bad thus me lying is actually good, cause you bad". Most people that engage with Socrates and Plato in Plato's writing havent thought their positions through and while you do have a couple who result to sophistry when they realize they can no longer engage with Platos/Socrates and still hold on to their position, they arent outright sophists.

[@firghteningtruth7173]

​@@ParoTheUnderstander "the use of fallacious arguments, especially with the intention of deceiving."

[@danieldwyer3604]

As a conservative I like Destiny because though I don’t agree with him on everything the dude is logical, fair and good faith! Vaush is none of these

[@areichental]

I think the worst insult ever said against me was someone tried to say I was a vaush fan. I'd rather be called a nazi (jewish btw).

[@firefly9838]

Well he's logical, funny, and sincere. All things destiny is not.

[@sandersGG]

​@@firefly9838Fr lmao

[@shaun5047]

@@areichentall never followed Vaush’s content but literally every clip I’ve seen is him being super smug. Lol Oh and that crazy debate where argued the definition of water.

[@Under_the_Iceberg]

As a centrist, I think Destiny is worth listening to because he certainly goes that extra mile to be rhetorically and ethically consistent and he's very well grounded in facts, but he's anything but fair and that stands to reason because he's openly admitted that his express purpose is to draw in more voters for the democratic party. He gives far left woke progressives a hard time to draw in moderates, not because he actually has a problem with them. His criticism of the woke left amounts to "it's cringe" which isn't real criticism, is it? At the end of the day, there is no world where he recommends any republican over any democrat at any level of government and there is an inherent unfairness in this.

[@natjec.9226]

Vaush says that destiny is flexing with his intellectual superiority, but let’s remind everyone. Who was the person again who said “I’ve outpaced him, intellectually”.😂

[@Mister_Terrific806]

🤔 *"Flexing"* is typically done to impress a large group or audience as opposed to Vaush's statement being an individual comparison.

[@jp32123]

You two both need to touch grass

[@sandersGG]

​​@@Mister_Terrific806one statement out of context doesn't compare to constantly feeling this need to be intellectually superior this isn't the gotcha these clowns think it is but this low IQ shiz is what can expect from destiny's audience

[@Mister_Terrific806]

@@jp32123 Projecting?

[@natjec.9226]

@@jp32123ok?

[@hartyewh1]

He's worried that his audience is forgetting what to think😂

[@pingpongpangpee]

Vaush is projecting so hard right now 😂😂😂😂

[@andreasesser4641]

Vaush calling anyone a sophist is peak irony.

[@OBJYN788]

Lmao I remember when vaush said that is ok to lie as long as it pushes your political goals

[@youtubeviolatedme7123]

Vaush would appeal to consequentialism, arguing that the benefit of getting marginally closer to achieving political goals outweighs the harm of the lie. Vaush is also the kind of guy who would murder a random healthy person on the street to harvest and transplant their organs into hospital patients.

[@Rob-zq6bh]

Dude, I remember seeing him say that back when i was a fan and thought ‘yeah that’s reasonable’. Fast forward to now, i look back and realize just how insane what he said actually is.

[@orcanimal]

Vaush was right about everythig he said. Only he was actually talking about himself.

[@natcliffe7166]

Vaush has literally endorsed outright lying to further socialism. Destiny will at least admit when he's wrong and change position. The "agua" debate alone is proof that Vaush will literally do anything to avoid conceding a point.

[@Cornithius]

Seems like Vaush was in that Fortress arc for a little longer than he should have been 😂😂

[@GingerDrums]

The scope and extent of my intelectual humility could not reasonably be questioned by any person in full posession of their critical faculties.

[@ChainsawMac09]

His insult at the start sounded like something from a chatbot.

[@AyakaVR]

His satiation of linguistic superiority.

[@darthbrooks4933]

I would pay money to fist fight Vaush.

[@Yoroiful]

Vaush is everything I hate about people condensed into one person. It is remarkable.

[@STGSkill]

❤ Vaush manifests the worst stereotypes of progressives/leftists in so many ways. If he wasn't so fkn odious, he would actually be interesting to listen to...y'know, kinda like Destiny!

[@Dinorantsandraves]

Some people really lack self awareness and hate what they see in themselfs.

[@pixl2286]

I think Vaush has gone down a path where his satiation for his feeling of moral superiority has taken precedent over anything material in a debate

[@patricksikhrangkur8814]

I'm one such former Vaush fan that's come to realize that he just lies about people.

[@chickenandksivideoreviewer9739]

And he's just a huge fucking creep. You can only talk your way out of so many things

[@vietnamsemonky4082]

@dirt-kw7cyJaffa calling

[@cc-bk3tx]

Same it's really sad looking back believing vaush on anything

[@wickedgarden2037]

he's completely disingenuous, lazy, and has no real empathy for people. and when honest/moral people realize that, they leave his audience. only the degenerates and psychopaths stick around.

[@aleczitzelberger8123]

This is such a stupid and petty rivalry. Vaush is obviously more at fault for it, but Destiny also engages in mischaracterization of Vaush at times. Destiny also aggressively goes back on his long stated position that the Poppy drama is over and done with when he wants to score cheap rhetorical points against Vaush.

[@irnbrewhaha]

But we can keep this video though, right?

[@jbmotorsportsusa]

I agree with this opinion. I am a fan of both of them and wish they could just get over this dumb shit and start working together. Destiny definetly takes that pot and gives it a hefty stir. If you actually watch them both you would realize they have very complimentary personalities, just need to drop the ego shit. Besides and I think it gets overlooked with vaush because he can take a whole to get there OR it isn't blatantly obvious but he memes all the time but does so in the same tone and it's not obvious. I used to think the same way about destiny until I started splitting my listening time

[@sablemae8853]

He's poisoning the well of his audience so they won't even watch destiny. His growth is dead for so long

[@boodrowwilson1894]

Classic dent brained leftist, if you aren't the lowest common denominator, a 13 year old or Internet prostitute, you don't know true leftism

[@15walkingaway]

I used to tune in randomly. I stopped listening and lost all respect for him after his “Agua/aqua” embarrassment. His stuff has been boring for an even longer time. You can only stream in your room so long before it becomes super stale.

[@Vgallo]

😂😂😂 his impersonation of destiny is golden, inaccurate but still hilarious

[@aaronwrighton2271]

I still watch vaush. Ill say this from What I have seen. Vaush has not bothered at all to actually engage in any good faith interpretation of destiny. He has created a character in his head of destiny becouse he is offended and but hurt that destiny doesn't go die hard for everything he believes in. He has literally said its OK to lie if his goals can be achieved. I still watch him cause I guess there is some weird attachment.but vaush is gone. And he just like Hasan don't realize they need to change thier behavior.

[@Vin_Venture896]

How can people unironically say this shit when Destiny spends hours covering Vaush streams, bending over backwards to contradict his own previous takes just because he found out Vaush agrees with them lmao. ‘Birthing person’ being a good start, then him suddenly pretending that climate and criminality aren’t linked back during the Kai Cenat drama. Not even including the ‘NooOoOoo what if social workers are just as terrifying as cops??!?!?’ debate. Bro even said ‘I have no evidence to support this fictional scenario happening, but what if it did happen a ton?’ and people act like Destiny doesn’t debate for the sake of debating lmao

[@NotEvenCloseToMe]

@@Vin_Venture896Is this you Vaush? All of your examples are used poorly. In each of them the context makes all statements viable and good faith.

[@asenseofunreality6880]

​@@Vin_Venture896the classic vaush tactic 'lie because its ok if it furthers my goal and ideology' you are not foolin anyone bub

[@THRAKORZOD]

@@NotEvenCloseToMe No

[@roteschwert]

Vaush is still reeling from the time he got destroyed in the Rittenhouse discussion. Ngl this guy should've just immediately quit after botching the "agua" debate

[@MarroniMusic]

Vaush is THE WORST

[@monsterhunter30001]

Far from it. He could be a conservative.

[@travistravinyle4207]

If Reddit was one person it's Vaush

[@caiden7800]

New donation notification sound?

[@youtubegoogleb]

Justice for the horse 🐴 Vaush GRAPED ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿

[@richardhands904]

What happened, I need to know

[@Platelunchexpress]

Vaush thinks he’s one of the smartest people on the planet.

[@dmusiclife5727]

No, he’s just a narcissist

[@alize_I]

@@dmusiclife5727 Most narcissists overestimate their intelligence, so the OP is right in a sense

[@darkmoon137]

The ultimate projection

[@MrRyan26]

I was a huge fan of Bausch but I’ve started listening to you way more because I notice you research a lot more and have a better understanding of policy and statistics.

[@wickedgarden2037]

so u started at the bottom, and you're working your way up. destiny is fine. well, most of us were ignorant anarchists/socialists/commies at some point in our young days. what helps is when you are faced with an unpopular truth; to not just reject it, but DIG. and keep digging. truth/honesty isn't popular en masse for a reason. it's easier to fool someone than convince them they've been fooled.

[@nathangordon4891]

Vaush reminds me of Peter Griffin in the episode when he wins a game of Trivial pursuit

[@PabbyPabbles]

I am returned from satiating a carbohydrate-rich comestibles deficiency

[@unkleskunky]

he's literally doing the thing he accused you of. His desire to feel superior has overwhelmed his capacity to be rational.

[@MigApex]

Bet bro is still pissed because of the Rittenhouse debate lol

[@fiachracasey7625]

Id love if someone just transcribed a vaush rant and tried to have normal people read it out loud

[@scottiecurrie7927]

Not Vaush talking about "the satiation of the feeling of intellectual superiority" when there's video evidence of Vaush admitting that he bases his moral compass off of Marvel movies. Sounds like he's projecting because Destiny tore him apart in that Rittenhouse debate

[@JoshuaKhosa]

Vaush is a bad faith person. I do not like him at all.

[@doolbeepi3059]

Its like when Spider-Man points at Spider-Man.

[@chandler7493]

If anything, accusing someone of playing devil's advocate is sophistry, ie instead of directly addressing the argument you go after the reasons someone is making it.

[@Oyster--]

Of course Vaush is going to denigrate playing devil's advocate. Devil's advocate is basically indirect steel-manning and Vaush is disinterested in actually holding a position that can beat a steel-manned opposition; in fact, he's much more keen on straw-manning for the appearance of a victory, as he's said himself. Which makes it incredibly stupid of him to say that Destiny is causing problems for debate when what Vaush does is actually harmful to honest discourse.

[@kmgyening]

I think it's because Vaush is a "consequentialist" and is obsessed with power and winning, even in debates.

[@THRAKORZOD]

@@kmgyening We should be winning I don't care how we do

[@kmgyening]

@THRAKORZOD Who do you mean by "we" and what do you mean when you say "winning?"

[@floydohonetwo-ds7pe]

What game is Destiny playing?

[@j.c6204]

I’m confused. Like Steven Said: What is he talking about? Ask him. Directly! Why not?

[@Palemagpie]

I dont know man, you were pretty weak in that "black conservatives vs white liberals" thing.

[@msdd7610]

not really?

[@LeftMap]

1:00 Vausch reads the thesaurus thoroughly to confuse his point in unique vocabulary.

[@fyshfysh1281]

Wait there gonna be on stage together? I'm sure nothing could happen that would make things not chill.

[@zevkurtzman8108]

"Consequences of Erudite Vernacular Utilized Irrespective of Necessity: Problems with Using Long Words Needlessly."

[@infinite4035]

"His satiation for intellectual superiority", there is nothing wrong with taking pleasure in your work, it has nothing to do with being a martyr or not. You should watch the car scene in se7en where Morgan Freeman asks the killer this.

[@sunmoon2291]

5:12 "When you're watching content creators and they talk about other streamers you should ask for a clip or source" Wish he kept this same energy for when he lets Train go on unhinged schizo rants about the shadowy cabal of PG-13 streamers conspiring against him.

[@Vin_Venture896]

Wish he kept this same energy when he went on a mass banning spree after his subreddit called him out for simping for Nick Fuentes and arguing ‘Nooooo he’s not a Nazi! Why do you guys just call everyone you don’t like a Nazi!??’ Lmao. Subreddit brought the video receipts of his exact listed definition of a Nazi (which he stated in 3 separate videos) and then when other multiple videos demonstrated that Nick met these standards, he just banned the poster and said ‘You can’t call me out for takes I had 3 years ago’, which is pretty funny considering Destiny cited takes Vaush had in HIGH SCHOOL in his manifesto lmaoooooo

[@famalam943]

Vaush saying destiny is up his own ass is hilarious. I mean it’s true, but hilarious coming from V

[@trapsarentgaymcgee5202]

[@seesharper8913]

Vaush calling someone else a sophist?

[@LabTech41]

Look up "Dark Triad" personality types, and tell me you can't find Vaush being perfectly summed up.

[@Altobrun]

Can confirm destiny's hunch. Watched Destiny back in the sc2 days, but hadn't heard about him for years. I occasionally dipped into the politics side of youtube and while I was never a regular viewer I would occasionally watch some of Vaush's bigger videos. Heard him mention Destiny and just assumed it was true for like a full year before I got recommended a Destiny video. Watched a few and say Vaush was pretty blatantly mischaracterising a lot of Destiny's position.

[@mlgfin]

I love how in the first 30 seconds, Vaush says that about Destiny, but Vaush always uses big words that no one ever uses ever and he talks like he tryna write longer sentences for his 5 paragraph essay.

[@FoxfireDraven]

Destiny actually did do this at some point! He actually took a position he doesnt believe to show how they cant even ground their opinions with a fucking star wars movie... not politics

[@HellaSayHella]

Is Vaush considered a lolcow yet?

[@ThatGSguy]

Chat... for the love of god teach this man about the zoom function in Satisfactory

[@Observette]

“Intellectual superiority” Omg the projection is real! 😂

[@johnnymcjohnson1373]

Vaush is projecting so hard lmao

[@Trizzer89]

Vaush not being a good guy? What a surprise

[@byronbraddock]

I think an example of what he's talking about was when he was arguing with a divorce attorney about divorce statistics. Like here you have someone who's dedicated their life to a career and you're weighing your Google searching to his experiences even amongst his peers. To quote Destiny "in my opinion".

[@thespider2859]

I watch destiny.. destiny definitely does this

[@8eight104]

Vaush is just as much as a problem as Destiny. It's all toxic, and I say this as a fan of these videos.

[@brianb4877]

It’s actually sad. I stumbled upon Vaush’s content from TJ Kirk, even before Destiny. His takes have been so bad for the last two years. I don’t even buy that he believes his own fallacies as he constantly misrepresents people.

[@Patoni2012]

I can't be the only one the make this comparison, does Vaush look like Alex Yiik from YIIK: A postmodern RPG to anyone?

[@alexscottthompson812]

Personally, I find the superfluous verbosity of Vasush's musing to be exquisitely uproarious, no matter irreverent or simpleminded they may be. Guffaw.

[@cruelreality7600]

Absurd levels of projection.

[@kalplays9922]

I didn’t read Vaush’s statement as a joke at all. That sounded completely sincere and unironic to me

[@meverith1735]

2:50 says the Agua guy LUL + W

[@kingragnork]

As an independent Trump supporter and center right leaning, i listen to Destiny often and absolutely wish more like him existed. We can coexist with different opinions! Vaush is just a despicable human.

[@brainworm666]

How do you figure you’re “centre right leaning” when you’re a Trump supporter? Interesting… is there a political ideology you identify most with and how does that square up to Trump and his general politics? Genuinely interested here!

[@THRAKORZOD]

@@brainworm666 They don't have a ideology they just hate Mexicans and taxes

[@Jake-sg1xr]

What game is he playing?

[@Novous]

It's absolutely adorable to hear someone on recorded tape say that devils advocate is a bad thing. The idea that everyone, even the most unliked minority, deserves to have their case heard being... a bad thing. He might as well be saying empathy is evil.

[@Azihayya]

To me, it seems like Vaush has plateaued when it comes to his intellectual capacity. Instead of seeing him grow, we've just seen him dig his heels into thinking that he's right about everything and has everything figured out--and even when you take this as a joke (which it could be), it's evidently not, when all of his arguments are bad faith and his only interest is in hyperbole. Instead of embracing the Western value of communally seeking the truth, Vaush is only interested in trying to humiliate the people he debates with, and in the end all that this has done is just make him look incredibly weak, and now it's just embarrassing when he tries to debate people who you really want to see get put in their place, because he's doing nothing for the good guys. He's got a great sense of humor and a good sense of justice, but I just don't enjoy listening to him any more. By contrast, when Destiny speaks with people, it feels like he's really listening, and he asks clarifying questions and tries to get to the core of the issue--and as a listener, I find that so much more engaging. When Vaush debates people, he doesn't listen to anything they're saying and constantly tries to mischaracterize them and attack their character. It makes for a really uninteresting viewer experience and gets us nowhere. I feel like if Andrew, that one guy--you know who I'm talking about--addicted to excuses and cigarettes--were to bring the argument that he brought to Vaush to Destiny, that Destiny would actually have been able to dismantle him. I don't think he would even bother to bring those points to Destiny, because he knows he would get owned. Instead, I got to hear Vaush flounder for two and a half hours trying to score a point on the guy, and it just made him seem more reasonable.

[@sandersGG]

Vaush did not flounder that debate with Andrew just keep coping 💀

[@Azihayya]

@@sandersGG You could barely tell that Andrew looked bad given how bad Vaush looked and how poor his rhetoric was. If you didn't know any better, and you watched that, you might start to think that Christian nationalism and patriarchy looks pretty good because Vaush came across as such a dipshit. If there was anything to glean from that debate, you would miss it because it was so stupid and intolerable. But there wasn't. Nobody said anything of value that whole time.

[@sandersGG]

@@Azihayya Andrew used divine Bs to defend his positions vaush Rightfully and balanty showed how that was fascist Vaush brought facts and data showing how policies have increased pregnancies or whatever Vaush pointed out how pregnancies rates aren't free Falling like Andrew claimed Vaush proved how banning abortions isn't gonna fix systemic issues such as health care and wages

[@sandersGG]

@@Azihayya the debate was hardly about Christian nationalism for you to characterize it as the main topic of the debate shows how probably didn't watch it which would explain why you're still being vague with the details

[@sandersGG]

@@Azihayya and if vaush was so bad in that debate why hasn't Destiny reacted to it instead of watching clip after the debate but whatever

[@tryhardfinessedyou]

"That was the most difficult optics juggle ive ever done." -Vaush

[@01zerocool01]

Ian is a Linguistic Sorcerer.

[@NaZtRdAmUs]

The self projection is real with Vaush here.

[@Audacity_69]

New Superiority Drip just dropped

[@feruspriest]

I was definitely a Vaush to Destiny pipeliner.

[@TempestKnight16]

The social workers take from destiny was pretty wild and makes me think he doesn't believe in it.

[@wiseone1013]

I think he is saying Destiny is being a contrarian with people on the left, not because he believes in the contrarian view, but simply in order to make the leftist in question look stupid. I don't agree with Vaush but this seems to me what he is saying. He doesn't like it when Destiny points out any inconsistency or irrational left wing belief of any kind, because it makes his side look bad or appear stupid.

[@BruceLee-qc2lm]

I don't like Vaush but it's pretty true. Recently I just see Destiny as a contrarian. I've seen him debate a point, then a day later debate for the opposite point. Goes from being a little right wing to making up strawmans about all conservatives. Even when he knows what he's saying is not true, he doesn't care. It's just to win the argument.

[@spurezurko]

Vaush is a textbook example of intelectual jealousy. His narcissism stems from inferiority that he feels when tehre's someone smarter than himslef in the room (which is often, as it seems).

[@jdarling5315]

He misuses or mispronounces all the ten cent words he loves like half the time

[@CisternRumblings]

Vaush is... wow, lmao.

[@death2link]

I was watching destiny first and went through a phase where I started watch vaush more, after their duo debate etc. It was very much his blatant misrepresentation of destiny's positions that made me stop watching. Wouldn't be surprised to see a decent amount of his fans move over after their on stage thing that's coming up since they'll actually see what destiny really believes for the first time in years

[@kalplays9922]

This jubilee video brought out the two biggest differences between Hasan and Vaush and their ways of hating Steven. Hasan just hits him with the guh-nome and poisoning-the-well comments without giving any substantive criticism. And then you got Vaush over here who liked the way Steven was sitting but then hardcore projected his superiority complex on to him. Lmao

[@RestorationsFOD]

Wow pot calling the kettle black

[@sofielundsskolan]

It's so obvious to anyone with a brain and who isn't knee deep in streamer brain rot that Vaush was joking, even without going back 30s lol. Source: I haven't seen Vaush content in ages, and only watch Destiny once every 6 months when I'm bored. Destiny has his fair share of blind spots, and it's kinda sad how he probably doesn't even realize that he's deflecting by stipulating what kind of apologies would need to be supplied him before he considers building bridges again, when he is guilty of the very same behaviour he wants apologies for. He does that kind of joke all the time about others as far as I can tell, even just from the limited stuff I've watched during my current Destiny cycle. Even the thing about Vaush's audience's proclivities applies to himself and his own audience, judging from the comments here at least. If these manbabies could just chill for a second they could stop injecting themselves into each other's brains in a really convoluted and stupid game of "he started it" but I guess you're at a unique disadvantage if you do this for a living

[@ihsahnakerfeldt9280]

"He's joking" Holy shit that's your defense?

[@sofielundsskolan]

@@ihsahnakerfeldt9280 and here's the case in point lmao. there's no defending anyone in what I said, but your tribalistic lizard brain read that into it anyway. pointing out flaws in Destiny is anathema to you so your knee jerk reaction is to attack anyone doing so

[@THRAKORZOD]

@@ihsahnakerfeldt9280 Youve used the same one for DesTINY

[@fuzzyface1507]

I might be wrong… I think Vaush said from what he remembers of Destiny when he used to watch his content. As a Vaush fan I only watch destiny because destiny talks about Vaush. I don’t see much Vice versa.

[@martyspandex]

Remember when Vaush debated that Dr of Philosophy on transgenderism and had his beard served to him.

[@epicjason21]

Vaush telling people the problem is destiny’s intellectual superiority all while talking like he graduated from Yale 😂