Destiny Moderates Aba's Debate w/ Feminist That Dislikes Him

[@destiny]

Destiny STRUGGLES In HEATED Debate, BEGS FOR HELP From Aba, NoJumper Sharp And Fanatiq ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/d57SmJerndCbgK8 Preach Addresses Aba's Recent Controversy. ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKq6aqF-fpqZbLM

[@IkeTheBuilder]

Please review the Dj Akademiks vs Hasan Debate on stream.

[@staticcast6099]

@UCJWs5I8LWuOg_QNvjbPwdGw It’s not my preferred content either but we hear these topics come up because it seems important for a lot of people

[@wisemage0]

Steven...

[@bskiez]

*1:15:50* she literally admits that she worships Steven for being white inadvertently and continues to abuse black men cause white progressives & Neo con friends allow it as long as it's within her race. This is why JustPearly is where she's at and that's why Black men elevated her. That is all.

[@KUROhashi14]

Its just simps letting a crazy dumb girl be racist towards her own kind.

[@MrDdchavis]

She literally pre judged Aba thinking he mainly dates white women but had someone generalized her based on the comments about black men she'd be irate

[@geeesejeeeze6055]

Yup. She sounds white washed.

[@guy3641]

She also assumed that Aba’s been around all white men “rubbing shoulders with them” when all of his friends outside of Destiny are strong black men lmao

[@ayemoe5842]

Heavy projection on her part

[@damitrithorne7284]

She's a black woman who has been hurt by black men, so she just assume all black men are against her

[@AntenDS]

She hates when people jump to conclusions with her but she jumps to the same stereotypical conclusions with Aba. She is a Pink Pill extremist.

[@TribeByNoire]

Aba is so much more socially intelligent than she is and it's hilarious how well he's handling her 🤣

[@Teflon-Juan]

It's absolutely beautiful to observe lol

[@zkart8038]

Not just socially. Logically and emotionally too.

[@asimplewizard]

Aba is my favorite guy in the destiny sphere. "You are my token white friend in this situation."

[@leonabug619]

Ok but Aba already had his own world with Preach, so it's 2 world combined

[@nicholaswalker5053]

When he called destiny his ‘friend with the white complexion’ I almost lost it 😂 It’s like ‘ah yes, you sir, with the face and the whiteness, help me out here’

[@MzChevyBlu]

As a black person I can say I constantly hear conversations condemning gangsta rap, and violence in the black community. I hear celebrities, local leaders, regular people having these conversations.

[@averywealthyman4194]

True but They shouldn’t condemn it tho. It’s just art and entertainment

[@brittanymiller568]

@@averywealthyman4194 Please stay in your lane and don't open your mouth on something that you clearly know nothing about. It's absolutely not just art and entertainment, there has been a gang beef in my city for the last 5 years between two groups of rappers and to date 11 innocent bystanders have been killed, including a 2 year old girl. Every time one of them kills an "opp" they make a new song about it, all of this is being done to sell music and it works, they have racked up hundreds of millions of views because people love that the violence is real. It is vile and parents are burying real children to sell music because people think that actual murderers are way cooler than people who pretend to be murderers. Really stop and think about that. "Just arts and entertainment" did it never occur to you that maybe the people whose family are dying because of the music you listen to in order to feel tough know a little better than you?

[@morgangreen2601]

@@averywealthyman4194 they can condemn whatever they want

[@drwalka10]

All talk this is true … not the w u think this is

[@MzChevyBlu]

@@drwalka10 I never said it was a win. I said it is a conversation I have heard. That is all

[@fab12xd]

I just love how Aba just kept saying "FACTS" or "TRUE" when Anaalicia said something insane LMAO

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

"You're smug, you're condescending and you think you're smarter than you actually are." ~Anna

[@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher]

Self awareness is not one of her many positive traits

[@brella7920]

Feminism bro

[@MrVIrginiaLUV]

@@brella7920 Is that feminism or just her personality?

[@aSSGoblin1488]

a shining example of a single black mom

[@brella7920]

@@MrVIrginiaLUV maybe

[@musa1946]

Bro Aba is legit one of the funniest dudes in the orbit. His constant MMMMM just cracks me up

[@ryohio4706]

Same, lmao. Every time somebody says something rediculous, I just hear him do the "HMMMMM", 🤣

[@thematic3893]

@@ryohio4706 he needs to throw in a few “YAS QWEEN”’s in there 😂.

[@Dinofrogg]

Hyo hyo hyo hyo hyo~

[@eddieisfiction442]

i think it’s destiny that’s in Aba’s orbit.

[@brodrickflowers117]

The amount of time her brain shit down after Aba made a point or fully answered a question she asked 😂

[@PurpleColonel]

I'd correct you but I think "shit down" is apt

[@brodrickflowers117]

@@PurpleColonel I was gonna correct it, but then I was like...nah lol

[@baileychandra492]

Aba trolling through most of this conversation is a level of "not giving a fuck" that I wish to ascend to.

[@randomyoutubecommenterr]

The craziest part about Annalicia is she pins all the blame on black men for staying poor, quoting statistics that prop up black women, while denigrating black men. All while ignoring the context of these statistics. Cue the old saying "Lies, damned lies, and statistics. I really ... really want someone to ask her if black women have any responsibility in maintaining poor socioeconomic status in these poor black communities as "statistically" they're far less likely to use birth control such as the pill compared to all other racial groups. Resulting in the largest margin of unwanted pregnancies which is definitely in the top 3 reasons for people staying poor in life. I COULD use that statistic and just rag on poor black womens for their terrible choices blah blah blah. Or I could look at some context that doesn't just paint them in a terrible light and try to be more nuanced.

[@adlwas8176]

"BLACK WOMEN HAVE BEEN DOING BETTER EVEN WITH THE KIDS. AND WITHOUT THE HELP OF BLACK MEN!!" "BUT BLACK MEN HAVE BEEN DEGENERATE AND FAILING!!" - Probably Annalicia

[@cramax4871]

You could but it would probably fall short. She could push back with something for example thaz black man use condoms less than any other race. Im jusz guessing what she would do. Not sure if these stats even exist. But she probably has talking points for all of this. And tbh when it comes to research and stats she is prepared and winning.

[@gelonvia8525]

She was asked in the last conversation she's in on Destiny's channel with the other 3 guys that exact same question, and she cherry picked the examples to continue on her ideals that black man are the problem, and black women are completely innocent and these saviors of the black race who are hyper competent. I agree with taking responsability for your own actions, but ONLY your own actions, other peoples actions and choices that harm you are not something you have to take any responsability for. She's literally just a sexist misandrist.

[@lyn8704]

black women have more degrees than black men. they make more than black men. in black households, almost half of them have women as the breadwinners. black men physically abuse black women at high rates. black men in the manosphere have consistently screeched and bashed black women and called us bad, but when black women return that hatred then we have to stop? have you seen what Fresh and Fit have said to black women? this is just karma to black men. you bash us then we will bash you back

[@stephenzavatski8016]

Or we could, you know, hold people accountable for their actions in general instead of using them as an excuse to throw more money at them.

[@roadrunne255]

Her eye rolling is on another level; you can feel the hate and dismissiveness. Actually painful.

[@aSSGoblin1488]

is she a black single mom?

[@TheTerry1020]

I thought she was the undertaker 🤣

[@mgm8075]

@@aSSGoblin1488 SHE IS, I just found that out lately which explains so much.

[@ON-ry8iw]

@@mgm8075 how did you find out?

[@mgm8075]

@@ON-ry8iw there was another stream she was debating on where the host asked if she was a single mom and she said "yes, me and the guy were in a relationship, had a baby before marriage, and then split up"

[@damirmclean5501]

She rolled her eyes every time he opened his mouth she didn't want to have a conversation she wanted to yell and tell him how much she disliked him and to watch destiny kinda tap dance with her is crazy

[@buibear88]

This girl learned the word degenerate and never looked back

[@lustrazor44]

Well if you didn’t understand why men commit suicide at higher rates, this convo will explain why.

[@ActuallyEvil2]

😂😂😂

[@LuckiestManAlive]

Honestly... God help the man who ends up in a relationship with this woman. Her facial expressions, her eye rolling, her emotions, her ideology, her unwillingness to actually engage with certain questions unless she's pressed.. And worst of all, the complete lack of self-awareness when she justifies calling a dark black man "burnt". These are all the signs of a woman that is more than likely to make your life miserable if you don't live it exactly the way she wants you to.

[@marcellusayana7389]

It’s gon be a white man, he’ll be ight from what I’ve seen.

[@Channel-23s]

This girl feels like she is against Aba on the basis of him having different views rather then being wrong and a bit of phrasing

[@sammykent5752]

Nah it's because he's black

[@lirolo8343]

She's the female sneako 💀

[@MISOGANY]

@@lirolo8343 Nah. That’s actually offensive to SNEAKO. This woman comes off as borderline evil.

[@Mr.Rendo1]

@@MISOGANY I would agree

[@Takobella]

@@lirolo8343 lmao 💯

[@lustrazor44]

Black men this. Black men this. Lady, who is raising these black men? If it isn’t the black men as you say, how can the women be blameless? The fucking audacity of this woman.

[@lidiagizaw3828]

lol ok so u go raise ur kids alone with zero help from all the men then come back and talk about how it's your fault when the fathers did literally nothing their whole lives

[@123sleepygamer]

@@lidiagizaw3828 Even if you suffered and went through the wringer raising one, if you raised a degenerate monster all of it was for nothing anyway.

[@neonrays28]

So absent father's are blameless?

[@dbz287]

@@neonrays28 no, both is where he’s getting at. Just like Aba was saying.

[@ibeyoutubin2]

@@dbz287 neither side likes being held accountable

[@jerielramirez2782]

I swear Anna has Steven’s son captive or something because there is no way in gods green earth that this unhinged behavior would fly for anyone else

[@ryohio4706]

Seems like a lot of people noticed the bizarre level of leeway and charitability Steven had for her despite her insanity. It is kinda weird tho, I feel like he would've completely discarded almost anybody acting anything like this, 100%, I don't understand how or why he's saying she's not that bad and has good points?

[@ryohio4706]

@@HaraQuinn i 100% agree. Idk, Steven keeps on harping about this "anti-mysoginy arc", but it seems like it's only ever brought up when somebody makes a slightly edgy joke or says something that Steven interprets as even mildly misogynist, it just seems dishonest and kinda dumb the way hes been bringing it up lately. And like you said, for the MOST part, dumb people usually get the shit they deserve and the good people get praised, like Erudite, people like her cause she's chill, kind, can engage with banter really well, isn't sensitive and is very intelligent amongst other things, and people like Lav/Mr.Girl get rightfully lambasted because a lot of what they say is completely idiotic, a contradiction or provocative in a bad way.

[@stbsole]

I think it’s because his pushback would be perceived at misogyny. I agree he should have went back at her but her talking about the plight of the black male is sort of out of destiny’s wheelhouse. It’s why he kept asking his black allies to speak on the subject.

[@mario167100]

One of the few times I wished Nebraska Steve would come back.

[@nicholaswalker5053]

I think he’s trying to keep building bridges and maybe hopes he can be a platform where her ideas are explored and their limitations or flaws are discussed while also promoting education on the issues at hand

[@eestsydexo]

yall notice how she smiles when Destiny speaks then how bitter her face gets when Aba speaks? she is the same person that says I.dont hate black men, the proceeds to say “this is why I hate black men because (insert reason here)”

[@aarron4723]

Yo i swear. Aba finessed this woman so hard. He's hilarious. He literally let her hang herself with her own prejudice laughing the whole time!

[@tjay9764]

Friends with cynthia G this makes way more sense now

[@ChipCheerio]

Are we 100% sure she isn’t just Fuentes in disguise? I feel like I could hear almost everything she says from him.

[@rekpekurede]

As wrong as Fuentes can be, I have never felt riled up when watching the guy, he isn't even remotely as hateful as this dog Steven allowed to speak to us.

[@ChipCheerio]

@@rekpekurede I mean we all expect Fuentes to say what he says, but he’s layered in irony and banter. She’s just outright hateful towards black men.

[@SKrillexDubstepFiend]

This woman is the female version of Uncle Ruckus

[@thematic3893]

She wouldn’t say no to Destiny’s seed.

[@danielnoahalie9186]

YES 100 % TRUE

[@zkart8038]

Except she's sexist. She only blames black men and act as if the women aren't responsible. But somehow also claims that men and women are equal and yet only the men beat the responsibility.

[@awillaway015]

Ok so as a black man who's from America as a descendent of slaves I've got some serious criticism for destiny over this. 1.) You brought someone who seriously is hateful of black men, you know she is, and she absolutely doesn't care about the facts of the matter. She ranted and yelled over everyone and denigrated and insulted everyone who came to defend against get position. It's not a matter of disagreeing. She straight up was vitriolic to back men while not even giving any nuance. This was 3 hours of the most racist extremist talking points against black men in history and you just let her do it. Lately you've been going too far on the empathy thing. Sometimes empathy is toxicity. 2.) you can't attribute a negative reaction from your entire audience to just lacking empathy from a different point of view. You're just running a failing platform if you think your audience is so retarded to social and internal mechanisms that they can't comprehend your intent and still say it's not good. Not all content is good content. I'm not gonna sit here and do the thing of demanding you to change how you run your plaform, but it's a rare day when someone can say that something is obviously wrong and this is it. 3.) There are times when people who are not part of an ethnic group are capable of speaking on behalf of another. It doesn't matter if you have limited experience in other ethnic groups. This is your platform and you endorsed colorism and racism. Just because something like minority racism is common didn't make it right. You absolutely have a place to stop someone doing that. That's pure evil. Being lighter skinned doesn't matter. No one cares about the white savior stuff. 4.) bringing people on who you think you can't push back against isn't good if you can't bring people on who can push back. You're just platforming hate without responsibility. You're trading misogyny for misandry and racism in this video. I'm not gonna pretend that telling you how to run your platform is the right thing to do, but when you act as if your audience is too retarded and socially inept to understand your mission and only sticks around for the love to hate them content then you're fundamentally failing at your job. You can't dismiss everyone's criticism and hand wave how inflammatory and disgusting the things she said were. She didn't offer proper evidence or rebuttal to counter fanatic. She came at aba horribly and if aba wasn't patient then it would've ended like it did with 4thot. She didn't know aba or 4hot but used inflammatory and horrible racist and disgusting rhetoric to demean them. She was one of the worst people on this and we can't pretend this wasn't severely mishandled. You may disagree, but I believe the pushback from your community after she left is indicative of the point I'm making being valid. You don't have to make any changes based on what I say but I ask you to seriously consider it. Please understand you're a really unique person who can meet stuff like this roll off your back when directed to you or that you're one of the few people capable of researching on your own. It's very hurtful to have an internet pillar platform hate directed to me with little pushback and it being the stuff I see told about myself all over the world knowing most people don't care to try to understand anything about me and my community.

[@ON-ry8iw]

This was a great comment. Idk why he’s being unchallenging to her tbh

[@nerdcruncher]

Cuz he’s doing his simp pimp shit and wants to add her to his harem

[@HeroicGeno]

Solidarity, fellow Black man.

[@JaYLeGnD]

I feel like he did this for content same as every other creator

[@leonabug619]

Listening to her for 5 mins shows how awful and biased she is. But your comment explained perfectly how detrimental it was for Destiny to not only have her on and just let her spew her hatred, but how compliant he was to her opinions. It's almost like he agrees with her.

[@perryfisto7437]

I dislike Anna more than Lav. And that’s saying a lot. This girl is everything she says about other people. She can’t have a simple conversation without screaming the second someone says something she doesn’t like. My guess is, she will be single for life.

[@Gchildwarrior]

@@Section8dc Don't put the cats through that. They are creatures that deserve care that she will never provide

[@lyn8704]

@@Section8dc black men need to worry about their crime statistics and their low unemployment rates instead of cat ladies lmao.

[@lonewaer]

@@Gchildwarrior Yeah I was gonna say, poor cats. "Meow" "Aw my god"

[@hermilo9613]

She’s conflicted with dating outside her race, but she’ll end up with some white dude based off her hate on black men

[@DontReadMyUserName_]

@@Gchildwarrior LOL right, I loved KS but hated when he told women to get a dog/cat and die alone. Leave the poor animals out of it, they don't deserve these people either.

[@catPENGUINpony]

That Ana chick must be a blast at parties. She must have a ton of friends. Just a PSA, be careful not to listen to this discussion with the volume too loud. Her screeching harpy voice can shatter glass.

[@lyn8704]

black men in the manosphere have consistently screeched and bashed black women and called us bad, but when black women return that hatred then we have to stop? have you seen what Fresh and Fit have said to black women? this is just karma to black men. you bash us then we will bash you back

[@lidiagizaw3828]

yeah coz all women need to be is friendly at parties . how about u grow a braincell and attack the arguments

[@catPENGUINpony]

@@lidiagizaw3828 I realize you’re probably too dim to recognize a joke, but that’s what it was. I really don’t consider screeching out vitriol and insults for hours on end an “argument”, but ok. lol

[@SketchyJesus]

Dumb Dumb: “If that’s true (women overvaluing themselves) then wouldn’t that mean that men overvalue themselves too?” Aba: “Ya. That’s why I said some men and some women overvalue themselves. Both do it” Dumb Dumb: “Well, I don’t get how you can say that some women overvalue themselves.” 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ you can’t make this shit up

[@hawk622]

I love what Aba is doing in this. It’s not necessarily great for dialogue, but it is entertaining and hilarious.

[@Sir_Cube]

I am blown away by how charitable destiny is towards her. The fact that he would call her above average intelligence, and that its not his place to correct her? If destiny is going to run defense for open racism, and accuse people of being sexist for attacking her, then he is not prepared for these conversations.

[@victoriaodegaard1]

People can be intelligent and also incorrect or racist

[@rulerofkripsy9143]

@@victoriaodegaard1 No they can’t incredibly low emotional intelligence . Makes you seem pretty ausitic to any normal person .

[@clockwork2620]

I totally agree. He is providing a platform for someone who’s intent is to spread hateful vitriol towards black men

[@marcellusayana7389]

Above average was really pushing it man, she mildly articulate tho, just not concise reasonable or rational lmao

[@IntellectGuy]

I think destiny knows many bitter black divestor women will flock to his channel .

[@trl2342]

Her attempt to disassemble facts: repeat the same question in a slightly different format over and over until someone folds to her idealized perspective. Like talking to an ai created with the inability to accept they may be wrong and their only operation is forcing their view on others.

[@jed52]

The fact that she said she's friends with Cynthia G told me everything I need to know.

[@Mrballerize]

Yo as soon as she used the conservative dogwhistle "degeneracy" as it relates to black men, and black culture; I already knew what time it was. Smh 🤦‍♂️

[@mauinix4563]

Human embodiment of why you can't create a world view around personal anger and resentment

[@jimporfit]

The one minute caller said that a large contributing factor to the hardships of the black community is that they dont have internet access. Internet access is not a luxury. It's a necessary cost for survival in this modern world. It's as necessary as food, in a way.

[@willieboip]

The anti-misogyny arch might lead up to the anti-racism arch cuz of this lady

[@brandonstreete]

aba is so good at communicating his ideas i can tell when he is trolling mid serious convo

[@wiredvibe1678]

Idk at the end there seems like Destiny is capping hard. She gave me hard pure prejudice against black men specifically. Reading the comments on a Cynthia G video I see a lot of hate against black men and applause for securing non-black partners, especially white men. Race is very important to these people.

[@Aliyaaaa]

Tbh the ending was weird af. He tried too hard. We do not have to excuse everyone's bad behavior.

[@wiredvibe1678]

@@Aliyaaaa I now think he's trying to make these people comfortable so they come back and say what they really think to generate more dollars.

[@JahmBProducts]

All of her emotions are clouding her mind, and making it impossible for her to think critically. It's literally playing out in real time.

[@lidiagizaw3828]

she cites all stats . where is she not being critical lmao

[@JahmBProducts]

@@lidiagizaw3828 There's a difference between "being critical" (which means to have criticism against something or someone) vs thinking critically (which means to finely analyze and understand something or someone.) So yes, I do agree she's being critical. It's ok to criticize someone based on what information you've processed, the issue is most of the time she's doing this straight from the beginning without clearly thinking or understanding the point of what Aba's arguing. Then Destiny has to jump in and explain to her or for her like he's her translator. lol... I'm not sure if you've noticed this from listening. Yes, she cites stats but doesn't want to accept any information which may counter her research, that's not critical thinking.

[@BenjiViews]

I’m honestly trying to figure out how someone can be Loud like that for that long. She obviously has deep rooted hatred for black men but continues to deny what everyone sees about her. The fact that she is good friends with The synthetic G also makes alot of sense about her views towards black men. Hopefully she gets some therapy in the future, she seems very stressed and angry at anything that has to do with a person being black and a man🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Dark_Tesla]

Destiny is playing the long game to make us appreciate Lav

[@Andy-qf1kc]

It doesn't work, they team up and lav gets worst.

[@zaktilzer5130]

I hate when people dont have the courage to talk directly about their point of view.

[@EddiePReacts]

She refuses to get to the point. She's combative even when it isn't necessary

[@MrBlackraven2488]

This girl came in with no argument at all. She fell to pieces once fasted with an intelligent black man with facts to propose

[@AwkwardSplatter]

Her argument is clearly men bad lol

[@dukebebop4200]

Ya know, it’s interesting listening to the way Analicia will respond to some of the things other people say. I’m reminded that school is mostly a memorization game, and that you can be “scholarly” and yet posses so little critical thinking skills at all. Simple things can be said that just go right over her head. She can remember statistics and data for days yet cannot engage with a topic in a self-thinking, coherent manner.

[@Ky-ma-ro]

Omg she's a Cynthia supporter... Enough said.

[@menace2society759]

"Maybe youre right but I dont care" real and based

[@disheveling]

59:47 "Steven, you're my best friend" She inhaled and let out a smile when she said that.. She's getting endorphins from that statement, I guess she really means it, the first person to really validate her online.. She probably doesn't have many friends.. Must be lonely.. That's pretty sad.. People are silly and fickle, to avoid someone because they're contentious or critical of social truths, even if they're attractive, or maybe especially so

[@rekpekurede]

Steven is easy for her to use is all she means. What other big platform would freely give her the permission to be this idiotic? Even the KKK probably get tired after a while but not the chill Steven😂

[@chrisn7986]

Yh I caught that too kinda makes me feel bad for her (not really tho)

[@ShadeThaArtist]

You can't be that aggressive and spit in people's faces and then cry about not finding people that like you online. Then you probably align yourself with people like Cynthia G and not understand how someone can find you repulsive. Call her simply aligning herself with destiny as a microphone only goes to the prototypical anti-black mentality that she openly houses but cannot recognize. She is no different than fresh and fit when they uplift a white voice that is in close proximity to them to give a quote unquote nuanced take because they themselves are not black but then speak about that same behavior and a negative light it's crazy

[@arseania]

Lol she has to have Destiny be her validation point. This was too rich, Aba trolling was on point and his counter points were amazing. I love these streams.

[@julianbroughton]

The problem that Anna is having is that she doesn't see the good that's happening in the community and culture as a whole because she isn't looking for it. Earn Your Leisure YT channel or Social Proof with David Chance and Donnie are examples of decent sized channels consistently putting content of Black people making a difference in the community. She is just blind to the change that's happening.

[@lidiagizaw3828]

lol look at the stats she mentions it aint about the minority that are doing good it's about the majority who are deserting their kids

[@julianbroughton]

@@lidiagizaw3828 Aba already talked about holding the individual responsible vs black men as a whole responsible is different. Changing the culture as a whole takes time and happens slowly bc you're changing institutional structures. Single parent families is a multifaceted issue. Not something that you change one thing then suddenly the problem is solved.

[@baptistekande6000]

@@lidiagizaw3828 Why have kids with a dead beat then??? Women always play victim with this nonsense. If this guy was dismissive to you as a boyfriend, then why they hell would you let him make you pregnant as a woman. Learn some damn accountability as women always whining on men, yet it's you women who pick & sleep with those bums smh

[@paradox_4094]

@@julianbroughton exactly that commenter is running through this section trolling. By their logic we can blame black women for just as much because it takes two ppl to make a kid and get married, but ppl like that will put all the responsibility on men while simultaneously claim all the achievements that black women make with full autonomy.

[@kenneyfreeman4990]

She is Canadian. She has no stake in the game and her entire world view about the black community is through statistics, social media and entertainment.

[@iffyy..]

Anna isn't even from America she just looks black

[@aquarius-woman5364]

Neither is Aba.

[@yoshi3294]

Damn i forgot that black people only exist in america

[@BobbyJ529]

where she from?

[@robpom5501]

@@BobbyJ529 Canada, though me being from there too.... I mean lets be real both are pretty close in a lot of areas and have tons of overlap

[@asara8065]

Honestly she doesn’t even look black. I thought she was Hispanic/Arab when I first saw her so I was initially confused about why she even cares.

[@branflakes496]

This chick did not come here for any sort of convo. She literally came here just to disagree for the sake of disagreement. You can tell she eager to just speak her next point rather than taking in opposing views then responding to it.

[@StoicBehavioR]

Correct.. I saw that in matter of minutes when Aba was articulating how women over value themselves in many ways in the dating market. She went silent a few times because her cognitive distancing started to trigger. Aba was clearly on point with that talking point, which is a redpill talking point in itself. Anna clearly has problem with any man that has a ounce of redpill in him. When reality is, very successful men who aren't consider redpill practice it because it come natural to them in selection process.

[@branflakes496]

@@StoicBehavioR Don't know if you saw the next stream. It's actually mind boggling, she does the same exact thing the entire time. Repeatedly dodges questions. Steven does push back on her more in the stream.

[@jasonbuckley4118]

Imo i think she was trying to find excuses and arguments to just involve destiny and get closer to him. no joke Aba was on point with this Groupie feeling from her.

[@twistedfox9445]

I remember last video where Destiny does a whole anecdote about middle eastern women facing the same problem but worse than western issues and instead of listening she waits till the end and then says "yeah I get that its only a west issue"

[@Takobella]

Exactly. It honestly was so frustrating to watch

[@bengz1195]

This lady makes Lav seem so bearable!

[@d.j.casanova960]

2:48:45 no “Steven” I say that she’s racist because I grew up in a racist environment. I grew up as an African American/Mexican/Native American person, who was raised by a single mother, my father was around until 3rd grade, and my father is full blooded Mexican, he got deported. But I grew up in a small town in NC where I experienced racism every single day, I watched my mother and family get treated poorly, because of our ethnicity, I was one of 4 non-white kids in the whole school. The other two were my older and younger sister, and the 4th was my cousin, you have no idea what it was like growing up having friends tell me they can’t talk to me anymore because I’m black, or having a girlfriend break up with me because her mom told her she’s not allowed to date a Mexican, being called racial slurs everyday, my 7th grade math teacher called me a ni**er one day, the principal said it’s always “you people” who cause problems, in high school my art teacher said the same thing, my economics teacher said I was a menace to society and that I didn’t deserve to be alive, that I should be dead, wanna know why, because she constantly segregated me and talked down to me and one day I stood up for myself. I graduated high school with a scholarship to Berkeley for astrophysics, because one of the 4 teachers in my life who seen my potential, stuck their neck out for me and I made sure to put everything I had into making sure I succeeded. But you know what’s even more fucked up, when one of the kids who didn’t get a scholarship found out I did, they had their dad, who was a state trooper, ruin my chances at getting to go to college, I was wrongfully charged with a slew of things, conspiracy, manufacturing with intent, resisting arrest, attempted murder of a police officer, I lost my chance to go to the college of my dreams, all because of racism. I still went to college, I still made something of myself. But what kills me, is that I see that same bias and racist tendencies in a lot of the things she said. Yes, she had some good points and compelling arguments, but you can’t sit here and tell me she didn’t portray herself as a racist. Nick Fuentes made some compelling arguments and stated facts backed by evidence, does that change the fact that he’s a racist scumbag, NO! So don’t sit there and attempt to patronize me on something you have no experience in, maybe once you watch Cynthia G it’ll open your eyes to the truth, *STEVEN*.

[@soccer12336]

It’s kind of funny how one of her starting points was that aba isn’t as smart as he thinks he is and 1. He doesn’t consider himself that smart and 2. She spent a ton of time trying to understand a basic concept and still couldn’t get it.

[@soccer12336]

Also how she speak conveys that she has no respect (just the basic level of respect you should have for everybody) for black men. Idk if she has some sort of resentment there or what. Also she doesn’t have that in-depth of an opinion/understanding on the black community. At least based on this

[@investorhirsi7321]

Congrats now you know how black woman act when talking about the black men they sleep with. Matter of fact I think her mask was not off at all yet

[@channelname5938]

Oh, I’m sure she understood. She’s just not interested in understanding it.

[@soccer12336]

@@investorhirsi7321 I mean let’s not talk down on all black women because that’s not necessarily true. She specifically came off as ignorant in this specific instance

[@zkart8038]

And yet he managed to command the entire conversation, and as loud as she was, she was forced to listen while he schooled her.

[@templar.]

is it just me or does she not directly answer aba when he asks for clarification on things she accuses him of but instead directs her attention to destiny and tries to change the subject causing aba to repeatedly ask for clarification

[@ayoo_wassup]

Yeah. And aba even asked him to clarify his point to jer and he refused "I'm just here man. A moderator. It's not my fight" Then she fails like a glibbering moron and then he spearheads a point that she was never even making in the first place" and starts a 2 on 1 that lasted a while. Refuses to speak up when I KNOW he agrees with aba. And vocalizes way too much support for her smallest points. As well as introducing new points and claiming she made them...

[@Joelyototw]

She’s projecting her own intentions

[@templar.]

@@ayoo_wassup ya im finishing up the video now. to me, it definitely seems like she has some sort of bias towards black men or a bias toward aba himself as she barely even talked to him and when she did, it was mostly to accuse him of something that she couldnt back up or to express her desire to hurt him. when aba would defend himself and counter her claims she’d pause and then go right back to destiny to initiate a new topic as i guess she didnt want to acknowledge that aba was right and she was wrong. maybe she felt intimidated by him or she has little to no respect for him. either way, it was a bit of a struggle to watch

[@mgm8075]

@@templar. white validation

[@Lhoyte1]

@@templar. that’s exactly why Once Steven left she had no option left but to end the call

[@mr.m9979]

This woman is absolutely DYING for white validation and she's using Destiny as a vector for it. She keeps asking him for confirmation on her supposed beliefs and praising him for how smart he is while ignoring and combating everything Aba says even if he's already made the same point Destiny has. This is sad.

[@joppekim]

How is that white validation? It seems like most people try to get Destinys validation regardless of their skin color? Clarification?

[@mr.m9979]

@@joppekim When you spend 3 hours bashing black men and disrespecting and discrediting an obviously well-educated and informed black man who's trying to have a civil conversation with you while, at the same time, praising the intelligence of her white zaddy and showing him the utmost respect and conceding to all of his points...it looks A LOT like white validation. I'm not saying it definitely is but it sure looks like it.

[@BowserStrange]

She’s barely blk…

[@joppekim]

@@mr.m9979 after hearing more of her i actually agree with you.

[@marcellusayana7389]

Bro within like the first 10 minutes too. Destiny could tell like a mf man

[@kamreeg]

She literally talks in circles why did she try to debate someone who speaks intentionally 😂 then grasping at straws it makes her appear unhinged

[@SKrillexDubstepFiend]

Idk how i feel having Aba, a man from canada be questioned about alot of issues within black culture in America. He lives a different experience to an extent imo and isnt among us. Being middle class and the son of two black (carrribean) immigrants and living in NYC alot of the issues i hear these people talk about seem to be far fetched. Like how connected are these when they talk about these subjest. Is this woman even cognisant of how racist she sounds?

[@jed52]

I'm a black man from the south side of Chicago. I've seen the types of black men that she speaks of, but for her to say that a majority fit in that category is absolutely disingenuous and an argument made in bad faith.

[@SKrillexDubstepFiend]

@@jed52 i can agree with that

[@Lhoyte1]

@@SKrillexDubstepFiend Funnily a lot of the people who enguage in these conversations would say the same thing about you since you parents are from the Caribbean. They call you tether and all types of other ish

[@Lhoyte1]

Also this woman is def does not realize how crazy she sounds, she thinks that destiny will come away with a positive outlook after reacting to Cynthia G. She is coo coo

[@relly793]

its funny how she automatically assumes good things from destiny and assumes bad things from all black people shes spoken to. programming? i think so. these are your democratic voters

[@lustrazor44]

She’s Canadian you numpty. Wanna talk about programming? You instantly assume anyone you don’t like is a democrat. Even people from other countries. Nice one smooth brain.

[@chiefsosaya7869]

@@Drizzly0 yeah when you're talking like that obviously tthe opposition is going to reproduce the energy

[@thek2despot426]

"Democratic voters?" Bruh, Destiny is a liberal.

[@Jericho725]

She’s Canadian…

[@relly793]

@@thek2despot426 that doesnt mean he wont vote democrat. liberals are(were) centrist

[@jasonromage3230]

Aba being a genius because by just trolling he’s able to get Anna to say the truth instead of tap dancing around her points and she can’t even see it.

[@Lhoyte1]

She said she does not know anybody as extreme as Sneako but thinks Cynthia G is a brilliant mind 😯

[@JmasterPullmizter]

Thank God Aba stated it based on individuals as ppl rather than the group racial bias Ann has been spouting in the last discussion. It’s scary to have someone like this comin into a discussion not acknowledging you as your own person. Men may talk about women in a negative light, but we always acknowledge the good qualities they have, or be more specific on the type of women that hurts other women.

[@abzm1478]

Destiny, you're running the anti-mysogynist arc in to the ground at this rate

[@ogjames9695]

“Inability to criticize black culture “ is the funniest statement I’ve every heard 🤣

[@haitiancreolewithluciano]

Destiny tried to trap ABA 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sward0483]

From the first moment she opened her mouth she 100% sounded biased and full of hate lol

[@infamyjones3986]

Aba got the best adlibs in the game lmao "yes queen" "good" "mmm"

[@rhashadcarter2051]

How does she not know that media has a big influence on how ppl see other ppl 😂. like what.

[@chillin5703]

54:00 the mere fact Anna said this is evidence of Aba's point. The idea that biracial people would identify not just outside of the African American community but outright as not black (plus, to add, that they _should_ do this) would've been sacrilege 40 50 years ago, even uncommon or weird in the 90s and 00s. The tide in that opinion has clearly moved and idk where it'll end, but the "black community" in America has undeniably gone through change and is continuing to. The mere fact that now we're having to clarify 'african American' means descendants of American slaves and not actual African immigrants shows the point aswell.

[@AndrewNajash]

Doing Aba dirty with these thumbnails

[@lustrazor44]

Dirty? That’s his “I want ya” face. He got what he wanted. Blood

[@ryohio4706]

I thought it was funny that they keep putting him making that creepo face in the thumbnails, lol

[@Rohtix]

I will say, I think the other minorities that immigrated over, like Italians or Irish, had an easier time blending in and avoiding the racial stigma because they're white passing. Also, those who immigrated often changed their last names, especially through Ellis island, be it by choice or otherwise. My grandpa is Hungarian and had his last names spelling changes through Ellis. I would've never known either. Plenty of people hid or changed their identity. It's not as easy for a black dude to do that, because y'know, he's black!

[@kb990]

If we’re honest most situations in the black community are chronically exacerbated by gossip, social media, supposed societal norms and in large part IMMATURITY. You can’t make people seek better if they genuinely don’t know better and haven’t learned how to identify it. It’s absolutely circumstantial but we can’t keep acting as if coddling people who ignore signs is conducive to moving forward.

[@kage6271]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LES GOOO WAAABAAA!!! i was waiting for this to drop

[@The3Kings]

I thought The Saint and The Sinner sent this chick to the gulag years ago. She still alive?

[@thematic3893]

She clearly has escaped or Saint and Sinners let her out…

[@jarad9946]

The fact she only got this conversation because she is a woman speaks volumes to the issues at hand. Some random man DMing Abba about "smoke" would not get a response let alone a conversation

[@BodieMoto]

Destiny thinking this girl is genuinely smart is a character flaw lol

[@megadeuce2350]

This is a sicknesss!

[@Gchildwarrior]

She is deviant behavior. And therefore, we don't want her

[@3self]

Ahh I can hear this !

[@leonabug619]

It is deviant, therefore, we do not want it!

[@domenicduartesr.672]

Thinking you're a 10 and saying outloud you're a 10, you are overvaluing yourself. Objectively speaking women overwhelming do that.

[@neronihil1710]

There is no body-positivity for men... case closed. Just another way to proof your point. So yeah I agree

[@Илия́Фримен]

Right. When men overvalue themselves, we get kneecapped so quickly and so brutally. You can’t pretend your the pretty boy on the playground when your not: boys and girls will let you know that immediately, and where you stand. But a girl could say she thinks the prettiest and all her friends and other kids she’s not associated will lap that shit up if not really challenge it. It gets worse in adulthood, in my experience, because now there’s the added pressure of “keeping the peace”

[@jonbelbawlout]

One very small thing that pissed me off is when she said biracial people don’t have to pick between the black and white community cause they have there own community. (I’m half black half white)No the fuck i don’t have a biracial community. I don’t have biracial parents, I have 2 biracial family members and one is my sister, I have one biracial friend, what the fuck community is she talking about? Where is my community? Is there even such thing as a “biracial family”? How many family are there where both the mom and the dad are half black half white? I’m lost

[@chillin5703]

What she means is some first gen stuff, form your own separate from 'black' people because you're not really own of us, but it's stupid regardless. Telling biracials how they should identify and who they should associate is is weird. Doubly weird because half the people who say this type of stuff would be part of the biracial community and not the 'black' one if they applied their logic to their own family lineage...

[@commieloli5182]

Latin Americans are all mostly biracial but I don’t think the same culture exist for black people

[@kenneyfreeman4990]

America still follows the one drop rule. White people do not consider bi-racial children as white. They are deemed black automatically. Any black child who grew up around white family members will tell you so.

[@mustyrious]

She needs to be boondocks character

[@Mojojojo.ex3]

"Don't judge a book by its cover" The book- "Mein Kaumpf"

[@davidreed5045]

Never thought I’d see the day where I value Lav’s logic 😂

[@davidreed5045]

@@leontate8805 sheesh 😂

[@damarihanson3876]

@@leontate8805 I don’t watch the streams. Is this canon? Please tell me this is canon??

[@Mrballerize]

@1:45:10 Imagine calling someone as unhinged as Cynthia G a brilliant mind. Smh 🤦‍♂️

[@kgm4556]

These two are Canadians.

[@marcelocoronel166]

The first minute of this video sent to the next dimension I was not ready

[@alecelosramboilyaasmayfiel395]

I think it’s clear Anna has a crush on destiny the way she will change anything that might be bad or against her views of him she rewords it to make it sound better for her of how she sees him

[@sward0483]

Destiny simping hard! You know saying you got smoke for someone esp a stranger is super aggressive shit lol. Stop trying to downplay that shit homie!

[@KAIZENTECHNOLOGIES]

*Why is every Ana crazy asf*

[@nathanielceballos4918]

I used to date a Anna and this is fax

[@Mikexmerchant]

Destiny. I NEEEEED a fanatiq and Analicia debate in my life.

[@BlGDaddyRob]

Aba has reversed the gravitational pull, Destiny is the orbiter now.

[@zkart8038]

Destiny has always been the one in Aba's circle. Aba and Preach are much bigger and better and funnier than he will ever be.

[@cjstats1514]

Destiny acts like drugs weren't all over Rock music forever. Like just rap talks about that.

[@1kScope]

Saint was right, she is crazy

[@richardeknormis7688]

I think the Kevin Samuels stat is… 51% of black men are single and childless and of that 51%, 64% are in the middle class…. So black men are doing well. They might not have the same educational accolades as black woman, but they also make more than black woman on average and have much less debt. I think this woman’s issue is the men SHE DEALS WITH and pays attention to are the ones she is complaining about. If black woman could stop assuming they deserve the cream of the crop black men, then they would get with normal black men who are good people and be happy with that…. But instead they seem to think they are above the average black man

[@MrsTinaMW]

Destiny is right Black Christian parents would never let you listen to rap music in the house or even hang out with black kids in the community that listen to it.

[@unkowng5703]

No surprise she’s a single mom tbh

[@EdertheJust]

She has a kid?!? Yikes

[@notalizardperson4899]

Destiny has some huge historical blind spots

[@fanaticbox]

Facts he seriously discounts Italians and Irish being able to assimilate into white culture for them being able to get government assistance.

[@oldevile9737]

He doesn't care all this is funny and a joke to him

[@rekpekurede]

​@@oldevile9737 BINGO!

[@runwords_]

It’s unlucky that she somehow inherited both negative stereotypes of the angry black woman and Karen

[@BillyBiceps]

The fact she says important the same way Lauren Southern does was pretty hard to deal with, but I do wish someone asked her to say Obamna

[@Totsugaru]

If she had so much smoke for Aba, she wouldn't have to look for it.

[@2sauced224]

Steven was able to find the black female uncle ruckus.